Don Raul and Edu had a little rethink after their car crash leak to Ornstein about the fans being ‘noise’ bitches.
Their new angle is a little more nuanced, a little more ‘Arsenal class.’
“We are as disappointed as everyone else with both our results and performances at this stage of the season. We share the frustration with our fans, Unai, players and all our staff as they are not at the level we want or expect.
“Things need to improve to meet our objectives for the season, and we firmly believe Unai is the right man for the job, together with the backroom team we have in place.
“We are all working intensively behind the scenes to turn things around and are confident we will.
“We never take our fantastic support for granted. We hope we can all stick together and get behind the team in this challenging period, as together we are stronger.”
Take this intel as you will, the club absolutely know what a garbage fire the Unai Emery regime is. They do not believe the club is on the path to progress. They see it as we do. They know it’s highly unlikely his tenure can be saved. They are football people, they know in far more detail than you what’s going on, and it’s not pretty.
The above statement backs the manager, because at this point, there’s no choice. They can’t come out and call him a joke and explain how they’re going to replace him shortly, that my friends would be worse PR than telling the fans they are ‘noisy ass hoes.’
What you need to look for in situations like these are the stories that enter the media seemingly out of nowhere. We’ve already had The Times report on Raul’s dinner with Jose. That wasn’t an accident. It was a gross mistake, the culinary equivalent of waking up in bed with a damp box of donner kebab on your chest with Wayne Rooney licking your chili sauce stained fingers. Rest assured, that story was planted to let the fans know that ‘ideas’ are under consideration.
Yesterday, in part two of #FreshLeaks we had a hit of ‘Arsenal still interested in Arteta.’ The source appears to be The Sun and it seems a little too specific to be a clickbait job.
The message is either an accidental leak from the club (which I doubt), a trial balloon to see what the fans think after Unai ‘safe hands’ Emery failed spectacularly, or it’s a message to Arteta to smoke him out about the renewed interest. I certainly don’t believe it’s come from Arteta’s camp, because I doubt he has a camp at this stage of his coaching career. I also don’t think he’d want to make Pep look a chump for the second time running (especially during a slump), that might be a death blow to his fledgling coaching career at City. Remember, Arsenal disrupted his relationship with Pep last time when they flaked on him after bringing him to the final stages of negotiations. I also don’t think City would brief against a highly rated member of their own staff.
With the story rebubbling, I thought it might be a good opportunity to reassert my passion for a hire of his ilk.
Arsenal need a vision of football the fans can get behind. We’re not Allegri, Conte or Mourinho types. We’re a Wengerball club whether we like it or not, and that is built on foundations of exciting possession-based football. We should be hiring someone that can deliver that to the fans.
If Arsenal were a tech start-up, we’d be prying the best product visionaries from the best places. You can either try your luck with a Steve Jobs (I’m in the 2000s Apple, obvs), which is a fruitless/expensive task, or you steal one of his underlings, like Tony Fadell (iPod VP, left to work with a VC to bring Nest to life). That’s what the big boys do. They find people with less of a name, that have good reputations, and most importantly, the blueprints for success. If you can get 50% of a legendary name’s stardust, you are on your way.
Arteta has been with Pep during two of the most successful seasons ever witnessed in the Premier League. Manchester City found new levels of brilliance. Their attacking football has been a thing of beauty, fast, intricate and devastating. Their movement off the ball is exceptional, as a team, they’re winning the league on 98 points, making the least tackles in the league. They use a positional play on the pitch to force mistakes, think of the smarts needed to teach footballers how to do that. They play a brand of cognitive football we could only dream of (read).
Why wouldn’t you want the number two of the City winning machine at Arsenal?
Arteta is on the record stating the type of football he wants to play. This from the Arsenal Magazine in 2016.
“My philosophy will be clear,”
“I want the football to be expressive, entertaining. I cannot have a concept of football where everything is based on the opposition.
“We have to dictate the game, we have to be the ones taking the initiative, and we have to entertain the people coming to watch us. I’m 100 percent convinced of those things, and I think I could do it.”
