Don Raul deals with the ‘noise’ of an empty stadium

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Well, the absolute worst outcome for Arsenal happened last night, we played our best striker in a dud game, against a terrible Frankfurt side, and managed to lose. Unai Emery stood on the sidelines like he was 40 feet from his front door watching the police remove his PC in plastic bags. He knows what’s coming, so do the fans.

The Emirates was painfully empty, even when you factor in the Frankfurt ticketing issues, it was embarrassing. No one wanted to be there. I had friends in chat groups desperately trying to give tickets away before the game to no avail. Last night felt like an end-of-days scenario for the manager… the players delivered a performance to match the feeling. Raul was right, the ‘noise’ of the fans did pass, because no one cared enough to show up.

Those that did dealt with familiar themes.

  • We tanked a lead, again
  • Emery insisted on starting Xhaka, again (makes error). Worse, he was all smiles and jokes with the Frankfurt players after the game. Get him out of the club immediately. He’s a disgrace.
  • Brings on Ozil to save game (told the press a month ago he wanted rid)
  • 2-1 down, last roll of the dice, he brings on Torreira (Pepe on the bench)

We could dive into the details of the match, but why bother? We know Emery is finished. Let’s talk about what is next instead, it’s far more urgent.

Raul is bad for Arsenal. He is going to try with all his might to move us down a path that suits his agenda. Everyone who matters at Arsenal knows this.

He’s not Arsenal material I’m afraid, so as supporters, we need to be very alert to what’s coming next, because if it suits him, it’s likely not good for us.

Emery was his idea. Sven left because of his ‘contacts’ approach. We made some very bad decisions this summer on his say so. Judge a man by his actions. Those actions in the cold light of day do not look good.

The next moves he’s hyping look even worse.

Ignore the nonsense coming from Wolves PR team. Nuno is on the Arsenal shortlist because of his relationship with Raul. Move past the bullshit notion that he wouldn’t take the job. We’re the biggest offer that’d ever go near him, there’s simply no chance he’d pass on it because he has ‘good vibes’ with his Wolverhampton squad.

Pay attention to Kike Marin reporting that Enrique is being seduced by a big club, it’s likely Arsenal because we’re in a contacts kind of world. We shouldn’t be giving him the time of day. No one in Europe touched him because he’s expensive and he has a poor reputation despite winning trophies at Barcelona. This is the same issue we had with Emery winning the league with PSG, you look at the wiki page and it excites you, read what the fans and press wrote at the time and it’s a different story. The idea that we’ll hire him after he fails at next years championships with Spain is quite frankly embarrassing. Being Raul’s mate should not be part of the equation, we should stop hiring managers other clubs don’t want.

‘Contacts’ recruitment isn’t good for Arsenal. It’s backroom deals. It’s jobs for the boys. It’s not how professional outfits operate because it removes merit from the equation. I know the ‘who you know’ approach happens in many walks of business, it’s gross regardless, it’s unprofessional, and it’s becoming rarer because it has a deeply negative impact on the culture of a business.

Sport should be the purest form of meritocracy, especially if you’re pushing the idea of an elite performance culture. Why would any player perform to the best of their ability if they had even the slightest suspicion that a teammate who was competing with them was getting preferential treatment because of their agent?

Now imagine the squad know the manager is there because they are pals with Jorge Mendes? Horrifying.

Our next appointment should be made against a strict set of guidelines, one of them should be that no one we bring in should be as deeply tangled in super-agent gunk as Nuno. He’s a no-go. We are too big to be beholden to the whims of a manager that will always have deeper loyalties to his agent than the club. Outside just the agent ties, why would you want to be making an appointment Everton fans would find bland?

Thankfully, most of you understand that this move is a terrible idea. Your response to the blog yesterday gave me hope (read if you didn’t). It showed that 99% of Gooners understand that values are hugely important, even if they have been used to defend mediocrity over the past 10 years. It also showed that together, we will go to war to make sure we’re not turned into a 90s Liverpool by grifters with no love for the club DNA.

Know this, there is a battle underway for the soul of Arsenal.

Take your eye off the ball for a minute and we’re fucked. We have to be vigilant when names are thrown our way. We have to use the power of Arsenal internet to call bullshit if we see something that looks off-key. So make Raul an agenda point with journalists. Tweet the bloggers when you see something that looks ghastly. Remember, the Arsenal agenda is set by the fans because you’re the people clicking adverts. The big publishers will follow your lead. Don’t let up. You have a part to play in making sure Arsenal are not dragged into the swamp.

