‘Move bitch, get off the plane, get off the plane bitch, get off the plane’
Was humming this as an old lady struggled to pull her heavy bag out of the overhead bin. Total nightmare wait, but I was amused by the internal soundtrack to the debacle.
You know what else amuses me? Watching Arsenal fans online. What a bunch of weirdos.
I love that after 10 years of mostly arguing over a single topic, we now create our own weekly subgroups of fandoms and anti-fandoms to get our fix of viciously polarised debate.
PEPE IS GREAT BELIEVE IN THE PROCESS vs PEPE IS GERVINHO WITH BETTER HAIR, the latest great issue polluting the websites.
Am I above this charade? Absolutely not.
I find it staggering that anyone is writing him off after 7 games. Dennis Bergkamp, our greatest ever big name signing was so bad, Alan Sugar claimed he wouldn’t wash his car with his shirt and he was a waste of money (did I make up the car washing thing?).
Thierry Henry had a shaky start to his career until he fizzed a screamer from 22 yards out at The Den. Freddie Ljungberg scored on his debut against United, but be honest, he was a mess in front of goal for at least a year. Then he found magic with the maturing Dutchman mentioned above. Even Bobby Pires, an absolute dream of a player, looked well off the pace during his maiden season. He was weak, he was unsuited to the league and it was tough to work out how a 6ft+ winger was going to adapt. I remember Wenger saying he’d be like Zidane and laughing to myself very quietly (AKBs were like Corbynistas on 2019 Twitter back in the day).
Pepe, or Pete as Sky fondly nicknamed him, is 24 years old, he’s come over from a slower league, and he’s trying to adjust to a new culture and language. It is rare that a talented player settles into a bad system immediately. I do not think we have to worry just yet. He’ll find his magic eventually.
The other thing I’ve noticed that is mildly amusing is reading the safe people of the Arsenal internet present concern about Emery as a risky opinion.‘You know what, I’m going to say it, something ain’t quite right about Unai’
Well I’ll be damned. Folk that took until late 2017 to determine Wenger might not make the much promised come back to the top, have sussed the new coach might not be up to snuff and they want to project it like a first to market notion.
So many of the people we lean on in the Arsenal community for sound direction on the club are almost always entirely off base, but because they deliver a bad narrative with ‘balance,’ they’re passed off as must-read intellects that know their stuff. I call it right and even my own friends don’t let me round their houses for prematch beers. It’s a disgusting injustice.
I guess yah just have to live with it.
Someone is going to write a highly intellectualised book about Arsenal internet one day and it’ll sell bundles. When you sit down with people and talk it through, it is actually weirdly fascinating. Remember QOS in the comments here? Told people on ACLF that I was phoning her home and abusing her kids? Remember the cucks feigning concern because they were talking to an actual woman? Her husband added me on LinkedIn! Turned owut it was a man with an online alter ego (his wife’s). That’s epic. Simply magnificent. Still not sure whose kids I was talking to.
Just kidding. I knew whose kids they were.
How about Arsene Wenger? Picking up an award I’ve never heard of. Begging for a job on LinkedBeIN.com. Complaining that people had expectations of him.
“Every year people want something more from you. I experienced that at Arsenal. We were twenty consecutive years in the top four but in the end it was not enough anymore. Today if you get into the Champions League people are very happy.”
It’s sad to read. A man who was earning £190k a week, complaining about expectations. I think he’s holding out for a major job, but no one is biting. The oligarchs and sheikhs have wised up and despite his prestige as a man, he really sullied his football rep by clinging to power like a deluded despot. He should have quit in 2008, taken a New York sabbatical, toured around some modern clubs, taken notes, then rebirthed at a big club when he had some of that 2004 sheen about him.
Knowing when to exit is one of the finest qualities a man can possess.
On that fine note, I’m tapping tf out.
Why don’t we reminisce about the weirdos of Arsenal Internet today?
p.s. Listen to my solo podcast you scoundrel!
“Then in waddles ‘Mr. 20 years to choose a team’ dismissing ‘Mr. 20 years manager of Arsenal”
Ha! To be honest if I had any choice in the matter I don’t think I would have picked Arsenal!!
Bob N16 (from previous post)
So by saying I’m fed up with these Climate Change activists and I voted to leave Europe, I’m considered far right.
Pretty dumb don’t you think?
