courtesy @allthatchas
It’s becoming harder and harder to raise a defence as to why you’d keep Unai Emery on at Arsenal. Southampton, placed 19th, boasting the worst defence in the league, were the better team away from home this evening.
They had more shots on target, they had more big chances, and they fought like dogs for 97 minutes. The last-gasp equaliser from Lacazette in the 95th minute was a relief, but it didn’t stop the fans venting their frustration with a chorus of boos.
Unai Emery doesn’t make things easy for himself, the pregame chatter was focused on telling the fans they were wrong about Granit Xhaka. Think it by all means, but understand the fans perspective, and don’t poke the bear when you’re exposed. We don’t like Xhaka, telling us we’re wrong is not for this moment. Thankfully, we didn’t see the Swiss in the squad, but the manager still messed up his starting lineup, once again electing for a conservative back 3 at home.
We were bad. We went a goal down again, this time inside 10 minutes. Chambers made a clumsy foul, Southampton took it quickly, our players complained instead of chasing down their mistake, we went a goal down. When a team is downing tools in the Premier League, it only needs to be a 5% reduction in effort, seeing us that unfocused from a freekick is what I’m talking about. Sunday league basics.
We pulled a goal back, Lacazette making the most of a free ball in the box 10 minutes later. We hoped that was part of a resurgence, but it really wasn’t. The game played out like a scrappy cup game, it was end to end calamity for both teams. The middle of the park of wide open, our defence was being pulled all over the place, and we had next to nothing in attack.
I spent a lot of the game watching our midfield, which is really our biggest problem. There’s simply no understanding of positioning on or off the ball. Lucas Torreira and Matteo Guendouzi have no chemistry in the middle of the park, likely due to a lack of playing together, but even so, watching them trudge back to cover was frustrating, but worse was how little they gave to the transition to attack. Their slow movement either boxes them into a press, or it closes down passing lanes that should help create openings out wide. LT is also done at Arsenal, watching him step off and allow a rasping shot at our goal felt par the course for him. He hates Emery and he’s not interested.
The second half we saw some action, the manager introduced Pepe who looked better, but still well off what an £80m player should be delivering. I think his tenure at Arsenal was summed up when he was found on the counter, he had Ozil open at the back post, or the option of having a crack on his own, he dithered, tried to find Ozil, and bungled his lines.
Southampton continued to keep the pressure on us and eventually won a penalty when the otherwise impressive Tierney tugged at Ings’ shirt. VAR said yes. Leno actually saved the penalty, but Prowse was first to the rebound. I know there was no chance one of our defenders was going to make it, but when you watch the replay, look at how slow our players were with the follow up, half didn’t move, the rest were a yard behind Ings’. 5% can mean a lot at this level.
We did pull one back in the end, Martinelli served up a great cross that Lacazette finished off saving a bit of face.
It wasn’t enough for the fans though, boos for a dead man walking reverberated around the ground. The manager, far less animated than he was at the start of his career, trudged to the dressing room looking like a man on the edge.
Raul and Edu don’t have a defence now. They’re serving Emery up open goals to save his career and he shanking them wide from a yard out. Southampton are one of the worst teams in the league, they shipped 9 goals against Leicester – Arsenal barely managed to scrape 5 shots on target. The team is broken. Emery doesn’t know how to fix it, and worst of all, the players don’t care for what his possible solve could be.
The decision isn’t simple though. Remember, Raul is weirdly wedded to Unai Emery, that’s his boy, he put his rep on the line to recommend him to the board and everyone at the club knows that. He’s clearly a stubborn man, and it seems like the worse his boy performs, the more he digs his heels in.
The major concern is there’s no plan for what comes next. Freddie Ljungberg is a great face for the fans, but it’s questionable if he’s the innovative coach we’re looking for. He hasn’t been exposed to modern coaching greatness. Arteta, another exciting explayer with a huge insider reputation might be out of our reach, and we might look too much of a mess for his first job (things are that bad). Then you have the #1 candidate, Pochettino, clearly the absolute perfect resume to bring us out of the doldrums. Fresh off a sacking and the humiliation of being replaced by a nasty has-been… but does he want football right now? Or does he want guaranteed trophies and a new adventure in Europe with Bayern or PSG if they move Tuchel on at the end of the season?
