Emery takes the captaincy issue… to the players?! Oh my.

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Nonsense never sleeps at Arsenal. The Telegraph is reporting that Unai Emery, a man suffering third-degree burns from his last democratic election (Xhaka for captain), is once again canvassing the squad for their opinions on whether to sack Xhaka as captain (#XhakaOut).

You couldn’t make it up.

Firstly, the players voted him in. They are not good decision-makers. If this were Manchester City, I’d understand, but Arsenal? Please. They’re not voting for what’s good for them. Secondly, does Unai have an advisor? An agent? A friend? Someone intervene and explain to this man what leadership is.

You don’t ask the team who should get fired. You don’t vote for promotions. This habit of sharing poor decision making is incredibly beta male and I have no idea why no one at the club has thought to intervene. Emery was doing it last season without oversight (motivational speeches from the fucking travel booker), and he’s at it again this season. Where is Edu in all of this?

It’s not a surprise either, all this information was out there when we hired him. This is the manager on power at big clubs shortly before he joined us.

‘I am of the opinion that PSG’s leader is Neymar. Or that he is currently becoming it. Neymar came to PSG to be the leader, to go through this process to someday become the best in the world. At Manchester City, Pep is in charge. At PSG, Neymar has to be.’

Distilled: The manager at Manchester City is the manager. The manager at PSG, where I was, is Neymar.

Quite an incredible statement to make public, but again, not surprising if you’ve paid attention to his behaviour over the past 15 months.

My prediction? I think something else Emery said in the same interview could be pertinent.

I think that I managed the dressing room quite well. My greatest satisfaction was that the team didn’t sink, after losing against Barcelona or Real Madrid. A few weeks ago for example, we had a horrible first half against Saint-Étienne, but after the break, with one player sent off, we reacted well and managed to equalise. One of my staff members told me, “Unai, today the players showed that they are with you. If that weren’t the case, we would have lost.”

And he was right. If the team wanted to end me, that would have been the moment to do so. But the team was able to react. That was my main satisfaction, even if this will remain something personal which won’t matter for much from an external point of view. Of course, I don’t control everything. Both round of 16 eliminations showed that. It is difficult to control the necessary elements with a big team, and I still need to improve in that respect.

Emery has very little control over the dressing room at Arsenal. His captain hasn’t apologised a day after his disgraceful actions. Lacazette is out here liking #EmeryOut posts on Instagram, then retracting when people paid attention. Players are leaking to the press that the dressing room is split. Ozil is running amock with his peaceful protests now the manager and Edu doubled down on making him a martyr. We have Liverpool, Wolves and Leicester next in the league

Blood is in the water. I am very much doubtful Emery has the resources to rescue this. I think the players might give up on him… then we’re in a whole world of trouble because according to Ornstein, Edu doesn’t have a contingency plan.

Not good enough. Our strategy, Champions League qualification, is an objective. That is no way to build a football club. It’s likely why we stuck with a bad manager. On paper, he has what we need in the short term. But paycheque to paycheque seasons is no way to build a winning machine and we’re seeing the fruits of that for the second season running. The big worry, as I said yesterday, is that a club with no plan will always opt for Jose Mourinho. A toxic has been with a jerrycan and a box of matches.

Beware the obvious choice…

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salpardisenyc

Agree with Graham whatever happens tomorrow happens the league cup is not a priority.

Wolves this weekend is absolutely vital to this manager.

Has the feel of a match if won it returns more to a business as usual phase with everyone understanding Emery’s limitations but he overcame the initial hump this season. If lost the knives will be out, sharpened and readied with large swathe of supporters calling for the sack. That happens Leicester away becomes massive moment for this season and his future.

Valentin

Dissenter, The head hunting process is a three steps process. Step 1: you assemble a collection of potential candidates. Usually you have somebody on a retainer to draw a list and maintain that list for your board. The candidates are not necessarily even aware that information is gathered on them. Nobody is invited for tea. Your take on the situation is that Raul and Edu are afraid of making things worse by acting now. My take is that by doing nothing they are making the situation worse. Without sacking Emery now, they could help resolve the situation by just taking… Read more »

Valentin

Chris,

I agree in that I don’t think that Gazidis had any plan B. He just saw the situation getting worse and decided to act. I am pretty sure that he had no candidate in mind when he sacked Wenger.
That in itself is just proof that oiled snake man had no qualification to be in charge of a football club.
His plan: let’s sack Wenger now and we’ll find a replacement later.

