4 areas of improvement that will guarantee trophies

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I’ve spent the last year getting hammered by you lot in the comments section for my rational disdain for our manager, now things are clicking for people, I’m being told that I have not had a consistent view on Emery. ARE YOU KIDDING ME! Someone was so angry they called me a melon shagger. Even our trolls are Waitrose levels of middle-class.

‘Pedro, you’re the sort of guy that secures the bottom button on a waistcoat. I bet you take Aldi’s ‘wine of the month’ to dinner parties and start a conversation piece about how the sommelier game is one giant margin driven ruse. You probably think Barolo plays as a wingback for Brescia, you ingrate bespawler’

I’ve had it with the internet.

I watched the horror show of Watford back again. I liken it to clicking a Whatsapp group chat video from your mates that are builders. Always deeply regrettable.

A few things stood out that could be fairly quick fixes.

Topline, massively oversimplified, but here goes.

Speed:

We are very slow. Did you own a Nintendo Wii with the tennis game back in the day? Did you ever give it to your Grandma to have a crack? When I watch us play out the back, that’s what we look like. We take an age to set up perfectly. Then we missile the control pad into the Baccarat Crystal and Bronze D’Ore Chandelier. Amirite, trolls?!

We transition the ball in a very one dimensional way. It’s almost too choreographed to work. We have good players, so the system will always create goals, but I’m not we’re optimising our approach. This squad, with the right system, should be delivering 90 goals.

We need more urgency in our build-up, we need to move the ball with more purpose, and we need to mix things up so it’s not easy to counter.

Variety:

We are easy to set up against because we do the same thing over and over. We shit the bed in the first half when Matteo lost the ball from one of those new-age goal kicks. Then we repeated the feat in the second half when Sokratis couldn’t even find a player on the edge of the box.

We are practising a new approach in-game and it feels like a brand new endeavour every time we try it. When Pep came to City, his ways looked clunky, 4 months in and it looked amazing. We are a year in, we’ve signed two ball-playing centre backs, we have a sweeper keeper and we have midfielders who should be able to create space and turn under pressure. The approach has never looked worse. I am not against new ideas unless those ideas are costing us goals and making us look like utter fustylugs.

Part of the reason it looks so bad is we do it over and over. We need to mix things up when they’re not working. Cleverly spoke to James Olley at The Standard and basically said they knew how we’d play, but they were shocked that when we’d been sussed, we didn’t change.

Structure:

Norwich are the hot thing at the minute. Who knows if their success will last. What we do know is they have a philosophy and a vision of what they want to do. Their passing out the back was brilliant at the weekend. They beat City’s press really well and they moved the ball at pace. They had a midfield that sat in front of the ball. Players dropped deeper in the box. Everyone knew their role. They play like a new Premier League team, and sadly, they are currently playing the way I suspect Emery would like to.

A few differences. Arsenal offered no midfield protection to the back 4 at the weekend. Xhaka was supposed to be the pivot, but he was all over the place. Matteo and Ceballos were not being led, they careened up the pitch, or panicked and dropped deep into the backline.

Where was our captain instructing them to occupy the space in front of the defence? How did management and the senior players not address the blitzkrieg of shots that showered our goal? It’s staggering how bad the on-pitch management was on Sunday.

Pressing:

When I first wrote about Emery’s hiring in two widely panned posts (day 1 / day 2)… now both classics, I wrote this pearler.

‘He’s a manager who makes players go to war for him, and I’m telling you, we’ll see a massive improvement in the effort, attitude, and footballing output.’

This felt true, especially during the first 4 months. The players ran further and appeared to have grown some balls.

Where has that gone? Our players look lethargic and we do very little pressing. I thought that was a speciality of his? Our players seem to be letting bad things happen to them. Watford was a disaster, we let them get at us and we collapsed. No leadership, very little fight and a capitulation.  These are Emery’s players now, how they behave on the pitch is down to him, because if players weren’t up his standard, he’d have them out by now.

We need to get back to working harder, running further and being a menace on the press.

