Puppet Master Behind Mesut Ozil Strategy

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I thought I’d wait to see what the BIG DOG DAVE ORNSTEIN penned on The Athletic this morning before dropping a post on the aftermath of Xhaka-gate yesterday.

Predictably, the piece points towards a familiar story… a lack of leadership at Arsenal.

I’m not calling time on anyone yet, but my deep fear is fancy players aside, the direction of Arsenal is somewhat off-track again, or, more to the point, has never been on track. Rumblings I hear from the club around leadership have been far from positive, and the fact that there was a motion to offer Unai Emery a new deal last summer tells you that the expertise levels in some parts of the boardroom are well off.

The big talking point today was the list of managers that were under consideration in 2018. The shortlist was pretty much where we expected it to be. I was surprised Enrique / Jardim weren’t on the list. I was surprised Lopetigui was on there. Outside that, the shortlist had all the obvious candidates.

Arteta was the frontrunner, the point that is missing for me is that Unai Emery most certainly wasn’t on the original shortlist. From what I understand, he was a last-minute sub when Ivan lost his nerve on Mikael Arteta. I don’t think it’s hard to piece that together from the timeline of events, and I think even the staunchest Emery fan would be hard pushed to convince anyone that Unai was a better candidate than most of the names on the list. I know that his English was raised as a concern by people at interview stage, namely, that he couldn’t speak a word of it. I know from doing my own personal numbers and research he was a bad candidate, so I can’t imagine our number crunchers gave him a thumbs-up, most likely because no analysis was done due to the time crunch. Even a cursory look at Google would tell you he couldn’t organise a defence, he had trouble with egos and the football was overly negative.

So unless every single person on that list rejected the club, it really must have just been Arteta at the death before we switched attention to someone that had been freshly fired.

Arteta’s lack of a backroom team was apparently a problem. Again, it’s another contradiction for me. The club has gone out of its way to talk about the new modern infrastructure, then the first thing we do is let Unai Emery bring in 5 of his own coaching staff, completely unvetted after being fired by PSG? How is that due diligence? We literally bought in a strength and conditioning coach when we already had one that had won a World Cup with Germany and transformed our pitiful operation back in the day. We had an assistant. We had a keeping coach. We had video analysts. We could have just copied what PSG did for Thomas Tuchel, namely, gone out and purchased whoever the best assistant in world football was at the time. If the only problem you have with a candidate is they don’t have 2 additional coaching staff, that’s kind of ideal. It reduces the candidate’s power, gives leadership more control of the direction of the club, and gives everyone the assurance that quality control measures were in place.

Major point here: The club fired Wenger in April. They had time to work out all of these kinks. They had the opportunity to rebuild Arsenal around a vision. Fuck whether that was Arteta or not. The idea was correct. Bring in a young coach with big ideas. Set the bar low with the fans, tell them we’re building an exciting future around kids, and we’re going to build from the ground up, and we’re going to make The Emirates the most exciting place to watch football in the world. Exactly the approach Chelsea took this season.

How could last season have been any worse than what it was? We’d have had a style in place now, a City light. The players would have known what they’re doing. We’d be in year two now and we’d all know exactly where we were heading as a club.

Again, I have to return us to the original point. Some of our leadership team wanted to give Emery a new deal last summer, despite the mountain of evidence he was tanking the squad. This season, seeing that we’re in deep decline again, with fires literally everywhere, we’re being assured the manager will be given time.

Based on what? A lack of a replacement could be a fair point. Not surprisingly, there’s no contingency plan outside Freddie Ljungberg, which is a huge problem and a major red flag. How can no thought have gone into contingency after watching the insipid Europa League final? How can they not have a list of 5 candidates after travelling down to the training and seeing what’s going on? We should have someone waiting by the phone, studying our squad, making plans.

You know what happens when you don’t have a plan? Jose Mourinho. The lack of direction we have is similar to that of United. Because you don’t know where you’re going, you outsource your decisions to super agents. Make no mistake, Mourinho would feel good in the moment, but he’s an arsonist. He’d bury us in 2 seasons. OGS is taking a lot of stick at the moment, no one is out here pointing the finger at Jose for the wreckage he left him to fix.