“You can have an idea of a system, but you need to be able to transform it depending on the players you have – how much pace you have upfront, how technical your team is, what types of risk you can take and whether your players are ready to take those risks.
He also talks about having players 150% committed to the cause, how he admires Pep’s drive to look to the future of where the game is going, and how he looked up to way his PSG captain Poch built love with players. That was an exciting glimpse into his mind in 2016, imagine how his ideas have developed since?
This is a player that can speak at least 4 languages, including scouser. He’s an excellent communicator. It’s also worth noting that he didn’t shame us as captain, which is a small thing, but it shows he has values. He did a very good job for us as his career declined. We were still a CL team under his watch, whatever you think of his ability at the time, he helped stabilise us during a rough period that involved Andre Santos.
He has an excellent reputation at City for being an innovator, a mentor, and a brilliant coach. Pep widely credited his assistant for developing Raheem Sterling. Players and staff constantly talk about his influence and impact on their careers.
This is Pep in October.
“He has an incredible work ethic, and he has a special talent to analyse what happens, and to find the solutions, and we talk a lot about what he believes and feels and so on,”
“He’s an incredible human being, with incredible values about what it means in the locker room and to be together, and he is already an incredible manager and he’ll have incredible success in his future.”
Fernandinho:
“For me, especially Mikel Arteta, because he played in the same position as I play. So sometimes I have private chats with him to correct some positioning or something that is wrong.
Delph, who credited him with extending his career at City.
“I think Mikel would be a fantastic manager. When the rumours were circulating about him leaving, I was thinking ‘please don’t!’ We get on very well as do all the players and staff. We’ve got a great energy and that energy is similar to what we’ve got here with England.”
The PR wins rack up for a coach that Wenger, Poch and Pep competed for when he retired.
Some say he should go to a lesser club first, but why would you? This is Pep on Arteta.
“I’m pretty sure [he’ll succeed me]. He will have success,”
Go to Newcastle to prove to Barry on Twitter you have balls? Please. Man moved to Glasgow for his career, that’s all you need to know about his character.
With Arteta, we’d be hiring in Manchester City IP, with a player that knows and loves The Arsenal. Raul and Edu could be kingmakers, just like the Barca execs were with Pep G. The experience he lacks could be covered by a more experienced assistant and first-team coach.
Would he make mistakes? Absolutely. Would it take time to get things right? You are damn right. Would it be worth it if he succeeded? 100%.
Imagine being exciting by Arsenal again?
A lot of people like to talk up the failures of career assistants. Arteta is still only 37 years old. He’s punching well above his weight for where he is in his career. He is clearly special, an obsessive, someone desperate to succeed. He is in an elite category for young coaches. I do not think this is the same as Mike Phelan making a play for a first-team coach role at Derby.
We tried safe and by the book, it failed in spectacular fashion, like I predicted. ‘Safe’ isn’t a strategy. It’s cowardice. Why not try something with a bit of vision? Hire in a manager who is a bit of an unknown. At the very worst, we’ll be playing a coherent style of football, at best, we might have landed the next big name in world football.
We don’t need a has-been manager taking us to top 4 if that’s the ceiling. We need to find a coach that can work with the tools he’s given and coach our team into the future.
That could be Arteta. I think it’s a far more palatable option than the other managers on offer. The risk is lower than people think, and if it’s between the names on offer currently, it’s Arteta all day for me.
Right, that’s my piece, I’m running for my pelter shelter, see you in the comments.
P.S. Auba, fuck the noise bitches. The fans love you. Chin up, you’re our best player. x
I sometimes wonder if Pedro realize that Arteta has spent most of his england career at Everton, not at Arsenal… Nevermind. (lol)
Peanuts&monkeys
I agree.
“Sticking around with Emery will be Arsenal’s second biggest mistake after sticking around with Wenger after 8-2”
Bloody hell, August 28th, 2011.
Seems like yesterday.
