AFC re-message disaster briefing as Arteta rumours resurface

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Don Raul and Edu had a little rethink after their car crash leak to Ornstein about the fans being ‘noise’ bitches.

Their new angle is a little more nuanced, a little more ‘Arsenal class.’

“We are as disappointed as everyone else with both our results and performances at this stage of the season. We share the frustration with our fans, Unai, players and all our staff as they are not at the level we want or expect.

“Things need to improve to meet our objectives for the season, and we firmly believe Unai is the right man for the job, together with the backroom team we have in place.

“We are all working intensively behind the scenes to turn things around and are confident we will.

“We never take our fantastic support for granted. We hope we can all stick together and get behind the team in this challenging period, as together we are stronger.”

Take this intel as you will, the club absolutely know what a garbage fire the Unai Emery regime is. They do not believe the club is on the path to progress. They see it as we do. They know it’s highly unlikely his tenure can be saved. They are football people, they know in far more detail than you what’s going on, and it’s not pretty.

The above statement backs the manager, because at this point, there’s no choice. They can’t come out and call him a joke and explain how they’re going to replace him shortly, that my friends would be worse PR than telling the fans they are ‘noisy ass hoes.’

What you need to look for in situations like these are the stories that enter the media seemingly out of nowhere. We’ve already had The Times report on Raul’s dinner with Jose. That wasn’t an accident. It was a gross mistake, the culinary equivalent of waking up in bed with a damp box of donner kebab on your chest with Wayne Rooney licking your chili sauce stained fingers. Rest assured, that story was planted to let the fans know that ‘ideas’ are under consideration.

Yesterday, in part two of #FreshLeaks we had a hit of ‘Arsenal still interested in Arteta.’ The source appears to be The Sun and it seems a little too specific to be a clickbait job.

The message is either an accidental leak from the club (which I doubt), a trial balloon to see what the fans think after Unai ‘safe hands’ Emery failed spectacularly, or it’s a message to Arteta to smoke him out about the renewed interest. I certainly don’t believe it’s come from Arteta’s camp, because I doubt he has a camp at this stage of his coaching career. I also don’t think he’d want to make Pep look a chump for the second time running (especially during a slump), that might be a death blow to his fledgling coaching career at City. Remember, Arsenal disrupted his relationship with Pep last time when they flaked on him after bringing him to the final stages of negotiations. I also don’t think City would brief against a highly rated member of their own staff.

With the story rebubbling, I thought it might be a good opportunity to reassert my passion for a hire of his ilk.

Arsenal need a vision of football the fans can get behind. We’re not Allegri, Conte or Mourinho types. We’re a Wengerball club whether we like it or not, and that is built on foundations of exciting possession-based football. We should be hiring someone that can deliver that to the fans.

If Arsenal were a tech start-up, we’d be prying the best product visionaries from the best places. You can either try your luck with a Steve Jobs (I’m in the 2000s Apple, obvs), which is a fruitless/expensive task, or you steal one of his underlings, like Tony Fadell (iPod VP, left to work with a VC to bring Nest to life). That’s what the big boys do. They find people with less of a name, that have good reputations, and most importantly, the blueprints for success. If you can get 50% of a legendary name’s stardust, you are on your way.

Arteta has been with Pep during two of the most successful seasons ever witnessed in the Premier League. Manchester City found new levels of brilliance. Their attacking football has been a thing of beauty, fast, intricate and devastating. Their movement off the ball is exceptional, as a team, they’re winning the league on 98 points, making the least tackles in the league. They use a positional play on the pitch to force mistakes, think of the smarts needed to teach footballers how to do that. They play a brand of cognitive football we could only dream of (read).

Why wouldn’t you want the number two of the City winning machine at Arsenal?

Arteta is on the record stating the type of football he wants to play. This from the Arsenal Magazine in 2016.

“My philosophy will be clear,”

“I want the football to be expressive, entertaining. I cannot have a concept of football where everything is based on the opposition.

“We have to dictate the game, we have to be the ones taking the initiative, and we have to entertain the people coming to watch us. I’m 100 percent convinced of those things, and I think I could do it.”

“You can have an idea of a system, but you need to be able to transform it depending on the players you have – how much pace you have upfront, how technical your team is, what types of risk you can take and whether your players are ready to take those risks.

He also talks about having players 150% committed to the cause, how he admires Pep’s drive to look to the future of where the game is going, and how he looked up to way his PSG captain Poch built love with players. That was an exciting glimpse into his mind in 2016, imagine how his ideas have developed since?

This is a player that can speak at least 4 languages, including scouser. He’s an excellent communicator. It’s also worth noting that he didn’t shame us as captain, which is a small thing, but it shows he has values. He did a very good job for us as his career declined. We were still a CL team under his watch, whatever you think of his ability at the time, he helped stabilise us during a rough period that involved Andre Santos.

He has an excellent reputation at City for being an innovator, a mentor, and a brilliant coach. Pep widely credited his assistant for developing Raheem Sterling. Players and staff constantly talk about his influence and impact on their careers.

This is Pep in October.

“He has an incredible work ethic, and he has a special talent to analyse what happens, and to find the solutions, and we talk a lot about what he believes and feels and so on,”

“He’s an incredible human being, with incredible values about what it means in the locker room and to be together, and he is already an incredible manager and he’ll have incredible success in his future.”

Fernandinho:

“For me, especially Mikel Arteta, because he played in the same position as I play. So sometimes I have private chats with him to correct some positioning or something that is wrong.

Delph, who credited him with extending his career at City.

“I think Mikel would be a fantastic manager. When the rumours were circulating about him leaving, I was thinking ‘please don’t!’ We get on very well as do all the players and staff. We’ve got a great energy and that energy is similar to what we’ve got here with England.”

The PR wins rack up for a coach that Wenger, Poch and Pep competed for when he retired.

Some say he should go to a lesser club first, but why would you? This is Pep on Arteta.

“I’m pretty sure [he’ll succeed me]. He will have success,”

Go to Newcastle to prove to Barry on Twitter you have balls? Please. Man moved to Glasgow for his career, that’s all you need to know about his character.

With Arteta, we’d be hiring in Manchester City IP, with a player that knows and loves The Arsenal. Raul and Edu could be kingmakers, just like the Barca execs were with Pep G. The experience he lacks could be covered by a more experienced assistant and first-team coach.

Would he make mistakes? Absolutely. Would it take time to get things right? You are damn right. Would it be worth it if he succeeded? 100%.

Imagine being exciting by Arsenal again?

A lot of people like to talk up the failures of career assistants. Arteta is still only 37 years old. He’s punching well above his weight for where he is in his career. He is clearly special, an obsessive, someone desperate to succeed. He is in an elite category for young coaches. I do not think this is the same as Mike Phelan making a play for a first-team coach role at Derby.

