Emery sacked. A disaster hire, but who is accountable for it?

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Unai Emery arrived at Arsenal on his 555th as coach and was told his contract was to be terminated. I suspect he knew what was coming judging by his body language last night. His staff will also leave the club with him.

The hire was a disaster from start to finish. Raul put the Spaniard’s name on the table when Ivan Gazidis wobbled on Arteta during the search and select process. In a fit of panic no one ran his credentials through a quick Google search. No one picked up the phone to people that had worked with him in the past. No one consulted the data people. The deal was rammed through at such a pace, not one person seemed to raise a red flag about his terrible English. Interview to hire in 8 days.

We paid the price. Almost all of the problems faced by Emery seemed to revolve around his lack of ability to communicate both verbal and non-verbally.

He couldn’t command a room. The man had zero presence. No X factor. People laughed when I raised that, but let’s be honest, if you don’t have an impressive stage presence, you are going to struggle to maintain the attention of 21-year-old boys in a football environment. Players ripped him behind his back, to his face, even Sky presenters weighed in on the action. Disrespect happens to people that don’t have the magic. Wenger had the magic, Mourinho has it, so does Poch… Emery is right there with Glen Roeder when it comes to persona and it dripped through every single press conference. In fact, I hear that press conferences were barely attended towards the end, that says something, doesn’t it?

He couldn’t connect his vision to output on the pitch. In fact, it was questionable if there was a vision there to start with. If Emery was good at anything though, it was talking up a game he couldn’t deliver on. He told the fans he wanted to be the protagonist, when in fact he was a conservative pragmatist. He said he’d fix the defence, he broke it further. He promised us exciting football, he emptied stadiums.

I wrote very early on that Unai Emery represented our version of David Moyes. We’re now heading into the difficult second hire. Inexperienced execs will clamour for experience over substance, just like they did at Manchester United when they moved in on an LVG that was well past his prime.

This is not the time for regressing into bad ideas. We hired ‘experience’ last time and look where it landed us. We have to be looking to where the future of football is going. If we’re in the power and pace era right now, we have to peer around the corner to where the trends are going and find a coach who can take us there. Intense possession-based football is likely going to make a comeback and with young coaches like Thiaggo Motta making claims about 2-7-2 formations and controlling the game through the midfield, the evidence is mounting. Huge focus will be given to off the ball movement as well. A new type of coaching where the spaces you occupy are the tackles of yesteryear. We are not big enough to make a ‘tried and true’ coach work for us, so we need to go where the new thinking is.

‘This is all so hipster’ is something I hear a lot, but listen, looking to the future might feel like an oat milk latte served in a ‘goat support’ cafe in Primrose Hill, but it’s not, it’s absolute basics if you want to succeed. Pep was lambasted because of his ideas when he came to England. The English press were literally slamming the guy because he likes to experiment and push the game forward. Don’t be that person. If you need any evidence as to why, simply look a what just happened to Arsenal after we hired a mainstream Starbucks filter coffee.

Arsenal need to be bold, we need to look at what clubs like RB Leipzig, Gladbach, Rangers and Chelsea are doing. Go young, find someone that can galvanise the fans with future football, let’s not do the top 4 equivalent of calling Sam Allardyce to move us forward marginally over 15 months. Bring in a coach you can build around, don’t let Carlo bring in 18 of his mates with a spice of football that was bland 5 years ago.

What is desperate for us all regardless of the type of coach we desire is knowing that Raul is playing a key role in this decision.

That man is not good for Arsenal football club, he should be kept in check by a CEO that has oversight on him. The Spaniard and Vinnai have been the worst combo since Houllier and Evans. Our organizational structure is meek and so is the performance of it. The lack of strong leadership will continue to kill us, and in times like now, we really could do with a CEO that has a clue.

Raul will be stacking the deck in favour of people he knows. He was happy to jam through his preferred candidate last time, knowing full well he didn’t have the basics for the job. The fact he’s pushing Nuno tells you immediately where he wants to take us… to a super agent paradise.

Most fans don’t want that sort of future. It might seem glitzy, but when you boil it down, you simply open yourself up to be a fee cow for someone that wants to trade players around their personal network. Those systems are opaque, they lack accountability, they move the club away from being a meritocracy, they almost always end in tears. No super-agent cares about your club, they only care about their fees.

That’s why the power vacuum at Arsenal is so incredibly dangerous because really, a proper CEO would be laser-focused on Raul after this debacle and the mess of the summer.

They’d be asking questions like:

  • Why did Sven leave?
  • Why is there still no chief scout?
  • How did you come to the decisions on transfers last summer?
  • Why did you spend so much money on a 32-year-old centre back?
  • Can you replay the thinking behind hiring Unai Emery?
  • Knowing the history of Nuno and Mendes, can you explain why you think this is a good idea?
  • Can you show me how much money we have spent on agents fees over the past two years?

There’s no one guarding the chicken coup, and that would be fine if you had someone competent running the show, but it’s increasingly looking like Raul is the fox and he’s coming to town with his mates until he spies another chicken coup.

