1 week, 1 month, 1 season. No one can agree the timeline

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The media is alive like a pit of vipers, all looking for their hot take on a story they don’t yet have. A little like some of the nonsense that was fed into the airwaves when we were hiring for the Wenger replacement. It makes for interesting reading, dependent on how you want to spin it for yourself.

The through-thread I’m hearing is quite simple: We don’t have a plan.

If you take that as your north star, it makes it easier to work out what’s real and what’s fantasy.

I am more inclined to believe the stories that Arsenal are not going to budge on ousting Unai Emery, namely because there’s no suitable replacement candidate, and there’s been no detailed undertaking of what’s in the market at the moment.

It’s also important to remember that Unai Emery is Don Raul’s man. When Arteta lost out because Ivan G lost his nerve, it was our lead football exec who brought Emery in for the magical interview with the powerpoint dossier. He’s attached to Unai, there’s either going to be a level of faith in his hard skillz (lol), or there’s going to be a level of stubbornness in the decision.

You also have to remember that Arsenal are not fast movers. Mountains of evidence supported Wenger being a busted flush, but things didn’t move against him until the stadium emptied out and the finances started to weaken. It’s very rare that a manager has ever been as bad as Unai Emery and turned things around. It is in the Kroenke DNA to really, really, really make sure the manager they have in charge is completely useless before they pull the trigger.

I’d also be paying attention to the reality of our finances. We pulled money from next season into last summer to make the big fancy signings happen. That was the financial trick. There’s probably an element of worry with firing Emery: ‘Do we really want to spend upwards of £12m to fire the coach and the 6+ people he brought along for the ride?’

I was told at the start of the season the chances of Emery being let go early were very slim. In fairness, I’m not sure anyone thought things would be this bad, this soon. There are some stories saying that he’ll be out the door if he loses next weekend. I think that’s fanciful. The bigger concern is that a lot of papers are saying he’ll be given a month to turn things around.

I worry if we go a month, it’s going to be impossible for any caretaker to get things back on track. The best choice if we did that would be Freddie Ljungberg, but that’s hugely risky. Bringing in a young coach to take over in a crisis isn’t ideal.

I’ve done to death the Jose Mourinho counter-argument. There are fans saying that talk of ‘values’ is weak sauce and that we shouldn’t pay attention to things like that.

I really dislike this line of argument. ‘Values’ when used to deflect a lack of competitiveness is unacceptable. Arsenal tried to tie the two things as inextricably linked during the bad years because it made for easy reading to the soft fanbase who saw Wenger as their daddy.

‘Chelsea may have trophies, but where’s the class? Not for me’

When we’re talking about values and Jose Mourinho, the commentary has more grounding in reality. You really are attacking who you are as a club when you make that appointment.

But honestly, fuck the talk of values. That is the last thing on my list of why nots when it comes to hiring in Jose.

The man is finished as an elite level coach. Just look at his idea of modern football. Look at the footballing output at United having spent £300m+.

‘But did he have a say on the players?’

Can you IMAGINE Jose Mourinho at United’s Pleasure Island for Faded Managers NOT having a say on players? He’s literally one of the most powerful coaches on the planet. He would have had total control over decisions. He is a King. He lives off his once elite reputation as the Special One. He had control, and while Manchester City were out there creating the next generation of cognitive football, he’s making excuses about the lack of investment and defending his painfully dated footballing philosophy.

Don’t worry about values people, with Jose Mourinho, it’s lose/lose. You’re bringing in the most toxic man in world football, and by the way, he’s going to crash your club within 2 seasons, likely with little to show for it.

Arsenal are in this situation because they hired a coach based on an objective.

‘Get Champions League’

We didn’t hire a coach thinking of the 3-5 year plan of where we planned to take the club. We weren’t thinking about how to be competitive. We just hired in someone based on his glamourous previous job.

