Jose Mourinh-oh-no

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Good morning my darlings, a very short post from me today because I have NOTHING to write about.

The hot news that has the comments section in a fluster is the story that Jose Mourinho has said NO to Lyon. Why? He wants a job in England.

Some are speculating he’s looking to sneak the Spurs job, I find this one tough to grapple with. Daniel Levy knows he has a great coach (that is clearly under fire), one that’s not dealt with dark times in his Scum career so far, so I’d imagine he’ll see it through with Poch.

Interesting thing with Spurs is they haven’t been a well-run club prior to Levy. If anything, Poch and the generation of elite talent they cultivated has been the happiest of accidents. I am going to watch with a fascinated eye to see what happens next, because based on historical evidence, they could go back to type after this generation withers and dies. Poch has created the impossible there, he’s crafted talent, he’s spent very little, and he’s kept players so motivated, money hasn’t been an issue. That’s coming to an end, the dream was a potless one.

Anyway… bring back Harry.

The second Jose conspiracy theory is that he’s waiting on Unai Emery to fail. Mustafi ramped up the pressure. As I said yesterday, the German defensive expert was on the path to a Balon D’or before Emery took over at Arsenal. The Spaniard crushed his spirit, forced Arsenal internet to take up arms against him, now Unai is left with blood on his hands.

Will the board tolerate this? Who knows…

I do think everyone has a feeling in their bones that Jose is waiting for the guillotine to drop. His agent is probably telling Edu that Jose is a top 4 machine, Edu probably has a top 4 bonus planned. The agent might even be slipping him a presentation… not a powerpoint, like Unai did… no, a Google Slides, because he is a modern businessman willing to create in the cloud… the same place he crafted his Arsenal vision.

I do not think this is a good long term option for Arsenal, but contrary to some of the shrieks I hear, Jose would be a good stop-gap… and any man that cries that he misses football is going to be more than happy to take on our incredible squad of players.

Also worth noting the press hype…

‘Jose was right about United after all’

Those stories are no accident.

Right, that’s my inflammatory post for the day, see YOU in the comments where I will battle you with all my will. xxx

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  1. Tony

    A 54 year old accountant leaves a letter for his wife one Friday evening 
that reads…

Dear Wife,
I am 54 and by the time you receive this letter I will be at the Grand
Hotel with my beautiful and sexy 18 year old secretary.”



    When he arrived at the hotel there was a letter waiting for him that read as 
follows…

Dear Husband,
I too am 54 and by the time you receive this letter I will be at the
Breakwater Hotel with my handsome and virile 18 year old boy toy.

    AND,
you, being an accountant, will appreciate that 18 goes into 54 many more 
times than 54 goes into 18.”



  2. Guns of Hackney

    I’m going out with a half Asian girl. Her mum is Thai and so is her dad. She had her legs ripped off in a car accident.

  3. Tony

    Q. What do you find in a clean nose?

    A. Fingerprints!

Q

    . Did you hear about the blind circumcicionist?

    A. He got the sack.



    Q. Did you hear about the gay guy that’s on the patch?

    A. He’s down to four butts a day.



    Q Did you hear about the kid napping?

    A. Yeah, he woke up!



    Q. Did you hear that the new and politically correct name for “lesbian”.

    A. It has been changed to “vagitarian”.



    Q. What’s the definition of “Tender Love?”

    A. Two gays with haemorrhoids.



    Q. Did you hear about the two poofters who went to London?

    A. They were REALLY pissed off when they found out Big Ben was a clock.



    Q. What does a poof and an ambulance have in common?

    A. They both get loaded from the rear and go whoo-whoo!



    Q. How can you tell if you are in a gay amusement park?

    A. They issue gerbils at the tunnel of love.



    Q. Did you know 70% of the gay population were born that way?

    A. The other 30% were sucked into it.



    Q. Hear about the new gay sitcom?

    A. “Leave it, it’s Beaver.”



    Q. Did you hear about the gay rabbit?

    A. He found a hare up his ass.



    Q. How can you tell if a novel is homosexual?

    A. The hero always gets his man in the end.



    Q. How can you tell if a Western is homosexual?

    A. All the good guys are hung.



    Q. Why can’t scientists find a cure for AIDS?

    A. They can’t get the laboratory mice to arse fuck.



    Q. Why did the gay man take two aspirin with his Viagra?

    A. So sex wouldn’t be such a pain in the arse.

    

Q. Did you hear about the two gay judges?

    A. They tried each other.



    Q. Did you hear about the gay truckers?

    A. They exchanged loads.



    Q. What do you call a gay bar with no bar stools?

    A. A fruit stand!



    Q. What’s the biggest crime committed by transvestites?

    A. Male fraud.



    Q. What’s the difference between a hamster and a cow?

    A. Cows survive the branding.


  4. Guns of Hackney

    Jose for a season would be hilarious but it won’t happen. Even Arsenal wouldn’t piss on Arsene’s legacy that way.

  5. Tony

    and finally:

    A man and his wife go to their honeymoon hotel for their 25th anniversary. 


    As the couple reflected on that magical evening 25 years ago, the wife asked 
the husband, “When you first saw my naked body in front of you, what was 
going through your mind?”



    The husband replied, “All I wanted to do was to fuck your brains out, and 
suck your tits dry.”



    Then, as the wife undressed, she asked, “What are you thinking now?”



    He replied, “It looks as if I did a pretty good job.”



  6. Un na naai

    Graham

    Yes was actually battered but I’d still quite happily do the IQ test with Freddie.
    Seems to think he’s better than me because of views on a football blog. Claims I’m stupid. Doesn’t have the balls to prove that he has the higher intellect.

    Just proving my point. All mouth and no trousers. These muppets do fuck all with their lives yet think they are superior

    Like we didn’t know what we voted for.

    Freddie is exactly that type. So let’s see how smart he really is. Let’s do an IQ test and he can Lord it over me.

  7. Bamford10

    “Raul Sanllehi backs Unai Emery decision to axe Mesut Ozil from Arsenal squad”
    Metro Sport Reporter

    Arsenal chief Raul Sanllehi has backed Unai Emery over his decision to axe Mesut Ozil from the Gunners’ recent squads amid rumours he could be sold in January.

    There have been reports that Ozil has failed to impress Emery in training, while the manager himself has made it clear that other players ‘deserve it more’ to be in the squad. Head of Football Sanllehi was at a fan’s forum event on Thursday evening and was asked about the current situation surrounding Ozil and his continued absence from both the starting XI and even the matchday squad. Speaking to supporters, he said: ‘Unai’s policy has always been to play the ones that work hard in training.’

    Sanllehi’s blunt response appeared to back up suggestions that Ozil has not been giving his all in training, while speculation is mounting that the 30-year-old will be offloaded when the window re-opens. Ozil’s work rate, both in training and matches, is troubling to Emery, but finding a buyer for a player on £350,000-a-week is set to prove a major stumbling block to any transfer.