We are low on options. What you can’t do is sack someone and make a 4-year replacement mistake like they have done at United time and time again. We need a clever decision that’s forward-facing, or we need a coach that truly is the Gus Hiddink or Rafa Benitez care taker type of character.
One things is for sure, change has to come and it has to come soon. Things will heat up for Raul when he realises his reputation with the fans and the owners starts to slide. Another empty stadium, another day of bad headlines, and the harsh impending reality that Arsenal blew next summers kitty on making the Champions League this year.
We are in trouble without decisive, well thought out action… do the football execs have it in them to save our season?
Let’s see…
Can anybody honestly remember the last time we put in a good performance in the PL, February, March? Says it all really.
The attention is now on Sanhelli and Edu. Their competency is now very much on the line. Emery is going to be replaced, the question is when and by whom.
We need some good news.
Get O Leary on Board
Get Raul /Edu Out
Get Sean Dyche In 24 months
And remember.
Little Burnley are 6th
Little Burnley were in Europe last season as well.
Little Burnley play 2 up front every week and score goals.
(They slaughtered Watford yesterday- we allowed 31 shots at ours when we played them)
He is a fabulous man manager and is the nearest thing around to Fergie.
He would have us back on track in no time.
Dont be snobbish, now
And dont be get scared of The Dyche!
Vote Ginger.
Victorious, you are wrong. Emery will be removed very soon. Don’t know if you went to the game yesterday but the support, who are generally very loyal, were calling for Emery to be sacked.
CG
Cut the crap will ya, we’re currently playing like a midtable team but no way does the quality of our squad reflect that..Dyche is bland and will ensure our status permanently as a middling club
All potential to ever climb up the table or become a top club again will slowly fade away just like the morning cloud if ever he sets foot in
The likelihood is that Emery is going to get the boot and in the near future. As Emirates noted the team were utterly dysfunctional yesterday and you don’t recover to any great degree when the team are so off. Trouble for Emery is just around the corner at every turn and it will be a miracle if he survives until the end of the season now. He’s cooked. His team is cooked. The likely scenario is that we get a caretaker manager situation until the end of the season with either Ljungberg or Mertesacker and soon enough. The performances and… Read more »
Bob
We’ll have to wait and see about that,Still maintain it’ll be a shock as all statements coming out from the club is that he’s got the full backing of the club and the fans agitation are nothing but mere noise, he should have been shown the door during the international break, it was glaring to see he couldn’t take us any further and here were still struggling even against absolute relegation plodders. For him to survive the break after such horrendous run leading to it makes it’s obvious he ain’t going anywhere soon
I’ve heard people before state that they don’t like vitriol and what can be termed fan power when they mock and dislike platforms such as AFTV.
Well in this case this vitriol and “fan power” is necessary because Emery needs to be cut asap.
Stroller Jose came into Tottenham and the first thing he did was bring Dier in to play alongside winks in central midfield. He played a 4-2-3-1 which allowed his 4 offensive players ( kane,alli, son, moura) to play with freedom, in the knowledge that they have the protection behind . Why Emery refuses to play with 2 holding midfielders is beyond me ,especially as defensively we look so vulnerable. He also refuses to play with pepe ,ozil , Aubameyang and Lacazette which I find baffling. Surely the first thing a manager should do is make the defence solid. If it… Read more »
Victorious (Good morning to you.) The Quality of the squad is much over hyped around here. Its average at best it- a painstakingly slow squad. (More mobility in a care home at supper) Raul keeps buying average players for fortunes – and that no one else wants. Eg Tierney/pepe/louise We are going to be mid table/relegation borders team in the seasons to come. Cut your cloth accordingly And take your medicine. Refocus and stop the Rot Dyche. All day Long.. How anyone can not admire Burnley and what Dyche does every season? He has pubs named after him in Lancs!!… Read more »
Interesting the 5pro cent.Remember many years ago ,discussing this with a Man City regular.We agreed ,in the modern game,if one player is not 100 pro cent committed,you have a problem.
