The Nuno stories went from a light belly rumble to an out and out unexpected ripper of a fart.
Sami Mokbel, a man with fine information, reckons he’s on our list should the club move Emery on. This story was backed by a number of others.
I am hoping the story is a touch like the Enrique and Mourinho rumours. It’s good for a manager like Nuno to be linked with the big jobs even if the story is a nonsense, it’s basically a way of alerting the rest of Europe that he’s all ears if anyone wants to send an offer his way next summer.
My hope is Jorge Mendes is trying to push for his client to find a new gig after 800 days at Wolves.
The Portuguese has done a solid job at Wolves. He’s taken them to the Premier League and made them very difficult to beat. His record against the top 6 has been better than Wenger’s and Unai’s combined, which admittedly isn’t a stretch achievement, but it’s still something.
He has sauce on the touchline, no doubt. If that Sky Sports presenter made a joke about his beard, he’d probably have biten a chunk out of his neck and murdered his kids. No doubt his English is better than Unai’s and the fact he’s built a solid team capable of being an underdog is also very commendable.
I’m just not sure that’s the sort of hire that moves you forward longterm. Compare Nuno’s resume to Unai’s and our guy trounces him. Emery had a smaller budget with Sevilla, La Liga’s version of Wolves, and he won 3 Europa League finals. They both managed Valencia, Nuno finished 4th, Unai finished 3rd three times. The only thing Nuno has on Emery is the language and one very good season in the Premier League.
Also worth remembering, the tiny little club in Wolves is run by one if the murkiest super agents in the game. The man that sold Bebe to Man United bankrolls the club with big cash and pulls in favours only a man of his pedigree could. Wolves has spent £200m in the past two seasons. £20m more than us. That doesn’t diminish the job, but it’s quite an advantage to be able to blow money like that. He’s currently 1 point ahead of Arsenal’s worst run in 38 years.
You also can’t ignore the past. Last time he was given a run at a big club, it was Porto, he struggled to break down teams that played a deep block and he resorted to longball football the fans didn’t like. He didn’t last. I’m sure he can adapt to Arsenal, he’s always flexed the sort of football he plays, but do we really want to play underdog football? If you’re going to go for that sort of manager, why not opt for one with Champions League experience like Allegri or Mourinho? Or, if you’re punting for a Premier League manager at a smaller club, go all out for Brendan Rodgers.
The notion that he’s Poch before he went to Spurs is a struggle for me… Poch didn’t blow £200m net on players at Southampton, nor at Spurs. Different gravy I’m afraid.
The deeper concern would be the signifier that Arsenal are a club controlled by super agents… and all the connotations that go with that sort of territory. We’ve seen first hand what Kia Joorabchian can bring you for a combined outlay of £40m (David Luiz). Can we honestly believe that all these mega fees that are passed around are in the best interests of moving Arsenal forward? It’ll start to look like pigs at a trough.
Raul’s reputation will sour very quickly if we continue to lack creativity and rigor with our approach. Sven Mislintat might not have been the right person for Arsenal, but it’s hard to argue that his vision for how the game should operate was incorrect. The contacts approach lacks transparency and it outsources your creativity. Hoping for other people to be honest about people they’re making fees off of is a fools game.
Here’s hoping the solution to the Emery problem isn’t to give it to a guy with a less impressive resume and better beard. That said, I do like his beard, it’s very cool.
Listen to my pod, please.
DM
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Screw it
Tr4phy
Emery still in charge? Damn
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What was your reaction when Emery was first appointed?
Were you positive about the appointment?
What is the “right” appointment at this time Receding?
Higher than Arsenal in the table :/
Quote.
“His English is better than Unai.”
Quote.
“ My Parrot is more literate than Unai.”
Another great summing up.
I’m not sure what this “underdog” football term means that keeps being bandied about.
What’s the opposite? “Champion” football?
As Arsenal haven’t been “champions” of anything really significant for so long perhaps this is not the fit either.
Nuno will probably be a bad idea but not because of the man himself.
If he was given free rein at Arsenal and was left to do what he wants in regards bringing in players to suit him then it could prove a good appointment.
