Hard to be too dramatic after another lose, but, THIS IS REALLY BAD.
Freddie Ljungberg is dealing with the impossible caretaker role. The club allowed Unai Emery to hire in 9 of his mates, now they’ve all been chopped, Freddie is having to fix a broken squad with Per Mertesacker who is working two jobs at the same time. He has no experience to call on, he’s lacking resource, and he’s trying to fix a squad that doesn’t seem to care about the basics.
He is not going to be the future manager of Arsenal football club, so the exec leadership team needs to make a decision on the future of the vacancy this week.
I think they will, and I’d be very surprised if the name they pick can only join at the end of the season.
The three end of the season managers would be Brendan, Thomas Tuchel and Pochettino.
The now managers are Arteta, Vieira, Nuno and sadly, Martinez.
The decision should be an easy one, but my word, don’t write off Raul steaming in last minute to ensure another 2 years of Arsenal hell with a curveball mates rates type of paint job.
Arsenal look a disgusting shambles on the pitch, but it’s fixable. This is football, it’s not that complicated. We have more than enough good players in our squad to correct the season. Sheffield United are firing and its December. Leicester are at the top of the table. Wolves are robust with a small squad. We need organisation, a sexy vision, and a coach that can deliver his message clearly with a lot of energy.
Then we can push through to the summer and make the more drastic changes that we need to really reboot Arsenal.
The Manchester City game is hardly worth talking about. Bernd Leno proved his worth with some exceptional saves once again, he really is looking like a £100m keeper at the moment. Martinelli played really well, he’s the only player in our front four will to put a shift in for the midfield. Saka and ESR also showed some flashed when they came on.
Ultimately though, there was no shape, no strategy on how to press, and no commitment to play like a team. The football we play is a little bit better than it was under Unai Emery, but there’s still no confidence in the system.
City breezed past our midfield with ease. They all knew exactly what they were supposed to be doing on the pitch. They destroyed us with devastating precision. KDB looked like the best player in the world, but really, could he take any value in that statement when he was playing against a bunch of boys?
I don’t want to pick on Ozil, because there are lots of poor players in our squad, but no one stinks out our starting 11 quite like him in a big game. He was subbed off early and he strolled off the pitch, then threw his gloves on the ground. What a little bitch. I think I speak for most of the fans, I’ll be overjoyed to see the back of him this summer, he’s the worst £18m a season any club in the world spends. That World Cup really did destroy any ambition he had to be a footballer.
We are lost as a club. 10 years of neglect have taken their toll. We haven’t had a stable manager since 2008… but things can change very quickly.
Problem for Arsenal is we’re like a neglected trophy wife. Plenty of cash has been pumped in, but the husband hasn’t been paying attention to where it’s being spent.
The Kroenke’s have sunk net $330m in the squad over the last 5 years. That’s more than double Liverpool ($123m), Leicester ($163m), Spurs ($120m) and Chelsea ($140m) have spent. We have let drunk partners fritter away bucket loads of cash as we’ve watched on in hopeful fashion that there’s some sort of thought behind the outlay. There hasn’t been.
I think a good place to start is with a great coach with exciting ideas.
Here’s the thing, I don’t think Edu knows what he wants for Arsenal, which means the coach he hires is doubly important because they will be the vision. Let’s hope it’s someone exciting.
Then the hardwork starts, we have 7 months to get ready for next season. Everybody needs to work around the new coach. He needs the best staff, the most advanced analysts, and an operational structure built to get the best out of him and the players.
… most importantly, the summer transfer plan needs to be perfect. It’s going to be busy, but we can’t afford mistakes, we need to make sure the players lining up next season are fit to wear the shirt.
So let’s get this hire right, no fucking around with the bottom feeders.
We have to hope we’re at ground zero with Arsenal, we’ll only know that when we hire in a new coach. Make a bad decision, the next ground zero will sadly be one where the current leadership is swept out in another revolution. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that, fingers crossed Raul and Edu do the right thing this week.
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Tbf, I’ve thought for a good couple of years now that KdB, when fully fit, is the best midfielder in the world. Such a complete player. Even when he single-handedly (or perhaps I should say double-footedly?) destroys us, I can’t help but love the guy. Beast.
“Here’s the thing, I don’t think Edu knows what he wants for Arsenal,“
Then why hire him in the first place? Its more than obvious that Arsenal are in serious trouble and i cant explain exactly why, but it may not matter who they bring in to manage because the toxicity is so pervasive, that nothing can change it until you gut the whole thing. How low can Arsenal go? We will soon find out.
