Should have been Hector

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Well good morning. ALLEGEDLY, all is not well over at Spurs. I have sourced expert information from Twitter nobodies that suggests the Spurs camp is going through a very similar episode to the JT and Wayne Bridge saga from way back when.

Very amusing. No wonder they all look so miserable.

Hector Bellerin has been talking to The Guardian about how he’s so fucking woke these days, he actually gets offended by the things people could potentially say.

‘Pete, I’m really angry that at any point, you could say something awful that could upset someone’

‘But Hector, I didn’t say a thing?’

‘Pete, beyond the point. You ‘could’ (air quotes) say something offensive, so how can we be friends?’

Love that guy. Bit gutted he hates me in my imaginary construct.

He did let the mask slip though. He’s out here telling the world that competitive sport isn’t an alpha male endeavour, two paragraphs later, he’s heading out to a Ricky G show… a man who savaged disabled kids on a TV special way back when (Listen to this Sam Harris/Gervais pod, it’s great).

What we say on Twitter vs what we think in real life… that’s the next pivot in culture kids, the people are coming for over-wokeness and I can’t wait. Unai Emery will hopefully stop telling everyone that ‘defensive midfield is a social construct’ and we’ll have LT sitting at the base of midfield. Good times.

I do genuinely love Hector. I think he’s the modern-day superstar. He doesn’t care what people think. He’s a top athlete. He never gets caught up in anything obscene (bar some occasional fashion mishaps). I have to say, for me, he was the logical choice for the armband if the alternative was Xhaka.

He’s 100% a starter every game, he’s mostly always fit, he gives his all, and the fans universally adore him… bar a few of the ‘LEAVE MEANS LEAVE’ brigade who are still salty Jenks took his marching orders.

I do need to make a correction, I stated yesterday that I found it odd that Emery dodged the 5 captain thing. Apparently, I was incorrect. He did it. He still managed to fuck it up.

HE PUT MESUT ON THE LIST.

I was with my Arsenal friend earlier today and I couldn’t fathom the decision.

MESUT IS ON THE LIST.

That’s a bit like The Guardian making Milo their Chief Editor. Bernie Sanders making an exGoldman Sachs exec his VP running partner. Batman bringing in the Joker to run R&D at his Batcave.

A player the coach hates. Someone the club tried to move on all summer. Someone that can’t even make 90 minutes against Forest in the Carling Cup. A player that takes sick days to escape away days. Someone that can’t press, defend or turn up for big games. A player so bored of life, he’s basically a professional gamer.

Quite incredible.

Why do it?

Is it a troll? If so, that’s childish.

Is it an olive branch…?

‘Please don’t say mean things to the others about me’

Or is it just another bad decision that reeks of cuckness?

Most of the problems Emery has this season are of his own making, but at the core of it, the squad he has this year is much better. A great result against United this week will go a long way to restoring some faith in the Spaniard, then we’re off on a run of some very easy games. He should deliver enough good results to have everyone prematurely questioning whether people like me have prematurely judged him too early by December 12th.

The thing we have be careful of is 1) Spurs will bounce back 2) I think Frank Lampard is building something strong at Chelsea that might come good this season 3) ‘sacked in the morning’ might happen, and United might finally stumble upon a good manager.

We’ll see.

Short one today, see you in the comments. x

P.S. Get in the mood for the United game with this excellent podcast from the Mundial chaps.

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Rambo Ramsey

Dissenter,

Lets try that again.

Even if I swallowed a Stick while eating, how would it go up my nose?

Goonah

RR

You have your nose up your ass? 🙂

Goonah

sry *arse

RodneyKing

Jamal Lascelles laying it into his teammates – “It’s not down to the manager… No matter who the manager is, you’re going to have to the basics of what you’re taught. Don’t get one-two’ed, win your battles…”. Not word-for-word, mind you. It’s good to hear a captain talking like a captain, unlike the “Scared One”. The manger can’t legislate for individual errors, players getting sent off or scoring an own goal. The manager’s job is tough but it’s made easier when he/she has players of the right calibre. I caught a glimpse of Welbeck in the Wolves vs Watford game… Read more »

Rambo Ramsey

Goonah,

This is a serious matter, my man.

Eating could give you brain damage..! All of us gotta learn more about this and watch what we put into our mouths.

RodneyKing

….you’re going to have to do the basics….

Dissenter

Rambo stupid stil beating himself up silly wondering how a kebab stick can find its way into his brain?

