Xhaka showing Emery who’s boss with lack of apology.

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So I basically caused a revolt in the comments section with my ‘crazy’ views on Unai Emery last season. I called out the basics like language issues, the negative football, and the fact he lost a one horse race at the richest club in the world. I highlighted his dismal defensive record at all his clubs , I found damning quotes from his explayers, I brought ‘sauce’ into the common vernacular… I’ll cut to the point, I basically did the due diligence Arsenal failed to do on our bland hire.

Every melt under the sun abused me. Two of my London friends pulled me to one side last Christmas and told me to behave because I was taking the criticism too far.

‘Emery is good, look at the results. I think there’s something wrong with you?’

Now all of a sudden, the world has realised that I was correct (again), but are they talking about Le Grove? No, they’re talking about some handsome ESPN journo who strung some tweets together in 2018 at the same time… like he was the lone voice.

‘Isn’t it spooky how accurate this obscure handsome man is’

It’s a fucking disgrace. I now know how Xhaka felt on Monday. At least when he was being booed, it was for slow-walking and telling the fans to fuck off. I’m serving up 30-yard football insight screamers, people are seeing them, criticising them for being tap-ins, and… hold on, I’m lost here. Basically, the internet is shit. Everyone was there to call Le Grove a DISGRACE during the unbeaten run, but no one is there rolling out the OH BOY YOU WERE RIGHT RED CARPET now I have been largely proven right.

I don’t even like high praise anyway, fuck you. Fuck you.

*throws shirt to ground and storms down the tunnel*

No, I will not fucking apologise Unai, you cheese on GOOD EBENING toast melt.

Talking of Xhaka, Sami Mokbel said Arsenal are offering the Swiss counselling. I really don’t know where to go with this sort of commentary. If he genuinely has mental health issues, I’d leave this alone, but we live in a culture of amateur psychologists (thank you, Mr Ganesh), so it’s hard to tell what is real and what makes for a trendy headline. We all go through rough patches when we’re performing badly at work, is that not just feeling shit about being a bit shit? Does it always have to be something deeper? I’m honestly not critiquing mental health here, but I do find people’s amaeteur diagnosis and assumptions as damaging as ignoring them. Everyone cited Ozil as being depressed last year and it was totally made up.

Anyway, dealing in facts, the player has entered day 3 and he’s refusing to apologise. He also took time out to rile the fans by changing his Instagram profile picture to one of him in a Swiss shirt. I have to say, that was a zinger, our group chat went wild over that one.

The overarching feeling is the player is acting like a 14-year-old.

There are a lot of people claiming we shouldn’t need an apology as fans. You’re right. I fucking hate apology culture. It’s a real leftwing pass time in America, people love a ‘THEY MUST APOLOGISE’ outrage, then the apology comes and some obscure charity that campaigns for the rights of people that work as Christmas elves tweets ‘NOT GOOD ENOUGH’… I digress. The apology isn’t for the fans, it’s for the manager.

Unai Emery, to be fair to him, has mostly done this by the book. As Matt on the podcast pointed out, his poor English maybe lacked some finesse, but overall, he condemned the action and said it was wrong. The fact Xhaka hasn’t come out and apologised has made Emery look weak, and that’s unforgivable from a captain… especially when the manager put his career on the line by giving the armband to him in the first place.

The apology is also for the club and the people that pay him. We’re a community-based club. We have values. We preach class. Xhaka telling fans to fuck off is not a good look for the brand and it’s not a good example to set to kids (think of the children!). Shit is going to happen in your life, tantrum-ing like a kid and telling everyone to fuck off is embarrassing and it shouldn’t be passed off as ‘he’s just human.’

Do that in a client meeting when you’re told your ideas are a dumpster fire of human excrement, you’re out the door. There are literally no arenas where that sort of workplace prose is tolerated in front of clients. I have to say, when you work in a factory, you can say what you like to each other and ‘banter’ is always a mitigating circumstance, but still, not in front of clients and it’s important to note, this was not in a factory.

As for the fans making out this is going to cost us players in the future, bitch please. Arsenal is in north London, we have a sweet stadium and whatever sympathy you feel towards Granit, recognize he’s earning more than you and he thinks you’re a peasant. Fuck it, I think you’re a peasant just for retweeting that handsome man’s super great insights THAT I ALSO HAD BUT WITH MORE DETAIL.

Back to my point. The apology issue is now an Emery issue. A hot-headed moment might be forgivable, an insolent refusal to rectify the mistake and change the news cycle is not. The manager now has to act, and I’m afraid he’s going to have to remove Granit from his duties or look even weaker than he already does.

… and seriously, if you were any other manager in world football, you’d be doing cartwheels if there was an easy out for removing Xhaka as a captain after a month. It’s not even controversial and it’ll make the team better.

Second part of the equation here is this: Forget the ‘players ran to his side’ nonsense. They all know that Granit’s behaviour was unacceptable. If Emery lets this slide, he will be letting a squad that’s out of control know that he’s there to be rolled. He might as well put the gimp mask on and hand the dog chain to whoever is kinky enough to parade him around the training ground.

The notion that the manager is worried about a revolt is pathetic and actually aligns to the sexy ESPN man’s insights about how players of his past teams saw him as meek and easy to dominate. Emery should take control of the situation. These player report into one man and one man alone.

Also, imagine fearing the personalities in our squad? It’s a group of very nice, well-meaning guys. This is hardly Chelsea at its peak under Jose. Bar Kola and Luiz, those two could be dangerous.

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1,346 Responses to “Xhaka showing Emery who’s boss with lack of apology.”

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  1. Graham62

    HighburyLegend

    “Absolutely priceless”

    I know, it was brilliant.

    Made me have a loud slurp of my mid morning coffee.

  2. Nelson

    I am all for keeping Emery at least until Christmas. This season, Emery has created three big problems for himself.
    – Play Xhaka as lone DM behind two CMs
    – Openly freeze Ozil and spend too much energy on Ozil
    – Play out from the back when opponents were closing in

    As of yesterday, all three problems appear to be gone. The dressing room can be united again. Adding Martinelli and Tierney to the starting 11, I have confidence that the team can compete.