We’re so shitly managed as a club it boggles the mind, just looked at what Spuds just did, they knew Poch is absolutely done and used a great opportunity to bring in a manager that can still sneak them into top4 despite having a stronger connection to the club and a better coach than Emery
How can the top management see that and still allow this shit to fester? We’re almost double figures off top 4 and really we can still save the season if we replace the coach, club is such a joke it’s unbelievable
Vic “For him to survive the break after such horrendous run leading to it makes it’s obvious he ain’t going anywhere soon” No. Drawing at home to Wolves who are a decent side and drawing at home to Palace who have shown they can give anybody a match when they play on the road and losing to Leicester away who are flying is a completely different kettle of fish to being embarrassed at home to a team like Southampton where the score could have ended 6-2 in Southampton’s favour. A completely different kettle of fish. The match yesterday was plummeting… Read more »
“Emery is a dead man walking”
Arsenal will wallow in the depths of ordinary until Stan Kroenke sells the Club to another suitor. That being a purchaser who’s utmost goal is to win significant trophies. If you don’t understand what I am saying then your main goal is to support an ordinary Club that is currently The Arsenal. It’s your choice, But I don’t watch them live anymore, because I have zero respect for Stan Kroenke.
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ES “The new manager/head coach needs time to rebuild the team particularly in
midfield and defence.”
The attack also need rebuilt. You don’t play two strikers and no wingers in the EPL nowaday. The whole team is a mess. Every player tried to do it by himself. I was hoping that Pepe and Bellerin would work together. Was I wrong. Bellerin was standing on the sideline high up the pitch. Pepe was again doing his thing alone. That’s not team effort. It’s a lack of organization and coaching.
Drawing at home to Wolves who are a decent side and drawing at home to Palace who have shown they can give anybody a match when they play on the road and losing to Leicester away who are flying is a completely different kettle of fish to being embarrassed at home to a team like Southampton where the score could have ended 6-2 in Southampton’s favour.” Not even about the results but the performance, it’s been shit since the first match of the season and still shit even now, we have struggled in every single match played and results are… Read more »
Saints 0 Leicester City 9
(in the 96th minute yesterday)
Arsenal 1 Saints 2
And the snobs and the phoney progressives don’t want a touch of Ginger in their Arsenal Diets?
That posture.
He knows His Apples and Calves.
442 man- keeps it so simple.
His voice Outgravels the Spiv too.
He is cut from the same cloth as Fergie
Dont we want a bit of Fergie???
Vic Whether he should have been sacked or not in the international break the hierarchy were hoping that he could get some more points on the board in the next three games against Southampton, Norwich and Brighton and he has failed miserably at the first hurdle. And believe that performance against Southampton yesterday was the worst that has been seen yet in regards to total dysfunction. What is going to save Emery? Winning some second tier Europa League games? It’s not going to be EPL matches because this current team and manager are not capable now to put anything like… Read more »
What the f@#$ has Stan Kroenke done for The Arsenal. In 20 years, 40 years what will be his legacy.? Well to put it in English historic terms, it will be remembered as ‘ The Dark Ages’. Gooners in 50 years time will look back & think how was this Crankie American twat allowed to last so long. That’s what they’ll think. Yet the debate among fans back then centred around scapegoats like the manager, back 4 & geezers called Xhaka & Ozil. They’ll conclude that in actual fact all the Club needed to do was get rid of an… Read more »
Rangers are on tonight, I’m really looking forward to it
Minus Josh and family, Raul etc aren’t rest of the board average around 80 yo? This bunch ought to be kicked out pronto to rid of the obvious disconnect with modern football, and sports in general.
Change what’s possible when Stan appears a fixture.
Lolz. Arsenal.
