AFC re-message disaster briefing as Arteta rumours resurface

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Don Raul and Edu had a little rethink after their car crash leak to Ornstein about the fans being ‘noise’ bitches.

Their new angle is a little more nuanced, a little more ‘Arsenal class.’

“We are as disappointed as everyone else with both our results and performances at this stage of the season. We share the frustration with our fans, Unai, players and all our staff as they are not at the level we want or expect.

“Things need to improve to meet our objectives for the season, and we firmly believe Unai is the right man for the job, together with the backroom team we have in place.

“We are all working intensively behind the scenes to turn things around and are confident we will.

“We never take our fantastic support for granted. We hope we can all stick together and get behind the team in this challenging period, as together we are stronger.”

Take this intel as you will, the club absolutely know what a garbage fire the Unai Emery regime is. They do not believe the club is on the path to progress. They see it as we do. They know it’s highly unlikely his tenure can be saved. They are football people, they know in far more detail than you what’s going on, and it’s not pretty.

The above statement backs the manager, because at this point, there’s no choice. They can’t come out and call him a joke and explain how they’re going to replace him shortly, that my friends would be worse PR than telling the fans they are ‘noisy ass hoes.’

What you need to look for in situations like these are the stories that enter the media seemingly out of nowhere. We’ve already had The Times report on Raul’s dinner with Jose. That wasn’t an accident. It was a gross mistake, the culinary equivalent of waking up in bed with a damp box of donner kebab on your chest with Wayne Rooney licking your chili sauce stained fingers. Rest assured, that story was planted to let the fans know that ‘ideas’ are under consideration.

Yesterday, in part two of #FreshLeaks we had a hit of ‘Arsenal still interested in Arteta.’ The source appears to be The Sun and it seems a little too specific to be a clickbait job.

The message is either an accidental leak from the club (which I doubt), a trial balloon to see what the fans think after Unai ‘safe hands’ Emery failed spectacularly, or it’s a message to Arteta to smoke him out about the renewed interest. I certainly don’t believe it’s come from Arteta’s camp, because I doubt he has a camp at this stage of his coaching career. I also don’t think he’d want to make Pep look a chump for the second time running (especially during a slump), that might be a death blow to his fledgling coaching career at City. Remember, Arsenal disrupted his relationship with Pep last time when they flaked on him after bringing him to the final stages of negotiations. I also don’t think City would brief against a highly rated member of their own staff.

With the story rebubbling, I thought it might be a good opportunity to reassert my passion for a hire of his ilk.

Arsenal need a vision of football the fans can get behind. We’re not Allegri, Conte or Mourinho types. We’re a Wengerball club whether we like it or not, and that is built on foundations of exciting possession-based football. We should be hiring someone that can deliver that to the fans.

If Arsenal were a tech start-up, we’d be prying the best product visionaries from the best places. You can either try your luck with a Steve Jobs (I’m in the 2000s Apple, obvs), which is a fruitless/expensive task, or you steal one of his underlings, like Tony Fadell (iPod VP, left to work with a VC to bring Nest to life). That’s what the big boys do. They find people with less of a name, that have good reputations, and most importantly, the blueprints for success. If you can get 50% of a legendary name’s stardust, you are on your way.

Arteta has been with Pep during two of the most successful seasons ever witnessed in the Premier League. Manchester City found new levels of brilliance. Their attacking football has been a thing of beauty, fast, intricate and devastating. Their movement off the ball is exceptional, as a team, they’re winning the league on 98 points, making the least tackles in the league. They use a positional play on the pitch to force mistakes, think of the smarts needed to teach footballers how to do that. They play a brand of cognitive football we could only dream of (read).

Why wouldn’t you want the number two of the City winning machine at Arsenal?

Arteta is on the record stating the type of football he wants to play. This from the Arsenal Magazine in 2016.

“My philosophy will be clear,”

“I want the football to be expressive, entertaining. I cannot have a concept of football where everything is based on the opposition.

“We have to dictate the game, we have to be the ones taking the initiative, and we have to entertain the people coming to watch us. I’m 100 percent convinced of those things, and I think I could do it.”