KDB is in good form, but Arsenal made it too easy for City as a whole.
You point out a lot of critical things Pedro, but the obvious is upon everyone – do we even have the right people in place to make such important decisions? Without hesitation, No!
The only hope Arsenal have is if we get rid of the Kroenkes. I hope the supporters are able to punish them financially for their shoddy and disgraceful handling of Arsenal FC which has left Arsenal on a cliff edge.
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Ozil is doing his best to punish them financially. Taking home £350,000 PER WEEK and Muslims in China tweet. He’s bringing the Krankies down from the inside.
I’m going to disagree. I’m not sure this current incarnation of the squad can be fixed without some major player losses. The senior players are rubbing off against the younger ones…you can see it. Lazy, self serving and could not be bothered playing a game most people would crawl over broken glass to do for free. I have a really bad feeling we will hire Carlo. Big mistake. If we go Martinez or Nuno…third the lights out. PV is a legend but not right for Arsenal now. I think it’s clear Edu was a mistake. He’s a salary man now… Read more »
I personally do not believe that we should go for the ‘quick fix’ just to have someone in the manager’s chair. We need to look long term and for the best options. As I have said before, if you just go for who is available now (ie the recently sacked or those not required by any other team) then you are asking for trouble. The club is at a tipping point. Panic buys/decisions have not done us any favours in recent years – in all honesty when was the last time you actually enjoyed watching an Arsenal match?
The senior players are rubbing off against the younger ones…you can see it.
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GoH,
I had no idea that kind of thing was going on. Should be locked up or strung up. Nonces!
LT
As soon as I posted it I knew I’d made a double entendre…cue slide whistle.
My worry is that there is no vision. When your remit is just to make top 4, it’s very hard to actually translate this into a footballing vision. I really hope that the wait is due to the suits carefully choosing who’ll be our next manager. That they have a plan for once. And that its not just about finding someone who will be happy to just tag along (like UE did). Whoever is chosen will clearly highlight the suits plan for the club. But will we go for a manager with a vision (and sauce) or a meh manager… Read more »
GOH, Even a mediocre Everton squad is responding to a caretaker manager and playing with some purpose, but what does Arsenal do? Tools down yet again, the toxic bunch.
Is Allegri a disciplinarian? Can’t make my mind up about him. Excellent record but he had tonnes of Euros at his disposal.
Left
Very funny! And I thought they were just a bunch of onanists!
GoH
As double entendres go – that was a big one!
ER
There’s no fight because the culture doesn’t demand it.
We have players who have zero professional pride. That sucks.
LT
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Yep, closer to relegation than fourth.
Arsenal are so hot right now.
Aussie, last match i truly enjoyed watching? 5-2 smackdown of the Spuds – the look on Good Old Arry’s face as they gave up 5 consecutive goals was priceless. Sure there have been other enjoyments ( watching that mug John Terry fall over himself and RVP scoring on it was nice too), but that one was super nice.
We need to campaign against the owners, they have to go.
They have no real love for our club it’s just a piece of property.
We need an owner who goes to games and weekly pressurized the manager to obtain real success.
The whole management is rotten , any sane manager will not breakthrough this shite set up.
The players have no heart for the club just a bunch of mercenaries going through their rotten routine each week.
Wenger started this but who is going to stop it?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7796731/Arsenal-chief-Vinai-Venkatesham-leaves-Mikel-Artetas-Manchester-mansion-1-20am.html
Looks like it’s Arteta – and soon if the negotiations went well last night.
Pedro, the day Arsenal was destroyed as football club was when Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith and company and the Hill-Wood family sold the club to Stan Kroenke. The man has no desire to invest in the club and attract sponsorship. If you look at our rivals like Man City, Liverpool, Man United and Chelsea, you can gulf between Arsenal and the rest in terms of investment in players!
At this rate I have to look to the history channel for football.
Now I know what my Liverpool mates feel like all these years.
WOAB
Thats that then. Pedro will be pleased.