But the likelihood is that the club try to bend Nuno in what they want from him in regards to what Arsenal are meant to be about and then it will become messy and end in failure again.
Jorge Jesus to Everton …
Weren’t half of our signings under Sven ex Dortmund or still Dortmund?
Seems like Sven was also juicing out on those phone contacts…
China1,
Sven juicing his Dortmund contacts?
No, no, no. Everything he did was strictly research and date driven.
Date – data
Emery is not leaving before the end of the season.
Arsenal won’t pay 4m quid to Emey and some more to prise away a serving manager. That’s not in their DNA
They will wait till the end of the season; and if things have not changed, they will not renew his contract. They would then look for an out-of-job coach for the club.
You read it here first!!
The Nuno stories went from a light belly rumble to an out and out unexpected ripper of a fart.”
You’ve been very gassy with your commentary this week. That’s the second time in a few days you’ve made a similar analogy.
No matter who we hire at this moment, our fanbase will be divided and then as soon as things turn a bit awry, the guy at the helm will have to face the music.
“What was your reaction when Emery was first appointed?” Surprised but it was an okay appointment in my view, not one i would have advised mind you due to the PSG baggage, felt he needed a lower pressure job after that but understood why he got the job short term. “Were you positive about the appointment?” The first question you asked covered this “What is the “right” appointment at this time Receding?” The right appointment at this time should unite the fan base. I know you are getting all giddy envisaging a Portuguese revolution hence the leading questions but permit… Read more »
I thought you you were quite anti-Arteta Receding.
Koeman was ultimately awful at Everton and got sacked.
Why the fascination with him?
“No matter who we hire at this moment, our fanbase will be divided and then as soon as things turn a bit awry, the guy at the helm will have to face the music.”
That’s where we are right now, this will get a lot more toxic
The problem is that in reality there are NO coaches around at the moment, that would be really good for Arsenal( or they don’t want to come to us) Allegri ( wants the year off) this means he is not interested or he would take the opportunity now. Arteta also wants to decide on his future club in the Summer Nagelsmann ( my 1st choice) is in the CL with his club so definitely wont come until the summer if then Ten Hag ( think he wants Bayern job) Why would Brendan leave Leics for Arsenal at the moment? I… Read more »
Can we stop mentioning Allegri as an option ? The guy wants to win the CL ,he won’t take the Arsenal job. He is dour and boring anyway.
“Koeman was ultimately awful at Everton and got sacked.Why the fascination with him?” Because he has coached lot’s more teams before Everton maybe and has done fantastically well there and is presently doing a great job with a previosuly failing Dutch National team playing good football. I know the football on display does not matter to you as long as goals are not being conceded but for some it does. “I thought you you were quite anti-Arteta Receding.” No i had an issue with the way Pedro presents him not with the idea itself. He presents it like it’s a… Read more »
Why would you be uninspired of a “Portuguese revolution” Receding if it was carried out fully and correctly?
Portuguese football has always been associated with pragmatism which Arsenal have lacked. Arsenal for so long would rather go down the naive football route. But along with that pragmatism Portuguese football have always had elements of flair to go along with that. It has proved quite a friutful combination for them really all said and done.
Ishola where exactly do you see Nuno taking us?
He failed in Portugal so spare me the Portuguese lecture.
You want us to be a lot more pragmatic? Fine then go for Allegri.
Not the man presently doing ok with an expensively assembled Wolves squad
Like Pedro pointed out in his post, nothing Nuno has done really trumps Emery’s career to date.
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I have already said that Nuno will most probably fail not because of the man himself but because the basket case of a football club called Arsenal will want to bend him into being what they see Arsenal as being.
May as well just appoint Arteta and be done with it. This is the man with the Arsenal “DNA” right.
“I’m just not sure that’s the sort of hire that moves you forward longterm. ”
Pedro, forget about the long term ffs, the club needs to be saved right now.
Morpheus might turn out ok…
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11871447/unai-emery-arsenal-head-coachs-masterclass-cancelled-after-online-abuse
“as part of a “masterclass” series on football coaching, and dealing with prejudice in the game.”
Yeah right, it is true that he nose best. lol
Ishola what would be success under Nuno for you?