    I hope Emery can see that playing both strikers with a formation 4 4 2 is not the way to go. Moving Auba to the wing also makes the team weaker. The team is more balance playing with one striker. Against strong team play 4 3 3 and against weaker team, play 4 2 3 1. Let’s give it a try.

    No to Jose!

  3. Batistuta

    Surely you all can see that Bamford is trolling right? A poor attempt at it but still, trolling all the same…. I’m sure he makes half those comments chuckling away at his laptop

  4. Bamford10

    Those who like the idea of starting Martinelli wide left on Saturday, is the below the XI you would go with?

    Martnll_______Auba__________Pepe
    ______________Ozil
    _______Guend_____Ceballos
    Tier_____Luiz______Sokr_____Cham
    ______________Leno

  5. Valentin

    Paulinho,

    The problem with media, pundits and some fans is that they are suckered into the hype by a few good performances. It goes in overdrive and suddenly the great British hope is here.
    Remember when Rooney was tooted as better than Ronaldo.
    Rashford is a decent striker quick and with some good technique, but lacks the natural instinct of a goalscorer. Also like you say he is poor with his back to goal.

  6. Batistuta

    Yea the whole 5 or 4 points off nonsense doesn’t fly really because our performances all season have been atrocious….

    No one is saying Mourinho will lead us to a league title but it’s a suggestion and shouldn’t be beyond him to get us to be more properly organized especially defensively, doesn’t mean the individual errors would go away but we wouldn’t be facing more than 10 shots at our goal against every and any opponent, that’s just borderline atrocious….

    You don’t think Jose can do it fine? Let’s hear suggestions except you still think Emery can turn this sinking ship around then come out and say that and defend that…. Can’t always be jumping I’m front of every criticism in the name of being “objective”

  7. Batistuta

    Bamford

    There is no discernable statistic that shows us as being better under Emery, none whatsoever…. Facing lesser shots on target compared to the last game is not a stat at all especially when we’re still having to face more than 10 shots a game….

    Milan have been atrocious over here all season and are now on the 2nd manager this season and haven’t faced more than 10 shots in any game played so far…. That’s how bad the Arsenal defending has been…..

  8. Batistuta

    Arsenal still can’t defend
    Arsenal picked up a clean sheet at the weekend but Bernd Leno still needs more protection. Before the 1-0 win over Bournemouth on Sunday, Arsenal had conceded the most shots in the league. They still rank third in that regard (17 shots conceded per game), behind newly promoted Norwich City and Aston Villa. Leno has made more saves than any other keeper in the division (34), which is a testament to the German but another ringing indictment of the players in front of him.

    This from the Guardian a couple of weeks back

    Bamford, that’s how bad we are…. Only Villa and Norwich have faced more shots than us

  9. Dissenter

    Bamford ain’t trolling at all
    He’s the first of the truest Emery believers and he’s dedicated to turning Le-grove into an iteration of untold Arsenal for Emery.
    He’s a true believer. Give him credit for that.

  10. Batistuta

    Why can Sheffield and even horrible Southampton face lesser shots than Arsenal? Want to tell me we don’t have slightly better defenders than that lot?

  11. Bamford10

    Paulinho

    “He’s going through a decent spell now, but then so did Walcott at that age.”

    Complete nonsense. See his second goal last night, which was a fucking worldie, and see his goal against Liverpool, in which the run he made was world class. Walcott never scored goals of such class. Further, Rashford has about ten times the dribbling and skill that Walcott had.

    “He’s actually regressed as a player since I called him out as being extremely limited two or three years ago”

    More nonsense. Eventually, I think you’re going to have to admit that you got this one wrong. Cheers.

  12. Dissenter

    You don’t look at our game and say…at least we do x, y or z well.
    It’s globally turd quality.
    To all who parrot the individual errors line, not that it is the individual instinctive play of Auba etc that’s given us this semblance of being competitive.

  13. Batistuta

    Dissenter

    There’s only one explanation why anyone would go to bat for Emery at this stage….

    We all understood last season that he needed time and we defended him on here but no excuses for us to look even worse than we did last season.

  14. Batistuta

    Complete nonsense. See his second goal last night, which was a fucking worldie, and see his goal against Liverpool, in which the run he made was world class. Walcott never scored goals of such class. Further, Rashford has about ten times the dribbling and skill that Walcott had

    Such disrespect to Theo Walcott

  15. azed

    Emery’s biggest undoing is his inability to learn.

    Pep and Klopp learnt the importance of a good defence after their first season in the EPL why a Emery has refused to do that.

    Two more games for Emery then he is out.

  16. Bamford10

    Dissenter

    Why are you being such an unfunny, stupid c*nt? I am no such thing (an “Emery believer,”) and as I’ve said, I don’t even rate him all that highly. I simply think that many of the things said against him here are nonsense. That is all.

    No offense, but your insecurities lead you to say things here that are weak, lame and false. At the moment, you are playing to a certain crowd so as to try to ingratiate yourself with them. What you don’t realize is they were calling you a moron and a c*nt just a few days ago and they will be doing so again in just a couple of days. Your throwing them some red meat will do nothing to change this.

  17. Bamford10

    Bring back Marko, please. He can be a pain in the neck, and he has never been a friend to me, but he adds an important element here. He has his own ideas and is willing to go against the group. If he has been binned, I personally would like to see him reinstated.

  18. Receding Hairline

    “Yea the whole 5 or 4 points off nonsense doesn’t fly really because our performances all season have been atrocious….”

    It’s actually facts ..a quick glance at the table shows so

    If we were 10 or 12 points off fourth you will gleefully point it out

  19. Jim Lahey

    @Bamford –

    Not attacking you, but you can’t request people to make counterpoints then continuously refer to any counterpoint as “nonesense”.

  20. Bamford10

    Batistuta

    No offense, mate, but if you can’t see how much better of a footballer Marcus Rashford is than Theo Walcott, you either haven’t watched Rashford much or you don’t see the game very well. Cheese and chalk, chalk and cheese.