Un na naai

Ishola

Why so worried? Downplaying a certain loss before it’s even happened!! Anyone would swear you had an agenda.

Gentlebris

‘His brain thinks in Spanish. He has to try and communicate in a foreign tounge. he doesn’t really comprehend what he actually says and then we all wonder why everything is so fudged up.’

Graham, Pep came from Spain too and Jose from far away Setubal, they are both highly intelligent operators. I think if Emery had been thinking in Pep’s Spanish, we would have excellent football in our hands right now. But the reality is Emery thinks in gibberish!

Ishola70

Un na naai
“Why so worried? Downplaying a certain loss before it’s even happened!! Anyone would swear you had an agenda.”

The whole point is not to be over worried about that match.

If you had read the post properly it said no need to go over the top if Arsenal win as well.

It’s a reseve fixture.

Dissenter

Wenger was Gazidis plan A…Z
He built whatever reputation he had off Wenger’s back. Imagine coming to a club with a manager with a record that Wenger had accrued in the first half of his tenure?
All Gazidis had to do was embrace the Klieg light and pretend to be competent. It was only when Wenger completely fell of the cliff that Gazidis’ hand was forced. His so called record was all Wenger’s work, as flawed as Wenger was.

Gentlebris

*on our hands

Nelson

For me, Emery and his coaching staff should focus on the first team performance. For example, exercise playout from the back, practice advancing the ball through overlapping of wingers and FBs, etc. Just forget about Ozil and Xhaka. They are both distraction. Let them play in those cup games. They are experienced and can teach the youngsters how to deal with various situations. After each EPL game, put up a sign “No question on Xhaka and Ozil” . End of story.

Un na naai

TeeOctober 29, 2019 16:40:12
RecidingYou don’t sound like a guy who can kick a crown cock let alone ever play competitive football.

Tee. How apt. You’ve got Hairline down to a Tee.

Chubby half bald armchair fan.

Valentin

Dissenter,

A while ago I mentioned that Emery was not helping himself by having no coherent communication strategy.
Putting out there that Özil may captain the Arsenal side against Liverpool is just incoherent. After leaking for weeks how bad he was and that Arsenal was desperately trying to offload him and that he had no future here. Anybody hearing that news will feel that it reeks of desperation.
Arsenal should have somebody in charge of communication and crisis management having a talk with Raul, Edu and Emery. That make the club look petty, amateurish and clueless.

Dissenter

BBC; “Arsenal manager Unai Emery says Granit Xhaka should apologise after he was involved in an angry confrontation with home fans during Sunday’s 2-2 draw with Crystal Palace”

“Emery said: “Yes [he should apologise]. We make mistakes, we need to apologise and we suggested for him to do that…”Really, he knows he was wrong and he feels inside very deep.”

Ishola70

These Wengerites trying to sniff out phantom Emery fans.

It’s hysterical.

They so want to reverse the situation where their hero was being hounded previously that they desperately seek out Emery fans that barely exist.

Un na naai

Ishola70October 29, 2019 18:58:58
Un na naai
“Why so worried? Downplaying a certain loss before it’s even happened!! Anyone would swear you had an agenda.”The whole point is not to be over worried about that match.If you had read the post properly it said no need to go over the top if Arsenal win as well. It’s a reseve fixture.

Ishola

Oh really? So Another humiliating Emery capitulation won’t matter at all then will it?
Setting your stall out nice and early for this one. You know what’s coming clearly. Actions speak louder than words.

salpardisenyc

Setúbal and Comporta hardly backwaters, likely trendiest euro destination for the elite at the moment, bet Jose has a nice chunk of property accruing massive appreciation.

Un na naai

Really, he knows he was wrong and he feels inside very deep.”

Strange way to punish your captain!!

Un na naai

Champagne charlieOctober 29, 2019 14:01:21
“That Torriera cried when Xhaka got booed shows that we need to be careful with out recruitment.“Wtf does this even mean? I don’t rate Torreira as this apparent DM saviour we’ve been missing, but taking shots at his character for showing emotion? Dickhead.Real men don’t cry or something? Proper hard you must be.

Charlie

Oh dissenter cries alright. Just don’t mention cop violence and BLM in the same sentence or you’re gonna need a dingy.