We tried safe and by the book, it failed in spectacular fashion, like I predicted. ‘Safe’ isn’t a strategy. It’s cowardice. Why not try something with a bit of vision? Hire in a manager who is a bit of an unknown. At the very worst, we’ll be playing a coherent style of football, at best, we might have landed the next big name in world football.

We don’t need a has-been manager taking us to top 4 if that’s the ceiling. We need to find a coach that can work with the tools he’s given and coach our team into the future.

That could be Arteta. I think it’s a far more palatable option than the other managers on offer. The risk is lower than people think, and if it’s between the names on offer currently, it’s Arteta all day for me.

Right, that’s my piece, I’m running for my pelter shelter, see you in the comments.

P.S. Auba, fuck the noise bitches. The fans love you. Chin up, you’re our best player. x

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  1. HighburyLegend

    I sometimes wonder if Pedro realize that Arteta has spent most of his england career at Everton, not at Arsenal… Nevermind. (lol)

  2. Graham62

    Peanuts&monkeys

    I agree.

    “Sticking around with Emery will be Arsenal’s second biggest mistake after sticking around with Wenger after 8-2”

    Bloody hell, August 28th, 2011.

    Seems like yesterday.

  3. Batistuta

    Marko

    Thoughts on Enrique? Reeks of contacts rubbish for me, he’s barely done any good work aside of Barcelona which is a special case in its own…His time at Roma was horrible….Would be a very underwhelming choice, another “anyone but” type of manager…

  4. Receding Hairline

    Batistuta some say it’s already too late. Yesterday excuses were already on offer for the yet to be appointed successor. If you are changing him to then say “well he has already messed everything up” later then I don’t see the point.

    I personally believe he can salvage this season and then be on his way. I don’t want just anyone so that later I will be told how the damage Emery did was terminal and unsalvageable.

    Wait and get someone for the long term with a clear plan in mind or appoint someone to start building now and write off the season.

  5. bennydevito

    Valentin is absolutely spot on in his earlier post; sticking with Emery is only prolonging the inevitable and will leave us with virtually no chance of getting top 4 being 9 points away already.

    If we leave things until January we will have to win virtually every match for the rest of the season whilst relying on Chelsea and Leicester losing 3 or 4 matches and Spurs and Utd staying behind us. It’s extremely unlikely.

    It’s looking like we will be relying on trying to win the EL once more to get back to the CL but as we saw against Chelsea we are more likely to shit our pants when it matters most.

    It seems futile to me hanging on to Emery in the hope that he’s suddenly going to have a eureka moment and suddenly get us playing title winning form football to climb back up into 4th.

  6. guest man aka WW

    cannot see emery here past January. its the transfer window for players, so maybe a more fitting time.
    The results will not get better, except maybe the fa.cup or Europa as the players can get up for them.
    players are demotivated in the premier league…if it gets worse we could drop to a really embarrassing position.
    On the positive side…in 8 weeks we could have a new boss and say 3 players out and a couple in…

  7. Graham62

    No! No! No! to all these so called fantasy managers.

    If it was a straight choice between Arteta and Mourinho, it would have to be Arteta, all day long. Just too much baggage and too much bad history with JM.

    Personally, I would like Freddie to take over right now. Pedro’s inside take on Freddie not being up to scratch doesn’t worry me one jot.

    “Ivan is the real deal” didn’t work out too well did it.

    Let’s give it to FL right now.

  8. Marko

    Bati he wouldn’t be my first choice but I’d back him if he got the job mainly because Raul wanted him over Emery originally (reportedly) and he has earned the right to be trusted given the past summer imo. I also don’t understand why he gets so much shit for having a contacts approach I really don’t. Contacts got us Pepe and contacts got us Saliba and Martinelli this past summer. Oh and he was also strongly linked with Chelsea as well so I wouldn’t completely disregard his appointment. When you get people crying out for Howe and making a case for Arteta I really wouldn’t turn my nose up to Luiz Enrique who despite his apparent failings at Celta Vigo and Roma still managed to get the Barcelona and Spain jobs and still gets linked with the likes of us and Chelsea.

  9. Batistuta

    Receeding

    If we got in a new manager now, the mandate will be same, prove the results and get us top4 and maybe the Europa league as a cherry on top…The teams above is aren’t invincible so we can still catch up with them except City and Pool. Only excuse new guy might be allowed is that he didn’t have enough time with the squad which is why we can’t do any rookie managers at this point in time.

    Like that you still think Emery can turn it around but seen enough to know he won’t, if he does then good for all of us but think this break is probably the best time for a change to be fair

  10. Batistuta

    Marko

    I don’t know man, just never really convinced me as a manager but if he came and hit the ground running then wouldn’t have any complaints

  11. Un na naai

    alex cutterNovember 12, 2019 15:55:52
    “It just goes to
    Show that Bamford positions himself to
    Maximise the potential attention he will get through his posts rather than actually having any real belief in what he’s saying.He’s just an attention seeking machine.”Just shut up already. What fuck is wrong with you?

    Cutter!!! How are you man? You been ok?
    I’m thinking maybe you’re Bamford’s alter ego?

    In all seriousness how are you health wise? I’m not going to get locked in with you until I hear you are ok
    Thinking of you man. Thoughts and prayers
    Xx

  12. into the red

    Well, you’ve made a convincing case that Arteta is a good prospect. On paper. But paper potential doesn’t always survive the transition to reality, where managing involves a lot more skills than your coaching ability. In short, is he a Lampard or a Solskjaer? At least with Lampard, they had a chance to see what he could do, and he made his case. Arteta is a completely unknown quantity at the top level. He may figure once bitten twice shy and prefer to stay where he is, with the prospect of promotion in the future. Sounds like a better bet to me, if you were in his shoes.

  13. HighburyLegend

    “Arteta is a completely unknown quantity at the top level. ”

    Yes but what about all those success alongside the greatest coach the world has ever known ??? lol

  14. UTarse

    Allegri is still my preferred first choice but if we are going to go left field and gamble on a young fresh idea approach then it’s Naglesman….. I just hope that his English is of a good standard.. If it isn’t then PV4 for me ahead of Arteta.

  15. Valentin

    The doubt that upper management may have with Freddie is that he may be tainted by association in the eyes of the players.
    Also despite his success with the U23, his two stints as assistant managers have not be very successful. With his grumpy and snappy attitude, that must set alarm ringing against his appointment as care taker role.

    Whoever is the new headcoach will need to lift them up pretty quickly. Articulate a proper plan comprehensible by everybody and that the senior players will want to follow.
    In view of Aubameyang message (still unclear if it is a true message sent by him or some meme created by AFTV), there will be a lot of bridge building. Maybe a completely clean slate with somebody not affiliated with the current regime may be the better solution.
    Arteta would then be an easy choice. Already know Arsenal, the league and will be given a positive honeymoon period by most fans.