The fans will now demand our next hire is a ‘proven winner.’ But it’s the wrong way to look at it. Hiring a winner took United to LVG after David Moyes. It then took them to Jose Mourinho. Now they’re in all sorts of trouble because the correct decision was a young innovative coach, but when they finally made that decision they did it based on emotion, not smarts.

We built a global brand playing stunning football. We are not currently capable of behaving like a superclub. Arsenal has a golden generation of kids coming through. We have a squad built for attacking football.

Our next hire needs to be mapped to our reality.

There is no point in hiring the archetypal ‘winner’ because that sort of reputation is ALWAYS tied to a chequebook manager. We can only afford to work with one of those types on the way out of the top tier (Jose). We need to make our gains by hiring in someone that can outperform our resources. That has to be a coach with ideas, someone that’s happy to work with what is on offer at Arsenal, someone that wants to grow into a king.

Right, that’s me done, see you in the comments.

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Graham62

CG

The shed is no more.

BobN16

Sorry, it’s in the blood.

Guns of SF

and one other thing… FL is an invincible. I know for all the pragmatists out there this means nothing But there is something to be said about a fan favorite and connection. Emery has none with the fans… Even Wenger had more…even in the dark years. FL would be like a shining light coming through the clouds.. I think the fans and spirit will rise with him in charge. Look at Fatty Frank- he is one of them… you cannot discount that Sentimentality plays a part in team spirit.. and team spirit is what we need- been sorely lacking and… Read more »

Graham62

give it to Freddie.

It’s a no brainer.

salpardisenyc

TR7

“I think we should go for a new interim manager for the current season and address the managerial issue next summer.”

Who you fancy in this role?

Vintage Gun

Emery needs to be gone as soon as yesterday if not sooner.

I’ll hold my hands up and admit that i was in the “Give him a second season camp” as sacking him after finishing one point and one match (EL) from meeting his objective,

However, i don’t need a donkey to kick me in the balls to know it’s a donkey.

Emery’s a decent manager, very decent but for me he’s an underdog type in that he struggles to set his team up to play on the front foot. FAR to pragmatic for us.
He’s Everton/Seville level.

#Hedidlackthesauce

Graham62

CC

Of course he didn’t.

He is exonerated of all guilt.

👍

Graham62

Freddie over Arteta all day long.

Pierre

Sorry un, it needed to be done.

I took dogs abuse from the know nothing’s on here for my , what proved to be , correct calls .

Ozil is the latest correct call …the fans singing his song is like music to my ears.

Guns of SF

Pierre Ozil is way too slow- his time has come and gone. Still a good player but the style of play has moved on… we have a conundrum with him in the team- we are trying to play more aggressive/presssing modern game, and Ozil is an old school number 10 He does not fit the puzzle. Just look at the palace and leicester game… look at those midfielders… they are the new generation. fast aggressive and skilled. For all his talents, his limitations are a hinderance to what we need in our midfield. I am also convinced Dani is not… Read more »

Spanishdave

ASAP for me if the club think he will achieve something in the next four weeks
then it just about sums them up.
We are not your normal club, we are huge world wide and it’s a big job that needs a quality manager and not a prospect type manager who will probably fail.

Redtruth

AKB’s are out in force bitching over Emery.
Wengerball is over, the club has moved on into a new era……..

BacaryisGod

Let’s get things clear about Pedro’s position on Emery. To his credit, he came out strongly against him early but we have to also remember that he started backpedaling last season as Arsenal got off to both a fast start and were holding a lengthy undefeated streak. Now he’s back to where he was at the beginning which he’s fully entitled (and right) to do so. Funnily enough, I think we’ve only lost one in the last eleven matches but it feels so, so much worse than that. The reasons are simple. We have had a soft Europa schedule and… Read more »

CG

It looks like the only way we can pay The Clown and his Goons of and counter the shortfall in revenues due to the lack of Cl football next season is to sell players.

Dont be surprised if Saliba is sold off to pay for the above horrendous mismanagement.

the prodigious Saliba aint gonna be hanging around mid table Arsenal when Real Madrid come knocking……

We are in a desperate and dire times!