If I’m not reading emery is sacked, Arsenal aren’t taking this seriously.
And there’s your answer to the question: do Arsenal even care?
Categorically, no. No they don’t.
What is going to save Emery? Winning some second tier Europa League games?” Not sure about that either, we never look in control against ANY team,I’m just so vexed now because the club looks to have bottled the chance for CL football last season by allowing him to continue. Pulling the plug earlier would have provided for us a fighting chance at least Doubt whoever will bring in now will get us top4 Chavs and Liecester have ran away already and there is a rejuvenated spuds side should incase there is a slip up by either of them We’ll play… Read more »
We won’t be playing Europa football next season. We won’t finish top seven.
We are not qualifying for Europa either if Emery stays till end of the season. I can’t remember the last time I was left wondering from where our next league win was going to come from.
Raul and Edu are disappointing me. How on earth is Emery at post after yesterday’s eyesore.
We’re double figures off top 4. It’s been late in coming. We ain’t making top4 this season as it’s a guarantee now.
#emeryout
Looks like we’re going to have to wait a couple more weeks, until after the West Ham game to know Emery’s fate… according to the express at least.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1208491/Arsenal-Unai-Emery-sack-decision-Southampton-draw-Gunners-latest-news
Emery has identified the problem as lack of confidence. Fuck this. The players wasn’t trained properly to play with each other. The team has no chemistry. The formation was shit and required tinkering during the game. PapaSok was playing like an old man.
And the board said that Emery is the right man for the job! @#$%^&
G of H “””””We won’t be playing Europa football next season. We won’t finish top seven”””””” I think – we both stated that in our Le grove pre- season forecasts – that we would be about 10th??? (See thats Wisdom G of H: the puppies on here were still playing with their new toys ( i e new players) and oblivious to the dangers out there persisting with the Raul and Emery combo) Had Saints won yesterday- we would only be 6 points above them. Frankfurt will annihilate us Thursday- this will be like a home fixture for them –… Read more »
“Frankfurt will annihilate us Thursday- this will be like a home fixture for them – if their fans are like Colognes”
Thank god their fans are not allowed to come.
The things that’s so frustrating is that the club are in a permanent state of wait and see what happens next week, as if we will learn anything new from this This culture was instated under wenger years but has shamefully continued even after a total culling of most of the prior senior management The old game was always to treat every bad performance or result as if it was an isolated incident to make those who complain come across as knee jerk when in reality the problems were predictable and in plain sight for months or years on end… Read more »
nelson
“””””Thank god their fans are not allowed to come.””””””
Lowest ever attendance then at the Emirates?
Frankfurt who hit Bayern for 5 will out do that Thursday in The Loosers
Buy them Frankfurt Goals, early!
Pierre, at least you, as well as I remember Arsenal back in the dark ages, when we were pretty much a middle of the table club. Fifteen years without a title wasn’t uncommon then. Arsenal supporters that have only come on board since the creation of the PL were spoilt by Wenger for a decade, they expect maybe too much too quick.
Way back then though, I never heard an Arsenal supporter wanting us to lose for any reason.
Nelson, Frankfurt’s fans won’t be attending. They have received a ban from EUFA.
Nelson
Sorry mate, I misread your comment.
CG
Yes I think we both said spending £70m on a winger when we needed defenders was like buying wallpaper while the roof caved in.
It’s sad.
Has Emery been sacked by now? Or Raul? Or Edu? Or all of them? This joke must end today. Somebody needs to go! Players are crashed. Auba hasnt scored for ages, Laca didnt even celebrate his goals like doing it grudgingly and Pepe in a sitauation 1 vs 1 passes the ball parallel; his confidence is gone So much toxicity and alienation among the team. Htf is not possible to see for board members. Enough with this inertia! Go with Freddie as interim coach until end of the season. He will accept it. Allegri is not coming, Poch is not… Read more »
We should replace Sokratis with Big Willie Young
The problem is the fans have not come to the only truth that Raul is the problem. Other CEOs at other clubs would’ve sack him 2 months into this season but at Arsenal, indifference reigns. To surmise, we are laying siege at the wrong side of the fortress. Let’s fight the real rot – RAUL.
