Freddie starts badly; this has serious implications. (ANOTHER long read)

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You might be heading here this morning thinking I’m about to launch into Freddie Ljungberg and the drab opener to his career in the hot seat. If that’s the case, you’ll be disappointed. We put in exactly the sort of performance I was expecting after the handsome Swede had spent just two days with a squad that looks like it’s been on a 4-day stag-do bender in Benidorm with the boys from Croydon’s biggest building site.

No new-manager-bounce for Freddie. I think fans were genuinely more interested in what he was going to wear before the game, an event far more likely to bring joy than the collection of players that have been mailing it in under a banter manager for 18 months. Turns out, his attire wasn’t quite as striking as we’d hoped. He looked like an account guy in advertising that’d just moved to 3 bedroom garage renovated space, in Stoke Newington, preparing to pop out to pick up a takeaway from Pizza Express. No 3 piece tweed ensemble for the ages, nothing CK flare-ish, just a bit boring.

His team selections were also a bit, how can we say it kindly? Interesting.

He brought back Mustafi, Ozil, and Xhaka. He opted to try and make Lacazette and Auba work upfront. He played his favourite, Joe Willock. His defence omitted Tierney, had Chambers at right-back, along with David Luiz. If we’re being forgiving, which we are, he might have been playing the politics card before he hits the team with his true vision. Conte did that in his first season at Chelsea (bringing a back 3 in after 10 games); play the card everyone wants you to play, prove it’s shite, then switch it up. I mean, not that crazy a thought, Freddie believes in high octane pressing and his front three were Ozil, Lacazette and Auba.

The attacking output was interesting for the first 15 minutes, the passing was more direct, there were some attempts at the combination play of old. The problem though, as always, was the defence. We were a total mess as usual. The midfield did a very bad job holding their shape, the players in the back 4 looked like they were new to the game, and there was the typical array of poor individual performances.

David Luiz just isn’t built for the game in 2019. He’s desperately off the pace, he’s lacking confidence for the first time in his career, and he’s lost that edge we used to hate about him. In the heat of spending frenzy last summer, we all hoped this was a masterstroke. Now we’re looking at him in cold light of day, it’s apparent that was a ‘contacts’ signing for the ages. Nearly £200k a week, a bunch of agents fees, and a pretty large transfer fee on someone that just doesn’t have it.

The manager took a lot of flak for his subs, again, I thought this was unfair. Is there really much of a difference between Saka and Pepe at the minute? Freddie basically said Pepe trains badly. He was an elite player, we might not trust his judgement on knitwear, but you can’t deny that he’s likely very attuned to effort levels in training sessions.

The overarching problem for Freddie is a simple one: He’s the caretaker.

Arsenal won’t give him the job fulltime. The players absolutely know this. Sadly, they’re all still in holiday mode. Freddie is a nice guy that they all like, but he doesn’t have any real authority in that role, because the players know he’ll be leaving. That’s not a slight on Freddie, when Alex Ferguson announced his first retirement years ago, he had to cancel it because his squad switched off. Our squad is a collection of pampered babies, they’ll take any excuse you throw their way.

Regardless, I hoped they might want to play for him, but just look at the overall pace of that game and the lack of commitment. There was no fire in the tackle, everything was halfhearted, no one risked 50/50s. The players weren’t giving it their all, because Freddie doesn’t matter to them like he should do.

That means the club really is going to have to go very hard to make sure the manager we hire is in the door by January 1st. We need authority in the dressing room and we need some ideas on how to get the team ticking again. I cannot accept the notion that the squad is worse than Norwich or Southampton, it’s simply too easy to play that card. Leicester have been a sub 50 points a season team for 3 years, their players weren’t shite, the managers were. No one, and I mean no one, had that squad of players down as anything outside average when we tanked them in 2018 with a blistering performance. Now they have a very good coach, he has them in 2nd, and apparently all he’s done is awaken an incredibly balanced squad. Not true.

Good coaching makes a difference. Players are just like us. They buy into ideas. They want to operate in an organised unit. They want to win. We need some fire in the dressing room and we need someone capable of reenergizing players that have lost their way.

It’s super trendy for everyone to talk about the deeper problems at Arsenal. I’m with everyone on that, but let’s not overcomplicate football here. We need a manager with a believable idea, good communication skills, with the ability to crack the whip in a positive way.