Interestingly I was told that Edu has been the black hand behind the Mesut Ozil issue that’s going on. Questionable strategy against a player that has public sentiment on his side, not to mention the fact he’s consistently communicated to the media that he’s going nowhere. Again, is this what you’d call leadership? Creating a huge media fuss for what is essentially a losing battle that has in part, contributed to the break-neck speed in which public sentiment has turned against the manager. I would also bet that this inconsistent behaviour has led to some of the dressing room split that lots of papers are reporting on this morning.

Remember this: Arsenal pulled forward transfer budget from this upcoming summer to make last year happen. It wasn’t a gift from Josh. It wasn’t anything clever. It was a major gamble. The missing part of the commendable effort was considering the manager. He’s not very good, we could all see that last season, but Raul has been so invested in the decision, maybe he can’t see beyond his nose here?

Let’s see where it goes, but it’s worth noting we’re in October, two of our captains are in disgrace, the football is terrible, there’s a dressing room split, the fans have turned against a manager so petrified at the moment he has ‘good ebening’ Tourettes syndrome and it’s affecting him in interviews.

Not a good look. We need strong leadership and we need it now. Showing faith in something that’s clearly broken is not that.

What’s the plan, Arsenal?

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Bankz

I knew I should have waited a little.
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grooveydaddy

Trophy

guest man aka WW

At least we can oust Emery relatively quickly as opposed to the “lifer” just dictating his own job for life , that was Arsene Wenger.
I think we should be optimistic….change is gonna happen.

kristoman

Whats up

Ishola70

So Edu is being criticised now in relation to Mesut Ozil? The Edu that has been portrayed on this blog in only positive terms up until now. People really need to get over Mesut Ozil. He is a completely different issue to the overall scheme. He is a problem all on his own. Ozil has been ostracised by the club. Fans need to take that on board. If people want to use a player such as Mesut Ozil to beat Emery with then all well all good. All things considered in warfare as they say. But others couldn’t give a… Read more »

Keno

Just wait and get Allegri or Luis Enrique for continuity. To rebuild from youth, Brendan Rogers or Patrick Vierra to be assisted by Freddie L. and allow them to use youth. Recruit youth and forget about the UCL or Top 4 nonsense.
Aresenal had a chance to sign Soyuncu but instead went for Luis! Look at what he is doing now at Leicester!

Manxgooner

Emery is the turd I’m afraid! If your wanting everyone to get over Mesut Ozil they why bring him up… like what’s this guy actually done that’s so wrong? I’m still confused?

salpardisenyc

Really surprised Jardim wasn’t on managerial hit list.

Regarding Ornstein mere fact a section of board wanted to give Emery an extension this past summer coupled with amount of time it took to rid club of Wenger should give any Arsenal supporter worry.

Personally think their going to have to address the Unai situation sooner rather than later, once fan base turn it takes much to turn that. Notably big performances with results to match and he really doesn’t seem to possess that quality this season.

Keno

Emery can not identify the potential of each Arsenal player. He would know what he has and is lacking, what he needs for what kind of formation or style of play.
As it is, he resorts to experiments and gambles. How can you not know your best IX?

Ishola70

Why does it have to be either or Manx

People can say Ozil is a waster as well as saying Emery isn’t good enough.

What has Ozil done? Precisely. Not enough.

Guns of SF

Great post Pedro. I read somewhere that because Ozil said in the press he aint going anywhere, that the team is pissed off, and now freezing him out altogether. Very passive aggressive. Anyhow, who knows. He is a non factor to me. Xhaka situation is very important.What he did was inexcusable. Emery has come out and said that much – now, Xhaka needs to be rested, stripped of captaincy. Fuck Lucas T…. stop crying you little fucking cry baby. This is a mans game. Interesting to see the headlines regarding Laca liking and IG post smashing Emery and Xhaka. Lots… Read more »

Ishola70

Why bring Ozil up?

He’s in the title heading of this latest post for some reason.

kristoman

Optimistic? This is arsenal we are talking about here.They will disappoint you

Ishola70

My estimation of Edu has only got higher after just hearing today on this blog that he is the prime mover in banishing Mesut Ozil.