Marko
Thoughts on Enrique? Reeks of contacts rubbish for me, he’s barely done any good work aside of Barcelona which is a special case in its own…His time at Roma was horrible….Would be a very underwhelming choice, another “anyone but” type of manager…
Batistuta some say it’s already too late. Yesterday excuses were already on offer for the yet to be appointed successor. If you are changing him to then say “well he has already messed everything up” later then I don’t see the point. I personally believe he can salvage this season and then be on his way. I don’t want just anyone so that later I will be told how the damage Emery did was terminal and unsalvageable. Wait and get someone for the long term with a clear plan in mind or appoint someone to start building now and write… Read more »
Valentin is absolutely spot on in his earlier post; sticking with Emery is only prolonging the inevitable and will leave us with virtually no chance of getting top 4 being 9 points away already. If we leave things until January we will have to win virtually every match for the rest of the season whilst relying on Chelsea and Leicester losing 3 or 4 matches and Spurs and Utd staying behind us. It’s extremely unlikely. It’s looking like we will be relying on trying to win the EL once more to get back to the CL but as we saw… Read more »
cannot see emery here past January. its the transfer window for players, so maybe a more fitting time.
The results will not get better, except maybe the fa.cup or Europa as the players can get up for them.
players are demotivated in the premier league…if it gets worse we could drop to a really embarrassing position.
On the positive side…in 8 weeks we could have a new boss and say 3 players out and a couple in…
No! No! No! to all these so called fantasy managers.
If it was a straight choice between Arteta and Mourinho, it would have to be Arteta, all day long. Just too much baggage and too much bad history with JM.
Personally, I would like Freddie to take over right now. Pedro’s inside take on Freddie not being up to scratch doesn’t worry me one jot.
“Ivan is the real deal” didn’t work out too well did it.
Let’s give it to FL right now.
Bati he wouldn’t be my first choice but I’d back him if he got the job mainly because Raul wanted him over Emery originally (reportedly) and he has earned the right to be trusted given the past summer imo. I also don’t understand why he gets so much shit for having a contacts approach I really don’t. Contacts got us Pepe and contacts got us Saliba and Martinelli this past summer. Oh and he was also strongly linked with Chelsea as well so I wouldn’t completely disregard his appointment. When you get people crying out for Howe and making a… Read more »
Receeding If we got in a new manager now, the mandate will be same, prove the results and get us top4 and maybe the Europa league as a cherry on top…The teams above is aren’t invincible so we can still catch up with them except City and Pool. Only excuse new guy might be allowed is that he didn’t have enough time with the squad which is why we can’t do any rookie managers at this point in time. Like that you still think Emery can turn it around but seen enough to know he won’t, if he does then… Read more »
Why exactly do you want to give it to Freddie Graham?
(This should be good)
Who’s Freddie Graham ??
Marko
I don’t know man, just never really convinced me as a manager but if he came and hit the ground running then wouldn’t have any complaints
HighburyL,
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article235672652.html
Freddie Graham is an arsonist from Kansas City.
Sounds like an A,Eric an Mourinho, only a little less well paid and with a criminal record.
*American Mourinho
alex cutterNovember 12, 2019 15:55:52
“It just goes to
Show that Bamford positions himself to
Maximise the potential attention he will get through his posts rather than actually having any real belief in what he’s saying.He’s just an attention seeking machine.”Just shut up already. What fuck is wrong with you?
Cutter!!! How are you man? You been ok?
I’m thinking maybe you’re Bamford’s alter ego?
In all seriousness how are you health wise? I’m not going to get locked in with you until I hear you are ok
Thinking of you man. Thoughts and prayers
Xx
Well, you’ve made a convincing case that Arteta is a good prospect. On paper. But paper potential doesn’t always survive the transition to reality, where managing involves a lot more skills than your coaching ability. In short, is he a Lampard or a Solskjaer? At least with Lampard, they had a chance to see what he could do, and he made his case. Arteta is a completely unknown quantity at the top level. He may figure once bitten twice shy and prefer to stay where he is, with the prospect of promotion in the future. Sounds like a better bet… Read more »
“Arteta is a completely unknown quantity at the top level. ”
Yes but what about all those success alongside the greatest coach the world has ever known ??? lol
Allegri is still my preferred first choice but if we are going to go left field and gamble on a young fresh idea approach then it’s Naglesman….. I just hope that his English is of a good standard.. If it isn’t then PV4 for me ahead of Arteta.