“You can have an idea of a system, but you need to be able to transform it depending on the players you have – how much pace you have upfront, how technical your team is, what types of risk you can take and whether your players are ready to take those risks.

He also talks about having players 150% committed to the cause, how he admires Pep’s drive to look to the future of where the game is going, and how he looked up to way his PSG captain Poch built love with players. That was an exciting glimpse into his mind in 2016, imagine how his ideas have developed since?

This is a player that can speak at least 4 languages, including scouser. He’s an excellent communicator. It’s also worth noting that he didn’t shame us as captain, which is a small thing, but it shows he has values. He did a very good job for us as his career declined. We were still a CL team under his watch, whatever you think of his ability at the time, he helped stabilise us during a rough period that involved Andre Santos.

He has an excellent reputation at City for being an innovator, a mentor, and a brilliant coach. Pep widely credited his assistant for developing Raheem Sterling. Players and staff constantly talk about his influence and impact on their careers.

This is Pep in October.

“He has an incredible work ethic, and he has a special talent to analyse what happens, and to find the solutions, and we talk a lot about what he believes and feels and so on,”

“He’s an incredible human being, with incredible values about what it means in the locker room and to be together, and he is already an incredible manager and he’ll have incredible success in his future.”

Fernandinho:

“For me, especially Mikel Arteta, because he played in the same position as I play. So sometimes I have private chats with him to correct some positioning or something that is wrong.

Delph, who credited him with extending his career at City.

“I think Mikel would be a fantastic manager. When the rumours were circulating about him leaving, I was thinking ‘please don’t!’ We get on very well as do all the players and staff. We’ve got a great energy and that energy is similar to what we’ve got here with England.”

The PR wins rack up for a coach that Wenger, Poch and Pep competed for when he retired.

Some say he should go to a lesser club first, but why would you? This is Pep on Arteta.

“I’m pretty sure [he’ll succeed me]. He will have success,”

Go to Newcastle to prove to Barry on Twitter you have balls? Please. Man moved to Glasgow for his career, that’s all you need to know about his character.

With Arteta, we’d be hiring in Manchester City IP, with a player that knows and loves The Arsenal. Raul and Edu could be kingmakers, just like the Barca execs were with Pep G. The experience he lacks could be covered by a more experienced assistant and first-team coach.

Would he make mistakes? Absolutely. Would it take time to get things right? You are damn right. Would it be worth it if he succeeded? 100%.

Imagine being exciting by Arsenal again?

A lot of people like to talk up the failures of career assistants. Arteta is still only 37 years old. He’s punching well above his weight for where he is in his career. He is clearly special, an obsessive, someone desperate to succeed. He is in an elite category for young coaches. I do not think this is the same as Mike Phelan making a play for a first-team coach role at Derby.

We tried safe and by the book, it failed in spectacular fashion, like I predicted. ‘Safe’ isn’t a strategy. It’s cowardice. Why not try something with a bit of vision? Hire in a manager who is a bit of an unknown. At the very worst, we’ll be playing a coherent style of football, at best, we might have landed the next big name in world football.

We don’t need a has-been manager taking us to top 4 if that’s the ceiling. We need to find a coach that can work with the tools he’s given and coach our team into the future.

That could be Arteta. I think it’s a far more palatable option than the other managers on offer. The risk is lower than people think, and if it’s between the names on offer currently, it’s Arteta all day for me.

Right, that’s my piece, I’m running for my pelter shelter, see you in the comments.

P.S. Auba, fuck the noise bitches. The fans love you. Chin up, you’re our best player. x

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Words on a Blog

Raptora,

Your post of 13:24:50 is bang on the money.

Ishola70

Raptora

If the Arsenal squad is so good why do they have such a poor EPL away record?

And this with Emery not being good enough taken into account as well.

Marko

It’s a big job. Recruitment is everything.

Absolutely right. The next guy is still going to have a number of the same problems that exist now and he’ll have to address that in the transfer market. I believe the powers that be know this. The Saliba signing and links to Upamecano Zakaria and Szobolai or whatever that Hungarian at Salzburg is called suggest that.