    Enrique does not fill me with trepidation. Will demand a high salary that with Emery sacking may not be affordable. Mostly failed as a manager, and at Barcelona despite the success had bad relationship with most of the players.

  16. Marko

    In short, is he a Lampard or a Solskjaer?

    Technically speaking as of right now he’s neither he’s a Gary Neville. Ole and Frank had managerial experience in Malmo, Cardiff and Derby for example. Mikel like Gary Neville and Henry had zero experience before getting big jobs and we know how they worked out. A stretch to claim he’d be any sort of guarantee

  17. Graham62

    Marko

    As it stands it is the logical solution. Give him the chance to show what he can do. Shite it can’t get any worse.

    His communication is top notch. He is respected by the players and he understands what we want and expect.

    Top 4 is out of the question now. Even its for an interim period, anythings better than the current shambles.

    Tell me Marko, why so sceptical?

    Why shouldn’t we give him a chance?

    He’s more Arsenal than Arteta and, significantly, he’s a winner and a legend.

    Also he’d be the best looking manager in the league. We need positives at the moment as well as someone to come on TV and say it as it is. My wife would also start watching football again( Ok that’s too many positives).

    What’s your opinion Marko?

  18. Champagne charlie

    “I personally believe he can salvage this season and then be on his way. I don’t want just anyone so that later I will be told how the damage Emery did was terminal and unsalvageable.“

    What gives you any impression he can salvage this season? And what doe you consider a savaged season?

    The following is from twitter illustrating matters as they stand:

    “If 4th place requires 75 points [average], Arsenal would need 58 points from their remaining 26 games.

    That’s an average of 2.23 points per game, equivalent to an 85 point season. “

  19. Unai

    I was 70/30 in favour of Arteta last summer, Rodgers was my number 1 although I’m nowhere near as sold as you Pedro and to be honest, I’ve kinda forgotten about him since.

    As things stand though I’d take Mark Hughes as manager, just want Emery gone!

    Today’s post doesn’t sell Arteta to me, I just dont buy into the Pep, City guff, I mean take the names out of the story and it could be about any current number 2 in world football but were now in ‘anything is better than this’ territory so what do we have to lose?

  20. Marko

    Tell me Marko, why so sceptical?

    As it stands it is the logical solution…His communication is top notch. He is respected by the players and he understands what we want and expect…Also he’d be the best looking manager in the league.

    I don’t think any of that qualifies as logical or enough to be manager. As I suspected zero substance just faff to what you say.

    How the fudge do you know that Freddie is snappy and grumpy with the players?Do you socialize with him or something?

    One could ask how you know those other things about Freddie but outside of reading tea leaves I doubt very much you do

  21. bennydevito

    G62, agreed. All reports coming from our youth players is that they love Freddie.

    Freddie temporarily then go for Ten Hag. If not Nuno Santo.

    Arteta
    Vieira
    Allegri

    No to Mourinho or Benitez.

  22. Un na naai

    MarkoNovember 12, 2019 18:03:08
    Tell me Marko, why so sceptical?

    As it stands it is the logical solution

    😂
    After his space exploration discussions this week, his love for nihilism/aversion to emotion and now this I’m starting to suspect Marko is a Vulcan 🖖

  23. Un na naai

    It was a gross mistake, the culinary equivalent of waking up in bed with a damp box of donner kebab on your chest with Wayne Rooney licking your chili sauce stained fingers. Rest assured, that story was planted to let the fans know that ‘ideas’ are under consideration.

    😂
    We’ve all been there
    Mine looked more like Steve Orgrizovic.
    Quality pepper he was by the way. Old skool

  24. Leedsgunner

    Arteta is going to look even more appealing now but doesn’t make him the right choice just because he would be willing to come and available.

    Arteta still is untested at the top level.

    Are we so undeserving and undesirable that we need to take a complete novice?

    Even if he has been learning from Pep all this time?

  25. salparadisenyc

    Leeds

    Many choices out there who’d have this club purring, biggest question for me is how many of those potentials are on Raul’s hit list to replace Emery.

  26. Chris

    Didn’t Ian Wright break Ogrizsovics nose in a challenge for the ball, if not someone else did, his nose was bent three ways

  27. Chris

    Watched a bit of the Monchengladbach game on Sunday and looking at that and their results recently I’m all for Marco Rose. Interim coach until the summer then go for him.

  28. Un na naai

    Pep and zidane were I tested at top level u til they weren’t

    They were impressive enough to be thought of highly

    Chris
    I think he did. He almost broke Peter schmeichel’s ankle too in 97

    Anyone remember the Robbie Fowler penalty at Highbury? He issued deliberately!! Fucking idolised Robbie Fowler as youngster.

  29. Pierre

    Paulinho
    “. Also if he had played Ramsey earlier on in the season he probably wouldn’t have been fit to drop those master class CM performances around March.”

    Yeah , the return of Ozil supplemented by a couple of surprisingly disciplined (though very good) performances by Ramsey , managed to save Emery’s season last time round.

    Unfortunately for Emery , he never learnt his lesson and repeated the very same mistakes this season, though I’m afraid the hole is way too deep this season for Ozil to come to his rescue again.

  30. Chris

    Un do you mean when Fowler went over but tried to tell the ref it was no pen? I remember, was gutted we lost that game, we couldn’t buy a win against Liverpool in the mid 90s, a bit like now really.

  31. azed

    “How the fudge do you know that Freddie is snappy and grumpy with the players?

    Do you socialize with him or something?”

    Graham

    Valentin knows everything.

  32. Un na naai

    Chris

    Yeaaah
    Seaman brought him down. No doubt. He obviously felt bad about it though. By today’s standards it’s a stone wall.
    He still missed and claimed it was on purpose.

  33. Pierre

    Arteta
    ““My philosophy will be clear,”

    “I want the football to be expressive, entertaining. I cannot have a concept of football where everything is based on the opposition.

    “We have to dictate the game, we have to be the ones taking the initiative, and we have to entertain the people coming to watch us. I’m 100 percent convinced of those things, and I think I could do it.”

    Music to my ears , not one mention of pressing , intensity , work, work and more work .

    Football that is expressive and entertaining ….yes please.

    And of course successful.

  34. Pedro

    Leeds, I’d take him in January if he could move. Far more enticing than the others on offer.

    I’m with Chris, Marco Rose looks the part.

    Bit of a question mark over whether some of those ideas translate when they move out of their domestic league. Hassenhutl not had a great time, though he was moved on by Rangnick I believe.

  35. TR7

    ‘Ishola – TR7 asked me (like he often does) to get me to be committal about something if I’m praising something he doesn’t like or whatever’

    Hahaha, there is no ulterior motive. I remember you not ruling out a title challenge if Ramsey, Welbeck, Bellerin etc. stayed fit till end of the season. I thought that was a very bold claim because we looked far from.convincing even during our unbeaten run, so I merely sought a reconfirmation from you. I know you have been consistent on Emery right from the beginning even though it’s high time you changed your stand.