Pedro `We haven’t had a stable manager since 2008` Right now, most arsenal fans would love to be where we were in 2008. In fact they’d take 2009,10, 11,12,13 right up until Wenger’s last season. Before I get annihilated for saying that on here, that doesn’t mean I think we were wrong to get rid of him–far from it- but let’s be honest, the: ‘Bame it all on wenger-all we need to do us get rid of him and we’ll start winning Premierships and champions leagues’ argument you were peddling looks naive and oversimplistic. A club’sownership is important Pedro. Leadership,… Read more »
Vinai was there getting some tips on how to be a stud. Arteta runs a stud school. Nothing to see here.
Can you see what I’m talking about? We need change at the very top to close the gap between us and our rivals. Why should Arsenal loyal fans be made to go through this pain season in season out?
Pedro,
One thing about Arteta is that, as an Assistant Manager, he will not have recourse to a team of assistants himself.
City/Pep will obviously not allow him to poach from the City team, and Arsenal are
clearly short of support staff.
I’m not sure how quickly this probe will be resolved, but having seen the glacial pace at which Raul and co are moving at, I’m not optimistic.
With each passing second/hour/day/week, Arsenal FC plunges further into the abyss. Whether it’s been Wenger, Emery or Freddie, it makes no difference, we are well and truly fcuked. Our players are devoid of belief and confidence. Some, like Ozil, clearly don’t give a damn. Our hierarchy are clueless and incapable of making the right decisions, whilst our fans continue to sit and accept the inevitable. How can we expect the team to scrap when they aren’t interested? What a frigging dilemma. How the fudge do we get ourselves out of this mess? What can we do as fans to bring… Read more »
*how quickly this problem will be resolved
Alex
Yup I agree.
Moving Wenger on was necessary for change.
Unfortunately the owners assumed, along with plenty of fans, that the solution is a relatively simple affair.
Turns out it isn’t.
A better owner would have taken the situation by the horns and wrestled with it.
– in all honesty when was the last time you actually enjoyed watching an Arsenal match?”
Not since Wenger’s last season
I’ll give Arteta a chance (nice of me, I know 🙂 ). First team selection will be telling. Are we in for more Xhaka and Ozil?
Big Dunc is a better interim coach than baldy Freddie
Victorious.
He’s gone, get over it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7796731/Arsenal-chief-Vinai-Venkatesham-leaves-Mikel-Artetas-Manchester-mansion-1-20am.html
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He might just be our January midfield signing.
If Arteta said ship out Ozil, Mustafi and Xhaka in Jan before he arrives, then he means business.
Big Sam wants the job.
Sam Allardyce has told talkSPORT he would fix Arsenal’s defensive woes ‘tomorrow’ if he was appointed as the Gunners’ new manager.
https://talksport.com/football/643572/arsenal-sam-allardyce-crisis-ljungberg/
Pedro Yes we need a great Head Coach [Team Leader], but we need also a quality coaching team as well. Have no issue in keeping Freddy Ljungberg who works apparently quite well with youngsters, but he is not a man manager or strategist on evidence of what we have seen. The current problems with playing personnel also need to be addressed. The “mature” players on our books are not delivering either leadership, experience or performance on the pitch. None of the young players should be starting games such as against Man City. They are in reality squad players who should… Read more »
I have always hated Fat Sam since the days of Bolton pulverizing us on regular basis then but he is absolutely on point about the tactics. Like CG says keep it simple !
Lets just get behind our young guns for the remainder of this season. Bar Leno i struggle to see too many senior players trying to get us out of this mess. Sing songs like “We’re only he to see the youngsters” or something like that to show the Martinelli’s, Saka’s and Smith Rowe’s etc that we’re supporting them through this car crash of a season. The young guns will be a major part of our future. The Ozil’s, Kola’s Xhaka’s Soks and Luiz’s etc’s are already yesterday’s men and their performances show it. We have a promising bunch of young… Read more »
So its Arteta’s job if those pics of Vinai are true.
You don’t meet with just a candidate at those times, you meet with the future gaffer.
My only worry with Arteta is can he impose himself on senior players like Ozil, Xhaka and the shitty CB’s and get performances or get rid.
Yesterday the entire stadium had a weird resignation to it. Painful to be a part of in all honesty.
It looks like the club”s heirarchy have settled on Mikel Arteta
The arguments are over. It’s time to unite and support him He will need at least 1.5 seasons to settle down – the same courtesy we gave Emery
Let’s get behind Arteta. I expect that he will be appointed today.
Arteta isn’t daft
He would have asked for a clear out of all the dross. He’s better off with talented kids than the likes of Ozil and Xhaka.
