The Nuno stories went from a light belly rumble to an out and out unexpected ripper of a fart.
Sami Mokbel, a man with fine information, reckons he’s on our list should the club move Emery on. This story was backed by a number of others.
I am hoping the story is a touch like the Enrique and Mourinho rumours. It’s good for a manager like Nuno to be linked with the big jobs even if the story is a nonsense, it’s basically a way of alerting the rest of Europe that he’s all ears if anyone wants to send an offer his way next summer.
My hope is Jorge Mendes is trying to push for his client to find a new gig after 800 days at Wolves.
The Portuguese has done a solid job at Wolves. He’s taken them to the Premier League and made them very difficult to beat. His record against the top 6 has been better than Wenger’s and Unai’s combined, which admittedly isn’t a stretch achievement, but it’s still something.
He has sauce on the touchline, no doubt. If that Sky Sports presenter made a joke about his beard, he’d probably have biten a chunk out of his neck and murdered his kids. No doubt his English is better than Unai’s and the fact he’s built a solid team capable of being an underdog is also very commendable.
I’m just not sure that’s the sort of hire that moves you forward longterm. Compare Nuno’s resume to Unai’s and our guy trounces him. Emery had a smaller budget with Sevilla, La Liga’s version of Wolves, and he won 3 Europa League finals. They both managed Valencia, Nuno finished 4th, Unai finished 3rd three times. The only thing Nuno has on Emery is the language and one very good season in the Premier League.
Also worth remembering, the tiny little club in Wolves is run by one if the murkiest super agents in the game. The man that sold Bebe to Man United bankrolls the club with big cash and pulls in favours only a man of his pedigree could. Wolves has spent £200m in the past two seasons. £20m more than us. That doesn’t diminish the job, but it’s quite an advantage to be able to blow money like that. He’s currently 1 point ahead of Arsenal’s worst run in 38 years.
You also can’t ignore the past. Last time he was given a run at a big club, it was Porto, he struggled to break down teams that played a deep block and he resorted to longball football the fans didn’t like. He didn’t last. I’m sure he can adapt to Arsenal, he’s always flexed the sort of football he plays, but do we really want to play underdog football? If you’re going to go for that sort of manager, why not opt for one with Champions League experience like Allegri or Mourinho? Or, if you’re punting for a Premier League manager at a smaller club, go all out for Brendan Rodgers.
The notion that he’s Poch before he went to Spurs is a struggle for me… Poch didn’t blow £200m net on players at Southampton, nor at Spurs. Different gravy I’m afraid.
The deeper concern would be the signifier that Arsenal are a club controlled by super agents… and all the connotations that go with that sort of territory. We’ve seen first hand what Kia Joorabchian can bring you for a combined outlay of £40m (David Luiz). Can we honestly believe that all these mega fees that are passed around are in the best interests of moving Arsenal forward? It’ll start to look like pigs at a trough.
Raul’s reputation will sour very quickly if we continue to lack creativity and rigor with our approach. Sven Mislintat might not have been the right person for Arsenal, but it’s hard to argue that his vision for how the game should operate was incorrect. The contacts approach lacks transparency and it outsources your creativity. Hoping for other people to be honest about people they’re making fees off of is a fools game.
Here’s hoping the solution to the Emery problem isn’t to give it to a guy with a less impressive resume and better beard. That said, I do like his beard, it’s very cool.
Listen to my pod, please.
Unai
I do have worries about Allegri. He was in Serie A with a side that absolutely dominated in every sense. He wants a massive transfer fund as well. How would his approach translate?
Van Dijk injured and Napoli score.
Van Dijk not injured, slightest touch, actually put his team in trouble collapsing in a heap after being brushed.
How Nuno is shown some disrespect beggers belief. Allegri, Pochettino may be good but the level of disrespect towards Nuno makes you think we’re hiring a nonentity. If you think qualifying from the championship and being a mainstay in the PL is easy, try establishing a business in the countryside without electricity and make it a success, then you’ll understand a good job Nuno has done.
Why am I even ranting, he may not even be hired but it should happen or any other person, I’m in full support mode.
KAy boss
“”””If you think qualifying from the championship and being a mainstay in the PL is easy, try””””
Dyche has done it twice- and not spent 1/5 of what whatshisname and done without being in cohorts with a slimy spiv!