Graham62

Gentlebris

You get the gist of things though.

His communication/man management skills are all over the place.

As you say, a right load of “gibberish”.

Ishola70

Don

Liverpool reserves will be favourites for the match no doubt.

But it’s a reserve match. It doesn’t have the intensity of an EPL match. In those circumstances sometimes surprises can occur but as said there is no need to go overboard if Arsenal reserves cause a surprise.

Dissenter

Me thinks Arsenal needs to recall Eddie Nketiah from his loan at Leeds.
There are other clubs that will be willing to have him and play him more frequently.

Un na naai

Raptora You’re ripping it up lately. A flurry of fantastically passionate posts, many of which I totally agree with Emery has been throwing xakha under the bus. Not by playing him but by playing him ina role which totally exposes his and the team’s flaws. You put him alongside Torreira with Torreira guarding him and xakha free to move the ball quickly up field and it’s a different midfield Exactly like it was for our 23 game run. Not perfect but the most superior thing we’ve seen in the last 2 seasons. He then abandoned this around Xmas and fucked… Read more »

Un na naai

Ishola70October 29, 2019 19:06:53
DonLiverpool reserves will be favourites for the match no doubt.But it’s a reserve match. It doesn’t have the intensity of an EPL match. In those circumstances sometimes surprises can occur but as said there is no need to go overboard if Arsenal reserves cause a surprise.

Ishola
Bla bla bla bla
Any 11 picked by Liverpool will beat our 11

You could swap it over and give them ours and we take theirs and they still win.
Why? Because they have klopp and we have emery.

Ishola70

Yes Don as was said they are favourites.

But as others and myself have said there is no great significance in the match. Not when so many first teamers will be missing from each side.

The serious stuff resumes again against Wolves.

Valentin

It won’t be Liverpool reserve. I think that it will be a mix of youth team players and fringe players with 1 or two usual starter on the bench.
Carabao Cup is way down Liverpool’s priority, but they would want to keep the feel good factor continue.
Also it would the opportunity to test their fringe players like Origi in a proper setting to keep them sharp and focus for the rest of the season.

Un na naai

I actually really fell sorry for xakha
He’s a victim here
Hung out to dry by emery and his utter ineptitude. He should never have been made captain. Never

Holding and Lacazette
That’s it.

Un na naai

Ishola

There will be if emery takes another battering in what is likely to be the biggest point of respite for him as the league fixtures are relentlessly exposing him.

Tick Tock as me old mate CG used to say

Ishola70

Valentin “It won’t be Liverpool reserve. I think that it will be a mix of youth team players and fringe players with 1 or two usual starter on the bench.” Are you feeling alright Valentin? What you just describe is just what reserve means. Sure they may have some first team players on the bench and sure they will want to win and they are favourites but it is a very much a reserve fixture for them. Let’s be real here. They are European champions and are again looking to win the EPL so a Carabooo isn’t on the wish… Read more »

Valentin

Dissenter,

Bielsa is starting to introduce Nkethia earlier, so maybe there is a plan to slowly integrate him to the starting 11.
I agree that if things do not improve he will need a change of scenery. We should ask Leeds not to use him in the FA Cup, so that if we recall we may be able to play him in that competition.
If we recall him, we may be better off keeping him at Arsenal. He would get game time in the FA Cup, Europa League.

Graham62

In a way, I also have some sympathy for Xhaka.

It beggars the question then- What the fudge is Emery playing at?

Does anyone know?

Does he know?

Un na naai

If the club continue to sit on their hands while we tank under another manager, once again then they are complicit. Kroenke, Raul, Edu. After what happened at the end with wenger. They need to act swiftly and decisively. The longer this emery shit show goes on the worse things get for arsenal as a footballing entity. Raul appointed him or helped to. It’s high time for the suits to be proactive and do their fucking jobs for the sake of arsenal. Emery is sinking and we are going with him. This is a fantastic opportunity to leap frog 3… Read more »

Un na naai

Are you feeling alright Valentin?What you just describe is just what reserve means.

Ishola
Why don’t you reserve your dopey comments?

Valentin

Ishola,

I incorrectly worded what I meant. What I meant is that it won’t be the youth team they used in the previous round.

Their team is likely to still have more experience (and quality) than Arsenal.

Un na naai

Val

Klopp could field a youth team and they’d still beat us. Xakha is 100% right

We are scared little rabbits under emery.