  21. China1

    No point highlighting this or that goal or performance as evidence of quality, it’s the long term trend that tells you something

    Scoring a worldie doesn’t prove rashford is good any more than a crappy performance doesn’t prove he isn’t

  22. Receding Hairline

    “Not attacking you, but you can’t request people to make counterpoints then continuously refer to any counterpoint as “nonesense”.”

    Well he can Jim if things like Emery believer are offered up as counter points.

  23. HighburyLegend

    “Scoring a worldie doesn’t prove rashford is good”

    Very true. After all, Giroud scored some worldies, him too.
    lol

  24. Champagne charlie

    Bati

    Hahaha add your name to the list that “doesn’t see the game very well”

    It’s literally been rehashed a half dozen times to anyone objecting his ridiculous assertions. The guy is a first grade idiot, pompous as it comes, and has no reasonable basis for his POV.

    You nailed it, he’s a troll.

  25. Jim Lahey

    Regarding Walcott, he was the ultimate stat padder, especially in his later years. He was great for putting the boots into a team when they were already down. I put together some stats on here a few years back that showed Walcott’s goals rarely resulted in points.

  26. Receding Hairline

    Saying pointing out tangible stuffs like we are so and so points off fourth, third and second is irrelevant is funny

    We can start putting up good performances tomorrow, a performance is based off a number of things, however if we have fallen too far behind our objectives it makes it harder for us.

    So no pointing out points difference between us and the supposed high flyers isn’t pointless.

  27. Graham62

    B10

    No disrespect my friend, but where do you dig up all this rubbish or, should I say, garbage?

    Why do you think Rashford hit a brick wall at MU?

    I’m intrigued.

  28. Victorious

    Binford give the blog a break you obnoxious twat!

    It’s painfully tedious having to scroll past your incessant load of balderdash every now and again

    Stick to the standard one or 2 liners of what normal trolls do.

  29. Champagne charlie

    Are we talking the same Rashford that has a goals to game ratio inferior to Bendtner in his time at Arsenal? Both more than 100 appearances..

    Do me a favour, Paulinho is spot on with Rashford. He scores some stunners but that doesn’t make a footballer, let alone a leading light of Man United.

  30. Batistuta

    Not even going to partake in this Walcott/ Rashford debate…. Theo for Arsenal had far more to his game than the Manc

  31. Bamford10

    Jim

    Well, actually, I can say that, especially if what they’ve said is in fact nonsense. Also, I generally don’t just say “nonsense” and leave it at that; I generally make an argument in support of my view as well. Further, to point out the obvious, the other person is free then to reply in turn with their own argument.

    I think Paulinho is wrong re Rashford. I asked him last night if he feels he might need to revise his view, and I have called some of what he said in reply this morning “nonsense”. However, I assume he knows that I respect his opinion, because I do. I just don’t agree with him on this point. People can disagree without being unpleasant or hostile. I realize that doesn’t happen a lot around here, but it is actually possible.

  32. Graham62

    RH

    What are you trying to say?

    The points differential between ourselves and Liverpool /MC, is totally irrelevant.

    They are long gone. It is only the likes of Chelski/Leicester/Spuds/MU etc who we should be concerned about. Even Wolves and West Ham come into the equation.

  33. Batistuta

    Recceding

    Except our league position doesn’t do justice to some of the football we’re playing…. Anyone who’s watched us has admitted we’re bad, not bad enough to be further down the table where our performances deserve but still bad…. Whether we’re 4/3/5/ points behind at this point might not really matter much in the long run as sooner rather than later, these performances will start showing the result it deserves

  34. Nelson

    Bamford10

    “on Saturday, is the below the XI you would go with?

    Martnll_______Auba__________Pepe
    ______________Ozil
    _______Guend_____Ceballos
    Tier_____Luiz______Sokr_____Cham
    ______________Leno”

    I would replace Ceballos by Torrier for the first 60 mins. Then replace Ozil with Ceballos.

  35. Champagne charlie

    Man City are fully capable, maybe even likely, to go on a 15-game winning run.

    Are we? No, no we’re not. A points comparison a quarter of the season in is always going to look more favourably on the lesser side because you cannot build much of a lead after so few games.

    All reason and logic goes out the window on here sometimes it’s maddening. Can play like absolute horse piss after half a dozen games and there will always be some knee slapper with the ‘we’re only 4 points off top spot….so we’re good’

  36. Receding Hairline

    “The points differential between ourselves and Liverpool /MC, is totally irrelevant.”

    How many points behind those two teams at the end of the season is actually pretty relevant

    “They are long gone. It is only the likes of Chelski/Leicester/Spuds/MU etc who we should be concerned about. Even Wolves and West Ham come into the equation.”

    The good old Wolves and West Ham burn ..doesn’t get old does it?

    “Except our league position doesn’t do justice to some of the football we’re playing”

    Nobody cares, Jose dragged United to second place playing some of the worst football ever seen, some of you want him to take over and save us. This is a results business.

    “Whether we’re 4/3/5/ points behind at this point might not really matter much in the long run as sooner rather than later, these performances will start showing the result it deserves”

    Might being the keyword ……doomsday predictions are very easy to make

  37. Batistuta

    Charlie

    I don’t get it to be honest, using our league position to justify anything considering how bad we’ve been would just be disingenuous….We have to be honest with ourselves and admit that….Even last season when we were on that unbeaten run and it was being criticised, i said at the time that it was okay because we seemed to defend doggedly (or attempt to) and play some good football but this season, it’s just been all over the place and saying anyone is moaning or doesn’t understand because we’re 4 points off is just funny because we’re probably going to be a further 6/8 behind after the next 2 games

  38. Pierre

    If you want a comparison , try this with 200 million spent.

    .Ten games played ,

    This season after ten games

    Position…5th
    4 points off 4th place
    12 points off top.

    Season 13/14 after ten games
    Position 1st
    5pts clear at top

    .Season 14/15 after ten games
    Position..4th joint
    9 pts off top

    15/16 after ten games
    Position..1st joint16/17 after ten games
    Position….1st joint

    17/18 after ten games.
    Position…4th joint
    9 pts off top

    Not looking good for Emery is it …I would predict that we could be as much as ten points of 4th and 20+ points off top by the end of December.