Josh Kroenke, the man who told us to get excited, let the club pull next years transfer budget forward, and seemingly blow it on a mess of players. I cannot deny that I wasn’t excited by the moves, but I’m just fan looking at a tasty cracker in the desert after not eating for 10 years. Our first summer of ‘contacts’ recruitment has been a disaster outside of Martinelli. The hiring approach run by Raul was horrendous. This season so far has been handled in appalling fashion, from Ozil, to Xhaka, to the horrendous press releases.

Now we’re out here hoping phase two of the project won’t be just as opaque and awful? The very fact the club is only just now building a shortlist tells you all you need to know about our leadership. We should have had a name ready to go just like Spurs did. That there’s now going to be a fight to the death for the next name is exactly the sort of incompetence I fear driving a terrible decision. Emery’s form this season was not a surprise, we should have known it was going to end by Christmas because many of us were predicting that last season.

We need a complete reset. The club has to move away from ‘contacts’ back to the footing Sven sold to us. There has to be aggressive moves from Edu to control the direction of the technical side. He needs to tell us what the future plan is. Then he needs to deliver something the fans can get behind that doesn’t have the paw prints of Raul on it.

Manchester United are the most powerful footballing entity on the planet, they can afford to continue making horrible decisions with their manager. Arsenal cannot afford another mismanaged hire. We are on a precipice, if we make another bad decision, it could be curtains for us for the next ten years… and you know who won’t be around for the clean-up? Raul.

Be careful what you clamour for… this is a definitive moment for Arsenal, pray the club doesn’t fuck it up.

Good luck to Freddie Ljungberg.

356 Responses to “Emery sacked. A disaster hire, but who is accountable for it?”

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  1. Ashwin Gunner

    Pedro

    The hirings Raul made were not that bad. It was the manager who couldnt get the best out of them. Our squad is still very good. A visionary manager can change things around. I am now very keen to see how Freddie works. We should be looking at Arteta and Nagelsmann. Not sure how Freddie will react to that

  2. Ashwin Gunner

    Freddie looks like a guy who players respect. I just hope he turns out to be incredible and brings back the Beautiful football of Wenger years back

  3. Champagne charlie

    Pedro

    I’d typically agree about forward thinking visions and the like but the clubs you mention (to my knowledge) all have/had stable structures in place and the manager/coach was the last piece of the puzzle type stuff.

    I see Arsenal currently as being in a state of flux away from the football pitch, everyone seemingly trying to grasp at how the new structure operates optimally.

    In that sense I do wonder whether it’s wise for an Arteta to be added to that mix. Personally, and I’m a broken record on the matter at this point, I’d value bringing a manager in with some soft skills and genuine organisational pedigree.

    Wouldn’t be against Carlo, I personally tout Rafa to steady matters and lay a base for a Nagelsmann/Arteta hire a couple of years down the road, “better” squad, more finely tuned Arsenal machine as a whole etc. I think being properly pragmatic for a time is what’s sorry needed at a club so foreign to genuine defensive stability.

    I’m not advocating us rip up the ‘attractive Arsenal’ association, I’m saying let’s ground it so that we can birth a proper new-age of that. The club is chaotic, we need someone calm and competent imo.

  4. DivineSherlock

    I am willing to cut Raul some slack Pedro. Reason is because he didn’t let Emery sign Banega or Nzonzi or any of his favorites. He has signed Saliba , Pepe , Martinelli . All point towards future . Made Emery use Willock , Saka , Martinelli and other youth options. I agree it would be worrying of brings Nuno as the next manager. But everyone claimed he met Mourinho , didnt hire him though. The Nuno stories might as well be planted by that cunt of an agent of his.

  5. ARGooner

    Pedro..its chicken coop not coup….but still looks like we’ll be on the end of a coup from Raul. Hope Freddie mb can be our Rams coach equivalent. Show what can be done.

  6. Batistuta

    Rafa’s Napoli held Pool just last week while playing some very beautiful and strong football, hard to beat too, yea they may be floundering in the league but there’s nothing “outdated” about Carlo and his work

  7. Dissenter

    Gentlebris
    “ Elneny was never short of suitors, he rejected Leicester not so long ago. Mikki was on heavy money that a lot of clubs couldn’t match because of their limited budgets.”

    Leicester were never interested in Elneny. He’s not good enough for them
    Mykhi was subpar for United and for Arsenal

    All our midfield options are crap. Stop pretending that anyone is missing either of Mykhi or Elneny.

  8. Batistuta

    CC

    Hear hear on all your points. All that clamour for a young progressive manager to come in and run an experiment with a squad that has no runners from midfield, Barely any good enough CB, no goals from midfield….Not saying the squad is bad, just nor sure it’s ripe for an up and comer newbie. There are options that aren’t youngish but would give us more stability and find ways to make us harder to beat. When that defensive culture has been cultivated, then we can get whoever is flavour of the month then and let them have a go at it…

    Always maintained the guys who do our scouting and transfer business are just as important as the manager, can’t keep buying square peg type of players and hoping whoever is manager works miracles…

  9. Alexanderhenry

    Pedro

    You’re right.