Right, that’s me done. More tomorrow. x

 

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  1. InsideRight

    “Sky Sports reporting that Raul and Vinkat flew to the US earlier this week to consult the footballing oracle, Stan Kroenke. Not sure whether to laugh or cry.”

    I can see it now, Raul settling down in a comfortable chair near the fireplace… “Don Stan, thank you for agreeing to this meeting. I have some news that may displease you. The caporegime I brought into the family has failed us. I recommend that despite me solely saying we should let Emerino into the family, Don Edu should take him for a drive. I humbly apologise. For a £3million tribute next year to our interests on the East coast, I ask for your blessing to remove the man who has delivered such disrespectful results.”

    Don Stan replies… “Jeeez, did you see that play? Awesome D in the secondary there. Should have been a pick 6. Go Rams! Aww well. Is there a ball game on? I like seeing the Lakers these days. Huh? Did you say something? You, the guy by the fire. What’s your name again? Talk to Joshua. He is head of the family now. TOUCHDOWN!! YeeeHaaa!”

  2. Pierre

    Paulinho
    “Valentin – Hardly worst state decades though is it if only seven years ago we were two places lower in the league at the same stage and basically on the same points.”

    Wrong
    If you are going to discredit Wenger, at least get your facts right.

    2012/13…20 points after 13 games .
    .position 6th ..
    Goal difference +10

    2019/20…18 points after 13 games.
    Position 8th
    Goal difference-1

  3. Dissenter

    When I see all the chanting for Arteta, I’m left dismayed because it’s nit based on nothing but blind hope that he’s sniffed enough silver dust bouncing off Pep’s you know what.

    The Arsenal job called for an experienced manager in May 2018
    The Arsenal job still calls for an experienced manager in November 2019.
    This is not just a regular job. We have a pathetic squad in the middle of the field and in central defense. We won’t have that much resources to fix it until we sell the current crop of failed players who are still clogging up,our books because we pay them too much.
    It calls for a pragmatic choice, not a dreamers wishes.
    It’s going to be a bland choice who’s ready to commit 2-3 years if his life with fans who under-estimate the problem and players who are just running down their contracts.

  4. AFC Legend

    Paulinho “Valentin – Hardly worst state decades though is it if only seven years ago we were two places lower in the league at the same stage and basically on the same points”.

    I think it is the worse state for decades, this has been terrible to watch. If we had kept Emery in place I have no doubt we would have slid further down the table, he lost the players. Average teams are creating 20 plus shots against us on a regular basis, its been getting worse. Look at Southampton Saturday they should have rinsed us. This really has been boring, tactic less football. That’s why the next appointment is so important because fans have had enough.

  5. Spudnik

    The sackings shouldn’t just stop with Emery. Raul needs to go and we should bring in someone like David Dein into the club. At 76, I think he’s too old to take us forward in the long term.

    As for Espirito Santo, do we really want a manager who’s name translates as the Holy Spirit?

    Arteta? I don’t think he’d be given the time that is needed to bring his vision of playing to the first team. Fans and officials alike will want to see a bump in performances almost immediately.

    Allegri? A hard nosed Italian with proven expertise who can stand up to bullshit from Raul and any players who down tools. He could be just what the doctor would order.

    Pochettino? Probably too soon after his sacking and he’s probably still licking his wounds. Arsenal would be a rebound girlfriend for him.

  6. Cesc Appeal

    The rumours coming out about our player’s behaviour means we’re going to need someone who can instill some discipline into them.

    Whatever you think of Emery the performances many of our players have given coupled with the news of their open mockery is not acceptable. Especially because you know full well the type of spineless players in the side who would have been doing it.

    Whoever comes in needs to be told they will have the freedom to fully evaluate these players, discipline them and sell them.

  7. Dissenter

    I expect that Vinai and Raul have a managerial choice already.
    They can’t be going to Stan’s mansion to just discuss choices. That could have been done over the phone. Maybe the new manger travelled separately to join them in the states.
    I can’t imagine they are traveling that far just to chat about options.
    Just gazing at the Xhaka-branded crystal ball that Ishola gave me of course.

  8. Paulinho

    “2012/13…20 points after 13 games .
    .position 6th ..
    Goal difference +102019/20…18 points after 13 games.
    Position 8th
    Goal difference-1”

    Typical AKB.

    Reminiscing about the days we used to score a load of pointless goals at home to Norwich but barely create a chance when we needed to in competitive games.