    P.S : Not that anybody needed any proof that Bam is a fraud but Charlie thoroughly laid bare the agenda of Bamford by digging his old posts.

  36. Distant legrover

    Graham

    That’s a great idea. That’s probably why Arsenal wouldn’t do it, because we find great ideas suspicious.
    Agent : ” Oh here is Ronaldo and Messi, they can be the very best in the world. Would you like to buy ? ”
    Arsenal: ” Mmmmm yeah they look very good and so talented,sorry it makes too much sense, we ‘ll buy Berndtner instead”

    Seriously though we should fire Emery now and replace him with Freddie. At worst he would fail and we ‘ll just get a replacement at season’s end. That replacement could be Arteta.

  37. TR7

    Arteta would not be a high risk appointment provided he were appointed as our caretaker manager for rest of the season. We are out of reckoning for top 4 anyway. How worse could things get under Arteta in remaining 5-6 months ? Wouldn’t make much of a difference to us whether we finished 5th or 7th this season. But if he clicks, it will be like hitting a jackpot. The same goes for Freddie too.

  38. Distant legrover

    Enrique just give off that Emery vibe. Pretty similar record too. Will he turn out to be a Pep or an Emery ?

    It’s crazy though that there is no British manager out there good enough to be considered.

  39. Gentlebris

    So Pedro thinks we should throw an Arteta who has actually never managed a team at any level before into this messy hullabaloo?

    Oh-oh, what a great vision.

  40. salparadisenyc

    TR7

    Agree, Arteta almost became a bad word on here which is now somewhat funny considering how poor Emery has been. This season quickly becoming the perfect testing ground to blood a manager in such as Arteta.

  41. azed

    If we are getting a manager from outside the EPL, we need that manager to come in this season and get used to the players and EPL so that come summer, he would know what he needs.

    I would not mind the Wolves manager right now.

  42. Valentin

    Azed,

    If you were to physically attend games you would know.
    At the start of the season he was a happy bunny willing to do selfies and sign autographs with fans.
    Since he does not do that. He snapped at people who try to talk to him.
    On TV look at his demeanour during games. He used to be animated and talked to the youngsters. Now he just sat there and say nothing. Once in a while he gets in an argument with the fourth official.

    Don’t believe me, then go and Talk to people at the club and they will tell you the same thing. Freddie is now rarely in a good mood. Pedro may be able to confirm that is part of the reason why inside the club people have turned against the idea of him being caretaker manager.

    I remember last season stating the same thing with Steve Bould. I even mentioned that he had had a fallout with Emery. You all said that I was lying. Three weeks later it was announced that Steve Bould had requested a job swap with Freddie. You don’t change job especially if it can be construed as a demotion if you are happy with your current situation.

  43. bennydevito

    PierreNovember 12, 2019    18:46:45

    Paulinho
    “. Also if he had played Ramsey earlier on in the season he probably wouldn’t have been fit to drop those master class CM performances around March.”

    Yeah , the return of Ozil supplemented by a couple of surprisingly disciplined (though very good) performances by Ramsey , managed to save Emery’s season last time round.

    Unfortunately for Emery , he never learnt his lesson and repeated the very same mistakes this season, though I’m afraid the hole is way too deep this season for Ozil to come to his rescue again.

    >>>>>

    Yeah this isn’t true though. He repeated nothing because it wasn’t his decision to leave either Ramsey or Ozil out, it was Raul’s.

    We’ve been over this so many times, but here you are yet again trying to make that lie stick.

    Not happening.

  44. TR7

    Distant

    Yes, Freddie has a stronger claim to replace Emery than Arteta. My only submission is if we appointed any of the two, it would not be a disaster. This season is over for us. We don’t have much to lose.

  45. Graham62

    Marko

    What the fudge on you on about?

    Tell me why Freddie is not a good fit?

    My argument is based on getting Emery out now. Which is logical.

    Rather than mock, why not try to explain why Freddie is not a good fit at this stage?

    I won’t bite.

  46. bennydevito

    As for Ozil, not exactly ripping it up is he?

    Ozil, Ramsey, Wenger; they’re history now, and at 31 we can and must be doing better than Ozil.

  47. Marko

    Emery failing doesn’t all of a sudden make Arteta any less of an unnecessary risk or actually better. Literally zero evidence that things would have been better or the same or worse had he gotten the job. Really pointless still making the case for him because since 2018 his situation hasn’t changed one bit still the same issues and are we desperate enough to give him the job? With Enrique, Allegri and Marcelino available? Still a no for me. Platitudes aside he hasn’t done anything to deserve the job

  48. azed

    Valentin

    Have you ever considered that he is snappy because the team is not doing well?

    As the following
    I even mentioned that he had had a fallout with Emery. You all said that I was lying. Three weeks later it was announced that Steve Bould had requested a job swap with Freddie.

    don’t let me dig out your comments.
    You said Freddie was forced on Emery by management and told its Bould that requested for job change?

  49. Marko

    Tell me why Freddie is not a good fit?My argument is based on getting Emery out now. Which is logical.

    So anyone then. Why not the lad who cleans the bog at the stadium? Freddie’s not a good fit because he’s not a manager and I see no reason why someone so inexperienced and unqualified should get the job.

  50. Marko

    This season is over for us. We don’t have much to lose.

    Absolutely ridiculous thing to say. Dumb in fact. Chelsea leaky as us play Liverpool next in the league while we’re home to Southampton and they’re 8 ahead. A new manager can salvage the season absolutely dumb to experiment because we have nothing to lose.

  51. Graham62

    Valentin

    Sorry mate but has your brain had a malfunction?

    Let’s say Freddie is fed up and agitated. Why do you think that is? Would it have anything to do with the fact that he may be annoyed with Emery, just like all of us and that he’s not being listened to?

    Bould had that same look under Wenger.

    Shite I’d be fudging snappy and grumpy if I was working with Emery all day. He’d drive me mad.

    I even get snappy and grumpy just knowing that Emery is still at the club.

    Maybe the solution is to get Freddie and Steve Bould to take over.

  52. Un na naai

    Benny

    You made some good points last night
    But then you almost countered them yourself and Pedro annihilated you.

    The problem is with you is that you’re inconsistent

    You need to stick to something and adhere to it. Don’t be Bamford

  53. Un na naai

    MarkoNovember 12, 2019 19:21:39
    This season is over for us. We don’t have much to lose.Absolutely ridiculous thing to say. Dumb in fact. Chelsea leaky as us play Liverpool next in the league while we’re home to Southampton and they’re 8 ahead. A new manager can salvage the season absolutely dumb to experiment because we have nothing to lose.

    Wtf??
    Yet again i agree wit marko

  54. salparadisenyc

    Marko I don’t see:

    Ten Hag
    Nagelsmann
    Marco Rose
    Fonseca

    Moving at the mid point of the season, in the end its all discussion as Raul will likely take a pass on all opting for Enrique/Mourinho or maybe Marcelino if were lucky.

