50 days until we know

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International week is so miserable, especially the third one of the season. It’s like going back to the doctor for the third time after an ‘accident’ in Kavos.

‘You again?’

‘Yes’

Still, at least this one is short.

More news crept out today that the club is going to give Emery the next 4 games to sort himself out. Raul propping up Emery like a 4-year-old he’s trying to teach football to at a BBQ.

‘Come on Unai, here’s Standard Liege, put your front foot here’

I know I go back and forth on this, but my biggest fear is that Arsenal lose the next two games and Don Raul makes a stunningly bad move and hires in Jose Mourinho or his BFF Luis Enrique. Both are panic hires, they’re the go-to phone numbers for those that lack imagination. Mike Ashley and Steve Bruce were the absolute perfect match, I think Don Raul and Jose Mourinho would be a similarly noxious cocktail. On paper it makes so much sense, but you always know where it’s going.

Regardless, I think there will be a decision by the turn of the new year. That’s 50 days. £821,000 of Emery cash to go. That’s a chunky amount of time to work out what’s going on and who might be interested. Remember, they went from first interview to hire with Unai in 8 days.

The big problem is timing. There aren’t a lot of great managers out of a job at this time of the year. If you want a Marco Rose or a Paulo Fonseca, you’d have to wait until the summer. I’d imagine that even someone like Arteta will wrestle with the ethics of leaving a title-challenging team midseason. That leaves you with the grifters like Jose or Enrique. The problem with those types of hires is you can gingerly let them into your bed only to then find they’re very hard to push out.

Freddie Ljungberg makes a lot of sense on paper. The fans love him, he’s a sexy man, and he’s already the defacto communicator in the camp. My worry is that he’s been part of the current mess and he didn’t have much joy when he went to Germany. If you bet on a young pretender because you like him, you blow the chance to do that with the next hire. I love Freddie, but you know I badly want some of that Pep IP at Arsenal. If Freddie tanks December, we’ll be BEGGING for something that feels safe, which I really don’t think is the right direction.

Moving on Emery is a complicated operation. There are landmines everywhere. But before we get there, we still have to wrestle with the reality that one of our CEOs really has a thing for Unai. Remember, he brought him to the table, it’ll be hard for him to admit that he made a disgustingly bad decision because he’d have to admit that the murky world of contacts based decision-making left him naked to a very ill-informed decision. A few people have mentioned to me that they feel I shouldn’t be questioning the logic of a man that has worked at more football clubs than me. As Arrigo Saachi once said, you don’t need to have been a horse to be a jockey. If anyone in this godforsaken international week flavored week wants to sit up here and tell me that hiring Emery was defendable, I am here, sitting by my laptop, all day. If you don’t like to keyboard-warrior, here are some refresher notes.

Emery couldn’t speak English. He had no record of building resolute defences. He had a bad record with big-name players. His football across all his clubs has been described as negative. He is known for blowing leads. HE STILL CANNOT SPEAK ENGLISH.

This guy, according to Raul, was a bigger draw for him than Ralph Rangnick and Massimiliano Allegri. I think even a horse would confidently say that the lack of diligence on this one is a crime against football. The type of people who don’t want to talk about how a club should be run because they’d impinge on someone else’s expertise are the same type that say they don’t like transfers. Absolute traitors to the football community.

I digress. Raul is going to give Emery all the patience he can, because in the same way I thought Nik B could be a world-class striker, he still thinks Emery can deliver us Champions League football.

So let’s see what comes next.

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  1. Champagne charlie

    “Maybe because the season hasn’t ended, declaring us worse off already is a bit premature. Our performances were also pretty dodgy last season, i say we are static not worse off.“

    It’s our worst start to a league campaign in 37 years. Nothing static about it. How you can brazenly ignore such a thing is questionable at best.

    Also, that’s strictly talking results and points accumulated, our performances have been atrocious, utterly atrocious – with no suggestion of there being any upturn coming.

    Unless you’d care to suggest what you’ve seen from our opening dozen league games that makes you think we’re about to turn a corner and fly up the table?