Maybe just me but would take Gerrard over Arteta…Just don’t get this clamour for a non-manager
Ten Haag is the dream though
The doubt that upper management may have with Freddie is that he may be tainted by association in the eyes of the players. Also despite his success with the U23, his two stints as assistant managers have not be very successful. With his grumpy and snappy attitude, that must set alarm ringing against his appointment as care taker role. Whoever is the new headcoach will need to lift them up pretty quickly. Articulate a proper plan comprehensible by everybody and that the senior players will want to follow. In view of Aubameyang message (still unclear if it is a true… Read more »
In short, is he a Lampard or a Solskjaer?
Technically speaking as of right now he’s neither he’s a Gary Neville. Ole and Frank had managerial experience in Malmo, Cardiff and Derby for example. Mikel like Gary Neville and Henry had zero experience before getting big jobs and we know how they worked out. A stretch to claim he’d be any sort of guarantee
Marko As it stands it is the logical solution. Give him the chance to show what he can do. Shite it can’t get any worse. His communication is top notch. He is respected by the players and he understands what we want and expect. Top 4 is out of the question now. Even its for an interim period, anythings better than the current shambles. Tell me Marko, why so sceptical? Why shouldn’t we give him a chance? He’s more Arsenal than Arteta and, significantly, he’s a winner and a legend. Also he’d be the best looking manager in the league.… Read more »
“I personally believe he can salvage this season and then be on his way. I don’t want just anyone so that later I will be told how the damage Emery did was terminal and unsalvageable.“
What gives you any impression he can salvage this season? And what doe you consider a savaged season?
The following is from twitter illustrating matters as they stand:
“If 4th place requires 75 points [average], Arsenal would need 58 points from their remaining 26 games.
That’s an average of 2.23 points per game, equivalent to an 85 point season. “
How the fudge do you know that Freddie is snappy and grumpy with the players?
Do you socialize with him or something?
I was 70/30 in favour of Arteta last summer, Rodgers was my number 1 although I’m nowhere near as sold as you Pedro and to be honest, I’ve kinda forgotten about him since. As things stand though I’d take Mark Hughes as manager, just want Emery gone! Today’s post doesn’t sell Arteta to me, I just dont buy into the Pep, City guff, I mean take the names out of the story and it could be about any current number 2 in world football but were now in ‘anything is better than this’ territory so what do we have to… Read more »
Freddie’s been grumpy and snappy ever since he started wearing those Calvin Klein boxer shorts…..way too tight for him.
Tell me Marko, why so sceptical? As it stands it is the logical solution…His communication is top notch. He is respected by the players and he understands what we want and expect…Also he’d be the best looking manager in the league. I don’t think any of that qualifies as logical or enough to be manager. As I suspected zero substance just faff to what you say. How the fudge do you know that Freddie is snappy and grumpy with the players?Do you socialize with him or something? One could ask how you know those other things about Freddie but outside… Read more »
G62, agreed. All reports coming from our youth players is that they love Freddie.
Freddie temporarily then go for Ten Hag. If not Nuno Santo.
Arteta
Vieira
Allegri
No to Mourinho or Benitez.
MarkoNovember 12, 2019 18:03:08
Tell me Marko, why so sceptical?
As it stands it is the logical solution
😂
After his space exploration discussions this week, his love for nihilism/aversion to emotion and now this I’m starting to suspect Marko is a Vulcan 🖖
Tell me Marko, why so sceptical?
Why….so……sceptical???
Let’s put a smile on that face
It was a gross mistake, the culinary equivalent of waking up in bed with a damp box of donner kebab on your chest with Wayne Rooney licking your chili sauce stained fingers. Rest assured, that story was planted to let the fans know that ‘ideas’ are under consideration.
😂
We’ve all been there
Mine looked more like Steve Orgrizovic.
Quality pepper he was by the way. Old skool
Who said that Emery “can salvage the season”?
Whoever said this needs to see a shrink.