I’m not saying I have all the answers here, but I am pretty certain if he sorted the above we’d win the league.

Let me know what you think in the comments, melon shaggers. xx

P.S. Help a fellow gooner.

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Champagne charlie

“ one has to beg the question why then do clubs buy and sell players? “ It’s not either or you turnip. Literally nobody is sat here saying better players won’t improve us. It’s YOU that’s sat saying Allegri in will have “slight to no improvement”. Keep up lad, it’s all getting rather cringe at your coaching denial. Emery is paid 6 mil a year, what do you think his job is? Because you’ve laughed off Arteta as someone that puts the cones out but that seems neck and neck for what Unai’s tasked with if we take your word… Read more »

WengerEagle

Reaching and you know it, who’s saying that he’s not allowed to bring in players that he wants? Generally you’re going to be bringing in 4 odd new faces max per window so when you inherit a squad of 25 odd you’re going to have to work with a large part of the squad that you take on with the job. It’s always one extreme to the next with you. Managers have to be able to work with lower level talent players unless you’re talking about City or one of the Euro elites that have two world class players per… Read more »

WengerEagle

Yep, so much of Simeone’s prestige comes from the 2 CL Finals effort as well as his league title in 2013/14.

Allegri has also gotten Juventus to 2 CL Finals, and he won his league title with Milan even before Juventus.

Un na naai

One has to beg the question

Why do Norwich look like they have a superior game plan and execution with a massively inferior squad?

Must have been the money they spent eh….

Un na naai

It’s actually ridiculous to even compare emery and allegri

Emery has won 1 title whips he was basically given.
He’s never been to the champions league semi let alone a final
He’s famous for dull football and throwing games he should be winning and wasting millions of pounds worth of talent because he’s incapable of coaching at the top level

The polar opposite to Allegri

Marko

Allegri has punched above Juve’s weight at the highest level in Europe. He’s a great coach. Far better than Emery.

No one’s denying that. I’m saying anyone expecting him to come in and drastically improve us defensively for example are deluding themselves it’ll be slightly improved. He’d improve us by binning certain players I’ve no doubt whatsoever.

Nelson

Seeing two CB’s in action, Kalidou Koulibaly and VVD. Both make a difference in their team.

Olumide

I know I supported Emery at the beginning of the season. That’s because I expected us to be better this season. But our first 5 games this season even look worse than last season. We’ve had no convincing win this season. Burnley was good but 2-1 is far from a convincing win. We can complain about the poor squad but it goes beyond that. I know our defenders are poor but I think the biggest problem is the defensive organization. Sometimes you see 6 Arsenal players in the box 18 (7 if you count the keeper) and 3 opposition players… Read more »

PieAFC

If managers/coaches don’t make an impact.

How did Watford suddenly manage to put in a performance once Flores came back…..

Oh, system and coaching.

PieAFC

This DAZN app is insane.

All the football, great value for money…

Chris

Haaland of Salzburg in red hot form right now. 12 goals already this season.

Nelson

I really like Pool’s 4 3 3 formation. They leave no gap while defending.

WengerEagle

4 matches still 0-0 fuck sake come on lads.

Un na naai

No one’s denying that. I’m saying anyone expecting him to come in and drastically improve us defensively for example are deluding themselves it’ll be slightly improved. He’d improve us by binning certain players I’ve no doubt whatsoever. No he wouldn’t marko He’d improve us drastically and quickly. He’d set us up and drill us entirely off the ball His game is built on a rock solid defence. Then he builds from there. He’d have aubameyang, lacazette, Pepe and others to provide goals and outlets without even breaking a sweat. He’d tighten the midfield immediately. He’d assess what we have and… Read more »

salpardisenyc

American gaffer Marsch has Salzburg in lead 3-1 over Genk.
Sign that gringo up.

WengerEagle

Salzburg trolling everyone who thought that would be the least watchable match by putting on a goal show here, 5-1.

Four HT 0-0’s in matches on paper that should have been goalfests, smh.

Graham62

This love in for Allegri drives me mad.

