The Unai Emery Mirage

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We won.

We’re 3rd, 1 point behind Manchester City.

This should be a joyous occasion, but it’s not.

The table is a liar, she did it to us last season and she’s doing it to us again. We’re not very good, but we’re falling up the stairs. The ‘on-paper’ monkeys can point to ‘the only reality that matters is points’, but as a casual reminder, this is what happened last season.

You cannot continue to ignore what your eyes see week to week.

Unai Emery cannot find a performance. He cannot find a balanced starting 11. His in-game decisions lead me to believe he doesn’t actually see what we’re all seeing.

Winning ugly is not a sustainable strategy for a club that can’t defend or create chances.

Bournemouth are a terrible side. Their position in the league is also very kind to their reality. They don’t press, they don’t create meaningful chances and they leak shots. Rounding up, they’ve conceded about 17 shots a game this season. They are relegation fodder unless Eddie finds some magic. Perfect opposition for us.

The first half saw exactly what we all expected. A bad team struggling to find confidence away at a big club. They didn’t press, they looked nervous and they offered us up oceans of space to enact whatever the Emery vision supposedly is.

We offered up very little. Arsenal were comfortable, some fans celebrated that as a positive, but if we’re honest, Forest would have given us more of a game. We managed 2 shots on target in the first half, one was from a setpiece. There was no magic in our attack, we played like there was no real plan, and there was a real lack of energy in the middle of the park.

At the half time mark, I kind of hoped the manager would remember the Villa game and react, but he didn’t. We stuck with the same players, we created very little, but we allowed Bournemouth to get a foot in the game. They were bad in the final third, but they certainly created dangerous moments.

So what did Emery do? He subbed off Nicolas Pepe on 60 minutes. I understand that his performance wasn’t up to much, but the lack of attempts on their goal wasn’t really in his responsibility domain. The decision was a stinging rebuke, and really, not smart management. He’s our most expensive signing, he was playing against duffers, he should have been given the minutes to play his way back into the match.

… that’s not to takeaway from Gabriel, the kid deserved to play, I just think the signal the sub sent wasn’t a confidence builder and I think it was a misdiagnosis of the problem.

Things didn’t improve anyway, even with the electric Brazilian on the pitch, because the problem wasn’t the front three, it was what sat behind them. The manager took off Ceballos for Willock, which added a little more energy, but not much purpose. Again, rotating like for like wasn’t going to shake the game.

It also didn’t stem the flow of Bournemouth, we ended up forming deep banks to protect against their growing confidence… then the icing on the cake, Emery took Saka off for Lucas Torriera. Hard to work out what he was doing there, was LT a DM, a #10 or an auxiliary winger? Either way, it didn’t do much for our structure. We only started getting chances again when Bournemouth threw everything at landing a point, that created counter-attack chances and we did manage to hit the post late on after the impressive Cal Chambers put Auba in.

So at home, against one of the leakiest teams in the league, we managed one shot on target in open play. That is as strong an indictment of Emery as I can muster. Edu, sitting in the stands, did not look happy. How could he be after sanctioning such a big spend this summer, we have not moved forward.

A lot of fans will point to the omittance of Mesut Ozil as a glaringly obvious fix. Again, I cannot repeat this often enough, he’s really not my cup of tea. However, it’s hard to argue that the German couldn’t have influenced a game like today. The players will know that, and this sort of treatment will build pressure on Emery.

The manager is making a martyr out of the German in the same way he did with Ramsey last season. The longer the player sits in metaphorical prison on hunger strike, the louder and more appealing his silent message becomes. None of this would matter if Emery had made this decision in preseason and not shown the player to us. None of this would matter if he hadn’t given him one of the five armbands. None of this would matter if the alternative was 20 chances a game and electric ‘I DON’T MISS OZIL’ football.

To make matters worse for the manager, the pregame Twitter banter has a magical moment from Ozil at training. It also has a damning video of Xhaka gifting Auba a goal after a mistake in training.

If Ozil is a political prisoner, then Granit Xhaka is a sham President after a stolen election. He doesn’t speak the language of the people and his football policies stink. He was mostly ok today, but that’s all he ever is. His best trait is arguing with the referee. He doesn’t drive the team forward, he doesn’t inspire and his presence flattens the energy. Today offered up perfect conditions for him to thrive and he still couldn’t muster a worldy.

Unai Emery is a bad artist. He has the water paints, the canvass, a perfect view on the Amalfi Coast, and he’s out there painting dick pics and wondering why his funders are pissed. The perfect conditions for his system to flourish appear to be Championship sides or Europa Cup ties. We’re 11 games into the season, there’s no style and the philosophy seems to be ‘hope to nick a goal then defend like we’re in the last minute of a Sunday League Cup Final.’

There is no excuse for drab football this season. There is no excuse to defend a 1-0 lead at home against Bournemouth with defensive subs in the last 10. What we are seeing on the pitch is bad… but as I said last week, Emery can point to the table, that’s his safety blanket until things get tasty in December.

Roll on another week.

Enjoy the win, savour being 3rd in the league a point behind City… but don’t count your chickens just yet, because until performances start to arrive, this is all a big lie that will correct just as you start to believe.

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411 Responses to “The Unai Emery Mirage”

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  1. Danny

    As I said earlier, we’re 3rd and 8 unbeaten.
    I still hope Emery fucks off sooner than later but the facts are the facts.

  2. TitsMcGee

    It’s obvious by now Emery isn’t the saviour. Maybe he’ll eeek his way into top 4 but we are currently falling azz backwards into that position.

    Early in Klopp’s tenure you could see what his vision was, they needed better horses but he had a vision. I see nothing of the sort from UE. No cohesion in attack or defence. Just a completely randomised free-for-all.

    At least we know he won’t be here for a decade with this mediocre style and we can mix-match.

  3. TitsMcGee

    It’s kind of like the season we finished 2nd and the AKBs were celebrating like it meant that we were somehow trending upwards towards the end of AW.

    We all know how that turned out. This too is a Mirage helped by MC, Spurs and Chelsea not playing up to their standards.

  4. Chitom

    “Unai Emery is a bad artist. He has the water paints, the canvass, a perfect view on the Amalfi Coast, and he’s out there painting dick pics “

    Lol

  5. Thorough

    We are atrocious.
    We look like epileptic in space.
    I hope I’ve watched Kolasinac for the last time in the Epl.
    If we’d lost we would have had no complaints.