Wolves have conceded 16 goals in the league already this season, we 19
Last season it was 46 to our 51
Are we trading coaches for a mere 3 goals reduction in the goals against column?
Still don’t get the fascination.
His teams play within themselves in big games and get turned over in games they are expected to win.
What’s he bringing that takes us up a notch?
Sad to say, but maybe that sort of abuse will give him the will to leave before the end of his contract ?? At this point… I don’t remember it was going this far, even for Wenger.
I have three concerns about the appointment of the Wolves Coach.
1. His background is as a “goalkeeper coach”
2.He has worked at minor clubs where there is far less pressure and expectation than at Arsenal.
3. He has never won anything either as a player or as a coach.
He falls into the category of a decent club coach, but with no real pedigree.
Can you honestly suggest that Messrs Aubameyang and Lacazette can be convinced to sign a new contract or that the club will be able to recruit World Class Players with this coach at helm?
Oh for god’s sake Receding for a man that thought that the Emery appointment was “ok” you do like to do a lot of shouting about the next appointment don’t you. I am telling you that ultimately the Nuno idea is not a good one because the mix of coach and club will most likely not come together and gel. How many times do you want me to say it. But you carry on as though this hasn’t been said. And to disparage Nuno and what he has done with Wolves is just crude. He took them up from the… Read more »
Ishola guess you thought the Emery appointment was BAD then from the get go You haven’t really told me what we get with Nuno besides pragmatism Still waiting for that And no i am not shouting, you asked my views and you are getting them. Wolves conceded 46 goals last season, same as Marco Silva’s Everton. That’s not an opinion but a fact. “And to disparage Nuno and what he has done with Wolves is just crude. He took them up from the Championship remember not that long ago to now competing in Europa League.” Sounds very much like the… Read more »
Emirates Stroller
“Can you honestly suggest that Messrs Aubameyang and Lacazette can be convinced to sign a new contract or that the club will be able to recruit World Class Players with this coach at helm?”
Would both of them sign new contracts with the appointment of Arteta who has never managed a side before?
Let’s be real here either Auba or Lacazette will be off because Arsenal are not a CL club rather than which coach comes in.
Receding
Are you ill.
I have already said Nuno for Arsenal is ultimately not a good idea.
This is now the third or fourth time I have said it.
“I have already said that Nuno will most probably fail not because of the man himself but because the basket case of a football club called Arsenal will want to bend him into being what they see Arsenal as being.”
You should be the one asked if you are a bit under the weather
That was your take on why he might fail, nothing to do with him but all to do with the club.
You asked questions and now beating a hasty retreat because you are just realizing the man hasn’t exactly performed miracles
Oga have a nice morning
Peace on earth. lol
There was nothing wrong with the Emery appointment
It hasn’t worked out and he’s living on borrowed time but let’s stop pretending his resume wasn’t good enough for the club Wenger ran down.
That’s for you Ishola
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For an appointment to work it needs both the coach and club to be a match.
This is quite a basic analogy.
here’s a Nuno stat – Arsenal haven’t beaten wolves whilst NES has been in charge there. Let’s be honest here , wolves play better football than us , even when they finished 5 points behind us in emery’s first season – we could all see it – we have all said even though we went on a 22 game unbeaten run etc we looked awful. You know what nunos record in the prem against pep is since he’s been at wolves : Played 3 Won 1 Lost 1 Drawn 1 Conceding 4 goals in the process and scoring 3 Emery… Read more »
Emirates
You’re concerned about Nuno because of his background as a goal keeping coach?
What about translators who became very successful managers?…or former bankers like Sarri who’ve proven their worth as m hers?
Totally agree. We seem to have become a down market Real Madrid, signing our version of Galactico…which isn’t working. The Luiz deal blew! The Pepe deal stinks! Emery is the pits. The fact he’s still in a job sucks. We seem to move effortlessly between crisis’…we are a disaster club. No one cares and no one is driving for perfection. Our next manager will probably be based on ‘how much compensation do we have to pay and how much per season’? I assume that the lowest number will win. Which means managers like NoNo and Howe and even Dyche might… Read more »
Ishola 70
I think that it would be far more likely that the players would sign with Arteta at
helm.