Gnarled
What cunning plan do you have to boot out the Kroenkes
Sean Dyche?
Seriously?
Wise up.
China1 ‘This culture was instated under wenger years but has shamefully continued even after a total culling of most of the prior senior management.’ Right. The current situation at arsenal- bad as it is- is fascinating. The next month or so will tell us a lot about the club’s intentions and its future. There is no wenger any more. The club has been restructured and now has a management set up in line with most other big, modern clubs. Like at other big clubs, arsenal fans expect the management and ownership to act quickly, decisively and if needs be, ruthlessly,… Read more »
“ The problem is the fans have not come to the only truth that Raul is the problem. Other CEOs at other clubs would’ve sack him 2 months into this season”
Other CEO’s would’ve have sacked him after Our end of season collapse and the europa league final
Why on Earth are billionaires with presumably smart people around them so trusting to the point of naive in who they let run this club? First, total control to Wenger, now Raul.
Wenger is one thing, but what qualifications does Raul have for this level of power at the club? Agent friends? Fucking up Barca?
Why on Earth are billionaires with presumably smart people around them so trusting to the point of naive in who they let run this club? First, total control to Wenger, now Raul.
Wenger is one thing, but what qualifications does Raul have for this level of power at the club? Agent friends? Fucking up Barca?
‘I believe he will be sacked on Monday, to let things continue in this way will damage the club.’ No he will not be sacked on Monday. Raul is suppose to lead the trigger pulling but he had staked his neck out for Emery when Gazidis preferred Arteta, Gazidis was technically overruled which technically ceded power to Raul from that point on. Raul played Josh and Sven to grab power from Gazidis promising Sven a share of the power. Gazidis saw that his time was up and sent signals out for another job, the Milan job was his escape from… Read more »
Wenger is now gone and we seems to have exactly the same problem except that we are worse on the pitch. Why, because Wenger was not the source of the problem he was a symptom of the problem. Since David Dein left, Arsenal have not had anybody in the upper management who knew anything about football. Nobody who could act decisively and knowingly for the good of the club. Once Dein left, There was a power vacuum and Wenger filled it. Even when a new club CEO was named, Wenger was still in charge. Gazidis was an incompetent fool in… Read more »
Raul whatever is his name is the problem at the moment and not even the manager himself….Talked in the summer about how painfully slow we were in the market and lots said it was moaning and then we ended up with a couple of decent players later on.. The Kroenkes are also probably the worst owners in the league and absolutely nothing can be done or said to make me think otherwise…. Any ambitious club would have sacked Emery after the Leicester defeat but the morons who run Arsenal do not care about anything other than their bottom line… Just… Read more »
As a club, we’ve settled mediocrity for far too long, now we’re paying the price and privilege for it. Inactivity, reactionary and lacklustre in all fronts. Right now, UE should be shown the door. Tactics, communication are out the window with this team. I think anyone would like to see a caretaker position until at the end of the season. Let Freddie install some passion and understand what it’s like to play for Arsenal yo some of these players. We clearly have no plan at all on who to recruit right now. So the summer it is, with regards another… Read more »
Pierre Let’s start off with the pluses in our squad. We have if anything an oversupply of good forwards. Both Aubameyang and Lacazette are 20-25 goals a season players in the right environment and Pepe on the assessment of many good judges is also rated very highly albeit has yet to deliver at the Arsenal. Furthermore we have some outstanding young prospects in this department with Martinelli, Nketiah and Saka. Many of the top teams in Europe are already regretting that they did not buy Martinelli. So we do not need to spend money in this department PROVIDED that we… Read more »
Gentlebris,
Great minds think alike.
I have always said that Raul was a bigger danger to Arsenal than Gazidis. Gazidis never saw Arsenal as a lasting project just as a stepping stone to a CEO role in a product company rather than football or to a CEO role where he could profit via equity shares.