    Looking at Chelsea this season, that’s the sort of thing we would have been happy with.

    They’ve gone with youth- partly due to their transfer ban, but they’ve done it wholeheartedly.

    Will they finish top four? Maybe not, but they’ll be in the mix for it and I guarantee Chelsea fans will be OK with that.

    That’s because they have a discernable, positive style of play and a batch of exciting young players.
    All fans like to see youth given a chance to flourish.

  10. Marko

    Charles makes a decent point. Might be wise to go with the experienced safe approach to bring stability and guile to a club sorely missing it. The only issue with that is it’s a short term hire and would fans back such a hire knowing full well that it’s basically a care taker role until a younger guy is ready to come in. In that case Allegri or Jesus is probably the best bet but who knows. One things for sure whoever it is has a tough job on their hands and that’s not even taking into account the polarizing idiotic fanbase that Arsenal has

  11. Bergkamp63

    Not sure why people are so frightened of someone like Arteta, guys like him are the future managers, Carlo & Rafa are yesterday’s men.

    Move onwards and upwards.

    Poch & Arteta would both be available now and both have something to prove.

    Roll the dice.

  12. Kaz

    So basically we are f****d then.

    Raul ain’t going nowhere and he has the big d**k.

    We gotta sell Auba then and reset for the summer. That’s super depressing.

  13. Ishola70

    Some decent points Pedro apart from the continuing fixation on super agents and this prophecy that intense possession based football in midfield is on the brink of a comeback because one coach has a liking for it. Is this a nod to remain as Arsene FC?

    A club you mentioned as being forward thinking and futuristic in their footballing outlook RB Leipzig in your post have nothing to do with possession football. In fact they are in all intents and purposes opposed to it. Rangnick is on record recently as saying that possession based football is “dead”.

  14. Bergkamp63

    We also have some decent players, a mixture of youth & experience, coached correctly and made to apply themselves, we could still salvage something this season.

  15. NJ Gunner

    Great post Pedro – and belated happy Thanksgiving. We Gooners certainly have something to give thanks for this morning.

    I certainly appreciate your sentiment and believe that someone like Arteta would be a good hire. But building for the future with a vision also allows for the hire of a steadying hand now. Allegri is a winner, so is Rafa. I suspect that either would work for a season or two. Someone like Howe or a Nuno is my big worry: they have PL experience but their teams readily give up goals and we now have to reconstitute a team from the back, not the front.

    As we mistakenly thought last season, at least let’s hope that we have got our Arsenal back.

  16. Ishola70

    Marko

    “bring stability”

    What are we actually stabilising here?

    Mediocrity? Chance for top four and that’s it? Overall sub-par squad?

    What’s to stabilise?

    We need a coach/manager to come in that is going to light fires not stabilise.

  17. into the red

    Nuno is Emery Mark Two. The same argument – a safe pair of hands – and similarly connected to Raul. I have no doubt he would do better than Emery, but he is still essentially a mid table act. There is also no evidence he would thrive with bigger and more temperamental players and a larger spotlight on him. It reeks of caution and lack of vision. The problem is further up the hierarchy, there is no confidence among fans or observers that Arsenal have the right executive personnel or structure. There is no evidence that they have. The hodge dodge squad will be a nightmare for any new manager to turn around.

  18. jwl

    Joke Friday –

    So, Johnny and his girl Sally are going to prom this Saturday. But, before they can go, Johnny needs to make sure they have a perfect night.

    So, Friday comes, and Johnny goes out to get his tuxedo. When he gets to the tux rental store, there’s this ridiculously long line. But he needs the tux, so Johnny waits. And he waits, and waits until finally, he has his tux.

    Next, he needs a limo. So he goes to the limousine rental shop and finds that there’s an even longer line there. But he needs the limo, so he waits. And he waits, and waits, and waits, until finally, he has the limo ordered.

    Johnny realizes he needs some new kicks, so he stops by a shoe store to get himself some nice shoes. When he goes to pay, he sees the longest line yet. But he needs the shoes, so he waits. And he waits, and waits, and waits, and waits, and waits, until finally, he’s got his new shoes.

    Saturday, Johnny’s ready to pick up his girl. He drives over to her house, picks her up, and they head to prom. At the dance, they’re having a great time, dancing, playing at the casino, hanging out with friends. Soon, though, Sally gets thirsty, and asks Johnny for a drink. Being the good guy he is, Johnny obliges.

    So Johnny walks over to the punch table, and what do you know… there’s no punch line.

  19. Jim Lahey

    “Does anyone know how Freddie might set us up ? formation ? tactics?”

    Two words for you.. sweeper keeper. He depolys at least 5 in his starting 11s.

  20. Receding Hairline

    “We need a coach/manager to come in that is going to light fires not stabilise.”

    Light fires? Nah

    This lot have tasted player power it’s not going away soon. Emery criticized them in private and they went crying to their agents and downed tools. Do it in public and God knows what happens

    We need to manage half of this squad until we can get rid of them.