Rambo Ramsey

Dissenter goes to a restraunt with his kid, who chokes on his food while eating hurriedly. Daddy starts banging his son on the head shouting ‘Hang on son, I’ll get it out’.

Dissenter

CC
You still don’t think that Leicester have a good chance of top-4 in this strange season where only Liverpool and City are guaranteed of coming 1st/2nd [in no particular order]?

Chelsea – transfer ban – in-experienced manager
Arsenal – Emery – you know the rest, fill in the blanks
United- Ole, Ole, Ole.
Spurs – Poch’s decline has lasted too long to just be a phase. They have too many contract hold-outs who will leave foe free next summer, somethings not right there.

Dissenter

Rambo
Perseveration is one of the subtle signs of the lobotomized. Go read a book or something.

Ishola70

Valentin “Leicester may hit a glass ceiling, because take Vardy out of that team and you have a good team, but not a top 4 team.” Someone on here was asking about Leicester’s squad strength. What if Aubameyang goes down with injury for a notable period? Sure there is Lacazette to cover but not quite as prolific a goalscorer as Aubameyang even though he may have better qualities as an all round player. We know that Emery isn’t much interested in defence so there is a real reliance on the forwards just like last season. As Dissenter alluded to it… Read more »

RodneyKing

“If Arteta were willing to leave next summer, I wonder if Edu would consider him.”

Willing to leave or asked to leave? Either way, I hope Edu and co think better of it. If Man City can’t trust Arteta to take over after Guardiola, a more illustrious club like Arsenal shouldn’t be considering him.

But don’t lose hope for Arteta just yet. Everton may be needing a new manager soon. There are rumors of Silva’s former club wanting him back. He may even get sacked if results don’t improve.

Rambo Ramsey

Books? Pfft.

I prefer interacting and learning off of subjects.

Twas why I took up the subject of brain damage keenly with you.

Rambo Ramsey

All this hype over someone unproven.

Everton can have Arteta.

That’ll be crisis averted for us, thank fvck.

Valentin

RodneyKing, I was never an Arteta Uber fan, but I still think (maybe irrationally) that he would have been a better appointment than Emery. If VanBrockhorst were to be named as Pep successor, getting rid of Arteta would be a mistake. VanBrockhorst is currently learning about ManCity, so that there is continuity when Pep decide to go back to Spain for a well deserved sabbatical. Moyes replaced all ManUtd staff in order to stamp his authority. That did not go so well. ManCity can’t afford to make the same mistake. When Pep leaves, some of his staff need to stay… Read more »

Graham62

Leicester will finish top 4.

Graham62

I would take Eddie Howe ahead of Arteta.

What has Arteta done?

Talk Spanish on the bench with Pep?

Manage one game, which he lost.

What is this fixation with Arteta?

Arsenal connection?

Because he’s under Pep, does that make him Pep Mark 2?

I don’t get it.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Pedro / Peter
Don’t disagree with you. But xhara is captain an we have to accept that, by some small miracle you never know…

Champagne charlie

Dissenter

No, no I don’t. Based on what? Speculation? They’re not at the level of the top 6.

Thorough

My team for tomorrow:
Leno
Chambers Holding Luiz Tierney
Torr
Guendozi. Ceballos
Pepe. Auba. Saka/Martinelli

Valentin

We could do with Ramsey in the squad instead of our captain.
When you think that some doubted his talent and that Sarri would play or find a place for him in his team.

Maurizio Sarri has been religiously playing a 4-3-3 for the last 4 years without fail – until he comes across Aaron Ramsey. Now, he changes his entire tactical set-up to suit the Welshman. Makes you think… 🤔

https://twitter.com/mahithgamage/status/1178027898684559360?s=19

Graham62

Pedro

I get all of that but it still doesn’t answer my question.

Arteta was lauded in advance of Emery arriving at the club.

What has he done to deserve such high recognition?

PS: There’s no chance it will be Jose.

Valentin

Ishola70, First two places in the premiership are already sealed. 3rd and 4th are up for grabs. Chelsea, despite having an inexperienced manager have enough players with experience to dig them out of the hole. They will concede goals but they will score enough to be able to get top 4. Spurs mini crisis may already be over. With Kane, Son, Ericksen, NDombele they will swat enough teams to finish in the top 4. I still think over the course of the season, Leicester will not have enough to displace Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal (if Emery pull his fingers out), and… Read more »

Marko

kept sexy football and built an experienced backroom team around elite ideas

As has been said a hundred times before there’s absolutely nothing to suggest that Arteta was capable of doing any of those things. I’ll happily hold my hands up and admit being wrong if someone right now can prove that Arteta would have had us playing sexy football and he would have brought elite ideas that one for sure I’d be interested in seeing.