Chelski got an inexperienced English coach, with an exceptional playing background, who knows the club and the league inside out.

Why highlight all these high profile managers from abroad who have never worked in England?

#GetHoweIn.

Nelson

Just watching Kalidou Koulibaly ve Salah worth the money. World class attack and defense.
DAZN has the right for EPL this season. It replaces La Liga.

WengerEagle

Howe would be Moyes 2.0.

Un na naai

Graham

I’d take an ex arsenal man too. If you’d have noted my previous comments I said I’d be happy for arteta or vieira.

WengerEagle

Arteta still has to prove he can manage a side, no.2 is a far cry from being in control of a team.

Vieira did very well last season considering he lost his three best players in Balotelli, Plea and Seri.

Nelson

Super save by Pool’s goal. One hand saving a 3 yard tip in

Nelson

Two on one and Mane screwed up.

WengerEagle

Awful ball from Mane there.

Can be erratic in his end product.

Marko

That Alf Inge’s lad. Fair play.

Kamp

Pedro is right, but it’s hardly revelatory stuff. Xhaka is one of the worst players, most error prone in the squad – how you gonna make him captain?
Arsenal haven’t had a a shoo in for captain in years, which says it all.

It probably should be Auba. A starter, at the tail end of his career so we aren’t stuck with the decision for years, and someone who can inspire with performance if not influence.

Nelson

Good save by Napoli’s goalie

Marko

Chelsea so poor defensively.

HillWood

why Is theNapoli ground so empty ?

WrightIsGod

Don’t be dissing Mane, he’s Liverpool’s best all round player for years and plus plays for the team, unlike his selfish compatriot.

I’ve been calling him the black Suarez for time.

If he was white….

Nelson

Penalty for Napoli

WrightIsGod

As for Pedro’s post…

Lauding himself for being right about Emery because he realised it at the tail end of last season. I’m I to feel sorry for Pedro because he’s had detractors over his views on Emery?

I still remember having arguments with him and his bum chums when he was sticking up for Gazidis for no reason only to realise he was wrong but never actually owning up to it.

Suck it up.

Batistuta

Reus losing me money tonight with all this chances he’s missing

Marko

That’s not a pen

salparadisenyc

Its irrelevant Salzburg winning the group.

Champagne charlie

VVD with the comedy of errors, Sokratis is better

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Wenger
Would prefer Freddie n in interim..

Freddie will play Eddie.

Danny

Valencia and Napoli – to think we beat them both a few months ago!

Samesong

Pie

Dazn app? How much is it? I use a live net which is free.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Personally can’t see us recovering from Sunday’s shocker.

Think we need to do something drastic…

I thought his whole ethos on football pressing …

We get ore pressed than a pair of trousers … but we don’t press at all.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

No to arteta on his own..

Freddie could doman ole …. but long term ?

salparadisenyc

Good results tonight, Leipzig, Ajax, Salzburg, Napoli all with the wins.

Ishola70

Napoli played a good match against Liverpool.

They were streetwise in the game.

Wasn’t a penalty though their first goal.

Dissenter

City are in deep shite. Their central defenders are dropping like flies.
There’s no stopping Liverpool this season in the league it seems.

Ishola70

Danny
“Valencia and Napoli – to think we beat them both a few months ago!”

Valencia is a bit irrelevant as Chelsea are going to be up and down this season.

As for Napoli maybe they were really up for it playing in the premier european competition.

Italian clubs record in the Europa League is poor which could tell it’s own story of how Italian clubs see the Europa League.

Spanish clubs on the other hand seem to love the Europa League.

PieAFC

I live in Canada now mate. So It’s $150 for the year. All the English out here have it.

Unreal, game after game on.

Think only works in North America/Canada though.

PieAFC

The delay ain’t bad considering a streaming service. About 30-45seconds off real time. Never had a bad picture or poor quality. Can not fault the service for the price.

Ishola70

WrightIsGod
“Don’t be dissing Mane, he’s Liverpool’s best all round player for years and plus plays for the team, unlike his selfish compatriot”

Mane is good no doubt but he is third in the pecking order of that very good Liverpool front three and their importance in it.