(but at least we have each other,)

salpardisenyc

Red T

Big fella its not just the “AKB”s bitching over Emery’s incompetency.

Peckobill

The ozil conundrum is an easy one to answer Should and could we do better than ozil?- of course we can Have we currently got better than ozil for that role ? – absolutely not Until he’s replaced and upgraded I see little choice but to play him just stick with the 3 forwards around him in the 4-2-3-1 and have he 2 sitting Auba up top , pick 2 of Pepe , Saka , Martinelli as inside wide men between the full and centre backs , 2 of guen , torr , ceballos and willock to just sit and… Read more »

Guns of SF

hey CG

You are back and believe it or not, we can agree on something.
FL for manager right?

CG

G of SF

The job is too big for Fred. (Although he does pack a punch allegedly)
He can galvanize the troops for a few weeks.

But We need a Red Adair figure to fight the fires that are and will engulf us soon.

jose/rafa or wenger.

Take your Pick.

Guns of SF

CG

All of those sound not too good for me. Especially Wenger.

Doubt that Raul signs Mourinho
dont think Bayern will sign him either BTW

Rafa- not so sure either.

We need to have someone who can get the spirit back or Arsenal. Who else than FL for now.

We need to get back to our attacking instincts as well…

So lets see what happens next

Guns of Hackney

Harry Redknapp crashes clubs.
Jose Moriniho crashes clubs.

I guess HR would be cheaper. Let’s get him.

Jose only because it would upset the Arsenal fans. And that’s a good thing.

Arteta.

Redtruth

Pierre
“Someone should have asked themselves when appointing Emery, what do we need to make this work.. He wants to play a completely different style of football but we do not have the right players to make it work and insufficient funds.”

Same goes for Ozil who is only useful in a team on
top of it’s game.

DigitalBob

CG – Freddie or Arteta long term is a risk I’d be willing to take, even Rafa over the short term is an improvement.

Arsene’s had his day and the same goes for Jose.

Peckobil – Yep they said that was one of the issues with Arteta in that he had no backroom staff, maybe he can bring some of Peps backroom with him.

TR7

Sal There are limited options if we are going an interim manager route. Freddie,Arteta, and Rafa are some of the names which spring to mind. Rafa is a good manager but he is not going to be a revolutionary manager. Good organization at the back is perhaps the only instant value addition that you can expect from him His brand of football is not very exciting. Arteta vs Freddie ? A club legend in Freddie ignored for the top post even as he is technically the current no 2 at Arsenal for a person who doesn’t match his stature as… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

No backroom staff?

What exactly does that mean?

That’s like starting a new job and not bringing in your own iMac and servers.

What a load of bull. Who comes up with this BS.

Peckobill

Red ,
Your spot on there but unfortunately you’ve seen how bland and isolated our attack is this season and emery has tried just about every other player he can in that role and it’s failed . With our squad right now he absolutely got no choice but to play him

Peckobill

Guns
Just about every manager

Guns of Hackney

Brendan Rodgers. Right.

Still on this tip?

Strange how 16 months ago, one man mentioned Arteta…then two and that was it. Mad ridicule bordering on the abusive but now, quite a few Johnny come lately’s are on the Arteta train.

You’re rats dancing to a tune. Pathetic.

DigitalBob

Guns – I think its one of those things that “some” see as a bonus. Bringing in an all new backroom goes hand in hand with refreshing the teams tactics and direction……..supposedly.

Sam Allardyce and Sammy Lee used to travel hand in hand, fucking up clubs and collecting compensation across the land!

TR7

Sanllehi, along with Vinai Venkatesham and Josh Kroenke are reluctant to make a change and internally there is a determination not to go through a flurry of managers like United have done since Sir Alex Ferguson retired [@JamesOlley]

Bye bye to CL, Laca and Auba then.

Guns of Hackney

A manger surely could find a team. Not necessarily have a ready made one.