On the other hand, after being pushed out by Barcelona, Raul see the Arsenal job as his chance to make it big. He won’t leave without a fight.
“Remember when Spurs were trying to highjack the Saliba deal and he stayed in the US near Josh instead of trying to close the deal.”
I didn’t realise that the Spud’s signed Saliba I thought we did.
“Raul is suppose to lead the trigger pulling but he had staked his neck out for Emery when Gazidis preferred Arteta, Gazidis was technically overruled ”
Where do some of you get this shit from – it actually worries me that you are allowed to roam the streets.
Marc,
Saliba released a public statement indicating that he was not interested in moving to Spurs. They then backed off. Had he be interested in a Spurs move he would currently play in white.
MARC.
Saliba is an Arsenal player.
Valentin
You once again tie yourself up in knots. You claim that Sanllehi didn’t close the Saliba deal when he did.
Trying sticking to what actually happens.
James
I know – I was making a point that Valentin was having a pop at Sanllehi for not closing the deal for Saliba when we did sign him.
The europa league game against Frankfurt should NOT be included in the list of games that emery has to save himself – it’s like giving him a carabaou cup game to save himself – the prem games should be what a manager is judged on. But then , he shouldn’t have any games left to save himself. I can’t believe there are more reports of arsenal wanting to give him more time after the soton game ? What are they seriously expecting to see ? We are a fucking shambles , his methods are NOT working and he hasn’t got… Read more »
Currently with family and, as the game was not being shown on TV, there was no need to go down to the pub. And just as well. Having read through all your comments, I am not remotely surprised by what happened yesterday. I vaguely hoped that maybe, just maybe, that UE would use these 2 weeks to do something different but he didn’t. UE is 100% a mid-table manager who is utterly clueless as what to do at a higher level. To think of it, the writing was on the wall at the end of last season: he was incapable… Read more »
Marc,
I was making the point that Raul was more interested in getting cosy with Josh than actually concentrating on his job.
I remember you getting very upset because it was reported by every newspapers that Spurs were trying to highjack the deal.
Francis Martinos “”””””The problem is the fans have not come to the only truth that Raul is the problem. Other CEOs at other clubs would’ve sack him 2 months into this season but at Arsenal, indifference reigns. To surmise, we are laying siege at the wrong side of the fortress. Let’s fight the real rot – RAUL.””””””” Well said. Cant emphasise how dangerous this man is to AFC. And to think fans wanted to build him a bloody stature -because he spent money ( not his) on some overpriced soccer players. can you believe how shallow some fans are???? The… Read more »
Boycott the club until Kroenke sells up and fucks off.
Unfortunately being a billionaire doesn’t mean Stan or Josh know how to run arsenal or know who can run it in their absence. They also have piss poor judgment of others ability so they’re reaping what they haven’t showed I guess you could say…
Why are they giving him more time to prove himself? What kinda dumb dolts do we have running this football club? How hard can it be to see that results and performances are not improving?
Seems Edu too is just another yes man types…. Swear Arsenal is just cursed
“Boycott the club until Kroenke sells up and fucks off”
How many will do that? Very few. Better for supporters to turn up and make their feelings known – full volume.
Yeah there comes a point where you can no longer blame the manager. He doesn’t know what he’s doing but he’s not going sack himself is he.
This lies firmly at raul’s Door
If you want Raul to listen you should be chanting his name in the stadium
As long as it’s generic booing or not aimed at him he won’t take it personally. The moment he feels personally affronted he will be forced into action to defend himself and the only way he can do that is by binning emery
It would only take 5-10k fans at the next home game to chant ‘do your job, raul’ for 5 mins and I tell you he will not sit around naval gazing for long
“It would only take 5-10k fans at the next home game to chant ‘do your job, raul’ for 5 mins and I tell you he will not sit around naval gazing for long”
^^^ this!
And before anyone labels me as an armchair fan for telling the match goers what I think they should do when I’m not going to games – the only game I was able to attend in the last couple of years I paid over £200 for two tickets and put my money where my mouth was and still changed wenger out
Frankly you don’t even have to name Raul – just chant ‘Stanley kroenke are you watching?’