    Season not dead yet.. no hand break needed.

  55. Paulinho

    TR7 – I never said anything about a title challenge before you asked me. I posted a quote earlier roday talking about squad versus 1st XI(the post that prompted you to ask about title tilt) and because I mentioned the 07/08 team as an example, you inferred I was talking about a title challenge because that team challenged up until March. I wasn’t, I was merely using that side because the first XI were so good.

    Still haven’t changed my mind;)

  56. Graham62

    Marko

    “Freddie’s not a good fit because he’s not a manager”

    Who frigging cares?

    Emery’s a manager and he doesn’t fit.
    Wenger was a manager with 22 years experience and he didn’t fit.

    Is that all you can come up with, that “he lacks experience and is unqualified?”

    Bloody hell, if “the lad who cleans the bogs” speaks English and understands the fundamentals of the game, which I guarantee he probably does, he would be a better fit than Emery at this moment in time.

    What’s your solution oh wise one?

  57. Unai

    “Season not dead yet.. no hand break needed.”

    Mathematically it’s not dead but you only need to watch us play to understand were in the mire.

    I was happy to Emery the season but on current form, I’m struggling to justify keeping him at all.

    It’s over, time to move on, even if that means a punt for the rest of the season, at least it will be exciting.

  58. TR7

    Words

    1. At City even if Arteta impresses for 6 months as an assistant manager, he might not get the gig in next 2-3 years whereas at Arsenal he is very likely to get a new 2 years contract if he impresses as a caretaker manager.

    2. Emery has set the bar very low for his successor. All Arteta will have to do.is to extract more from our squad than Emery has and get the team to play some decent football. At City not only is there an uncertainty over his future but also if he gets the gig he will have to follow in the footsteps of Pep which is never going to be easy.

    3. A caretaker role or even a full time manager role at Arsenal doesn’t preclude Arteta from taking over from Pep when/if there’s an opportunity.

  59. Valentin

    Graham,

    My point exactly. Freddie is snappy. I have not speculated about why. For all I know, it may be due to some personal reason outside of work.

    However if you are management and you see the assistant headcoach being stressed out like that. Would you give the headcoach job to him where he may be even more stressed?

    Regarding Steve Bould. I did not talked about his demeanour. I wrote that he had had some kind of fallout with Emery, because I was told so.
    Steve Bould then organised with Freddie the job swap. Raul accepted the proposal that had the added benefit to help create a better link with the promoted youth team player.

    Emery was told of the swap. He could not just refuse it. Initially reluctant to have Freddie impose on him by Raul, he then saw the benefit in having Freddie who knew the young players.
    Both Raul and Emery have since confirmed that the swap was initiated by both Bould and Freddie and that they went to Raul to discuss it first.

  60. Graham62

    Chelski as leaky as us!!!!!!

    What the hell are you lot on?

    As it stands, Chelski are head and shoulders above us in every aspect of their play.

    They will go into the Liverpool game brimming with confidence. Well go into the Southampton game scared shitless.

    We need a change now or else it’ll be too late.

  61. Cesc Appeal

    Yeah, Rose, Tuchel and Ten Hag would be my picks.

    All of them have question marks over certain aspects.

    Tuchel is the most ‘elite’ out of them and would likely have the most demands.

    What we really need is someone who believes in a pressing style, high work rate from his players, builds a team toward that and cultivates an environment of tenacity and loyalty to the cause.

    One of my biggest gripes with Emery and something that really turned me away from him was the fact he abandons everything. Arrived with ideas of a high line and high pressing and abandoned it all (our press stats are worse than under Wenger), he dumped Ozil then abandoned that, he spoke about being high tempo protagonists and the abandoned that for a deep block etc.

    We need a coach in that Klopp mould who will just stick to their guns. Klopp took flak early on, look at the rewards now.

  62. Marko

    What’s your solution oh wise one?

    Actually hire a manager. It’s not hard to get Graham simply saying who cares isn’t a logical argument either

  63. Marko

    Chelski as leaky as us!!!!!!What the hell are you lot on?As it stands, Chelski are head and shoulders above us in every aspect of their play.

    Leaky as in defence as in they concede as much as us. Are you okay did you forget to take your meds or something?

  64. TR7

    Marko

    Merely suggesting there is little downside to appointing Arteta/Freddie at this stage provided it is a caretaker manager role. Not recommending them per se, just that it wouldn’t get any worse under them than it is now. This season is well and truly over. Any two out of Leicester, Chelsea and Spurs will take the 3rd and 4th position.

  65. Paulinho

    “he spoke about being high tempo protagonists and the abandoned that for a deep block etc”

    I think there is an element of him adjusting to the counter-attack heavy personnel we have and sitting deeper at times as part of a strategy, or at least being receptive to drawing teams onto us.

    Aubameyang & Pepe thrive in space, Xhaka’s main purpose seems to be sitting deep and threading balls through to players in space, and Luiz is (supposed) to be a good long passer.

  66. CG

    Every day , Freddie stands by this nonsense – he is just as culpable as The Clown and Co. for our humiliation and demise.

    If he cant see he is being used by The Spiv – he is just plain stupid.

    The Spiv will drop him – like he did with Ramsey and Co.

    If he had the cojones like he allegedly has in his lunchbox he would say to The Spiv.

    “”””Give me the job until the end of the season now or I am off out the door today””””

    He would undoubtedly get the Arsenal job and every Arsenal fan on his side.

    Frankly, he is looking more ridiculous and tarnished as the weeks go by.

    History dont look too fondly on cowards.

  67. terraloon

    Chelsea’s next game is against Man City not Liverpool. Chelsea have let in 17, the same as Arsenal. Chelsea have a GD of 10 Arsenal have a GD off minus 1.

  68. Un na naai

    Paulinho October 22, 2018 21:53:17
    TR7 – I fear we are not good enough to acquire the required points against top sides to mount a title challenge, but we definitely have the squad to consistently beat everyone outside the top six. United won the league doing that a few years back so I wouldn’t completely write off a challenge“ Wouldn’t completely write off a title challenge but we don’t have players for top 4 these days. Alright mate 😂

    Paulinho

    Explain. You plonker

  69. Graham62

    CG

    Ffs, he’s been in position just a few months and he’s already a “coward”.

    You dipstick.

    Just to remind you, your favourite coward hasn’t found a job yet.

  70. Un na naai

    Graham

    Excuse me, I do however think what marko was getting at is that we are very much stilll on for top 4 under not just the right coach but a decent coach
    Emery is dog shit
    Even marko has conceded
    That’s his point
    Chelsea are better all round but under emery their defence is worse on paper

  71. Marko

    This season is well and truly over. Any two out of Leicester, Chelsea and Spurs will take the 3rd and 4th position.