  9. Paulinho

    AFC – We were often terrible to watch then as well. That season Wenger wheeled out Rosicky who rolled back the years saved our arse in Spring.

  10. Pierre

    Paulinho

    Lett me know how far you want to go in the 20 year wenger was at the club …

    It could get embarrassing for you….always better to get your facts right.

    After 13 games

    2011/13…23 points
    2013/14…31 points
    2014/15….20
    2015/16 ….26
    2016/17….28
    2017/18….25

    2019/20….18 EIGHTEEN POINTS

  11. Dissenter

    I shuddered when I read Unai na write that “now we have our Arsenal back” when Emery got fired.

    He thought he had his Arsenal the day before Emery was hired?
    Unai na na……………… that comment just shows how tenaciously you were tethered to Wenger’s you-know-what.

  12. Paulinho

    Pierre – That’s nice, but I’ve already addressed the falsehood that this is some new ground for us, and you’re actually proving my point because it shows you how fine the lines are, and how again, we’re not in that perilous a situation.

  13. Pierre

    CA
    “The rumours coming out about our player’s behaviour means we’re going to need someone who can instill some discipline into them.”

    Bollocks to players behaviour…

    Emery got what he deserved , because he deservedly lost the trust of the players 12 months ago by disrespecting Lacazette,
    Ramsey and Ozil .

    I said it then and I’ve continued to say it, he lost the team through bad man management that was supported by the hierarchy and it has cost him his job.

  14. Ishola70

    Dissenter

    I said when Emery was first appointed that I didn’t expect much from him.

    Said that his unbeaten run last season was being over-rated.

    Said that he wouldn’t be going on another unbeaten run this season like last season when the fixtures were announced.

    Was one of the few questioning this notion that Arsenal were saled for top four this season.

    So no I’m not sure we are on the same time line as far as Emery is concerned.

    What was done from time to time was the winding up of the Wenger lovers on here.

  15. Biggles

    I’ve been pretty open that I thought Emery did pretty decently in his first season – I was disappointed we blew it at the end of the season, but we still finished where I expected us to and I gave him the benefit of the doubt regarding legacy players in the squad. This summer the club had a good transfer window and got rid of some dead wood and brought in a coveted name. It wasn’t perfect since we still had Ozil, Xhaka and Elneny for instance, but it was progress. I felt that moving on from Wenger to a new structure was going to be a 2-3 year long process, but we sped that up over this summer.

    This season, my support for Emery has gone. We started poorly and got worse. There’s no real explanation for some odd picks in the team – Xhaka playing DM, Torreira as a 10 etc. The club pulled the trigger faster than I would have expected. I genuinely thought Emery would have been there until January at least.

    I have concerns over who we appoint next. United pulled the plug on Moyes and Van Gaal was a bit better, but not enough and then Mourinho had a semblance of success at first but then needed binning as well. It’s not easy to find the right coach for a team – even good coaches can struggle to get players to work for them, or take on board their ideas. Pep was 3rd in his first season and that was with a squad that I think is better than what we have just now.

    The one thing that I find heartening is that whilst I have concerns about Raul and his ways of doing things, he’s at least *doing* things. Gazidis should have pulled the plug on Wenger long before he did, but he just was happy to keep the status quo and kick the problems down the road a bit more. Emery isn’t working, he got fired. Yes, what happens next is incredibly important, but at least we didn’t keep repeating the failed experiments.

  16. Marko

    I’m not really sure that I’d go along with the new manager dictating the transfer policy. It’s not perfect and obviously needs to be better in the future but signing Pepe, Saliba and Martinelli is a good sign for me targeting/being linked to Upamecano, Szobolai and Ranier Jesus is again another example of a progress on that side of things. Obviously though you want a new manager to have some say but at the same time Edu is the TD and he’ll want to make his mark and target his own guys and I’d back that.

  17. Ishola70

    Dream10
    “So according to Gazzetta, Allegri has turned down the offer. Wants to continue his sabbatical.”

    What a surprise.

    Not.

  18. Samesong

    I have a question for you guys will you get in Freddie’s back if he loses again at Norwich or do you think we will see a new energy now?

  19. Ishola70

    Receding

    I am not even saying that Nuno is a good idea.

    What is being said that for someone that backed such a disaster appointment like you did you are making an awful lot of noise and scare mongering.

    I’m not going to judge any appointment Arsenal make until I see what he does in the summer transfer market.

  20. Receding Hairline

    “I’m not going to judge any appointment Arsenal make until I see what he does in the summer transfer market.”