6 months ago Arsenal 7-3 Valencia on aggregate Arsenal 3-0 Napoli on Aggregate. Both now competing in the champions league and unless I’m mistaken , are doing pretty well.. Since that period, Arsenal have brought in Pepe, Tierney, Ceballos, Martinelli and Luiz at great expense and lost Koscielny, Mhkitaryan, Welbeck and Ramsey. All I hear on Le Grove is how poor the players and the squad are and how we need to replace this and that player because they are not up to standard… The question that should be asked , is how have we regressed so alarmingly in such… Read more »
It’s either all Emery’s fault or the Wenger boys were much better footballers than many gave them credit for.
Valencia had a couple of our ex players who were continually slaughtered on here.
Would I rather have coquelin sitting in midfield and Paulinho putting his head in where it hurts …..too right i would.
Where’s the disrespect for Nuno?
Almost like folk can’t have an opinion about a possible manager. State your case if you’re FOR the man, but if someone doesn’t fancy him that’s entirely their choice.
He’d be lukewarm as far as I see it, anyone taking that and stretching it make out like I wouldn’t be supportive is their own agenda at work.
I’ll support whoever, as I did with Emery, but I’ll have a view of who’s potentially taking over and who eventually does take over if that’s ok?
If Sean Dyche manages Arsenal I will give up watching football.
Napoli’s defensive organization is very good. Every player has a well defined position. They can recover their defensive shape very fast. That is a well coached team.
Nuno has done great I would have him
I agree with Pierre Napoli and Valencia got beat by us 6 months ago
A good manager that can set our players up properly will get results straight away
As has JM at the spuds
I would not touch Poch
He has thrown his toys out of the pram and tactically I don’t think he is all that
Salah is not in game shape.
Ox enters the game.
Wolves play great football and Nuno has bought well in the Portuguese market. They also have something we don’t possess under Emery. An identity.
At least even in the lean years Wengers teams entertained us. Watching us now is tedious.
Pools scores!
The Pool’s players have more energy than our players. They can press much better.
Don’t really need commentary on the game cheers Nelson
Thanos The problem is, the longer we leave it, the longer it will take to get back to the level we were even 6 months ago. Emery confuses me ….he was our manager for the 22 game unbeaten run, then had a blip , and then got the team back on track culminating in the 4-2 victory at Valencia and then again took his foot off the pedal and it’s been downhill since. Has he no one that can advice him that he had made a complete cock up of the situation or are they all yes men around him.… Read more »
Pierre please tell us who you would like to manage next?
Pierre tells us that Arsenal are just a wisp away from the big boys with just the right appointment of coach but does he care to explain how Arsenal have such a bad away EPL record that now stretches back to two years?
Take a look at Italian clubs record in the Europa League.
We are not out of the race for the top 4..(with a new manager) 8 points behind chelsea is not insurmountable. I believe they will succumb to a heavy weight of fixtures around February/ March. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me to see them falter in the run up to Christmas , They play a very high energy game and in the end it will take it’s toll , especially if they pick up a few more injuries. It was a superb game to watch earlier but Chelsea remind me of the ces ,rvp, ade era when the games were… Read more »
Chelsea leak goals for fun.
We all knew that virtually from the start of the season.
I ran with a Marko fact on Twitter today, turns out it was completely wrong.
Nagelsmann speaks fantastic English.
https://twitter.com/AlexShawESPN/status/1199805552550912000?s=20
Think Pierre is bang in, being shit on the road is a psychological issue, and we finished close to 3rd last season.
Needs to be a really smart appointment though.
You supporting the next manger is a choice. For some, if it’s not Arteta/Poch any hire is underwhelming.
As I said before, we’ll need to hire and fire to get it right all that at an expense.
Being shit on the road is a sign that the team is not good as people are making out.
In fact it’s a telling point.
You can get teams in leagues all over the place at all levels that have good home records but are midtable average sides because they can’t back up their home form.
Home form does not make a good team. Has to be more.
And relying on mostly home form eventually bites you if you are not truly up to scratch and the once very good home form then itself turns awry.
Emery is the worst coach in the world now because he has dropped six home points in his last three EPL matches.
This is what it all boils down to.
You can’t hide behind home form forever if the team are not truly up to scratch.
