The BIG news hitting the Twitter waves last night was the Sami Mokbel story about Poch being on the out. An exit plan has been touted and the internal noise is the team is bracing for the sweet long goodbye.
If Jose Mourinho looked sexy to Don Raul, surely the idea of stealing Spurs most successful manager since 1745 would be the coup of the century?
The Spurs manager could be the Sol Campbell move of 2019. He speaks great English, his players love working with him, and he’s dragged Spurs to a European Cup final working on beans.
Arsenal would represent a bigger club. They’d back him with more money. Arsenal’s postcode means he wouldn’t need to move.
Sure, he’d have to wear a bullet proof vest. He’d not be able to walk the streets alone. He might have a pigs head thrown at him.
… but that’s show business baby.
I know it is highly unlikely we’d make a move as bold as that, but damn, there’s no coach more suited to picking up this current Arsenal squad than him ‘if’ he comes onto the market.
Players would pay attention to him, the guy has sauce and builds great relationships with players. The fact he’s kept so much talent there underpaid tells you all you need to know about his ability to create, sell, and manage a vision. His football is high octane pressing. Sure, it’s not Thomas Tuchel levels of tactical fluidity, but his football is built for the Premier League and a huge step up from Emeryball. Ultimately, if he becomes available, there’s no better coach in the world for a midseason switch.
I’d say, fuck the sabattical, come to the Arsenal and we will treat you like a king.
Fuck Spurs.
Also, I LOVE that the managers they are being linked to are Carlo, Eddie Howe and a Nagelsmann. Beautiful.
Some Spanish papers are reporting that Enrique is lining up the Arsenal job. A little more Raul, a little more the mates network. That would be so on brand for Raul. Would be £14m a year badly spent in my opinion. Let’s hope that noise is simply Enrique’s PR people desperately muddying the waters in the hope someone will bite on the rotten bait.
Someone that’s certainly making noises in the press is LTs agent. He’s making life hard for Emery because he feels affronted that he’s being used like a square peg in a bonfire. Can’t disagree if I’m honest.
That said, I struggle with LT in the Premier League. He’s very small and he doesn’t counter that with Kante like power and pace. He’s a little lost in our team and I fear he’s not a fit for the cold weather of the UK. That said, he had a great game last night for Uraguay. How can you judge any DM in an Unai Emery system playing as a 10?
What a last sentence that was. Reread it. That’s Arsenal 2019 baby.
New topic.
I think the Arsenal equivalent of finding out a relative is a racist on the internet is following someone on Twitter, thinking they’re a beast analyst for pointing out Emery’s weaknesses, then suddenly realizing this analytical prowess wasn’t there when Wenger was the coach. It’s quite spectacular that some of these data people spent 10 years ignoring the obvious, now they’re out here conducting their Advanced Analytics PHD on ousting Emery.
Staggering lack of self-awareness.
Anyway, I don’t know why I started off on that? I think I read someone complaining that the .com had not offered up congrats to Wenger on his new job ‘managing world football.’ Now, let me explain this once, and once only.
Arsenal.com people know that Wenger wanted to get back into football. They worked with him daily. They heard the stories, saw the man in action, followed his life in great detail.
Wenger, sadly, has resorted to taking a ceremonial desk job at the most corrupt organisation in the western world.
The reason the .com didn’t celebrate his job is because it would have been disrespectful.
It’d be like getting fired from your global operations role at Nike, struggling to find a job for 16 months, then having the main Nike Twitter handle congratulate you on your new job as a bin man..
Still, at least the fans would be saying, ‘HE RUNS GLOBAL BINS BRUH HE’S ON TOP OF THE WORLD.’
Right, on that note, I’m still promoting my podcast.
Listen. It’s a good one.
Unai
Yeah. Rodgers would not come to us now.
I never thought we would get a tier 1 manager after Wenger, it was a poison chalice, I was up for Brenda or Arteta.
Was happy to give Emery 12 months but clearly, it’s not working.
My worry is, the club are sticking with Emery because there isn’t any other viable options, hope I’m wrong.
Something has gone wrong for Poch, my Spuds supporting friends have been saying for last eighteen months that something was not quite right.