    Good on you

    Let others express their opinions then and wait for the new appointment and transfer window before we hear from you

    In other words shut up

  21. salparadisenyc

    Pleased with that move, although should of happened sooner if were honest. The writing was on the wall ages ago that Unai wasn’t fit for service where the Arsenal are concerned, well into last season.

    In terms replacements with state this club is in Pochettino makes most sense to me, followed by Allegri. The idea of young visionary is worth the risk with the season we have left, Arteta would definitely add some fun to this space as well.

    Can’t imagine these Nuno rumors are solid, seems an underwhelming way to go with whose out there.

  22. Ishola70

    Samesong
    “I have a question for you guys will you get in Freddie’s back if he loses again at Norwich or do you think we will see a new energy now?”

    Freddie out signs are already being made up if he doesn’t win at Norwich.

    tbf fans shouldn’t be on him if he doesn’t beat Norwich. Arsenal have been shit away from home in the EPL for going over two years.

    The home match against Brighton is more along the thinking that he should be winning that one.

  23. Pierre

    If its freddie , he needs to ignore outside influences when selecting his team .

    Pick Mustafi, pick Xhaka , pick kolasinac if he feels they are the best we have and wants experience.

    He may take players like Guendouzi, sokratis, saka out of the firing line .

    He may want the energy ang youthfulness of Martinelli and willock.

    He may want players who will put their neck on the line and leave out Aubameyang and Ozil .

    Will be interesting to see what road he takes .

  24. China1

    It would be madness if the fans don’t rally behind Freddie for his caretaker role

    He’s not the long term manager. He’s basically helping out and will be giving his very all entirely aware of what t means and how precious this opportunity is for him

    If he does poorly he will simply be replaced, in all likelihood in a few short weeks. If he does well he will still probably be replaced.

    Whether he does well or not, context says he deserves total backing until the long term role is resolved

    Everyone deserves a bit of extra slack now as there will be changes on and off the pitch and there will be adjustments. And if he is still in charge a month from now and if we still have players not playing their best for him then the fans should vent their frustration at the players involved rather than Freddie

    It’s like when your parents babysit your kid and they do things a bit differently. As long as it’s nothing remarkable, you should keep your mouth shut and just say thanks for the help they gave rather than shit on them for not handling the kids as well as you would’ve

  25. Olumide

    Contrary to comments here, David Ornstein reports that Ljungberg has the UEFA Pro license which means he could stay for more than the 12 weeks mentioned.

  26. 71Guns

    “I reckon many of you should be thanking Mesut Ozil as he was the architect in Emery’s downfall.” [etc]
    That’s one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever read on here – and that’s saying something! Would Ozil leaving have stopped the results going down the pan? Of course not. The outcome would have been exactly the same. I have no problem with Ozil staying, but come on Pierre – I mean, REALLY?!?

  27. Ishola70

    Biggles

    “This summer the club had a good transfer window ”

    Not really.

    It was very Wengerish in it’s execution.

    That being a goalscoring forward was brought into a team that already had goals in it and the weak midfield was ignored and a dud defensive signing in David Luiz was brought in.

    So overall not particularly good no.

  28. InsideRight

    Samesong

    “I have a question for you guys will you get in Freddie’s back if he loses again at Norwich or do you think we will see a new energy now?”

    I don’t think the fans will get on his back. They know he is only a placeholder. They know he has been dumped in at the deep end as assistant doing an interim job. They know he isn’t getting £6m a year to develop an identity for the team and the style of play.

    I reckon Freddie and the boys will simply get a lot of encouragement because the fans know someone else will be coming in at some point. Freddie knows how things can be done from playing at a time when we played proper football. If he has the nous to bring in someone who understands defending, like Keown for example, and gets a couple of other specialists to help him out, I think he will arrest the slide and we will see an improvement in the performances and results.

  29. AFC Legend

    Pierre: “I said it then and I’ve continued to say it, he lost the team through bad man management that was supported by the hierarchy and it has cost him his job”

    This.

    There was no team structure it was obvious players didn’t have a clue what they were supposed to be doing. Especially off the ball. Thsi is a different game to the Spanish one, he failed to adapt.

  30. Marko

    Given the current plight of the club, make up of the squad, not wanting to target anyone Spanish because they might have ties to Raul, not wanting to target anyone Portuguese because they might have ties to Mendes, being fair don’t target anyone Italian because they might have ties to Raoila and no one from Israel because of ties to Zihavi and not to mention no one with broken English because communication is important.