Quality keeper that should have said.
Arteta is going to look even more appealing now but doesn’t make him the right choice just because he would be willing to come and available.
Arteta still is untested at the top level.
Are we so undeserving and undesirable that we need to take a complete novice?
Even if he has been learning from Pep all this time?
Leeds
Many choices out there who’d have this club purring, biggest question for me is how many of those potentials are on Raul’s hit list to replace Emery.
Didn’t Ian Wright break Ogrizsovics nose in a challenge for the ball, if not someone else did, his nose was bent three ways
Watched a bit of the Monchengladbach game on Sunday and looking at that and their results recently I’m all for Marco Rose. Interim coach until the summer then go for him.
Pep and zidane were I tested at top level u til they weren’t
They were impressive enough to be thought of highly
Chris
I think he did. He almost broke Peter schmeichel’s ankle too in 97
Anyone remember the Robbie Fowler penalty at Highbury? He issued deliberately!! Fucking idolised Robbie Fowler as youngster.
Nothing to do with team allegiance but just the way he played
He should have come to arsenal
Houllier runied him
His autobiography is the mutt’s nuts
Is Arteta the right choice?
Who knows.
But, with us highly likely to be tanking the top 4, this may be the perfect time to go for an Arteta-style experiment.
Paulinho
“. Also if he had played Ramsey earlier on in the season he probably wouldn’t have been fit to drop those master class CM performances around March.”
Yeah , the return of Ozil supplemented by a couple of surprisingly disciplined (though very good) performances by Ramsey , managed to save Emery’s season last time round.
Unfortunately for Emery , he never learnt his lesson and repeated the very same mistakes this season, though I’m afraid the hole is way too deep this season for Ozil to come to his rescue again.
Fucking quiet on here
When is Bamford going to awake firm his slumber and continue his self crucifixion?
Un do you mean when Fowler went over but tried to tell the ref it was no pen? I remember, was gutted we lost that game, we couldn’t buy a win against Liverpool in the mid 90s, a bit like now really.
But, with us highly likely to be tanking the top 4, this may be the perfect time to go for an Arteta-style experiment
Words
Yes!!
You’re on the pulse man
“How the fudge do you know that Freddie is snappy and grumpy with the players?
Do you socialize with him or something?”
Graham
Valentin knows everything.
Chris
Yeaaah
Seaman brought him down. No doubt. He obviously felt bad about it though. By today’s standards it’s a stone wall.
He still missed and claimed it was on purpose.
Arteta
““My philosophy will be clear,”
“I want the football to be expressive, entertaining. I cannot have a concept of football where everything is based on the opposition.
“We have to dictate the game, we have to be the ones taking the initiative, and we have to entertain the people coming to watch us. I’m 100 percent convinced of those things, and I think I could do it.”
Music to my ears , not one mention of pressing , intensity , work, work and more work .
Football that is expressive and entertaining ….yes please.
And of course successful.
I’ve been reading the comments today and I want Arteta.
Converted.
Leeds, I’d take him in January if he could move. Far more enticing than the others on offer.
I’m with Chris, Marco Rose looks the part.
Bit of a question mark over whether some of those ideas translate when they move out of their domestic league. Hassenhutl not had a great time, though he was moved on by Rangnick I believe.
If Artera comes on board the AKB term will get confusing 😆
‘Ishola – TR7 asked me (like he often does) to get me to be committal about something if I’m praising something he doesn’t like or whatever’ Hahaha, there is no ulterior motive. I remember you not ruling out a title challenge if Ramsey, Welbeck, Bellerin etc. stayed fit till end of the season. I thought that was a very bold claim because we looked far from.convincing even during our unbeaten run, so I merely sought a reconfirmation from you. I know you have been consistent on Emery right from the beginning even though it’s high time you changed your stand.… Read more »
Suppose it will be MKB then.
Graham
That’s a great idea. That’s probably why Arsenal wouldn’t do it, because we find great ideas suspicious.
