Arsenal shortlist down to two names, take the moonshot

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I book hotels based on the what the lobby looks like, if it looks fancy, I’m in. I found a lobby I liked in Atlanta, the furnishing looked cool, the art looked interesting, pretty pictures of fine-looking southern cocktails… found out as I approached that I was booked above a famous strip club.

I made a bad choice. I’m currently sat in a trashy bar trying to come to terms with the fact I am sharing a building with the sort of people that travel between states for a fave stripper they ‘connect’ with. My room is on the same floor as the kitchen that sells chicken wings. The scene is not what I expected and I’m at the age where this has rocked my world.

I’m not crying about the noise. You are.

Still, we live with the consequences and move on. At least I have a voucher for a cup of tea in the morning.

Arsenal managerial news is still fairly murky, fans are struggling with French newspapers running hit pieces about names that are trying to land a foot in the door with an Everton exec team that seems as clueless as Arsenal’s. The latest name is Paulo Sousa, who is at Bourdeaux. I think it’s a fiction. Well, I hope it is. If you are Portuguese and have kicked a ball in the last 50 years, chances are you know someone that can land you an interview with Raul.

The latest I’m hearing is the same as David Ornstein (convenient) – that the club is pursuing Patrick Vieira and Mikael Arteta. The noises from the shop floor are that most favour Mikael over Paddy, but as far as I’m concerned that doesn’t hold much weight if Edu is a bros before non-bros kind of guy.

Either way, it’s looking very likely that Arsenal will end the month with an ex-trophy winning captain of Arsenal in the dugout. At the very least, that means the club will be treated with sort of tender soft touch we deserve because that touch will come with love. That’s a good start when you consider Nuno was in the running two weeks ago, that’s the touch of an insurance broker pervert on the C2C when you’re asleep.

Patrick Vieira hasn’t really been on the Le Grove radar for obvious reasons… he’s simply not done a good enough job for me to care.

I love him. Truly one of the greatest names to have pulled on an Arsenal shirt. He’d have my backing simply because of who he is. My worry? He’d be the closest hire we could make to Frank Lampard in terms of comparables.

Vieira matches up when it comes to legend status very closely with Lampard. Both managers had similarly average stints before the took a bigger job. Frank took Derby from 6th to 6th. Paddy hasn’t really moved the needle for Nice this season, they’re sitting in 13th, they’ve had a very choppy time of it, he’s only managed 3 wins in the last 11 games (after spending £52m on new players, net £29m). He moved them from 8th, to 7th . Good, but not glittering in a league where Lille moved from 17th to 2nd in the same period (and Mourinho just pinched their backroom team).

My other concern is this: City sent him to America and didn’t put up much of a fight to keep him in the group when he wanted a new challenge. Rumours were rife when he was coaching in England that the sheikhs were eyeing him as a successor to Pep. What happened? (Arteta)

Edu will have to tread a careful line here as well. Anyone in business who has hired in a friend will tell you what a fucking nightmare it can be. You always end up disappointed, they’re either shite and they fuck your rep, or they’re incredible and they push you out of the McDonald’s kitchen onto the tills, which is actually really boring, so that’s why me and Darren stopped talking.

Doesn’t matter if you’re in finance or brick-laying, everyone has a story. It is very difficult to hire a BBF into a job as cutthroat as football because things go wrong so fast. It can also have the negative impact of setting the wrong tone for the culture of the club, every decision can end up looking tainted, because really, hiring in someone because you like them isn’t 21st-century savvy (Ray Dalio has a section in his excellent book, Principles, where he straight up calls it morally corrupt). Worse than that for Edu, if there is deep support of Arteta, it’s an easier pill for everyone to swallow if things go wrong because the failure is shared. If the Brazilian Technical Director goes out on a limb for a manager with an average record and it goes badly, that’s ‘lose your job’ territory.