That’s a nice write up from 7am. Full of stats, the 2014/15 Sevilla similarities are concerning. I think quite a few of us said a while ago that nobody is wedded to Emery, and that if he does a ‘Houllier’ and gets top four for the next guy (Benitez) it would be time to say thanks but best of luck with your next job. I think Edu and Raul are seeing this, success may not be simply tolerated if it is built on a house of cards. I don’t think Emery is going to do anything so drastic to lose… Read more »
Chris
I don’t think Sanllehi and Edu are looking at 4th as the ultimate target. I believe they are looking for continued improvement and development. Most balanced fans don’t think Emery was ever brought in to be a long term manager (5 years plus) but to be a safe pair of hands whilst the club restructured.
My personal opinion is that the restructuring is happening quicker than I thought it would if Emery can’t keep pace he’ll be gone in the summer.
Bamford
I think rewatching some of Pepe’s bits at Arsenal on YT may make you change your mind.
He gave Robertson and VVD a run for their money. He completely destoyed the Ben Mee of Burnley. zon Sunday he nearly completed a 3 v 1 against Bournemouth on the flank only for the ball to get stuck to his trailing leg. He nearly won a pen. I think he is probably one of the best dribblers in the league rn. Also only Zaha has completed more take-ons this season i think.
Marc
Oh I agree completely, my post was quite poorly written. My thinking is also that Edu and Raul are seeing the performances and whilst acknowledging that we are 3rd in the table, are smart enough to know it may not be sustainable. To that end they are possibly shortlisting other coaches potentially for the summer. With these two guys I am very confident 4th place isn’t the limit of the sky in their eyes. Merely a stepping stone to greater things. Much like Emery in a way!
Graham62October 8, 2019 13:29:03
Bob N16 (from previous post)So by saying I’m fed up with these Climate Change activists and I voted to leave Europe, I’m considered far right.Pretty dumb don’t you think?
You knuckle dragging bigot
Easy wasi
Dont go against the grain. It’s not safe.
Seriously though he’s showing better form at this stage than DB10, Pires, Freddie and many others. Henry was showing good form in his first 20 games he just couldn’t hit the net.
3 assist already and he’s barley seen the ball and hardly got out of first gear
After Xmas and once Lacazette comes back I expect him to set a fire in the league. Unless emery continues to want to oaky the game in our own penalty box
Probably Pepe needs to release the ball a little quicker, beat a player and then play a give and go . At the moment he’s having that extra touch and getting caught in possession. Someone mentioned that he could do with a little support from midfield as he is too isolated , I tend to agree . You just know that if Ozil was reinstated to the side he would build a similar relationship he had with Sanchez. Pepe wouldn’t be starved of the ball as ozil has the intelligence to know how a wide player likes to receive the… Read more »
Mane showed during his 2 seasons at Southampton that he was a very good player (double figure PL goals each season), obviously he’s kicked on a few more gears since he’s joined Liverpool. I hope that Pepe is just finding the adjustment hard but he’s been shocking so far, nearly all aspects of his game from his shooting to his dribbling to his passing. On paper he should have been a much easier transition to the PL than most foreign players but he’s been grade A turd. Way too early to be making any damning assertions but the jury is… Read more »
Pierre
Mate you need to let it go – Ozil’s gone in January the chances of Ozil and Pepe stepping foot on the same pitch outside of training are infinitesimal, unless of course they play against each other in a pre season friendly next summer.
We’re so close to seeing the back of Mustafi and Ozil we just need to add Xhaka to the list.
Pepe -> zeppelin is an awesome autocorrect lol
Who takes on Ozil in January?
Guy is on 350k a week.
Pepe has started off the pace – but he’s hardly the first very talented player to arrive in the PL and not hit the ground running What matters is that he, the manager and the team take every step possible to overcome his challenges. Like he needs to learn English sharpish. He can’t commujicate with his team mates and it’s clearly an issue. If he’d joined circa 2004 he’d have been all set with the huge French contingent to help him adjust but nowadays we just have a few French speakers He does need to get sharper though as him… Read more »
WE
He’s going to the US – with us subsidizing some of his wages.
China
People also forget that he had a limited pre season due to the ACN.
Marc
Galaxy?
Music to ears if legit. Confirms any lingering suspicion anyone had about him that he couldn’t be bothered with competitive football post 2016.
I’m not sure how anyone makes resolute claims about a player after 6 matches, there’s countless historical evidence dispelling that as a sample to bow down to.