  39. Batistuta

    Wait, do you folks really think we should remain as we are because we are 4 points off 4th?

    Receeding

    Again, poor performances will always finally show it’s head with the results in the long run. It’s not a doomsday prediction if as history shows, it will happen.

    Ole relied on those fast counters when he first got the United job and a lot of folks predicted they’d get found out and they did…

    When Spain were dominating with tiki taka, it was predicted they couldn’t maintain that level because lots of teams were catching up and that happened and same with Barca with the pass pass pass, wasn’t sustainable and they hot sussed out and they had to adapt….

    United were not always “boring” under Mourinho, and he led them to 2nd with Jones, Smalling, Baily, Shaw and Young conceding less than eventual champions City….Their problem was that they didn’t score enough

  40. Receding Hairline

    “Again, poor performances will always finally show it’s head with the results in the long run. It’s not a doomsday prediction if as history shows, it will happen.”

    Again poor performances can improve. History has shown that as well.

    The rest of what you wrote aren’t remotely relevant

    Teams recover from poor starts without having to change coaches , shocker i know, but it happens.

  41. Batistuta

    Lolz how is me saying Mourinho got a worse set of defenders to keep more clean sheets irrelevant? So you’re saying you actually believe Emery will turn around our performances to get us us playing better with better results? Good on you mate….Noticed it’s all about defending the stays quo and shutting down any and every criticism of the manager… Fair enough if that’s your stance but weird because results and performances seem to point otherwise

  42. Batistuta

    How about we get a new manager who has a clue how to set up and organize a team better rather than live in “hope” that Emery will learn from the helter skelter tactics he’s employing and get us to perform better?

  43. Receding Hairline

    “So you’re saying you actually believe Emery will turn around our performances to get us us playing better with better results?”

    yea shocking i know but not unheard of

    “Lolz how is me saying Mourinho got a worse set of defenders to keep more clean sheets irrelevant?”

    Who determined the defenders available for United were a worse set?

    “.Noticed it’s all about defending the stays quo and shutting down any and every criticism of the manager”

    Nonsense

    “How about we get a new manager who has a clue how to set up and organize a team better rather than live in “hope” that Emery will learn from the helter skelter tactics he’s employing and get us to perform better?”

    What makes you think a new coach has a clue how to use the present squad? Because you have worked it all out in your mind? Torriera as last man, unleash Ozil behind Lacazette, Pepe and Auba and we are flying right?

  44. Pierre

    Watching the game last night , it made me realise why we struggle to see out a game .

    We run ourselves into the ground and by the hour mark are shot to pieces .

    The endless closing down and chasing all over the pitch with no real organisation is killing the players.

    We must learn to pace our game and try to take the sting out of a game if we are leading.

    The ability to frustrate an opponent is an effective weapon.

    Arsenal ,at the moment, always give the opposition hope as the helter skelter style of football and lack of discipline in our play will always concede chances.

    Emery is showing no inclination that he wants to improve this side of our game, in fact , we are more open defensively than last season.

  45. Distant legrover

    Batistuta

    I agree bro as I don’t see Emery turning this ship around. I just dont think he has it in him to make things happen. The bible said “by their fruit you will know them”.

    The fruits Emery has produced so far is just bitter and unattractive so yea, he is not the one. Our search continues…

  46. Bamford10

    Pierre

    “If you want a comparison, try this: with 200 million spent …”

    Right, “200 million spent,” yet the squad is no better than it was in 15-16; indeed, it’s worse, it’s weaker. Don’t take my word for it: see above, where Emery-critic and very-sober-commenter Emiratestroller says this very thing.

    You lot love to oversimplify things. You can’t just look at money spent. You have to look at the actual players coming in and what they have actually given us, and you also have to look at the outgoing players and what we have lost.

  47. bennydevito

    I think if we put aside the hysteria based on wanting Emery out, last night wasn’t that bad.

    Contrary to the many statements of Liverpool C team etc, they had 6 first team squad players playing including their captain and Origi who scored in the CL final.

    It was at Anfield and even had we won Emery still would have been criticised because it’s only the banter cup etc etc. It was lose lose for Emery last night.

    What we learned:

    Ozil needs to come back into the PL side regardless of any instructions from above. He’s made it clear he’s not going anywhere so we’re stuck paying his wages so we may as well play him. If he can perform regularly like that then it’s better for us, no argument.

    Bellerin and Holding are still a long way off the pace and are nowhere near match fit for the PL. Bellerin in particular seems to have lost his pace.

    Torreira needs to play as DM only.

    Ceballos still needs time to adabt and on the showing so far hasn’t got the same aggression, energy and B2B runs as Ramsey and lacks the technique of Ozil so I think we might need to consider sending him back to RM end of season and looking elsewhere. Maddison perhaps?

    Martinelli needs to be starting in the PL.

    Mustafi is still Mustafi.

    The midfield looks far more fluent with Ozil in the side and Xhaka out of it. Xhaka should be a bench and 2nd string player from hereon in.

  48. Batistuta

    What makes you think a new coach has a clue how to use the present squad? Because you have worked it all out in your mind? Torriera as last man, unleash Ozil behind Lacazette, Pepe and Auba and we are flying right?

    Except Receeding, no one is saying that is the formula but it’s obvious the man being paid the big buck doesn’t know how to set them up so how about we let someone else have a go at it( doesn’t have to be Mourinho) but can’t tell me there isn’t a manager put there who wouldn’t at least have us playing with a discernible pattern than we currently are

  49. Bamford10

    Pierre

    “We run ourselves into the ground and by the hour mark are shot to pieces .The endless closing down and chasing all over the pitch …”

    It is this very thing that produced two (if not three) of our first four goals. Indeed, we would never even have been in that match last night if it were not for the energy, intensity, pressing and harrying we now do without the ball.

  50. Batistuta

    Yea defend the manager at all cost even when he looks out of his depth, typical of those who kept defending Wenger during the latter years…

    Some of us defended Emery here last season, Pedro made sure to remind me of that the other day but knowing when to hold your hand up and say ” oh i got it wrong with this one” isn’t such a bad trait…

  51. Graham62

    Great goal from Willock but became very leggy in the second half.