Could Nuno be the answer to our prayers? Who knows! The point is that no one is guaranteed to bring success. Coaching licences mean jack shit, as do all paper qualifications, interview presentations etc. As I have pointed out before, ex Arsenal man Paul Davis is one of the best qualified coaches in the UK. Does that make him a shoe in for the job? No, he has no experience, could he succeed? Who knows! It is a bit of a lottery with our fractured appointment process. The club will probably farm it out to an HR company to pick… Read more »
I hear Jose Arrogantio is avaialble (aka Paul Whitehouse). Check him out on Youtube!
“For some, if it’s not Arteta/Poch any hire is underwhelming.“
I don’t agree with this. Pedro got a good dose of that when Emery was hired, claims of him being salty about Arteta and the like when in reality he never fancied the guy chosen.
Think it’s an easy remark to pass. I don’t care who’s in charge if they’re successful, and I’m sure it’s the same for any fan.
But speculating on such things is football chat in a nutshell, doesn’t always have to be about ulterior motives. Bit undermining that.
What we need is a young manager with great ideas and a vision of a style of play
Let’s get this done
Ishola
“Pierre tells us that Arsenal are just a wisp away from the big boys with just the right appointment of coach”
Did I say that ..no , of course not. I said if we can play at a decent level 6 months ago then there is no reason why we cant get back to that level .
Ishola
“Emery is the worst coach in the world now because he has dropped six home points in his last three EPL matches.”
I would put it down to the fact that he is setting up the team in a way that allows mid table teams and lower to have 20+ shots at our goal.
To be honest he’s lucky it was only 6 points dropped .
CC, did you see my Nagelsmann comment?
Pierre
“I would put it down to the fact that he is setting up the team in a way that allows mid table teams and lower to have 20+ shots at our goal.”
Yeah and if he squeezed through those home matches winning two of them 3-2 and the other 2-1 fans would still be going along with him.
Let’s not pretend that this coach and team have just been shown up now.
They were shown up at Wolves and Leicester last season and against Chelsea in the Europa League final. It’s been simmering away for a long while now.
Pedro
”I ran with a Marko fact on Twitter today, turns out it was completely wrong.”
Haha, never go to war with a Marko nugget.
I reckon Nagelsmann is potentially a hire that would greatly unite the fan base more than any other coach.
It was a case of when the dam was going to break.
And break it did.
Well thank heavens Wenger Eagle is asking the question I have been asking, why have Spurs been rubbish since January 2019 and why did a dream manager lose his dressing room.
Blaming it all on Levy and boredom on Pochettino’s part is all a bit convenient.
You can setup the team anyway you like, Sokratis will always be rubbish.
If you keep losing possession like amateurs in your own half, keep allowing teams waltz through your midfield without as much as a challenge you are going to face shots every game.
They should hurry up and sack Emery so this bunch of jokers have nowhere to hide.
Samesong “Pierre please tell us who you would like to manage next?” What I don’t want is for us to make the same mistake again, in hiring a manager with a certain football philosophy when we dont have the players to implement that philosophy. It is vital that we get in someone who is excited to work with players of the calibre of Ozil, Lacazette, Pepe and Aubameyang…I never had the impression that those players and Ramsey are Emery’s type of players and maybe the players felt that as well . A manager like Rodgers or Pochettino would make an… Read more »
Pedro Marko sold you a pup
I would have him over anyone else bar pep and klopp right now
Pedro
What, you getting your pants pulled down for using a Markoism casually? Lol
Nagelsmann wont come mid season surely? I thought he rebuffed all last summer for this project he’s at just now?
We’ve messed up not backing a youngster post-Wenger. Emery simply isn’t the competent hands we apparently considered him, we need to get this next one right (easier said of course). But more importantly the blueprint of HOW we upscale needs to be crystal clear and smart.
RH “If you keep losing possession like amateurs in your own half, keep allowing teams waltz through your midfield without as much as a challenge you are going to face shots every game.” A player will get caught in possession of the football when he has no options to pass to . Is that the players fault or is it the way the manager sets up the team. Emery is on the touchline pointing to where he wants players to go , pointing to where he wants them to pass to , so the obvious conclusion is that it is… Read more »
How about Ten Hag and Dennis as no2.
Love Dutch players most of them are two footed ballers.