If Arsenal do fire Emery, our next manager is still going to be temporary appointment because we are way off having top tier squad and there many gooners still seem angry and frustrated with it all. It is going to be at least two managers from now before we regain our equilibrium and start competing again.
Whoever our next manager, he still going to be sacrificial lamb like Emery and it might as well be Poch.
jwl,
You expect the third best manager in the world to be just another sacrificial lamb?
Poch to us???
no fucking way, guy is a serial loser promises so much but never quite makes it, had the spuds as Work in progress for 5 years.
Never even won an egg cup
“Right now I’d take Arteta.”
Right now I’d take Ljunberg.
“Right now I’d take Arteta.”
Right now I’d take Ljunberg.
Right now I want to start a chain….
Right now I’d take Ljunberg
Who’s he?
Ljungberg, sorry. lol
Saints, Norwich away, Brighton, West Ham away.
What are we expecting out of these next four games? All 12 pts or Emery gets sacked? 10 points? Who knows, but narrative to me sounds like it’s headed toward us keeping him for the remainder of this season. Would not surprise me in the slightest to try and persist with this untenable situation while hoping for the best. Arsenal 2019.
Words on a Blog – yes, yes I do. Top tier coaches won’t touch Arsenal job with ten foot pole at moment, we are a mess and just launching our third youth project in a decade.
HighburyLegendNovember 19, 2019 17:03:35
Ljungberg, sorry. lol
A wise man once told me “never apologise unless you’ve actually done something wrong”
He was also a lunatic.
Jwl
If Liverpool could get klopp
They were a mess when he joined.
“Why does net spend always then get brought up when someone is pointed out to have spent 100’s of millions on a squad therefore pleading poverty is ridiculous”
My personal view is that you judge a club on net spend – i.e. an indication of their financial power and or ambition.
You judge a manager on gross spend – his net spend might only be £1 million but he could have brought in £500 million of players, pleading you’re hard done by under those circumstances is laughable.
Un na
Agree -we’re Arsenal a major club based in London and despite what people seem to think we do spend money – we may not have used money wisely in the recent past but that’s another conversation.
Un, who’s the current Klopp?
Ie, up and coming but proven, young and in our case, available right now?
Klopp wasnt tier 1 when he joined Pool (imo), he is now though.
I agree, we need our version of Klopp though, just dont know who that is??
Marc, we spend money but not elite money and that’s why I think its unlikely we get a tier 1 manager.
We’re a project for whoever comes in next regardless of club stature.
Un na naai – I am Klopp fan, I convinced myself Klopp was coming to Arsenal when he took sabbatical, but I don’t think he was elite at time but he probably is now with his performance at Liverpool. I also think Liverpool had more coherent squad than Arsenal do now. All our senior players are useless, we can’t sell them to rejuvenate squad and we relying on nineteen year olds to save season.
Unai
If you take out the £140 something million windfall Liverpool got when they sold Coutinho and consider they spent fuck all in the summer after winning the CL – worth what £100 million? – then Liverpool don’t spend anywhere near elite money either.
I agree with Unai about how we are a project for whoever comes next.
I read article a few weeks about how Huddersfield received more money from tv contract when they were relagated than Bayern and Juve received for winning their leagues last season.
Saying Arsenal are based in London and spend money poorly is not really attractive to top managers, they want squad that is ready to compete for trophies in their first season, not 3-5 year project that we are doing again.
Marc – the point is Liverpool had player they could sell for £140 million, could we even get that much for our starting eleven? Liverpool used that money to refresh squad that Klopp wanted, Arsenal are nowhere near that.
Unai Sorry mate. I don’t pretend the have the crystal ball on up and coming coaches. I just get my news from the hipsters. Can’t pretend to know anything about naggelsman and Rose that I haven’t read here. I like a couple of coaches but they don’t normally appear on my radar until they arrive in the world. I think Rodgers and Arteta have something about them. I think Lampard might as well. I love Jose even though everyone else detests him. I liked both poch and klopp at Southampton and Dortmund but they had already made big splashes at… Read more »
Jwl
I think we actually have a very good squad.