Agent : ” Oh here is Ronaldo and Messi, they can be the very best in the world. Would you like to buy ? ”
Arsenal: ” Mmmmm yeah they look very good and so talented,sorry it makes too much sense, we ‘ll buy Berndtner instead”
Seriously though we should fire Emery now and replace him with Freddie. At worst he would fail and we ‘ll just get a replacement at season’s end. That replacement could be Arteta.
Arteta would not be a high risk appointment provided he were appointed as our caretaker manager for rest of the season. We are out of reckoning for top 4 anyway. How worse could things get under Arteta in remaining 5-6 months ? Wouldn’t make much of a difference to us whether we finished 5th or 7th this season. But if he clicks, it will be like hitting a jackpot. The same goes for Freddie too.
Enrique just give off that Emery vibe. Pretty similar record too. Will he turn out to be a Pep or an Emery ?
It’s crazy though that there is no British manager out there good enough to be considered.
So Pedro thinks we should throw an Arteta who has actually never managed a team at any level before into this messy hullabaloo?
Oh-oh, what a great vision.
TR7
I d give it to Freddie first since he’s already there. Maybe Arteta won’t be needed.
TR7,
If Arteta has a reasonably realistic prospect of eventually becoming ManC manager, why would he accept an interim or caretaker role at Arsenal?
TR7
Agree, Arteta almost became a bad word on here which is now somewhat funny considering how poor Emery has been. This season quickly becoming the perfect testing ground to blood a manager in such as Arteta.
I like the look of Thiago Motta
If we are getting a manager from outside the EPL, we need that manager to come in this season and get used to the players and EPL so that come summer, he would know what he needs.
I would not mind the Wolves manager right now.
Always liked Nuno Espirito Santos….
Azed, If you were to physically attend games you would know. At the start of the season he was a happy bunny willing to do selfies and sign autographs with fans. Since he does not do that. He snapped at people who try to talk to him. On TV look at his demeanour during games. He used to be animated and talked to the youngsters. Now he just sat there and say nothing. Once in a while he gets in an argument with the fourth official. Don’t believe me, then go and Talk to people at the club and they… Read more »
PierreNovember 12, 2019 18:46:45 Paulinho “. Also if he had played Ramsey earlier on in the season he probably wouldn’t have been fit to drop those master class CM performances around March.” Yeah , the return of Ozil supplemented by a couple of surprisingly disciplined (though very good) performances by Ramsey , managed to save Emery’s season last time round. Unfortunately for Emery , he never learnt his lesson and repeated the very same mistakes this season, though I’m afraid the hole is way too deep this season for Ozil to come to his rescue again. >>>>> Yeah this isn’t… Read more »
Distant
Yes, Freddie has a stronger claim to replace Emery than Arteta. My only submission is if we appointed any of the two, it would not be a disaster. This season is over for us. We don’t have much to lose.
Marko
What the fudge on you on about?
Tell me why Freddie is not a good fit?
My argument is based on getting Emery out now. Which is logical.
Rather than mock, why not try to explain why Freddie is not a good fit at this stage?
I won’t bite.
As for Ozil, not exactly ripping it up is he?
Ozil, Ramsey, Wenger; they’re history now, and at 31 we can and must be doing better than Ozil.
Emery failing doesn’t all of a sudden make Arteta any less of an unnecessary risk or actually better. Literally zero evidence that things would have been better or the same or worse had he gotten the job. Really pointless still making the case for him because since 2018 his situation hasn’t changed one bit still the same issues and are we desperate enough to give him the job? With Enrique, Allegri and Marcelino available? Still a no for me. Platitudes aside he hasn’t done anything to deserve the job
Valentin
Have you ever considered that he is snappy because the team is not doing well?
As the following
I even mentioned that he had had a fallout with Emery. You all said that I was lying. Three weeks later it was announced that Steve Bould had requested a job swap with Freddie.
don’t let me dig out your comments.
You said Freddie was forced on Emery by management and told its Bould that requested for job change?
Tell me why Freddie is not a good fit?My argument is based on getting Emery out now. Which is logical.
So anyone then. Why not the lad who cleans the bog at the stadium? Freddie’s not a good fit because he’s not a manager and I see no reason why someone so inexperienced and unqualified should get the job.