If emery started a boyband it would be called No direction.

Ishola70

Valentin
“Their team is likely to still have more experience (and quality) than Arsenal.”

Of course everyone knows that they have a better overall squad to call on and as you say they can call on more experienced players that don’t see that many first team matches and this is why they are clear favourites for the match.

Danialtos

Lucas Perez (rember him)with a great strike

Pierre

Liverpool can still field a decent team tomorrow, as Arsenal can . Clyne, Gomez, Milner, ox, keita, lallana, origi I would expect to start….maybe a couple of kids and one of their main strikers and main defenders. Arsenal looks like being AMN, mustafi, holding , kolasinac Torreira, willock, , Ozil, .Martinelli, Saka, ESR. Pity Nketiah will be sitting on his back side doing nothing again up north , as he would have been ideal up top with Martinelli and Saka either side and Ozil sitting behind. Without Nketiah the team looks unbalanced unless he plays Lacazette or Aubameyang, which is… Read more »

Nelson

I start to think that Bellerin is more suitable to be the next captain than Auba. He is more vocal. He won’t get pushed around. Also, he speaks Spanish. No communication problem with Emery. Rumor is that Auba wants to quit next Summer.

Primus Interpares

If Xhaka is not disciplined after this tantrum, a clear precedent will be set where any player who feels unjustly substituted will throw a tantrum and probably hit the highway before the game is over. Emery needs to show that he is in charge because it’s not just the fans watching but his players too. As for Xhaka, it’s not the first time he has had a spat with the fans he seems unrepentant and arrogant judging from the look of things or knows his messed up and out of pride does not how to clean up his mess after… Read more »

Un na naai

We should have sold Aubameyang this summer while his stock was high

Marc

Pierre

I can’t see Torreira starting tomorrow unless Xhaka is going to start on Saturday and that would be a staggering decision.

Give the Nketiah agenda a fucking rest Martinelli looks 10 times the player and so far has been best through the middle.

Nketiah will be sold next summer, the loan deal is nothing more than trying to add to his transfer value.

Marc

Un

How many goals has he scored this season?

Marc

Bellerin as Captain?

Where the fuck does this bullshit come from?

Can someone please give me an example of Bellerin’s outstanding leadership on the pitch?

Valentin

According to Raul own word, players with two years left on their contract are either renewing, sold or old player that the club want to keep as back for the next two years with low or no resale value. Aubameyang should have been renewed or sold. The club did not follow it’s own rule. Aubameyang always had the dream of playing for Real Madrid. Real Madrid would be interested if he were available at a cut price. So reports that he wants out next summer are not surprising. The only thing that could hamper his move would be his high… Read more »

Redtruth

Has Xhaka been sacked yet ?

Graham62

Not a surprise that Auba would want to quit next summer.

If Emery stays, he and maybe even Lacazette will want out.

Marc

Valentin

“So reports that he wants out next summer are not surprising.”

I’m so glad Auba’s agent isn’t bright enough to start rumours about him leaving on a free / cut price deal to give him a stronger hand in negotiating a final “big” money deal.

Pierre

Marc “Give the Nketiah agenda a fucking rest Martinelli looks 10 times the player and so far has been best through the middle.” Nketiah agenda , they are both potentially very good players . A front line of Martinelli, Nketiah and Saka is a well balanced attack . If I had a choice up top , I would play Nketiah as he is a better around player, obviously you feel different. I said from day one that the loan to leeds was pointless due to our involvement in the Europa and league cup , and it is being proved right..… Read more »

Marc

Red

That would cost us a degree of money – fuck knows what we could get for him in a transfer.

I just hope he’s got the balls to man up and keep to his convictions and look for a transfer.

Marc

Pierre

I don’t think it’s about what’s good for Nketiah. I just think he’s one of a long line of young players who’s whilst looking good at a lower level the club know won’t make it and are looking to maximise his value.

Argue that Leed’s was the wrong move but he was always going on loan to be sold – it was just where.

Graham62

Based on the ongoing turmoil at the Emirates, Eddie Nketiah is probably in the best place.

Marc

“I said from day one that the loan to leeds was pointless due to our involvement in the Europa and league cup , and it is being proved right..”

How?

Our best performances this seasons have been in the League Cup and EL where Martinelli looks like a real find.