I think we do need additions but we have enough to be in second place right now, above Leicester, with a good coach. Our players are better than Leicester’s. We have more money and more pulling power.
What Leicester have is a superior coach.
“A wise man once told me “never apologise unless you’ve actually done something wrong”
He was also a lunatic.”
Was it Arsène ??
jwl
Well I think most would argue Liverpool massively lucked out on selling Coutinho – a good player but not worth anything like £140 million.
Our spend in the summer was what £125 million or so and from memory we only sold Iwobi for £35 million or so.
I’m not suggesting it’s going to be an easy job but there are only a handful of clubs who have outspent us especially if you include the money we’ve pissed up the wall by not selling when we should or could over the last few years.
Fucking hell!!!
United about to blow £200m on Haaland and Sancho in jan on top of £80m for Maguire and £50m for wan bassika.
£330m in one season!! How the fuck do they get that money they’ve been shit for nearly a decade.
Un na
ManU have to get back into CL contention otherwise their commercial revenues are going to be fucked. The Chevrolet deal is up in 2021 – remember the deal so big the guy who signed it off for Chevrolet got the bullet.
Why is everybody still talking about who is gonna be Arsenal’s next manager.
Mertesacker (who is clearly Pedro’s source at the club) has already let the cat out of the bag. It’s going to be Arteta.
They also got over £70 million for Lukaku.
Pedro
Your “staggering lack of self awareness” segment can be associated with a few of our posters on here.
“I told you all along Emery was shite. I have all the data to prove it”
Yeh, but where was all this analytical data over the past decade you plonkers? You know, when we were being slowly ground into the dust by a regime that didn’t give a fudge.
As you rightly say ” a staggering lack of self awareness” from the so called experts.
😂😂😂👏👏👏
Marc
We had £80 Aubameyang, £60m Lacazette
£35m iwobi £50m Ramsey £30m ozil £70m Sanchez, £22m Theo £18m Giroud £35m Ox
As assets In the time that klopp has arrived and made £140m on coutinho.
That’s £400m of playing talent in 3 years
Only two of which are currently playing for us- if you can call it that.
Let’s not pretend we don’t have money in our squad eh?
Our English assets along with Guendouzi, Martinelli, Bellerin and kolasinac alone are worth over £200-£250m if we are talking squad rebuilds or just fuck off Aubameyang and Lacazette. £140m for the pair. We have Martinelli and Nketiah
We can start again.
Un na
That’s my point (although I think £70 million for Ozil is borderline insanity) – we do spend although not that wisely on occasions and we’ve pissed a silly amount of money up the wall the last few years.
All that with the loss of CL revenue as well.
Man I don’t know what it is but I’m really craving a caramel sundae since I quit smoking.
Marc
No
Read back
£30m ozil £70m Sanchez
Un
Sorry miss read that one!
Marc Then we need someone who can strategise our squad and a coach who can squeeze every last drop out of what he has. How to keep them at peak fitness. How to keep them all fully charged and happy. How best to use them. When and where to use them. Tactics. Rapport. Game plans. Shape coaching. No point strategising a quality squad and handing it to emery. He’s got to go. If edu has something clever up his sleeve then great. I find it a worry that emery and Raul saw off Sven and now they closer after seeing… Read more »
Out of interest with it looking as if Xhaka has decided he wants to leave (praise the lord!) and will have his agent actively looking for opportunities what does everyone think we will get for him?
I can’t get past thinking a card board cut of Xhaka is more use so probably a good idea I’m not involved in trying to sell him!
Un
No one at least on here thinks Emery should stay.
I still think it’s hard to measure how good our squad is when Emery has been picking such a fucked up selection.
Our squad needs some work but We are totally underperforming. A Better structure and team cohesion we could be as exciting as Chelsea. but no our manager thinks you should always stifle the opponent rather than amplify your own strength.
Marc,
“No one at least on here thinks Emery should stay.”
The Harvard exiled Bamford still think so and is pretty loud about it.
My personal view is that you judge a club on net spend – i.e. an indication of their financial power and or ambition.