    ___

    Just as I said. Ozil has been a prat in training; the club is moving on. Next subject.

  8. Pierre

    Bamford
    “Unai’s policy has always been to play the ones that work hard in training.’”

    Great policy..you all think xhaka is crap during the game at the weekend.
    And yet Emery and Raul agree that he should play because he works the hardest in training.

    Sounds like a flawed policy to me .

  9. Pierre

    Can now understand how and why Neymar and Emery didn’t see eye to eye…

    Imagine Emery at Barca , leaving Messi out of the squad because he doesn’t run around enough in training..

    Or is this a selective policy and only applies to players that Emery takes a dislike to.

  10. Receding Hairline

    Pierre how difficult is it to impress your coach in training considering the fact you have not actually been impressing anyone in football for quite sometime now?

    Do you believe Ozil simply works into the squad regardless of his input in training?

    If you were appointed as a Head in a corporate organization and one of the senior members of staff tells everyone he will outlast you and proceeds to put in little effort what will be your reaction to that?

  11. Receding Hairline

    “Can now understand how and why Neymar and Emery didn’t see eye to eye…”

    Yet to read any reports of a spectacular falling out with Neymar

    Neymar played 30 games under Unai Emery scoring 28 goals in 30 games until he broke his fifth metatarsal in February

    If Ozil had such impact in matches i bet effort in training will not be an issue

  12. Graham62

    Pierre

    You get what I’m on about.

    Whatever positives Ozil brought to the team no longer exist and, infact, haven’t for the past few seasons.

    Even under Arsene Wenger, he was becoming a massive liability. We all saw this and yet you seem to think that Emery has dealt with him unfairly and that, if he had accommodated Ozil, we would have done far better.
    I’m not so sure.

    Your incessant narrative for someone that clearly switched himself off from football and onto his games console instead, is boring and silly. His selfish attitude to change and adversity has become legendary.

    Isn’t it funny that those two people who you feel LG’s ridicule so much on here(Wenger and Ozil) are two individuals that dragged the club down over the years. Both, once, exceptional at their specific crafts but unfortunately who sunk into their own self-inflicted abyss.

    Also, and this point is key for me, Ozil has never genuinely wanted to be at the club. His heart has always been back at RM. Under Wenger he would switch himself on and off and would frequently go missing. Whereas Wenger protected him and allowed him to get away with murder, Emery pointed him out.

    Although I am now very much anti-Emery, in this particular case, he has my full support.

  13. Bamford10

    Can we move on, please? The club is. The player contributes little in matches, and he has contributed little in matches for years now. He’s also a prat in training. Why are we even talking about this player? The club is moving on; so should we.

  14. qna

    Jose Mourinh-oh-no. He wants a job in the EPL.

    This is only an oh-no if he gets our job. Otherwise bring it on. Like many, I was over the moon when he got the job at United. We knew that would throw a spanner in the works. Stopped that juggernaut from getting on a roll and leaving us for dust.

    Ideally he would bring Liverpool or City back to the pack, but that’s not going to happen. But happy days if he wastes a few years and a few hundred million pounds at Spurs. Worst case he stuffs up some other PL team (that is not us).

    So I say Jose Mourin-yes. (Just not Arsenal).

  15. Pierre

    Kristoman
    Of course, I never compared Messi to Ozil so does that make you a moron for coming out with a false statement ..

  16. Bamford10

    Raul Sanllehi: “We said to Unai that we just missed out on qualifying for the Champions League last year, but this year with a stronger squad, we expect you to do that.”

    So Sanllehi agreed with those of us who blamed the squad and not Emery for our not finishing top four last season. Reasonable guy.

  17. Bamford10

    Absolutely ‘no’ to Mourinho next season for a thousand reasons, but someone on Twitter just pointed out that he doesn’t bring younger players along. That’s important to our project, so add that to the long list of reasons why Mourinho would make no sense as next Arsenal manager.

  18. Bamford10

    Pierre

    No, it’s your reasoning that’s flawed. Xhaka shouldn’t play because he’s terrible in matches. That has nothing to do with demanding that players put their work in and have a good attitude in training. The latter is a necessary but not sufficient condition.

  19. HighburyLegend

    A big “no” to Maureen at Arsenal…

    I understand, but I can’t help to think of the kind of treatment Xhaka, Ozil and Mustardi would have get from him. lol

  20. Sid

    Pierre from Laputainville went to London to earn money…..After six months he wrote home:: I’ve set up business; sold 40 mattresses and 5,000 panties so far, and earned £50,000!

    His father saw the letter and replied:: You better close your shop and come home soon… Here your wife has made £100,000… with
    *one mattress and no panties*!

  21. Receding Hairline

    Neymar is “fed up” with Paris Saint-Germain manager Unai Emery, according to the latest reports emerging from the French capital.

    Le Parisien (h/t Sport English) cited a PSG source who revealed the Brazilian is unhappy he’s being treated as an ordinary player rather than a star, and the resolution of the incident involving himself and Edinson Cavani was “the final straw.”

    if this is what Pierre is encouraging and drawing parallels to Ozil with then that’s nonsense.

  22. Pierre

    RH
    “If you were appointed as a Head in a corporate organization and one of the senior members of staff tells everyone he will outlast you and proceeds to put in little effort what will be your reaction to that?”

    I will humour you for a little while because you will tie yourself in knots.

    For a start Ozil had never said anything remotely similar to that , but if I was in the situation where one member of staff was arse licking ( lets call him xhaka) and the other was not prepared to go against his principles (let’s call him ozil) , then I would look at which of those members of staff is .more beneficial to the corporation and s bringing in the most business …
    would it be the arse licker who apparently is bringing the company down or the one who sticks to his principles.

    Now let me think.

  23. Bojangles

    won the CL with an aged team over prime Barca, Madrid and Bayern teams while Jose himself danced around in disco houses all this time.

    Shit, he must have had a good assistant.

  24. Graham62

    There are prats in all walks of life.

    Neymar and Ozil fall into that special band.

    Hence you can compare the two.

    Pointing them out is the only solution.

  25. Normski

    Tony

    ‘Should be as hilarious as your defending a past-it Ozil’

    Almost as hilarious as you defending your life as a sex tourist in Thailand eh Tony?

  26. Un na naai

    Receding HairlineOctober 11, 2019 10:01:18
    what is a flawed policy? expecting output and effort from a footballer?

    Sorry what?
    What output is he getting from our current midfield?

  27. Valentin

    Sorry, but I am with Pierre on that one. It is a flawed policy. A good manager selects players on what they can bring in game, not just just how they behave in training.
    If only good trainers were selected to play, Le Tissier would never have played a single game for Southampton. Because of his knees, Lesley King could not train with Spurs yet was their captain and the first name of the teamsheets.