My god, who did Arsene bring over from Japan in 1995? Exactly.

Arteta could ask anyone he thought could help and they would come.

Ready made teams???? That speaks of laziness and an unwillingness to actually work.

I’d rather someone comes with no arse lickers.

Guns of Hackney

DB

I do not find it a bonus. Read previous post.

CG

Dig Bob

“”””Arsene’s had his day and the same goes for Jose.”””””

replace Arsenes name or Jose’s with Mohammad Ali

they said the same thing about Ali in Zaire in 1974

Washed up., has been, past it., blah blah blah

he beat Foreman in the Jungle

it is was Champions and Legends can only do

A Champion is a Champion is a Champion
A Clown is a Clown…….

rafa/jose/ wenger ARE men top of their game.
(Huynecks was winning trebles for Bayern at 70!)

They would all be brilliant appointments.

Its only football
keep it simple.

Peckobill

Bob ,
It’s not what “some “ of us see as a bonus it’s what actually happens . You really believe pep , Klopp , Jose go to each new club just on their own . Well ok then ….

Guns of SF

yes I think FL for now, and see where we land. Summer time might be better for the new coach if we completely tank this season.
one thing for sure, id rather have FL trying to lead us than Emery ball.

Guns of Hackney

Who gives a fuck if Auba leaves? Shithouse. Tall haired twat.

Sell the cunt for £70m. He’s 30. Done. Sell the squirt, Laca for £65m. He’s shit.

Take the £130m+ and get the manager of our dreams and invest in our very talented youth.

Let Saka and Martinelli lead the line. Why not.

Let’s have a squad with an average age of 20 and rip shit up. I’m fed up with us being so boring.

Un na naai

Tr7

Both are unknown quantities. However arteta has been at the top end of the best team in England with the world’s best coach for 4 years now.

Experience wise that’s got to piss on what Freddy has accumulated.
Reputation wise arteta again. Pep rates him highly. City rate him highly.

That’s good enough for me

Un na naai

Goh

I agree. We are going nowhere anyway this season. He’s 30 and he’s worth £70m
We could buy two players have his age for that. We could buy 10 Martinellis

Un na naai

Half

He does nothing for 95% of the time he’s on the pitch anyway.
He’s wasted under a coach like emery. He and Lacazette are clearly looking to better their options elsewhere
No attacking player worth their salt wants to play under someone like emery

Guns of SF

Unnai Dont drink the Kool aid too much man. Why would they let Arteta leave then? Of course any team, “rates” their assistants highly. Would be stupid of them not to say that in the media. Why has Arteta not looked to leave to be the number one elsewhere if he is so rated? Where is HIS ambition? wait for Daddy Pep to retire so he can be a shoo in? That to me says something… I mean how much is he learning for being at City for a few years? Do a Vieira or TH, and cut your teeth… Read more »

CG

Doesnt PEA need Laca his hair?

Un na naai

Goh

I’d be willing to lose one in Jan. Not both. Quality strikers aren’t easy to come by in today’s market. I take solace that we have Martinelli, Saka, nketiah and the rest coming through. There’s talent there
We need to support it

Guns of SF

When Silva gets canned at Everton lets see Arteta take over the reigns… would be good for him, and or course, was his former team.

Redtruth

Raskolnikov “In addition to all this though AT I am sorry to return to a familiar theme but I have to: the stupidity of Arsenal fans. Remember when we were told Ozil HAD to play, because errr….he made a few nice passes at Anfield, against Liverpool’s 4th choice kids, in a game Arsenal didn’t even win? Well. Ozil played and guess what? No assists. No goals. No use. He did fuck all. Ozil will NEVER make the difference but it shows you how clueless Arsenal fans are that they still think it’s 2010, and Mesut Ozil is seen as a… Read more »

Un na naai

Guns

Maybe he’s on a promise at city
Maybe he’s not found the club he wants yet. He was going to leave to join us. Is that not ambitious for a man who’s never managed a club?