    Options very limited. Like I said earlier a very rude awakening in store for Arsenal fans. Don’t be surprised if we’re turned down left right and center and can’t do any better than Freddie Ljungberg

  31. Kay

    I want Allegri.
    It will get the fear factor back on track.

    Neither Arteta nor Freddie can bring that fear factor.

    I think post 2012, most of the teams stopped fearing us.

  32. Pierre

    71guns
    I believe the Ozil situation played a huge part in his downfall.

    Emery mistakenly thought Ozil would walk.

    I believe Ozil is liked and respected by his team mates and I’m sure they were confused/ annoyed/ irritated /upset that the manager was treating a player in this manner.

    By not even putting him in the Europa squad this season and saying other players were more deserving was ridiculous.

    I believe he lost all credibility from the players from that moment onwards .

    One would imagine players like Saka , willock and nelson must have felt embarrassed by those comments and the experienced players like Aubameyang and Lacazette must have been laughing behind his back at the stupidity of those remarks.

  33. Receding Hairline

    “One would imagine players like Saka , willock and nelson must have felt embarrassed by those comments and the experienced players like Aubameyang and Lacazette must have been laughing behind his back at the stupidity of those remarks.”

    The only one imagining that is YOU sir

  34. Sekard

    Well said Marko.No manager of calibre would touch Arsenal with a barge pole with the idiots we’ve got running this Football club.You’re going to see a managers merry go round in the summer involving the big clubs.Why come to Arsenal?

  35. Nelson

    Comments on Mikel Arteta:

    Fabian Delph: ‘Mikel Arteta has been so pivotal for me. One of the reasons I have stayed at the club is because he saw the qualities in me and he knew I was available to do the role they wanted me to do.’
    Leroy Sane: ‘He’s a lovely guy and a great coach. And he’s always right. He’ll watch me at training and then afterwards he’ll tell me what he thinks.’
    Pep Guardiola: ‘He is already an incredible manager and he’ll have incredible success in his future. I’m pretty sure [he could succeed me]. Sooner or later it’s going to happen.’
    Raheem Sterling, Bernardo Silva and Riyad Mahrez have all credited Arteta with having a major influence on their improvements at City, his work on body positioning, tactical intelligence and attacking wing play critical to City’s success.

    Maybe he can get Pepe going.

  36. Receding Hairline

    Just read on Twitter Ljunberg asking the players to “play for the shirt”

    As a part of the coaching staff wasn’t he brought in to tell them just this even as number 2?

    I have a feeling whoever Arsenal appoint as coach will not want him around

  37. Marko

    Rather give Ljundberg a chance than appoint Nuno.

    Further evidence of the problem with Arsenal fans. I personally have no idea why they’d want an assistant with little to no experience over a manager with an actual positive record and substance to his career. Look if we’re looking at going the novice and inexperienced route then why not Xabi Alonso?

  38. TheBayingMob

    “ So ballague says Newcastle and Lyon were in for arteta at one point …”

    This ignores the fact the Ballague is a barefaced lying fat cunt

  39. Pierre

    Receding
    “As a part of the coaching staff wasn’t he brought in to tell them just this even as number 2?I have a feeling whoever Arsenal appoint as coach will not want him around”

    You need to move on , Emery has left the building , time to look ahead instead of looking for Ways to discredit freddie.

    Let it go as you are embarrassing yourself.

  40. 71Guns

    Pierre: “I believe the Ozil situation played a huge part in his downfall.”

    Yep, I can see it contributed to it for sure, just not convinced that it was pivotal. Fair enough though mate.

  41. raptora

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKii79uWkAALlXI.jpg:large Ornstein’s info. Couple of interesting stuff. Felt bad for Emery but he’ll get a decent compensation. In addition to not being of the required quality, he didn’t seem to have enough fight in himself. He couldn’t make players fight for him long term no matter qualified for the job or not. Decent bloke but we need someone much smarter and progressive. Not someone who is more interested in how the other team plays than his own team. 13 games in the EPL and things were getting worse by the hour. Under Wenger you knew he’d always bounce back and the degrading was extremely slow although steady. Under Emery literally nothing he tried would work. Bad decision after bad decision. And he got the axe. Shameful display from a likeable guy.

    We got limited options now. I hope they take their time. Even if it woud mean a failed year, it’s already looking that way. Keep Freddie or someone as interim,then attack your first choice targets in the Summer.