  6. Bamford10

    Cesc

    Emery probably sees most of the bad things that we see; the problem is he sees Xhaka as “a vocal leader,” a guy who plays “with his heart on his sleeve,” a player of “blood and guts”. This is all bullshit, of course, but it’s for these reasons that Emery thinks Xhaka is necessary to the XI. Xhaka is the guy screaming when they huddle in a circle, etc. etc. Further, Emery has the players’ captaincy vote, in which they unfortunately affirmed this stupid fucking view.

    As I said before, we have to hope that Emery either comes to his senses or that Xhaka goes out on suspension or maternity leave and never regains his place in the XI.

  7. Crispen

    Very good article..
    This Emery rubbish is not sustainable
    We will end up fifth at best
    Get Rid of this Emery guy before Christmas. He is junk.

  8. Guns of Hackney

    “Painting dick pics”. 2000 words and I pick this out. Sorry, Peter…excellent post but if you keep throwing these Easter eggs in, people like me with childish humour will keep finding them. Well played!

    I could t see the game but based on the score line, write up and general feeling, one could imagine we stunk up the pitch again.

    Also…£72m and getting hooked on 60mins is criminal. This lad is a total Trojan horse. Sorry, but this guy is a bad Apple. Lille must be laughing all the way to the vineyard.

    Bad scouting again.

  9. Bamford10

    To reiterate, it’s pretty simple, actually.

    First, we need to replace today’s back four with Bellerin, Holding, Chambers and Tierney as soon as possible. Like tomorrow.

    Second, Xhaka must lose his place in the starting XI immediately. He is a terrible weakness for us in the center of midfield.

    The first change should more or less take care of itself, though I think there’s a chance that Emery will continue to start one of the two older CBs.

    If Emery doesn’t make the second change soon, however, he should be replaced. Sooner rather than later.

  10. Guns of Hackney

    On the subject of dick art. What ever happened to the ubiquitous ‘spunking dick’ that adorned many a bus stop? Maybe I’m dating myself here but, nothing said 1980’s like spunking dick pics and glue sniffers on a bench.

  11. Arthur

    Good post and hard to disagree with it’s main point but it a conundrum. Emery is a pragmatist, he is currently getting results. It is hard to sack him based on what might happen in the future. He deserves to continue but we may have to get used to these types of performance. Make top four and it will have been worth it.

  12. Un na naai

    From previous

    But RT
    you just said that the majority were behind wenger.
    So what does that make you? The rare arsenal fan who only wants the best for arsenal
    You are a little trooper aren’t you!!
    The last bastion, Fighting against all odds to defend Emery.
    A man who’s only as good as Wenger was at his lowest ebb. Even Pedro has laid out those stats and he was leading the charge for Wenger to go.

  13. Samesong

    Pepe is struggling with the pace of the league and should be used a a sub for the next few games. He takes too much touches of the ball at times and his passing us woeful.

    His shooting also is not what I expect from his YouTube videos lol

    That assist today was from a corner. I wouldn’t get too excited about that.

    Side note

    We are the best team at changing our attack to the opposition attack in record breaking time.

    Chambers did a few critical blocks today but he still gets ne nervous when I see players running at him, he’s another that loses the ball upfield in attack and struggles to get back. His crossing lame also.

  14. Pierre

    What’s all this rolling about in agony to try and influence the referee .

    It embarrassing and is getting worse week on week .

    Guendouzi, Torreria, Ceballos Sokratis and even Kolasinac made fools if themselves today with their over reaction to the faintest of touches .

    Most of the time they were holding the wrong part of their leg where they had been touched.

    It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that this sort of behaviour is encouraged by the manager as it has only started since the beginning of last season .

    It also slows the game down and ruins the flow of the game ……..maybe the manager encourages this also.

  15. foreverinourshadows

    Emery is so negative as a manager , I can’t stand his lack of style, his crap formation, his pointless interviews, he really is dross.Xhaka another mishap who should be moved on, we were awful today, no cohesion, no balance, then bringing on Toriera on the wing, the man is a fool.I have started telling mates Emery out, but they won’t listen, too scared by the Wenger hazard, but sooner or later they will see what I am seeing, a clueless manager out of his depth

  16. Busayo

    You accurately sum up my thoughts on Emery and our league performances so far this season. The team is crying out for creativity. Emery is a coward and how he’s handling Ozil is a big shame. There’s no way Ozil doesn’t improve this team by miles.

  17. Guns of Hackney

    Never buy from the French league. I’m telling you, Pepe is a bloke that was okay on a 5 a side pitch, could do 100 kick ups and his mate made a video, trawled it around some clubs and he got lucky at Lille. Scored a couple and made a few and here we are.

    He’s 24 years old. This is NOT young as a footballer. Kind of middle aged. This guy should be smashing it. We were robbed. Pepe is the car you buy and find out it’s full of newspaper and dreams for bodywork.

    Utter shite.

  18. Dissenter

    Ozil’s problems are all on Ozil. It’s laughable when Pedro says Ozil would have influenced a game like this.
    When is the last time Ozil influenced a game?

  19. Guvnor

    Emery will be sacked and his appointment has Bruce Rioch written all over it.
    Edu is not going to put up with dreary football and missing out on the champions league again this year.
    He is a terrible tactician and a cup manager. There seems to be no philosophy or style and the players looked bored.
    I would appoint either Arteta or a more experienced manager with an exciting style.

  20. Valentin

    Guns of Hackney,

    Lille are just laughing all the way to the bank…

    The scouting was not necessarily wrong, but the two things that were wrong were the price (way too high) and the perception that Pepe was already world class.

    Pepe himself said that he was going to move to a club on the second tier of Europe to improve and learn more. Yet most people were assuming that Arsenal was buying the finished article because of the price.

    What was incorrect in the scouting is the fact that Pepe is very one dimensional and that if Arsenal were not going to implement a system that suit him, he would not be a success without a long period of adaptation. That was already visible at AFCON 2019 when he got benched because he could not adapt to Cote d’Ivoire system. In fact Cote d’Ivoire best game was against Namibia, game in which he did not played.