  21. Left testicle

    Two words for you.. sweeper keeper. He depolys at least 5 in his starting 11s.
    ………..
    Five sweeper keepers?

  22. raptora

    From a skysports piece that is rough read, albeit a very good one.
    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11873289/unai-emery-was-out-of-sync-with-arsenal-and-didnt-give-fans-enough-to-believe-in

    “Emery said he needed more time, but the more he got the more difficult it became to identify what the intended identity actually was. Arsenal fans craved a clear direction. Emery could not provide one.”

    “Too often, his Arsenal sides were set up to nullify opponents rather than impose themselves on games in the way the fans – and, perhaps, the players – expected. His deployment of five defenders and two holding midfielders for the recent visit of crisis-hit Southampton summed it up.”

    “Arsenal only won three of his Premier League games in charge by a margin of more than two goals – and two of those were against relegated Fulham.”

    I’ve been talking about this. 51 EPL games in charge, 3 wins by more than 2 goals. 13 EPL games this season, 0 wins by more than 1 goal.

    “What’s most damning, however, is that for all Emery’s caution, for all his inherent conservatism as a tactician, his side remained so bewilderingly easy to play against.”

    “Emery inherited Arsenal in adverse circumstances. The rebuilding job after Wenger’s exit was always going to be an immensely challenging one. But the reality is that he leaves them in a worse position than he found them. Arsenal can only hope it does not take them as long as it is taking Manchester United to get back on the right track again.”

    The whole piece is great. Read it.

  23. Marko

    Yeah I dunno why Motta gets another reference he’s won one game so far at Genoa and it was his first game. Guarantee you that he’s out of a job inside a year.

    Mediocrity? Chance for top four and that’s it? Overall sub-par squad?

    I don’t classify any of that as stability so someone doing the opposite would be bringing stability. Stopping the rot. I dunno why you nitpick so much considering how much you perch on that fence of yours

  24. jwl

    Emery was sacrificial lamb, I am sorry it didn’t work out better for him. Arsenal are in transition phase and I don’t believe any manager would have done significantly better than Unai, comparing him to Moyes is ridiculous.

    Our next manager is going to face same issues as Emery, getting rid of senior players on big contracts while trying to win with inexperienced twenty year olds is not easy.

  25. Guns of Hackney

    Emery had bad energy from day one. As Peter says this hire came from outer space and not in a “woah, look at that fucking alien” kind of cool way but “what the fuck was that” kind of way. Bad ju ju.

    I have zero faith in Arsenal. None. Sure they sacked emery, but to be honest, after the loss to chelsea in the Europa, he should have gone. Now we won’t qualify for Europe again this year. Ho hum.

    Freddy fine for season but after that I’ve got a bad feeling we’re going to do another really really dumb move. I think the Arsenal as we know it is dead and I can honestly see us slipping down the league for a few seasons yet.

    No one cares. And no one apart from emery is losing his job. He was shit…but so are a hell of a lot of others at the club.

    We’re a gravy train. Edu, Raul, Vinny the chin, Josh, Stan…it’s a rogues gallery of incompetence.

  26. raptora

    Pierre: “It doesn’t bother me one iota if Pochettino has never won a trophy bit was coming to Arsenal, he is more than capable , and that’s all that matters.”

    At this dire point we need someone to bring us back to the top 4 in 2 consecutive years. Whoever does that will have done well. Afterwards if we don’t manage to tighten the difference between us and the title winners, then we could think about getting another manager.

    When I hear safe pair of hands that will almost guarantee us top 4 just by becoming our manager, first two names that pop up are Antonio Conte and Mauricio Pochettino. One of the two would be as risk free appointment as it gets.

    Sadly I don’t see either of them joining us so it’s a bummer. None of the other candidates can provoke the same calmness in me.

    And if it’s going to be a risky one, I’d try Stevie G. Too bad the fans would probably not embrace him.

  27. Un na naai

    Funnily my uncle (who’s a Celtic fan) said a few weeks ago he reckons ridgers or Gerrard will be next arsenal manager

    I said no way but it was the first time I’d heard anyone put Gerrard forward as a candidate

    Cc would love that wouldn’t ya you blue nose?

  28. Ishola70

    Receding Hairline

    “This lot have tasted player power it’s not going away soon. ”

    Ridiculous that this current lot of Arsenal players have “player power” considering they have won fuck all of real signifcance since being at the club.

    As somebody noted recently you can understand a group of players such as at Chelsea having player power because within that group they have achieved while being at the club i.e. they have won big titles.

    But yes player power is bigger than ever before even with those that shouldn’t merit it.

  29. raptora

    Pedro: “Those systems are opaque, they lack accountability, they move the club away from being a meritocracy, they almost always end in tears. No super-agent cares about your club, they only care about their fees.”
    “Can you show me how much money we have spent on agents fees over the past two years?”

    I bet I can find at least 20 posts in under half an hour where Pedro is advocating for dealing with super agents in the past. Now it’s the worst of practices and it’s the reason things are not going well in our club.