The managerial shortlist looks unwieldy at the minute, but it’s filtering down as we learn more about the names.

The Guardian ran a piece yesterday that said the club has massively cooled on the idea of inviting a super agent lackey into an already messy situation. I’m am VERY pleased about that.  Thank you to everyone that raised the alarm there, you clearly made a difference here. Nuno would have been a fucking disaster. It looks like he’s off the shortlist.

Pochettino is apparently a favourite of the board. Why wouldn’t he be? The guy is absolute mustard, he’d be an incredible hire, but from what I understand, it is very, very unlikely he’d tarnish his reputation for Arsenal. So, likely rule him out.

Allegri has been out of a job for a while considering his talent. Word on the street is he interviewed very badly. He couldn’t sprechen zie English that well and he also asked the club to sell him on Arsenal (power move). That’s a bad footing he might struggle to come back from. I think Allegri is a saucy beast, but his English is very poor if you watch his online videos, but more to the point, the guy is at the top of his game. He’ll want to win the Champions League with his next move, fast. Any human arrogant enough to ask for the interviewer to sell them on the role is probably not suited to a shit show like Arsenal. No money, an unbalanced squad, and basically a huge step back for a top, top manager.

Brendan Rodgers is interested in Arsenal. He couldn’t be any more excited about the opportunity. He’s clearly had his people leak ‘dream job’ to the press, and he wasn’t exactly emphatic when asked about his desire to remain with the Leicester project. Brendan is not everyone’s cup of tea, but look, the guy is a very good coach, he’s certainly better than Emery and it’s very hard to deny what he’s done at Leicester is anything outside exceptional. The football he played when he took Liverpool to 2nd was outstanding. Celtic might be a cakewalk, but keeping any side focused enough to be invincible is a notable achievement. If we end up with him, I’d certainly not complain. Only worry with Brendy R is he’s a bit of a berk, and I wonder how that’d go down with players that ripped the piss out of their last manager to his face. There’s also a harsh sting with Brendan: He comes with a £14m buyout clause and he’d likely cost us £10m a year (with his team). Just three weeks ago people were leaking that we were struggling to meet the ‘fuck off’ fee of Emery’s last 6 months. We are skint. I do not think we’ll be throwing that sort of money at a manager because that will hit our summer transfer budget. He’d be a solid hire regardless.

I’ve written extensively about Mikael Arteta, you know my feelings on him, he’s certainly on the radar of the club. He has had a lot of strong endorsements in the media (Henry Winter, arguably the #1 English journalist, being the biggest). He’d come at a very low cost, he’d slot right into the system, and he’d arrive with a big idea we’d all salivate over. Challenge with him is does he engage with Arsenal again after what happened last time? Would he fuck Pep over at a very bad time for the Manchester club? We’re what he wants, the question is, do the club have the cojones to make a hire that has some meek fans wetting their pants / calling me a melon fucker on Twitter.com.

Carlo Ancelotti will most certainly be asked about the role again. He knows the league, he’s world-class at bringing players together, and he has the sexy prestige that’ll have Raul firming up at the dinner table. I love Carlo and what he’s done, but I do think he’s had his time at the very top. He’s not a tactical master and most of his success comes when he’s given the best tools to work with. Also worth remembering that he lost to Emery in the Europa League last season, during a really bad Arsenal run of form. He also comes with a huge entourage of expensive people, including his son I believe. He’s a superstar manager, on superstar wages, not quite sure he’d deliver to the levels we’d want, but still a solid name to consider just because he’s a very cool guy and I like him.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see someone like Ralph Rangnick considered again. He’s been targeted by a lot of top clubs, Bayern had a go for him and United were rumoured to be interested. I would have preferred him as a technical director, not sure if he has the management chops for the Premier League, but it’s hard to argue that he’d not be suited to our mess at the moment. He’s picked up far worse problem clubs in his career and pushed them forward. RB are also at the forefront of football development. He’s had his fingers in lots of club pies with their franchise and Red Bull are doing pretty well out of it.

Patrick Vieira will be sniffing around the role. Petit was speaking about it at the weekend. I love him, but again, is the work he’s doing at Nice getting anyone moist? I don’t think so. For me, if you’re going to hire him, you might as well give the job to Per and Freddie. I think the football will be about the same level when all is said and done.