Guns of SF

I want to know who the three players are that went to “console” Xhaka.

salpardisenyc

Regardless of personal feeling on Ozil for Emery its a giant distraction.

One that will haunt and be used against him until he gets his mid field functioning. Making the argument that Ozil is expendable with a purring midfield to lead with is a much stronger look than attempting same showing total inability to crack the nut.

kristoman

I want emery to leave now but knowing arsenal they would wait until things turn sour and unredeemable before they will act. Gosh am fucking sad.

Manxgooner

He’s done nothing? That’s probably cause he’s not been played this season and let’s be honest here, the football hasn’t exactly
Improved has it? In fact, football has totally gone out the window. He’s just made a scapegoat.

I would %100 get it if he was taken out of them team and all of a sudden let’s say Ceballos steps in and he’s creating chance after chance.. but he’s not. When’s the last time you can actually say Arsenal played well? Like you enjoyed watching a game?

Ishola70

The club need to move forward.

Pining for a player like Mesut Ozil is not moving forward despite the obvious dissatisfaction with Unai Emery.

It’s harking back. And there are fans who precisely want to hark back to Ozil for reasons we all know.

Then there are others that of course will throw everything at hand in the direction of Emery for what they see as necessary but the irony in all this is those that wanted Wenger out and are now Ozil pot stirring are in fact stirring the old Wenger pot as well. They are inextricably linked.

Guns of SF

Allegri is learning English… Can see him taking Manu. or lets hope even us…

George Ukaz

It is the high time for every one to know that Emery is not a top grade coach for a club like Arsenal the urgent you do away with him the better otherwise by December the position you will see Arsenal no true supporter will like because he always experimenting since he came he can not pick his strong eleven players always changing players except xaka and he is playing him out of position at least you play good football that was why we loved Arsene Wenger even if lost you will expect a better football

Wasi

Emery is tanking . That is clear as day but i do understand why the club is showing patience with him. They dont want a Man United situation to happen at Arsenal. We cannot afford to get into that mess because honestly we dont have the money that Man United have got which is still keeping them on the edge at least. If we get into that spiral in 3-4 years we’ll become an Everton/ West Ham. We cant spend 150 mil every summer like United. But in the current squad we possess the potential to become elite again. We’ve… Read more »

Radio Raheem

I don’t get the sense that fans are behind Özil despite large sections chanting his name yesterday. It was more a an attempt to undermine Emery – he has, essentially, lost most fans. We’ve consistently looked turgid and fans have lost patience. We can all understand fans’ impatience stems from the ‘turgidness’ of play that precedes Emery.

This chanting of Özil isn’t an overly logical act as there’s no (recent) evidence that supports the said player being creative.

Özil isn’t winning any media war or spat against Emery (or Arsenal) he’s simply a convenient stick to beat Emery with.

Ishola70

Manxgooner “He’s done nothing? That’s probably cause he’s not been played this season and let’s be honest here, the football hasn’t exactly Improved has it” I’m not talking about this season. Of course no player can be judged if he doesn’t play. I’m talking about recent past seasons prior where his overall input wasn’t consistent enough as well as him crying off for too many matches. The club as a whole has decided to banish Mesut Ozil. All this Ozil stuff is exactly the same bullshit as we hear regarding the departure of Ramsey. Stick to the definite clear as… Read more »

shedzy

Our club is so messed up.
We had it all when Kroenke took over – and now look – what a pile of cack.

Radio Raheem

Emery did ok at PSG (relatively), tanked in Russia for one reason or another and underperforming at Arsenal. One common denominator – all outside of Spain, the country he built his reputation.

Manxgooner

Ishola

“Stick to the definite clear as day faults regarding Unai Emery. There are enough of them”

Agreed

Hate how our club is completely fucked right now! Hurts like fuck.

Ishola70

“except xaka and he is playing him out of position ”

This doesn’t seem to be really the point.

Where is his best position?

Are you telling us with his obvious weaknesses such as lack of mobility and football intelligence off the ball that he would be better further up the pitch? This would only further highlight his weaknesses. He is played deep to try to cover his weaknesses but this is still not covering them up.

The answer is not to play him at all.