    Oh for fucks sake do you actually hear yourself. The season’s over for us might as well write it off no point in trying to salvage it. Meanwhile Spurs below us don’t have to worry plenty to fight for. Probably helps having the 3rd best manager in the world otherwise they’d be in serious trouble sitting in 14th. FYI they’re 12 points behind Leicester 11 behind Chelsea. All to play for really. We should just roll over though

  72. Un na naai

    PaulinhoNovember 12, 2019 20:03:44
    Don – I already have you cock.

    Fwoar. Don’t get upset mate. You’ve humiliated yourself. Your bull shit predictions have no been proven as laughable as they seemed 18 months ago.

    Best he’d to the deli alpi and hope Ramsey makes an appearance
    Another cunt who’d rather Be right than see Arsenal successful

  73. TR7

    CA

    You can rule out Tan Hag for now. I don’t think any manager in the past has left his team in the middle of a CL campaign to join a club in Europa.

  74. Hitman

    We sat on our hands when likes of Pep & Klopp were available.
    Paying the price now. No obvious replacements. Most of the new breed mentioned are unproven and overhyped. Personally I’ve gone right off Euro mangers. Must be Brexit effect.
    UK manager or with Arsenal DNA please.
    I’d take a punt on Henry/Freddie caretaker combo until end of season.

  75. Paulinho

    Don – Charles thought by dredging up that quote that he had exposed some contradiction, when he hadn’t, because I’ve always maintained last year’s squad was better than the squad we have this year.

    You humiliate yourself every day failing to grasp basic arguments.

  76. Marko

    A big club or a club competing for a title there’s no way you could snare a manager from them. But Fonseca at Roma given they’ve a habit of going through managers and Rose at Gladbach given its Gladbach I see no reason why we couldn’t nab one of them. But Arsenal has a tiny dick so they’ll just look for what’s easily available

  77. WengerEagle

    Monchengladbach gaffers are always the hipster choice.

    Why do everyone have hard one for Bundesliga managers anyhow? It’s arguably the weakest top 5 Euro league, just shades Ligue 1 but French league had just as much talent.

    Plenty ripe for a picking in Italy and Spain.

  78. Words on a Blog

    Paulinho,

    Not sure how you can maintain that last year’s squad was better than this year.

    For two-thirds of the season, Holding, Bellerin and Welbeck were not available.
    And for at least a third of the season (the business end) Ramsey was injured.

    And that before you factor in the new arrivals and the youngers coming in this season.

  79. Words on a Blog

    One key thing to factor in (what a first!) is that we are still shit despite the fact that we have no one (except Reiss Nelson) injured.

    With all due respect to Reiss (and I rate the guy) he is at present not key to the squad or the first 11.

  80. Pierre

    Benny
    “Yeah this isn’t true though. He repeated nothing because it wasn’t his decision to leave either Ramsey or Ozil out, it was Raul’s.”

    Dont be daft

    Do you honestly believe this … it just doesn’t make sense , and if it doesn’t make sense then it’s not true.

    If a manager cannot be trusted to choose his own starting line up then he is a lame duck manager.

  81. Pierre

    WOB
    “Paulinho
    Not sure how you can maintain that last year’s squad was better than this year.”

    Now let me see..

    Last season Ramsey was in the squad and this season he isn’t..

  82. Paulinho

    “For two-thirds of the season, Holding, Bellerin and Welbeck were not available.
    And for at least a third of the season (the business end) Ramsey was injured.”

    I know, which was why I constantly stressed at the time the importance of everyone staying fit, and everyone at that time was fit. Of course in the next month we lost Bellerin, Holding, Welbeck, and our hopes of top four completely extinguished when Ramsey got injured. As I said earlier, we stayed unbeaten during that period because Emery aggressively rotated made big decisions such as dropping Ozil for more industrious options.

    Anyway, I’m fine with you disagreeing, it’s the fallacious misrepresentation of historical opinion that is the issue.

  83. Gentlebris

    Raul and Edu would be willingly throwing our points away if they allow Emery to play another game.

    Emery is done for now. I would advise him to take a year off and come back with a club like Everton. Maybe he could still make something out of his career that way.

    To continue to put a man as lost as that in charge of a club as big and as prestigious as Arsenal is tantamount to sabotage.

  84. Batistuta

    Why would anyone think our season is over in November? I mean i get the anonymity towards the manager but the season is far from over and anyone we’re having take over now has the same top4 task as the current gaffer….

    Let’s not already start making excuses in case we go and hire the hipsters choice and appoint a novice

  85. bennydevito

    Pierre,

    I get what you’re saying but with regards to Ozil and Ramsey it was more about the exorbitant contract and demands. Obviously the head coach would pick the team but if he’s not in charge of the contracts or the football direction of the club like Raul and Edu are then he may have to follow orders from his senior officers.

  86. bennydevito

    Un na naaiNovember 12, 2019    19:24:17

    Benny

    You made some good points last night
    But then you almost countered them yourself and Pedro annihilated you.

    The problem is with you is that you’re inconsistent

    You need to stick to something and adhere to it. Don’t be Bamford

    >>>>>

    Go on then, what are you referring to exactly?

    What did I counter myself and where did Pedro annihilate me exactly? He absolutely did not whatsoever but I’m interested to hear your take on things?

  87. Paulinho

    Pierre – That’s not even controversial is it.

    A fit Rambo contributes more than all our summer signings combined.

  88. Danny S

    Benny

    You are very correct. No matter how much a manager wants a Player, if that player isn’t financially viable then he will be forced to let him go.

  89. Gentlebris

    Raul would appoint Jose but he has to consider the Arsenal roughnecks who hate him and they are many.

    So;

    Bring Bould and Freddie together and put them in charge for the rest of the season.

    Then begin to do your homework from now till the end of the season.
    We can’t afford to get it wrong at this point.

    So if I Couldn’t suggest Jose, I would suggest;

    Steven G.
    Brendan Rodgers.
    Conte.

    In that order.

  90. Pierre

    Benny
    The thing is,
    If raul had instructed Emery not to play Ramsey and Ozil last season , then who’s decision was it to reinstate them back into the side in March .

    Did Raul change his mind and instruct Emery to pick them or did Emery decide to go against Raul’s instructions.

    The same can be said for the treatment of Ozil this season.

    As far as I’m concerned, Emery picks the team and rightly so , a manager lives or dies by his decisions .

    Emery is well within his right to not select Ozil or Ramsey , but if that decision doesn’t work then ultimately his decision making should be questioned.

  91. salparadisenyc

    Marko

    “So Sal you think we’re left with no other option than Arteta? Come off it.”

    Not sure how you pulled that out of “its all discussion as Raul will likely take a pass on all opting for Enrique/Mourinho or maybe Marcelino if were lucky.”