Ishola70

Any time there is an away EPL match review on here we may as well state can Arsenal secure a rare EPL away win?

Arsenal are that poor on the road.

You don’t saunter into the top four with such a poor away EPL record.

It’s always going to be a fight or struggle or failure.

Graham62

There is underlying racism in the EPL.

All these foreign managers being touted and our own homegrown talent are being ignored.

Eddie Howe should be a prime candidate but, as per usual, he’s not good enough.

raptora

Marko,
It doesn’t have data from November 2018 to the rest of the season. It says that Ramsey missed 6 days – 1 August 2018 to 7 August 2018. Not full data.

Paulinho

Pedro – Emery underrating Ramsey is a pretty fair call, but he probably knew he was off, and was looking to the future. Also if he had played Ramsey earlier on in the season he probably wouldn’t have been fit to drop those master class CM performances around March.

He did say Ramsey was affected by the contract situation earlier on in the season as well. No one knows what went on there. Emery didn’t even know Mikhi was going to Roma until after Spurs game so wouldn’t put it past Raul being the one that pulled the plug.

Words on a Blog

Emery Season 1 was reasonably effective and tactically interesting, and although our performances faded away in the last 10 matches or so, I and a majority of fans made allowances for him given the squad, injuries, etc.

Emery Season 2 is, both in tactical and leadership terms, all over the place. And that is reflected in our performances and results.

There was simply no need to prolong the agony.

raptora

Doesn’t have Holding injury and the rest.

Paulinho

Marko – City have nailed that department. Absolute top talent – going back to Kompany – that any style of manager would utilise. That’s the key.

Receding Hairline

All this talk about Emery yanking Ramsey’s contract should not be taken seriously, he has no such powers.

Anyone who thinks Emery was happy with the sale of Iwobi and the loaning out of Mhki has not been paying attention.

Words on a Blog

Graham62,

You’re probably right that there is a kind of reverse xenophobia going on in the PL, with no one rating English/British managers.

Not convinced that Eddie Howe would take us to the next level. I would say one thing though: the football would be a lot more entertaining.

Graham62

Are you telling me OGS is better than Howe?

Are you telling me Sarri was better than Howe?

Are you telling me Silva is better than Howe?

Are you telling me Hassenhuttl is better than Howe?

Are you telling me Emery is better than Howe?

Of course they’re not.

Pisses me off.

Words on a Blog

The one thing holding back English managers from being considered more seriously is that, unlike French, Italian, Spanish or Portuguese managers, they’re hardly ever prepared to work outside their home leagues.

Receding Hairline

“Are you telling me Sarri was better than Howe?”

Yes

“Are you telling me Emery is better than Howe?”

Yes

“Are you telling me Silva is better than Howe?Are you telling me Hassenhuttl is better than Howe?”

No….

raptora

Paulinho, Emery also benched Ramsey cause he didn’t know how to use him. You were being super loud how Ramsey should be played in the CM position yet Emery kept insisting to use him as a CAM. Ramsey wasn’t performing well as CAM. So benching him was so easy. But now it was a masterclass? Exactly the opposite, it’s another proof of Emery being clueless. Took him till February to realize what a player he has.

Receding Hairline

“they’re hardly ever prepared to work outside their home leagues.”

Which is why a man coming over here to coach and learn English at the same time should not be mocked.

Moyes and Neville spent time in Spain but none bothered to learn Spanish, English is not the only language in the world and isn’t more important than others.