  21. Un na naai

    Pierre

    Agree on the rolling around. It’s disgusting and it’s gone up several notches under emery

    He’s Jose but without the charm, trophy and win record.
    He’s sucked the joy from arsenal completely in less than a season and it’s only getting worse and worse.

    Please god I hope edu and Raul have something exciting lined up in June.
    Thanks but no thanks emery. You will not be remembered fondly. Even wenger’s final 3 years brought a couple of trophies and a second place finish

    We beat chavs in the FA cup and community shield convincingly. Emery got tanked by an inferior Chelsea side. All this from a man dubbed a defensive tactician. A man who tailors his team to the opposition?
    Tailor made?
    If he were a suit maker then that’s a size 10 waste for John Candy

  22. Un na naai

    Pepe is trying to adapt to the toughest league in the world under a coach who doesn’t know what he’s doing.

    You think it’s easy to pick it up under a negative manager who thwarts his best at king players before they step onto the pitch?

  23. Pierre

    Dissenter
    “When was the last time Ozil influenced a game .”

    Some stats from Arseblog on that last match Ozil played (for 70 mins)

    Looks pretty influential to me, he hasn’t played one minute since despite being fit.

    6 – Key passes by Mesut Özil, led all players

    14 – Very deep completions (passes within 15 meters of goal) for Arsenal, compared to 0 for Nottingham Forest.

    4 – Very deep completions by Mesut Özil, led all players.

    192 – Passes completed in the final third for Arsenal, compared to 31 for Nottingham Forest.

    37 – Passes completed in the final third by Mesut Özil, led all players

  24. Sid

    Arsenal to finish 2nd in the league at worst, we might get lucky and ein it, the gegenpress is not sustainable pool collapse
    You heard it here 1st!

  25. Leftsidesanch

    A decision I find strange is that Ozil was named as one of five captains even though he is nowhere near Unai’s thinking or plans this year. Everything comes across so incoherently.

  26. Champagne charlie

    Pedro

    I think you’ll find we don’t have the players to play good stuff at home to Bournemouth…..or something like that.

    Still poverty o’clock on the squad front if you listen to the excuses in the wind.

    Never mind the reality, which was Wenger had us playing better football with shittier players more consistently. That’s an ouchy. We were peak flat track bullies under him in the end, and woeful against top 6 sides and beyond – this with the usual whipping boys nipping about too.

    Now we’re clinging for hope outside of Notts Forest and SubStandard Liege, this with some proper talent added, and some slack on the rope to go do the thing vs bannersaurus mong ready and waiting.

  27. TitsMcGee

    Waaay too early to be writing off Pepe. Way too early.

    8 games into a new league which has a rep for being the toughest.

  28. Chris

    There was actually whistling for the final whistle where I was today. At home against Bournemouth, I mean I get scrapping out a win fair enough, but that’s not great.

  29. Marko

    I gave up after the first couple paragraphs. All I can ask is what do you propose then Pedro? No one’s mincing any words when it comes to the performances but you’re absolutely deluded if you think anyone’s getting sacked with us sitting in third place. Unless things get really bad it’ll have to wait until the end of the season. Do you think you can wait that long?

  30. Champagne charlie

    Zaha was certainly my preference in the summer, but Pepe will come good imo. He’s not getting much help with adaptation though, I personally felt he should’ve been kept for EL and cup games, with now being his league intro.

    He’s had to stumble through some better sides with little joy and it seems to be weighing on him to get that all important involvement etc. Should’ve been our main man against the peasant sides and given him a leg up before letting him loose on the league.

  31. salparadisenyc

    “Unai Emery cannot find a performance”

    Post title says it all, this season is headed for a carbon copy of the last.

    Except this line above I agree with everything. Unai has found a performance, in what one can only assume his preferred competition the cup tie’s. For whatever reason he reverts to type in the league and were living in this continual Jekyll and Hyde existence.

    That said we’ve faced some dire competition in the Europa league, cannot see Unai taking us to ze next level with the league hand break on.

  32. Marko

    Now we’re clinging for hope outside of Notts Forest and SubStandard Liege, this with some proper talent added, and some slack on the rope to go do the thing vs bannersaurus mong ready and waiting.

    Difference being Xhaka didn’t play in those games and we had proper players in defence. If you’re asking me how we can’t perform better with Xhaka and the likes playing I couldn’t give you an answer it would be purely conjecture

  33. Jamie

    Last game in which Ozil played:

    Arsenal 5 goals
    Ozil 0 goals
    Ozil 0 assists
    Chambers 3 assists (one from LB, 2 from RB)
    Ozil wages since that game > wages paid to Chambers, Holding, Martinelli, Saka, Willock, Torriera, Guendouzi, Ceballos.

    Can’t wait for him to fuck off.

  34. Bamford10

    Champagne

    “But the fan base isn’t ‘fragile’. There’s not a current of discontent whatsoever. So I’m told by Bamford.”

    Except that I never said that. What I actually said was that there is no consensus at the moment, which is what I believed you asserted. Some think Emery is incompetent and a disaster; some think he is a competent if unspectacular manager who has gotten or is getting a few important things wrong; some seem still to think that he might be the right man for the job.

    If your point was that most Arsenal fans are in one of the first two groups, i.e., are not completely satisfied with everything they’re seeing, well, then, sure, that’s true. But that’s not much of a point, and that certainly isn’t the point I thought I was responding to. I thought I was responding to the claim that most Arsenal fans agree with the likes of you, Pedro and Pierre about Emery. That is not true; that was my point.

    As for your saying the Arsenal fan base is “fragile,” I’m going to admit that I honestly have no idea what this even means.

    Finally, when I reviewed your earlier remarks to see if I had misunderstood something, I realized that some of the confusion — if that’s what’s going on here — might have been caused by some of your prose. For example, this is one of the comments you posted earlier:

    “I made an observation of the current state of the fan base, a view curated from the inputs here, and amongst my gooner friends far and wide. The consensus is unrest, and lack of clarity about the immediate to long term future under Emery for reasons I’ve stated. As I dubbed it a ‘fragility’.”

    “The consensus is unrest”? What does that even mean? Again, if all you meant is that many people are not completely satisfied with everything they’re seeing, well, then, sure, that’s true. But as I said above: that’s not much of a point, and it’s definitely not the point I thought I was responding to.