What people forget is that removing wenger was never going to be the end of the action fans would need to take because we don’t have a normal club or owner We can never assume the higher ups and owners will be proactively working to make the club as good as it can be because the owners don’t care so there’s no oversight – and we have a culture that has prided itself on mediocrity quite literally for a decade The battle was won with wenger but the war is never won without constant intervention and oversight from the fans.… Read more »
As bad as we think emery is, Raul can go back to josh and tell him how emery is doing a pretty good job at the soccer balls and josh is too dumb to know better
We have an owner whose primary interest is, understandably, profit. When we sold out to Kroenke, we began our slow descent. As for the manager – I had hoped that last season he was putting down the foundations (despite a few setbacks), but we are worse than ever. Awful to watch and still no solution to defensive frailties and weak mentality. Whether we like it or not, our only chance is to appoint a motivational manager who can organise us defensively and punch above his weight. But not just anyone. That is what got us into this mess. Any chance… Read more »
Legendary DB10
Regarding the Kroenkes, I’ve made my views crystal clear on here for years.
What’s interesting is that they actually have a chance to show how serious they are about arsenal right now.
Stan/Josh can act decisively and ambitiously and prove to fans that they are 100% behind arsenal succeeding and that the club is more than just a prudent foreign investment that ticks over.
Do I think they will do this?
No, but at least the fans will no longer be under any illusions concerning Kroenke and co.
Some very good posts today, we all love the club but we are in the middle of a era of pure greed and money driven management. The owners brought the club as we know to make money through property ownership and money pouring in through sponsorship and Sky. They are not here to enjoy football and make us winners. The under management are cockroaches as CG suggests, keep treading on them and they won’t go away. They will not admit their mistakes they would rather let the fans suffer longer, they have no love for the club and never will,… Read more »
No Arsenal fans are chanting anything other than “sit down in front”. The most passive aggressive bunch of wet towels you could hope for as supporters. We are a joke of a club from Stan to the twat in row 200 and his £2000 ticket. It starts and ends with the fans I’m afraid. Wenger would have limped on but the empty stadium sealed the deal. Durrrrr…go do that again in bigger numbers and you’ll get what you want. Nothing looks worse than the sad sack saying 60,000 in attendance when clearly there is little more than 30,000 in. Vote… Read more »
I doubt Josh is that dumb China, and even if he is, his advisors won’t be. Remember it was probably Josh who went against Rauls little plan to give emery a new deal last summer. But the Kroenkes certainly seem a little naive When it comes to this club. I suspect Josh and Ivan had their work cut out when they persuaded Stan, against Stans, better instincts, to get rid of Wenger. Stan ultimately went along with it, but might regard the current situation as a mess of their own making, perhaps a little learning curve for his son, and… Read more »
Me old China “”””””What people forget is that removing wenger was never going to be the end of the action fans would need to take because we don’t have a normal club or owner””””” So if we don’t have a NORMAL CLUB OR OWNER – how can you state categorically Wenger was doing a good or bad job.? Because by definition- no one can manage too good with an abnormal owner/club structure. It seems to me – Wenger was the adhesive- keeping it all together because Emery /Raul/Edu/Hussey/Vinny cant match a washed up 70 year old even when he was… Read more »
AH
It is not Stan’s job to run the club. He doesn’t care. Why should he? He makes millions, so does everyone else. It’s all good mate.
You think Bill Gates gives a fuck if windows crash? Nah.
Until they get:
A) embarrassed.
B) hit financially.
Nothing will ever change. This isn’t about sporting greatness for the Kronke’s. It’s about cash money and on that front, they are winning every day.