KC

Good points Batistuta Last season we lost the first two games and went on a 22 game unbeaten run. So what has changed? we have conceded the same amount of goals but have scored far less. Defensively we look like we have no confidence and I blame the fact that we are trying to play out of defence. we lose the ball before we get out of our half and we are under pressure. Attack again we lost the believe that we can out score the opponent and we create less chances. I think we have a better squad of… Read more »

Marko

Marko, not sure if you actually looked at the data before you prematurely ejaculated that link, but I’d have a little revisit and maybe analyse the date a little deeper before putting it forward as evidence.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. That’s true though it doesn’t have December onwards data. Now if December onwards can make up the difference between 13 and 55 I’ll owe you a coke but otherwise you’ll be wrong with your initial claim. I’ll have a goo

Paulinho

Raptora – Ramsey’s performances were a ‘master class’. I was critical of Emery’s handling of him, but also respected and was aware of Emery’s preference in regards to his system. I actually said on the first day of last season Emery will eventually be left with no choice to play him as a central mid, and it took longer than I thought, but eventually he was forced to. Ramsey did show against Spurs away that was still capable of impacting the game playing as a ten though. Massive goal at their place that no one else in our squad now… Read more »

Ishola70

Raptora

“Took him till February to realize what a player he has.”

Ramsey realised the player he is. His unfortunate injury record aside.

That’s why he now finds himself playing at a bigger club, on a bigger european stage at Juventus.

Valentin

I don’t believe that there is a reverse xenophobia toward British manager. What there is different approaches to select a manager. Excluding the assistant manager then named care taker manager who become permanent manager, most clubs share the same approach to naming a new manager. The classic old Boys network approach select among their same coterie of British managers. Most have already proven not to be good enough to challenge the status quo, but good enough to save a club from oblivion/relegation. Hence mediocre managers like Sam Allardyce, Tony Pulis, Tony Mobray, etc keeps getting gigs they don’t deserve. The… Read more »

Distant legrover

So Arteta is supposed to replace Pep at Man City so then why were they willing to let us talk to him last year. Surely the replacement shouldn’t be negotiating with rivals. I doubt a club like Man City will sign a young, inexperienced guy like Arteta as their manager. Zidane, Tuchel etc more like.

Marko

I count 11 more injuries going by transfermarket from December onwards. Either way you cut it significantly less than the previous year.

Distant legrover

Compared to the number of big clubs in Europe, there doesn’t seem to be enough big top managers at the moment. Can you even count 10 ? I guess Arteta is worth a shot then.

Distant legrover

Valentin

I think that’s why Eddie Howe is respected by some. He’s not your average Tony Pulis or Allardyce. Always wondered why those average guys continued to get a job despite their averageness. He wants to have possesion, press, attack, things some British managers don’t do.

Graham62

Words

To a degree, this is true.

The thing is though, as soon as a foreign coach has only a minuscule of success, he is considered a good manager. Just because they look good, smell good and speak reasonable English( sorry Unai) doesn’t instantly make them special sauce.

Lampard and Gerrard look to have that special sauce.

DigitalBob

Nothing to lose imo if we go for Arteta.
Emery was the safe choice and has delivered a whole bunch of meh-ness so far in his short time at the club. I’d be really interested to see an Arsenal team led by Arteta and a few of the invincible squad in the dugout. I doubt performances will get worse.

Howe I don’t like not because he’s English but because his teams generally can’t play away from home and are streaky/inconsistent. Having said that I’d take Howe or Wilder over Emery if it came down to it.

Distant legrover

I think Emery struggled in Russia for the same reason hes struggling here. Language and cultural difference. He’s made for football in Spain and nowhere else.

Distant legrover

Words

Because they are intimidated. The proof is in how The media worships a successful foreign coach. They treat him like the Mayans treated Aliens in spacecraft. Bowing and kissing their foot and stuff.

Graham62

Distant

You’re right.

He’s actually become more Spanish over these past few months.

How is this possible?

Marko

Gerrard has sauce already? Come on man. It’s Scotland ffs. As long as you’re managing a team called Celtic or Rangers (bar a few years there) you’re challenging and winning. Look he’s doing well Frank too but go easy on the grand proclamations shall we. Southgate too doing a good job with England but I doubt very much if people rate him ridiculously high that he’s considered for a top job in Europe. You guys overrate too much. Top English manager for me knocking about is probably Graham Potter. Lad looks like he could get a team working and playing… Read more »

Valentin

Distant, I like Eddie Howe. I am not sure that dropping him in the disaster that is Arsenal at this stage of his career would not set him back. I also think that in order to take the next step up he needs to drop his British players first rose tainted glasses on. Look at the amount he has wasted on sub standard players such as Solanke, Jordon Ibe because they are British. For the Same amount he would have been able to recruit much better players and have more success without changing his football principles. Qualify for a European… Read more »

JayJay

Raul’s favourite Christmas song and Christmas wishes for all the noisy Arsenal fans?