Bergkamp63

Ozil & Xhaka should both be frogmarched out of the club along with the manager period. Even if we save half Ozil’s wages, that alone would pay for a new manager without noticing any discernible difference.

If the stance on Ozil is down to Edu, at least someone in the club has his head screwed on.

Wasi

Pedro
What football Emeryball? Which is what now? Whipping in near post crosses for Laca/Xhaka to divert to Far post?

Champagne charlie

Pedro In total agreement, this is cut from a comment I made this morning. The sentiment again highlighted in your take. ‘The Eboue incident was a fucking joke, this is another tale of the same. The reason for it is abject directing of the club, not being wise to last seasons failures and rectifying with a new manager, supporting ridiculous shows of “leadership” as is the case with Ozil. Overseeing a clusterfuck of a selection process for the captains armband. Arsenal football club is weak, that’s the message they send.’ I’ve less issue that Emery hasn’t worked out, and more… Read more »

Wasi

Ishola
Xhaka upfield is like a fish out of water. His best position is on the bench.

HighburyLegend

“Showing faith in something that’s clearly broken is not that.”

Even if it’s Kim Kallstrom ??

Guns of SF

Xhaka embodies the entitled footballer. Those on here know how I feel about that shit. He seems to think that the captaincy and his behavior is justified. He is the Swiss captain…? So he thinks that he can do whatever he wants? I dont care how responsible he was with the house key. His play firstly doesnt warrant us starting him… he is better suited to Serie A. ( ditto Ozil) His wanting to take paternity leave… like WTF His poor play, his critcising the offense, etc. This just wreaks of someone who should not be playing in our team.… Read more »

Ishola70

Wasi
“Xhaka upfield is like a fish out of water. His best position is on the bench.”

Exactly.

People are getting a little confused when they say he is being played out of position.

He is a deep lying playmaker. You’d think people would work it out from that wouldn’t you. Not CM but DLP.

Guns of Hackney

Good post.

Just a thought…traditionally we fell apart in November when The Mad King was in charge, now we’re done and dusted in October (but actually it was more like September)…whatever metric one decides to use, Emery is shit. Really shit.

As Peter the pumpkin eater says “we haven’t even hit roach bottom yet”. Imagine even worse management, worse football and even worse contracts? Oh Lordy.

We have been directionless since Dein left. Fact. Poor old Danny Frizman…this was not his vision.

Guns of SF

I get the feeling Laca may move – he is under age 30, seems to be frustrated more than other players with this shit show.
I see us resigning Auba, Laca moves, and we need to figure out a back up striker… bring Eddie back?
Martinelli?

Just my feeling…

TR7

We should be sniffing around Brendan Rodgers. Emery is on borrowed times.

Globalgunner

Xhaka is gash full stop. He is woeful in any position. Has no athleticism whatsoever, cannot read the game, has late reactions to every situation so has to pull players down as they go by him as even a crab can beat him in a horse race. Who the F thought he would be a good fit for us?…Oh Wenger!
Emery
Ozil
Xhaka
Kola
AMN
1 of Sokratis or Luiz
We should have an Arsenal barn sale. “Buy 1, get 4 for free”

Guns of SF

We should have an Arsenal barn sale. “Buy 1, get 4 for free”

LOL

Guns of Hackney

Global

Pack it in. Yes he’s a Wenger buy but Emery is the one one who still thinks he’s a class act that should be CLUB CAPTAIN!!!

This is all on Emery. Not Wenger. So stop.

Rambo Ramsey

Yeah, I thought Bodgers was a fluke who lucked out with Suarez. But the work he’s done in Scotland and now Leicester speak for themselves.

Guns of Hackney

Oh FFS. Rodgers.

Agony.

Bob N16

Guns, spot on!

James wood

Emery evidently learning English.?👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀🤣

Micheal

Very good post Pedro and an excellent point about no plan. However the elephant in the room from your piece is the owner. Leadership comes from the top and as you rightly say, there is no overall plan which points the finger straight at Kroenke. Personally, I never saw the arrival of Josh K as the answer. Presuambly he got the job solely because is Stan’s kid – not because he is a talented, far-sighted business executive with a vision. Arsenal FC is drifting and rudderless because Stan Kroenke is not interested in our club or football in general. It… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Neil Lennon had a 70% win rate at Celtic
Brenda had a 69.8% win rate.