  92. Mr Serge

    I would take arteta if he has some magic pep dust rub off on him I am all for it
    Lampard has done great at Chelsea hopefully we get that from Mikel

  93. Pierre

    Danny s
    “Were you not a huge critic of Ramsey’s before?”

    My comment “Now let me see..Last season Ramsey was in the squad and this season he isn’t..” was said through the eyes of Paulinho.

    I never criticised his ability I was more a critic of Ramsey’s indiscipline in a 2 man midfield , which was also a criticism of the then manager for allowing him to play in such a way.

    Emery actually managed to install discipline into Ramsey’s play from march onwards and I was very complimentary of his performances at that time ..was a pity he was injured when the manager took him away from the central midfield to play him as a CAM.

  94. Bamford10

    If Arteta took over today, we’d be in 14th place by February. No chance he would do well with the weak squad we have. He’d try to play the one approach he knows — which requires world class footballers — and it would fail miserably. Until we have better players and a more coherent squad, we need someone who can do many different approaches, many different set-ups — and get results. Ironically, Emery is actually quite a good fit in this respect. We won’t be top four again until we have much better players, and that’s probably still two years away. That’s how bad a state Wenger left us in.

  95. Bamford10

    We have the seventh best first 14 in the PL at best. All of the below have better players than we do:

    Chelsea
    Leicester
    Spurs
    United
    City
    Liverpool

    Our central midfield options are poor, our CB’s are old and slow, and our forwards are far more limited of players than their price-tags imply.

    Emery is no Klopp, but this squad is really poor.

  96. Champagne charlie

    “We won’t be top four again until we have much better players, and that’s probably still two years away. That’s how bad a state Wenger left us in.“

    We finished level on points with 4th LAST season you turnip.

    Literally only missed out on 3rd because we couldn’t do better than a 1-1 draw against the 17th place side in the league, who were home and hosed for the season and had heads already in Marbs.

    Can we do one of your player vs player breakdowns for Brighton to learn how player poverty fucked us that day?

    Distinctly remember playing awful for 90 minutes, witnessing a game plan that saw more than 40 crosses attempted, and a desperate triple sub late in the day from Emery.

    But you were saying about players?

  97. Bamford10

    Churlish

    “We finished level on points with 4th LAST season you turnip.”

    Well, we were one point back of fourth, and this only because Emery managed to get the sixth best squad in the league to overachieve.

    As for Brighton, right, it turns out that players like Mustafi, Xhaka, Kolasinac, Mkhitaryan, Ozil, Lichtsteiner and Sokratis are not good enough to get a result against a Brighton. You can sneer at them all you like, but Brighton are ahead of your Harry-Kane-led Spurs at the moment. Like many other 6-12 PL teams, they are a good team. And the Arsenal players I named above are and were simply not up to snuff. Indeed, even Lacazette and Aubameyang weren’t up to snuff that day. That wasn’t on the manager. That was on player quality.

  98. Valentin

    The best we can reasonably hope is for our rivals for top 4 to collapse.
    Leicester to suffer injuries that cripple them. Something like Vardy or Ndidi being unavailable for a big chunk of the season and suddenly Leicester could be in free fall.

    If Chelsea goes far in the Champion’s League that may take its toll on them, but Lampard is likely to be able to rotate enough that any slump would be limited.

    I predicted that ManUtd would finish ahead of us and I will stick to that prediction. Not that OGS is a great manager. But that he has them playing counter-attacking football and that they have three players in De Gea, Podga and Martial who can help them win game while still playing awfully. If DeGea don his Superman cape to keep everything bat bay, all ManUtd need to win a game is a long ball over the top from Pogba and Martial or Rashford to latch on such ball and score.

  99. Bamford10

    Charlie

    Wager: Arsenal don’t finish top four next season, no matter who their manager is. Loser takes six months off of Le Grove.

  100. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    Utterly clueless. Already made a cunt of yourself talking about player poverty in terms of Leicester, but you’re extending that to 17th placed Brighton of last season.

    Wonders never cease with you. When did you get diagnosed lad?

  101. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    Your insecurity is rife, you’d shit your pants walking the streets of London if your attitude on here is anything to go by. Can only imagine the ptsd you’d get from attending a match and being sat anywhere near the opposing fans.

    Skin like fucking tissue paper, you take everything on here entirely too seriously it’s sad.

  102. Pierre

    “.Emery is no Klopp, but this squad is really poor.”

    Have you ever thought of getting professional help…

    You are putting a lot of blame on our recruitment team

    200 million spent in 12/14 months and I presume you regard it as money down the drain according to your derogatory comments on our recruitment.

    Personally, I believe 4th spot is attainable with this squad, just need a change of manager sooner rather than later.

    We can quite easily win the next 4 games (with a change of manager) and be within touching distance of top 4.

  103. Ishola70

    Valentin
    “The best we can reasonably hope is for our rivals for top 4 to collapse.”

    lol.

    How do Arsenal address their awful EPL away record which now stretches back to 2016?

    It’s a subject that many don’t like to address because it shatters their illusion that Arsenal are just a coach away from greatness.

    I think personally it’s a case of a few first teamers having to be brought in as well as a change of coach.

    Should Arsenal veer away from the notion of “Wengaball” which was mentioned on here again today? We all want to see players of a certain technique but this being the ultimate requirement maybe should be ditched. More focus on physicality and stamina.

    This team for a good few years can’t handle the added press they face when they play teams away from home. So to try to allay this weakness in facing the press when playing away they play more conservatively but they don’t have the overall team to be good counter=attacking away from home. Double-edged sword. Get mugged when they try to play more attacking away from home, not good enough counter-attacking wise playing more on the break.

    Existing first team players that can be alright in a counter attacking team?

    Aubameyang
    Bellerin
    Tierney
    Pepe

  104. Valentin

    According to you know who, Arsenal had a worse squad than Brighton. Brighton barely avoided relegation. So Arsenal should have finished below them and get relegated. So the fact that Arsenal did not got relegated is entirely due to the managerial brilliance of Emery. Nothing to do with the players.
    Now that has been sorted by our Harvard genius, can we get back to the real world and stop taking seriously the elucubrations of a demented mind clearly beyond help.

  105. CG

    Arsenal will not be top 4 for at least 5 years- regardless of who is charge.

    We are set for a Decade in the Doldrums.

    The Damage has been done.
    the squad and soul has been gutted by the Spaniards.

    (Spaniards ruin everything. Always have done- they cant help themselves,
    Spanish Dave will tell you.)

    We are too old or too young and take your pick amongst this lot:

    too slow
    too injured
    too disillusioned
    too much scar tissue.
    too one footed
    too depleted

    Do the wonderful (and they are wonderful ) folk look at our squad.
    It is so bloody ponderous.

    This season we will finish 8-10th

    next season- you think we are usurping?
    Liverpool/Man City and improving Chelsea and Man Utd.

    We have not got a dime left.
    We cant even pay the Clown and his Goons off.