  2. Batistuta

    Lolz mate you either argue the lists or you don’t , it’s quite simple really….You plead player poverty and i bring out the players for comparisons… Now do the honours and tell us how those defences are better then we’ll move on to other positions yea…

  3. Champagne charlie

    “They never want to talk about our actual players or the about the quality of these players relative to their counterparts at those six clubs.“

    Maybe because this is an entirely subjective argument and would go nowhere at all.

    You’d say player X is mint, most would say you’re chatting shit, then that would be the entirety of it.

  4. Batistuta

    Receeding

    Na that’s not it, to claim people are only upset because we’ve not been our usual flat track bully selves is just plain wrong…

    People are upset because like Charlie just stated, it’s our worse start in a long long time after we went and spent more than a lot of teams….

    We understood the poor away record last season, we understood the late season collapse(least i did), Arsenal fans are the most patient fan base in the world to be fair so to see a very huge number of fans dissatisfied at the same time means something is definitely not right. Not the performances and definitely not the results…

    Not sure we need to wait till the season is over to judge whether or not it’s not working mate

  5. Batistuta

    Batshuayi, Giroud, Abraham(1st top flight season)

    Rashford(never hit doubles in the league), Martial, Greenwood

    Kane, Son

    Aubameyang(golden boot winner), Lacazette, Martinelli(looks the real deal too)

    Vardy, Iheanacho, Ayoze Perez

    Raul Jiminez, Patrick Crutone

    Christian Benteke, Jordan Ayew

    No clue who the Sheffield forwards are by the way

    Tosun, Calvert-Lewin

    Sebastian Haller

    Those are some of the foward options of the teams in and around us by the way

  6. Bamford10

    Batistuta

    I can’t get into that now, as I’m at work. I’ll try to reply to what you’ve said there later. Maybe Ishola, Paulinho, Receding or some other non-aligned or free-thinking poster can reply to you about that in the meantime. Cheers.

  7. salpardisenyc

    Gunz

    In the immortal words of Keef

    “Eltons an old bitch… his writing is limited to songs about dead blondes.”

    And some say there getting bullied on here.

  8. Guns of Hackney

    Sal

    Ha ha ha…I love the stones and Elton and never heard that quote before. Classy.

    Still, a really good film so far. Like Grease for now.

  9. Valentin

    Anybody knows another coaching training methodologies style of play that are currently getting traction?
    A few years ago everybody moved to Gegen-pressing, now people are moving away from it. Difficult to implement, physically taxing, easy to bypass if one players is out of form or do not follow the instructions.
    It would be good if Arsenal could move ahead of the pack instead of behind the curve.

  10. Guns of Hackney

    Val

    Arsenal should try actually just running first. Forget styles and systems…good old fashioned running might be a start.

  11. Chika

    Bumford

    “I can’t get into that now, as I’m at work. I’ll try to reply to what you’ve said there later. Maybe Ishola, Paulinho, Receding or some other non-aligned or free-thinking poster can reply to you about that in the meantime. Cheers.”

    lol The Freethinkers. Finally, a name.
    ____________________

    Batistuta, honestly, you’re doing quite a great job with player compilation/comparison but seriously I don’t think you should bother yourself. Player poverty is clearly a silly myth.

  12. Champagne charlie

    Bless, “free thinking” he says… after asking Marko to produce a list of managers for him to rate and copy/pasting literally anyone he can to claim his argument sound.

    Must be some of that nuanced stuff that bypasses most on here.

  13. Champagne charlie

    Bati

    You’re setting yourself up for one almighty head-off-the-wall moment mate, there’s no reasoning with him.

    Not once have I ever seen him yield his pov to anything, not once. There’s a reason he has the most readily available absurd views on here, and his own Le Grove historical entry marked Neymargate.

  14. Words on a Blog

    Batistuta,

    I’ve given up.

    Champagne Charlie has given up.

    Marc has given up.

    Marko has given up.

    Dissenter has given up.

    China1 has given up.

    BennyD has given up.