Arteta would be stupid to have Freddie around him.
He needs a clean break. He needs his own team,and shouldn’t have Mertesacker or Freddie anywhere near the team.
Dissenter – We need to purge the first team. Anyone that’s not on board the new coaching team and Arteta need to be shipped out come January.
We as fans will also need to be patient with him. First managerial role at a failing badly run club with high expectations. Its a big task.
Found this from 2018…
https://turkish-football.com/mesut-ozil-to-demand-talks-with-club-if-mikel-arteta-is-appointed-as-arsenal-manager/
In regards to young players and coaching and given or reported lack of funds, out of the realistic managerial options available this winter, the thought of Mikel Arteta is starting to keep me warm at night.
Pedro’s MK ULTRA regime was too hard to resist over the long term.
I’m now a believer…
Have to admire Arteta’s courage if he were to take up this mammoth task. But i still think Arteta will turn us down because the damage to his career would be telling if it were not to work out. And i don’t think he would be taking such a massive risk.
It’s equally a massive gamble from Arsenal if we were to opt for Arteta. Fail this time and it is going to be a drift into wilderness like the one Liverpool have experienced before the arrival of Rodgers and Klopp.
I spent too long going against Pedro and Gambon regarding Wenger and Emery and ended up with egg on my face.
Should just give their way a try and see how it goes. It really can’t get any worse.
Arteta won’t have a back room staff of his own , if that’s the case nothing will change if the likes of Merts Freddie and Bould are still coaching.
They all have to go if any change happens.
;The team structure is a mess so strong personalities are needed.
Don’t see Raul and co doing the right thing.
The question is, how have they let things get this bad? This team is in clear danger of being sucked into a relegation battle, and it is a team not up for a battle
Arteta will do well to change things at any speed at all, the squad needs a rebuild on little money
Raul should be kept away from hiring the new man
Does Arteta even have a backroom team ready?
Emirates ‘ `We haven’t had a stable manager since 2008`Right now, most arsenal fans would love to be where we were in 2008. In fact they’d take 2009,10, 11,12,13 right up until Wenger’s last season’ The league has changed a lot since then. The percolation of big money down the league has made it ultra- competitive so repeated mistakes aren’t more costly. Wenger benefitted from the league nit being as competitive. I wish we stopped talking bout Wenger because the cumulative of his dithering and transfer errors is PART OF the problems we have right now. Not signing available players,… Read more »
The players are broken, especially the defenders, and our midfield also.
I seriously can’t see what a new manager could do with this team.
From all indications, the job is Arteta’s and the club are the ones courting him.
He will be smart to demand iron clad assurances, even have them carved into his contract.
You don’t show up at late hours of the night on Sunday to a prospective applicant. It’s to reassure him to sign a contract or to possibly sign the contract.
“Arsenal look a disgusting shambles on the pitch, but it’s fixable.”
” it’s fixable”… Really ?? Not so sure about that…
Highbury
I hope Arteta gets the new manager bounce Emery got to lift us away from the relegation muck . The summer is where the fixes have to come in.
Mesut Ozil is a disgrace to Arsenal and football as a whole. He should be publicly condemned and humiliated by being forced to train with the woman’s team.
The champion’s league draw is about to happen. A silent reminder to the Arsenal faithful of how far we have fallen behind. Not even a single mention of UCL.
Mesut Ozil is a disgrace to Arsenal and football as a whole. He should be publicly condemned and humiliated by being forced to train with the womens’ team.
There are very few players in the squad that I’m sorry to lose. Hopefully the ‘big ‘ players in the team are chomping at the bits to leave because we didn’t qualify for Europe- Auba, Xhaka, Laca etc. That still leaves us with Ozil who will have one year of retirement left at Arsenal come May 2020. Leno can eff off to Bayern, I don’t care. So long as they pay double what we bought him for. There are talented keepers everywhere. So long as we keep the talented youngsters like Martinelli, I’m fine. It’s going to be a long… Read more »
You know when Pierre isn’t even on here defending him that it’s gotten really bad.
TBone
‘ Mesut Ozil is a disgrace to Arsenal and football as a whole. He should be publicly condemned and humiliated by being forced to train with the womens’ team’
That’s sexism on display.
You’re equating the women’s team with weakness. Why smear them with Ozil’s peanut-sized cojones?
