Jose Mourinh-oh-no

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Good morning my darlings, a very short post from me today because I have NOTHING to write about.

The hot news that has the comments section in a fluster is the story that Jose Mourinho has said NO to Lyon. Why? He wants a job in England.

Some are speculating he’s looking to sneak the Spurs job, I find this one tough to grapple with. Daniel Levy knows he has a great coach (that is clearly under fire), one that’s not dealt with dark times in his Scum career so far, so I’d imagine he’ll see it through with Poch.

Interesting thing with Spurs is they haven’t been a well-run club prior to Levy. If anything, Poch and the generation of elite talent they cultivated has been the happiest of accidents. I am going to watch with a fascinated eye to see what happens next, because based on historical evidence, they could go back to type after this generation withers and dies. Poch has created the impossible there, he’s crafted talent, he’s spent very little, and he’s kept players so motivated, money hasn’t been an issue. That’s coming to an end, the dream was a potless one.

Anyway… bring back Harry.

The second Jose conspiracy theory is that he’s waiting on Unai Emery to fail. Mustafi ramped up the pressure. As I said yesterday, the German defensive expert was on the path to a Balon D’or before Emery took over at Arsenal. The Spaniard crushed his spirit, forced Arsenal internet to take up arms against him, now Unai is left with blood on his hands.

Will the board tolerate this? Who knows…

I do think everyone has a feeling in their bones that Jose is waiting for the guillotine to drop. His agent is probably telling Edu that Jose is a top 4 machine, Edu probably has a top 4 bonus planned. The agent might even be slipping him a presentation… not a powerpoint, like Unai did… no, a Google Slides, because he is a modern businessman willing to create in the cloud… the same place he crafted his Arsenal vision.

I do not think this is a good long term option for Arsenal, but contrary to some of the shrieks I hear, Jose would be a good stop-gap… and any man that cries that he misses football is going to be more than happy to take on our incredible squad of players.

Also worth noting the press hype…

‘Jose was right about United after all’

Those stories are no accident.

Right, that’s my inflammatory post for the day, see YOU in the comments where I will battle you with all my will. xxx

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kristoman

By your logic no training then since you can’t assess how good a player is through training. Wow what a coach you are. Bravo

Receding Hairline

Ozil’s numbers attacking wise has declined year on year prior to Emery Ozil started avoiding difficult away grounds prior to Emery’s arrival I will understand all this nonsense if we are talking about a player putting up world class numbers year in year out being sidelined due to a personal issue with the coach, not a washed up professional gamer and semi-retired footballer whose options are DC United and Fenerbache Enough of this Ozil savior of the world and bringer of good football nonsense, some idiot even posted an away game against Barcelona during his time at Madrid to prove… Read more »

Valentin

Graham62,

I am not saying that Emery has to play Özil, just that the argument that he should not be selected because he did not train properly is flawed.
When I prove to you via example that it is a flawed policy, you have no counter arguments, just petty name calling.
You are the one who is therefore made to look stupid.

Receding Hairline

No Valentine you looked stupid when you started comparing players who carried their teams to Ozil, you even dragged in Messi. Ozil did nothing at home to Nottingham’s forest second string side, Ozil wilts the moment the opposition show they are willing to press him hence his habit of avoiding difficult or semi-difficult away games. Ozil has been a problem for AFC long before Emery turned up here and if Emery succeeds in humiliating him out of the club it will be one of his biggest accomplishments Ozil is no Neymar, Messi, KIng or Le Tissier, those men were winners… Read more »

Valentin

Kristoman, Another mischaracterisation of what I wrote. “A good manager selects players on what they can bring in game, NOT JUST just on how they behave in training.” Of course training is important. However that should not be the only criteria. The output during game should also factor in that decision. Right now against Bournemouth we created two chances (including one assists from a set pieces). Even a poor Özil would have created at least one more chance. We are now conceding more shots per 90 minutes than ANY team in the 5 major European league. So the argument that… Read more »

Valentin

Receding, If you learned to read before commenting, you would have noticed that I was not the one who started comparing Özil with Neymar and others. But as usual you have no point to make, just petty unfounded attack. I am sorry, but against Forrest, Özil has a good game. He got an ovation when he was substituted. He kept the ball moving. With better finishing by Nelson, Saka and Martinelli he could have had 3 assists. According to you he had a bad game, maybe if you were to take you hate blinkers off , you would have noticed… Read more »

Receding Hairline

‘If you learned to read before commenting, you would have noticed that I was not the one who started comparing Özil with Neymar and others.””