    Last season the Arsenal women team relied heavily on Vivianne Miedema to win the league. When asked who is the worst trainer in the squad every member of the squad named her. Their manager was clever enough to do what is good for the team rather than sticking rigidly to some sense of fairness.

    That pretend equalitarism play well with some fans, but everybody should know that it is a fallacy. The reality is that some players are more important than others. They have a bigger status. They are treated differently by the coaching staff.

    Does anybody really believe that Messi is treated the same way than a young kid starting at Barcelona.
    I am pretty sure that Martinelli runs more than Aubameyang both in training and close the opposition more during game, yet I doubt that Aubameyang would be dropped in favour of Martinelli.

  28. Graham62

    Ozil doesn’t need to say anything. He never has anyway.

    You can see by his general demeanor and body language how he truly feels.

    A total disgrace, even before Emery came on the scene.

    He’s using Emery as an excuse for his own failings.

  29. Pierre

    Un
    “Sorry what?
    What output is he getting from our current midfield”

    Apparently the output in training is tremendous.

  30. Graham62

    P and V

    Whereas you two have a clear perception of not only the game but life in general.

    What a wonderful couple you make.

    Congratulations!

    Give each other a hug and a kiss.

  31. kristoman

    Valentin
    you think messi goes to training and doesn’t put effort in it because he knows wether he tried or not he will be picked by the manager on match day just because he is best so no effort from him. you think that is how him and Ronaldo acheive greatness

  32. Valentin

    Yesterday I posted a link to a William Gallas interview in which he explains that some players such as Drogba were inducing panic attack into Philip Senderos.
    He also stated that Senderos was great during training. Of course he was great in training, he never had any panic attack before training. The reason why Swiss Tony is now playing in the MLS rather than in a big European club is because he was judged on his output during games rather than during training.

  33. Graham62

    Valentine

    Ah but with Ozil it’s different.

    He hardly ever delivers on match days.

    Crap in training, generally crap in the games.

  34. Pierre

    Anyone would think Ozil is going into training and decides to sit on the bench and have a fag and a cup of tee and waves to his team mates as they run a 100 times around the running track..

  35. Valentin

    Kristoman,

    Unfortunately for you, this is exactly one of the reason why Enrique had a fallout with Messi. He accused him of choosing his games and not putting enough effort in training.

    Guess which one is still at Barcelona? I am willing to bet that the Barcelona fan are pretty glad they still have him rather than Sergeant Major Enrique.

  36. Receding Hairline

    Ozil’s numbers attacking wise has declined year on year prior to Emery

    Ozil started avoiding difficult away grounds prior to Emery’s arrival

    I will understand all this nonsense if we are talking about a player putting up world class numbers year in year out being sidelined due to a personal issue with the coach, not a washed up professional gamer and semi-retired footballer whose options are DC United and Fenerbache

    Enough of this Ozil savior of the world and bringer of good football nonsense, some idiot even posted an away game against Barcelona during his time at Madrid to prove Ozil performed in big games, how stupid can one get .

  37. Valentin

    Graham62,

    I am not saying that Emery has to play Özil, just that the argument that he should not be selected because he did not train properly is flawed.
    When I prove to you via example that it is a flawed policy, you have no counter arguments, just petty name calling.
    You are the one who is therefore made to look stupid.

  38. Receding Hairline

    No Valentine you looked stupid when you started comparing players who carried their teams to Ozil, you even dragged in Messi.

    Ozil did nothing at home to Nottingham’s forest second string side, Ozil wilts the moment the opposition show they are willing to press him hence his habit of avoiding difficult or semi-difficult away games. Ozil has been a problem for AFC long before Emery turned up here and if Emery succeeds in humiliating him out of the club it will be one of his biggest accomplishments

    Ozil is no Neymar, Messi, KIng or Le Tissier, those men were winners who won games week in week out for their teams, this guy is only relevant because some fool thought “chance creation stats” was a good thing to keep.

  39. Valentin

    Kristoman,

    Another mischaracterisation of what I wrote.

    “A good manager selects players on what they can bring in game, NOT JUST just on how they behave in training.”

    Of course training is important. However that should not be the only criteria. The output during game should also factor in that decision.

    Right now against Bournemouth we created two chances (including one assists from a set pieces). Even a poor Özil would have created at least one more chance.
    We are now conceding more shots per 90 minutes than ANY team in the 5 major European league. So the argument that Özil does not track the opposition enough does not wash. What poor would our midfield have to be to track even less and let more shots?

  40. Valentin

    Receding,

    If you learned to read before commenting, you would have noticed that I was not the one who started comparing Özil with Neymar and others.

    But as usual you have no point to make, just petty unfounded attack.

    I am sorry, but against Forrest, Özil has a good game. He got an ovation when he was substituted. He kept the ball moving. With better finishing by Nelson, Saka and Martinelli he could have had 3 assists. According to you he had a bad game, maybe if you were to take you hate blinkers off , you would have noticed he topped the game with chances created.

  41. Receding Hairline

    ‘If you learned to read before commenting, you would have noticed that I was not the one who started comparing Özil with Neymar and others.””

    Yea you just added Le Tissier and Ledley king to the mix for good measure, i can read fine thanks and i can smell BS from afar too. You are mostly full of it.

  42. Receding Hairline

    Nor do i have any hate blinkers on

    I took a lot of abuse here for Ozil, Paulinho can attest to that, I hoped a change in manager might fire him up and the events during the World Cup with Germany, If anything he became worse. He was never a fighter or a leader and now he isn’t what the modern game needs.

    Fenerbache or DC United doesn’t scream world class player in his prime.

  43. Valentin

    Receding,

    Again, learn to read before commenting.

    I did not compare Özil the player to Le Tissier and Ledley King.
    I used their situation as an example to show that the argument of ONLY using training to select a player was a flawed policy.

    In logic to show that an argument is invalid, you only need to find a case in which the premises are true and the conclusion false. Which I did with both Le Tissier and Ledley King example.

    For somebody working in IT, you seem to be easily confused by basic logic.

  44. kristoman

    According VALETIN
    who needs effort in training when you could just walk into team and perform to your talent and abilities without putting effort in trainings. God where do they come from these

  45. Receding Hairline

    Valenti you are the one who needs to check up what logic means

    A player under performing on the pitch for a while now is being asked to train better, show his fitness and earn his place in the squad. If you weren’t a simpleton or agenda driven you will understand the situation for what it is as a whole and not just about effort in training.

    That you brought up King and Le Tissier, two players who put in less work in training due to injury concerns as proof that “effort in training” does not matter shows you are struggling with the topic in discussion as a whole.

  46. Cesc Appeal

    Fantastic news if we’re getting rid of the pussy in January.