Different to managers, who typically start with a bit of verve an continue that along. Rarely see a manager flounder to greatness, certainly happens, but much rarer than a player being pony until Xmas before coming into his own.
Pepe needs a bit of a break cut.
WE
Didn’t his “people” meet up with representatives from Washington a little while ago?
I think the attack might have helped push him along as well.
Gervinho wasn’t as laughable as people make out to be fair.
He was very good for Lille in France, had a mixed first season with us with some memorable games like Chelsea at SB.
Had a very decent spell at Roma, went to China for some $ and came back to Italy for Parma where he’s been pretty good.
Was pretty crap for us but he’s had a respectable career abroad, Ivory Coast NT too he’s scored some top goals.
Certainly doesn’t deserve to be tossed in with the Chamakh/Park/Silvester/Squillaci/Santos’ of this world.
Valid point Charles, look at Firmino and Fabinho for Liverpool in their first half of their debut seasons.
Now central to the spine of Europe’s best team.
Un ” Unless emery continues to want to oaky the game in our own penalty box” Once we have Tierney, Bellerin, Holding and Luiz as our back 4, I still prefer we try to play out from the back. I counted all the long balls from Leon in last game. Every ball that came to Auba, he never made any effort to challenge for the ball. On the other hand, for the few times that Martinelli was on the pitch, he would jump for a 50/50 ball. Of course, there is some danger playing out from the back. I still… Read more »
Marc
Rooney’s club is it?
It’s a joke league. Carlos Vela as much as I have always liked him is literally Lionel Messi over there and he wasn’t even a top 100 player in Europe.
Zlatan literally scores whenever he feels like it at 38.
Be interesting to see if the sulky Ozil does over there, he should even now be owning games at will as it’s little more than a retirement league.
Marc, no need to let it go as I know that whilst Emery is at the club, Ozil won’t get a look in. … Actually, quite a few posters in the past week have recognised that we are lacking in creativity and believe Ozil is the missing link . You know and saw the on field relationship that Ozil had with Sanchez was superb. And it’s not difficult to fathom that Ozil could build a similar relationship with Pepe , given the chance . Of course it wont happen as we have a manager who is more interested in himself… Read more »
And you sometimes get the opposite.
Can’t remember any signing in my time supporting this club that made the immediate impact that Arshavin did in 09′.
Gradually his performances went downhill but he gave us a host of great moments from 2009-2011.
Pierre
You’re clinging onto the hope that it’s Emery calling the shots he’s not. Sanllehi and Edu have decided to get him off the wage bill and out of the club in any way possible.
It doesn’t matter if Emery goes in the summer or next week Ozil is finished at the club he can’t even finish a walk over match verses lower league opposition.
Ozil is finished at Arsenal and he’s finished in any other senior league.
Arshavin was so special man.
Would have a spot in any Wenger team imo talent wise, in the 1998 team or in the Invincibles. Maybe the best winger/wide forward we’ve had behind only Pires. Such a livewire and unpredictable. Had everything in his locker as well. Closest thing to Bergkamp passing with pace and technique. Quality finisher as well.
So mad at Wenger for not pulling his strings properly. We could have extracted many more performances from one of the most talented players we’ve ever had.
Wenger’s style of play is the reason we ended up in such a mess.
Emery will slowly transform Arsenal with a style alien to Wenger namely TACTICS….
It’s sad to read. A man who was earning £190k a week, complaining about expectations
Careful the usual types won’t like that it sounds a bit like a negative comment about Wenger
Our away form during Wenger’s final season with Ozil playing a leading role: Only winning four away games in the league all season with 11 defeats, and were until the final game of the season the only team in England’s top 4 divisions to not get a point away from home in the year 2018. A total of 13 defeats were recorded throughout the league campaign, the highest since the 1994–95 season, which resulted in a 6th place finish. Furthermore a shock 4–2 defeat at Nottingham Forest meant that Arsenal were knocked out of the FA Cup third round for… Read more »
Pierre
I think the board is finally taking side with Emery. They will probably decide to pay part of Ozil’s wages to loan him out in January. The ball is in Ozil’s court. He can just ignore it. If Ozil is smart, he could put up a list of teams he is willing to join for the reminding few months of this season. He could select Manure as his first choice. Let’s see how this sage will play out.