Yea you just added Le Tissier and Ledley king to the mix for good measure, i can read fine thanks and i can smell BS from afar too. You are mostly full of it.

Receding Hairline

Nor do i have any hate blinkers on

I took a lot of abuse here for Ozil, Paulinho can attest to that, I hoped a change in manager might fire him up and the events during the World Cup with Germany, If anything he became worse. He was never a fighter or a leader and now he isn’t what the modern game needs.

Fenerbache or DC United doesn’t scream world class player in his prime.

Valentin

Receding,

Again, learn to read before commenting.

I did not compare Özil the player to Le Tissier and Ledley King.
I used their situation as an example to show that the argument of ONLY using training to select a player was a flawed policy.

In logic to show that an argument is invalid, you only need to find a case in which the premises are true and the conclusion false. Which I did with both Le Tissier and Ledley King example.

For somebody working in IT, you seem to be easily confused by basic logic.

Tony

RH
Good points

kristoman

According VALETIN
who needs effort in training when you could just walk into team and perform to your talent and abilities without putting effort in trainings. God where do they come from these

Receding Hairline

Valenti you are the one who needs to check up what logic means A player under performing on the pitch for a while now is being asked to train better, show his fitness and earn his place in the squad. If you weren’t a simpleton or agenda driven you will understand the situation for what it is as a whole and not just about effort in training. That you brought up King and Le Tissier, two players who put in less work in training due to injury concerns as proof that “effort in training” does not matter shows you are… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

Fantastic news if we’re getting rid of the pussy in January. Seems we will be paying some of his wages but that was always going to be the case. He’s on about £250 000 a week too much. Speaks volumes that Fenerbahce is the only club seriously interested in him. His career is over and he’s been playing like it for a number of years. You see it all the time, people with skill and ability who ultimate just float around in an environment of comfort because they have no ambition, no drive, no work ethic, no spine. Even if… Read more »

Un na naai

Yea you just added Le Tissier and Ledley king to the mix for good measure, i can read fine thanks and i can smell BS from afar too. You are mostly full of it.

Yeah, mostly coming from your seat

Valentin

Kristoman, You Are trying very hard to systematically misconstrued what I wrote. “Of course training is important. However that should not be the only criteria. The output during game should also factor in that decision.” Like I explained above, being a good trainer does not means that you are a good performer on the pitch. Because during game, decision have to be made in real time, and players need to adapt to what is happening in front of them. In training, you can reset and restart a move. Some players are great during training, but poor during game because they… Read more »

Un na naai

Rh

Le Tiss didn’t train properly because he was lazy and well known for it. Another who’s football knowledge only stretches as far as 08

Ustyno

Ozil has been in decline for while now but Emery picking Xhaka isn’t helping anything too,you can say maybe Xhaka sluggishly fight for the team but for Ozil it’s a different thing entirely,he seems not bothered alot of time… Emery is the issue in all of these,if he is pruning the team of bad players then he should do with all, Mustafi and Ozil are push one side what happen to Xhaka.

Am a big Ozil fan but not sure he will make different in the team again

Valentin

Receding,

Another BS deflection from you now that you have been cornered.
Le Tissier was not injured all his career. He was a lazy bad trainer who carried that reputation all his professional life. However come Saturday he was turning the skill on.
I also noticed that you did not comment on Vivianne Miedema situation. Worst trainer in Arsenal women team, yet best player. How does that reconcile with your opinion. And no she does not carry an injury.

kristoman

RH
it beggers belief that one can just show up in training, told to do some specifics but couldnt and expect to be automatic starter just because he has talent. My GOD

Un na naai

Ust

Why not try? We are fucking atrocious going forward and have been all season cups aside.
Ceballos has brought nothing to the table so far creatively so why not? He still has home games v bottom half sides to strut his stuff

Receding Hairline

“I also noticed that you did not comment on Vivianne Miedema situation. ”

Because unlike you i do not have an opinion or know someone close to everything. I do not know her or anything about Arsenal women but i can guess Vivianne does not avoid difficult away games or end the season with three assists

Un na naai

So ozil didnt run enough in training. That’s why.

kristoman

Valentin
You think messi is great today just by his talent only on match day but does not put effort in training?