He is working at Man City who have won two consecutive League Titles and has
a strong working relationship with Pep Guardiola.
“Let’s be honest here , wolves play better football than us , even when they finished 5 points behind us in emery’s first season”
13 points behind not 5 , really don’t know where you got the number 5 from
Arsenal will only hire a big name, big enough to calm every dog down.
All other small talks are just small talks.
Raul/Edu/Josh wouldn’t bring another one who would be under scrutiny from day one into town.
Poch or Allegri?
Poch will be hired if he could be hired. Allegri will be hired if Poch can’t or wouldn’t come.
I fail to see the creativity in appointing Nuno Espirito, i really do.
It just smacks of we are good pals with his agent and won’t cost us that much salary wise. Really struggling to see the creativity.
We can’t hire a manager because Pep has a hard time beating him. We play Pep twice a season
Emiratesstroller
“I think that it would be far more likely that the players would sign with Arteta at
helm.”
If Arsenal miss out on CL yet again this season then it is likely one of them will be sold regardless of which new coach comes in.
Money will be tight and a sale will allow a few transfers elsewhere in the team to be made such as central midfield.
Dissenter I set out my reasons for objecting to his appointment and included the fact that his background was as a goalkeeping coach. It was one of three reasons. Yes of course there have been several coaches who have been successful despite not having a top class football or coaching pedigree. However, if you want to minimise risk you choose in first instance someone with the right pedigree. Arteta may not have been a “world class” footballer, but he was a very good one and played at the top level. He was highly rated both at Arsenal under Wenger and… Read more »
Much as I want Emery gone asap, I would rather the club wait to get the right appointment than simply just employ the best available man mid-season. Without really knowing enough about the Wolves coach, I worry that it would be a ‘convenience’ pick – smaller club in PL/ agent familiarity. Would we be in the same position this time next year? Obviously we have to get rid of Emery but realistically is this season already a right off with regards CL qualification? In other words can we just tread water for the rest of this season and then come… Read more »
One of my mates were at the Arsenal training ground yesterday and thinks the managers toast.
Also said that Nuno would be a good hire. But he’s a tracksuit manager lol
You lot would never be happy no matter who comes in next so all of this argument is just what it is…Whether it’s Nuno or Arteta or whoever, Arsenal will never be united that easily…Some of you have ridiculously high expectations and are quite snubbish to be very honest…
NoNo will not appeal to the housewives.
It’s a no from me.
“Arsenal waiting for BlackFriday to approch Wolves Manager Nuno Espírito Santo as they believe they can get a 50% discount”
quite snubbish to be very honest…
Agreed.
I think we can brush this Off as agent talk. We’re talking about the biggest agent in the game here. He is basically running a club and his marketing of Ronaldo is so elite that the man earns more off of Instagram than he does through playing Football for Juventus. No wonder the the Nuno links are looking so real now. Jorge is a big big agent and he knows how to sell his product. We might no buy but maybe someone else will. Even being considered for the Arsenal will job will only do good for his reputation. And… Read more »
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“ 13 points behind not 5 , really don’t know where you got the number 5 from”
Lol just realised I was looking at GA Column 😂 throws you when it’s the last column of a league table
Except Sabi Morkel has anyone else linked Nuno to Arsenal ? Sabi was linking Enrique to Arsenal a few weeks ago and Mourinho too until he was picked up by Spurs.
“ We can’t hire a manager because Pep has a hard time beating him. We play Pep twice a season”
Come on man that’s not my point , my point is , other than poch and Rodgers , he’s a very good manager who is on a seemingly upward trajectory that’s proven in the prem , a quality I don’t think we can over look.
Bob N16
Who is exactly “the right appointment”?
I still think they should give it to Freddie now, just to get Emery out the door.
The right thing will be to end Emery immediately.
The right appointment is the one that can unite a team, fanbase, club and cement a style for the team.
Does anyone know if saints finished above spurs whist poch was at saints ?