I’ll need explaining what he did at Celtic that boosts the CV for a spot as Arsenal manager, his European exploits were horrendous…..not bad….horrendous.

He’s been at Leicester how long too?

Un na naai

Adebayor Adebayor his dad washes elephants….

Mics

I say Xhaka should be stripped of the captaincy and the spare key to boot. His little tantrum last night was not becoming of a spare key holder.

Un na naai

Charlie

His Liverpool side were electric. Beautiful to watch
So is his Leicester side.
The only thing that prevented him from the title was a stevie G slip.

Rambo Ramsey

A certain Frenchman was unfancied and laughed at too, once.

Call it my gut feeling, there’s something about Bodgers + Arsenal. I foresee fireworks.

Rambo Ramsey knows these things.

Champagne charlie

Unaai

Is he still at Liverpool?

Radio Raheem

If Brendan maintains his good start till the end of the season them he’ll be worth having a look at. He did finish an unprecedented 2nd with Liverpool. Before that I think he did a decent job with Norwich or Watford? He has a decent body of work in the UK to call on.

HighburyLegend

Leicester vs. Arsenal.
There will be blood – and probably not theirs

And don’t forget the trip to Anfield for the Carambar Cup.

The worst is yet to come…

Uwot?

Never thought I’d say it but I think we need a” Rogering” yes deluded Brendan.cant be any worse at present.said all along …hacker will get Emery the sacker! Deadwood still to clear out,if ever, Ozil( no redemption from me.a total waste of space & the situation must be desperate indeed for fans asking for his reinstatement lol!Hacker.Mustaphi,caballos ( what exactly is it he does?)someone tell me?.Torrerra.a lightweight for the prem.wont cut the mustard. & as for crying when hacker was booed tells you all you need to know.sokratis.a transfer to wwe well past his sell by date & last but… Read more »

TR7

Champagne Rodgers’ best work was at Swansea in my opinion. The Swansea side under him was one of the most aesthetically pleasing lower to mid table side in EPL in recent years. Even at Liverpool, Sterling burst on the scenes under him. He was one Gerrard slip away from becoming the first ever Liverpool manager to win the EPL. One constant theme of Rodgers’ game is smooth football and good choices of personnel. He knows the league and has already got the experience to manage a big club. Needless to say communication is not going to be a problem with… Read more »

Thomas

Get Mourinho. He can organize a defence.

salpardisenyc

Swansea City.. where he had three envelopes with three players names who’ll let squad down, those envelopes went to Liverpool which was pretty cringe, but the results are there and Brendan looks a decent choice at this stage. Michael Owners not the elephant in the room from my seat. Have put in a leadership structure to push club into new supposed era and backed that team to the tune of £200+m over two summer windows. The tools have been supplied to complete the task at hand, its all down to the execution of those in charge. This squad is more… Read more »

Major_Jeneral

We need to change things just as Chelsea are doing right now and Liverpool have done in the past.
Clearly Edu knows Özil is not one for keeps.
And I am optimistic that there is already a
Shortlist that the club has for the next manager.
The behavior of Xhaka should not be tolerated else it will give more room for bullshit.

Guns of SF

Get Mourinho. He can organize a defence…

Interesting thought… but ive always found him to be anti football too. He is too much a pragmatist…

however, his players usually respect him. He takes the heat away from them to allow them to play.

I think he turns sour when things do not work out.. it becomes a shit show of epic proportions…. when times are good, he is a God, when things arent, he is a POS

James wood

Harry Redknapp wanted Rodgers as his no 2 when in charge of England.
I’m pretty certain he spoke highly of him in his book.

At this moment in time yes .
At least we will all understand what he says
Well nearly.?

Un na naai

The wreckage mourinho left OGS??