    Many, many other posters have given up, or resort to name-calling.

    Honestly, it’s not worth engaging – for your own piece of mind and sanity.

  15. Graham62

    Words

    What are we giving up on exactly?

    If it’s Emery, I’ve also “given up”.

    If it’s B10, no point going into that one.

    That’s the way he wants to play it.

  16. Marko

    Look at this stage Bamford’s arguments don’t come from any sort of logical place and when you remember at the end of the day he’s doing it not because he actually backs Emery but instead it stems from a place of wanting to always be right you can’t really take it that seriously. He’s a pariah

  17. Words on a Blog

    Graham62,

    Of course it’s B10, our very own resident Le Grove “protagonist.”

    I have to say that, for all his garbled English, poor communication and confused thinking, Emery’s much easier to understand than the big bad Bam.

  18. Batistuta

    😁😁😁 words

    That’s quite a list you’ve got there… When he first started with this POV, i kinda did say he was trolling but i decided if he could actually argue the facts then I’d be up for that especially with the player poverty line that gets thrown around….

  19. Champagne charlie

    I feel for him at this very moment though because one glance at the number of comments referencing him is going to leave the lad rock hard, and he’s teaching a bunch of teenagers so that’s a dangerous look.

    Stay seated Banford.

  20. salpardisenyc

    Speaking for myself here but i’m over the Bamford drama, its dull as shit and the bulk commentary.

    Now he’s leveling claims of cyber bullying against fellow Le Grovers with opposing views after years of sending out toxic filled posts laced with self grandiosity. Labelling others whatever his online urban dictionary could muster, which typically amounted to ‘dipshit’ or ‘cunt’ back when he was parroting gambon. Real league one level insults.

    Hey Bamford how about we save the bullying claims for those truly in need, for instance those afflicted on the playground. Last time I checked it was a fucking choice to sign on and Le Grove.

  21. TR7

    Sad to see Le Grove degrade to Le Bamford. By now it should have been beneath most of you to respond to his vapid,illogical and hollow posts but sadly it isn’t.

  22. Unai

    Bamford

    Debating weather Emery is the right man for the job seems futile, seems obvious that the players either dont understand or dont buy into him or his style, you only need to watch to know this.

    Information gathering after 18 months is code for ‘I’m in over my head’

    As well regarded as Emery is, sometimes you just dont fit the environment, I’ve been there myself in my career, and I think that’s where Emery is now.

    It’s not working and it doesn’t look like improving any time soon, time to cut our losses and move on.

  23. Champagne charlie

    Do gods work where I can Bob haha.

    Where did folk land on O’Leary potentially joining the cronies on the board?

    What do we make of Raul flexing his DeVito-esque muscles too, leaves me a bit curious that he’s kind of ’closed-shop’ about the status quo. Does that say what everyone thinks about the board currently (soft as shit)?

  24. Marko

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4338450/amp/Arsenal-quotes-wrong-board-been.html

    Sir Chips Keswick on Wenger:
    “If he has a plan we back it, if he doesn’t have a plan we keep quiet.”

    Sir CK: “Ivan is doing a fantastic and first class job leading the development of this club across every aspect of its operations and is representing it in the Premier League, the European Club Association and UEFA level. We are fortunate to have him as our CEO and I am very grateful that he does as much as he does.”

    Ultimately, though, perhaps the two most significant moment came at the end. The first was a question from a woman in the crowd. Sir Chips, in an utterly dismissive manner, simply stated ‘thank you for your statement’, before moving on, never even hinting at a possible addressing of the question. The second was another statement from Sir Chips, when asked about Stan Kroenke. As the meeting is wrapped up swiftly, as if to hurry the pesky ‘peasants’, as one member stated, out of the building, Sir Chips stated that if members wanted know what Kroenke’s feelings on the club, they should read The Daily Telegraph.

    Charles in my opinion if Sir Chips wants Dave O’Leary on the board because it’s him I wouldn’t because he’s shown to be a useless cunt only interested in self preservation. Part of the old useless guard that we don’t need at the club. I’m talking Sir Chips

  25. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Sir Chips is a bellend of epic proportions as far as I’m concerned.