China1,
You may have a pet hate for Gervinho, but he was far from a bad player. He also has had a much better career than Pepe.
Gervinho won the league with Lille, scoring 15 goals none penalty in the league. Pepe won second place with Lille scoring 22 goals including 10 penalty in the league.
Gervinho won the 2015 AFCON with Cote d’Ivoire. Pepe was part of the Cote d’Ivoire squad that lost in the quarter of final after losing his starting place due to rank performance.
Watch a video on Luis Campos on needing a Sporting Director is essential for a club to succeed.
Good watch
Valentin
Pépé was named in Michel Dussuyer’s 23-man squad for the 2017 Africa Cup of Nations in Gabon, but took no part as the Elephants were eliminated from their group.
They would of qualified from group had they played him.
https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/arsenal-ivan-gazidis-ac-milan-17049414
Not content with destroying Arsenal… Gazidas has turned his hand to gutting AC Milan…
What a one man walking disaster area he is.
The Mr. Magoo of Football CEOs…. to think he was let loose at Arsenal for so long.
To put the Pepe conversation into some context he has 1 goal 3 assists in 10 appearences 600 odd mins this season. Hazard has 1 goal 1 assist in 6 appearences 400 odd mins. Griezmann has 3 goals 2 assists in 9 appearences nearly 800 mins on the season. Obviously scenarios aren’t the same but that’s more of a contribution to goals than Hazard and one less than Griezmann and no one’s making ridiculous proclamations of how bad they are already are they. Again another example of expectations over reality for certain people in the Arsenal fanbase. Considering we’re a… Read more »
Leeds
Imagine being me and finally being rid of Gazidis as an Arsenal fan and then having to deal with him over here as a Milanista….. We do need a new manager here too as Giampaolo is absolutely shit
Gervinho was never that bad but I think part of it is he’s being held up against Hazard and how we could have signed him instead and rightly or wrongly people blame him for that
Marko
Arsenal fans are known to be the most notorious knee jerk fanbase in England especially with regards new players or youth players
Here’s a hypothetical question:
Let’s say the club have arranged to have either a top manager to replace Emery OR a top creative midfielder to replace Özil but you can only have one…. who would you let go to bring in?
Özil or Emery?
If it was up to me I say Emery.
Redtruth,
Nice wikipedia quote. Valentin meant the 2019 AFCON, where Pepe certainly played but not in the quarters where they lost. He played in the game before until the 68th min, but in their last game on the tournament vs Algeria where they eventually lost after penalty shootout, Pepe didn’t get to play although his coach made 4 substitutes in that game.
Batistuta
Mate… my most sincere sympathies! I mean it, that’s seriously unfortunate!
Gervinho was piss poor
Another Marko comment about Wenger, too busy claiming others enamoured by him to figure out he’s on the front line of his every mention.
Careful indeed Pedro, might give Marko the opportunity to slide in and claim others obsessed with big Weng. Pot, kettle and all that given he’s a sock devoted to conversation about the man.
Bamford: “As for what Wenger has to say, no one’s opinion could matter less.“
Really distasteful comment.
How can a player be blamed “rightly or wrongly” for idiotic fans holding a player up against another that wasn’t signed?
Epitome of special that. There’s no rightly or wrongly in it, if you gave Gervinho grief for not being Hazard then you belong on the sunshine bus.
Let’s say the club have arranged to have either a top manager to replace Emery OR a top creative midfielder to replace Özil but you can only have one…. who would you let go to bring in? In what context we talking new deal or what? Cause technically speaking you can replace Emery and be left with one more season of Ozil. But if it’s a new deal for one or the other I’d go with Emery because I dispise how utterly useless Ozil is as a footballer and have for going on 3/4 seasons now No surprising you’d stick… Read more »
Bati
Why did Milan sack Gattuso? I know Pep he ain’t but he had Milan playing some decent stuff last season, only narrowly misses out on CL.
This new bloke is clueless. They look shocking, Fiorentina absolutely battered them black and blue at the San Siro and they’re a struggling team themselves (only won 1 match in their previous 17 Serie A games and that was at bottom of table Sampdoria).
Some decent parts to work with in Leao, Paqueta, Romanogli, Piatek, Hernandez, Donnarumma, Rebic but they’re a bloated mess of a roster for any new gaffer.