  30. Marko

    Honestly fuck Gerrard he’s likely to be beaten out by Neil Lennon for the second year in a row so why not target that hideous looking troll. No to an SPL manager. You want young inexperienced go for Xabi Alonso

  31. Pedro

    Raptora, there is dealing with super agents, then there is letting them run the club. Quite a difference there.

    Paying Mbappe’s people £8m to land a talent for the ages is a bit different to doing a deal with David Luiz at 32.

    Marko, let’s talk about nit-picking… Nagelsmann cannot speak English, 400 times, your go-to… total fantasy. He speaks excellent English.

  32. Receding Hairline

    Raptora this has little or nothing to do with super agents or anything else for that matter. The real issue here has been clear to all. If Raul appoints he who must not be named you will be astonished at some of the posts you will read on here in praise of Raul from Pedro

  33. AFC Legend

    “I said no way but it was the first time I’d heard anyone put Gerrard forward as a candidate”

    You would need to be certified mad and immediately restrained and placed into a straitjacket if you think Gerrard should be Arsenal Manager.

    This is our chance to do something properly, at last, we have to go big.

  34. Un na naai

    Marko

    Just to clarify I’m not advocating for Gerrard at all. Not one bit
    I’d crawl over a room full of naked Russian models without stopping for Rodgers though

  35. Receding Hairline

    “You would need to be certified mad and immediately restrained and placed into a straitjacket if you think Gerrard should be Arsenal Manager. This is our chance to do something properly, at last, we have to go big.”

    What’s your take on Arteta?

  36. raptora

    RH,
    You mean the Arsenal “legend”? No doubt we’ll be hearing how forward, progressive thinking Raul has become overnight. A good night’s sleep is not to be underestimated though so I’d be fine with that explanation.

    Truth be told, at this point, after Emery’s failed tenure, I’d take the risky signing. Not the one who must be named but whoever with some brain cells. I don’t want to be rude to Emery, but fk me, how did he even reach this level to manage teams like PSG and Arsenal? He was changing formations, personnel every single game and 18 months after his arrival, he still didn’t know our best formation or starting 11. It’s one thing to not be able to get wins, another thing to not have clue of your biggest chance to achieve a result.

  37. Pedro

    Raptora, you spent most of last season lambasting me for calling out Emery, now you’re teaming up with RH, a guy in recovery for ODing on Emery-juice over Arteta?

    Come to the light, Arteta is the future and if we hire him, it’s on Edu… because we all know the types Raul will be pushing.

  38. Un na naai

    Left

    I know!! It is though. We all know what it is. They normally wait five days before assigning the correct label

  39. Receding Hairline

    “Allegri was interviewed before Emery’s appointment 18 months ago but we are told he asked the club to tell him why he should become their new manager. At the time, the hierarchy thought he was arrogant, although those feelings have subsided”

    So much for having managers crawling on their knees to coach us

  40. Marko

    Hey Pedro yeah about that I never saw that video before (unsurprising as it seemed new) I was basing it on the fact that I couldn’t find him speaking English anywhere and during two separate press conferences while playing an English side in the Champions League he was asked questions in English and then proceeded to get an interpreter to relay the question and then answered in German. By all accounts it seemed he didn’t speak English. It’s a lesson though in future don’t just take something someone says on Twitter or on le grove as gospel do your own due diligence.

    While I have you Pete any chance of letting me know why you once again binned me so I can avoid it in future. Kind of getting tired of disagreeing with something you say and getting bipped for it.

  41. Un na naai

    PedroNovember 29, 2019 16:03:55
    Raptora, you spent most of last season lambasting me for calling out Emery, now you’re teaming up with RH, a guy in recovery for ODing on Emery-juice over Arteta?

    Yeah
    That’s because raptora is wrong and he’s not big enough to hold his hands up so he doubles down and defends his faulty position. It’s one of his themes

  42. Un na naai

    MarkoNovember 29, 2019 16:07:59
    Receding we keep hearing about Arteta and sauce well I’m starting my own new thing and it’s Xabi Alonso and gravitas

    Ok. Very un-marko

  43. Chika

    By at least being a better man manager, FL should extract more from the squad. Anyways, plans should be made in earnest for the next transfer window. Upamecano and a CDM would be great.

    Really looking forward to our next game and beyond.

  44. Receding Hairline

    “Pochettino was unwilling to rule himself out of the running for the lucrative job, but he claimed that taking over at Arsenal or Barcelona were at the very bottom of his list of priorities due to his affiliation with Tottenham and Espanyol.

    “I am never going to be manager of Barcelona or Arsenal,” he told reporters at his weekly press conference. “That is my decision – I prefer to work on my farm in Argentina than in some places.”

    Asked about Madrid, Pochettino added: “You never know in football. That is the problem. It is a very unstable situation. It is a lot of rumours about this, about that. Tomorrow, Daniel [Levy, Spurs’ chairman] could have a bad night and say, ‘Oh, I am going to sack Mauricio.’ And then I look stupid saying I am not going to work in one place or another or another.”

    Well unless Arsenal have become a farm he isn’t working here though

    Funny about the recovery jibe, i have no issues with Unai Emery getting sacked, it was deserved.