    Martinelli is a gem, also like Saka.

    Holding still not up to pace.

    Tierney will be a major asset.

    What was wrong with Martinez?

    Torreira had reasonable game.

    Ozil showed what he can do, even though not top notch opposition.

    Ceballos still too tense. Needs to relax.

    Fudge! How’s that possible under Mr Emery.

  52. Receding Hairline

    “Some of us defended Emery here last season, Pedro made sure to remind me of that the other day but knowing when to hold your hand up and say ” oh i got it wrong with this one” isn’t such a bad trait…”

    Oh i got it wrong means fcuk all really in this case with all due respect

    Like i have pointed out many times, the coach isn’t hired or fired based on opinions stated on this blog or any other blog for that matter.

    The issue here is i do not buy certain reasons some of you put forward for our dysfunctional play.

    I have seen many match days were the squad is announced and most of you go “can’ fault the selection” and we still end up playing like crap

  53. Paulinho

    Bamford – That free kick Rashford scored last night was the first one he has scored, probably on his 1000th attempt. It’s probably the one type of free kick he can score because his whole technique is geared around having the distance to put work onto the ball. Look at his goal at Bulgaria. He needs to shoot at long distances or bizarre acute angles to beat the goalie with dip and pace. I don’t see that as sustainable long-term. Indeed he went 16 games without a goal in open play recently precisely because he can’t do the bread and butter, to coin a phrase from Ole Gunnar.

    He gets a ridiculous amount of penalties which pad his already mediocre stats so I’m not buying it. His run against Liverpool is getting completely overblown anyway, it’s pretty basic movement running onto the ball, he didn’t have to think about anything bar moving back and forth. It’s when he has to multi-task in general play we see the lack of ability.

    If Rashford makes that position his own, and brings in Sane goal numbers (in open play) then I will re-evaluate but until then it’s the typical peaks and troughs of a mid-level player (a player who made some great runs and finishes in and amongst all the gormless play). He is still all icing and no sponge.

  54. Distant legrover

    S Asoa

    Been thinking that for a while also. Helter skelter football is Emery’s style of play. So i guess for those still expecting some cool,special style to emerge, this is as good as it gets.

    Think Emery misunderstood Klopp when the latter said he liked heavy metal. football.

  55. S Asoa

    Quoting Valentin
    “ Such poor organisation can only come from the manager. Most of the goals we keep conceding are not individual errors, but systemic failure. Players not being properly coached or coached with incoherent instructions. “
    The Elephant in the Room a few verbose refuse to see

  56. HighburyLegend

    “Xhaka showing Emery who’s boss with lack of apology.”

    Pedro showing Le Grovers who’s boss with lack of new post today so far.

  57. HighburyLegend

    Not fast enough unfortunately….
    And I was one of his most fervent defenders last season.

    But enough is enough.

  58. China1

    Receding but why are we playing like crap?

    Who is setting the team to play like crap? Who has us playing out from the back very poorly over and over again with absolutely no discernible benefit to the team and a lot of risk? Who tells the players to play endless slow passes around between the CBS and FBs giving the opposition loads of time to organize? Who sets up with huge gaps between the midfield and attack making transitions both really difficult and usually really slow?

    I refuse to believe it’s impossible for arsenal to be getting more out of this squad.

    Even with the right selection the setup and tactics usually suck and the players barely seem to even understand what’s expected of them as evidenced by saka saying he listens to Freddie instead

    Arsenal playing badly when emery gets the selection right doesn’t show emery is not the problem – it actually confirms it

  59. HighburyLegend

    “I refuse to believe it’s impossible for arsenal to be getting more out of this squad. ”

    Totally agree with this.
    Let’s pray that Edu and Raul are thinking the same…

  60. Distant legrover

    Reports this morning that Ngolo Kante wants to quits Chelsea. Since 2015 he’s won 2 PL titles, 1 World cup, 1 Fa cup, 1 Europa league, playing a huge role in this accomplishments.

    We should be all over that. But we wont since we dont do deals that makes sense.

  61. Receding Hairline

    Javia Gracia did so well last season he was getting accolades, even led Watford to their first cup final in 35 years. Watford owners decided they have finally found one for the long term, four and a half year deal followed, then investment in players.

    Watfrod were a point off bottom when he was sacked, the belief was that Flores surely couldn’t do any worse that Gracia was doing…Watford are currently bottom.

    Sometimes a change of coach doesn’t really change much.

    Unai Emery was one win away last season from being christened an overwhelming success, he would have finished third above Pochettino and Sarri (all considered vastly superior coaches ) , he was two wins away from getting both that and a first European title. He masterminded some tactically perfect matches against Chelsea, United and Spurs at home. A good win without conceding against Napoli and a very comprehensive victory against Valencia in the Europa.

    Now we are led to believe he is a bum who cannot set up a team to win a football match and that immediate dismissal is the only course of action left. And you expect me to take that seriously.

  62. Bob N16

    The argument last season for most of us was that Emery deserved time with an inherited squad that was lacking.

    With a ‘good’ TW, we were hopeful that this season would see real improvement and Emery could be judged by Nov/ Dec.

    It’s Nov tomorrow. He hasn’t impressed. Do Edu and Sanhelli push the button now? Who’ s available? Is it realistic for Freddie to be caretaker?
    No to Mourinho from me.

    Atmosphere this Saturday will be interesting. Think Emery will finally go with Torreira as DM. Players could still save him but he needs to get selection right.

  63. Cesc Appeal

    Bob N16

    You say that but last night Willock was usually the deepest midfield player and Torreira was playing a box to box high presser type role.

    I think he will go with Guendouzi deepest if Xhaka isn’t playing.

    I have not liked what I’ve seen from ALP but he will go with that again as well. I’d prefer Martinelli to get a start.

  64. salparadisenyc

    That sub went so against state of play had to be pre planned, tells you how much that competition means to Emery and club.

  65. Words on a Blog

    Someone earlier called Walcott the “ultimate stat-padder” – only good for finishing off teams when they were down.