Charles it’s really weird how literally no one can make a comment about Wenger without getting a response from you. I know he’s the absentee father you always wanted but he’s really nothing to you. You can let some go you know
Although I’m not a fan of ole Arsene, he said something about Pepe’s off the ball movement which I mentioned the other day: “I see some characteristics of his game, especially off the ball, that don’t happen at the moment.” If he can become more aggressive off the ball, it will put less pressure on him being expected to bamboozle with the ball every time he gets it, and it will help him take the shackles off. As we’ve seen with Rashford though, to a large extent you’ve either got mentality or you haven’t, so whether Pepe can add that… Read more »
Hamford must have gotten himself a self-esteem boost somewhere over the last couple weeks, he’s back to talking like a cunt more often than not again. Think we’ve been through this cycle before, next steps are foot in mouth in some kind of fashion, a self imposed exile, then an ignominious return, followed by a few weeks of measured contrition…then back to cunt talk and foot in mouth.
At the risk of a response from Charles I have to ask Bati how would you feel if Ivan wanted to get the band back together and hire Wenger for Milan? Personally part of me thinks it would be side splitting but the other part of me doesn’t want to see a once great team relegated.
RedTruth, My wife is from Cote d’Ivoire and follows every single one of their tournament pretty religiously. In 2017, nobody was praying for Pepe to be given minutes. He was languishing at Angers. It was a huge surprise when Lille went after him. In 2019 after his extraordinary season at Lille, he was expected to be one of the leaders of the squad and he disappointed. Some of the article he received back home were vicious about his level of performance. The coach had to publicly defend him while at the same time bench him. So Pepe has time on… Read more »
Eagle
It’s the conundrum of beautiful football man, fans here wanted free flowing football even though to be fair, the football wasn’t so bad under Gattuso… Had like the 3rd/4th defensive record too and got players like Suso playing out of their skin because he’s another work ethic kind of coach but his first priority was making sure we were hard to beat and that sometimes meant sacrificing the beautiful football obsession with Milan fans….It’s much worse now, very very bad
So Pepe has time on his side, but right now Gervinho has had a much better career at club and international level.
He’s got 8 years on him ffs. One is nearly ending his career the other just beginning. Christ you talk some shite
Marko To be fairly honest, I’d love to see what Wenger would do over here in Milan. No European football as a distraction and will have some quality attacking players to extract a bit more out of… Problem might be he would have to make do with having just 1 very good CB in Romagnoli and Calabrai at RB…. The whole defensive line asides those two is an absolute mess but guess he’d be used to that😁😁😁😁…. I’d be very open to Gazidis getting the band together of that were the case and some fans who attend games i interact… Read more »
“Why did Milan sack Gattuso? I know Pep he ain’t ”
Arteta he ain’t either.
Marko you’re still wildly unaware at how much you covet Wenger chat as you try and pin dribbly comments my way.
Such as:
“I know he’s the absentee father you always wanted”
Absolute belter that is, dripping in sense there you fucking melon 😂 everyone’s IQ takes a hit per post you make. Give us peace
Bati it’d be interesting to see but I expect after the initial boost he’d give them they’d still suck tremendous amounts of ass. It’d be worth it to see if he might be interested in taking some of his old favorites from Arsenal to Milan.
Loved watching Andrey Arshavin play, one of my favourites alongside Cesc, Nasri, Santi and RVP.
It’s sad to read. A man who was earning £190k a week, complaining about expectations. Careful the usual types won’t like that it sounds a bit like a negative comment about Wenger. That was my original comment that seemingly set you off. Fairly innocent and like I said you can let some of them go. But you don’t do you. Obsessed really. The funny thing is I’ve called you Emery obsessed before and then you’ve talked about how the post is about him so therefore it’s fair game. Well the scrot is referenced in today’s post so by your logic… Read more »
Bati Jesus, high maintenance over at Milan. Would have thought that anybody who came in and brought stability and results, let alone a club icon in Gattuso would have been met with open arms as you’s have been dogshit for half a decade. Inter aren’t playing beautiful stuff under Conte but he’s come in and had a huge impact from the off. This is with virtually the same team from last season Lukaku and God in aside and he’s lost Icardi. Shows that a manager CAN make a significant impact in spite of the group that he’s working with *cough… Read more »
Jim
Add Hleb to that list with TR7
We have some midfield maestros back then.
Not much steel but lots of creativity.