I don’t see the point in trying to say that Arsenal have a good squad by quoting teams like Sheffield United and Leicester. It’s Sheffield United can do it so Arsenal can as well. No. Sheffield United have a certain coach and enough players in their team that are about graft. What they do off the ball is just as important to them as what they do on the ball. Leicester are better off the ball than Arsenal as well. This is why they have one of the best defensive records in the league. It’s no good quoting a Sheffield… Read more »
Arsenal are horrendous off the ball and have been for over a decade.
Which prospective coach would have the bollocks to say that to his potential Arsenal employers.
@Dissenter
Women are less physically strong than men. Hence, they are weaker than men. Ozil is weak. He will be right at home.
TBone,
Arsenal Women are currently top of the league, playing attractive and efficient football.
Why inflict Özil on them? Totally unfair!
Arteta it is then.
Just want Pedro to hold him to the same standards as Emery.
He gets time and he needs to be allowed to sign players, but I don’t want any excuses made for him that were not there for Emery.
You’ve said the squad is good enough, let’s see this ‘City IP’ then.
“Why inflict Özil on them? Totally unfair!”
Ah ah ah, so true!!
I’m not suggesting he play with them. Just train with them!
Champions League draw is now on.
“Just want Pedro to hold him to the same standards as Emery.”
You will be binned.
TBone
Strength is not all about bone size and muscle mass. There’s emotional strength as well.
The gender that carries the weight of pregnancy and labor isn’t weaker. Our women’s team is an excellent one and isn’t the place to drop a pathetic weasel like Ozil.
I wouldn’t even let him train with the youth team because he will infect them with his attitude.
People are jumping the gun imo. This is Arsenal we are talking about. Unless Arteta is announced on Arsenal.com, it is foolish to trust the people in charge !
Arteta better be good at making players appreciative of both on and off the ball aspects and not just one.
And we know there are players that are shit off the ball in this team regardless of coach so he will need to show a ruthless streak in binning these players.
If not and he just wants to mimick Arsene Wenger in his second period then he will be an absolute waste of time because he would not be addressing weaknesses that have been haunting Arsenal for well over a decade.
@Dissenter
Women are PHYSICALLY weaker than men. This is not an opinion, it is a biological fact.
Dortmund vs Paris Saint-Germain
Arteta will be held to the same standards as any manager we would hire, however, Arteta should get some what of a pass because he’s Arteta.
Arteta for Arsenal. Saviour.
Real Madrid vs Manchester City
Cesc Appeal The difference now is that Arteta is in the driving seat. I hope he’s smart enough to extract what he needs from the club before he signs his contract. The club will have to back him when he decides to send the likes of Ozil to Siberia. They didn’t back Emery all the way, even though he complicated things with his Xhaka love in. The club has to get some functional midfielders this winter, on loan or otherwise. The club needs to clear out half the squad. Arteta needs to be careful . This job may ruin his… Read more »
TBone/Dissenter,
Let’s just agree that Özil has the muscle mass and bone density of a woman and the emotional intelligence of a man!
Atlético vs Liverpool
Chelsea vs Bayern München
Are the reports about potential managers being put off by the absence of assurances regarding transfer budgets true? They are consistent with the way the club has been run in recent times. Would Arteta be another “I’ll make the current players better” manager? If so, we could be heading for disaster as most of our squad are uncoachably shite.
Arteta who?
TBone
You think strength is all about physical stature?
Did you even read my comment? You really think you’re stronger than everyone you’re bigger than?
Have a great week my friend. Let’s send Ozil to train with the ladies team. Finito.
Tottenham Hotspur vs Leipzig
Jose always has the luck of the draw!!!
Jammy spurs as always
If Arteta’s willing to work on the notion of “I’ll make the current players better” and doesn’t push for sweeping changes then
ARTETA OUT.
But somehow i doubt it
If Vinai, Raul and Edu actually believe Arteta is the man, putting their jobs on the line for him, then let’s do it. A huge huge risk but maybe we get a Klopp or a Pep out of him.
However, I think Arteta is not going to be appointed, I think Arteta is being cleverly used as a pressure on the man we really want.
There is no way you can convince me that hiring a blatant rookie to oversee a big club in monumental chaos is clever. No way!
But whatever ……just get it done and let’s see.
If Arteta relaxing face is anything to go by. He looks like a mean MF which I want to see.
I see Liverpool getting to another CL final.
“maybe we get a Klopp or a Pep out of him. ”
Ah ah, funny one.