This season is over for us. We don’t have much to lose.
Absolutely ridiculous thing to say. Dumb in fact. Chelsea leaky as us play Liverpool next in the league while we’re home to Southampton and they’re 8 ahead. A new manager can salvage the season absolutely dumb to experiment because we have nothing to lose.
Valentin Sorry mate but has your brain had a malfunction? Let’s say Freddie is fed up and agitated. Why do you think that is? Would it have anything to do with the fact that he may be annoyed with Emery, just like all of us and that he’s not being listened to? Bould had that same look under Wenger. Shite I’d be fudging snappy and grumpy if I was working with Emery all day. He’d drive me mad. I even get snappy and grumpy just knowing that Emery is still at the club. Maybe the solution is to get Freddie… Read more »
Benny
You made some good points last night
But then you almost countered them yourself and Pedro annihilated you.
The problem is with you is that you’re inconsistent
You need to stick to something and adhere to it. Don’t be Bamford
MarkoNovember 12, 2019 19:21:39
This season is over for us. We don’t have much to lose.Absolutely ridiculous thing to say. Dumb in fact. Chelsea leaky as us play Liverpool next in the league while we’re home to Southampton and they’re 8 ahead. A new manager can salvage the season absolutely dumb to experiment because we have nothing to lose.
Wtf??
Yet again i agree wit marko
Marko I don’t see:
Ten Hag
Nagelsmann
Marco Rose
Fonseca
Moving at the mid point of the season, in the end its all discussion as Raul will likely take a pass on all opting for Enrique/Mourinho or maybe Marcelino if were lucky.
Season not dead yet.. no hand break needed.
TR7 – I never said anything about a title challenge before you asked me. I posted a quote earlier roday talking about squad versus 1st XI(the post that prompted you to ask about title tilt) and because I mentioned the 07/08 team as an example, you inferred I was talking about a title challenge because that team challenged up until March. I wasn’t, I was merely using that side because the first XI were so good.
Still haven’t changed my mind;)
Marko
“Freddie’s not a good fit because he’s not a manager”
Who frigging cares?
Emery’s a manager and he doesn’t fit.
Wenger was a manager with 22 years experience and he didn’t fit.
Is that all you can come up with, that “he lacks experience and is unqualified?”
Bloody hell, if “the lad who cleans the bogs” speaks English and understands the fundamentals of the game, which I guarantee he probably does, he would be a better fit than Emery at this moment in time.
What’s your solution oh wise one?
“Season not dead yet.. no hand break needed.”
Mathematically it’s not dead but you only need to watch us play to understand were in the mire.
I was happy to Emery the season but on current form, I’m struggling to justify keeping him at all.
It’s over, time to move on, even if that means a punt for the rest of the season, at least it will be exciting.
Words 1. At City even if Arteta impresses for 6 months as an assistant manager, he might not get the gig in next 2-3 years whereas at Arsenal he is very likely to get a new 2 years contract if he impresses as a caretaker manager. 2. Emery has set the bar very low for his successor. All Arteta will have to do.is to extract more from our squad than Emery has and get the team to play some decent football. At City not only is there an uncertainty over his future but also if he gets the gig he… Read more »
Graham, My point exactly. Freddie is snappy. I have not speculated about why. For all I know, it may be due to some personal reason outside of work. However if you are management and you see the assistant headcoach being stressed out like that. Would you give the headcoach job to him where he may be even more stressed? Regarding Steve Bould. I did not talked about his demeanour. I wrote that he had had some kind of fallout with Emery, because I was told so. Steve Bould then organised with Freddie the job swap. Raul accepted the proposal that… Read more »
So Sal you think we’re left with no other option than Arteta? Come off it.
Chelski as leaky as us!!!!!!
What the hell are you lot on?
As it stands, Chelski are head and shoulders above us in every aspect of their play.
They will go into the Liverpool game brimming with confidence. Well go into the Southampton game scared shitless.
We need a change now or else it’ll be too late.