Argue Leed’s was the wrong move but to say a loan was wrong is farcical.

Chris

Pierre when Leeds bid for Nketiah their presentation stated he would be playing games on the regular. If that had been true he would have been playing many more games than simply league cup and Europa League. Arsenal sent him there on good faith. That he isn’t playing much is surprising and probably why Arsenal are considering cutting short the loan and possibly sending him somewhere else. Bristol City was another option back in the summer so perhaps he goes there to get requisite game time. The Championship is a great competitive place to get more experience so hopefully that… Read more »

Marc

Graham

I wonder if he’s got a spare room for Xhaka?

Marc

Chris

I’m sure I read somewhere that Arsenal put a caveat in the loan deal about minimum appearances. If he’s not getting them we’ll recall him and send him out again.

The major question is why isn’t he getting the games?

Pierre

Marc You seem convinced that Nketiah wont make it . You have been taken in by martinelli’s goals against weaker opposition than the premier league , which is normal. There are parts of his game that are very good …work rate , pace, intensity, willingness to score, quick feet in the box , great attitude . I think he needs to get his head up more when he is on the ball but that will come hopefully. Nketiah has more composure in his play, he also has a lot of Martinelli ‘s attributes but I think he is just ahead… Read more »

Marc

Pierre

I’ll bet you a cold beer on a warm day that Nketiah won’t be with us on the first day of next season.

Chris

Marc I think that too and in which case the loan deal will probably be cut short. Nketiah has been used from the bench mainly but has been coming on earlier and earlier recently. It seems Bielsa still prefers Bamford who is a better hold up player. Curious as to why Leeds would make the move and claim Nketiah would have lots of solid game time only to leave him on the bench. It’s not really benefitting anyone. If Nketiah returns but doesn’t go out on loan in January it is doubtful he would see more than fa cup games… Read more »

Marc

Pierre

I’ll bet you a second cold beer on a warm day that Nketiah will being playing in the Championship or lower in 3 seasons.

Marc

Chris

“Curious as to why Leeds would make the move and claim Nketiah would have lots of solid game time only to leave him on the bench.”

Maybe they are seeing something in the flesh and in training that they didn’t get in the scouting reports.

Pierre

Chris
” If Nketiah returns but doesn’t go out on loan in January it is doubtful he would see more than fa cup games as we would likely be playing a stronger line up in latter stage Europa League.”

I said all along that it would be better to keep Nketiah up until Christmas due to our involvement in Europe and league cup, then after Christmas ,if we have a fully fit front line, send him out on loan because, as you say, the main strikers will play in the latter stages .

Makes sense to me .

Guns of SF

The logical thing Arsenal should do is:

1. Strip Xhaka ASAP and discipline him. Benched for at least 2 games in a row.
2. Give the captain to Auba- he is our main man, and we need to keep him and extend his contract
3. Emery needs to be given an ultimatum in regard to player management and success on the field until Dec.
4. Narrowing the goals is critical now. We are floundering and need consistency- If UE cannot deliver. Fire him in Dec.

Pierre

Bielsa comment on Nketiah
“Some players are involved (in play) a lot before creating chances. Nketiah is more involved at the end of the action but he has good characteristics to combine with his team-mates to give us these options.

“He is a striker who can score goals. For me, he is a complete player.”

Marc

SF

You’re almost there I’ve made a small change to your list and it’s far better.

1. Strip Xhaka ASAP and discipline him. Benched for at least 2 seasons in a row.
2. Give the captain to Auba- he is our main man, and we need to keep him and extend his contract
3. Emery needs to be given an ultimatum in regard to player management and success on the field until Dec.
4. Narrowing the goals is critical now. We are floundering and need consistency- If UE cannot deliver. Fire him in Dec.

Bamford10

Tee

“This team, with a competent coach is a top 4 team.”

Depends a little on what you mean by this, but Xhaka, Torreira, Guendouzi and Ceballos is not a top four midfield, and Chambers, Sokratis, Luiz and Kolasinac is not a top four defense. Emery’s defensive options will improve a little going forward, but he has been working with a lot less than you seem to think he has.