Ustyno

Un na

Like I said Emery is the issue,but Ozil isn’t helping himself when reports come out that he is not giving his all during training,even in matches he is gradually losing it,Ozil’s numbers are going down by the day.

That said Emery needs pressing from the front with all the players involved even though am struggling to see any tangible press lately but with Ozil not doing enough during training can he be trusted with (non-existent) pressing from our over tinkering manager

raptora

“Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang has been voted the EPL Player of the Month after scoring in all of his September appearances for Arsenal.

Aubameyang netted five goals in four matches to take his tally for the Premier League season to seven in his pursuit of back-to-back Golden Boots. ”

Yet Guen was voted in our club’s monthly pool. Pure banter.

Yes, Guendouzi rallied us in several occasions but as a whole Auba’s importance has been first grade. We should appreciate him more while we can and while he’s still in his prime.

raptora

Each one of his goals earned us points as well. That’s the most impressive thing. Not netting 3 in 1 game then not scoring at all in the next 3 games.

Valentin

Kristoman,

Do I think that Messi does not put effort in training?
I don’t, but Enrique the Barcelona coach seemed to think so…

Receding Hairline

One thing is for sure, Messi is just as phenomenal on the training ground as he is on the game day. Just ask former teammate Thierry Henry, who described what the Barcelona forward is like in training when he’s upset. “I have seen him doing stuff in training and it is just amazing. When he gets upset, he runs around the whole team. There is nothing you can do.” Henry said in an interview with Sky Sports. “When you have Leo Messi it is a big advantage. When you have that man in your side, anything can happen.” Henry then… Read more »

Pierre

RH
that’s called playing football

Receding Hairline

“But it was not all plain sailing. Messi and Enrique had clashed after a game against Celta when the Argentinean questioned his coach’s tactics and team selection and tensions blew up again after the defeat at Anoeta – Barcelona’s bogey ground – where Real Sociedad won 1-0. Messi had started the game on the bench with Munir in his usual position on the right and reportedly there was a heated exchange in the dressing room after the game with insults flying in both directions. When Enrique took charge of Barcelona in the summer of 2014, in his very first press… Read more »

kristoman

Look at Kante for example, he primarily and predorminately a ball winning midfielder but instructed to do a bit of attacking when he has the chance, not his best fonte but do well when he tries. even with all his talent this new aspect his gamd was developed by Sarri. He is not best at it but he does it when neccessary. That is what we asking of Ozil. Do a little bit of what is not your duting during a game. Is that too much to ask of player

Receding Hairline

what’s called playing football?

Receding Hairline

Kristoman he should do his duty well to begin with, dictate play and not lose possession at the first sign of pressure

Pierre

Back to le Tiss

Ian Branfoot managed him for a short period of time ,hes in the Emery mould I would say.

Benched le tiss regularly, left him out of the side for a period and le tiss totally embarrassed him with 2 of the greatest goals witnessed against Newcastle…pure class.

Branfoot couldn’t even being himself to celebrate the goals , just looked embarrassed.

Luckily for le tiss he did play under managers who respected his quality and this is when he played his best and most productive football .

HighburyLegend

That’s what she said.

Un na naai

Ust

We don’t press anyway
Pepe and Aubameyang are shite on the press

So are xakha and Guendouzi

Only a few of our players really press properly

Ceballos, willock Martinellis and Saka

S Asoa

Valentin
Have brought a football Club up from scratch to Professional League in 3 years , therefore can understand you. Like Pierre said, the perception is different as per exposure .
Anyway thank you for the pearls. Some fell off into the trough though by the looks of it.