And yes I would prefer Alex Song to Xhaka! He did more for us back then than loser Xhaka
Arshavin was unfortunate that he came to the club when Bendtner was our starting CF. Would have been even better with a decent CF to play off of.
He came post Adebayor, fit RVP and Eduardo and before RVP exploded post horse placenta.
Valentin one day you will drop your views (biased and laced with pettiness as they are) without referencing your wife or brother in-law. It’s like me claiming to know everything about Ireland because i comment on the same blog with Marko.
Unless your wife works in Ivorian football, name dropping her in your attempts to paint Pepe as a dud is pointless
@Guns –
Yeah both of those were quality to watch also! Still remember that Nasri goal against Porto absolute thing of beauty!
I can’t listen to the podcast in case Mirrrooorrr maaayyaaannnnnn … is still the opening themes music. I can’t be doing with it regardless of content.
Oh I see how it is, Marko is your Irish reference point…
“Oh I see how it is, Marko is your Irish reference point…”
Also feeling attacked.
We’re the red-headed step children Jim.
Right in them feels.
Sorry Eagle and Jim but Marko is the only one on here that gets sh*t from Don for being Irish.
Inter aren’t playing beautiful stuff under Conte but he’s come in and had a huge impact from the off.
I dunno if I agree with that. They weren’t great against Juve but Milan previously they played good stuff. The 3-1-4-2 formation is adventurous enough I think.
Shows that a manager CAN make a significant impact in spite of the group that he’s working with *cough Emery*…
Groups inherited matter in this context. Inherited Skriniar, De Vrij and Brozovic in defensive areas is not the same as Koscielny, Mustafi and Xhaka.
@WE –
I’ll take my shillelagh and pint of G and hit the road I suppose…
Inter have only really played great football in all but two games this season. What they have done though is win games at all costs under Conte, showing heart and passion. Let’s not pretend Inter are now playing champagne football just to shat on Emery, they aren’t.
Oh I see how it is, Marko is your Irish reference point…
Yeah I would have gone with the guy named Jim Lahey personally
RH
I forgive you mate, just don’t let it ever happen again…
All seriousness agree with your point re Valentin.
Nobody is saying that they’re playing champagne football, they are though in the title race and it took a very late winner from Fatboy Hig to knock then off their perch
Who is Irish
Eagle i can rub salt in injury by offering you a cold bottle of Nigerian Guinness
Conte taking the inter job and what he was going to inherit is one of the reasons why I don’t see someone like Allegri taking on the Arsenal job. These types of managers usually take on a job with a good set up with a fairly decent squad make up. Allegri with our midfield and defence in the summer of 2018 would have been scared off unless he had the funds to overhaul
I think 09/10 was the best in terms of all the creative players sadly most of them always injured and we can’t field the strongest side
the infamous Arsenal medical fitness team with huge injury list
Eagle Conte is a winner, personally if we were going to go for a coach coming off a bad experience in another big club i would have gone for him in place of Emery.
Always felt going for Emery off the back of his perceived failure( perceived cos i do not consider his time there as failure) at PSG would always mean people got on his back if it takes time for his work to materialize here. That feeling has been vindicated.
“Shows that a manager CAN make a significant impact in spite of the group that he’s working with *cough Emery*…” WengerEagle, speaks forth reason… (as he often does). That is why I’m amazed that Emery is given a carte blanche by some of the fan base for shutting Özil out. As I’ve said, this isn’t man management but a fear of doing so. Wenger, in his final days, couldn’t handle big players either. That’s why we lost Sanchez, Cesc and RvP without a fight. We’re just repeating his mistakes. I thought Emery would have learnt from his PSG experience and… Read more »
Dunno what Ozil and Emery’s time at PSG has in common. Ozil is no Neymar and Neymar did not have any raging issues with Emery. I think people are beginning to confuse Ben Arfa with Neymar through their Ozil tinted lens.
Ozil was a problem before Emery, will remain a problem after Emery. All that has happened is Emery has decided Ozil is not his problem.
That is why I’m amazed that Emery is given a carte blanche by some of the fan base for shutting Özil out…I thought Emery would have learnt from his PSG experience and brought Özil into the fold for the benefit of the team. In your mind you probably think you’re making a case for Ozil but there’s literally nothing in what you said that calls for Ozil to be reinstated. Maybe talk about what it is that he would add to the team these days say it with a straight face though. But be warned I’ll probably respond with examples… Read more »
I remember people around here lauding Ole as an example of a manager making a big impact when he first took over. All gone very quiet on that front.