If I’m given the choice of a bland record I can sift through or rolling the dice for ‘Arteta the unknown’… then I’ll roll that fucking dice. We just hired in someone that won it all in France and it was toxic. I’m not sure what Patrick is offering to the Arsenal party outside a reputation, I can’t even figure it out in theory. The football isn’t special, he’s not growing out world-class players, and he’s not making the Nice team better than the sum of their parts like Favre did when he took Nice to the Champions League.

If Arteta is still in the mix after three years, that tells you something. He must be maintaining his rep in the game because the club aren’t excited about him simply because he has really nice hair and a fan blog dedicated to his potential. Huss & co are obviously getting good intel to back up the hype that follows him about in management books, player interviews, and Pep love-ins.

Here’s the thing: I don’t think the decision is that crazy, even if it was, who cares, we need a moonshot to kick-start this 2.0 project. Safe is not a strategy that correlates with our situation. Safe is literally 14 years of Arsene Wenger and 18 months of Emery. Safe is code for meek, stagnant, unoriginal. It just pushes you further away from taking the drastic steps needed to make Arsenal competitive and relevant on a meagre budget.

If Pep Guardiola says Arteta is an excellent analyst that always comes with innovative solutions, that tells you that he’s looking at problems, formulating plans, then executing them with success on the training ground… for a club that won back to back Premier League titles with record-breaking points.

If the press reports are true and he holds most of those training sessions, that tells you that his ideas are good. It also doubles down on the notion that he’s an elite communicator.

Arsenal needs a coach, I think he can be that coach.

Sure, there are parts that he’s going to have to learn. Being the go-to for managing a squad of egos is going to be tough. He’ll be the lonely one in the dugout, but look, he’s not some nutter tactician that hasn’t managed groups of players before, he’s been a captain at two top-level football clubs. Commanding the respect of fellow professional isn’t going to be a steep learning curve.

I also think the club should be able to build experience around him, just like Barcelona did when Pep took over at Camp Nou when he was exactly the same age.

The most valuable thing Arsenal can spend their money on is great ideas because we can’t afford to unload another £200m on players this summer. We have a great group of kids coming through, we will waste their talent if we give them to Carlo (I don’t think we’d go here, but in a fit of panic, he is basically Emery of 2019 after being freshly fired into a narrowed shortlist). We’ll need to reshape the squad in the summer, likely with young kids. They aren’t coming here for an average coach and boring football. We need something to offer them. With the names on offer at the moment, I don’t see anyone in the pack of managers that has a higher ceiling than Arteta.

Take the chance, the season is lost, there is so much to gain in an environment of incredibly low expectations.

Roll the dice, let’s bet on future football.

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DM

PieAFC

Where exactly did anyone state that caring about Palestinians makes you antisemitic? Oh that’s right, we didn’t.

Edu me a favour

Pierre

Be honest now – genuine question – and FYI I’m really not into getting into arguments, And name calling etc ( but I had to respond to your last post but I think we should leave the abuse there ) but I do like healthy debates

Do you think Mesut Ozil would get into any other team in the prem ?

guest man aka WW

this isn’t political…..there is a world of difference between the doctrine of Zionism and just abusing jewish people.
DO NOT READ ANY OF MY SENTIMENTS IN THAT STATEMENT.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
to clarify you can hate the managers of a company without hating the workforce.

DM

Jamie

I hear what you’re saying, I just think it makes sense to hire the best manager available at the time. Right now I’d say Ancellotti is a better manager than Arteta. Doesn’t mean I’ll think it’s terrible if we go for Arteta – it could work out great, or could be rubbish – but I just don’t get all the dismissing of Ancellotti.

Un na naai

Guest man
Maybe you want to point your turret at the ideology responsible for the murder of innocent British citizens, not the ones who mix in peacefully.

DM

guest man aka WW

Can I ask, what exactly do you think Zionism is?

guest man aka WW

Martinelli is a great potential talent. We need to really put him in cotton wool and develop him. I’m so impressed with him.