    Seems we will be paying some of his wages but that was always going to be the case. He’s on about £250 000 a week too much.

    Speaks volumes that Fenerbahce is the only club seriously interested in him.

    His career is over and he’s been playing like it for a number of years.

    You see it all the time, people with skill and ability who ultimate just float around in an environment of comfort because they have no ambition, no drive, no work ethic, no spine.

    Even if we only manage to shift £8 Million a year of his wages (half) that is still something. You still free up £175 000 a week in wages for a year before his contract runs out.

  47. Un na naai

    Yea you just added Le Tissier and Ledley king to the mix for good measure, i can read fine thanks and i can smell BS from afar too. You are mostly full of it.

    Yeah, mostly coming from your seat

  48. Valentin

    Kristoman,

    You Are trying very hard to systematically misconstrued what I wrote.

    “Of course training is important. However that should not be the only criteria. The output during game should also factor in that decision.”

    Like I explained above, being a good trainer does not means that you are a good performer on the pitch. Because during game, decision have to be made in real time, and players need to adapt to what is happening in front of them. In training, you can reset and restart a move.

    Some players are great during training, but poor during game because they lack the adaptability, the grinta, the instant vision. On the other hand, some players are bad at training but great during games.

    A good manager should therefore make his selection based on ALL the information, NOT JUST the training. A bad trainer who is creating chances is still better than a good trainer who in game panicks and concedes penalties.

  49. Un na naai

    Rh

    Le Tiss didn’t train properly because he was lazy and well known for it. Another who’s football knowledge only stretches as far as 08

  50. Ustyno

    Ozil has been in decline for while now but Emery picking Xhaka isn’t helping anything too,you can say maybe Xhaka sluggishly fight for the team but for Ozil it’s a different thing entirely,he seems not bothered alot of time… Emery is the issue in all of these,if he is pruning the team of bad players then he should do with all, Mustafi and Ozil are push one side what happen to Xhaka.

    Am a big Ozil fan but not sure he will make different in the team again

  51. Valentin

    Receding,

    Another BS deflection from you now that you have been cornered.
    Le Tissier was not injured all his career. He was a lazy bad trainer who carried that reputation all his professional life. However come Saturday he was turning the skill on.
    I also noticed that you did not comment on Vivianne Miedema situation. Worst trainer in Arsenal women team, yet best player. How does that reconcile with your opinion. And no she does not carry an injury.

  52. kristoman

    RH
    it beggers belief that one can just show up in training, told to do some specifics but couldnt and expect to be automatic starter just because he has talent. My GOD

  53. Un na naai

    Ust

    Why not try? We are fucking atrocious going forward and have been all season cups aside.
    Ceballos has brought nothing to the table so far creatively so why not? He still has home games v bottom half sides to strut his stuff

  54. Receding Hairline

    “I also noticed that you did not comment on Vivianne Miedema situation. ”

    Because unlike you i do not have an opinion or know someone close to everything. I do not know her or anything about Arsenal women but i can guess Vivianne does not avoid difficult away games or end the season with three assists

  55. Ustyno

    Un na

    Like I said Emery is the issue,but Ozil isn’t helping himself when reports come out that he is not giving his all during training,even in matches he is gradually losing it,Ozil’s numbers are going down by the day.

    That said Emery needs pressing from the front with all the players involved even though am struggling to see any tangible press lately but with Ozil not doing enough during training can he be trusted with (non-existent) pressing from our over tinkering manager

  56. raptora

    “Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang has been voted the EPL Player of the Month after scoring in all of his September appearances for Arsenal.

    Aubameyang netted five goals in four matches to take his tally for the Premier League season to seven in his pursuit of back-to-back Golden Boots. ”

    Yet Guen was voted in our club’s monthly pool. Pure banter.

    Yes, Guendouzi rallied us in several occasions but as a whole Auba’s importance has been first grade. We should appreciate him more while we can and while he’s still in his prime.

  57. raptora

    Each one of his goals earned us points as well. That’s the most impressive thing. Not netting 3 in 1 game then not scoring at all in the next 3 games.

  58. Valentin

    Kristoman,

    Do I think that Messi does not put effort in training?
    I don’t, but Enrique the Barcelona coach seemed to think so…

  59. Receding Hairline

    One thing is for sure, Messi is just as phenomenal on the training ground as he is on the game day.

    Just ask former teammate Thierry Henry, who described what the Barcelona forward is like in training when he’s upset.

    “I have seen him doing stuff in training and it is just amazing. When he gets upset, he runs around the whole team. There is nothing you can do.” Henry said in an interview with Sky Sports.

    “When you have Leo Messi it is a big advantage. When you have that man in your side, anything can happen.”

    Henry then recalled a time when his teammate was fouled in training and didn’t receive a free-kick from his coach:

    “So when the ball went back to his goalkeeper, he (Messi) ran back and demanded the ball.

    “The goalkeeper rolled him the ball, and Messi then proceeded to run through the entire team and score in anger.”

    Sounds like a poor trainer

  60. Receding Hairline

    “But it was not all plain sailing. Messi and Enrique had clashed after a game against Celta when the Argentinean questioned his coach’s tactics and team selection and tensions blew up again after the defeat at Anoeta – Barcelona’s bogey ground – where Real Sociedad won 1-0. Messi had started the game on the bench with Munir in his usual position on the right and reportedly there was a heated exchange in the dressing room after the game with insults flying in both directions.

    When Enrique took charge of Barcelona in the summer of 2014, in his very first press conference, he sent a message to the players: “I am the leader of this team.” That apparently did not go down well with Messi and the former Camp Nou boss confirmed during an interview with Catalunya Ràdio that the final months of his debut season, however successful they would turn out to be, he and Messi did not see eye to eye.”

    Nothing to do with training it appears

    Although anyone who thinks Ozil is not making the team simply because he trains poorly should ring me, i have a field of Gold i am looking to sell.

  61. kristoman

    Look at Kante for example, he primarily and predorminately a ball winning midfielder but instructed to do a bit of attacking when he has the chance, not his best fonte but do well when he tries. even with all his talent this new aspect his gamd was developed by Sarri. He is not best at it but he does it when neccessary. That is what we asking of Ozil. Do a little bit of what is not your duting during a game. Is that too much to ask of player

  62. Pierre

    Back to le Tiss

    Ian Branfoot managed him for a short period of time ,hes in the Emery mould I would say.

    Benched le tiss regularly, left him out of the side for a period and le tiss totally embarrassed him with 2 of the greatest goals witnessed against Newcastle…pure class.

    Branfoot couldn’t even being himself to celebrate the goals , just looked embarrassed.

    Luckily for le tiss he did play under managers who respected his quality and this is when he played his best and most productive football .