  35. Pedro

    Marko,

    Generally, as a rule of thumb, I’ll only engage with your ignorance if you read the post.

    Valentin, harsh on Pepe. Think he’ll come good but it’s tough to make an impact with poverty service. Not sure we thought he was world class, but we hoped he had a higher ceiling than Zaha.

  36. Champagne charlie

    “Difference being Xhaka didn’t play in those games and we had proper players in defence. If you’re asking me how we can’t perform better with Xhaka and the likes playing I couldn’t give you an answer it would be purely conjecture”

    We played better football under Wenger in the league, your fave pet hate played then.

    Think the reason we play better in those games mentioned is the level of opposition. Literal levels below us and thus we look like a football team.

    Still embarrassingly numb to what was being labelled conjecture, but don’t let that stop a shit attempt at a burn. good lad Hahahaha

  37. Champagne charlie

    “If your point was that most Arsenal fans are in one of the first two groups, i.e., are not completely satisfied with everything they’re seeing, well, then, sure, that’s true.”

    That’s it pal, walk it back with your trousers at your ankles.

    “I thought I was responding to the claim that most Arsenal fans agree with the likes of you, Pedro and Pierre about Emery. That is not true; that was my point.”

    Maybe take some of that advice you dish out and read what’s written, absorb what’s being said, clarify if needed, and then responded.

    ““The consensus is unrest”? What does that even mean? Again, if all you meant is that many people are not completely satisfied with everything they’re seeing, well, then, sure, that’s true. But as I said above: that’s not much of a point”

    I’ve just popped that through my bellend translator and out came:

    I read that wrong, made several comments against something else entirely, look a bit of a tit, shuffling back now, still going to go on the offensive and claim it wasn’t worded correctly…actually no, I’ll dismiss it even being a worthwhile point to make. Yea, I’ll do that.

    Anyway, as you were Banford, schooling all with your peng football knowledge.

  38. TR7

    One shot on target in open play against a listless Bournemouth – the buck stops squarely at Emery. I read a transcript of his pre-match interview and all he talked about was intensity of ‘off the ball’ play which basically is an euphemism for stopping the opposition from playing. This is Bournemouth we are talking about, not Barcelona, City or Bayern.

  39. Bamford10

    I’m not so sure about Pepe. I think he has pace and that he can score if given a lot of space to run in. As for being a good dribbler, or good in close spaces, or smart in combination with other players, or even a quality finisher, however, I’m not seeing any of that at the moment.

    And I’m not buying that he’s not getting the ball enough. He’s getting the ball plenty; he just isn’t doing anything of quality with it.

    Obviously it’s still early days, and he might come good, of course, but I can’t say that I am seeing much in what I have seen from him so far.

  40. Marko

    We played better football under Wenger in the league, your fave pet hate played then.

    Yeah that’s totally and utterly subjective. There are those of us who think that we’ve actually played poor football for a number of years now. Plus for all the supposed better football and Unai worse with better players the goals for and against is one less scored one or two less conceded so I’m not sure I buy the whole better football under Wenger shite that you’re peddling.

    My opinion still stands it’s no surprise that in some of the recent better performances we had no Xhaka or Kolasinac or Sokratis playing or AMN as a fullback. it’ll dawn on you and Emery eventually that we actually function better as a team without certain types in there. Xhaka being the obvious one

  41. Valentin

    Pedro,

    Both Galthier and Bielsa said the same thing about Pepe. He needs a lot of coaching to adapt. Both had extra session where they literally showed him the runs they were expecting of him.
    That’s not Emery style of coaching. He does a lot of video analysis, but very few on site repetitive exercises.
    There is a reason why before both Bielsa and Galthier he has been mostly playing in Ligue 2. He is a trickster, but by default a very static player who rely on his dribbling ability.

  42. Marko

    don’t let that stop a shit attempt at a burn. good lad Hahahaha

    Would you stop you’re a grown man calling people dairylea dunkers and thinking you’re hilarious. Between that and McMuffin I can only assume that you’re a dullard fatty

  43. Receding Hairline

    If some of you could write to the FA to deduct points from your team you will. What a bunch of moaners. I guess its the classic “I prefer we play better football than win” stuff.

    Well united aren’t playing good football nor winning, just a few months ago some on here said “at least we can see what Ole is trying to build” bla bla bla. If you think anyone is sacking a manager who has lost one game all season because he isn’t playing expansive football you need to see a shrink.

  44. Marko

    Generally, as a rule of thumb, I’ll only engage with your ignorance if you read the post.

    Ah just assume that I generally peruse the post if it’s Emery related because it’s a broken record at this point. I’m just trying to gage if you’re making a case for sacking now or if you can’t wait until the summer? Do you think we’re going to sack someone sitting in third one defeat on the season despite all the obvious troubles that exist? Cause I don’t

  45. Champagne charlie

    “My opinion still stands it’s no surprise that in some of the recent better performances we had no Xhaka or Kolasinac or Sokratis playing or AMN as a fullback. it’ll dawn on you and Emery eventually that we actually function better as a team without certain types in there. Xhaka being the obvious one“

    Yea, just like the 3 clean sheets with last season public enemy number 1 Mustafi. I guess he must be the pathetically weak causal element of our rock solid defence in those games to follow on from your logic?

    Or…..mind bender…..we could just be talking about the 2/3 times we’ve played proper lowly opposition this season?

    Also, the goals for/against stuff doesn’t tell the whole picture there does it. You can win 1-0 in a drab affair or win 1-0 but be cruising and only score 1 of a half dozen chances. Chalk and cheese really.

    I smell some of that agenda of youre genuinely going to go to war against the idea we played better football winder wenger. I never said all the time, and I certainly don’t mean against top 6 sides bar the odd corker, but we were flat track bullies outside that more often than not, and a worthwhile watch.

  46. Freddie Ljungberg

    For those claiming we played better football under late Wenger and that we were successful flat track bullies then just no.

    We played awful football and struggled in most matches, especially away, hence the 5th and 6th placings.

    I’ll take the results with crappy football while the new players and the youngsters adapts and our first choice defence gets back from injury.