Bob N16 Agreed with what you posted. Frankly I would offload Emery now and bring in interim coach in short term as Chelsea did twice. Then I would look for a young highly rated coach with ambition and talent for summer. The appointment is not an “old fashioned Manager” role. There are plenty of people who rate Arteta and for that matter Vieira as well. Both have worked in a very successful programme at Man City. Also we can recruit other experienced coaches to work alongside them such as Freddie Ljungberg and Denis Bergkamp. At the moment there are a… Read more »
“Come on man that’s not my point , my point is , other than poch and Rodgers ” I don’t think he really is the best we can do outside of this two, personally i don’t. Edu is from South America, Marcelo Gallardo is doing good things at River plate, I have already floated Ronald Koeman (snob snob) he did very good things with a Saints squad that lost a good player every year. Has won stuff in Holland, Portugal and Spain. You can wait a season and snare Nagglemann, or wait till the summer and see where Pochettino is… Read more »
And just to clarify – I really want Arteta, but I don’t think he’ll come at this point in the season.
Him over Allegri for me
My defence of nes is because I think he’s a good manager who should rightly be on the list
Wolves are basically a one man team this season (Traore)
He is a counter attacker ….
With an Underdogs mindset and with zero pussy sauce.
Wolves are his level.
They play well away from home but are scabby at Molineux.
(Huddersfield even beat them 2 nil last season there.)
Throw into the mix- he is the ugliest manager we could choose and was a Goalkeeper previously.
(Him, Vinny and the little Spiv photographed together Alert! )
NO THANKS!
Receding , I’m defo up for Allegri
You’re right about the possibilities being endless in a way
Viera isn’t exactly pulling trees at Nice at the moment and Freddie like Arteta hasn’t managed a game of football in his life but we’ve got Arsenal fans turning their noses at every and any suggestions that cones up that isn’t their favourite pet project…. Only manager who’d unite the fan base like Guns said is one who’d come here and be successful not their connections to City or whether they’re former legends… Whoever comes in will get my support till they start to bomb at the job then they don’t have it anymore. The club should just make a… Read more »
Great post Pedro,
You make a very good case against Nuno when comparing him with Emery, very astute of you Pedro.
I’m sold.
Allegri or Arteta it is.
I think Ten Hag would be great for us too. What concerns me the most is that we’re stuck with Emery for the rest of the season.
Emery was doing quite well at the start. The players trusted him. The results were excellent. I don’t know what happened to him. Is it because of fan noise??? He started focusing only on the opponent’s strength. He adjusted the formation to fit in two strikers. The performance went down hill. He lost trust with the fans and the players. Maybe it was just a nightmare for him. Once he has awaken from it, he’ll act normal again.
Graham, the right appointment won’t become clear until, as Guns says, they are able to get the players and supporters behind a way of playing that addresses our weaknesses and plays to our strengths. I won’t pretend to have the expertise to know who that ‘right appointment’ is. The powers that be are being paid a shitload of money for their experience and knowing a network of people within the industry, to provide insider knowledge that is far removed from my limited knowledge. What I do know is that Sanhelli was around when Emery got the job, which frankly worries… Read more »
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Didn’t someone here say Allegri is a bland manager and that Nagglesman can’t speak English? At this point, I’d actually like us to get Arteta in so that we can at least see what that would look like(hopefully good)
Batistuta appoint Nuno today and i will 110% want him to do well.
We are all just spit balling here
Liverpool go with Klopp.
Man City go with Pep.
Spurs go with Jose.
Leicester go with Rogers.
Glasgow Rangers go with Gerrard
Chelsea go with Lampard
Arsenal go with who???
And then wonder why we FAIL?
And will continue to do so!
We do not need this lanky streak of p**s at The Arsenal!
“Didn’t someone here say Allegri is a bland manager”
yea TR7, he absolutely detests Max Allegri for some reason.
” that Nagglesman can’t speak English? ”
Would be shocked if he can’t speak English
“I’d actually like us to get Arteta in so that we can at least see what that would look like(hopefully good)”
Yea his name coming up again and again is getting a bit tiresome
Giovanni van Bronckhorst
As soon as Emery goes they’ll be a bounce- the management have to be clear in their succession planning. Hopefully they’re extremely busy right now!