Gentlebris

Bamford quoting Raul on Ozil was very clever reasoning. So you actually expect the man to go against Emery in public on any issue whatsoever? Raul was saying clearly that Emery has been informed his services are no longer needed if he fails top 4. No wonder the clown went to OT and instructed the team to sit at the edge of our box. Emery is trying to play negative into top 4, only he doesn’t know how. Teams are taking shot at us for fun even during Emery’s supposed defensive football. And when he tried to attack at home… Read more »

siddharth14

Normski
October 11, 2019 10:23:59

Tony

‘Should be as hilarious as your defending a past-it Ozil’

Almost as hilarious as you defending your life as a sex tourist in Thailand eh Tony?
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😂😂😂😂

Some top banter going in here……

Gentlebris

I would love very much to see Ozil being left out of the team but I happen to be a realist. Right now we don’t play in a way that suggests we don’t need Ozil. Play Ozil with this new setup, let’s see what we get, if Ozil plays three games and we are actually playing poorer, then leave him out, realists would understand. But to just freeze out a guy with a huge reputation for creativity while we so much lack the same is a sad agenda. To support that as a fan is pathetic.

Gentlebris

‘Some top banter going in here……’

That’s no banter Sid, that’s just being a sadist. Tony should just ignore him

Nelson

I’ll visit this site again after the talk about Ozil is over. BYE!

raptora

“Lacazette’s return would mean manager Unai Emery has a full squad to choose from against the newly-promoted Blades in just over a week’s time.”

That’s pretty crazy if you think about it.

Not sure when was the last time it happened. But if you can have our full squad for several months we should be able to get a good run going. Fingers crossed.

Ustyno

Un na

Interestingly the players that are even trying to press according to what you post above are playing in Ozil’s position, Willock and Ceballos could that count for something?

I know what pattern Emery is but like I said earlier Ozil isn’t helping himself

Left testicle

ESR is still injured. I think he’s going to give Diaby and Wilshere a run for their money.

Left testicle

Even when Ozil does press, or track back, its half arsed.

Ustyno

*I don’t know what pattern Emery is inventing*

azed

We’ve scored 13 goals in 8 games while conceding 11.

We have no problems scoring goals but we have a problem conceding and those advocating for Ozil have not told us how Ozil would help us in that regards.

Ozil was an automatic starter for Wenger and we still conceded goals so that idea of keeping the ball is moot.

raptora

ESR should be available after the international break as well.

Un na naai

Ust

He want his attacking midfielder to press their “Xakha”
That’s why he deploys Torriera so high up the field

Which would be fine if it works but it doesn’t. This silly plan of his doesn’t nullify the opposition clearly as even Bournemouth and Watford are getting at us
So why persist?

Normski

Azed ‘Ozil was an automatic starter for Wenger and we still conceded goals so that idea of keeping the ball is moot.’ I idea of keeping the ball is moot? LOL Seems you went to the same school as kristoman. I’ll break it down so it’s easy for you to take in. You will always concede goals in football. Wenger plays Ozil and we conceded goals whilst keeping the ball Emery doesnt play ozil and we concede goals without keeping the ball. BUT Without the ball we concede far more chances and shots on our goal per game but as… Read more »

Un na naai

Nout sadistic in calling someone a sex tourist

Champagne charlie

“We have no problems scoring goals“

Well this is complete bollocks Azed isn’t it

1. Liverpool have scored 20
2. City have scored 27

3. Arsenal have scored 13
4. Leicester have scored 14
5. Chelsea have scored 18

Villa have even scored 13.

We have Aubameyang remember, golden boot winner of last season. So the old “no problem” scoring adage is technically correct, we just quite clearly have a problem creating.