    Probably true, but how I wish we had a stat-padding-finisher-Ofer now, you know when we are two goals up against Watford, Palace or Liverpool…..

    Come back Theo, all is forgiven!

  66. Dissenter

    It seems referees everywhere are not endearing themselves to many
    The colorful Napoli president, said “buffoonery from the referee” led to coach Carlo Ancelotti and his assistant being sent off in the 2-2 Serie A draw with Atalanta.

    In a fiery end to the game, Josip Ilicic’s 86th-minute equaliser stood after a long VAR review, as Napoli appealed for a penalty.
    Ancelotti and his assistant were then shown red cards for protesting.

    “Without us, the referees would be peeling potatoes,” De Laurentiis said.

    “If there is VAR it’s pointless creating eight minutes of additional time because all that happens is pushing and shouting,” he told Sky Sport Italia.
    “And what is this buffoonery from the referee [Pino Giacomelli] who kicks out a gentleman like Ancelotti? We’re fed up. We’re tired of paying for this standard of officiating.”

  67. Gentlebris

    ‘Unai Emery was one win away last season from being christened an overwhelming success, he would have finished third above Pochettino and Sarri (all considered vastly superior coaches ) , he was two wins away from getting both that and a first European title. He masterminded some tactically perfect matches against Chelsea, United and Spurs at home. A good win without conceding against Napoli and a very comprehensive victory against Valencia in the Europa.’

    The whole idea of employing Emery was to take this team forward after Wenger’s shortcoming last years in charge, but even Wenger’s last years in charge are far better than the Emery success you were trying to depict above.

    Wenger actually beat Chelsea in a final to win an FA cup in one of his worst years for example, Emery played his own final against Chelsea and didn’t just lose but lost embarrassingly.

    You were trying to paint failure as a semi-success, RH, and that’s so pathetic.

    Emery almost made top 3 above Sarri and Poch? But the fact remains he didn’t make top 3 above Sarri and Poch, he didn’t even make top 4. And after already losing a CL place to Sarri and co, he met Sarri at the EL final and lost woefully to him.
    How does that look like success to you?

  68. RodneyKing

    I’m not really a fan of Lacazette down the middle and Aubameyang out on the right. If those two are ever going to be on the pitch together, then I’d rather have Lacazette playing slightly behind Aubameyang, with Saka/Martinelli and Pepe on either side of them.

    On the other hand, I like Martinelli’s movement. It may be too early to say but I think with Pepe, Martinelli and one of either Laca and Auba, we’d see a better interchange of passes and running off the ball than with Pepe, Laca and Auba.

  69. Batistuta

    Yea site one example of a club that doesn’t get instant success after firing a manager when there are numerous examples of teams who are successful after doing same…

  70. RodneyKing

    As Wenger and Arsenal began to decline, demands for a new manger were met with: “Who’s out there that can take over from him?”. But now everyone seems to have an opinion.

    Let’s all pretend that the terms “Groundhog Day” and “Elite Purgatory” were never used regularly to describe the team’s dreary performances and managerial situation. At the time, a number of posters here pointed out that Wenger was driving the club into a dark tunnel that will take years for it to get out of. How right they were.

    As fans, we want our team to do well, much sooner than later. But let’s not forget how we got here in the first place. True, Wenger took the club to enviable heights but for many years, even after the stadium move and the club’s financial situation improved, he failed to invest properly while selling off his best players to our immediate rivals.

    Everyone else got better while we got worse.

    In comparison to Leicester, most pundits I’ve heard talking about their progress under Brendan Rogers, say he inherited a great squad of players. However, when it comes to Emery, many agree that he inherited an unbalanced squad – great going forward but soft in the middle and terrible at defending.

    Nothing will change until the club shows willingness to address the glaring issues in the current squad and, going forward, gets into the habit of acquiring (and grooming) the right calibre of players. And then we can have a conversation about this or that manager.

  71. þorkell einarsson

    i am hoping xhaka is replaced by someone in jan.
    muatafi used as backup in the squad until replaced by Saliba ?
    özil given time to flourish, him and AMN linked up well yesterday !!
    ceballos replaced by Moutinhio Wolwes .. and Eddie NKH is given
    a run in the first team asap.. ? auba is tiring with each year ..

  72. TheBayingMob

    “ Emery’s biggest undoing is his inability to learn.”

    Emery’s biggest undoing, by far, is that he is a shit football manager.

  73. China1

    What is the weird obsession with putting our most defensively capable midfielder in a b2b or am position? I just don’t know what the grand idea is

    If guen was a defensive beast or something you might go okay well he has cover he can afford to experiment but guen is only okay defensively and is clearly still learning his trade. He clearly needs good help alongside him.

    It should be guen playing alongside a defensive rock so that he can hone his trade calmly rather than the sink or swim setup he finds himself dumped in where we ask him to become awesome defensively overnight because he’s either with lamppost xhaka or torreira is in the other teams box

    I just don’t understand

  74. PhD2020

    Champagne charlieOctober 31, 2019 11:20:32
    Bati

    Hahaha add your name to the list that “doesn’t see the game very well”It’s literally been rehashed a half dozen times to anyone objecting his ridiculous assertions. The guy is a first grade idiot, pompous as it comes, and has no reasonable basis for his POV.You nailed it, he’s a troll.

    —–
    Not pompous at all..Not a troll..

    Just a wannabe Harvard reject..Or a Harvard dropout-kicked out because of what is witnessed, day in,day out..

    No sane parent, would subject their kid to this total nonsense on a daily basis..

    Fornicating impossible…

  75. Cesc Appeal

    LT

    I much prefer Auba to Lacazette in all honesty.

    I get people say Lacazette has better work rate and is maybe more well rounded, but Auba is unquestionably the better ST in terms of goals and carrying a threat.

    Since his return I haven’t been impressed with Lacazette either. Looks off the pace and lazy.

    Under Emery I thought we were at our best when we played one and brought one off the bench.

  76. RodneyKing

    Before the game last night, I watched Wright interviewing Bergkamp about his time at Arsenal. For around the tenth time, mind. For someone who went about his business on the pitch rather seriously, he’s got a great sense of humour.