Champagne charlieNovember 27, 2019 20:56:42 Where’s the disrespect for Nuno? >>>>>>> I present exhibit A; the usual suspect who can’t resist an insult: CGNovember 27, 2019 20:03:49 Glenn Roeder in….? Might as well. He is as cheap and nasty. And as lanky and as gormless and as usless as the Wolves manager Come to think of it – he looks like a bleeding Wolf- Molineux is his natural habitat.. Farcical Apointment and totally apt for Arsenal 2019. Gone by The Cup Final. >>>>> Guy’s not even been offered the job yet and CG’s already throwing the slurs about. Change the… Read more »
off topic
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russia-troll-2020-election-interference-twitter-916482/
We’re burning the candle righ5 down now… Nino … is a Nono
Good morning Charlie just got to read your reply post from last night where I remember now some of your Poch comments from your pre hiatus posts. You make compelling arguments for Rafa and Poch, but I still have reservations regarding Poch. Yes, in many ways Poch ticks most of the boxes as you pointed out; however, I feel Poch lacks a winners’ mentality or at least has a mental block when it comes to winning vital games and this transfers to his players. Poch also has a suspect temperament where he deflects blame to his players when things ultimately… Read more »
Meanwhile in Emery La La land Emery has sent the players off to mentally recover from the Southampton game; the game they has 2 weeks to mentally prepare for.
“Unai Emery gives his Arsenal flops TWO DAYS off ahead of Europa League clash with Frankfurt despite dismal six-game winless run
Unai Emery gave his players two days off after the draw with Southampton
He believes his players needed to ‘mentally recover’ after another poor result
The Arsenal boss is under pressure after registering just one win in eight games
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7732823/Unai-Emery-gives-Arsenal-flops-TWO-DAYS-ahead-Europa-League-clash-Frankfurt.html
I’m beginning to think Emery needs professional help. Xhaka has no place ever wearing the Arsenal shirt again, but if Emery has wrongly decided that Xhaka should play, why pick a home game to play him where the toxicity is on a very short fuse? Beggars belief! “‘I hope every supporter supports him’: Unai Emery reveals Granit Xhaka could return to action in Europa League tie with Frankfurt after being dropped for telling fans to ‘f*** off’ in furious row” “Unai Emery says Granit Xhaka is in contention to play against Frankfurt The midfielder has not played since the 2-2… Read more »
Further proof of Emery’s questionable sanity: Emery must be oblivious to the press articles on his potential firing.
“‘The club is supporting me’: Unai Emery insists Arsenal top brass are still backing him despite Gunners’ terrible run of form
Arsenal have endured a morale-sapping run of just one win in eight games
Emery said: ‘I feel the club, everyone responsible in that area is backing me’
Arsenal were jeered off following Saturday’s 2-2 draw against Southampton”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7732809/Unai-Emery-insists-Arsenal-brass-backing-despite-Gunners-terrible-run-form.html
Beckham is targeting Vieira to be MLS manager of Miami; just hope Vieira has the sense to decline such a futile offer.
I propose we go after fat Sam
After all he is the only England manager with a 100% win record
‘morning folks! There is a section of Arsenal fans here and elsewhere raking up sympathy angle for UE – he tried, he is honest so on and so forth…. Football manager’s careers and their tenures are not measured by honesty, diligence, sincerity and similar virtues. Results, results and results. If a manager like Favre is hanging by a thread today, UE should take his sacking in his stride. And so should all such Arsenal fans who have got used to managers’ tenure without any accountability. What fuckin excuses do the Arsenal mngt have to put fwd to explain why Poch… Read more »
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11871772/unai-emery-arsenal-head-coach-says-he-has-clubs-support
Good ebening and Emery Christmas.
Our club is so dead….
“Really, the one thing we need is to be more compact. We are conceding more goals than we wanted and the opposition are creating more chances than we wanted. That is the first tactical issue I want to change,” said Emery. Better to say nothing. You got a job, you knew what you were expected to fix, you dragged your predecessor for not fixing it, you failed to fix it after 18 months, and now here you are talking as if you are just realizing what your job is. The major reason most people passionately disliked Wenger was because of… Read more »
Yep, better late than never, Unai!! lol
peanuts&monkeys
Incompetence should never be tolerated.
Emery is clearly incompetent.
There are no “fudging excuses”.
Vanilla fudge!!
So are Frankfurt turning up with 20000 fans tonight at the Emirates?
I have other things more interesting to do than to watch the unbearable Dracula.
GoH
“Slow news day in here. I guess the regulars are banged up or on reduced internet hours at the asylum.”
Not sure about everyone else but I was at a Vietnamese birthday celebration. Although I understood only around 10% of what was said to me, it still made more sense than what’s happening at Arsenal at the moment.