    I just feel fresh blood on the board is a curious topic, especially with the (albeit simple) idea O’Leary would be more in touch with modern Arsenal.

    If not him, and I’ve no affinity, then who might you like to see get a seat at the table?

    David Seaman is perhaps the sort of figure that could help modernise the board a bit, can’t imagine he’s an offensive character in the same way an Adams might be perceived.

  26. Marko

    Charles I’m absolutely all for getting rid of all those fuddy duddy cunts from the board and replacing them with whoever Petit, Parlour, Adams anyone who actually has affinity and feelings towards the club. But anyone Sir Chips wants i wouldn’t touch. If anything it looks like a power grab or attempt to keep power and influence on the board.

  27. Graham62

    Put Wrighty on the board.

    Now that would be interesting.

    I’m with you Marko on this( see we can be compatible). Sir Chips is a tosser and should have been sent to the tower following that AGM.

  28. Bob N16

    Can’t honestly see how O’Leary’s appointment to the board would make any difference. Sanhelli running things, not sure board is anything but an outdated old boys club. Kroenke owns AFC, Sanhelli, Raul and the guy beginning with V run it, board not relevant.

  29. Pedro

    CC, I’m game to lower the age of the board… I know David O’leary is keen to make amends for his past midemeanors, I’m just not sure how elite a mind he is… still, gotta be sharper than Chips!

  30. Marko

    not sure board is anything but an outdated old boys club.

    I mean that’s the thing as well if it’s becoming more and more obsolete then why add another body to it.

  31. James wood

    I am in theWilliam Harvey hospital .Ashford Kent.
    I have been on the Ward 3 days Le grove has helped.

    The inner ear infection has spread to my Cranium the Antibiotics
    have to be cultured to suit the individual patient if the normal general
    antibiotics don’t work.
    Morphine is only just alleviating the intense pain.
    This is all 100% true.
    But Bamford disease was mentioned.

  32. Champagne charlie

    Bob
    Tend to agree, guess I look at it more with a hopeful gaze in terms of thinking O’Leary would be a step toward making it less of a collection of dusty toffs and more a representative body of Arsenal FC.

    One that maybe, just maybe, keep things aimed the right direction in terms of ambition etc

    Pedro
    Haha yea, don’t think he’d have much trouble usurping Chips intellect. He’s the plebs pleb.

  33. Marc

    What about Flamini for the board – isn’t he supposed to have this business in chemicals that’s supposed to be out of this world.

    You need people who have a more rounded view about a club.

  34. Champagne charlie

    Marc

    He’s French mate, and wildly successful, can’t think of a more unlikely candidate given the cucks currently downing club Cognac.

  35. Champagne charlie

    Reckon we’ll see a sub-60 year old white Brit first, then in a decade we might branch out to continental European white male, then in 50 years a dark skinned fellow.

    Classenal after all.

  36. Valentin

    The role of the football consultant is to explain in Layman’s term to the board the football side of the club management. His role is also to push the board to ask the tough but correct questions. He could also act as sounding board to confirm or contradict from a point of authority the executives presenting theirnviews. So obviously having been a manager and being able to speak eloquently is a plus.

    Sir Chips may be a relic better forgotten in cupboard, but the need for a specialist football consultant remains. None of the current board would have a clue what to ask Raul.

    I don’t particularly like David O’Leary, but at least he has the qualifications for the role. He had some success as manager and he can string an English sentence. Bringing a player like Wrighty (and I love him to pieces) and Tony Adams (Please no) would be a redundant move. Neither could explain to the board what they need to know.

    According to the reports, Raul issue is not with David O’Leary himself but with the concept of creating a new role within the board. This is exactly the opposite of good governance for a company. An executive who decide the composition of the board tasked to supervised him.

  37. DaleDaGooner

    Bamford, the resident clown of Le Grove……this mug has been getting on everyone’s nerves since I can remember. I miss the good old days of Le Grove…..some real gem have moved on since Bumford’s arrival on the scene.