The shame of this process is we can’t consider names like Ten Haag, Marco Rose, and Paulo Fonseca. Oddly, not even Gio Van Bronckhorst because City are eyeing him for New York or to replace Pep. We leave a lot of good names on the table by shooting for a manager now, but as you saw today, if we don’t move in the next 30 days, Champions League qualification is lost.

Anyway… point about the above, the shortlist is starting to shrink. The frontrunners to me look like Brendan, Carlo and Arteta. All solid, all very different, all an improvement.

Still, early days, plenty of time for the club to fuck this up.

Right, see you in the comments.

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Ishola70December 2, 2019 14:43:08
The problem was Don was that the club were content to just keep on flat track bullying.

Ishola
Yeah. I’ll say it once again…. and now we can’t even do that. For all your agitating and backing if any old cunt now look where we are.

You can say it til the cows come home but I’d rather be flat track bullying, (bull shit anyway) than being rolled over by relegation fodder

Marko

Just to highlight the sheer hypocrisy in the scare mongering with regards to hiring Nuno Santos as manager because it means getting in bed with Mendes up top Pedro literally says “the shame of this process is we can’t consider names like Ten Haag, Marco Rose, and Paulo Fonseca.” Without a hint of irony when you consider Fonseca’s agent is Jorge Mendes. And Fonseca is a favourite in these parts. I think it comes down to Arteta really

Un na naai

MarkoDecember 2, 2019 16:43:59
And manu would say we got robbed with PepeMany would be stupid then imo. You

Yes
Many would be stupid. He’s been woefully mismanaged and ruined at a club where attacks are harder to come by than a night with Dawn French.

DaleDaGooner

Pedro, you melon fucker….you still on this Michael Art shit init? LOL melon fucker…lol that’s funny.

Dan Ahern

Great overview Pedro.

Not sure I buy that Freddie was just doing the expected to prove it’s shit though. For one he moved off the back five, and he also had our three best attackers on. And his comments on the subs show he’s going by his preferences, not the fans. I think he’s doing what he thinks is best, and to be honest it was pretty disappointing.

For a guy with nothing to lose I just don’t see why he’s picking a Xhaka-Guendo pivot in front of Mustafi and Luiz.

Marko

“However, Pochettino has reaffirmed his commitment to get straight back into work and has revealed that his links with Spurs would not prevent him from joining another Premier League club.”

🙄

Un na naai

“Arsenal sacked Emery after 18 months in charge during their longest winless run since 1992”

For those who claim that Graham is better than Wenger. Or was.
Our longest winless run was 1992 before now. Even emery’s shithouse iteration of arsenal wasn’t as bad as the dogshit served up by Graham in 92.

There is only one invincibles

Paul Mc Daid

Bad enough having Kroneke as the owner but the pricks on the board are even more worrying , I can live with Edu but this guy Raul is a real snake by all accounts, The future looks real bleak, Will never be back to what we grew up with till the Owners and the board are sorted, No manager could work under this idiotic, clueless regime.

Pierre

Ishola “All this Mustafi and Xhaka talk is just red herring stuff from him.” I said before the game yesterday that it wouldn’t surprise me to see xhaka and Mustafi in the team and that’s how it transpired. I cant say that I was too keen on the formation but we did play some decent football , especially in the first half.. Regarding Ozil, one of the clown’s biggest mistakes was taking Ozil away from set piece duties and Freddie was astute enough to recognise this , and was rewarded with a couple of goals and other chances created from… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

Marko

Interesting.

That along with the word ‘project’ makes me think he might be looking at Arsenal.

HighburyLegend

“And manu would say we got robbed with Pepe”

And he would be right.

Un na naai

Anyone else think David O’leary Looks like David Icke?

TR7

Arsenal and Manchester United face the daunting prospect of having to negotiate with Tottenham Hotspur chairman Daniel Levy if they want to appoint Mauricio Pochettino this season.

Pochettino has been replaced by Jose Mourinho at Spurs, but Telegraph Sport can reveal that, under the terms of his exit, the club would still be entitled to compensation from any club, at home or abroad, that attempts to appoint the Argentine before the summer.

Distant legrover

Freddie obviously wants to drop Xhaka, Mustafi, Ozil, Luiz, Kolasinac. But first he wants to show them and the world why he’s going to drop them. So he plays them, they mess up and he drops em.

Kayciey

We should move Chambers to DM position, Torrerria is too lightweight for that position, Xhaka switches off at times.