Ishola70

Corbyn wanted to take to tea and supported cleric Raed who purported the blood libel = accusing Jews of using the blood of Christian children in their Passover Matzot .

guest man aka WW

like i said quite clearly…do not read into it,,,.and guess what??? some fckin goon has done exactly that.
No politics just facts….indisputable logic.

Edu me a favour

“If you read my comment it was all to do with being in possession of the ball.”

Again – I read your comment

and I didn’t see it that way – come on now – you’ve got previous with martinelli the “ head down merchant”

I should have put an ‘etc’ after I said ‘ his pressing’

I’ve watched him , we all have and he doesn’t “invariably lose possession “ that’s just false
Pepe on the other hand – I agree with you

But you do have this weird martinelli irk

guest man aka WW

i do not like or vote corbyn….

DM

guest man

are you unable to answer the question, then?
“No politics just facts….indisputable logic.” …erm, how so?

Sid

Zionists is upper top or senior magement, jews are the guys in the cubicle

guest man aka WW

Zionism: discuss.
Its so obvious its not for me to educate you.
for your approval and directional understanding with simple issues….. i will say I’m none too pleased at bulldozed settlements.

Graham62

Tony

Agree.

Give Freddie a chance.

——————————

As for politics.

No thanks.

Pierre

Edu
Obviously you realise that you got it completely wrong when you tried to dig me out and now your backtracking.

I’ll leave it at that .

DM

“Zionism: discuss.
Its so obvious its not for me to educate you.
for your approval and directional understanding with simple issues….. i will say I’m none too pleased at bulldozed settlements.”

Again, what do you think Zionism is? It’s sad that you clearly have so many opinions on this complex issue without being able to define the very basic.

Jim Lahey

“Zionism”

When has that word been used other than as a derogatory term for Jews?

DM

Sid

Would you care to answer, too?

Genuinely interested what you guys think Zionism is.

The term gets used so much and has become this “evil thing”… so what exactly is it?

Globalgunner

DM
All my friends think I am good looking……..FACT

Lets just get back to the footie
No to Arteta!

James wood

Why hire a new manager on a vast Salary
and a massive severance/sacking Package.
When the side needs quality players in it’s
two back lines.
Makes no sense .
Keep and work with Freddie/ Per.
And buy the required players.

Un na naai

What’s wrong with Zionism?
Why shouldn’t the most persecuted race in human history have the right to a safe Jewish state to protect them from the hated they’ve suffered for millennia?

Un na naai

Hatred

James wood

Zionism.
Someone who likes smoked salmon and rollmops.?
For fuck sake all of you .
“It’s a football blog.”

Sid

DM what did they tell you it is? Thats what is important

DM

Un na naai

Be careful, you’re coming very close to sense here

lol, thank you. You know what always amazes me?

There are dozens of Christian countries in the world
There are dozens of Muslim countries in the world

There is one (tiny) Jewish country in the world. And everyone goes mad.

Un na naai

SidDecember 11, 2019 12:00:43
Zionists is upper top or senior magement, jews are the guys in the cubicle

No. Zionism is just a Jewish state. A safe land for Jews. That’s all.

DM

Sid

So you’re also unable to answer it, then. Real shame.

I mean it’s not even hard, you can literally Google it in 5 seconds.

Edu me a favour

Pierre

Tbh with you I did focus on the martinelli dig more than the actual analysis you were giving so I didn’t come prepared to fight – I just wanted to give you a bit of a ribbing for it

If I can admit that – just admit you have this little incey wincy thing against martinelli come onnnnnnnnn

Marc

Un

Scotland wants Independence and it’s about proud Scots wanting to control their own destiny. The Jew’s want a homeland and it’s some global conspiracy to control the world.

Marko

If you are Portuguese and have kicked a ball in the last 50 years, chances are you know someone that can land you an interview with Raul.