    We have a much better squad on paper than last season but it’s all potential atm, Pepe and Ceballos are bound to get better and that will make our attacking play better and make us more attractive to watch, Saka, Martinelli, Nelson will hopefully continue to progress, and we will look much stronger defensively with Bellerin, Tierney and Holding back.

    We’ll still have Xhaka dragging us down but hopefully we address that properly in January with Sangare.

    Way too much whining here from the usual suspects.

    Don

    “He’s sucked the joy from arsenal completely in less than a season and it’s only getting worse and worse.”

    This shows so clearly your agenda, where the fuck was the joy in our last seasons with Wenger? No it all started 1 year ago right, it’s like we didn’t witness a carcrash in slow motion over several years while the squad got worse every season. Smh

  47. Marko

    He needs a lot of coaching to adapt. Both had extra session where they literally showed him the runs they were expecting of him.
    That’s not Emery style of coaching. He does a lot of video analysis, but very few on site repetitive exercises.

    Woah woah woah what about all that overworking double sessions shite being peddled all last season? Again it’s the consistency I like

  48. salparadisenyc

    Problem is nobody is forcing Emery to field Xhaka, Sokratis or anyone else, he’s been soooooo decisive on Ozil one can only assume those are his first choice players as league has to be the goal, barring the full backs who are gaining fitness and working their way into the starting XI.

    That said, Chambers was very good today.

  49. Receding Hairline

    Wonder where the joy was that Pedro spent years calling for change Don. The joy only left for you when Emery was appointed then, seems your joy had nothing to do with football nor results

  50. China1

    The last few years under wenger was absolutely miserable

    Emery has clearly not managed to inject any joy into the club but he certainly hasn’t sucked life out of it. You can’t suck life out of a corpse that’s been decomposing for about 5 straight years.

    Unless you mean sucking life out of the maggots!

  51. Crusaderrabbit

    Awful today just awful. Emerys Arsenal just reeks of his tepid pragmatism, and safety first attitude which runs so counter to the values of the club and the abilities of the team. I would generally take missing out on the top 4 if it meant he would sod off and take his awful footballing ethos (or lack of) with him

  52. Marko

    Yeah no I read it Pedro and it’s more of the same. I’m asking you do you think that they’re going to sack someone sitting in third? I know it’s what you want but I don’t think that comes into their thinking. Can you not wait until the end of the season is the other question

  53. Bob N16

    First thing I would say is Pépé hasn’t looked good but he deserves time. Ironically though, most of the fan base were desperate to sign a top winger and this season so far we’ve had Saka, Martinelli and to an extent Nelson all performing better than our new signing.

    In two weeks I would hope Tiernay, Bellerin and Holding start playing PL. Hopefully Laca will also be ready. Then all we’ll need is Xhaka to get his 5th booking and Emery by default pick a balanced, dynamic midfield combination that doesn’t get overrun by the likes of Bournemouth in the 2 nd half today.

    So far this season our points accumulation has been fine but our performances haven’t.

    Loving United and Spurs’ points tally though -they are looking up at us so we shouldn’t be too down about scraping a win against Bournemouth. Not sure what Howe said to them at half time but they were a different team in the second half. We lost the midfield. Didn’t realise Torreira could play on the right. Emery is a joker!

  54. Champagne charlie

    “Would you stop you’re a grown man calling people dairylea dunkers and thinking you’re hilarious. Between that and McMuffin I can only assume that you’re a dullard fatty“

    You’d be about as right as ever. Also, you call folk wanker and dickhead so excuse yourself for thinking you’re fucking grown up or elite for such a thing. Be more original you fucking lychee

  55. Pedro

    Valentin, he looks like he’s lost his confidence to be direct and the system he’s in is giving him scraps to feed off… or asking him to collect from deep. Not great when you’re trying to adapt to a new league and culture at the same time.

    Still think he’s shown exciting flashes.

  56. Un na naai

    Bamford

    Pepe has two assists and has created more chances than any arsenal player with 11 this season. With one goal. He’s also only getting starts in games that emery shuts us down.

    He’s had some close chances with some good saves being made against him.
    He’s getting pulled from right wing to part of a two man strike force with no midfield behind him in the toughest league in the world. He’s played 9 games.

    He’s already doing better at this stage than Pires did. Not that you will remember any of that

    I wouldn’t worry too much just yet

  57. Valentin

    Marko,

    You can double session of training that are physically draining without doing repetitive session of the same movement.
    George Graham used to put the back four in repetitive exercises to develop automatism within the team. But that works only if you have a defined philosophy/tactic. Emery wants to adapt to every team, so every session will be tailored to that effect. So no chance of repetitive automatism developing.
    That is a reason why the young academy players who have developed together seems to have more collective understanding than the first team.

  58. Marko

    Funny thing about you Pedro as well is you do this thing where you’re basically calling for his early dismissal and then you’re cautioning the possibility of Jose Mourinho getting the job which is quite funny considering the latter is only more likely after the former.

  59. Champagne charlie

    “Marko, what’s funny is that Emery is so average, most Arsenal fans would jump at Mourinho in for a season.”

    I laughed at this then realised the truth to it 🥺

    It’d be more entertaining in some aspect for sure.

  60. Receding Hairline

    Sit down for a second and imagine liver pool without their full backs.. How exciting will their play look?? People keep talking about Ozil as a chance creation machine yet when he plays apart from clever balls into the much derided full backs we are accused of using too much under Emery what else does he do? He can’t beat a man,he rarely shoots, he doesn’t press anyone. Tierney and Bellerin need to return to the first team squad, Xhaka will Still be Xhaka but those two fit and firing will change the dynamics of our play.

    But we still need to be on the look out for a midfielder we can build the side around regardless of who the manager is.

  61. Paulinho

    “PaulinhoOctober 6, 2019 16:25:38
    The legendary Longstaff brothers are about to open up a can of whoop ass on United……”

    The Longstaff brothers. Coming to a ground near you soon……..

  62. Marko

    Yea, just like the 3 clean sheets with last season public enemy number 1 Mustafi. I guess he must be the pathetically weak causal element of our rock solid defence in those games to follow on from your logic?

    I mean you can probably get by with one maybe two but not 3/4/5. You’re not making a good case for Xhaka by bringing up another player.