Ishola70

Pedro warning about potential vipers in the nest in getting super agent Mendes involved relating to a Nuno Santo appointment that is not going to happen anyway.

Well his warnings are a bit late.

The vipers are in the nest already.

These being Edu and Joorabchian.

There were people who predicted the David Luiz signing when Edu was appointed and they also predicted that Arsenal would be dealing more with Joorabchian in the future now that Edu has come on board at Arsenal.

Vipers already in.

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HighburyLegendDecember 2, 2019 17:23:41
“And manu would say we got robbed with Pepe”And he would be right.

HL
Guess you didn’t notice the two worldies he scored 3 weeks ago then was ceremoniously benched again

Distant legrover

If he drops them for not being good enough then they can’t complain. And the fans won’t complain either.

That Freddie is a genius huh.

Guns of SF

I think Freddie was appealing to the veterans on the team, and those marginalized by Emery when he picked the line up. Perhaps he felt that connecting again with them would help and we would see a response. I think having team spirit is important to Freddie and he has kind of alluded to that in his interviews.

Its still a way to go into the season and i dont think he wants to marginalize anyone.
Lets see what this week brings- who he picks before we really get a flavor of what he is about

Distant legrover

I was just watching the players training video. Man Ozil is such a mood killer. This guy is always looking moody and disinterested. Body language of an Egyptian mummy. I can’t imagine what that’s like in the dressing room.

Kayciey

This should be our first eleven going forward.
1. Leno
2. Belerin
3. Tierney
4. Holding
5. Luiz/Mustafi/Mavaropanos/Socratis
6. Chambers.
7. Pepe
8. Ceballos/Guendouzi
9. Auba/Lacazette
10. Ozil/Willock
11. Martinelli

Distant legrover

Guns

Yeah people need to relax, jumping to final conclusions after one game. Freddie is only just testing the waters. He’s well aware the fans don’t like Xhaka, Mustafi for example.

Ishola70

Edu has known Joorabchian and Giuliano Bertolucci for years.

It’s the Brazilian connection.

Joorabchian and Bertolucci deal on the Brazilian scene.

Edu and Joorabchian did their thing and gave us the awful signing of David Luiz.

I await Pedro’s blog entry on Edu telling us he is a viper in the nest and must be run out of the club.

Un na naai

Michael B Joardn as superman? Fuck me 🤢 🤮
Creed= shit
Black panther= shit

This is the worst. Thought they couldn’t get lower after suicide squad but this? A black superman??
Ah well. Good bye DC. Get woke go broke.

Ishola70

Edu must be run out of the club.

Otherwise Arsenal become a nasty super agent club.

Un na naai

Its like trying to get woody Allen to play Blade.

Just noooooo

Guns of SF

Unnai
How dare Superman be black??

The day we got brought out by, ruggy kroenke, I turned to a fellow gooner and told him how I believed this was the worst thing to ever happen to Arsenal and that we’d be fucked. Looks like I was right.

Ishola70

Pedro must do an entry on how Arsenal have now become a super agent club with the appointment of Edu and his connections with Joorabchian and Bertolucci.

We are fucked as a club. Long live kroenke

Distant legrover

Un na naai

Hollywood is on crack at the moment, didn’t you know ? What’s next, black Gandalf ?

Graham62

Marko

You get where I’m coming from in this.

The thing is, the “suits”who hired Emery( actually I thought it was Ivan the terrible)) are not worthy of their positions.

Ivan was another typical example of someone who talked the talk but could not walk the walk.

Google is irrelevant when you can see with your own eyes that these guys are utterly useless.

We are the only club with so many dysfunctional suits running the show.

I include our owner and board in this.

That Dreamcast Kid

Luiz was at the heart of BRA71L back in World Cup 2014 but that one was a freakish hilarious result tbh.

Distant legrover

TYAG

The real question is when will Gazidis be replaced ? We were told Raul and the Indian guy were going to run the club until a CEO was chosen. Yet all we hear about is Raul, Raul, Raul. He’s doing the job of 3 people just like Wenger used to.

Leftsidesanch

Whats wrong with a Black Superman? Un

Infact…nevermind.

Ishola70

People like to slate Raul but when it comes to an ex Arsenal player not so keen eh.

Distant legrover

Raul and the rest of the team, need a boss that they can report to, who isn’t named Kroenke.