Guns of Hackney

Un The basic rule of most business is sell when your asset is at its peak. Auba is never getting any better and if United want him, sell him for £60m+ and upgrade Saka and Martinelli to first team starts. What a shot in the arm for those two. If Laca wants to follow his bum boy, so be it. He’s shit. I don’t care what people say, he’s a bang average Wiltord. If we could get £120m for those two, I’d have it. We could literally reinvent the whole squad for that. New manager, saliba joining, new midfielders, new… Read more »

Un na naai

Rt

You are such a ponce!! Do you ever ever genuinely have a thought pop into your head that doesn’t belong to someone else?

Cut paste repeat
It’s all you do.
Like CC said, you get your footballing opinions downstairs, from your mummy

Un na naai

Guns

Haha. Stand down soldier. Laca is certainly not shit. Outrageous stuff from you tonight. Simply outrageous

Guns of SF

Unai,
I dont think so, a lot of managers want the Arsenal job. its a dream job. Just like Arteta has a connection with pep, he does with Arsenal, he has not really gone out of his way. He is staying in the comfort zone.

Let him go to Everton… lets see what he can do there.

alex cutter

“The media is alive like a pit of vipers, all looking for their hot take on a story they don’t yet have…”

As if you’re somehow above this.

Guns of Hackney

Un

The story is that when Pep moves, probably to Juventus (rumour) he will insist Arteta gets the job.

He green lit Arteta going to Arsenal ffs. This whole “puts the cones out” shit is so lazy. Does anyone think that the best manager in the world has someone who puts cones out as his no.2?

Dumb fuckers.

Guns of Hackney

Un

Let’s agree to disagree old friend.

Laca doesn’t do it for me. I find him awkward to watch. Sorry.

Redtruth

Raskolnikov “Problem is, I don’t know who they bring in. Allegri? LOL yeah I don’t think a man used to top class players like Zlatan, Gattuso and Bonucci is going to enjoy working with weak as piss shits like Xhaka and Ozil. Freddie? Could be another ridiculous Solskjaer scenario. He has no experience. Maybe you listen to those fools over at Le Grove and get their beloved ARTETA in, and watch another joker with zero managerial experience flounder, spectacularly (then Le Grove can write a blog claiming they never, ever asked for Arteta to be appointed).” “The whole scenario at… Read more »

Ishola70

TR7 “Sanllehi, along with Vinai Venkatesham and Josh Kroenke are reluctant to make a change and internally there is a determination not to go through a flurry of managers like United have done since Sir Alex Ferguson retired [@JamesOlley]” “Bye bye to CL, Laca and Auba then.” The key word in that tweet is reluctant. Doesn’t mean out of the question. If Emery tanks against either Southampton, Brighton or Norwich in the next upcoming games after Leicester then they can be forced into action by overwhelming fan backlash. Will he tank against these teams? Possibly Norwich away. But the team… Read more »

Redtruth

Raskolnikov “Problem is, I don’t know who they bring in. Allegri? LOL yeah I don’t think a man used to top class players like Zlatan, Gattuso and Bonucci is going to enjoy working with weak as piss shits like Xhaka and Ozil. Freddie? Could be another ridiculous Solskjaer scenario. He has no experience. Maybe you listen to those fools over at Le Grove and get their beloved ARTETA in, and watch another joker with zero managerial experience flounder, spectacularly (then Le Grove can write a blog claiming they never, ever asked for Arteta to be appointed).” “The whole scenario at… Read more »

DigitalBob

Peckobill – You bring in your own guys as a manager but its by no means a deal breaker for me if its only couple of assistants and that’s it.

I took it as Raul, Edu etc preferred the idea of having Emery and his entire PSG team come in and sort us out than Arteta and a few no name guys.