I disagree especially if the point being made is pitiful transfer spend can’t be able to pay decent wages and poor Poch overachieving with next to nothing. He’s spent 450 odd million euros since taking over and been able to keep his best players so none of it backs it up. He’s just underperforming now and to blame it away on funds is ridiculous imo
Valentin
Well as Bamford is currently banned and if he’s gone after Pedro personally I’m not sure he’ll be back.
Marko
You need to re read my comment.
Club’s net spend managers gross spend.
My bad you actually agreed with me.
Jose can have all the sabbatical in the universe for all I care. Sometimes his 3rd yr syndrome, imo, is pre planned as he gets a big send off. Nuno Espirito Santo is my choice if we going for PL experience. Rafa won’t be bad either. Ishola has a point. It’s too early to praise Marco Rose. Eleven games in the bundesliga isn’t enough to warrant a club like Arsenal. But Ishola, you’ve been quite negative about some of our players (torrie/Pepe) and the club so ur valid points are subjected to scrutiny. If it has to be a coach… Read more »
Internationals are so depressing.
Emery is not going anywhere until we really start to tank it.
If we are still in the mix for top 4, they will not pull the plug.
And if they do, it will likely be Freddie L. until summer….
and I hope if this happens, Freddie L really gives the team a kick up the ass and a new identity – and to learn how to fucking attack again.
You judge a club by how much success it can achieve by spending as little as possible. Can it unearth gems? Can it achieve success by using homegrown players? and the like. But you judge the manager by what he has done by spending money meanwhile keeping the players he wants to stay. And So spurs have been doing good as a club. But to my Knowledge Pochettino has spent around 400 mil and has not lost any player he didn’t want to go bar Walker and hasn’t upped his game to an elite level with Absolutely good enough players.… Read more »
We need a coach that actually knows how to get the most with what we have.
Attacking identity
Defending stability
Transition attack and defense!!!!!!
Team spirit- keep moral high in low times
Fan Morale- connect with the fans!
Coach Nuno is an interesting choice. I think he is good and I appreciate the way he gets his team to play. They come ready to fight every game…win or lose- you will not see them get clobbered to slated for slacking off.
Their mids are blue color workers… nothing too fancy but hard workers- always running and know how to find each other on the field. Great counter attacking team
Un, that’s kinda what I was getting at about coaches, seems like there is a shortage of up and coming talent.
Guns, were not getting top 4, were not in contention by any stretch. I truly believe Emery would be gone if we had the right replacement lined up.
Who knows whats going on behind the scenes… hopefully Raul an Edu are preparing for the worst- we banked on top 4 this year with spending next years budget… so, we cannot let this season get too bad.
I want Emery out… it would seem that almost any coach could do better than this a hole.
habesha, Spurs made the CL final, I would say that is pretty elite.
Marko, you disagree with net spend because it allows you make a skewed argument in favor of an untruth.
Pedro
With out checking do you know the losing finalists in 2007 or 1994?
It might make a good pub quiz question in 20 years but that’s it. It’s even relevant right now if you build on it and go on and win an actual trophy. Spur’s tanked the end of last season to make it, lost and only managed to achieve top 4 because Emery fucked it up royally.
Pochettino sacked lol no
I predict a meltdown on here when Spuds pick up Bagel-man…..
Pooch goooone
Poch to Arsenal
Woop woop. Come and join a big club son
Poch sacked’
They lose him, eriksen, vert and it’s over for spurs
‘If we’re going Portuguese, I’d have Nuno over Jose.’ WOAB, The only way forward is Jose in charge for 2 years. If Jose couldn’t paddle this wild horse scenario successfully and calm things for a young brilliant dude with high ceilings to come in and shine, believe me; nobody could. Meanwhile we must realize that our young brilliant dude can’t come in right now, it would be like asking a little boy to ride a bull(but just maybe Steven G could manage?),a brilliant charismatic shrewd veteran first, then we can talk of a Rose or a Nagelsmann or even an… Read more »
Poch been sacked.
Spurs must have someone lined up.
“They lose him, eriksen, vert and it’s over for spurs”
Well one’s gone and the others are walking out the door on a free in the summer.