  63. Un na naai

    Ust

    We don’t press anyway
    Pepe and Aubameyang are shite on the press

    So are xakha and Guendouzi

    Only a few of our players really press properly

    Ceballos, willock Martinellis and Saka

  64. S Asoa

    Valentin
    Have brought a football Club up from scratch to Professional League in 3 years , therefore can understand you. Like Pierre said, the perception is different as per exposure .
    Anyway thank you for the pearls. Some fell off into the trough though by the looks of it.

  65. Gentlebris

    Bamford quoting Raul on Ozil was very clever reasoning. So you actually expect the man to go against Emery in public on any issue whatsoever? Raul was saying clearly that Emery has been informed his services are no longer needed if he fails top 4. No wonder the clown went to OT and instructed the team to sit at the edge of our box. Emery is trying to play negative into top 4, only he doesn’t know how. Teams are taking shot at us for fun even during Emery’s supposed defensive football. And when he tried to attack at home against Bournemouth, we got two shots on target.

    By the time Emery is eventually fired here, a championship team would think twice before touching him.

  66. siddharth14

    Normski
    October 11, 2019 10:23:59

    Tony

    ‘Should be as hilarious as your defending a past-it Ozil’

    Almost as hilarious as you defending your life as a sex tourist in Thailand eh Tony?
    ———————————————-

    😂😂😂😂

    Some top banter going in here……

  67. Gentlebris

    I would love very much to see Ozil being left out of the team but I happen to be a realist. Right now we don’t play in a way that suggests we don’t need Ozil. Play Ozil with this new setup, let’s see what we get, if Ozil plays three games and we are actually playing poorer, then leave him out, realists would understand. But to just freeze out a guy with a huge reputation for creativity while we so much lack the same is a sad agenda. To support that as a fan is pathetic.

  68. Gentlebris

    ‘Some top banter going in here……’

    That’s no banter Sid, that’s just being a sadist. Tony should just ignore him

  69. raptora

    “Lacazette’s return would mean manager Unai Emery has a full squad to choose from against the newly-promoted Blades in just over a week’s time.”

    That’s pretty crazy if you think about it.

    Not sure when was the last time it happened. But if you can have our full squad for several months we should be able to get a good run going. Fingers crossed.

  70. Ustyno

    Un na

    Interestingly the players that are even trying to press according to what you post above are playing in Ozil’s position, Willock and Ceballos could that count for something?

    I know what pattern Emery is but like I said earlier Ozil isn’t helping himself

  71. azed

    We’ve scored 13 goals in 8 games while conceding 11.

    We have no problems scoring goals but we have a problem conceding and those advocating for Ozil have not told us how Ozil would help us in that regards.

    Ozil was an automatic starter for Wenger and we still conceded goals so that idea of keeping the ball is moot.

  72. Un na naai

    Ust

    He want his attacking midfielder to press their “Xakha”
    That’s why he deploys Torriera so high up the field

    Which would be fine if it works but it doesn’t. This silly plan of his doesn’t nullify the opposition clearly as even Bournemouth and Watford are getting at us
    So why persist?

  73. Normski

    Azed

    ‘Ozil was an automatic starter for Wenger and we still conceded goals so that idea of keeping the ball is moot.’

    I idea of keeping the ball is moot? LOL Seems you went to the same school as kristoman.

    I’ll break it down so it’s easy for you to take in.
    You will always concede goals in football.
    Wenger plays Ozil and we conceded goals whilst keeping the ball
    Emery doesnt play ozil and we concede goals without keeping the ball.
    BUT
    Without the ball we concede far more chances and shots on our goal per game but as long as Ozil doesnt play its ok.
    Idiot.

  74. Champagne charlie

    “We have no problems scoring goals“

    Well this is complete bollocks Azed isn’t it

    1. Liverpool have scored 20
    2. City have scored 27

    3. Arsenal have scored 13
    4. Leicester have scored 14
    5. Chelsea have scored 18

    Villa have even scored 13.

    We have Aubameyang remember, golden boot winner of last season. So the old “no problem” scoring adage is technically correct, we just quite clearly have a problem creating.

    Wonder why Mesut Ozil is being mooted…

  75. Marko

    Chelsea 27 on the season Arsenal 25 on the season. Not really an issue.

    Can’t believe Ozil is still being discussed given his decline and poor performances this season. Maybe when he isn’t playing under a more popular manager will it finally be put to bed.

    FYI he played 35 times last season on 2,500 odd mins and we still conceded 70+ goals so no didn’t keep the ball or whatever. And the previous season 35 games nearly 3,000 minutes on the season and still conceded 70+goals. Goals under both again one difference too. Don’t see anything that backs up how he’d improve us or how we miss him

  76. TR7

    All Mr. Unai bland Emery seems to be concerned about is running, running and running -be it in a match or in training. Someone needs to remind him he is a football manager, not an athletics manager. I am all for binning Ozil but not because he runs less than other players . He should be offloaded because he can’t be relied upon in tough away games, because he often drifts wide and looks to cross the ball rather than orchestrating the game through the middle but all this ‘running’ nonsense from Emery further deepens my belief that he has absolutely no clue how to manage a club the size of Arsenal. And yes there is absolutely no reason why Ozil should not play against the likes of Bournemouth at home especially when we fail to manage more than 2 shots on the goal.

  77. salparadisenyc

    Can’t argue with that, Raul has painted a pretty dire picture of Ozil there. Hard to see a future for Mesut with that being unleashed., our highest earner not turning up in training, some example.

  78. UTarse

    We do not score a lot of goals in the prem, we have yet to win convincingly. We also concede too many.

    Maybe now that we have a full strength fit squad, the players will start to click in spite of emery and his tactics rather than because of his tactics.

  79. Bamford10

    Gentle

    One, Emery works for Sanllehi, not the other way around. If the latter had any issue with Ozil being left out of the team, he would say so, subtly or not so subtly. He could’ve said, for example, “Ozil is an important player for us, and I assume he will return to the starting XI sometime soon.” He didn’t, and he didn’t because Ozil isn’t an important player for us, and because he trusts Emery, and because the club is over Ozil.

    As for your “we only managed two shots on target against Bournemouth” —- something you’ve now repeated several times — we had 12 shots against Bournemouth. City had 16 when they played them. Why more of our shots weren’t on target, I don’t know, but you are using the shots-on-target number to misrepresent the situation. We had only slightly fewer shots on goal than City did. That is no crisis. We also won, btw.

    Three, try Ozil in the XI? Why? He doesn’t fit with our approach — pressing, playing quick in transition, attacking down the wings — and he hasn’t been a highly productive player for years. On top of this, he’s being a prat in training.

    In truth, this whole conversation is meaningless. Ozil was finished at the top level some time ago. The only people who find this discussion meaningful are Ozil dead-enders and agenda-driven Emery-outers.