“We wish you Emery Christmas”

Un na naai

Champagne CharlieNovember 12, 2019 03:27:05 Here’s a few sound bites from the Arsenal vs Leicester game at Emirates that we won 3-1 last season Benny.Hold onto your cuppa:“Bamford10 October 23, 2018 01:29:13 This Leicester City team has little to nothing going for it. People need to chill on whatever praise they think we deserve for this match.”“Bamford10 October 23, 2018 08:46:06 Ozil was fantastic. His best performance for Arsenal in a very long time, maybe ever. However, we now need to see him play that way regularly and against better competition…………… it’s looking more and more like Emery knows what… Read more »

Un na naai

Bamford you are utterly without shame. At least joe has the good grace to lie low after his whopping.

You got an atomic bomb dropped o you last night and you’re back for more?

Receding Hairline

“I like Eddie Howe. I am not sure that dropping him in the disaster that is Arsenal at this stage of his career would not set him back”

He is 41, been coaching properly since 2008.

Not really a virgin in coaching terms

What disaster at Arsenal, we have world class players and just about anyone can get us top four, that’s has been the word on here for a while now.

Receding Hairline

“Although he has embraced the challenge of playing in the Championship, he has made a few costly mistakes. He’s given penalties away and squandered possession inside his own box but those mistakes will become less frequent as the season goes on. Currently in 16th place, however, it hasn’t been easy for Bielik since leaving Arsenal.” One of the “stars” that the club was supposed to use this season. The step up from league 1 to the championship is coming as a shock let alone league 1 to the premier league “Bought by Bundesliga II side Hamburg, the promising youngster has… Read more »

Un na naai

It just goes to
Show that Bamford positions himself to
Maximise the potential attention he will get through his posts rather than actually having any real belief in what he’s saying.

He’s just an attention seeking machine.

DigitalBob

LOL, Ivan the terrible doing what he does best!

Hopefully its an actual transfer in January with a fee and not a stupid loan.

bennydevito

Afternoon Grovers,

Great post Pedro, really well put together.

I’m sold. You’ve totally sold me the Arteta vision, I’m all over it.

We took the safe option and it has failed spectacularly. Now let’s approach Arteta before he takes over from Guardiola.

Receding Hairline

Fantastic for Xhaka if he moves to Serie A. a league where i think he will excel. He isn’t a bad player, never was, just found it tough going here but even at that gave his all and should never be ashamed of it.

I hope this means we will at least make a move for a mobile tackling midfielder in January

DigitalBob

Receding – Spot on!

But I doubt we make a move for a midfielder in January, we’ll probably see Chambers filling in at DM from time to time till the summer.

peanuts&monkeys

Playing our from the back has to be stopped. If not altogether, at least half of the times, especially after 55 minutes.
There has to be a way to gain possession from a goal kick . One good header at the center who can get the ball drift toward either flanks and be good enough.

Whatever it takes, discontinuing this playing out from the back is bound to bring results

Batistuta

Ivan Gazidis definitely is going to haunt me wherever i go at this stage…

Signing Xhaka is pretty dumb but get what he might think he’d be getting….The Italian league isn’t as slow as some like to think… He might do well here which will be good for the club as a whole but we need work on the defence more than we need another midfielder

HighburyLegend

“Fantastic for Xhaka if he moves to Serie A. a league where i think he will excel. ”

Don’t know at which degree I must take this quote… (lol)

bennydevito

Valentin posted an article the other day that clearly stated it was Raul who pulled Ramsey’s contract, not Emery. Emery doesn’t have that power; he’s not Wenger, he’s not the manager, he’s the head coach. Completely different set up.

Ramsey had long enough to sign the contract as Wenger recently said; he tried to get Ramsey to extend but he wouldn’t.