Graham62

For all of Ozil’s positive moves yesterday, he’s still not good enough.

Distant

That’s my take on it.

See what the shite players have got in the tank and drop them when there gauge reads empty.

Great manmanagement by Freddie.

Graham62

their gauge

Pierre

Ishola “Pierre was showing no sympathy for Xhaka or Mustafi previously nor screaming for their return but we have to believe now he was always secretly rooting for them.” Am I screaming for their return..of course not . I know it’s a little difficult for you to comprehend , but it is possible to make a comment about a player or players when discussing what the manager may do , without it being some endorsement of their abilities. Will add that I have never been against or for Mustafi and xhaka , though I don’t believe they are as bad… Read more »

Leftsidesanch

And Chambers would be horrid at DM for us, so would Luiz who is horrid all round.

Ishola70

Leftsidesanch
“And Chambers would be horrid at DM for us, so would Luiz who is horrid all round.”

It’s called clutching at straws Leftside.

Both Chambers and Luiz would be too slow to be real effective DMs.

And we are talking of DMs in the sense of defending.

salparadisenyc

“People like to slate Raul but when it comes to an ex Arsenal player not so keen eh.” Raul’s a pretty easy target at moment. Bought Pepe for £72m when our defense was screaming for help, think many at start of last summer were calling for club to start in the rears and work forward with whatever was left. Raul did the opposite and signed Luiz, which was always going to come back with a stinger a really poor signing. Had zero plan for replacing Emery at this stage with writing emblazoned on every wall and here we are. On… Read more »

Ishola70

Sal

Edu is the obvious player in the signing of David Luiz.

Join the dots.

Pierre

Graham “For all of Ozil’s positive moves yesterday, he’s still not good enough.” Maybe try watching the game from a different perspective Graham. He did have an influence on the game so at this particular time , he is good enough. Below is an assessment of his performance “However, it was Mesut Ozil, who seemed to go unnoticed with his performance against the Canaries. For starters, the German created both goals from set-pieces he took as Daniel Farke’s side struggled with Ozil’s set-piece magic. He was also at the heart of everything the side did creative-wise, playing the most key… Read more »

Ishola70

But Raul appoints Edu so the ultimate buck stops with him.

But let’s not pretend that Arsenal sign David Luiz without Edu being around.

Edu has the connections with Kia Joorabchian and Giuliano Bertolucci .

Edu did that nasty deal overseen by Raul.

salparadisenyc

Ishola

“connect the dots’

The dude maneuvered Mislintat out, brought in Edu and this was his statement summer. He’s very much culpable for everything thats transpired.

Ishola70

I saw one of Ozil’s shots in the Norwich match.

It snailed into the Norwich keepers arms at precisely 1 mph.

Ozil wasn’t bad neither was he really eye catching.

Teams score goals from corners.

Arsenal have scored a few from Xhaka corners as well.

Danny S

Pierre, you’re becoming a bit of an embarrassment.

I think you need a break from football.

Pierre

Ishola “Both Chambers and Luiz would be too slow to be real effective DMs” You dont quite understand the position do you. Pace is not top of the list to be an effective DM. Top of the list is discipline, positional sense and technique The reason why xhaka and Guendouzi are often seen chasing shadows is due to their continued poor discipline and poor positional sense. For both goals yesterday they were ahead of the play , an effective DM is never ahead of the play , he should see everything that is going on in front of him and… Read more »

Ishola70

salparadisenyc
“The dude maneuvered Mislintat out, brought in Edu and this was his statement summer. He’s very much culpable for everything thats transpired.”

Of course the buck stops with him and we all know the connection between Edu and the super agents that deal on the Brazilian scene.

So the original point that was made that Arsenal are now a super agent club stands.

But what we have heard in the last few days is that Arsenal could become a super agent club if Mendes becomes involved.

Arsenal are already a super agents club when Raul appoints Edu.

Guns of SF

Pierre

I agree…. however the game has moved on with such pace and off the ball movement that the traditional DM faces a harder task.
our issue is putting too many men forward ( lack of creators and technical dribblers to beat their man) and then get caught in posession or counter attacked and with too much space behind.

Ishola70

Pierre

If you want me to add other aspects in why Luiz and Chambers are not the real deal at DM other than being snails then there are others as well.

Of these is discipline and concentration in which you correctly state Gilberto had in spades.