Graham62

Thorough

I like your team.

Marko

Juve have been playing a two up top with one behind formation for years it has nothing to do with Ramsey.

Dissenter

Valentin
When United supposed injuries are over, who scores their goals?

Paulinho

Dissenter – Marcus Rashford of course. He’s great, isn’t he?

Marko

Marko, you couldn’t even hold your hands up when Emery admitted to breaking Ramsey after you scoffed at the suggestion.

He didn’t admit to such a thing. Are you alright.

you’d still maintain you were right about his elite capabilities.

I’ve never mentioned Emery and elite in the same sentence before in my life. You’re on a roll tonight. Classic whataboutism right there I ask for some Arteta proof and the response is all about Emery. 🤔

Gentlebris

On the contrary Pedro, I really hope it’s Jose.

Graham62

Pedro

A download?

So your basing everything on a download.

It’s come to that. Hiring a manager based on computer data.

Marvellous!

Graham62

I’m always telling my daughter, who’s just turned 21, don’t believe everything you read on the Internet.

Did you get the same download info for Ivan Gazidis?

Just wandering.

Bojangles

Arguments about what manager we should have appointed are pointless. Emery, for better or worse, is what The Arsenal have to deal with now.

We can argue about who will replace Emery at the appropriate time, hopefully sooner rather than later.

Marko

You were taken down by Emery badly, now you are asking if we can prove something unprovable as a way to prove you are rational. If you can’t prove something if it is in fact unprovable then why say it? Even now again you say that he’d have playing sexy football without a shred of anything to back it up. And I dunno how I was taken down by Emery. Again at the risk of getting a pointless ban he was not responsible for overworking an injury prone player and he never admitted as such. As I proved Ramsey was… Read more »

Gentlebris

‘PS: There’s no chance it will be Jose.’

Based on what exactly, Graham?

Champagne charlie

Someone can have elite ideas without yet implementing them as “proof” of said ideas. It’s literally the definition of an idea. You’re asking Pedro to prove his own belief because you discount everything associated to potential and live in the ‘he hasn’t done it yet’ realm. Others are more open minded and recognised the unique opportunity that moment presented. Quite something that approaching 18 months of pure wank and you’re still so defiant at the mere possibilities of another person in charge way back when. Suggest you take a pointed hat and find a corner of a room, and no,… Read more »

Marko

because you discount everything associated to potential and live in the ‘he hasn’t done it yet’ realm

Literally the definition of potential is “having or showing the capacity to develop into something in the future”. Key words being having or showing. He has neither hence it can’t be proven so why say it?

Champagne charlie

Marko

So Arteta doesn’t “have” managerial potential?

That seems to fly in the face of the industry professionals at Man City, the ones at Arsenal who wanted him to stay, and the ones at Spurs. Have you already penned that email setting the record straight? I’d get right on that.

As I said, you don’t understand potential as a concept….clearly. You’re literally that guy who sees Arteta go off to another club, do well, and go ‘oh I’d have him now’. Except you wouldn’t do that either, pesky character flaws and all that.

Marko

My shreds of evidence come from contacts.

So your contacts go as far as Manchester now. Besides the point it’s still just words from a guy that you’re basing your whole Arteta believe system around. They could just as easily tell you that he’s the worlds greatest drag queen and you’d believe it without so much as a doubt. Well if it’s alright with you I’ll remain highly dubious of the manager with elite ideas and sexy football who’s never managed before in his life. Strange as I am

Marko

So Arteta doesn’t “have” managerial potential? No one knows if he has managerial potential until he actually manages somewhere. Take Gary Neville for example. Now prior to Valencia people would have actually believed that he had managerial potential. Post Valencia do you think anyone speaks of his managerial potential anymore? Exactly. Besides the point no one’s talking about his potential it’s more this nonsense about Arteta would have us playing sexy football and he’s got elite ideas don’t cha know. Bullshit unless someone’s got a palantir there’s no way of proving any of it. I would love to know what… Read more »

Marko

Amazing you think that you have an argument on potential when Pep has him sitting next to him after back to back EPL wins.

Brian Kidd too. Had Torrent too by his side through the success at Barcelona and Bayern too.