After Ozil signed for £350k Ramsey wanted the same or more. Raul decided it wasn’t happening.

Champagne charlie

Vieira absolutely guaranteed to have upset some of the whoppers on here with this one, bet they rescind their excitable anticipation of him as a gaffer:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11859951/patrick-vieira-granit-xhaka-deserves-arsenal-respect

Apangu Iddi Amin

This is just a CV of which many of the managers in the list also have but i only have one sympathy with M Arteta proposal thats to say we need some one who has the club at his heart and in him i think we may get this since he is our former player.

Batistuta

I mean I’d rather we got Mustafi from Arsenal than Xhaka if Ivan wanted to deal with his old club

Mr Man

I agree Receding, in a slower league Xhaka will do very well. Premier league was way too fast and physical for him

Batistuta

We should absolutely be all over Milenkovic from Florentina by the way before he becomes mega expensive. Mentioned on here before that United were already sniffing….

Whoever the next manager might be, we need to make sure someone at Arsenal has an interest in buying actual defenders and a DM

peanuts&monkeys

Sticking around with Emery will be the 2nd biggest mistake Arsenal will do after sticking around with Wenger after 2 – 8.

Emery at Arsenal safter thede apalling performances stiks of vested interests.

Sack him

Bamford10

Raptora

“Emery also benched Ramsey cause he didn’t know how to use him.”

Complete nonsense. He benched him because the club had decided to move Ramsey on and Emery was trying to plan for the future, trying to see what he had in his players and squad without Ramsey. This is precisely the kind of approach he indicated they are taking (in general) in his SkySports comments. “Information gathering,” he called it. Figuring out who can do what where, who can help Arsenal going forward.

peanuts&monkeys

“Milenkovic from Florentina by the way before he becomes mega expensive”

BS. We have enough good players and we have been lucky to have enough poor performances from Utd and Spurs to be 3red ongthe league. First, change this manager.

peanuts&monkeys

Ramsey is not PL material. He is good at Serie A .

Marc

To be completely honest I don’t really care how Xhaka gets on when he leaves us. I don’t wish him ill but I’d prefer to focus on Arsenal.

If he’s going to get a move I’ve said before Italy would suit him but what I really want to know is what fee will we get?

DigitalBob

peanuts&monkeys – It has to stop, his persistence with this is baffling.

The lack of a pressing game and the lack of a coherent consistent playing style are also brainfarts Emery needs to address.

salparadisenyc

Good Post Pedro

Agree this is now a Wengerball club like it or not which is definitely part of the movement against Emery. We are unrecognizable. Arsenal with a negative goal difference is a lot to take on board, shit at both ends of the pitch is a hard sell.

This club needs a seismic jolt of footballing vision, many potentials listed over the past couple weeks make total sense. No hand break baby.

Paulinho

Just going through that match Leicester match thread. Yeah, still fairly consistent.

PaulinhoOctober 22, 2018 21:42:09
Definitely a squad game this year.Sometimes you have a great first 11 – like 07/08 – and sometimes it’s about mixing and matching. That’s the type of team we are. Using the whole squad.

Batistuta

Peanuts

Yea think bar 1 or 2, there’s a general feeling that the club needs to get someone else in but doesn’t change the fact that we need to upgrade certain positions if we’re going to be competitive once again

Paulinho

Of course that didn’t make the ‘blooper’ fail cut.

Spanishdave

There’s enough ammo to fire Emery now.
Poorest league start, poor away record, goal scoring low, defense bad etc.
So why wait?
A few wins over crap opposition proves nothing.
Does Freddie want it?
Will he do a caretakers job?
Why was he moved to assistant job?
The stats show that we will not get 4th , and before long we won’t get Europa place.
What a mess

Marko

‘I feel sorry for him because he [was] the captain and he’s going through a really difficult period and really difficult time at Arsenal,” Vieira said. “I think we have to remind ourselves that he’s achieved a lot since he’s at Arsenal and he deserves a lot of respect.” First off achieved a lot? Big what right there. Also what difficult time and period was he going through? If he’s going through one now it’s literally because of his own actions. Or was the abuse about his family before or after or made up? Hard to know exactly when the… Read more »

MartinellisHead

Bumford desperately needs some pussy

HighburyLegend

“I think we have to remind ourselves that he’s achieved a lot since he’s at Arsenal”

Patrick is smoking pot ??