Well CG is really very easy. In the final years The results under wenger were poor. The players (who he signed and coached) downed tools and were literally crying about being shit. The football got boring. Champions league football dried up. Spurs overtook is on a fraction of our budget. The press conferences became erratic in content and negative against the fans. We became literally a laughing stock of major European football. Are you really still unsure how wenger went off a cliff? We can go on… But again wenger couldn’t sack himself and in his senile self absorbed way,… Read more »
GOH
I agree, but it’s worth it in the long run for him to at least give a shit. Otherwise:
‘A) embarrassed.
B) hit financially.’
Those scenarios will become reality.
China
Fair points.
The genius of Wenger was that he made people care/frustrate/cry/exasperate etc. in equal measures
(look at graham- he is obsessed with our best ever manager)
How good must he have been to achieve that to reasonable folk?
No one cares now.
Not like then with Wenger at the helm
Post Wenger- the club is Zombie
Enjoy the Wilderness Years mind.
GOH,
Well said.
So many tickets available at the moment.
Tickets that are even sold, people aren’t going.
Empty stadium. Let them notice, no food, beers, merchandise. If we’re so shit the tourist don’t want to watch. It’s the die hards, that keep you ticking along when you’re in the shit.
I don’t get why some of u think Raul is the problem. He did his work by appointing someone he thinks can do the job. How many of u thought Arteta was going to win ahead of Emery for the arsenal job. He did what he had to do. It’s just not working. No hire is a guaranteed success.
The problem I’m having with him is his delay in putting most of us out of our misery. Most bcoz some see Emery doing a good job and others see our players to be poor.
Pie
Exactly. A football club isn’t really any different to your local pub or restaurant. If they start taking the piss, people stop going and business is hit. They improve people come back. It’s really simple. But our fans never want to be seen doing anything less than ‘classy’. Whatever that bullshit means.
Reemoving Emery or even Raul is only half the problem. The fundamental weakness at the core of Arsenal Football Club is the owner, Kroenke. Kroenke owns 100% of AFC and presided over the decline and fall during the Wenger-Gazidis. Kroenke signed off the appointment of Emery, Raul, Edu, etc and is now presiding over a re-run of the decline under the current leadership. The responsibility for the state of AFC is an American absenstee landlord with no interest in football, no interest in the culture and history of OUR club and no ambition to half the steady decline into mediocrity.… Read more »
Those who don’t go to games nose best.
I’m afraid Michael is right, the club is dead as long as this fucking Americans remains at the helm.
It is about time there needs to be another open letter to Josh. The football on offer is far from acceptable. Please do something or else.
In the middle of all these Arsenal drama ,there is an old man at FIFA chuckling and having a laugh at Emery’s expense
“It is about time there needs to be another open letter to Josh. ”
Dear Josh,
Please tell Daddy that Arsenal supporters do not want him at our club and would he be so kind as fuck off at the earliest opportunity.
Yours sincerely,
A Gooner
Julian Nagglesman is only 32 ??? Never mind then, I don’t think David Luiz and such would be listening to him much.
“Please tell Daddy that Arsenal supporters do not want him at our club”
But don’t forget to change his sheets full of american shit.
We can still have ambition and accountability with Stan in the club but exclusively if the fans are willing to step up to hold the club accountable by relentlessly making it known to the club in and outside the stadium when things aren’t good enough In game action (and empty seats) got wenger fired. A letter to Raul got pepe signed and other positive movement in the summer. The saddest part is that the club shouldn’t need to be told by its fans how to be a club. It seems really fucking obvious to most people but if those inside… Read more »
Michael
Fixed it for you mate
‘Yours sincerely,
ALL* gooners’
Let’s face the hard truth: Emery’s record is far worse than Wenger’s last five years which were abysmal. (He won three FA cups during that time though)
China1
I think the only way this club can be successful with Kroenke as owner is if we hire people who actually wants to prove themselves to the club, people who really wants to make a great impression, not Don Corleone wannabes like Don Raul. Funny enough Emery is someone that really wanted to prove himself to Arsenal and the football world.
Too bad he’s limited though
“Fixed it for you mate
‘Yours sincerely,
ALL* gooners’”
Does that include Banford?
U know the shit is hitting the roof when emery’s loyal foot soldiers are now mia