  45. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    I agree 100% with your viewpoint that there is
    a] a vacuum at the club at Board Room level with no football expertise at “non
    executive level”. Also most of the Board Members are 70-80 years old. We
    need to bring in expertise with football background. I mentioned today
    that someone like Liam Brady aged 63 could be an ideal solution.
    b]I am a little concerned about your viewpoint about Raul Sanhelli. If correct
    we could land up with the same outcome as with Emery. We need a more
    independent assessment about manager’s potential.

    I am going to be controversial on Le Grove, but if I was the Kroenke family I
    would have a quiet word with Arsene Wenger. Wenger is no longer involved
    with the club, but he is a highly intelligent man with an A-Z knowledge and
    DNA for the club.

    Whatever his own failings at the end of his career I am sure that he would provide neutral and good advice.

    On the player front as I have said many times the club does not in my view
    need to make a massive overhaul, but it does need to sort out the spine in both
    midfield and central defence. We need perhaps 3-4 new players.

    The good news is that they have made the decision to sack Emery at a time
    when realistically the club is not going to finish in top 4 and has time now to
    plan over next six months both recruitment of Head Coach and change in
    playing personnel.

  46. Un na naai

    Bergkamp63November 29, 2019 16:16:15
    How is Saliba doing these days BTW ?

    38 month injury
    Wenger’s fault
    Obviously

  47. Batistuta

    Tr7

    Eveey managerial hire is a 50-50 so unless you have a crystal ball, you can’t say for certain that any manager at all will be a success at Arsenal

  48. Un na naai

    jwlNovember 29, 2019 16:16:20
    We can’t hire Alonso or it will kill Denilson and Diaby.

    Wenger actually wanted him

  49. Spanishdave

    It’s hard to contemplate that our old board and shambolic directors will get it right this time.
    We need a proven winner not a project as Raul and co wouldn’t let a younger manager have the say in reorganising the club set up.
    We have far too many chiefs all pulling in different directions.

  50. raptora

    I’m not teaming up with anybody. I find your obsession with Arteta weird, on the basis of 0 games as manager of any team. But I just mentioned it. No ill feelings.

    Re Emery. I became one of the most vocal posters on Emery out around 3 months ago. And I had troubles convincing, although I kept trying, RH and Bamford that Emery is a dud. We all make mistakes in our judgement. Nobody is really vaccinated against it. It’s about seeing the obvious in a timely matter and not being too stubborn about it. I was big enough to do it.

    The Gazidis debacle though.

  51. InsideRight

    Left Testicle

    “Wenger came close to signing Saliba.”

    Wenger came close to signing everyone from Messi to Ronaldo to Dixie Dean.

  52. AFC Legend

    RH: “What’s your take on Arteta?”

    I can understand those who are pushing him forward, primarily because he is working with Pep and of course his connection with us. Personally he’s not for me.

    Any employer bases their judgment largely on the CV, do they have the necessary experience. He doesn’t. So he would be a risk. Okay, he’s helped Pep on teh training ground and that isn’t a bad thing but does that means he’s ready for the Arsenal hot seat?

    We’ve tried one gamble, Emery, I don’t think we need another the clubs in too much of a mess. Based on mitigating risk we need someone with a record of success, someone who has walked the talk . As Pedro has said, there’s a lot wrong at the club so we need an experienced manager in there to help shape it.

    I wish Arteta every success and who knows one day but he’s not ready to sort out this mess in my opinion.

  53. TR7

    Bati

    ‘Eveey managerial hire is a 50-50 so unless you have a crystal ball, you can’t say for certain that any manager at all will be a success at Arsenal’

    Of course I don’t have a crystal ball. All I am saying is we should go for a manager who has a vision for the club going forward. Stop gap managers is not something we should be looking for. We are not going to finish top 4 this season anyway. Besides, given the state we are in we need a radical manager, not an incremental manager who will do little more than tinkering things a bit here and there.

  54. Nelson

    DivineSherlock

    “I am willing to cut Raul some slack Pedro. Reason is because he didn’t let Emery sign Banega or Nzonzi or any of his favorites. He has signed Saliba , Pepe , Martinelli . All point towards future . Made Emery use Willock , Saka , Martinelli and other youth options.”

    I agree with you. Raul has hung Emery out to dry. He didn’t have the players he wanted. He was pressured to play the kids. Once the performance went south, he couldn’t handle the pressure. He became weak and timid. It all added up to the rapid collapse of the team.

    Top4 is already out of sight. We should take our time to evaluate the next coach very carefully. I am sure that Josh won’t jump into conclusion this time. Raul won’t be the only one who can decide the outcome. Edu should have a voice also if he wants to have a career at Arsenal.

    I hope that the fans don’t put too much pressure on Freddie Ljungberg. We don’t expect him to make the top4. He should rebuild an identity of the team, stabilize the midfield and defense and offer some attractive football. It would be a plus if we could go deep into the Europa Cup competition.