Are there even any Portuguese at the club? If the last Portuguese at Arsenal is named Boa Morte just go ahead and assume that Pedro is being overly dramatic for no reason again.

Marc

Marko

Does Sanllehi have some connection with Portugal?

Un na naai

There are dozens of Christian countries in the world
There are dozens of Muslim countries in the worldThere is one (tiny) Jewish country in the world. And everyone goes mad.

Dm

Only anti-semites. The rest of us understand what they’ve gone through and wish them well and want nothing but peace for them.

Sid

No one is mad at any country. People are mad at people being oppressed.

Un na naai

Marc

And I’m as happy for them to have it as I am for the Jewish promised land and the U.K.

Marc

Sid

Turns out that most of those people are only half mad about stuff. They don’t seem to get mad when Jew’s are oppressed.

Marc

Un

I keep meaning to phone Nicola Sturgeon and tell her I can guarantee a win in an independence vote for Scotland – just let the English vote in it!

Jamie

Wunderkid Nketiah can only manage 3 goals in 12 appearances for Leeds while head-down merchant Martinelli has scored 8 in 14 for Arsenal. And Martinelli is 2 years younger.

Upstate Gooner

If Arteta is so fucking great how come Everton are not after him? He’s as much their “legend” as he is ours. Legend – don’t make me laugh. One of the worst Arsenal signings of all time.

Un na naai

SidDecember 11, 2019 12:15:58
No one is mad at any country. People are mad at people being oppressed.

Then get mad about isis who are burning women and babies alive. Israel are largely protecting their people from the hatred they’ve suffered for millennia

DM

“No one is mad at any country. People are mad at people being oppressed.”

So you blame Zionism for people being oppressed?

Let’s just assume for a second that all your criticisms of Israel are 100% correct.

Do you also blame –
Islam for Islamic extremism / terrorism?
Ireland for the IRA?
Football for hooliganism?

The latter would be surprising seeing as you’re here on a football blog.

Now what if all your assumptions about Israeli oppression are not quite as accurate as you think?

It’s a humdinger, eh?

Un na naai

Marc

😂
Honestly I wish we’d just make it easy and just great then independence. Let them crawl to the EU for the inevitable subsidies

Marko

Forget his promises. This country would fall within five years. Sharia law would rule and your freedoms as you know it would cease to exist. He’s a communist

It’s sense like this that reminds me come what may on Thursday your country is duly and rightfully fucked. Recession loves a friend. Too many stupid people honestly.

Sharia law… it’s the stupidest buzzword to come from conservatives these last few years.

Marko

Wunderkid Nketiah can only manage 3 goals in 12 appearances for Leeds while head-down merchant Martinelli has scored 8 in 14 for Arsenal. And Martinelli is 2 years younger.

More goals in those 14 games than Eddie has in the last 2/3 years at Arsenal.

Marko

Does Sanllehi have some connection with Portugal?

Dunno man. I think Pedro has it twisted. Jorge Mendes is Portuguese and helped out on the Pepe signing. Kia Joorabchian is Iranian English and helped out with the Luiz signing.

Redtruth

Boris Johnson depicted Jews as controlling the media and being able to “fiddle” elections in a little-known 2004 novel written while he was a Tory MP, it has emerged.

The Conservative leader was branded “unfit to be prime minister” over passages from Seventy Two Virgins, which also includes numerous other questionable portrayals of ethnic minorities.

And clowns like DM are going to vote Tory…lol

Globalgunner

Marko
Politicians rely greatly on the stupidity of the majority. Turkeys voting for Xmas. Yes they do

Un na naai
Un na naai

Sharia law… it’s the stupidest buzzword to come from conservatives these last few years.

😂
Yeah. Because The Tory party invented sharia law. Fucking mongo

Redtruth

Un na naai

You’re at it again, defending the indefensible.