  42. Marko

    Raul Sanllehi had a deal lined-up for Jose Mourinho to join Arsenal, who was keen on the job. Stan Kroenke’s reply to that suggestion was giving Emery a bit more time @MailSport

    Raul not to blame for the delay? Surely not

  43. Receding Hairline

    “You need to move on , Emery has left the building , time to look ahead instead of looking for Ways to discredit freddie. Let it go as you are embarrassing yourself.”

    Says the guy celebrating Ozil’s victory

  44. 71Guns

    Thanks for posting the Ornstein link, Raptora. I agree the management need to take their time – if Freddie coaches to the end of the season, so be it – who knows how that will pan out? As it is, our season has already gone, as far as the Prem is concerned…

  45. Receding Hairline

    “Raul Sanllehi had a deal lined-up for Jose Mourinho to join Arsenal, who was keen on the job. Stan Kroenke’s reply to that suggestion was giving Emery a bit more time @MailSport”

    Thank God that did not go through

    I fear Raul will not be very inventive in this search for coach. He was not thorough with the Emery appointment and Jose was just a lazy choice if really he picked him.

  46. Biggles

    @Ishola

    Didn’t say it was a perfect window, but I stand by it being a good window. The wage bill came down a lot, we got rid of Koscielny and Cech, we forced a passenger in Elneny out on loan, we brought in Tierney (who I think will be a great signing once fully up to speed), Martinelli (looks a bargain) as well as Pepe (big statement signing). We never lost Auba, Laca or Leno.

    That’s kind of the problem. The squad is better than it was, but results aren’t.

  47. DigitalBob

    Thanks Raporta, very interesting read. Glad to here Freddie is fully qualified for the role at least.

    We can still salvage this season(in footballing terms, not sure about top 4) and at least head into the next one with some positivity.

  48. Ishola70

    Biggles

    The big problems in the side were not addressed though these being midfield and defence and the defence has actually got worse with the addition of Luiz who has been a poor signing.

    Tierney looks a good signing but that looks most likely from an offensive viewpoint.

  49. AFC Legend

    CA “Whatever you think of Emery the performances many of our players have given coupled with the news of their open mockery is not acceptable. Especially because you know full well the type of spineless players in the side who would have been doing it.”

    This is a tad naive.

    It seems Arsenal players have had to put up with a lot of abuse but why should they when it’s the Managers fault? I’m sure that’s part of what has been going on.

    Throwing 11 players onto a pitch and expecting them to win without any coaching (either individually or in team situations) is going to fail, however good they are. That’s what Emery did. There were also some pretty weird things that went on which one day we will find a bit more about. Imagine you are a player with a World Cup Winning no. 10 in your squad (whatever you think of Ozil) who is replaced in his position by a DM, Torreira. Auba and Laca must have laughed. Just last night, Martinelli was probably our best player yet he gets subbed off and replaced by Ozil who goes out on the wing when we need a goal. Some of this stuff you wouldn’t see a 12 year old kid doing on FIFA 20.

    It was all a bit weird. I’m not surprised the players mocked him.

  50. Marko

    I fear Raul will not be very inventive in this search for coach. He was not thorough with the Emery appointment and Jose was just a lazy choice if really he picked him.

    Depends on how you look at things. Yeah if he was picking Mourinho as a first choice then it’s not good but if it was Mourinho because no one else was available or wanted the job or because he was the best of him, Arteta, Marcelino and NES for example then it’s kind of understandable.

  51. TR7

    Emery, Mourinho and Nuno – Got to say Raul does go for easy choices. I want the club to be more thorough in their search for a new manager.

  52. Pierre

    Marko
    “Özil hasn’t been relevant as a footballer for some time and Pierre is telling people to move on…”

    Must be difficult to be relevant playing under a clueless manager who doesn’t rate you .

    If he continues to not be relevant under a different manager , then get rid .

  53. Olumide

    Personally, I wouldn’t touch Pochettino. He’s just the popular choice. My preferences (in no particular order) would be Nagelsmann, Ten Haag, or Steven Gerrard.

  54. Receding Hairline

    ” I want the club to be more thorough in their search for a new manager.”

    Agreed

    Nothing thorough about appointing the man just sacked across the road ten days ago

    “Must be difficult to be relevant playing under a clueless manager who doesn’t rate you .”

    He has been irrelevant for a few years now, you are not fooling anyone

  55. Dream10

    “Whatever you think of Emery the performances many of our players have given coupled with the news of their open mockery is not acceptable. Especially because you know full well the type of spineless players in the side who would have been doing it.”

    You want to get rid of Aubameyang, Lacazette and Guendouzi?