    He wants to come back to Arsenal in some capacity but not as head coach. Classy player. I’ve seen that goal against Newcastle lots of times but I never get tired of seeing it.

    The gulf in quality between Wenger’s early teams and our recent teams is so wide it’s almost diabolical. Hard to believe Arsenal won games with just twenty minutes gone.

  77. Un na naai

    One thing is abundantly clear
    Emery and whoever replaces him in the summer has to let this attacking talent loose.
    5 goals at anfield. AMN, Özil, Martinelli, Willock and Saka were unplayable going forward
    You put ALP in amongst that let and let them loose you are going to blow any team out of the park
    Why is he so scared to go forward with such an arsenal?

  78. Un na naai

    Since his return I haven’t been impressed with Lacazette either. Looks off the pace and lazy.

    CA

    You aren’t half taking some amount of nonsense these days
    What the hell has happened to you?

  79. Un na naai

    Bamford

    Any more on how our wonderfully improved defensive frame work came together last night?

    😂
    You fucking clown

  80. Pierre

    The return of Bellerin and holding along with tierney was supposed to herald a new beginning .

    Doesn’t look that way does it .Llll

    Is it the players or is it the lack of protection that Emery fails to provide for our defenders.

    Well, last night he played willock and Torreira in centre mid and it looked for all the world that Torreira was asked to play as a box to box midfielder.

    Did it work, well one could say that Torreira scored and to be honest I thought he had a decent game, though from where I was sitting most of his best work was in the centre of the pitch putting out fires.

    I believe it is very difficult for one player to cover the whole of the central area of the pitch and for some periods of the game, that is what was being asked of willock.

    I know it seems obvious ,but for Arsenal to improve defensively our defence needs more protection .
    Our manager even took off Torreira in the latter stages of last night’s game and put Ceballos on, which afforded our defence even less protection .

    Its difficult to fathom Emery’s thinking sometimes , there appears to be no logic in his decision making .

    Of course ,its not the end of the world being eliminated from the league cup , but from a confidence perspective ,a nice win at Anfield would have done the team the world of good.

    Taking that into account , one would have thought he could have maybe brought on another centre back and taken off Saka and gone with wing backs instead of taking Torreira off and bringing Ceballos on.

    Bringing on that extra centre back would have given us more cover in the box and also allowed protection in front of them with AMN , Guendouzi and Torreira to see out the game.

    With tierney on and Bellerin on the right it would still have allowed us to be offensive with willock giving support to Martinelli.

    It makes no sense to finish with a very tiring Saka on the pitch who would be of no use defensively or offensively and Ceballos who will try his best to help but is not really defensive minded.

    Last night was a chance to rebuild the confidence in the squad but in the end it raised more questions than answers.

  81. Un na naai

    As I’ve said all along

    Ceballos is not going to make it at arsenal
    Willock is the superior option
    Saka, AMN, tierney and Guendouzi should be getting on to the pitch as often as possible
    Ozil NEEDS to be starting league games now. Emery the goon takes him off and we lose the game

    Martinelli is going to be a giant for us. He’s got it all. In the air, height, workrate, pace skill, technique, vision and instinct. The kid is a monster. Whoever scouted this lad deserves a blowy from Megan Fox

    Torreira has to be our DM.

  82. Valentin

    “Hard to believe Arsenal won games with just twenty minutes gone.”

    Those teams were ruthless. When they had a team in a vice grip, they did not let go.
    That starts from the top. Perez interview on how Rodgers told them at half time that he did not want them to relax whilst they were already 5-0 up against Southampton.

    Arsenal at 2-0, we are afraid and can’t decide if we should press ahead or try to defend a lead. In the end we do neither. A team in the image of the manager. Afraid, badly organised, indecisive and reactive rather than proactive.

  83. Freddie Ljungberg

    Pierre

    We have a league match on Sunday that is far more important than the carabooboo cup, with Xhaka unlikely to play (hopefully) and us being short of midfielders it would have made no sense at all playing Torreira for 90 minutes.

    People were even complaining about Ozil getting a start because he wasn’t matchfit, presumably because it was away at Anfield and they expected him to suck, but when he didn’t against their kids the same people were then furious he got subbed.

    Same with the Tierney sub, makes perfect sense if you realise that the carabooboo is meaningless.

  84. Pierre

    Un
    “CAYou aren’t half taking some amount of nonsense these days
    What the hell has happened to you?”

    It all boils down to his hatred of Ozil and refusal to give him credit , so he kept repeating how weak the opposition were last night.

  85. Pierre

    Fred
    “We have a league match on Sunday that is far more important than the carabooboo cup, with Xhaka unlikely to play (hopefully) and us being short of midfielders it would have made no sense at all playing Torreira for 90 minutes.”

    Playing Torreira as a box to box midfielder would have taken way more out of him than asking him to sit in midfield and protect the defence for 90 minutes

  86. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    “Ceballos is not going to make it at arsenal
    Willock is the superior option

    Saka, AMN, tierney and Guendouzi should be getting on to the pitch as often as possible
    Ozil NEEDS to be starting league games now. Emery the goon takes him off and we lose the game”

    You could be right about Ceballos, he’s struggling to adapt at the moment and at this time I wouldn’t want the club to make it permanent.
    Willock still has some way to go before he should be starting regularly in the PL for us, especially in an otherwise inexperienced midfield, good potential though and should be getting plenty of playing time.

    Saka and Martinelli should share tht Left wing position, Nelson understudy to Pepe and We have to start rotating Auba and Laca, they should only be on the pitch at the same time if we’re chasing a game with 30 minutes left.

    AMN should be at home or in the stands, he’s not good enough.

    Ozil could go back to playing some easy games at home, it’s all he’s good for nowadays but would rather see a youngster get those minutes and if we can push Ozil out with his 350k millstone by not playing him we absolutely should.

  87. Pierre

    Fred
    “Same with the Tierney sub, makes perfect sense if you realise that the carabooboo is meaningless.”

    Not meaningless in the sense of being a confidence builder

    Instead it feels like a defeat and put that alongside the Sheffield United and palace results and that is 3 poor results.