Redtruth

Raskolnikov “I like Emery and I am not one of these moron Arsenal fans who has a pop at him just because he isn’t their beloved Arsene Wenker, but the club cannot afford to miss out on CL again. Seriously. Spuds are in crisis mode. ManYo are so shit I couldn’t even describe it as crisis, just a circus. A total circus. So no Spurs, no ManYoo. Top 2 places are a lock, so who is it Arsenal should be worrying about competing with? Leicester?? AGAIN?! I know Leicester have better players than Arsenal but that is more an indictment… Read more »

Ishola70

Allegri is not a particularly good idea. I know people see him as being the kind of coach that will help the team defensively but I would question his overall hunger in comimg to Arsenal. He could well turn out one of those coaches that just come over for the pay packet. He has been winning league titles with the biggest club in Italy for years and competing to win CL titles. Whether we like it or not Arsenal will be a downgrade for him and that aspect is a worrying aspect in appointing him. Personally I don’t think Allegri… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

I’d have Niko Kovac. A good manager with a really aged team. Germany has a conveyor belt of manager talent.

We have to do something fresh. Arsenal are like that puddle you have had in the garage for 20 years. No matter how hot the weather is, it’s always still there…dank.

Samesong

Ishola

You do know Brighton whooped Spurs 3-0. The way we are playing I wouldn’t put it past them to beat us also.

HighburyLegend

Good news for all those who say NO to Maureen : he apparently takes very serious lessons to speak… German.

Ishola70

Samesong
“You do know Brighton whooped Spurs 3-0. The way we are playing I wouldn’t put it past them to beat us also.”

It’s a home match though Samesong. Not playing them on their own turf.

Don’t get me wrong I can’t see this team having an easy ride against any EPL team atm but failing to beat the likes of Brighton and Southampton at home is plummeting to even lower depths in comparison to failing at home to a team like Wolves.

Samesong

Ishola I hear you.
Maybe if there too over confident we can whoop their arses. But hats off to their manager is it Potts?

Do you think the guys are confident about beating at the moment? I cannot see our next win at the moment because we concede too easy.

Valentin

I would a slight preference for Freddie for two reasons. First, Freddie has experienced being in charge of a team. It was only the U23 team, but being the guy in charge has more pressure than being No2. Being able to make the right call at the right time is a lot more difficult than being able to give the right advice knowing that either way your head is not on the block. Pressure can get to you and make you act in way you did not expect. That why you see so many great No2 just fell flat when… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Emery is Stuart Houston.

I’ve just thought of that.

Peckobill

Guns
😂😂 That’s emery in a nutshell , Houston , Moyes , villas boas all clones of each other

Valentin

Samesong, Last year Arsenal did not beat a Brighton that played conservative football under Chris Houghton. Under Potter they are more likely to fancy their chance against us. That could play in our hand because that would open the game. But that could also play against us by exposing our poor defensive organisation. If a counter-attacking Wolves can get 21 shots against us, I can see a charged up Brighton having an even higher number. Any team facing that number of shots is bound to concede at least one goal. I suspect that we may even concede two. And when… Read more »

Ishola70

Samesong “Do you think the guys are confident about beating at the moment? I cannot see our next win at the moment because we concede too easy.” Southampton at home. But even then as said we could well still concede in that match but win with both teams getting on the scoresheet. If he fails against Southampton at home and failing means not winning then the shit will really hit the fan. Leicester away? Most of the footballing world have Leicester down to win that match and they are favourites so if Arsenal go down there the powers that be… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

PB

The same DNA. Hire the guy before the guy. Hopefully our next manager will be our ‘Arsene’ after Houston and Graham.

Emery is the stepping stone. Hopefully.