Listen Pedro next time you’re speaking to those contacts ask them about those elite ideas. And while you’re at it ask them why someone so highly rated/recommended/ready is still just an assistant and hasn’t been approached by a single club since NOT getting the Arsenal job.

Champagne charlie

Marko

You couldn’t rattle off the remit Emery has as manager, so trying to unpack what Arteta does on the day to day isn’t something I’m going to walk you down.

But sufficed to say, it’ll be rather similar to managing a side proper. The ‘potential’ then comes from the many folk well versed in whether a guy has what it takes to be alpha, and all suggest he’s got the goods.

Marko

CC is right, you actually don’t understand what potential means.

Then help me understand how he would have brought sexy football and elite ideas. I’m still waiting for that.

Champagne charlie

“ask them why someone so highly rated/recommended/ready is still just an assistant and hasn’t been approached by a single club since NOT getting the Arsenal job.“

Suppose all should just take your word for it that he’s not been approached?

Also, imagine thinking being among the last candidates for the Arsenal job as your first managerial gig is something to scoff at.

‘Remember when you were headhunted for an elite managerial role at a massive multimillion pound European football club with no experience on your CV, and didn’t get it? Ha burn’

Marko

You couldn’t rattle off the remit Emery has as manager, so trying to unpack what Arteta does on the day to day isn’t something I’m going to walk you down. That’s convenient isn’t it. Asking someone to prove even the slightest bit of anything to a frankly hypothetical statement and it isn’t something you’re going to do. Is it because you don’t know what you’re talking about that you in fact cannot prove that he would have been a better appointment or that he would have had us playing sexy football or what his elite ideas are. But sufficed to… Read more »

Bojangles

Not sure of your argument that because Arteta has sat next to Pep for a couple of years it proves he has potential. Does it follow all assistants have potential or is it just the case for Arteta.

I’m sure Arteta has some potential as a manager. I’m not sure a team like Arsenal should be hiring a manager on potential alone though.

Champagne charlie

“Is it because you don’t know what you’re talking about that you in fact cannot prove that he would have been a better appointment or that he would have had us playing sexy football or what his elite ideas are.“

I don’t know what I’m talking about because I can’t prove to you an unprovable, hypothetical situation? Absolute belter of a comment.

Marko

Suppose all should just take your word for it that he’s not been approached? Something would have been heard and you know it. Also, imagine thinking being among the last candidates for the Arsenal job as your first managerial gig is something to scoff at. I mean it is if someone so highly rated with such lofty potential and elite everything was beaten out by the gormless Emery. Also last candidates…it was like 3 guys you make it sound like it was a great achievement or example of his potential that he was in the 3 candidates interviewed for the… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Bojangles

Arsenal hired experience and a “proven track record” in Emery. I think dismissing the route of potential on principles sake is a bit foolhardy.

Heaven forbid we back a guy whose trajectory sky rockets. Much better we amble along in complete mediocrity and sleep comfortably that our gaffer has won the EL three times in a row. That’ll come in handy for the next EL final we face…..wait a minute, ignore that.

Champagne charlie

“Also last candidates…it was like 3 guys you make it sound like it was a great achievement or example of his potential that he was in the 3 candidates interviewed for the position. Which he didn’t get.“

This is painful reading. Can surmise you’ve never been near a management role? Consideration for such positions are first and foremost a recognition of your credentials.

Sounds like you think Mikel dropped off a print out of his CV to Trisha at reception and he got an email saying ‘thanks for your interest but we’ve decided to go another way’.

Marko

Marko, even as a total basic here, you think that Arteta, a La Masia export with 2 years under Pep is a secret Emeryball merchant? La masia export 😆 he’s got more Everton or rangers in him than Barcelona stop that nonsense right now. No idea about his football he could actually have his own brand of football and it’s called Artetaball and it could be horrific. Point is I don’t know if it’s sexy or not and either do you You think he was in the running for the job because the club thought the sauce he was bringing… Read more »

Marko

Also Pedro there’s a difference between you saying that he likes sexy football and you saying that he would have had us playing sexy football.

Marko

That clear enough?

Pretty clear. Now Pedro throw up some stats and/or YouTube videos there of Arteta’s sexy saucy football there. From what I can tell you tried to prove how sexy his football would have been by a few words by the man himself.

All this could have been avoided had you said something like imo or I believe or I think instead of he would have and he has.

Marko

Pedro I dunno why you keep bringing up Emery when discussing Arteta. If you have to bring him up to try and prop up your argument for Arteta then your argument is pretty weak.

Marko

just helping you with the basics.