    I smell some of that agenda of youre genuinely going to go to war against the idea we played better football winder wenger. I never said all the time, and I certainly don’t mean against top 6 sides bar the odd corker, but we were flat track bullies outside that more often than not, and a worthwhile watch.

    Yeah total subjective bollox from a you know what. I don’t care about the occasional thrashing at the Emirates under Wenger for years we suffered crab football mixed in with poor away results inadequate showings against top 6 sides and 3-5 embarrassing losses every single season. We haven’t played good football since Fabregas and Van Persie left.

  63. Un na naai

    Receding HairlineOctober 6, 2019 18:18:07
    Wonder where the joy was that Pedro spent years calling for change Don. The joy only left for you when Emery was appointed then, seems your joy had nothing to do with football nor results

    Erm no. My joy came from thrilling football, world class goals, our identity as a footballing entity and the trophies delivered.

    That Wenger dropped the ball post 2012 doesn’t let Emery off the hook for dropping a record equal to or less than Wenger’s worst 44 games as arsenal manager

    Your little go to holds no weigh hairline. Not when Emery’s record is comparable to him.

  64. Marko

    Be more original you fucking lychee

    Gas. I’m pretty sure you’re just stealing either your little nephew’s insults or those kids who tell you to fuck off everytime they kick their ball in your garden

  65. G8

    Everton , Southampton and watford in the relegation zone after 8 games is just as surprising as arsenal sitting on third

  66. Pedro

    Jamie, not for me either.

    Allegri has been learning English, but ruled himself out.

    Wouldn’t be right to put Freddie in the mix.

    Not sure where the club would go… but CL is an absolute priority because we’ve spent all the money… so if the correction comes and it’s bad, I can’t see how they could avoid a big decision.

    Currently 3 points seperates 3rd and 8th. Not sure I’m buying into the league position hype… totally gutted we failed to turnover Spurs and United considering.

  67. Paulinho

    It’s going to be a long two weeks for a lot of Arsenal fans. Third place, one point behind City. Horrible times.

    Hopefully after the international break we will drop a few points and the Emery out campaign can be re-ignited full bore.

  68. Champagne charlie

    “I mean you can probably get by with one maybe two but not 3/4/5. You’re not making a good case for Xhaka by bringing up another player.“

    I’m not making a case for any player. I’m saying quite clearly that our best “performances” have come because of the level of opposition.

    Really? “3/4/5”? Go ahead and name the 5 performances we’ve bossed specifically because of no Xhaka.

  69. Pierre

    There has been an argument that the fans are not sure what Emery’s philosophy is .
    I believe now we are seeing what the manager’s style of football is .

    Pressing , intensity , closing down the opposition, work ,work and work a bit more is the philosophy .

    To play like this consistently in the premier league requires tremendous fitness and endurance .
    It could catch up with the players in the end.

    It caught up with us in the last half hour today and alalaso against United.

    What we are seeing is a repeat of last season , lots of running , lots of intensity and pressing and then we ran out of steam, and that is despite playing the reserves in Europe.

    We do have a stronger squad so maybe his philosophy has more of a chance of succeeding .

    For me, it is a little worrying that we run out of energy on about the hour mark , it happened regularly last season and cost us points as we tried to hang on to fragile leads .

    The manager will be happy as it looks like his judgement and decision making is working , so he will hide behind these results to convince the fans and media that his methods are working.

    3rd in the league, one point behind city , if liverpool have a dip on form , who knows. , maybe we can go a whole season scrambling results as we have with our previous league games v Watford, Tottenham, villa, united and Bournemouth.

  70. Bob N16

    Much as I think Emery is bang average, I shudder at the thought of Mourinho being at our club. As I’ve said before, I think Freddie would be the caretaker coach only if we are in the final say 6/8 weeks of the season and it’s looking like we might not make top 4.

    Of course if we tank in the next six weeks or so then something could happen before the transfer window in January but I think that’s very unlikely as our back four should be a whole lot better. Tiernay will especially make a real difference.

  71. Leftsidesanch

    To be fair to Ole, he doesn’t have that talented a group of players as some believe, and is also dealing with injuries to key players. They didn’t do enough in the summer.

  72. Marko

    Marko, what’s funny is that Emery is so average, most Arsenal fans would jump at Mourinho in for a season.

    Yeah cause he’s going to sign up for a season. Please Jose help us with this bore and come in but just for the rest of the season while we wait for (insert name of manager we really want).

    Also good luck seeing better attacking performances from Jose fucking Mourinho

  73. Jamie

    G8 –

    It’s Watford, Norwich and Everton in the drop zone.

    But yeah, we should be playing more like Norwich, have calves like Watford’s squad, and not have allowed Everton to leap-frog us a year ago.

  74. Un na naai

    What’s funnier is watching Marko squirm after every awful performance under emery, struggling to maintain a defence.

  75. Valentin

    Pedro,

    If you look Pepe, yes he lacks confidence but his two big issues should not be affected by that.

    He is too static, he always expect the ball at his feet rather than running into space. Without the ball he never makes those darting run behind the defense. He may not get the ball all the time, but if one reaches him he then a great opportunity to score. Guendouzi has already proven he can find people with a chip. See His assist to Aubameyang’s goal against Spurs.

    His defensive contribution is negligible. He never tracks his runner. Or he tracks him for 20 yards and then let him run causing somebody else (Guendouzi/Xhaka/Torreira) to move to block the runner and in doing so opening space somewhere else. Even lacking in confidence, he should be able to do that. So unless he is instructed by Emery not do it (Wenger’s style of ordering Xhaka not to tackle), he is not doing what is expected of a right winger.

  76. Paulinho

    The excuses people make for Rashford is incredible.

    Neville and Tyler talking about him like some all-time great coming back from some personal crisis or injury when he’s always been wank.

  77. Champagne charlie

    Arsenal aren’t ready for an internal move like that imo. I’ve said it before but we really need a serious recalibration with the exposure to gash defensive management we’ve seen the past half dozen years.

    This group are you young and need grounding by someone with pedigree in that aspect. Allegri is the clear fave in that regard for me, let him lay the foundations for a few years then Paddy, Arteta, Nagelsmann et al can turn up and have a proper basis to work from.

    I’m not convinced any of those (except maybe Nagelsmann) have the full ticket we need atm.