  55. Bergkamp63

    Left testicleNovember 29, 2019 16:25:20
    Confirmed as a terrorist incident. Probably one of Corbyns mates

    Yeah, probably wanted to give everyone in the country £1m each but wasn’t allowed.

  56. Chika

    AFC Legend

    “Any employer bases their judgment largely on the CV, do they have the necessary experience. He doesn’t. So he would be a risk. Okay, he’s helped Pep on teh training ground and that isn’t a bad thing but does that means he’s ready for the Arsenal hot seat?

    We’ve tried one gamble, Emery, I don’t think we need another the clubs in too much of a mess. Based on mitigating risk we need someone with a record of success, someone who has walked the talk . As Pedro has said, there’s a lot wrong at the club so we need an experienced manager in there to help shape it.”

    The two paragraphs above are quite conflicting. Emery wasn’t a gamble. He was a safe option, hired based on his CV.

  57. Marc

    I don’t wish Emery any ill now he’s gone but anyone saying he’s been treated poorly etc is way off the mark. Whethe Emery had the players he wanted or not the quality of the squad is better than what we’ve been seeing this season and constantly playing players out of position is all down to one man.

  58. Emiratesstroller

    I don’t always agree with Gary Neville, but on one point I do agree with him.

    The recruitment of Messrs Mustafi, Sokratis, Luiz and Xhaka has been appalling.
    As he suggests none of these players are improvable or coachable.

    Our defensive problems will continue even in absence of Emery.

  59. Leftsidesanch

    Poch can bide his time for a top job with a club that has a chance of winning things or he can stay in North London for comfort and manage Arsenal and have to deal with the delusional entitled fanbase.

    He’s not coming here.

  60. Receding Hairline

    “Sad day for everybody , especially because we let u down Boss,sorry !! Thank you and the amazing staff for everything !! You are a hard worker , passionate for football and a big example always , doesn’t matter the results ! Good luck for the future !
    @UnaiEmery_”

    David Luiz

    I guess we can take that story about Emery angering Luiz and drop it in the bin.

    The next few weeks will actually tell the tale of what actually happened at Arsenal, people see a downing of tools to get rid of the manager, i don’t .

  61. Leftsidesanch

    Barca have made several errors in last few years RR. I don’t personally see him going there but he could go to another top job.

  62. Receding Hairline

    “As if Barca would ever consider hiring the pompous, perennial loser.”

    They have hired worse

    The LOL is that the pompous dude believes he can turn down Barca because he ran around the pitch for Espanyol then coached them

  63. Gentlebris

    ‘Arsenal need to be bold, we need to look at what clubs like RB Leipzig, Gladbach, Rangers and Chelsea are doing. ‘

    So we have to spy on great clubs like Rangers and Gladbach to find our own direction? Great solution.

    Good post nonetheless.

  64. þorkell einarsson

    Carlo Angelotti is a class act and experienced
    Jao Moutiniho from Wolwes for the middle
    dump luiz and sokratis and if Auba wants to leave let him go and
    bring in Nketiah..

  65. Un na naai

    Words on a BlogNovember 29, 2019 16:41:47
    Un,You’re gonna have to cut out your anti-Swedish political stuff now that Freddie is on board…..

    Words
    I’ve nothing at all against the swedes
    Some of my best mates from travelling are swedes. Just using current affairs to be winding FL up.

  66. Un na naai

    Guns of HackneyNovember 29, 2019 16:54:20
    Has anyone called is ‘fallen giants’ yet? I bet they do. Or ‘sleeping giant’. Love that one.

    Why’s that so funny? We are.

  67. AFC Legend

    Chika.

    Fair comment. Emery was a gamble to me because I saw him as a cup manager – his league record is not a good one and his teams tend to concede a lot of goals. His only title was won at PSG but that’s not exactly heroic.

    Yes he did well in the Europa League with Seville but again this is a second-tier competition missing the top European sides.

    I admit I didn’t want him when he came but I was prepared to give him a chance. I haven’t changed my mind. We are a big club with problems at teh top and therefore, in my opinion, we need an experienced manager with a proven track record who will help shape the future of the club and be prepared to call out the hierarchy when they are wrong.

  68. Un na naai

    The LOL is that the pompous dude believes he can turn down Barca because he ran around the pitch for Espanyol then coached them

    And then took a decent spurs team to second in the toughest league in the world and got to the champions league final after getting past Barca, inter, Dortmund, city and Ajax

    Yeah
    Total dogshit
    Wake up man

  69. Rambo Ramsey

    He mostly could, at the end of the day its down to the person to choose where he wants to work.

    But you most certainly don’t hear anyone making loud proclamations about such, its embarrassing.

  70. Graham62

    Best of luck to Freddie.

    Let’s all get behind him.

    At least we will have someone who we can all understand for once.

    Listened to Matt Scott on TalkSport radio again this afternoon. Can’t believe he still thinks Emery is a good coach.

    What does he know anyway.

  71. Un na naai

    Guns

    But we are. We have a 60k stadium
    Money to burn (although they deny it)
    And are London’s biggest team.