Wonder why Mesut Ozil is being mooted…

Marko

Chelsea 27 on the season Arsenal 25 on the season. Not really an issue. Can’t believe Ozil is still being discussed given his decline and poor performances this season. Maybe when he isn’t playing under a more popular manager will it finally be put to bed. FYI he played 35 times last season on 2,500 odd mins and we still conceded 70+ goals so no didn’t keep the ball or whatever. And the previous season 35 games nearly 3,000 minutes on the season and still conceded 70+goals. Goals under both again one difference too. Don’t see anything that backs up… Read more »

TR7

All Mr. Unai bland Emery seems to be concerned about is running, running and running -be it in a match or in training. Someone needs to remind him he is a football manager, not an athletics manager. I am all for binning Ozil but not because he runs less than other players . He should be offloaded because he can’t be relied upon in tough away games, because he often drifts wide and looks to cross the ball rather than orchestrating the game through the middle but all this ‘running’ nonsense from Emery further deepens my belief that he has… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Can’t argue with that, Raul has painted a pretty dire picture of Ozil there. Hard to see a future for Mesut with that being unleashed., our highest earner not turning up in training, some example.

UTarse

We do not score a lot of goals in the prem, we have yet to win convincingly. We also concede too many.

Maybe now that we have a full strength fit squad, the players will start to click in spite of emery and his tactics rather than because of his tactics.

Bamford10

Gentle One, Emery works for Sanllehi, not the other way around. If the latter had any issue with Ozil being left out of the team, he would say so, subtly or not so subtly. He could’ve said, for example, “Ozil is an important player for us, and I assume he will return to the starting XI sometime soon.” He didn’t, and he didn’t because Ozil isn’t an important player for us, and because he trusts Emery, and because the club is over Ozil. As for your “we only managed two shots on target against Bournemouth” —- something you’ve now repeated… Read more »

Bamford10

If we aren’t creating enough chances or scoring enough goals, this will surely improve with the addition of Tierney and Bellerin to the XI. This will give us good overlapping fullback play, good wide attacking play, and it should put this entire conversation to bed. Especially as our attacking players settle into their roles and gain more familiarity with the schema and with one another.

Champagne charlie

Banford

With all due respect you continually claim we’re a good pressing side and are well organised, so allow posters to posit other such Arsenal-related issues like Ozil without your dictation that it’s not worth chewing over – that’s evidently not stopped you talking absolute waffle on other matters.

salpardisenyc

Peak Ozil would likely not play a pivotal role in an Emery mid field, he seems to value other attributes more.

azed

“I’ll break it down so it’s easy for you to take in.
You will always concede goals in football.
Wenger plays Ozil and we conceded goals whilst keeping the ball
Emery doesnt play ozil and we concede goals without keeping the ball.
BUT
Without the ball we concede far more chances and shots on our goal per game but as long as Ozil doesnt play its ok.
Idiot.”

Wenger’s last season we conceded 51 goals
Last season we conceded 51 goals

Shots against, chances created, possession stats do not add a single point to the table.

azed

“1. Liverpool have scored 20
2. City have scored 27”

Thanks for proving my point CC

Liverpool have scored less and have conceded less hence why they are top of the table.

Bamford10

Chumpagne I challenge anyone to re-watch the first half of Bournemouth and say we weren’t excellent in our pressing for that 45 minutes. No honest observer will be able to say this, because we were excellent. Why this fell off in the second, why we became so porous in the second, well, these are things for Emery to think about. He should begin by recognizing that the plodding, useless and error-prone Xhaka is a problem for us in the center of the pitch. He needs to be replaced with a quicker and more athletic central midfielder, ASAP. Beyond that, if… Read more »

azed

By the way CC

If Villa had conceded less goals, they’ll be higher up the table.

After 3 games, if team A wins the first 5-0, then ends the remaining two games with a 2-2 scoreline, they’ll have 5 points with 9 goals scored.

If team B wins the 3 with a 1-0 scoreline, they’ll have 9 points with 3 goals scored.

I’ll rather be team B than Team A.

How does Ozil help us become team B?

Un na naai

ChumpagneI challenge anyone to re-watch the first half of Bournemouth and say we weren’t excellent in our pressing for that 45 minutes. No honest observer will be able to say this, because we were excellent.

😂😂😂🤭🤭🤭

35 mins out of the whole season as his prime example of how great we are at pressing as a unit.
You don’t have green hair and a purple suit on do you joker?