Un na naai

GlobalgunnerDecember 11, 2019 12:34:42
Marko
Politicians rely greatly on the stupidity of the majority. Turkeys voting for Xmas. Yes they do

If that were true we’d have all voted remain.

CG

Tierney out for 3 Months He is finished…..at the top level. ( he will back on loan to Celtic Jan 21 transfer window) What a bloody surprise….. Who on earth thought shelling out £30 million from SCOTLAND wise a idea on a player with his pitiful and chequered injury record. Sheer incompetence. Why did we not attempt to buy him in the window coming- once he proved his fitness at Celtic. Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee strike again! Choose a manager – I would not trust them to choose a tin of paint. The money this club wastes post and… Read more »

DM

Redtruth

Are you an idiot? I have said that I cannot stand Boris. I do not defend him in any way. But if you’re comparing his record on antisemitism with Corbyn’s…. mate, you must be mad. That’s like me saying that I’ll vote for the guy who is best friends with the KKK because his opponent once made a mildly racist comment.

Leftsidesanch

The day I log on here and see a comment from CG where he isn’t moaning or criticising someone/thing will be like sighting a UFO.

Redtruth

You don’t need a fake Nurse to tell you the NHS is on it’s knees.

Record levels of undefunding has seen NHS services at breaking point.

Oh and any wise guys poohpooing the claim, I can back it up with data and FACTS.

Pierre

Edu “If I can admit that – just admit you have this little incey wincy thing against martinelli come onnnnnnnnn” I did say back in August that he may be a bit of a head down merchant but I since retracted that due to his ability in and around the box , very impressive I did point out the other week how it had gone unnoticed the 2 assists Martinelli made against palace and a cut back v Eintracht I think it was. So no agenda from me , I also said that Martinelli would be a better option for… Read more »

Redtruth

Boris Johnson depicted Jews as controlling the media and being able to “fiddle” elections in a little-known 2004 novel written while he was a Tory MP, it has emerged.

The Conservative leader was branded “unfit to be prime minister” over passages from Seventy Two Virgins, which also includes numerous other questionable portrayals of ethnic minorities.

And clowns like DM are going to vote Tory……lol

Dream10

As Romford Pelé said above (welcome back), Ancelloti ain’t the right man for us.. He’s more used to teams who have complete squads. There is a chance that by the time the CL knockout stages come around, PSG or Real Madrid could be looking for a new manager. He’s perfectly capable of leading either side to CL glory. We need a plus manager. Someone who can at least make the team look cohesive, ideally greater than the sum of their parts. Like Klopp is doing at Liverpool. Emery wasn’t capable of that. Neither is Carlo who I am fan of.… Read more »

jwl

Arteta will be next version of René Meulensteen, allowed to train squad under world class manager, they are convinced they are genius but fail miserably when they become manager themselves.

There is a reason why Arteta is still sat beside Pep while most other wannabe managers look for head coach/manager jobs at lesser teams to learn their trade and work their way up.

Danny

Finally some good news, Xhaka will miss the Man City match!!

Marc

Red

What do you make of the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s comments about Corbyn earlier this week?

Marc

” Xhaka will miss the Man City match!!”

Praise the Football Gods!

Graham62

Who you vote for is irrelevant on here, nevertheless, anyone who votes for Corbyn needs their ruddy head seen to.

Redtruth

The vilification of the leader of the U.K. Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, as an anti-Semite has intensified in the run up to the Dec. 12 election in Britain. What makes this especially troubling, not to say bizarre, is that since he first became a member of parliament in 1983 Corbyn has been the most consistent campaigner against all forms of racism. In fact, while still a local councillor in London in 1977 Corbyn had already organized a defence of the Jewish population of Wood Green from a neo-Nazi march. A recent compilation of the number of motions he advanced in… Read more »

Luteo Guenreira

As always the truth lies somewhere in between. There are no right answers. Wanting peace is great but we’re all going to continue killing each other as always anyway. There will be no peace without compromise and acquiescence. So in other words, it’s never fucking happening. And as that is the case, it’s important to have an Israeli state that is intact and strong to act as a counter to some of the more sinister regimes in that area of the world. It really has fuck all to do with who deserves what in the global scheme of things.