  56. Granty gooner

    The previous Arsenal board and Wenger have blood on their hands. Don’t tell me they didn’t know what an Arsenal under KSE would be like! They shit on the club and us fans and took the ready’s. It’s going to get worse and the only way to get rid of these “gold-diggers” would be empty stadiums and relegation. As soon as the returns are outside the financial forecasts they’ll be off. I agree 100% with not touching anybody or anything associated with Mendes, our current board set-up is toxic enough.

  57. Marko

    If he continues to not be relevant under a different manager , then get rid .

    So how many more are we thinking? Surely not 4 or 5? Because old frog eyes has been steadily declining under Wenger, Low and now Emery. Pathetic commentary if you think it’s a case of the last few months under Emery. Last season he had 35 games and 2,400 minutes on the season and he managed 3 assists. Don’t see him improving under any manager in world football considering his age/attitude/ability as a footballer.

  58. Ishola70

    Gunnerblog the Geek is stating that Emery upset Ozil, Xhaka and David Luiz.

    Again come on we can all say that Emery wasn’t good enough but let’s not throw in shit like that.

    All three of those players are a hindrance Emery or not.

  59. Useroz

    Not hindsight but Raul didn’t and still doesn’t give the impression of competence….

    Since day 2 , got the feeling he’s just milking a desperate Arsenal at the time. Still desperate 18 mo down the track. How unfortunate. ..

  60. Spanishdave

    Arteta’s job assisting Pepe is not the same as being totally responsible for the job of managing the squad, getting rid of the dross and bringing in new players.
    Bringing the club back to life is a huge job, where fan pressure to succeed straight away is intense.
    The season is shot so rather than panic let Freddie have a go at calming the squad down and injecting some pride back into the team.
    There are no standout available managers out there.

  61. Tippitappi

    As someone said yesterday it’s those who allowed that bastard near our club in the first place who should take the can Dean Fizman lady gaga etc

  62. Gentlebris

    ‘How come no one was queuing up to buy either of them from our hands? We had to kick them out on money losing loan deals- we still pay the balance of their wages.’

    You must be joking, Dissenter, as I don’t believe anybody can be this stupid.

    Elneny was never short of suitors, he rejected Leicester not so long ago. Mikki was on heavy money that a lot of clubs couldn’t match because of their limited budgets.

    Are you saying Ceballos turned out better than Mikki? Are you saying Guen could hold a defense in the middle like Elneny?

    Seriously dude, you are a waste of time.

  63. InsideRight

    There won’t be a queue of sides lining up to secure Emery’s services. I doubt a single team of any note will be looking at him or his coaching team thinking “There’s our opportunity”. Pochettino on the other hand I am sure is currently on the minds of a number of club decision makers around Europe.

    No matter what Receding says, football people can see what Pochettino did in turning around Southampton and dramatically improving Spuds, making them more competitive than they have been since the 1960s.

    Allegri didn’t float my boat and I’m glad he’s reportedly rejected an approach. There’s not a pile of managers available who have shown they can improve a side through coaching. Pochettino has shown he can do that. He has to be worth a chat.

  64. Receding Hairline

    ” There’s not a pile of managers available who have shown they can improve a side through coaching. ”

    What do other football managers do if not coach? Buy players?

    Isn’t that the reason you are citing for Spurs awful regression in the league since January 2019, that Pochettino was not backed by levy to buy players?

    “No matter what Receding says, football people can see what Pochettino did in turning around Southampton and dramatically improving Spuds, making them more competitive than they have been since the 1960s.”

    in 2009-2010 Redknapp was named manager of the year after leading Spurs to a fourth placed finish, He also led them to the Champions league quarter finals with arguably a lesser squad of players. Not quite the 60’s

    He also finished fourth again with 40 year old Friedel as goal keeper.

  65. Distant legrover

    We went from a coach who never looks at the opposition but focus on himself to a coach who never focus on himself but stalks the shit out of the opposition.

    Wonder what type of extreme coach Freddie gonna be.

  66. InsideRight

    Hahahaha. You think Harry’s side is even remotely as good as the one Pochettino put together? 4th isn’t 2nd, or 3rd twice. A quarter final isn’t a final.

    Of course other managers buy players. Most organise their teams, but go ahead and list managers who have demonstrated they can take existing players and youngsters and make them better.

  67. Olumide

    InsideRight
    Football people have noticed Pochettino. But I can’t see them uprooting trees to get him. Jose Mourinho just got to Tottenham and as bad as his last job was, people are now expecting him to win trophies at Spurs.
    You can’t have that expectation with Poch. What’s the point of improving the team if we don’t win trophies?