Cesc Appeal

‘3. Emery needs to be given an ultimatum in regard to player management and success on the field until Dec.’ Slightly too generous. I’d give him until the international break. Liverpool Wolves Vitoria Leicester Not only are results important but we also need to see good displays. Losing at Liverpool and Leicester and then scraping 2-1 or something against Wolves and Vitoria in a basketball style game is not enough. I would then give myself the international break to replace him. Especially seeing as our fixtures after that (Southampton at home, Frankfurt at home, Norwich away and Brighton at home)… Read more »

Nelson

Emery:”our conversation this morning was because I wanted to listen to him about how he’s thinking now to help us and be with us tomorrow. Then if we are in the same spirit and the same idea, to play.

It was a very good conversation and tomorrow he’s in the group.”

Sounds like Emery is not so sure Ozil still wants to play football.

Guns of SF

Marc

Nice edit lol

Bamford10

In what world is Nketiah a relevant topic at the moment? Oh right, in Pierre World. Let me say it again for the record: you need to speak to a professional, Pierre. Seriously.

Marc

Cesc

Emery needs to be judged on the upcoming league matches. The match tomorrow is at best a coin toss. If City went there in the League Cup and lost no one would bat an eyelid. The EL is also a distraction, we need 6 points against Wolves and Leicester.

Guns of SF

CA

Yes indeed the next few games are not good…could spell the end.
Something tells me he wont get the boot though… Like Arsenal cannot handle too much drama at once or something. They just grin and bear it

Marc

Bamford

An enthusiastic amateur would be a step in the right direction for Pierre!

Pierre

Bamford
” but xhaka Torreira, Guendouzi and Ceballos is not a top four midfield, ”

If you put fabinho, wijnaldum and Henderson in Arsenals midfield , do you think we would suddenly become a title winning team under Emery. …no.

Emery would probably play Fabinho as the CAM .

Pierre

Marc
“Bamford, An enthusiastic amateur would be a step in the right direction for Pierre!”

Paling up with the resident le Grove clown is not a wise thing to do Marc.

Marc

Pierre

It was a bit of banter – come on you can handle that!

Pierre

Marc
“we need 6 points against Wolves and Leicester”

I’d settle for 2 draws at the moment and hope we win tomorrow night to keep the interest in the season going.

Traore’s pace for wolves could cause us a few problems and I rate Jota up front.

The one positive of the last week is Pepe.
Although he is still not totally firing on all cylinders , he is a player with a fantastic dead ball delivery and and no team will want to give away free kicks on the edge of their area.

Ishola70

Pierre still chasing the egg cups as consolation for failing in the bigger competitions.

Guns of SF

why xhaka has not apologized yet is a little perplexing.
OTOH, the club have seemingly advised him to do so…
His reluctance, change of IG profile photo speaks another story to me.
I hope tomorrow to read that Auba has taken the armband

Pierre

Ishola
“Pierre still chasing the egg cups as consolation for failing in the bigger competitions.”

You seem to struggle with the concept that winning a domestic cup is better than winning sweet FA…

We ain’t winning the league anytime soon , that’s for sure.

Marc

Pierre

I wouldn’t put any money on us getting 6 points from our next 2 league matches but Emery needs to start getting results that aren’t forgone conclusions – if we even have those any more – he needs to start doing the unexpected.

Do I think he’s capable of doing this – honestly no.

Do I think our senior management are as impotant as portrayed on here – no it’s not the same people.

Ishola70

Pier

”You seem to struggle with the concept that winning a domestic cup is better than winning sweet FA…”

And you seem to struggle with the concept that winning a domestic cup where reserve players abound only papers over cracks.

What kind of nonsense is it to state that you would rather drop EPL points in succession in comparison to advancing in the carabooboo.

Winning carabooboo isn’t going to get this club moving forward.

The club badly need to get back where the money is to try to advance not a carabooboo.

Bamford10

Marc

“We are floundering”

We are in 5th place in the PL and are four points off of a good Chelsea team. We are there despite having played the first nine weeks of the season without three of our four starting defenders. Where in the first five matches we conceded an average of 19 shots per game, in the last five matches we have conceded an average of 11 shots per game. That’s clear improvement.

I’m not sure what has gotten into the water where you live, but some of you lot really need to get a grip.

Guns of SF

This is like end of last season again.
Leiscester and Wolves.

Lets see if we have learned any lessons or improved… a real litmus test coming up

Redtruth

“The first trophy is to finish in the top four,” said Wenger, after the Sunderland game. “And that’s still possible. I believe finishing fourth is vital for us, so let’s focus on that.”