    We are the epitome of the term sleeping giants

  72. Freddie Ljungberg

    Words

    “Un,

    You’re gonna have to cut out your anti-Swedish political stuff now that Freddie is on board…..”

    Yeah. That’s probably not going to happen, he’s too far gone to the dark side our Don is.

    Not sure why Raul gets so much shit on here, hiring a manager is never a sure bet, especially with a club in flux and a aging sub par squad, it didn’t work out, we move on, happens to all other clubs, doesn’t make Raul the anti-Christ.

    So the sacking took a bit too long, we don’t know the dynamics or reasoning behind the scenes for that.

    The Nuno stuff is only paper talk so far.

    Our transfer window was the best we have had in a loong time, apart from Luiz at the last minute because we ran out of options all the players bought has great potential for the future, none of them was an instant impact type player though.

    We sorted a top right winger and left back, one of the best young CBs around and what looks to be our successor at CF in Martinelli.

    Only 1 of those players has played for various reasons and he’s still finding his feet in the league during the chopping and changing of Emery, hopefully Pepe can kick on now.

    No matter who the new manager is that comes in we still have a lot of work to do on the squad, a lot less than 18 months ago though. We replaced a lot of not quite good enough PL experienced players with a bunch of untested youngsters and there’s a chance we’ll have to keep paying for that on the pitch a bit longer.

    We need another CB in addition to Saliba and probably a completely new midfield, Guen and Willock the only ones from the bunch playing now that should stay and neither should preferably be regular starters, at least not yet.

    Hopefully we have a permanent manager in place soon that can give his input on what we need in January, a Xhaka replacement is a must, and maybe a Torreira replacement as well if he still can’t adapt to life in England.

  73. Champagne charlie

    Tr7

    Care to outline the next 18 months at Arsenal as you’d sooner see it?

    Feel free to drop managerial names outside of Poch to lend some understanding.

  74. Batistuta

    Tr7

    That’s quite a claim that we can’t still make top4, it’s not like we are 20 points further back so no the season is not a write off and the whole long term thing while a great idea doesn’t at the moment feel like it’s what we need… As much as it’ll feel like a great idea, we need to also recognize the huge deficiencies on the playing side of the squad. Not exactly a position you’d want a newbie coming into, might work, might not work either way

  75. Receding Hairline

    ” got to the champions league final after getting past Barca, inter, Dortmund, city and Ajax”

    Barca finished top of that group

    Both them and Inter each won their respective home games

    Don’t know where you got the getting past Barca and Inter narrative

  76. Marc

    Freddie

    Agree re Sanllehi. Gazidis and Sven seem to have been white washed out of history for their part in the recruitment of Emery. As you say recruitment is never guaranteed to work out. How often do Chelsea change their manager? How many managers did Levy go through before lucking out on Poch? How many managers have Liverpool gone through in their desperation to win a PL title?

    Unfortunately for the site I fear that Pedro has become so absorbed by his Arteta love in that we’re never going to get another positive post again. Even if we appointed Arteta now anything that went wrong wouldn’t be his fault.

  77. Marc

    Bati

    I appreciate the squad needs to be improved but are you telling me that we don’t have enough quality to be doing a damn site better than we are?

  78. Guns of Hackney

    Top four!

    I’d say we will be lucky to finish top seven. There will be a boost no doubt and we will win a few games but then revert to type.

    Our players aren’t good enough. Or I should say, don’t have the stomach.

    If FL can galvanise this team…he’s a genius.

  79. Wasi

    Whatever’s done is done.
    Lets just thank Unai for his Hard Work and wish him luck for future. Its clear that he was a hard worker and really wanted to succeed but it just wasnt to be. Lets all get behind the team now. Also the Unai Emery mockery has to stop.
    #GoodLuckUnai

  80. Gentlebris

    ‘The LOL is that the pompous dude believes he can turn down Barca because he ran around the pitch for Espanyol then coached them’

    You do realize that Poch will eventually get the ideal job and show that he’s as good as Klopp and Pep, don’t you? And that all this bitching of yours will still be on record here?

  81. Marc

    Guns

    It shouldn’t be that difficult to get the team at least pulling in the same direction.

    Firstly drop Xhaka, second play players in their natural positions, thirdly get the midfield to at least offer some screening to the defence.

  82. Guns of Hackney

    Marc

    The team is a joke. We are totally unbalanced, players don’t want to be there, players are seeing out contracts, fans are disparate.

    As I said, there will be a OGS moment and we’ll have a cheeky run and then the wheels will fall off.

    The players got Emery sacked FFS. They are snakes. Disgusting.

    Sorry but this club stinks.

  83. Tom

    So now that Emery’s gone predictably we are seeing the Le grove forensic accounting of who said when Emery was a bad hire and a would be failure.

    Admittedly I was late to the Emery out movement ( sorry about that ) but I’d like to remind everyone here that some months ago I did predict that the next Arsenal manager would be a failure too.

    So when the “ I said on here long time before the poster x, y , z this was a bad hire” credits are given out in six months or so just remember I was the first.

    It’s very important for my street cred this won’t be overlooked.