Ishola70

Valentin “Last year Arsenal did not beat a Brighton that played conservative football under Chris Houghton” We all know that Arsenal can go down to any EPL side away from home. Anybody. And as said before playing these teams nearer the end of the season when they are many times fighting for their lives against relegation can be trickier than playing them mid – season or before. Arsenal failed to beat Brighton at home last season near to the end of the season with Brighton fighting for their EPL lives. Fail to beat Brighton at home in beginning of December… Read more »

Gentlebris

‘Now they’re in all sorts of trouble because the correct decision was a young innovative coach, but when they finally made that decision they did it based on emotion, not smarts.’ Bullshit. You can’t say what United needed was a young coach and then claim they hired one but they weren’t smart about it. If what they needed was a young coach with Manchester United DNA then they acted very smart, in fact OGS is far more appropriate for United than your proposed Arteta is to Arsenal. The reality is that a young coach who wants to build a major… Read more »

Valentin

Ishola70,

I think that this is a better Brighton than last season. Right now every teams in the EPL think that they have a shot at beating us even at home.
Both Palace and Wolves were disappointed of not beating us. In the end we were hanging to salvage a draw.

Ishola70

Gentlebris

“Bullshit.
You can’t say what United needed was a young coach and then claim they hired one but they weren’t smart about it.”

Of course you can.

You don’t just hire a coach because he is young.

Solksjaer was on a very much downward trend managing in Norway after not shining in England previously.

CG

G Bris

“”””Say what you will about Jose Mourinho but the man has the experience, the charisma, the toughness, the cleverness and the winning mentality to stabilize us.””””

My- you have come on Leaps and Bounds!

Splendid, splendid, splendid!

Ishola70

Valentin
“I think that this is a better Brighton than last season. Right now every teams in the EPL think that they have a shot at beating us even at home.
Both Palace and Wolves were disappointed of not beating us. In the end we were hanging to salvage a draw.”

Possibly they may be better Brighton this season but as said before a Wolves and a Crystal Palace playing away from home would be seen as more trickier matches than Brighton at home mid-season.

Failing to beat Brighton at home mid-season is lower levels of failure.

Champagne charlie

“Allegri is not a particularly good idea. I know people see him as being the kind of coach that will help the team defensively but I would question his overall hunger in comimg to Arsenal”

Haha Le grove is quality.

Ishola70

Charlie waves the poms poms unsurprisingly.

He will now tell us why Arsenal are a bigger club than Juventus and this will see Allegri being ravenous for success at Arsenal.

Going from CL to Europa League.

Going from Serie A winners to only top four contention.

Gentlebris

‘Leicester away? Most of the footballing world have Leicester down to win that match and they are favourites so if Arsenal go down there the powers that be will just give the line that Leicester are a good team that are playing very well atm.’

If the guys running this club are thinking like that then Arsenal is dead and buried as a top football club.

But I don’t think Josh has such a loser’s mentality. An heir to a big business empire will never think like that.

Peckobill

Guns I hope so it’s getting bad for me , in the second half of wengers tenure I got angry with the old git but with emery I’m starting to get bored . Bored is the worst place one can get in regards to it’s an entertainment business and Emery sucks the life out of the match day experience . Even before the game starts it’s a groan when you see the starting line up and the cup games have held the only bit of excitement for me this season . While I’m on that note what’s with the rediculous… Read more »

Gentlebris

*are dead

Ishola70

Gentlebris ‘’If the guys running this club are thinking like that then Arsenal is dead and buried as a top football club.” You always seem to not want to face up to reality and look to be living in a well past Wenger wonderland when the team were top end. Leicester are favourites with the bookies to beat Arsenal for a reason Gentlebris. They are on better form and looking at the two teams Arsenal don’t scream out better overall side. That’s not to say Emery can’t surprise us all and get a result there but it doesn’t look great… Read more »

Samesong

Ishola

Can very well see Emery going with the trusted two of Luiz and Sokratis 😆

Might be A Jamie Vardy party. He always scores against us.

Samesong

And if we don’t sort out the defence we are going to get a battering one of these days.

Graham62

It doesn’t matter who Arsenal play at the moment, the players are not playing for Emery because he is totally clueless.

Leicester, Brighton, Sheffield United, CPalace, Wolves.

It makes no difference.

Every game is a struggle.

Samesong

It makes no difference.

Every game is a struggle

G62 Agreed

Graham62

Samesong

Cheers.

Sorry about our prior spats.