Wenger would rather win fuck all lol

Marc

Bamford

I never used the term floundering. You’ve either made that comment up or taken it from another poster.

Bamford10

Marc

My bad. That was Guns of SF. Apologies, all. The quote above is from Guns of SF, not Marc.

Marc

Bamford

I did copy and paste it and make a small correction.

I will say this though Emery is finished, he’s not performing and currently looks like he’s stuck in a vicious circle of panic and indecision.

Guns of SF

Bamford We have good water here. Very clean and some of the best. From the Hech Hechy reservoir. LOL Honestly, the results have not been good. With the new summer camp and new bodies, it seems like its just the same. We struggle to score, we conceded all the time and there is no consistentcy, style and players are confused. Throw in the Ozil and Xhaka chaos- the captaincy chaos Its a shit show man. Plain and simple. We lose the next 3 and its curtains for UE… We are not stronger than Leicester- for sure. We might tie with… Read more »

Guns of SF

Lets see if UE plays Xhaka his loyal captain who works so hard in training.

We will get pummeled again…. over run in midfield guaranteed.

Interesting to see how the team responds with what kind of fight…
Do we have any strategy going into these next games??? or are we going to see some sulky pissy petulant displays

Give Auba the armband and the ball,,,, lets pray he can save our bacon again

Pierre

Ishola
“What kind of nonsense is it to state that you would rather drop EPL points in succession in comparison to advancing in the carabooboo.”:

Not quite what I said was it , but if it makes you feel better that you have to twist my words to prove a point , so be it.

It’s called being realistic ..

Redtruth

It’s not easy adapting to a new league just ask Pochettino whose won fuck all….

Bamford10

Guns of SF “This is like end of last season again. Leicester and Wolves.” You mean when a very mediocre group of Arsenal players lost to a good Leicester City team that is currently third in the PL? And when that same group of mediocre Arsenal players lost to a good Wolves team that recently beat Man City 2-0? You mean when you lot wrongly assumed our players were better than these teams’ players and that these losses were entirely on the manager? Yeah, I remember that. I remember you lot getting everything fucking wrong, just as you are doing… Read more »

Guns of SF

I disagree Bamford We have good players- why cant we beat these teams? We should be competing for top 4 strongly, yet, there are excuses again as to why we lose. Im tired of the excuses… we were in a strong position last season and completely blew it. No excuses needed. Needed on win and we got none in the last few games… If UE could not get the strategy and motivation right, then I doubt he will now in the midst of this chaos. The players are feeling it, mark my words… Im just worried that Auba and Laca… Read more »

Redtruth

Wenger: Arsenal fans should be pleased with second place Gunners boss reacts angrily to growing number of critics BY MIRROR FOOTBALL 01:00, 9 APR 2011 Arsene Wenger last night told Arsenal fans they should be happy finishing second for the next 20 years. In a passionate defence of his management, he blasted former Gunner Paul Merson who questioned his record after six years without a trophy. Wenger was clearly shaken by criticism unprecedented during his 15-year reign. The Arsenal Supporters’ Trust called results a “considerable disappointment”. Arsenal fans came to blows among themselves during last Saturday’s draw with Blackburn, a… Read more »

Guns of SF

and do not get me wrong. I want us to win… win every game we play and show the fight and courage it takes- even if we fall short. I think that is what most Arsenal fans want..

I do hope i am wrong- I hope we beat these teams but realistically given what we know… it will be hard

Bamford10

Marc

“he’s not performing”

How do you figure? He’s in 5th and our defensive play is improving. Do we have a top four first XI? I’m not sure we do. Not at the moment at least. Personally, I think you, like a few others, have gotten swept up in this anti-Emery mob mentality nonsense.

Marc

Bamford

So where should Emery finish with this team?

What is unacceptable results wise under Emery?

Redtruth

“and do not get me wrong. I want us to win… win every game we play and show the fight and courage it takes- even if we fall short. I think that is what most Arsenal fans want..”

Says the msn who yearns the return of Wenger lol

Guns of SF

Who wants wenger back? you red?

Marc

Bamford

How do I figure we’re / Emery’s not performing?

We’re fucking awful at the moment. We’re going into a match at home on Saturday against a team that we should beat and if you went to 50,000 fans at the stadium before kick off and told them the result would be a 1 nil loss no one would be surprised.