Bamford10

Sal

That’s not true. There are lots of videos of “Peak Ozil” making the rounds on Twitter right now — all of him at Madrid, of course — and Emery would love that player. That player was energetic, full of running, a help in the center of midfield, electric. Emery would have loved that Ozil and he would have played him exactly where he is playing Ceballos today. The problem is that no one has seen that Ozil in seven or eight years; the one we have is a lifeless shell of that player.

raptora

We go back to square 1. I wonder how no top team wanted Ozil for couple of transfer windows now. Yes, his salary would have been a problem, but also Arsenal would have been okay to sell him for quite the bargain, so I could speculate that Arsenal would have accepted a pocket money bid in the range of £10-20m for Ozil. No bid ever happened. Surely the media would have known if there was something going on, and there wasn’t. There was noise that Arsenal want to move him on and the only story that we heard was for… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“I challenge anyone to re-watch the first half of Bournemouth and say we weren’t excellent in our pressing for that 45 minutes. No honest observer will be able to say this, because we were excellent.“ This is your stance in a nutshell, 45 mins against Bournemouth 45 odd games into a managers tenure and you give us an A for pressing and organisation. Only to then walk back the second half because there was absolutely none of the above. Xhaka being part of the “excellent press” first half and then reason why we didn’t press excellently second half is peak… Read more »

raptora

“Arsenal outcast Mesut Ozil puts £10m London mansion up for sale”

It’s “Sun” so I can only hope it’s a true story.

Valentin

Bamford, If you don’t have a solid midfield who can keep possession but you play with advanced fullbacks you have the perfect recipe for counter-attacks football. This exactly what happen when Bellerin was fit. Some of the fans who are now awaiting him and Tierney like the second coming of Cafu, and Roberto Carlos were the same who criticised him for being too forward. People who were arguing that Emery should sell him because Bellerin was clueless have now flip flopped that Emery’s vision can’t be truly understood and complete until both full back are back. The reality is that… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Azed Do you even know what point you were making? You claimed we score enough goals and I just pointed out were one of the lowest scorers of the top 6. We’ve also got the worst defence of the top 8 bar Chelsea, but at least they have a strike force somewhat resembling the output of the clear top two in the league, we don’t. *7 more goals they’ve scored than us in 8 games* Our chance creation is an obvious issue at present, Ozil is being speculated with that in mind alone. Really not sure what you’re struggling to… Read more »

Words on a Blog

On Ozil, as it seems we’re condemned to talk about him on here, here is my two pence’s worth. He is in decline, cannot press, can’t play against reasonable opponents away, and flits in and out of matches at home. Sure he can contribute to the “chances created” stat, but he is not necessarily the only way to create a chance, especially with the first choice full backs coming back. He is fragile: in the aftermath of the attempted robbery, the contrast between Kola, who has moved on and is getting on with things, and Ozil who is still traumatised,… Read more »

azed

CC

2018/18

Arsenal scored 73 conceded 51
Chelsea scored 63 conceded 39
Spurs scored 67 conceded 39

Please tell me which of those teams finished outside the top four.

Please tell me whic

azed

“Breaking down hypotheticals about sides winning 1-0 over and over is marvellous, but we have Emery at the wheel. If you’re being sincere there you’re nothing short of an clown completely ignoring what’s played out for over a year. Were no clean sheet machine. I think Emery has had 9 in 45 games and you want to present an idea that is scoring feebly is ok if we don’t concede. Baffling” I thought part of the reasons you wanted Emery out was because he couldn’t fix the defence? How does Emery solve that? We scored two against the Spuds and… Read more »

Sid

1.Arsenals problems CANNOT be reduced or solved by playing ozil.
2. Arsenals problems CAN be reduced or solved by not playing haka/AMN/kolasinac/papa

Emiratesstroller

Valentin and Pierre I don’t think that the decision to move on Ozil is entirely one made by Emery. I think that the attempted robbery earlier in the season will have impact on both Ozil and his new bride and my guess is that he has also made a decision to move on. Today there are reports that he has put his house in Highgate up for sale. My guess is that there have been discussions going on behind the scenes for him to move on to Turkey in January. Frankly there is no evidence that Ozil has been sulking… Read more »

Marc

Emirates

I can’t understand how so many don’t get that Emery does not run the club – he’s first team coach. Decisions will be made above him and he’ll be expected to tow the line.