So much of it today is new manager bounce and players responding to a manager who is the polar opposite to the previous in terms of man-management, and that only lasts so long unless personnel significantly improves.
Also worth remembering how listless and poor Chelsea were when Conte was sacked, and how he spent the last few months there seemingly in a never-ending sulk on the touchline.
“I remember people around here lauding Ole as an example of a manager making a big impact when he first took over. All gone very quiet on that front.”
Yep Ole was prime Pep on here a few months ago, now he is the village idiot. With friends (or fans) like this who needs enemies
Emery is the head coach of Arsenal. Özil is an Arsenal player. Ozil is his problem whether he wants to acknowledge it or not. If he didn’t want to deal with Özil he shouldn’t have taken the job in the first place. Özil was given his new contract before Emery, he knew full well that he was going to be part of his squad for a long time. I’m sure given Özil’s contract Emery would have been undoubtedly been asked how he would handle him. I doubt he would have gotten the job if he answered, “I would ignore him… Read more »
If he didn’t want to deal with Özil he shouldn’t have taken the job in the first place…He had no problem telling Mustafi to leave, why doesn’t he do the same with Özil and be done with it?
He is dealing with it and the club seemingly wants rid. Again a poor case for bringing in Ozil from the cold
I have decided to watch highlights from a few Chelsea games and what many are lauding as Lampards philosophy is just the presence of midfielders willing to run ahead of the striker. Something many on here consider a taboo of sorts yet lauded at another club Kante spends his time running all over the pitch often popping up in the opposition box, Emery asks that of Torriera and many scream blue murder. And no Ozil will not help there as his specialty is balls into full backs ghosting in behind the defense and strolling to the edge of the opposition… Read more »
Leeds, agree.
The troubling thing for me is this: What did he present to the board?
That he was going to freeze mesut out?
How did he frame the armband to Raul and Edu?
Why does Mesut get frozen out, but Mustafi finds a way back in?
“If he didn’t want to deal with Özil he shouldn’t have taken the job in the first place.”
Probably because the job advertised was for Arsenal FC not Ozil FC
“How did he frame the armband to Raul and Edu?”
I am guessing Edu and Raul have not totally ignored the simple fact the squad voted their five captains and Emery did not hand Ozil the captaincy as you have maintained.
“Why does Mesut get frozen out, but Mustafi finds a way back in?”
Effort. Three clean sheets in his three appearances would have answered that
Pedro
“Why does Mesut get frozen out, but Mustafi finds a way back in?”
Exactly.
Closing one’s eyes and putting your fingers in one’s ears, repeatedly saying to oneself, “Other players deserve it more, other players deserve it more.” is not dealing with the problem.
Funny thing is that for all the deserved criticism Emery is getting keeping Ozil out of the team isn’t one of them. Ozil fanboys it’s worth remembering that this is all down to Mesut and Mesut alone. If he showed any effort or desire or made himself available enough or even just performed to a certain standard then he’d be playing but as things stand he does none of those things. Again since the incident with the attempted robbery Kolasinac missed one game and was back available since then while Ozil missed the first game pulled a sicky and missed… Read more »
“He had no problem telling Mustafi to leave, why doesn’t he do the same with Özil ”
C’mon man, it’s impossible to be too harsh with Mesut when you look him right in the eyes.
(sorry…)
(lol)
He’s playing Mustafi well too if we’re being totally honest and objective. Basically saying that you’re not part of our plans and you’re back up at best game time will be rare and if you don’t like it leave. Have to take a difference stance with Ozil obviously because playing once or twice a month is ideal for him.
Leeds, at least when Jose would freeze someone out, there was a reason… you’d see an end product, or some method behind the madness.
We don’t create chances.
Mesut can’t even make the squad.
Again, why bring him along for preseason if you have no intention of giving him a chance?
Agree with Marko on Ozil and Mustafi.
Mustafi can be used as backup and be pushed out but playing Ozil in breaks is playing right into his hands.
Again plenty to criticize Emery for justifiably. But to criticize him for freezing out Ozil isn’t one of them and it takes a special individual to do so. Luckily there only seems about 3 people around here who do it. 3 who keep ignoring the fact that a lot of the games he’s missing is down to Mesut and Mesut alone. Whether it’s illness or poor performances. Still gets ignored though