    It is so bleeding obvious we are in total freefall.

    We have had the good times – under Wenger- I thoroughly enjoyed them all
    Good and Bad

    Shame – half of you didn’t at the time.
    Because trust me- its as good as you gonna Get.

    Good ebening

  106. Champagne charlie

    “It’s a subject that many don’t like to address because it shatters their illusion that Arsenal are just a coach away from greatness.“

    Who thinks this? Sounds suspiciously like a load of bollocks.

    Care to name the posters that think we’re a new coach from greatness?

  107. Ishola70

    Well Charlie posters thought the team would easily get into top four with the signing of Pepe so there is definitely an over-rating of the side itself as well as Emery not being the man we want.

    You don’t easily get into top four until this awful EPL away record is addressed which stretches back now a long time.

  108. PhD2020

    Coco’ The Clown”
    Struggling to understand,if we have crap players,or players not good enough for the system(whatever that is) and Emery is somehow hamstrung with the players recruited this summer to the tune of £200m..

    Then,one question has to be raised-who is accountable for the players purchased,that have made us unable to compete for top 4 this season?

    Is it Raul?Is it Josh?Is it heaven knows Silent Stan?Is it Vinai?Is it the Holy Trinity?

    Who does the buck stop with?

    Especially,if we’ve had 18 months to evaluate the weaknesses in our squad from the last season,taking into account our rivals would strengthen also..Or is the ‘information gathering’ a perpetual state of affairs?

    It’s all good preaching player poverty one season,and then the next season,build your arguments around to paraphrase you-“Our players are not good enough to achieve top 4,”despite the (your eyes by the way-must be blind)eyes telling you that we are better organised,better disciplined compared to Wenger’s last season…Even though every metric going,contradicts what your eyes tell you.

    Your arguments-Coco ‘The Clown’ don’t seem to be coherent and/or/consistent..

    And even if they were,surely there must be someone held accountable for poor player recruitment from your end?And if so who or whom?Of which you have not even acknowledged or laced/integrated into your arguments.

    Or are you afraid to criticise the modern structure and the owner,who helped put together this structure by hiring the competent people in the first place to kick on from when Arsene was forcibly retired?

    Is your romanticised allegiance to your bedfellows so deep,that you can’t extricate your pursed infected lips from their anal rectum?Or is their nether regions wedged firmly in your mouth?

    Are you so blinded by your resentment to Arsene,that you have become-well special..Special in the sense,that you might need some kind of lobotomy reserved for your kind..

    Cheers!!

  109. Valentin

    Ishola70,

    I never said that this team is well balance. I am under no illusion that this team is great either. In fact I am one of the few who complained about the recruitment.
    In my view there was 4 position that needed improvement.
    A defensive midfield with stamina and power who could play on the half turn. I kept banging on NDombele instead of spending money on a luxury like Pepe.
    A Left footed or on the left side CB. Even if Koscielny had stayed, he would not have been able to play a full EPL season without breaking down. Unfortunately Mavrapanos seems to be made of Balsa and when back is rushed not ready to perform.
    A goal keeper who can use his foot to make medium to long chip to the midfield. The new wave of goalkeepers help bypass the pressing by being able to accurately pass the ball up to 40 meters. Despite having the highest number of mistakes directly leading to a goal in the EPL, Leno is a decent keeper. However in a team that tries to play from the back he is a liability with extremely poor distribution.
    I thought that Monreal would stay an extra year with us and that therefore the left back position was the less urgent to fix.
    Nothing has since changed. That is exactly why I disagreed with those who stated that we had a great TW.

    However even if not perfect and unbalanced, the squad is severely underperforming. We should be between 7 and 10 points better off. 2 PTS dropped against Spurs and Watford. Inexcusable defeat at Sheffield United. A draw or defeat against Leicester would have been acceptable if the performance had been good.

  110. Champagne charlie

    “You don’t easily get into top four until this awful EPL away record is addressed which stretches back now a long time.“

    Away games are traditionally the greater test of a managers acumen. You’re not comforted by familiar surroundings, you’re outnumbered in the stands, and the opposition have a leg up in terms of energy.

    Why have we been poor for 2/3 years away from home? Because we’ve not had a manager that can take a team anywhere and confidently contain the opposition. Wenger couldn’t muster a plan for us off the ball and the less said about Emery and defending the better.

    So it’s dead simple to me, we falter away from home because our defensive organisation, shape, approach is tested more readily than at the Emirates where 90% of sides sit back in fear.

  111. Valentin

    The away Blue stems from three main factors.
    1) We don’t have a proper athletic defensive midfielder
    2) our setup is so wrong that it put us even more on the back foot. Having two unathletic players facing three taller, more dynamic central midfield means that we are overrun in the centre. Our defense is then constantly under bombardment and in the end concede.
    3) because that same scenario keep repeating itself, the players start to lose confidence in the process. That become a self fulfilling prophecy. One goal and we mentally collapse.

    The only to fix that is to first resolve point 1 and 2. Get a proper DM in the winter TW. Install a proper coach who can properly organise the team. Get some draws, so confidence come back. Then get some victory.

  112. Ishola70

    Valentin

    Emery is seen as failing because he isn’t atm winning home games that are expected to be won.

    We can all see that the team is not playing well overall but there wouldn’t be such a furore regarding Emery at this time if he had stumbled to home wins over Crystal Palace and Wolves. Crystal Palace match as we know could have easily turned out a stumbling win instead of a disappointing draw.

    The away record is as you were. Same since 2016. Awful.

    Fans seem to have accepted now that Arsenal can be a CL team just because of getting a healthy points total from EPL matches. They shouldn’t accept it because Arsenal are not going to improve to any great extent until they get in a few players and coach that will see them improve on this dreadful EPL away form.

  113. MartinellisHead

    Banford

    Seriously you have big problems in life to go on the way you do.

    Get a girlfriend or a boyfriend and hopefully you’ll be a different person.

  114. Ishola70

    *Fans seem to have accepted now that Arsenal can be a CL team just because of getting a healthy home points total from EPL matches*

  115. PhD2020

    MartinellisHeadNovember 12, 2019 23:29:37
    BanfordSeriously you have big problems in life to go on the way you do.Get a girlfriend or a boyfriend and hopefully you’ll be a different person.

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    I think it would be hard-pressed for Coco-‘The Clown” to attract either genders.
    Why,you may ask?

    Well,I think for one, he is an ever-present babbling buffon(hard for any gender to take him or it seriously).And secondly,he’s a social cripple.So,that rules out any kind of informal or formal relationship with humankind.

    I mean just see with your eyes,what unfolds on a daily basis on Le-Grove for almost half a decade.

    PS
    Regrettably,it is entertaining though,once you start to not take him seriously.
    The self-awareness is sorely lacking to put it politely.
    Woe is me…Infamy,infamy,they all have it in for me..lol