  88. Freddie Ljungberg

    “Playing Torreira as a box to box midfielder would have taken way more out of him than asking him to sit in midfield and protect the defence for 90 minutes”

    I’m not saying that’s the right position for him or that he should play there, I’m saying playing him for 90 minutes is going to take more out of him than playing him 60 minutes, I don’t pick where he plays.

  89. Pierre

    Fred
    ” but would rather see a youngster get those minutes and if we can push Ozil out with his 350k millstone by not playing him we absolutely should”

    Some people never learn do they.

  90. Freddie Ljungberg

    Pierre

    So you would rather play our first choice, returning from injury, adapting to the league right back for 90 minutes and have him miss the Wolves game? Clever.

    We’re stretched thin as it is already quality wise in some positions, probably a bleseing that we got knocked out early.

    Klopp doesn’t seem too thrilled about advancing and he has a far better squad. Our kids can get a kickabout in the EL and some FA cup games instead, a lot of them will also get played in the PL so no big deal.

  91. Freddie Ljungberg

    Pierre

    I know you’re hoping that Ozils mom is going to be our next manager so your idol will get more playing time but that’s not going to happen, he’s just not cut out for the league anymore, if all he wants to do is sit on his arse collecting his undeserved paycheck that’s up to him but don’t pretend that he’s somehow the victim in all this.

  92. China1

    A key difference between then and now was that in the old days we didn’t just have much better players but we utilized them really well

    Take for example between auba Pepe laca and ozil we should have enough talent that we should be creating havoc, even more so with overlapping FBs but we just don’t

    If you think back to the old front line. Henry was unplayable so had to be double marked but he would drift around so much that marking him was a huge pain, and if you did double mark him you’d have just vacated more space for Freddie Dennis and pires to exploit. Alongside their talent, a key weapon was to just let the best couple of players draw in the opposition so the others could exploit it.

    All top teams do this. Want to stop Messi? It’s horribly difficult but it can be done, but rarely without letting Suarez get a bit of respite which is suicide. You can’t double mark everyone

    With this squad, and if ozil could be bothered to play, it should be that ozil and Pepe are dragging the opposition around so that auba and laca are getting extra spaces to exploit

  93. Pierre

    Fred
    “but don’t pretend that he’s somehow the victim in all this”

    It’s the fans that are the victims …they made their point last night that’s for sure.

  94. Pierre

    Fred
    “So you would rather play our first choice, returning from injury, adapting to the league right back for 90 minutes and have him miss the Wolves game? Clever.”

    Eh..you lost me there

  95. Un na naai

    Freddie

    I am right about Ceballos. Honestly, I do t know why we gave away Wilshere and Santi only to bring in Suarez and Ceballos on loan. It smacks of someone without a plan. Rank mismanagement.

    AMN was good last night Freddie. I’m sorry but I think you lot have lynched the boy unfairly and fail to recognise his positive contributions in an effort to double down on your dismissive attitude towards him.
    He may never be a regular arsenal starter but every club needs players like AMN and for me he’s better than iwobi. Works harder, better end product, nice crosser, near with the ball.
    And yes sometimes looks like he’s stoned and lapses in concentration.
    He’s 22. If he doesn’t make it here there will be plenty of good premier league clubs knocking on the door for him.
    We could quite easily get £20m upwards for him in today’s market.

    I’d rather keep him though. He’s an arsenal boy and he’s got his uses

  96. DigitalBob

    Ceballos’s is a decent squad player but the amount Madrid will ask for feels like its a non starter. He’s very much a flat track bully and will always struggle to perform against the better teams.

    LT playing box to box gets us a 5-5 match, Emery is a strange man sometimes!

    Mesut was great but like alot of the 11 that started the match he was visibly tired by the our mark.

    AMN could have been better but he’s got enough to not be classed as shit, thats way too far. He needs to maintain focus during a match so the dumb mistakes are not a regular occurrence.

  97. Un na naai

    A quote from the Liverpool right back, Williams last night

    I thought we gave them a few sloppy goals which we could work on in training, but overall I thought the team dug in. We stuck as a team and we got the win.

    So!! Well well well!! They work on defence in training?? Who fucking knew eh? While on le grove we’ve got halfwits trying to claim coaching is fanciful.

    Some of the biggest horse shit I’ve ever heard

  98. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    We’ll have to wait and see about Ceballos, it’s still too early to tell but I would prefer someone like Dominick that has the physicality/ work rate as well as the skill and cracking long distance shot as our CAM.

    I know you love Wilshere and all but he’s finished as a top level footballer and it looked like Santi was as well, good for him that he’s foing well in la liga but I don’t think he would have been as good here after his injury.

    We’re not going to be playing Liverpools b-team every day, AMN is rank defensively and in the wing positions he has too many better talents ahead of him, he would be a disaster as CM so I don’t think there’s a place for him in the squad in a year or 2 when we’re done with the major surgery. I’m happy to see him prove me wrong though.

  99. Un na naai

    Digital
    Could disagree with any of that. Except Ceballos. I wouldn’t even want him as a squad player when we have lads like Joe Willock. Scores goals, makes tackles, driving runs, hard working. Made for the prem that lad.

    I honestly think Ceballos offers little more than Elneny.

  100. Un na naai

    Freddie

    Both jack and Santi would have been superior options from the bench
    You telling me Santi or jack couldn’t do 20-45 mins spurts for arsenal?

  101. DigitalBob

    Un – Elneny!, a bit harsh for me as I felt Elneny was a less accurate Denilson. Ceballos has quality just not top tier quality, but against 70% of our opposition he’s a good enough squad player.

    I have a fear of youngsters getting burned out so Willock at most shouldn’t be playing more games than he has to over the next few years.

    If Ceballos costs us anything up to £28 million to £30 million I think he’s worth it. But anything more and its bad business. Happy to see the guy prove me wrong.

    I miss Santi so much and 20 minute cameos from the bench would do this team wonders, but Jack’s just not got the body for top tier footie.

  102. PhD2020

    He’s a true believer. Give him credit for that.
    ——
    Fornicate off dude..Your ass linking knows no bounds….

    Really cringeworthy…Fornicating lizard….