😂 Haven’t helped me with shit. Nothing but faff and hot air when it comes to Arteta. Zero substance to the argument going on nearly two years now. Feel like you’re ahead of the curve all you like but until he actually manages somewhere anywhere then his sexy saucy football is imaginary

Dissenter

Pedro Are you aware besides the late Tito Vilanova, every single one of Pep Guardiola’s assistants haven’t gone on to have exemplary careers as head coaches. Tito did well because he took over a team of Messi, Xavi and Iniesta, nothing to do with Pep’s glorious sauce. Marko is arguing from a position of gumption. Arteta can stay as assistant for as long as he wants, his head coaching bonafides is still closer to zero. You really believed city will commit the basic error of letting Pep chose his successor? They will send Arteta to NYC like they did to… Read more »

Marko

Now quotes aren’t enough? This feels a familiar path.

We’re going in circles here. No Mikel Arteta talking about the sexy football isn’t an example of sexy football. It’s like Emery and his protagonist shite it’s just words until you see it on the field of play.

Look I’m still not convinced tell me about your contacts again and put elite and some other word in a sentence and that should be enough to convert me. Either that or I’ll have to wait and see how he does at Newcastle or Girona

Valentin

Definition of insanity repeating the same thing and expect a different result. Why do people keep trying to reason with Marko. He does not believe in coaching. It is always the player’s fault. He does not believe in the concept of potential. You can can only know if somebody will fullfil their potential after you have given an opportunity to do so. Until then you cannot prove it one way or another. He only believe in things that have been, so success or failure can be proven. Black or white. No shade of grey with multiple state. Imagine if Marko… Read more »

Champagne charlie
Marko

We’re in a thread where two people have had to call you out on not understanding what potential means. Is that what happened? Now you’re saying there’s no evidence of what Arteta’s football would be, despite explicit quotes…. It’s fucking words Pedro. Words. If we’re allowing ourselves to just take people at their word in this day and age then what’s the fucking point. So Arteta says sexy football therefore it would have been sexy football I mean he said it how could it not be. Emery says that we would be protagonists so obviously we’re protagonists right because he… Read more »

Valentin

Pedro,

So the cat is dead…

Champagne charlie

No the cat just puts the cones out..

Marko

Charles you’ll have to tell me how I’m considered a flat earther despite asking for evidence beyond words and hypotheticals when it comes to senor Arteta. I think in this scenario you and Pedro are the flat earthers because you’re believing something without factual evidence and believe in something that technically speaking doesn’t exist. Arteta as a saucy manager who plays sexy football and has elite ideas despite never managing a football team. Oh be careful you’ll fall off that edge

Valentin

In his career, Emery’s team have never played sexy football. In his last three jobs when he took over he did not improve the defense. So the evidence is clear that if the selection is on those criteria , Emery would not qualify as bar a miracle there is no POTENTIAL uplift. On the other hand, if Arteta had been named. As we have no concrete information one way or another except his vision to do it, there is POTENTIAL. He may fail, but we have not yet concrete proof that he had failed in his previous attempt. Potential means… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Marko

You’re throwing out all evidence of his potential as a manager, and claiming he doesn’t have any until he proves he has some (quite the comment).

So no, very much you dismissing the realities at play here. You’ve belittled his final stage interviewing, ignored views of professionals at City, Spurs and Arsenal, refused Arteta’s own personal declarations on his footballing vision, yet claimed *without evidence* that he’s never been approached for a job outside of his current role.

You’re Ryvita levels of flat.

Marko

You can can only know if somebody will fullfil their potential after you have given an opportunity to do so. Until then you cannot prove it one way or another. Or at least shown their potential. There’s a reason why Messi was signed after 6 years at Newells old boys or Ronaldo after a few years at Sporting Lisbon and neither was signed straight off their mammies tit it’s because you have to be able to see potential. You can’t just take someone’s word for it. Take you for example Val when you said a while back that Steve Rowley… Read more »

Marko

You’re throwing out all evidence of his potential as a manager

Evidence? Where?

Champagne charlie

“There’s a reason why Messi was signed after 6 years at Newells old boys or Ronaldo after a few years at Sporting Lisbon“

Or like when Arteta was signed by Man City as a coach immediately after his playing contract expired, with Arsenal and Spurs also vying for his signature.

Bojangles

Charlie Chuckles

Thank you for your input but to be honest I am not interested in your thoughts on my opinions. So please, kindly direct your somewhat pompous, sometimes snide comments at those that that are more agreeable to accepting them. There are more than enough willing recipients to keep even you satisfied.