Jimmy B

Great piece. I wanted Mikel last year and people were laughing at me. The only reservation I have and it’s a big one, is that I like him. I don’t really want anyone I like subjected to the vitriol of the Arsenal (Online/AFTV) fan-base. If Adams were even a half-decent coach, he’d be ideal. Anyone taking that job’s going to have to be extremely thick-skinned.

HighburyLegend

It is clear that Vieira wants Granité at Nice!! lol

HighburyLegend

“I wanted Mikel last year and people were laughing at me.”

I’m still laughing.

Marko

The only reservation I have and it’s a big one, is that I like him

Definitely a sticking point. Best to have an Arsenal manager you dislike in all honesty

Spanishdave

If Emery’s so good why did PSG throw him out?
He hasn’t lasted long wherever he’s been.
He shouldn’t be in football , clueless tosser.

alex cutter

“It just goes to
Show that Bamford positions himself to
Maximise the potential attention he will get through his posts rather than actually having any real belief in what he’s saying.He’s just an attention seeking machine.”

Just shut up already. What fuck is wrong with you?

HighburyLegend

lol marko.

Receding Hairline

“If Emery’s so good why did PSG throw him out?” If he was a clown why did they hire him in the first place “He hasn’t lasted long wherever he’s been.” Staying at one club forever isn’t a sign you are good, it can be interpreted as one afraid to take a leap “He shouldn’t be in football , clueless tosser.” This is the sought of nonsense many take issue with 2013-2014 European coach of the season Three time Europa league winner 7/10 trophies won at PSG where he “failed” Led a team to La Liga for the first time… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“Rambo RamseyMay 23, 2018 13:43:05
FrankMc I find it laughable the people who turn their noses up at ‘underwhelming’ Emery.Managed bottom clubs and took them up leagues.
Managed medium size clubs and found success.
Managed big club and found success.The man has done it all.”

Was going through past comments then came across this…..I prefer not to speak

The man has done it all indeed now he is a clown

Spanishdave

Why did PSG kick him out?
Answer please.
Winner of Europa cups, wow , the reason any team is in the Loosers cup is that they are 5 th or 6th in the league.
He got stuffed by Chelsea in Europa last year.
We don’t want to be Europa specialists, we need to get back at the top.
The next level!

Marko

Going through past comments can be a slippery slope.

Receding Hairline

“Going through past comments can be a slippery slope.”

Indeed

No one comes out of it a winner, we can all change our views daily, some faster than others, that is life.

No need insulting and ridiculing someone over theirs.

Alexanderhenry

Pedro

Good news that there might be movement behind the scenes. The brains trust must prove their worth.

And yes, we know you want Arteta. I like Arteta, so let’s go with Arteta.

Also:

‘We’re a Wengerball club whether we like it or not, and that is built on foundations of exciting possession-based football.’

Not sure I agree with that but it sounds like actual praise for wenger. Surprising from you.

Receding Hairline

“He shouldn’t be in football , clueless tosser.” the nonsense above is what i was responding to. He shouldn’t be in football yet ha achieved a lot in football. What have you done in football to dictate who should and shouldn’t work in the game? “He got stuffed by Chelsea in Europa last year.” Same way he stuffed Klopp in the final one year, what’s your point? “We don’t want to be Europa specialists, we need to get back at the top. The next level!” You should have just said that in the first place rather than dictating who should… Read more »

Left testicle

The only people who think Arsenal have class are the Arsenal hierarchy.