Yeah, Rose, Tuchel and Ten Hag would be my picks. All of them have question marks over certain aspects. Tuchel is the most ‘elite’ out of them and would likely have the most demands. What we really need is someone who believes in a pressing style, high work rate from his players, builds a team toward that and cultivates an environment of tenacity and loyalty to the cause. One of my biggest gripes with Emery and something that really turned me away from him was the fact he abandons everything. Arrived with ideas of a high line and high pressing… Read more »
We’ll
What’s your solution oh wise one?
Actually hire a manager. It’s not hard to get Graham simply saying who cares isn’t a logical argument either
Chelski as leaky as us!!!!!!What the hell are you lot on?As it stands, Chelski are head and shoulders above us in every aspect of their play.
Leaky as in defence as in they concede as much as us. Are you okay did you forget to take your meds or something?
Marko
Merely suggesting there is little downside to appointing Arteta/Freddie at this stage provided it is a caretaker manager role. Not recommending them per se, just that it wouldn’t get any worse under them than it is now. This season is well and truly over. Any two out of Leicester, Chelsea and Spurs will take the 3rd and 4th position.
TR7,
You’ve convinced me.
Damn, I was looking for an argument, but couldn’t rustle up a halfway decent counter-argument!
“he spoke about being high tempo protagonists and the abandoned that for a deep block etc”
I think there is an element of him adjusting to the counter-attack heavy personnel we have and sitting deeper at times as part of a strategy, or at least being receptive to drawing teams onto us.
Aubameyang & Pepe thrive in space, Xhaka’s main purpose seems to be sitting deep and threading balls through to players in space, and Luiz is (supposed) to be a good long passer.
Every day , Freddie stands by this nonsense – he is just as culpable as The Clown and Co. for our humiliation and demise. If he cant see he is being used by The Spiv – he is just plain stupid. The Spiv will drop him – like he did with Ramsey and Co. If he had the cojones like he allegedly has in his lunchbox he would say to The Spiv. “”””Give me the job until the end of the season now or I am off out the door today”””” He would undoubtedly get the Arsenal job and every… Read more »
Chelsea’s next game is against Man City not Liverpool. Chelsea have let in 17, the same as Arsenal. Chelsea have a GD of 10 Arsenal have a GD off minus 1.
Paulinho October 22, 2018 21:53:17
TR7 – I fear we are not good enough to acquire the required points against top sides to mount a title challenge, but we definitely have the squad to consistently beat everyone outside the top six. United won the league doing that a few years back so I wouldn’t completely write off a challenge“ Wouldn’t completely write off a title challenge but we don’t have players for top 4 these days. Alright mate 😂
Paulinho
Explain. You plonker
CG
Ffs, he’s been in position just a few months and he’s already a “coward”.
You dipstick.
Just to remind you, your favourite coward hasn’t found a job yet.
Don – I already have you cock.
Graham
Freddie can still be our Hero
But for how long- can he sit idle and keep sturm?
Graham
Excuse me, I do however think what marko was getting at is that we are very much stilll on for top 4 under not just the right coach but a decent coach
Emery is dog shit
Even marko has conceded
That’s his point
Chelsea are better all round but under emery their defence is worse on paper
This season is well and truly over. Any two out of Leicester, Chelsea and Spurs will take the 3rd and 4th position.
Oh for fucks sake do you actually hear yourself. The season’s over for us might as well write it off no point in trying to salvage it. Meanwhile Spurs below us don’t have to worry plenty to fight for. Probably helps having the 3rd best manager in the world otherwise they’d be in serious trouble sitting in 14th. FYI they’re 12 points behind Leicester 11 behind Chelsea. All to play for really. We should just roll over though
PaulinhoNovember 12, 2019 20:03:44
Don – I already have you cock.
Fwoar. Don’t get upset mate. You’ve humiliated yourself. Your bull shit predictions have no been proven as laughable as they seemed 18 months ago.
Best he’d to the deli alpi and hope Ramsey makes an appearance
Another cunt who’d rather Be right than see Arsenal successful
CA
You can rule out Tan Hag for now. I don’t think any manager in the past has left his team in the middle of a CL campaign to join a club in Europa.