  78. Jamie

    Pedro –

    “Not sure where the club would go… but CL is an absolute priority because we’ve spent all the money”

    I completely agree, I’m sure everyone else here does too.

    Either way, Emery should be shown out this summer. He gets a nice pat on the back, or kicked out on his ass. Fine margins.

    You’d take Allegri over, say Vieira? Allegri has more pedigree, no doubt, but there’s something about Vieira. I’d love to give him a shot.

  79. Pedro

    Jose was crying on a video that he missed the game, and my guess is you have no insight into what he’d sign up for (not really a guess tbf).

    Arsenal fans need Pep football, but if we’re going pragmatic, let’s see the best version possible. We don’t get solid defence, we don’t get elite attacking football, we get a drunk mess that eventually falls apart.

  80. Un na naai

    Also good luck seeing better attacking performances from Jose fucking Mourinho

    Hahahaha
    If we are going to be set up defensively then surely it would be better to actually defend well, play as a unit and utilise our pact forwards on the counter attack to greater effect? All of which mourinho is capable of delivering. As is allegri. All while delivering a winning mentality

  81. Pedro

    Jamie, in hindsight, the miss was Conte. If the club was looking for ruthless discipline and a system (fast), he was the one and he was sniffing around (£14m a year though).

    I would still prefer a coach that could give us elite football, but Allegri has shown more than enough as a coach of a top coach Italian club that he could do it for us. He’d at least get the basics in faster than Emery and we’d know what the drill was.

    We don’t know the brief though. Doubt it’s going to be an innovative young coach.

  82. Un na naai

    Arsenal fans need Pep football, but if we’re going pragmatic, let’s see the best version possible. We don’t get solid defence, we don’t get elite attacking football, we get a drunk mess that eventually falls apart.

    Exactly. Whilst tidying up a gaping hole of midfield

  83. Valentin

    ManUtd are just bad. A lot of people criticises Pogba, but without him bar Daniel James they have absolutely no creativity.

  84. Marko

    Really? “3/4/5”? Go ahead and name the 5 performances we’ve bossed specifically because of no Xhaka.

    I meant clearly we can get by with one or two certain types in there meaning despite Mustafi playing we still had two of our best performances. Charles any idea why we look better when Xhaka, AMN, Kolasinac and Sokratis aren’t playing? In defensive positions in Niles case. Any idea why? Answers on a postcard please

  85. Pierre

    Anyone else nearly dropping off to sleep in that 2nd half .

    I know I’m getting on a bit and I had just finished a round of golf in 25mph winds and rain,
    but for me to nearly drop off watching an Arsenal match is a new experience for me .

  86. Un na naai

    Pierre

    Are you kidding me?? We ship guilt edged chances so frequently in need a Valium after every league match

  87. Jamie

    Pedro –

    Conte was a big miss for sure. So was Klopp, and Pep before him if there was any truth to the stories a few years ago.

    Things could’ve been so different. Emery is vanilla, unfortunately.

    I think Allegri will go to Utd, but hopefully not before top 4 is out of reach for them this season. OGS is a train wreck, so they could be out of the running by January.

    Any thoughts on why Spurs are struggling?

  88. Marko

    This group are you young and need grounding by someone with pedigree in that aspect. Allegri is the clear fave in that regard for me, let him lay the foundations for a few years then Paddy, Arteta, Nagelsmann et al can turn up and have a proper basis to work from

    Again it’s the consistency I like. Someone with pedigree who can lay foundations. We’ll just forget about all the times you were making a case for going with Arteta. Love it mate love the honesty

  89. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    We played better football with worse players under Wenger, trying to play squad poverty at this point is embarrassing.

    Even so, you could indulge that fact for argument sake and still the £6 mil a year manager should be able to venture inside his magic hat and conjure up a better band aid than what we see until Bellerin and Tierney….aka Cafu and Carlos by the sounds of it….get back to full fitness.

    We hired a guy that before PSG, never fathomed winning a domestic league. That’s who we have trying to navigate this bunch up the table. It’s like throwing a Rubik’s cube on the sunshine bus and wondering why the well natured effort didn’t yield the desired result.

  90. G8

    Jamie you are ofcourse right ,sexy football Norwich are in the zone,
    The PL at the moment is so unpredictable,
    Anybody can beat anybody, only the dippers who are showing consistency

  91. Un na naai

    Lol

    Allegri and Jose – men who almost guarantee results.

    Arteta, Vieira, Nagglesman- men who bring an exciting flavour and ideas

    Emery. A man who offers neither. Only appalling performances which hinge entirely on the performances of Aubameyang and lacazette.

  92. Valentin

    If Mourinho is on a short term contract like until the end of the season he would behave. No starting a fight to buy new players, no picking public controversies to get his way. Based in London he would have an happy settled family life, so I can see him concentrating on football.

    The football may be boring, but not necessarily worse than what is currently served. However the result in all likelihood would be better.

  93. Champagne charlie

    “Again it’s the consistency I like. Someone with pedigree who can lay foundations. We’ll just forget about all the times you were making a case for going with Arteta. Love it mate love the honesty“

    Given Allegri was unashamedly my number one choice post-Wenger I’d say the only consistent part here is your commitment to getting shit wrong.

    Plus, newsflash, but two years after that summer we’re a different situation entirely. That shouldn’t need explained to anyone….outside the obvious…

  94. Jamie

    Lads, the only time Mourinho ever played sexy football was vs Wenger.

    He’s anti-football. A big fat ‘no’. There are better unemployed managers.

  95. Marko

    Jose was crying on a video that he missed the game, and my guess is you have no insight into what he’d sign up for (not really a guess tbf).

    You’d be a fool if you think someone like Mourinho would accept a one year deal anywhere. It’s a dream scenario where at the end of it Pedro you get the appointment that you want. Wake up I say. We sack Emery right now (which is not ever going to happen) and any long term planning on who the next Arsenal manager is is likely out the window. We’re down to Marcelino, Allegri (unlikely) or Jose. Unless you want to go with Freddie for a season but I don’t imagine that’s a good idea we could easily go from 3rd to 6th quickly.