It seems quite obvious that Sanllehi and Edu are looking at getting the wage bill in line and Ozil does not fit that.

Words on a Blog

Emirates,

I do think you’re probably right in thinking that, for both football and personal reasons, the club and the player have come to the conclusion that he should move on in January.

Hence he is not being played, but he is also silent on social media about his lack of playing time. In previous cases when he’d been dropped, this was not the case and he’d drop carefully crafted cryptic messages about his love for the club. This time: radio silence from Team Ozil.

Normski

Azed

‘Shots against, chances created, possession stats do not add a single point to the table.’

We’re talking about this season so stop referring to last season.

You’re deluded if you don’t think hemorrhaging shots and numerous chances on our goal at an all time high rate isnt a problem to our potential final league position.

The more chances you concede the more goals you will end up conceding is a pretty obvious correlation. Unless you don’t think this it true?

Marc

Words

Good point about Ozil’s social media presence being very quiet.

Champagne charlie

“Please tell me which of those teams finished outside the top four.“ The one with the smallest margin between goals scored and conceded. Arsenal scored 73 conceded 51 = 22 Chelsea scored 63 conceded 39 = 24 Spurs scored 67 conceded 39 = 28 You can go ahead and fixate entirely on the defence, but if we’d scored more last year we’d have made top 4. When you factor the squad we have, and the managerial approach, it’s safe to say we’re geared towards being an attacking side. The numbers don’t reflect that this season despite your claims, and as… Read more »

azed

“The more chances you concede the more goals you will end up conceding is a pretty obvious correlation. Unless you don’t think this it true?”

The question is how doesn’t Ozil solve this problem?
Wenger’s teams were the king of possession but that didn’t stop them from conceding so how does Ozil playing more help us not concede chances?

Luteo Guenreira

“Chumpagne” Lol Bamford feeling the banter today. All the Banfords and Cuntfords must have gotten to him. One half does not make a trend. Besides, Bournemouth played like absolutely pussies the entire first half, completely allowed Arsenal to do what they wanted with or without the ball. Soon as they starting playing with any kind of purpose the mirage of the good pressing was gone. Sounds like you’re getting ahead of yourself. It’s like all those times you thought that a girl may have liked you, but that look she gave you was just one of pity and she is… Read more »

Chitom

Posters bringing up the example of LeTissier to prove a point Ozil doesn’t have to bust a gut in training to keep his place in the squad must wake up to the fact this isn’t 1990s football anymore. Funny how Messi and Neymar found their way into the Ozil conversation too. All those upper 90s free kick goals must be a result of sheer talent and luck, and not countless hours of free kicks both Messi and Neymar spend taking. There’s more to hard training than just running and maybe Ozil isn’t doing any of it at the level required… Read more »

azed

CC

“You can go ahead and fixate entirely on the defence, but if we’d scored more last year we’d have made top 4. When you factor the squad we have, and the managerial approach, it’s safe to say we’re geared towards being an attacking side.”

We were the 3rd highest scoring team last year and didn’t make top 4 and the simple reason is because we conceded too many goals every other thing you are saying is just part of the “I must find something to blame Emery for”.

salpardisenyc

Bamford

Based on what?

Seems to fancy a pretty defensive mid field overall.

If you look back at Emery’s first choice mid fields on the bigger occasions, typically a combination of Krychowiak, Banega and N’zonzi in last season w/ Sevilla, first season w/ PSG Verratti, Krychowiak and Rabiot with Motta mixed in second Verratti, Rabiot and Matuidi with Motta mixed in.

Definitely a common thread running there, that thread continues w/Arsenal.

Champagne charlie

“We were the 3rd highest scoring team last year and didn’t make top 4 and the simple reason is because we conceded too many goals every other thing you are saying is just part of the “I must find something to blame Emery for”.“

For the attacking talent we possessed we didn’t score enough, what element of contextual debate escapes you time and time again?