Get a fucking grip Pedro
Man U won the Europa and are now back in the champions league due to mourinho.
He is the only man to do a semi decent job with a club that is ruining the careers of anyone who goes near it post Fergie. And that includes the players

You want a winner? Look no further. United are a shit show. Pure and simple. And we are treading the exact same path post wenger

Like I’ve said all along
Be careful what you wish for. It just might come true

Champagne charlie

TR7 I think Martinez is hugely overlooked for the influence he had on that Swansea side. Rodgers Liverpool season of note was more a result of a perfect storm than his managerial prowess, Sturridge, Suarez, Sterling were completely unplayable, better than any front three going currently. He’s better than Emery because he has a philosophy he looks to play to, he understands the components necessary to that, and he has a much better grasp of what works in England. I just don’t think he’s “that” manager for us. He’d be in the ‘competent’ bracket rather than exciting. I’d put him… Read more »

Un na naai

He’d bury us in two seasons?

Pedro
Chelsea twice , Porto and Madrid didn’t do too badly post mourinho
I’d take my chances. Two seasons of Jose would be just the ticket and a total fucking culture shock to the softies.
He’d do wonders with Pepe and Lacazette
Think he’d bin off Aubameyang as soon as possible.

David Smith

Astounding some wanted to give Emery a new deal last summer.
Take it those who did included Raul and Josh who would lose face if Emery went, those who opposed it presumably included Edu who actually knows something about the game?
It seems Emery is safe until the end of the season, personally, I am not so sure, especially if he tanks even further over Xmas

Un na naai

Champagne charlieOctober 28, 2019 16:55:46
UnaaiIs he still at Liverpool?

No. Neither is Benitez.

Un na naai

Sturridge, Suarez, Sterling were completely unplayable, better than any front three going currently.

Don’t forget Coutinho. He has a wenger-esque knack for getting his attackers to click. In sync. For bringing the best out of players who want to play

Total opposite to Jose but either would be a yes from me.
As would arteta or allegri.
Bergkamp back in the coaching staff
Not so sure about paddy v.

Guns of SF

The EL is not guaranteed. There are some tough teams in there, and when the CL rejects drop down, it becomes even tougher…
We drop out of EL in the knockout phase then i think the knives will really be out for Emery.
I do not think he last past this season if he does not get top 4..

Champagne charlie

Unaai

Benitez left for Inter Milan, not Celtic. You’re championing Rodgers because of a season he had as Liverpool manager?

TR7

Charlie

Swansea, Liverpool, Celtic and now Leicester – 4 jobs in which Rodgers has done a good job. Not saying he did all on his own but we have seen many managers bungle up good opportunities at good clubs with quality players. Rodgers has built upon whatever he has inherited at various clubs which is important in our context too. We have some good players and a good set up, we need someone who can get things moving in the right direction again. Good playing style to boot.

HighburyLegend

“He’d bury us”
Nop, HigburyLegend, at your service.

Agree with you about Maureen.
Just to bring some “balls” in our squad…

TR7

Rodgers was Chelsea youth team coach too for 4 years, another plus point in my view.

Radio Raheem

Arteta or Rodgers? 🙂

Guns of SF

Rodgers for me over the helmet head…

azed

Arsenal will not pay compensation to get a manager so Brendan Rogers is out of the equation.

Pierre would be disappointed with the news that Edu is behind the Ozil saga.

Champagne charlie

TR7

How can’t you define his time at Liverpool as a good job? He finished 7th, 2nd, 6th. The one season being used as a reference can quite reasonably be explained away by citing SSS, he was dismissed for NOT delivering growth and improvement.

Again, as stated earlier, why was his Celtic spell a highlight when Neil Lennon delivered comparable results?

And his work at Leicester is already filed under a good job? Fuck me, how many games has even he managed there? Seems just a bit premature.

Un na naai

Charlie

I’m championing Rodgers because he’s improved every single side he’s been at while producing lovely football.
He’d be made for a club like arsenal.

Un na naai

Again, as stated earlier, why was his Celtic spell a highlight when Neil Lennon delivered comparable results?

Cc
Yes in a league of one. My 3 year old could deliver similar results at Celtic since rangers got canned.

Un na naai

Charlie.

His Swansea was everyone’s favourite second team while he was there. I loved watching them.
Same as when he went to Liverpool.
He’s now having a similar effect on Leicester. All this while playing the game the way it should be played. Nothing boring or pragmatic about his teams.

salpardisenyc

You’re naughty Radio!