Arsenal being lethargic had to do that Raul was not satisfied with the available choices for replacing Emery. There is no comparison between Poch and Emery. We can only imagine…
Reckon it’ll be Eddie Howe to replace Le Pooch.
Southgate won’t leave England and with no money big foreign names won’t go near it.
The definition of Elite is literally being superior In what you are doing. Pochettino never has proven he could win when it mattered most. Lucking your way to a Champions league final By VAR and kids choking at the last minute is not what I would call Elite. I am not saying he couldn’t become one but Right now All I see is a good manager not an Elite one. He has to win something first.
Marc, if they take Howe and he tears it up I’ll be seriously pissed!
and now he has been sacked by a club where be apparently was doing an Elite Job.
Sherwood is ready and waiting for a call
Arsenal should go all in for Pochettino.
Pochetinno has been sacked
Talk about a decisive CEO
Nagelsmann is the hot tip.
‘Talk about a decisive CEO’
Decisive or deluded.
We will find out.
Always thought Levy bought into the myth of Spurs as a massive club a little bit too much.
TR7
Your favorite ‘top-3 manager in the world’ has just been fired after a hideous run.
If Eddie Howe replaces Poch, I will also “be seriously pissed”
Habesha, I agree, hes not in the Elite bracket but hes in the best of the rest category, probably higher up the food chain than we can currently hope for.
I dont think being sacked will damage his stock too much either.
Jose??
Would rethink that comment…
Levy no mug.
He will upgrade to better boss.
They will be back stronger … unlike us..
Habesha
Don’t mug yourself off
They went past Ajax, Dortmund, inter Barca, Man City to get to the final.
It’s as tough a run as any.
He made those players elite. They won’t perform the way they have elsewhere.
Maybe Kane or Son. Not the rest.
Cesc
The decision to fire Poch is the right one just based on the numbers.
Mr Levi just showed what executive leadership is all about. Daniel Levi wasn’t going to Wengerize Poch
Get right in…..Spuds just committed suicide!
But on the other hand spuds may replace him with Allegri.. It is highly unlikely though
Cesc
It will never happen.
Marko, you disagree with net spend because it allows you make a skewed argument in favor of an untruth.
The untruth being??? A pitiful budget? Hmmmm
Im surprised at the sacking, thought he would see out the season.
I’ve always detested the way we keep bandying names of managers like they smarties. All the while, the people running Arsenal are scared shitless of change- that’s why they left Wenger in charge for so long.
Emery ought to have been sacked last week to take advantage of the international break.
Dissenter
I agree. It was over. Poch wants to move up a level. So do half the players.
Defo think Howe gets a bad rep for being English, if he was from Europe or S.America he would be at a top club.
Go on son Aaron Ramsey
If Eddie Howe replaces Poch, I will also “be seriously pissed”
I’d be delighted. People do understand that Levy has a very questionable track record with managers.
I see why people in here like Pochettino. He punches above his weight. but what I think is he likes coming from a disadvantaged position. I don’t think he has another gear. If you have him the same resources as the truly Elite coaches he couldn’t do what they Could. That’s all I see. But next year he may get another job and We will see what he is made of.
I see why people in here like Pochettino. He punches above his weight. but what I think is he likes coming from a disadvantaged position. I don’t think he has another gear. If you gave him the same resources as the truly Elite coaches he couldn’t do what they Could. That’s all I see. But next year he may get another job and We will see what he is made of.
Dissenter
Agree again. He should have been sacked last week. A 14 day period of peace in which to make your moves.
Saying that, maybe that’s exactly what they have been doing and the trigger is at the ready. Let’s hope
Levy has appointed David Pleat and Clive Allen twice each as caretaker manager, he’s also appointed little Timmy Sherwood as caretaker as well so we could well be looking at a temp manager.
On the other hand they could go for Arteta!
sorry double post.
Havesha
He took spurs to second in the league and champions league final!!!???
Imagine what he could do with a genuinely big club and budget.
Depressing that spurs might sack their manager who got them to a champions league final just last season before we let go of our severely underperforming manager because of “class”… Such a poorly run club
“Levy no mug.”
Most ridiculous statement ever posted on here. You might want to check the list of retards he appointed before Le Pooch.