Luteo Guenreira

I have a feeling it’s gonna be Paddy. I hope he does well if so, would be a trauma to see him fail at Arsenal.

Edu me a favour

Pierre

You did say all of that

In his next match I’m going to pay special attention to his play , away from the final third and see if you are indeed correct – if you are I will hold my hands up and bow to your infinite wisdom

DM

LOL REDTRUTH

Ok, you’ve asked for it. I wasn’t going to post this because it’s a bloody long read, but it’s such a brilliantly written (and accurate) article that I just have to. If you truly want to understand the scale of the antisemitism problem in the Labour party, read it.

https://medium.com/@sararoseofficial/everything-i-never-wanted-to-have-to-know-about-labour-and-antisemitism-649b5bc1e576

Un na naai

Well said Luteo
👏

Jamie

Can you imagine the apathy amongst Everton supporters if Moyes returns? Poor bastards. Talk about regressive.

Words on a Blog

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/12/11/carlo-ancelotti-arsenal-italians-hands-off-management-suits/

Thoughtful piece on why Ancelotti might not be the right fit for Arsenal.

Guns of Hackney

I think Sean Penn is contracted to smoke in every scene, in every movie he is in.

Arteta is a smooth operator. Great on TV. A media darling.

He has to be the guy.

Marc

Red

We all know you are capable of using the copy and paste function. What I asked was what you thought about the comments / allegations from the Simon Wiesenthal center?

I’d also like to know why you think an organisation that has no influence in UK politics would get involved in a General Election?

Marc

Guns

I’m amazed you think it’ll take a Corbyn Government 5 years to fuck the country. Personally if it manages not to completely fuck it in the first 20 minutes I’ll be stunned.

Redtruth

“It is an astonishing statistic: Some 87 percent of British Jews believe that Jeremy Corbyn—one of two men who could be prime minister in a few days’ time—is anti-Semitic.”

Here is an example of a false headline designed to mislead the reader and brainwash gullible fools like DM.

It’s 87% of Jews SURVEYED which is not the entire Jewish community as the headline suggests…

Guns of Hackney

Thanks DM.

It might also be worth noting that it was a Labour government under Blair that took us into an illegal war that has essentially changed the world forever and bought terror to your front door. Labour.

Make no mistake, Corbyn is an agitator that has no business being near no.10. He is not interested in politics but he is interested in watching the UK burn.

CG

You can talk about Politics until the Cows come Home- the amount Arsenal waste on ridiculous over rated players is abhorrent and more importantly totally immoral. ( pre and post Wenger) Your ire should be aimed at the club- not governments. Page 1- all governments of whatever hue will screw you over. They are joined at the hip. One big party combined. I advise you all – not to get your knickers in a twist – whoever wins. the world will continue- they will always lie to you regardless …and Le grove will still be Free. They will all let… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Marc

I was being conservative. Boom bloody boom.

Corbyn is dangerous. Really fucking dangerous.

Those murderous bastards that butchered Lee Rigby would be let out with a hand shake and compensation. Corbyn actually said at the time he sympathised with the killers and could see their point.

This is not the man you want running the country.

guest man aka WW

@ graham…. yeah i agree…..corbyn could plunge this country into a black hole…lol….
AS for DM….you need to really understand geopolitics….educating yourself on media propaganda and failing to understand the difference between pathetic labelling of anti semetism and outright fascist Zionism is really puerile.
Read david icke pal……he explains it with ease

HighburyLegend

“He has to be the guy.”

@GoH : he will.
Pep will be his assistant.

Micheal

Boris Johnson is a lying, racist narcissist and a moral vaccum. Nobody with a conscience should vote conservative.