Dave Smith

Thats the question for me, how much rope will Emery get.

Next two weeks could be very telling.

Others get results could be 10 back on 4th after Leicester, huge gap to justify with likely entire fan base united on seeing new manager brought in and it being only mid November. Could get proper ugly.

Radio Raheem

Sal

😉

Champagne charlie

Unaai

Was literally sacked as Liverpool manager for not improving them, and being the first manager in 50 years to not win a trophy with three years in charge, he ended his third season with a 6-1 loss to Stoke.

But yea…

HighburyLegend

Arteta would please Pedro soooooooooooooo much. lol

HighburyLegend

“over the helmet head”
lol

TR7

Charlie Pool had finished 8th in the table under Dalglish when Rodgers took over. He led Pool to 7th position, 1 position higher in the table. In his 2nd season he got Struddige and Sterling to perform at a very high level. In his last season he struggled but if you lose someone like Suarez and Sturiddge (injury), you are going to struggle. At Celtic he managed one undefeated season and two trebles, nothing to be sniffed at. He has just started at Leicester but you can already see the good work just as we could see Emery was a… Read more »

HighburyLegend

I would love to see what Freddie could do.

Guns of SF

HL, I also would like to see what Freddie can do…
But between Rodgers and Arteta I would pick Rodgers.

However Freddie is an Invincible.. has that Arsenal DNA… so he would be my man over all of them.. lets see what he has

Champagne charlie

TR7

He wasn’t a success at Liverpool, it’s pure revision to claim as such because he’s swinging back around and you’re touting him favourably.

I’m not denying the start he’s made at Leicester, or that he’s a better manager than Emery. I’m saying the bar is lowering if you’re resorting to the sort of talk Rodgers is getting doused in. He’s certainly not a manager I’d be buying out of his current contract, different story if he was there for the hiring.

Un na naai

Champers No mate. He’d lost 3 of his best players at that point. Anyone would suffer. Look what happened to wenger when he lost cesc, rvp and nasri in 2 season. You know full well there’s context needed. Also, you know that Rodgers isn’t just flavour of the month with me as we’ve locked horns over Rodgers before I’m a fan. The only thing that can cha he that is if he bombs, which he never has. Consistently delivers great football and good results. You put him in charge at a club like Arsenal and ensure we aren’t selling off… Read more »

jwl

I reckon many people here are out of there ever loving minds! To read Le Grove, Arsenal would be competing with Liverpool and Man City for league title if we just hired anyone else other than Emery but it just ain’t so. We have numerous flawed players and no coach is going to turn them into world class players who compete for league title. If top management were thinking about extending Emery contract it was because Emery got more points in league, and took us further in Europe, than Wenger did which was quite an achievement when we look at… Read more »

WengerEagle

What a joke yesterday was. 2-nil up after less than ten mins and we somehow rather than build on that to really put out a statement with a strong home win we gift Palace back into the game with soft-Wengerish underbelly defending. Chambers at fault too for bringing down Zaha, I did say he was an accident waiting to happen against pacy one vs one players. Once again no real plan, soft defensively and bereft of ideas going forward. Created very little of note from open play all match. Xhaka our trusted captain telling us to get fucked was twisting… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

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Who would be your pick, realistically, to replace Emery?

Un na naai

Jwl No. It’s not a joke. Nobody is saying even to be competing with city and Liverpool but what the fuck did we get rid of wenger for if you’re happy to settle for this shit? It’s worse than what we were being served two years ago. Minus Sanchez, Theo and Giroud, and with an injured Lacazette and a barley off the boat Aubameyang. Wenger would be wiping the floor with teams like Watford and Sheffield with our current squad. Yes he’d still fall to The big teams and have a soft centre but that was still better than what… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“I’m a fan. The only thing that can cha he that is if he bombs, which he never has. Consistently delivers great football and good results.“ How can you claim he’s never bombed when he’s literally been sacked for tanking at Liverpool? You cant chop and change the metrics when you fancy, you wouldn’t be offering up rubbish like that if it were Emery, who by the same yard stick getting used against Rodgers at Liverpool was did good job at PSG……except I hear he didn’t. So which is it? He never “lost” his best players like Wenger, he spent… Read more »

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