    As much as I’m counting down the days until a new manager arrives the sheer stupidity and precedent that comes with sacking someone who has one defeat on the season and sitting in third is not worth it. Sets up the next guy with a ridiculously big unrealistic expectation giving our standing in the game the last decade or so.

  96. Pedro

    Marko, dim people like consistency because it’s easy to follow. Reality is, information changes with the flow of time and so should opinions. That’s how the world works. Opinion writing and analysis is only interesting if the current facts are mapped against the past and the future (potential).

    Arteta would have been a bold/innovative choice and I have no doubt we’d be watching great football under a club that was progressing. My opinion. Take it or leave it, it can’t be proven, even if he fails somewhere else.

    What we landed was a bland manager that hasn’t moved us forward. That was also my opinion and it’s playing out. Your opinion on Emery has been consistent in the face of clear evidence, which is what you like, but it hasn’t showered you in much glory or authority when it comes to football.

  97. Receding Hairline

    Valentin we have lost one game all season against Liverpool. The entitlement mentality to feel that points dropped away to Watford and united or at home to spurs in a derby are unforgivable results is appalling.

  98. Pierre

    Ruth
    “PierreMake your mind up.. Winning ugly or stylishy losing”

    Neither….it is what it is , gives me a chance to have a nap on a sunday afternoon though.

  99. Receding Hairline

    Wonder why no one else has gone for this innovation… I like how you have covered yourself with “even if he fails elsewhere”. Seems Arteta is only destined to be a top coach for arsenal and no one else.

  100. Un na naai

    Jamie

    His first two years at chelsea we’re pretty spectacular going forward.

    At Madrid he set a record for most points in la liga and most goals scored with 121

    Hardly negative

    It’s a semi myth. Yes his football can be functional at time rather than wengaball but we are a long way from that now under emery and 121 goals doesn’t sound too appealing to me

  101. salparadisenyc

    If Emery shits the bed and it looks like he may not hit the top four i’d be all for having Freddy see out the season. Based on work he’s done with youth, coupled with players clear love of him it could be enough to get him over the line, he has the spark. Then club could assess in summer.

    That said league in such disarray this season it would take something seriously shambolic for Emery to not hit the four target with weaponry at his disposal. Then Raul must pull the “Bruce Rioja” and find the future.

  102. Pedro

    … and again, Marko, I didn’t anyone to sack Emery today.

    You’re arguing a point that I didn’t make in the post you didn’t read.

  103. Marko

    We played better football with worse players under Wenger, trying to play squad poverty at this point is embarrassing.

    Nothing to do with squad poverty I’m saying that it’s a fucking lie this notion that we played anything remotely resembling good football on a consistent basis under Wenger. For years it was shite bland crab football. This agenda being pushed that all of a sudden we’re playing shit football is nonsense we’ve been shit for years. Might be different levels or different shades of shit but shit is shit. Let’s not start reimagining things under Wenger let’s not go there. I’ll bring out the scrotum comment I’ll do it

  104. Paulinho

    “I know it’s childish, but full-blown meltdown on redcafe.net”

    Always good read.

    “Sack Moyes our football is shit”

    “Sack Van Gaal our football is shit”

    “Sack Mourinho our football is shit”

    Now it’s the same with Solskjaer

    Only consistent thing is signing average player after average player, and surprise surprise, getting average football.

  105. Marko

    You’re arguing a point that I didn’t make in the post you didn’t read.

    And there it is. My original question answered though I think the comment was deleted. It does seem like you’re making a case for sacking him but my mistake if I’m wrong. Clearly you can wait until the end of the season for him to go

  106. Leedsgunner

    Good win, but we are winning and drawing despite Emery instead of him.

    It is clear it is more important to Emery to do well in cup competitions than in the EPL.

    I cannot understand how Newcastle was able to beat Man United and we were unable to… shame that Emery lacks a spirit of adventure whatsoever in the EPL… because even a smidgen of adventure we would have beaten Man United.

  107. Un na naai

    We sack Emery right now (which is not ever going to happen) and any long term planning on who the next Arsenal manager is is likely out the window. We’re down to Marcelino, Allegri (unlikely) or Jose. Unless you want to go with Freddie for a season but I don’t imagine that’s a good idea we could easily go from 3rd to 6th quickly.

    Marko
    Not even remotely true
    Liverpool sacked Rodgers around this time and snagged klopp. Allegri and Jose both available right now. Arteta would walk from City to come to arsenal.
    Freddie could take over until May when vieira or nagglesman could join. Why persevere with a sinking ship? We are getting away with it for now.

    Do you really see us turning the corner and dominating matches any time soon? Like Emery’s master plan is going to kick in any day now? That xakha at the base of our midfield is going to become the answer over night despite what our eyes tell us?

  108. LeMassiveCoq

    Went to the Emirates today for the first time in a while, mainly because it was a nice kick off time to take my little lad.

    Won’t be rushing back again. There is some good individual talent in the squad but they are running around like headless chickens in defence and midfield. It seems we have quickly switched (or Leno has made the decision on his own..) from playing it out from the back but with no alternative, other than tryng to lash it up the pitch to our wide men or Auba to try and win in the air. Saka and Pepe drove it forward a few times in the first half but with little effect. Crosses, passes into the box were poor and there seemed to be little threat from Xhaka, Guen and Ceballos following up behind Auba. We scored from a set piece for once which settled all the fans down into a feeling it might be an easy win.. Nooo.
    I’d said to my boy we would enjoy the second half more as we were sat high up in the North Bank, so we could watch Arsenal bombarding the Bournemouth goal.
    We were fucking dross in the second half. Eddie Howe at least had some sort of plan by stopping our fullbacks getting down the wings and pressing higher. What did Emery do tactically? Fuck all. He made a few questionable, like for like subs which did not change or improve our shape. Aubameyang was left chasing after the ball like a dog with a stick for most of the second half. We could still see the shambolic defending well from the other end of the stadium.

    On Xhaka. Much dislike from the fans around me. Most of them asking the ref to book him so he could fulfil his 5 yellow card, 1 game ban. The bloke next me said at one point, ‘look theres a massive fucking space in mid-field’. Meanwhile (this is while we are attacking, Xhaka was the last man back in our own half. The decision to make this lazy, accident prone, slow, non-influential player the club captain confirms to me that Emery is utterly clueless.

    Oh well, at least we won.