In the meantime I’ll happily scroll past your comments, as I did CG’s which will make for a more interesting and entertaining experience here at LG.

Marko

Marko, you just said words don’t matter.Just like evidence to flat-earthers. Oh my god what is actually happening here. In this instance words aren’t evidence. Lemme give you an example I’m you right I’m Pedro “here lads Arteta would have us playing sexy football and he’s got elite ideas”. That’s not evidence or proof. There’s actually plenty of evidence that the earth isn’t flat it’s easily been proven. What has yet to be proven is that Arteta would have been a better appointment, that he would have us playing sexy football right now or that he has elite ideas. That… Read more »

Valentin

Marko, I said that I was told that Steve Rowley was back and that was possible because we had used before as an external consultant. You said it was not true and that Arsenal never used external consultant. I then have you a link to Arsenal.com proving that when he left, he signed a contract as an external consultant. You then dismissed the link. The same way you dismissed Patrick Viera’s word taken verbatim from his autobiography because that did not fit your narrative. You are the flat-earther who will refuse to consider any evidence that could refute your belief.… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“Evidence? Where?“ Precisely. It takes someone with a clue about coaching to understand how being a coach and a manager relate. It’s as if there’s a degree of carryover in the day to day aspects associated with each role. Then again you’ve never been able to divulge exactly what you think the managerial remit is so god knows what you think a coach does at a football club. Probably genuinely believe in the cones out mantra. How about that for a thought, Arteta pits the cones out and then bags an interview for manager at Arsenal FC after printing off… Read more »

Marko

Or like when Arteta was signed by Man City as a coach immediately after his playing contract expired

Yeah where’s the example of potential? There’s a difference between kids playing football showing their potential to be footballers growing up and eh an assistant showing his ability to manage by not being a manager.

Again just to tie up this pointless argument I remind people of Gary Neville who prior to Valencia and becoming a manager was highly rated and is he still highly rated? Exactly

Champagne charlie

Bojangles

Left it all on the table there, “pompous” and snide” you say, in amongst your own pompous and snide comment…. slow clap for you

Marko

I said that I was told that Steve Rowley was back and that was possible because we had used before as an external consultant. You said it was not true and that Arsenal never used external consultant. Liars gonna lie. You said he was back as a statement. You only brought up the consultant thing when you were found out to be lying. Quite a stupid thing originally to state because Steve Rowley being back at Arsenal would be news worthy people would have heard about that. I also never said anything about Arsenal never using external consultants again another… Read more »

Marko

How about that for a thought, Arteta pits the cones out and then bags an interview for manager at Arsenal FC after printing off his CV and giving it to Trish at reception. Bet that’s how all the elite companies operate Again you lot do this thing where you prop up the idea of Arteta being a saucy manager by bringing up the time he interviewed for the Arsenal job even though he lost out to gormless Emery. Not the ringing endorsement you think it is. And it’s the only job he’s interviewed for. Weird that. And before you ask… Read more »

Valentin

You really don’t understand the concept of potential. That is the definition of potential: a collection of clues indicating possibility of success. The clues: good man-management skills when captain of Arsenal. Good inter-personal skills with clubs upper management. Good tactical understanding as mentioned by Pep Ability to organise progressive training session appreciated by players. Interview given by ManCity players. It is just impossible to prove that Arteta would be a good manager until he has been a manager. However it was easy to prove that Emery was an average/second tier manager. He was selected only because he was viewed as… Read more »

Valentin

Marko,

The internet does not lie.
Go back and check my initial comment and your own comment.
You repeated your own lie so many time, that you finished to convince yourself.

Valentin

“And before you ask you would have heard something about him being interviewed or targeted for a managers job.”

Where have you been lately, Arteta was approached for the Newcastle job, he turned it down. It was in every newapaper. He confirmed it in an interview a few weeks ago.
Same thing he was also approached for the Lyon job, before Juninho the new DoF decided to call his old pal Sylvinho who may not last past the season.

China1

People are not saying words don’t mean anything, they’re saying that actions and records speak much louder than words – obviously When you make big decisions you tend to do it based on more than just words but also achievements/records etc Circa 2002 there was some hot talk of a future world star on the brink of signing for Madrid. Ferguson has never seen him actually play football but this talk was enough for his gamble so he signs bebe. Good call? Manager is the most important role in the club. If clubs want to gamble on entirely unproven potential… Read more »