  38. DaleDaGooner

    What about Flamini for the board – isn’t he supposed to have this business in chemicals that’s supposed to be out of this world.

    I don’t know why i chuckled when i read this…lol…Chemical Flami

  39. bennydevito

    Words on a BlogNovember 14, 2019    16:42:30

    Batistuta,

    I’ve given up.

    Champagne Charlie has given up.

    Marc has given up.

    Marko has given up.

    Dissenter has given up.

    China1 has given up.

    BennyD has given up.

    Many, many other posters have given up, or resort to name-calling.

    Honestly, it’s not worth engaging – for your own piece of mind and sanity.

    >>>>>>

    Lol! I don’t mind Bamford tbh, he’s pretty harmless compared to many of the abusive fouls mouthed far rights that hang out in here.

    People should just scroll past and ignore him if they’re that bothered.

    TR7November 14, 2019    17:27:53

    Sad to see Le Grove degrade to Le Bamford. By now it should have been beneath most of you to respond to his vapid,illogical and hollow posts but sadly it isn’t.

    >>>>>>

    There are far worse on here who get away with all sorts. Bamford is actually one of the better posters here even if he is way off about Emery.

    PedroNovember 14, 2019    18:05:26

    TR7, I think you are right.

    Lowers the tone. Needs to be addressed

    >>>>>

    Lowers the tone? Are you actually kidding me? When posters like Un nai, Normski , CG and Martinellishead are allowed to get away with non stop abuse and racism?

    Jesus.

  40. CG

    Bob N16

    “””””Kroenke owns AFC, Sanhelli, Raul and the guy beginning with V run it, board not relevant”””””

    Then we are in the deep doo doo!

    These Two dopes + absentee owner= Trouble.

    (Next year accounts will be fun.)

    Expect resignations from the board- Ken Friar and SCK – if O Leary dont get a voice in the decision making process.

    rest assured -they wont be on the Titanic when it runs aground.

  41. Spanishdave

    With all this unrest and clown management ,some players will certainly move on.
    So not only do we need a new manager we will need midfield replacements in January.
    A new manager will need to be installed in time to influence the choice of player he wants.
    This state of limbo is going to damage the club for some while.
    David O Leary is that the best we can do?

  42. Bob N16

    CG, what purpose has the board? In the old days they had a financial stake, these days surely it’s symbolic. I just don’t see how they influence anything.

  43. Unai

    Benny

    “Lowers the tone? Are you actually kidding me? When posters like Un nai, Normski , CG and Martinellishead are allowed to get away with non stop abuse and racism?”

    Basically this, I don’t post often but used to read daily and really can understand why this goes unchecked where relitavly harmless posters get criticised or banned.

    One of the reasons I don’t read as often as i did.

  44. jwl

    I agree with bennydevito, Bamford10 is a know it all but otherwise harmless, there a bunch of other commentators who write way worse things than Bamford.

    What I don’t understand is why people don’t ignore one another, if you know a certain poster winds you up, skip past their comments. This isn’t difficult.

  45. CG

    Bob n16

    “”””CG, what purpose has the board? In the old days they had a financial stake, these days surely it’s symbolic. I just don’t see how they influence anything.””””

    Arsenal was the best run club in the world when we had a proper board of directors. ( pre KSE)

    A proper Board of directors are paramount in any successful company.
    eg
    Hillwoods/Fizman/ Dein.

    All AFC fans,

    When men of such latent limited ability ( raul and vinny ) are running a club as prestigious as Arsenal- you dont need to be Einstein to tell you- we are heading for the rocks.

    and you know what -They will be the first out of the door – when the’ bailiffs’ come knocking’

    100% guaranteed!

    (Raul is Peter Risdale reincarnated)

  46. Graham62

    As it stands, the footballing fingers are, quite rightly, pointing at Emery but we all know that the real reasons for our predicament have been building for years. Owner/ BoD/ Wenger/ Gazidis.

    Emery is merely the tip of the iceberg.