This is peak ‘we made 7 points more than the previous season, so we’re obviously better’ coming to the fore once again.

Same pattern emerging this season.

azed

“For the attacking talent we possessed we didn’t score enough, what element of contextual debate escapes you time and time again?”

Iwobi, Mhkki, Aubameyang and Lacazette?

Like I said, we were the THIRD highest scoring team… How did we end up behind a team we scored 10 more goals than if scoring was the problem?

azed

I’ll repeat this again for emphasis we scored 10 more goals than Chelsea last season and CC thinks the reason why we didn’t finish in the top 4 is because we didn’t score enough goals..

What CC has failed to tell us is how two teams that scored less than us managed to make top 4.

Wengaball

The reason Özil doesn’t play is not because he does not train well, or because he performs poorly when he plays. The first is not important, and the second is not true. The reason he does not play is because Emery’s style is: 1) create from the flanks, not through the middle. 2) be more direct, lest intricate around the box. Combination play is not his cup of tea. The implications for Özil style players is clear. Forget defence, he does not even suit Emery’s attack. That does not make him a bad player. But Raaul or Emery cannot come… Read more »

Valentin

Chitom, “in what corporation ( since you brought this up) can an employee tell his immediate superior he’s shit and keep their job?” I did not brought that up, but I can tell you in every company where the the employee is the rain maker and the immediate superior job is to make sure that the employee continue to perform. Work in banking and listen to the exchange between traders on the floor. Same thing in merger and acquisition. The head of the department is just the official nanny or butler of the real players. Work in the music industry… Read more »

azed

For the records
Man UTD in 6th scored more than Chelsea in 3rd

Wolves in 7th scored less than teams that finished with 8th to 12th.

There’s used to be a popular saying “attack wins games defence wins championships ”

I guess whoever coined that must have been an idiot.

Wengaball

Our disjointed, no philosophy football and Özil not playing are totally interlinked. Two sides of the same coin.

Emery does not believe in either.

Özil can be the best no. 10 in the world. It will make no difference. Emery does not want a no. 10 like him.

Champagne charlie

“Iwobi, Mhkki, Aubameyang and Lacazette?“ Ozil and Ramsey defenders now? “Like I said, we were the THIRD highest scoring team… How did we end up behind a team we scored 10 more goals than if scoring was the problem?” I don’t know what to tell you here, you’re being incredibly black and white about something that simply can’t be seen in that manner. Not once have I said our attack was “the” problem, I said if we scored more we’d have finished top 4, I also said our defence was laughable. It’s you that’s trying to isolate it into one… Read more »

Un na naai

Azed No the question is can ozil contribute to us winning more games/points As champagne pointed out you’re trying to isolate the issue and centre it solely around the defence (a point which can be dismissed quite easily) So can ozil creat more chances for a a man with such a phenomenal conversion rate as Aubameyang? YES. Could this contribute to more points? YES Are his replacements doing enough to create chances and improve our defence? NO Does he improve our defence? NO Can the defensive structure of the team be improved to accommodate ozil? YES So then why aren’t… Read more »

azed

“Not once have I said our attack was “the” problem, I said if we scored more we’d have finished top 4, I also said our defence was laughable. It’s you that’s trying to isolate it into one marker and pile on, its much like the attitude some take to players on here.” CC I said we score enough to make top 4 because we have a top 4 attack but we concede far too much for a team aiming for the top but you want to beat Emery with the Ozil stick so you’d say anything no matter how ridiculous… Read more »

Valentin

Azed, CC exactly showed you that the reason why Arsenal is out of the top 4 is the goal difference. When we were leading 1-0 against bottom half club, Emery tried to play safe and it backfired. Had we scored a couple more goals in those draws and defeats against bottom half teams instead of playing safe, Arsenal would have reached top 4. This season we have a GD of +2. This is absolutely ridiculous. We have scored 12 goala, but conceded 11 times. Out of the top 10, only 3 teams have scored less than us (Crystal Palace 8,… Read more »