  68. Un na naai

    Shit man
    My younger brother and my cousins 17 year old boy were just at London Bridge when the attack occurred
    In their van. Said it was crazy
    People running every where cars numbing into each tiger to get away

  69. Gentlebris

    Allegri has not rejected anything and l’m sure the job has not been concretely offered to anyone, they have just appointed a caretaker, absolutely no need to rush into another mistake.

  70. Distant legrover

    Emery, Mourinho, Nuno all Latin/portuguese type managers. This is going to seem controversial but Arsenal football club seem like a club for a non Latin type manager because their style is different from Arsenal’s. Unless the manager’s name is Pep.

    A Klopp, Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Marco Rose types. Those are more like it.

    I also don’t think Raul is a good fit. Too Spanish for an English club.

  71. Un na naai

    Just people going about their day and bang, stabbed
    Lucky they have those bollards or it could have been much much worse
    He said a bus was involved somehow and all thes cop cars just flew on as he was in traffic and starts shouting at everyone to stop
    Then people start running every where and he hears BANG BANG and the it was just pandemonium
    He says all the cars just started reversing into each other to get away
    Nobody knew if he had a gun or what but it turns out he just had a knife

    Mental

  72. Pierre

    Olumide
    “You can’t have that expectation with Poch. What’s the point of improving the team if we don’t win trophies?”

    I think there is a difference between not won a trophy and will never win a trophy.

    Pochettino is obviously more than capable of winning trophies as he has been there or thereabouts in the league and in some cup competitions.
    Sometimes you just need that bit of fortune to go your way .

    Wenger didn’t win a trophy for 8 or so years and when he broke his duck , won 3 in 4 years..that’s how it goes sometimes.

    It doesn’t bother me one iota if Pochettino has never won a trophy bit was coming to Arsenal, he is more than capable , and that’s all that matters.

  73. raptora

    From a skysports piece that is rough read, albeit a very good one.
    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11873289/unai-emery-was-out-of-sync-with-arsenal-and-didnt-give-fans-enough-to-believe-in

    “Emery said he needed more time, but the more he got the more difficult it became to identify what the intended identity actually was. Arsenal fans craved a clear direction. Emery could not provide one.”

    “Too often, his Arsenal sides were set up to nullify opponents rather than impose themselves on games in the way the fans – and, perhaps, the players – expected. His deployment of five defenders and two holding midfielders for the recent visit of crisis-hit Southampton summed it up.”

    “Arsenal only won three of his Premier League games in charge by a margin of more than two goals – and two of those were against relegated Fulham.”

    I’ve been talking about this. 51 EPL games in charge, 3 wins by more than 2 goals. 13 EPL games this season, 0 wins by more than 1 goal.

    “What’s most damning, however, is that for all Emery’s caution, for all his inherent conservatism as a tactician, his side remained so bewilderingly easy to play against.”

    “Emery inherited Arsenal in adverse circumstances. The rebuilding job after Wenger’s exit was always going to be an immensely challenging one. But the reality is that he leaves them in a worse position than he found them. Arsenal can only hope it does not take them as long as it is taking Manchester United to get back on the right track again.”

    The whole piece is great. Read it.

  74. raptora

    “It doesn’t bother me one iota if Pochettino has never won a trophy bit was coming to Arsenal, he is more than capable , and that’s all that matters.”

    At this dire point we need someone to bring us back to the top 4 in 2 consecutive years. Whoever does that will have done well. Afterwards if we don’t manage to tighten the difference between us and the title winners, then we could think about getting another manager.

    When I hear safe pair of hands that will almost guarantee us top 4 just by becoming our manager, first two names that pop up are Antonio Conte and Mauricio Pochettino. One of the two would be as risk free appointment as it gets.

    Sadly I don’t see either of them joining us so it’s a bummer. None of the other candidates can provoke the same calmness in me.

    And if it’s going to be a risky one, I’d try Stevie G. Too bad the fans would probably not embrace him.

  75. Chika

    By at least being a better man manager, FL would extract more from the squad. Anyways, plans should be made in earnest for the next transfer window. Upamecano and a CDM would be great.

    Really looking forward to our next game and beyond.

  76. RodneyKing

    Freddie would have to work closely with the players to have any chance of success. Nothing wrong with getting input from them regarding formation, tactics and players’ preferred positions.

    That will undoubtedly make for a happier and more motivated squad.

  77. GuNZ

    What’s going on? Got fooled into thinking I’d beaten Bankz and DM and co into first place for that trophy thing.