  80. Bamford10

    If we aren’t creating enough chances or scoring enough goals, this will surely improve with the addition of Tierney and Bellerin to the XI. This will give us good overlapping fullback play, good wide attacking play, and it should put this entire conversation to bed. Especially as our attacking players settle into their roles and gain more familiarity with the schema and with one another.

  81. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    With all due respect you continually claim we’re a good pressing side and are well organised, so allow posters to posit other such Arsenal-related issues like Ozil without your dictation that it’s not worth chewing over – that’s evidently not stopped you talking absolute waffle on other matters.

  82. salpardisenyc

    Peak Ozil would likely not play a pivotal role in an Emery mid field, he seems to value other attributes more.

  83. azed

    “I’ll break it down so it’s easy for you to take in.
    You will always concede goals in football.
    Wenger plays Ozil and we conceded goals whilst keeping the ball
    Emery doesnt play ozil and we concede goals without keeping the ball.
    BUT
    Without the ball we concede far more chances and shots on our goal per game but as long as Ozil doesnt play its ok.
    Idiot.”

    Wenger’s last season we conceded 51 goals
    Last season we conceded 51 goals

    Shots against, chances created, possession stats do not add a single point to the table.

  84. azed

    “1. Liverpool have scored 20
    2. City have scored 27”

    Thanks for proving my point CC

    Liverpool have scored less and have conceded less hence why they are top of the table.

  85. Bamford10

    Chumpagne

    I challenge anyone to re-watch the first half of Bournemouth and say we weren’t excellent in our pressing for that 45 minutes. No honest observer will be able to say this, because we were excellent.

    Why this fell off in the second, why we became so porous in the second, well, these are things for Emery to think about. He should begin by recognizing that the plodding, useless and error-prone Xhaka is a problem for us in the center of the pitch. He needs to be replaced with a quicker and more athletic central midfielder, ASAP.

    Beyond that, if we’re going to turn the press off in the second half, we should probably keep more possession of the ball.

    As for our being better organized now than we were under Wenger, well, this is obvious to anyone with eyes. Wenger left organization to the players themselves and the result was disorganization and slack organization game in and game out. Aside from former AKBs and unreasonable Emery-outers, no one could possibly watch Arsenal today and not see that we are more tightly organized than we were under Wenger.

  86. azed

    By the way CC

    If Villa had conceded less goals, they’ll be higher up the table.

    After 3 games, if team A wins the first 5-0, then ends the remaining two games with a 2-2 scoreline, they’ll have 5 points with 9 goals scored.

    If team B wins the 3 with a 1-0 scoreline, they’ll have 9 points with 3 goals scored.

    I’ll rather be team B than Team A.

    How does Ozil help us become team B?

  87. Un na naai

    ChumpagneI challenge anyone to re-watch the first half of Bournemouth and say we weren’t excellent in our pressing for that 45 minutes. No honest observer will be able to say this, because we were excellent.

    😂😂😂🤭🤭🤭

    35 mins out of the whole season as his prime example of how great we are at pressing as a unit.
    You don’t have green hair and a purple suit on do you joker?

  88. Bamford10

    Sal

    That’s not true. There are lots of videos of “Peak Ozil” making the rounds on Twitter right now — all of him at Madrid, of course — and Emery would love that player. That player was energetic, full of running, a help in the center of midfield, electric. Emery would have loved that Ozil and he would have played him exactly where he is playing Ceballos today. The problem is that no one has seen that Ozil in seven or eight years; the one we have is a lifeless shell of that player.

  89. raptora

    We go back to square 1.

    I wonder how no top team wanted Ozil for couple of transfer windows now. Yes, his salary would have been a problem, but also Arsenal would have been okay to sell him for quite the bargain, so I could speculate that Arsenal would have accepted a pocket money bid in the range of £10-20m for Ozil. No bid ever happened.

    Surely the media would have known if there was something going on, and there wasn’t. There was noise that Arsenal want to move him on and the only story that we heard was for the MLS club. It speaks volumes how not 1 single good club wanted to take him. Not 1. Juventus made Ramsey the 2nd highest earning player in Serie A only behind Cronaldo. Yet not 1 good team wanted to take Ozil.

    Now the news is for a loan move to Fenerbahce. DC United and Fenerbahce for our 30 yo elite player. Not sure if to laugh or to cry.

    The saddest of it all is that Ozil will keep declining the offers from these laughable teams, not because he is, like I read, “ready to fight for his place in Arsenal”, but because he is thoroughly happy to stink the place out as long as his bank account gets the salary in.

    The latest story how he is not working hard in training confirms what many of us already suspected.

  90. Champagne charlie

    “I challenge anyone to re-watch the first half of Bournemouth and say we weren’t excellent in our pressing for that 45 minutes. No honest observer will be able to say this, because we were excellent.“

    This is your stance in a nutshell, 45 mins against Bournemouth 45 odd games into a managers tenure and you give us an A for pressing and organisation. Only to then walk back the second half because there was absolutely none of the above.

    Xhaka being part of the “excellent press” first half and then reason why we didn’t press excellently second half is peak Banford. You talk nonsense of the highest order.

    “As for our being better organized now than we were under Wenger, well, this is obvious to anyone with eyes……….. Aside from former AKBs and unreasonable Emery-outers, no one could possibly watch Arsenal today and not see that we are more tightly organized than we were under Wenger.”

    Ohhh ok, so basically ‘either agree with what I say or I’ll label you an idiot of some description’. No actual basis for the claim, the performance markers indicating were not well organised at al can be dismissed as the oracle has spoken.

    You must utterly fawn over any mirror you catch a glimpse of. You’re the Trump of Arsenal football opinion, comically loud gobshite.

  91. Valentin

    Bamford,

    If you don’t have a solid midfield who can keep possession but you play with advanced fullbacks you have the perfect recipe for counter-attacks football. This exactly what happen when Bellerin was fit.

    Some of the fans who are now awaiting him and Tierney like the second coming of Cafu, and Roberto Carlos were the same who criticised him for being too forward.
    People who were arguing that Emery should sell him because Bellerin was clueless have now flip flopped that Emery’s vision can’t be truly understood and complete until both full back are back.
    The reality is that our midfield is poorly organised whoever plays. The only time we have had a decent midfield was when circumstances dictated the selection of players: Burnley, Domestic League Cup, Europa League.
    Emery claims to want to play pressing football, but then select players who can’t or won’t fit into that system.

  92. Champagne charlie

    Azed

    Do you even know what point you were making? You claimed we score enough goals and I just pointed out were one of the lowest scorers of the top 6.

    We’ve also got the worst defence of the top 8 bar Chelsea, but at least they have a strike force somewhat resembling the output of the clear top two in the league, we don’t.

    *7 more goals they’ve scored than us in 8 games*

    Our chance creation is an obvious issue at present, Ozil is being speculated with that in mind alone. Really not sure what you’re struggling to grasp there.