Ishola70

You can still struggle and not impress overall but still notch up victories.

We have seen plenty of those type of matches from Emery at Arsenal as well as the failures in not winning matches.

Even if Arsenal do get nine points from the matches against Southampton, Norwich and Brighton no-one is going to be really convinced that a corner has been turned. There will be those that will want to portray it as such but more will want to see more proof of a turn around than that.

Graham62

Brighton are a far better team this season.

Will cause Arsenal a fair few problems.

Ishola70

How impressed have you been with David Luiz Samesong since he has joined Arsenal?

Have you been impressed with his leadership, experience and defensive qualities?

Graham62

David Luiz looks disinterested and is playing in cruise control.

Imo, he’s already made his mind up regards Emery.

Champagne charlie

“Charlie waves the poms poms unsurprisingly.He will now tell us why Arsenal are a bigger club than Juventus and this will see Allegri being ravenous for success at Arsenal.“ I’m telling folk nothing about Allegri, ill leave you to be the hot link to his psyche on here. Appears you’re quire familiar with his entire thought process and motivations. Here I am humble and stupid to think elite managers engage with projects and aren’t solely about trophies. But alas, you’re absolute in stating Allegri will only go to a bigger club than Juve, so short list he’s got to choose… Read more »

Words on a Blog

Cc,

ah, didn’t know that the Chinese season was about to end.

So if we’re playing it safe and going for experience, then it’s got to be Rafa.

Otherwise if we’re going for a “project” I’m indifferent as to whether it’s Arteta or Freddie.

Ishola70

Graham62
“David Luiz looks disinterested and is playing in cruise control.Imo, he’s already made his mind up regards Emery.”

Well he made his mind up pretty quickly didn’t he because he has been shit defensively for the most part basically from the off.

Words on a Blog

At this stage I would take:

Benitez
Allegri
Nunon Espirito Santos
Graham Potter
ChrismWilder
Ahead of Emery

Ishola70

lol David Luiz is a subject that many don’t like to dwell on or take on board.

tbf there are posters on here who see him for what he is but we get just as many posters like Graham on here making excuses for him.

The number of times David Luiz has been beaten like a toddler when players run at him since he has joined Arsenal is frankly embarrassing.

Frankly Mr Shankly.

Victorious

Mr bland sacked yet?

If no why?

Can we just not pretend to be a football club for once

What a fucking joke this football club is becoming

Guns of SF

Folks, our midfield is a big question for me. Not only do we have the Xhaka drama, The mids are completely non effective it seems now. We defend in numbers and in attack, we are slow and pondering. Most of the time its pass to the open man, and dribble around the box incessantly. Its Wengerish all over again. That is why we need to start players like Saka Martinelli and even Nelson, – at least they can beat their man, and shift the ball in more technical way to throw the defenders off. Guen dani and Xhaka and LT… Read more »

Major_Jeneral

Gentlebris
Good point made for the argument that Mourinho is a good option.
Arteta must prove himself elsewhere before I can actually rate him.

Do anyone fancy Ralph hassentaul of Southampton (not sure if I got the name correctly)

The way I see it Arsenal will make one more wrong Manager signing before we get it right.

Victorious

Club fast turning into a joke and obviously not acting like a football club

Guns of SF

Leicester number 10 is what we need. Power pace, and fearlessness. How many times did Maddison get fouled with his movement? He also dished out plenty as well as timely slide tackles. This coming from their number 10.

We need a player like this… The way Leicester carved up Palace was awesome… and this aint no fluke.

Redtruth

Victorious
“Club fast turning into a joke and obviously not acting like a football club”

The clubs been a joke for more than a decade….you AKB’s twat

Guns of SF

Fucking OFF THE BALL Movement –
A coach who can get this right… we need that person.
Predictable and slow on offense. Defend in numbers and leaving gaps.

The best teams are the ones with players who instinctively do this- the old Manure, and Pool<, City, Leicester now… even spurs have a more cohesive offense.