Unless somebody can tell me why we’re a class club?

bennydevito

Champagne charlieNovember 12, 2019    15:21:26 Vieira absolutely guaranteed to have upset some of the whoppers on here with this one, bet they rescind their excitable anticipation of him as a gaffer: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11859951/patrick-vieira-granit-xhaka-deserves-arsenal-respect >>>>> Nope, no guarantees at all. Not upset me, I would love Vieira more than Arteta and I still think Xhaka is inadequate for us and that Vieira is just giving lip service because he wants the job and wants to be seen to be saying the right things. No way if Xhaka was in the team alongside Vieira that Vieira wouldn’t pull him on how bad he’s… Read more »

Redtruth

PSG kicked Emery out because he didn’t win the Chzmpions league which is why it’s perplexing Mzn City holding on to Guardiola.

Words on a Blog

Marko,

Past comments only represent a slippery slope if a poster is determined to say something along the lines of: “I’ve always said player x or manager y was shit/great/saucy.”

But if you’re not too bothered about consistency over a long period of time, or if you’re happy to acknowledge that you were wrong, it’s no big deal. The fact is, facts change. And when they do, you’re allowed to change your mind. Also (surprise surprise) people make mistakes or get things wrong.

Champagne charlie

“No one comes out of it a winner, we can all change our views daily, some faster than others, that is life. No need insulting and ridiculing someone over theirs.“ Right, seems that’s just on selective topics though doesn’t it? How often has ‘when did you decide Wenger needed to leave’ been thrown about? There’s no slippery slope, everybody has an archive of dumb comments. But it’s pertinent when fundamental principles of an argument are changed within a year to suit a new pov being offered. A POV no less that has folk being labelled unreasonable, lacking nuance, hysterical etc.… Read more »

Marko

if you’re happy to acknowledge that you were wrong, it’s no big deal.

I know one lad incapable of it

Receding Hairline

Yea Charles its is a hysterical view point to say sack him now and bring in “anyone” .

Anyone but Emery is hysterical as it’s not a rational viewpoint.

bennydevito

Regarding Stevie G, even though I think he’s a very good shout, there’s absolutely no way he’s coming to us, not a chance.

He will stay at Rangers until Klopp moves on from Liverpool around the 21/22 season.

Champagne charlie

Receding

Agreed, but I think you’re treating things said out of frustration verbatim, or taking weirdly accepted daft views as representation for all wanting change.

Clearly not just anyone could walk in and do better. That sort of talk is merely said to illustrate a good many could, which I believe is the case.

We’ve just had our worst start to a season in 37 years, hard to argue there’s more competent coaches out there to handle our club.

Marko

Receding I do agree with you about some of the hysteria around Emery I personally have always been against attributing lies and bullshit to him in order to criticize him. In saying that he needs to go I don’t see him turning things around if given time.

Mgooner

Welcome to Arteta day

Remind me why we changed Wenger…to win the league s we were bored with top 4

And Wenger had money but would not spend it tight…

So how about hiring a dude like Enrique and giving him the money we hve to fight for the top spot. Tht imo would be better than Arteta as Enrique is tried md tested at the best club in the world and does not represent a risk

Batistuta

Except a bunch of names have been thrown around who’d while it’s not sure will be hugely successful at least get us to be much more organized on the field of play, make us harder to beat and have an identity…Emery’s been here more than a year and we seem to be getting worse under him….Don’t just scoff at every suggestion and say pay attention to those who say “anyone would be better”…. Lot’s of sensible posters have put up names and their attributes and what they’d bring in relative to our resources…

HighburyLegend

@Mgooner : I’m afraid I’m one of the few here who could agree with you.

Batistuta

Giving him more time only guarantees it will be too late to salvage the season league wise when he eventually does get sacked…One would have thought we’d gotten past our club execs taking forever to make vital decisions after letting Wenger stay a good number of years past his time….Now we’re here again looking to give more time to a manager who by all stats possible is failing quite badly….Shame we seem to always have incompetent folks running the football club

Words on a Blog

Anyone for Pulis?

…….anyone?

……..anyone????

HighburyLegend

Nope.

Marko

Dunno if Kike Marin is reliable but he maintains that Raul has sounded out Enrique. That suggests to me that behind the scenes they might be sounding out someone and if something happens he’ll be gone and if not it’s “100%” backing.