    Breaking down hypotheticals about sides winning 1-0 over and over is marvellous, but we have Emery at the wheel. If you’re being sincere there you’re nothing short of an clown completely ignoring what’s played out for over a year. Were no clean sheet machine. I think Emery has had 9 in 45 games and you want to present an idea that is scoring feebly is ok if we don’t concede. Baffling

  93. Words on a Blog

    On Ozil, as it seems we’re condemned to talk about him on here, here is my two pence’s worth.

    He is in decline, cannot press, can’t play against reasonable opponents away, and flits in and out of matches at home. Sure he can contribute to the “chances created” stat, but he is not necessarily the only way to create a chance, especially with the first choice full backs coming back.

    He is fragile: in the aftermath of the attempted robbery, the contrast between Kola, who has moved on and is getting on with things, and Ozil who is still traumatised, is telling.

    It is clear that Emery has the blessing of Raul and co not to play him, and not to select him for match day squads. Rightly or wrongly, it does look like the club just wants him out.

  94. azed

    CC

    2018/18

    Arsenal scored 73 conceded 51
    Chelsea scored 63 conceded 39
    Spurs scored 67 conceded 39

    Please tell me which of those teams finished outside the top four.

    Please tell me whic

  95. azed

    “Breaking down hypotheticals about sides winning 1-0 over and over is marvellous, but we have Emery at the wheel. If you’re being sincere there you’re nothing short of an clown completely ignoring what’s played out for over a year. Were no clean sheet machine. I think Emery has had 9 in 45 games and you want to present an idea that is scoring feebly is ok if we don’t concede. Baffling”

    I thought part of the reasons you wanted Emery out was because he couldn’t fix the defence?
    How does Emery solve that?
    We scored two against the Spuds and two at Watford but ended up drawing both games because we can’t defend.

    We currently score over a goal per game and also concede over a goal per game.. We should be reducing goals conceded and Ozil doesn’t help in that aspect.

  96. Sid

    1.Arsenals problems CANNOT be reduced or solved by playing ozil.
    2. Arsenals problems CAN be reduced or solved by not playing haka/AMN/kolasinac/papa

  97. Emiratesstroller

    Valentin and Pierre

    I don’t think that the decision to move on Ozil is entirely one made by Emery.

    I think that the attempted robbery earlier in the season will have impact on
    both Ozil and his new bride and my guess is that he has also made a decision to
    move on. Today there are reports that he has put his house in Highgate up for
    sale.

    My guess is that there have been discussions going on behind the scenes for him to move on to Turkey in January.

    Frankly there is no evidence that Ozil has been sulking or refusing to train properly.

    The most likely scenario is that the Head Coach has made a decision to focus
    on those players who are going to stay at the club.

    It is a sad end for this player but most probably the best outcome. The only question is how much it will COST us to offload him?

  98. Marc

    Emirates

    I can’t understand how so many don’t get that Emery does not run the club – he’s first team coach. Decisions will be made above him and he’ll be expected to tow the line.

    It seems quite obvious that Sanllehi and Edu are looking at getting the wage bill in line and Ozil does not fit that.

  99. Words on a Blog

    Emirates,

    I do think you’re probably right in thinking that, for both football and personal reasons, the club and the player have come to the conclusion that he should move on in January.

    Hence he is not being played, but he is also silent on social media about his lack of playing time. In previous cases when he’d been dropped, this was not the case and he’d drop carefully crafted cryptic messages about his love for the club. This time: radio silence from Team Ozil.

  100. Normski

    Azed

    ‘Shots against, chances created, possession stats do not add a single point to the table.’

    We’re talking about this season so stop referring to last season.

    You’re deluded if you don’t think hemorrhaging shots and numerous chances on our goal at an all time high rate isnt a problem to our potential final league position.

    The more chances you concede the more goals you will end up conceding is a pretty obvious correlation. Unless you don’t think this it true?

  101. Champagne charlie

    “Please tell me which of those teams finished outside the top four.“

    The one with the smallest margin between goals scored and conceded.

    Arsenal scored 73 conceded 51 = 22
    Chelsea scored 63 conceded 39 = 24
    Spurs scored 67 conceded 39 = 28

    You can go ahead and fixate entirely on the defence, but if we’d scored more last year we’d have made top 4. When you factor the squad we have, and the managerial approach, it’s safe to say we’re geared towards being an attacking side.

    The numbers don’t reflect that this season despite your claims, and as such you’re trying to isolate the issue as a defensive one purely to dismiss the relevance of Mesut Ozil as a point of discussion.

    Yes… my own view is that the defensive side of our game under Emery has been laughable, but it’s also true that the offensive output has been lean as fuck for the talent we have up top. Last season in our unbeaten run we were hyper clinical (ie most clinical side ever in PL history), this season you’re lauding 1 goal from 2 shots against Bournemouth for efficiency. We shouldn’t be reliant on such a thing as nice as it’s been to ride it.

    So, when all is said and done, ostracising players who might help toward a particular ailment of the side is a pretty dumb leadership tactic. Certainly does nothing for our on field fortunes.

  102. azed

    “The more chances you concede the more goals you will end up conceding is a pretty obvious correlation. Unless you don’t think this it true?”

    The question is how doesn’t Ozil solve this problem?
    Wenger’s teams were the king of possession but that didn’t stop them from conceding so how does Ozil playing more help us not concede chances?

  103. Luteo Guenreira

    “Chumpagne”

    Lol Bamford feeling the banter today. All the Banfords and Cuntfords must have gotten to him.

    One half does not make a trend. Besides, Bournemouth played like absolutely pussies the entire first half, completely allowed Arsenal to do what they wanted with or without the ball. Soon as they starting playing with any kind of purpose the mirage of the good pressing was gone.

    Sounds like you’re getting ahead of yourself. It’s like all those times you thought that a girl may have liked you, but that look she gave you was just one of pity and she is actually not remotely interested. Your life in a nutshell I’m assuming.

  104. Chitom

    Posters bringing up the example of LeTissier to prove a point Ozil doesn’t have to bust a gut in training to keep his place in the squad must wake up to the fact this isn’t 1990s football anymore.

    Funny how Messi and Neymar found their way into the Ozil conversation too.
    All those upper 90s free kick goals must be a result of sheer talent and luck, and not countless hours of free kicks both Messi and Neymar spend taking.

    There’s more to hard training than just running and maybe Ozil isn’t doing any of it at the level required in modern football.

    Here’s one argument Ozil fans have failed to rebuke though: how is it that the only club interested in his services is a mid table Fenerbahce even though it is patently obvious Arsenal are willing to pay part of his salary.

    Sanchez is on 500k per week ( by some accounts) and yet Inter and Conte, who’s as demanding a coach as you’ll ever find, still wanted him.