I’m sincerely hoping this is all agent talk as I don’t see Nuno as the answer. The counter-attacking style of wolves is easy on the eye but its still not the protagonist footie we should be playing imo, we need to set the pace in matches.
Allegri while boring to some is extremely well organised and tactically astute, he’d be a great manager for us. Arteta is a a risk but one I’d be willing to take, same goes for Freddie, Naggelesman or Vieira.
Rocky7 – Yes thats another one that would be worth a gamble. He’s already done alot of good in his short managerial career.
CG
“….zero pussy sauce….”
That phrase conjures up a highly disturbing image.
For all our sakes please don’t use it again!
Proven winner – Barca and Arsenal (peak) DNA . Young . And his English is so good he speaks fluent Scottish .
“Giovanni van Bronckhorst”
City already on his case
“Arsenal will only hire a big name, big enough to calm every dog down.”
Yeah, right… (lol)
“Giovanni van Bronckhorst”
City already on his case
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So I hear , big shame .
Another ex-Gunner hired by the Citizens, happy times, without a doubt.
Bob N16
12 weeks of Freddie has to be better than 12 weeks with Emery. It’s a no brainer.
Gives us time to sort a few things out and source out a relevant appointment.
Anythings better than the current shitfest.
GVB?
A quick google tells me he won 60% of his games at Feynoord. 6/10.
Which probably means that PSV and Ajax won the rest. So third best team in Netherlands and he has decent stats but one would think that he should have better than 60% seeing as it’s a three team league.
Nonsense.
When performances are going south every week, it is anybody’s guess under UE this team might end up around 12th or 13th.
UE is not tactically such a dumbo that he cannot get to the tech/formation flaw after so many weeks of slide, that he cannot figure out ways to fix it and improve performances. The matter is not technical. It has to be with the players applying themselves.
Hence, a manager change is imminent at Arsenal. More the delay, top-4 will be even more difficult.
Nagelsmann? Why would he come to handle this sinking ship?
Seems that Lucien Favre is living his last hours as Dortmund head coach.
I would give him a try.
Have taken a bit of distance from Arsenal, it’s all a bit too soul-sucking to associate with imo. It’s beyond Emery not being a good fit, the bloke is unnecessarily getting battered from all corners because there’s huge doubts about the competency from those above. That journo mocking him last game out? Nothing funny about it, I’d have head butted the cunt and was gutted Unai is too polite or maybe unawares at what was happening. If he’s sacked in the next two weeks that’s a clear admission they couldn’t see their arse from their elbow when the international break… Read more »
This current Arsenal first 15 is not a playing a bold and fearless game. Too conservative. Saving their skins. And, the frequency with which every player lose possession is unpardonable.
“But can we not have Emery II? Please?”
Difficult… Wenger could have other hidden sons somewhere.
” But can we not have Emery II? Please?”
If even after a fortnight on international break, his team performs poorer and in a far more timid fashion, there is no finding UE II.
mind it, only one Arsenal first XI was playing internationals that fortnight – LT11
I can see Arsenal bottling it and keeping Emery until the Summer.
Its been horrific for months now and he should have been despatched after the EL final yet he’s still in post, with a few favourable results which will come at some point they’ll sweep all this dissent under the carpet and it’s as you were.
The players have been utterly shameful this season, they’re equally as culpable in my opinion.
I not a Favre fan myself. At 62 he hasn’t done anything of note to warrant a call from Arsenal.
The problem is that most fans only know the latest flavour of the month manager. However what Arsenal needs is different. We need: + A coach willing to work under financial constraints + A coach trying to implement attacking football. Playing four, defending football is acceptable if it is effective as soon as it is not, the native will become restless. + A coach with the ambition to get the Champion’s League/Premiership and to win it within a few years. Long term Settling just for top 4 will lead to mediocrity. Even Stoke got fed up with the constant objective… Read more »
” go Arteta/Vieira is you want elite”
Great post Charles until you lost me with the above
Nothing elite in coaching terms about Patrick Viera in my view, nothing at all. That aside i agree with all you have said.
The Unai abuse is now at disgraceful levels.
“The Unai abuse is now at disgraceful levels.”
Arsène agree. lol
Good to see you back Charlie