Glad that has been cleared up.

Un na naai

Still from wakanda

Pierre

Danny S.
Why would I want to take a break, my predictions have predominantly been spot on.

It’s not my fault certain posters ( know nothings) have little or no understanding of the intricacies of the game.

I will put you in that category ,unless you can prove me wrong.

Wasi

Marko

One super agent sold us Mykhi for nearly 200k a week.

Another sold us Ozil for 350k a week.

Luiz for somewhere between 120k-150k a week + 8mil.

Just a few recent examples of us being robbed by super agents . Whereas good data would of got us better players for the same amount of cash.

Dan Ahern

Super man is an alien, chief

Un na naai

Super agents are driving up the cost of football all while the living wage stagnates or drops.
Should have put a cap on it years ago

salparadisenyc

Ish

Agree with that, I don’t see a crime in dealing with the super agent sos long as club don’t get too invested or wedded in. Big Weng never dealt with them and we missed some obvious solutions along the way with that policy.

Un na naai

On what planet is Paul Pogba worth £100m??
Krypton

Hahahaha

Guns of SF

A better scouting program would lead to less dealing with Super Agents.
Where is our chief scout

Un na naai

Dan ahern

So should we make him green with orange hair?

Dan Ahern

Guess I’m in the minority here but I thought the David Luiz deal was fine. Sure he’s a clown but it is what it is. He’s still a one-time top international coming in to do what he’s always done. You know what you’re getting. We can argue about why it wasn’t stylistically a great target for our squad, but that’s another issue. £8m ain’t a bad price tag.

PieAFC

The team against Brighton at home. Will be the players and team Freddie wants.

I reckon we’re see players from Norwich dropped.

Here’s hoping…

Ishola70

Sal

The problem is there are crimes in dealing with super football agents.

We have seen one this summer with the Luiz signing.

And we saw one dealing with the slimiest of all super football agents Mino Raiola when he dumped Mhiki on us and this occurred under Gazidis and Wenger.

Dan Ahern

Un na na — Sure, who gives a fuck. Oh, right, you. Maybe you can see the real problem now.

Pierre

Guns of sf
I would put 2 DM’s in there and have 4 offensive players Aubameyang, Lacazette, Pepe/Martinelli, Ozil .

This also allows more scope for the full.backs to support the attack as there will be cover from the DM’s.

Against Norwich , whenever we lost the ball , especially on the right hand side , there was no cover from midfield.

Un na naai

Dan

Yeah the David Luiz deal was dog shit
Outrageous

Danny S

Pierre It’s your Ozil obsession. Stats are easy to look at and make judgments but they arnt the full picture. Mustafi last season had better tackle and header stats than van dyke. But there are oceans between them quality wise cause mustafi is an idiot. Point in case, he was told you guessed by per not to go to ground, so because he’s thick he just backed of and backed off. Ozil, when his assists went down, you banged on about chances created. Then when that went to shit you banged on about how he wasn’t being deployed right. Ozil… Read more »

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Dan AhernDecember 2, 2019 19:00:24
Un na na — Sure, who gives a fuck. Oh, right, you. Maybe you can see the real problem now.

Let’s see how much money the film makes
They did the same shit with Star Wars and ghostbusters and look what happened there!
You don’t mess with the icons

azed

Ozil is so good we need him for set pieces.

Funny thing is we’ve scored enough goals from set pieces we don’t a 350k player for that.

Pierre

Pie
“I reckon we’re see players from Norwich dropped.Here’s hoping…”

I reckon the only change will be offensively, Martinelli or Pepe in for Guendouzi or Willock.

Maybe a change at full backs if Bellerin or Tierney are considered fit.

Guns of SF

Another problem is the lack of goals from our Mids.
Utter rubbish

We are so completely dependent on our forwards that teams can mark us quite easily. When Guen powers into the box- im always thinking- Yes thats its…!

When Ozil shoots- I think yes!

Unless the team finds us scoring/technical fast and strong mids, we will continue in this shitty manner.

Maddison/Docoure in summer… we need to add power, scoring and quickness

salparadisenyc

Ish

Inherently there is always going to be issues where agents are concerned, be it the super agent, down to the man with a single client like the lovely Dr. Erkut Sogut.

They have driven valuations beyond the pale yet the clubs keep rising to the challenge. Precisely why the NFL put a salary cap on clubs.