DM

Redtruth “It is an astonishing statistic: Some 87 percent of British Jews believe that Jeremy Corbyn—one of two men who could be prime minister in a few days’ time—is anti-Semitic.”Here is an example of a false headline designed to mislead the reader and brainwash gullible fools like DM.It’s 87% of Jews SURVEYED which is not the entire Jewish community as the headline suggests…” Well earlier I asked if you were an idiot. You have now clearly answered in the affirmative. That whole article and you focus on this!! HAHA. Firstly, it’s a frequently-used method, which everyone does – just like… Read more »

Redtruth

The UK need a sugar daddy like Corbyn to get it back on it’s feet.
No coincidence Arsenal’s demise is because of lack of investment in the team.
Ploughing money into a project will see growth and success.
The Tory Party are Arsensl while Labour are Man City.
It’s not rocket science to know which is the more desirable choice..

DM

guest man aka WW You’re an idiot. Don’t tell me how I’ve educated myself on media propoganda. I LITERALLY LIVE THIS. My family are in Israel. They have been running to their safe rooms (you probably don’t even know what these are – and you’re lucky that you don’t have to) and bomb shelters frequently over the last 2 months (not to mention countless times in the last 2 decades!) because of the rockets coming in from Gaza (which you are no doubt unaware, because these are never reported – only when the retaliation happens is it reported). You are… Read more »

Un na naai

Read david icke pal……he explains it with ease

Guestman

David Icke believes the world is run by lizard people. Literally. Shape shifting lizard people. I love a good conspiracy but this man is a loony

Left testicle

Will crazy Corbyns four day working week extend to the police and nurses. If not, why not?

Guns of Hackney

DM has just become my new favourite poster.

I also had an old friend posted on the Gaza Strip…he was in the military.

He said it was horrific and like you just mentioned, the reports are only mentioned when Israel fight back.

Corbyn shakes hands with terrorists.

Marc

Guns

I’m amazed the “security services” haven’t leaked some tapes on him. He is a threat to national security on all levels. Even that fucking idiot shadow minister has said so.

Marc

Left

If Corbyn gets in huge numbers will be working a 0 day week.

Redtruth

GoH

More lies and smears, post the supposed comments and source made by Corbyn

Guns of Hackney

4 day fucking weeks.
Rolling blackouts.
No bin collections.
Strikes every day.
70% tax for higher earners.
No wonder the Rolling Stones left England. As did the majority of celebs and stars.

Labour in the 1970’s.

This clown lives for this chaos.

Marc

Left

On a serious note I still haven’t been told how I’d still be paid for a 5 day working week when only working 4 days – the bollocks about increased productivity doesn’t cut it.

Guns of Hackney

Red

You’re the copy pasted man. Not me.

Wasi

CG
Enough already with your Tierney was a mistake argument. By Jan 21 you will yourself agree that Tierney was a bargain.

Marc

Guns

Can you imagine the snow flake generation not being able to use their mobiles because they haven’t been able to charge them due to black outs?

Marc

Guns

Labour have said they are only going to increase tax on “billionaires” and ask them to pay a small amount more.

Now as there are only 151 billionaires in the country and 148 of them have made plans to get the fuck out of the country should he win where’s the money going to come from?

Redtruth

DM

Lol…You as a Zionist slandering Corbyn is to be expected…lol

Marc

Can’t believe someone seriously mentioned David Icke as a credible source.

Spanishdave

It’s obvious that many of you here were not born when in winter due to constant strikes the lights went out 3 days per week. The country came to a standstill. The Labour Party were in government. The IRA killed over 3000 innocent people in England and Corbyn was their chum. Blair took us into the Middle East and 3000 soldiers died , the Muslims ever since have waged war on us and kill innocent people in the process. Brown robbed the private sector pensions and sold our gold reserves at the bottom of the market. Yeh vote labour see… Read more »