    And this for Pierre and Valentin:
    in what corporation ( since you brought this up) can an employee tell his immediate superior he’s shit and keep their job?

  105. azed

    CC

    “You can go ahead and fixate entirely on the defence, but if we’d scored more last year we’d have made top 4. When you factor the squad we have, and the managerial approach, it’s safe to say we’re geared towards being an attacking side.”

    We were the 3rd highest scoring team last year and didn’t make top 4 and the simple reason is because we conceded too many goals every other thing you are saying is just part of the “I must find something to blame Emery for”.

  106. salpardisenyc

    Bamford

    Based on what?

    Seems to fancy a pretty defensive mid field overall.

    If you look back at Emery’s first choice mid fields on the bigger occasions, typically a combination of Krychowiak, Banega and N’zonzi in last season w/ Sevilla, first season w/ PSG Verratti, Krychowiak and Rabiot with Motta mixed in second Verratti, Rabiot and Matuidi with Motta mixed in.

    Definitely a common thread running there, that thread continues w/Arsenal.

  107. Champagne charlie

    “We were the 3rd highest scoring team last year and didn’t make top 4 and the simple reason is because we conceded too many goals every other thing you are saying is just part of the “I must find something to blame Emery for”.“

    For the attacking talent we possessed we didn’t score enough, what element of contextual debate escapes you time and time again?

    This is peak ‘we made 7 points more than the previous season, so we’re obviously better’ coming to the fore once again.

    Same pattern emerging this season.

  108. azed

    “For the attacking talent we possessed we didn’t score enough, what element of contextual debate escapes you time and time again?”

    Iwobi, Mhkki, Aubameyang and Lacazette?

    Like I said, we were the THIRD highest scoring team… How did we end up behind a team we scored 10 more goals than if scoring was the problem?

  109. azed

    I’ll repeat this again for emphasis we scored 10 more goals than Chelsea last season and CC thinks the reason why we didn’t finish in the top 4 is because we didn’t score enough goals..

    What CC has failed to tell us is how two teams that scored less than us managed to make top 4.

  110. Wengaball

    The reason Özil doesn’t play is not because he does not train well, or because he performs poorly when he plays.

    The first is not important, and the second is not true.

    The reason he does not play is because Emery’s style is:
    1) create from the flanks, not through the middle.
    2) be more direct, lest intricate around the box. Combination play is not his cup of tea.

    The implications for Özil style players is clear. Forget defence, he does not even suit Emery’s attack.

    That does not make him a bad player. But Raaul or Emery cannot come out and say Özil does not play because we do not believe in fluid creative football, can they?
    So they use poor trainer as an excuse.

    There is another implication here – you can forget fluid football from an Emery team. He is not even trying for it. Probably does not believe in it.

  111. Valentin

    Chitom,

    “in what corporation ( since you brought this up) can an employee tell his immediate superior he’s shit and keep their job?”

    I did not brought that up, but I can tell you in every company where the the employee is the rain maker and the immediate superior job is to make sure that the employee continue to perform.

    Work in banking and listen to the exchange between traders on the floor. Same thing in merger and acquisition. The head of the department is just the official nanny or butler of the real players.

    Work in the music industry where the artists can tell their producers to F** off. In Music, film, publishing industries producers, directors, editors can lose their job because of the tantrum of a spoilt artists.

    I could cite numerous other examples. That does not mean that the manager will not exert his vengeance any other way. That does not mean that it is normal, but if you footballer autobiography you’ll find it is a lot more current than you think.

  112. azed

    For the records
    Man UTD in 6th scored more than Chelsea in 3rd

    Wolves in 7th scored less than teams that finished with 8th to 12th.

    There’s used to be a popular saying “attack wins games defence wins championships ”

    I guess whoever coined that must have been an idiot.

  113. Wengaball

    Our disjointed, no philosophy football and Özil not playing are totally interlinked. Two sides of the same coin.

    Emery does not believe in either.

    Özil can be the best no. 10 in the world. It will make no difference. Emery does not want a no. 10 like him.

  114. Champagne charlie

    “Iwobi, Mhkki, Aubameyang and Lacazette?“

    Ozil and Ramsey defenders now?

    “Like I said, we were the THIRD highest scoring team… How did we end up behind a team we scored 10 more goals than if scoring was the problem?”

    I don’t know what to tell you here, you’re being incredibly black and white about something that simply can’t be seen in that manner.

    Not once have I said our attack was “the” problem, I said if we scored more we’d have finished top 4, I also said our defence was laughable. It’s you that’s trying to isolate it into one marker and pile on, its much like the attitude some take to players on here.

    That ‘third highest scorers’ line is really sending the blood south for you, but allow me suggest that there being a gap of 26 goals from 3rd highest to 2nd highest is starkly different than the gap from 3rd highest to 4th highest which was….6 goals.

    Context Azed. Your posts are unbelievably absent of the stuff time and again.

  115. Un na naai

    Azed

    No the question is can ozil contribute to us winning more games/points

    As champagne pointed out you’re trying to isolate the issue and centre it solely around the defence (a point which can be dismissed quite easily)

    So can ozil creat more chances for a a man with such a phenomenal conversion rate as Aubameyang? YES.

    Could this contribute to more points? YES

    Are his replacements doing enough to create chances and improve our defence? NO

    Does he improve our defence? NO

    Can the defensive structure of the team be improved to accommodate ozil? YES

    So then why aren’t we using him more?
    Nobody is advocating starting him on tough away games but he should be at the very least being played against the Watfords and such. Two points lost there already.

  116. azed

    “Not once have I said our attack was “the” problem, I said if we scored more we’d have finished top 4, I also said our defence was laughable. It’s you that’s trying to isolate it into one marker and pile on, its much like the attitude some take to players on here.”

    CC

    I said we score enough to make top 4 because we have a top 4 attack but we concede far too much for a team aiming for the top but you want to beat Emery with the Ozil stick so you’d say anything no matter how ridiculous it.

    Do we score enough to make top 4?
    Do we defend well to make top 4?

    Those are the two important questions.

  117. Valentin

    Azed,

    CC exactly showed you that the reason why Arsenal is out of the top 4 is the goal difference. When we were leading 1-0 against bottom half club, Emery tried to play safe and it backfired. Had we scored a couple more goals in those draws and defeats against bottom half teams instead of playing safe, Arsenal would have reached top 4.
    This season we have a GD of +2. This is absolutely ridiculous. We have scored 12 goala, but conceded 11 times. Out of the top 10, only 3 teams have scored less than us (Crystal Palace 8, Burnley 11, West Ham 11), but only 3 have conceded more than us (Chelsea 14, Bournemouth 13, Spurs 12).

    Basically we are poor in attack and poor in defense. Our current position is a mirage like the unbeaten run was last season.