Un na naai

Sf

We ain’t getting Maddison
He’s going to United or Liverpool or somewhere
We’d best go in for grealish before it’s too late
Maddison is never coming to us. We are never going to afford him
He will he premium

Un na naai

Maddison might even go spurs when eriksen leaves

Pierre

Danny a “Having him sitting there on 350k for the occasional performance we get out of him is an affront to fans and other players alike” Azed “Funny thing is we’ve scored enough goals from set pieces we don’t need a 350k player for that.” And here we have the crux of the matter , money ……its only a major issue at Arsenal. It’s pretty sad that the know nothing’s will only relate a performance to his wage packet . Who gives a toss what a player earns , it’s what they do on the pitch that matters. If Ozil… Read more »

Ishola70

Sal

The club shouldn’t be concerned with price in regards agents.

It’s the buying of shit that is the main concern.

Both Luiz and Mhiki were shit signings regardless of fees.

Guns of SF

Unnai
quite possible with Maddison.
Unless we get Rodgers it would be hard to get him.

We do need a player in this mold… someone who has it all
Docoure I think we can get- especially when Watford get relegated

Un na naai

Think though
You’ve got
Foden
Maddison
Mount
Grealish all coming through
All classy attacking mids
ESR under that lot
Saka, sancho and Hudson odoi on the wings.

Got some serious young attacking players coming through
Chilwell and Trent Arnold bombing with them.

All we need is a spine

Marc

Wolves vs ManU in the Cup –

Gunnernet

Great post Pedro and arguments terse and to the point regarding Freddie’s 1st game. I disagree though with the notion that he would pick a side he doesnt believe in to switch later on.. I can understand Tierney’s omission but inclusion of xhaka and mainly mustafi was shocking.

Brendan and Carlo still my favourites. Interesting u didnt mention Rafa in your list. I think the board will consider him.

Marc

Liverpool vs Everton

CG

David Luiz only has…

2.5 seasons to go….

How slow will he be in season 21/22?

And Do we want Saliba learning the ropes of Luiz?

Our Teck Deck -wanted him though.

(Bournemouth 4 Chelsea 0
City 6 Chelsea 0)

Do these people actually analyse soccer?

Were they not at all curious why Chelsea with a transfer ban in place were so keen to sell to us?

Denis Suarez, Pepe, Cebollas, Tierney (injured),Luiz.

Utter tripe.
Fortunes frittered away.

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SF

We’ve got no chance there. He’s going for £50-£60m in the summer if Rodgers leaves and
1) we ain’t got that
2) if we did we wouldn’t spend it on him
3) he won’t come to us, Rodgers or not. He’s going somewhere he will get the English premium wages
We need to build like Liverpool and spurs did. Slowly slowly catchy monkey

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Do these people actually analyse soccer?

CG

Football mate…

Marc

Arsenal vs Leeds

Pierre will be fucked off Eddie won’t be playing for either!

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Greenwood, Rahsford Kane and Sterling up front
Maguire, Gomez and stones in front of Pickford

Could use a few midfielders of the Ince,Scholes and Gerrard persuasion though
Real dearth of out and out cmf in the national team these days

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Denis Suarez, Pepe, Cebollas, Tierney (injured),Luiz.

But harsh on tierney and Pepe there CG

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Tierney is a very good left back and I think pepe is going to be top drawer. You get those two under Rodgers or Poch and they light a fucking fire up at arsenal

CG

If Leeds play a full strength team and Luiz plays.

Buy Leeds Goals.

They will murder us..
They are good!

Marc

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Tierney took a knock in training on Friday. As I understand leaving him out was precautionary.

CG would have you believe he’s out for the next 4 months.

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Ah

Le grove is mine!!!

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Marc

Yeah. That’s not what I’m on about. CG is saying he’s shite
I’m defending him

CG

Walt

Tienrey can play

But he is a crock.

These lads never get fit

Think Wilshere
Harsh but fair.

Marc

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Not following you?

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Xavi Hernandez says he’s manage arsenal
Wonder how he will get on
Something tells me he will she a great manager
Understands the game bery bery bwell. Does he have the minerals and the personality to boss a dressing room though?

Marc

CG

He had a hernia – it’s nothing like Wilshere, Diaby or even Ramsey who all had issues stemming from previous injuries.

If you want to talk about a genuine crock then Darren Anderton’s you man.