It goes Salah, Firmino and then Mane in order of importance.

PieAFC

Frustrating watching the CL tonight, albeit very tight games.

Watching teams structured in defence and tactical understanding of the game.

What does everyone think we’ll do for Frankfurt? Another system change? I know they sold Haller and Rebic. Still a tough side to beat at home.

Wonder if some of the kids will go and start. Emery needs a result though.

Ishola70

Samesong
“PieDazn app? How much is it? I use a live net which is free.”

Russian sites everywhere on the web that stream high quality.

And not just Russian language.

They will show a lot of different streams from other country broadcasts.

And then you have a seperate app away from the net which is called Sportzone which shows a ridiculous amount of matches from every league you would think possible.

Un na naai

Wright is god

Well he isn’t. And he won’t be any time soon.
Can’t stand mugs who pull the race card.
Pathetic
Like black players never get their dues

Ever heard of a guy called Thierry Henry? No me neither
Sol Campbell? Who
How about paddy V? Wtf?

Na. Lee Dixon l, Ray parlour and pascal cygan we’re gaining all the plaudits while earths mightiest sat in the shadows

Sit down and shut up dopey

WrightIsGod

Ishola

Firmino over Mane.

Nah

WengerEagle

Frankfurt won’t offer much in the way of offensive firepower, they’re literally without their 4 outstanding attacking players from last season in Jovic [sold], Haller [sold], Rebic [sold] and Kostic [injured] and about 70 odd goals with that.

They did buy Bas Dost who’s literally as one-dimensional and limited as they come but he’s a deadly finisher nonetheless.

WengerEagle

I’m a big Firmino fan but tbf I’d take Mane over him all day.

Having said that, think that Firmino is more indispensable in that Liverpool system for the role that he plays.

Ishola70

HillWood
“why Is theNapoli ground so empty ?”

They always keep the very bottom tier of seats empty that are nearest to the pitch and this is where the tv cameras zoom in on when televising the match.

The rest of the tiers further up from these will be full enough.

Ishola70

Firmino makes that front three really click because the other two play off him.

Without Firmino coming deep and his flicks and throughballs then that front three isn’t as dangerous.

And of course he weighs in with some goals himself as well

WrightIsGod

Un na Shut your mouth you football thicko. Racism is a thing in the world and in football. Sol Campbell himself has campaigned against racism in football because he himself has felt it. Sol Campbell was an absolute great defender but is he spoken about in the same vein as the likes of his peers… nah. There was no denying Viera, Henry were the best players in their team you absolute tool, no one could come near to them and yet even now people claim shearer was the master. Yorke, Cole etc some absolute legends of the league and yet… Read more »

Ishola70

I don’t understand this VAR at all.

In the Inter Milan match they had a long stoppage so VAR could see whether a player should receive a red card instead of yellow. Never a red btw and wasted everyone’s time time.

And then in this Napoli match in what would be seen as a more key incident there is no call on VAR at all in relation to the first Napoli goal the penalty kick.

Bamford10

I don’t really want to get bogged down in the argument about last season, but I want to make it clear that while I think Emery is very much showing his limitations at present, this does not mean that I think all of the criticisms of Emery we heard here last year were reasonable, fair or accurate. Not at all. Indeed, many if not most of the criticisms leveled at him in these pages were unreasonable, unfair and inaccurate. Again, I don’t want to re-litigate the whole thing, but I still believe the late season “collapse” was primarily down to… Read more »

Bamford10

Ishola

Granted we haven’t seen much of him, and granted Lacazette can play the role when he’s healthy, but do you think Martinelli might be capable of playing the role Firmino does for Liverpool? Yes, he is young and inexperienced, but I wonder if Emery should begin seeing Martinelli as an option there.

Samesong

Hello Bamford hope all is well 😊 thanks for the insight about those apps lads.

Kamp

So Bamford, in your mind what IS the right formation? Particularly with the personnel at hand?

WrightIsGod

Firmino

142 appearances
50 goals

Mane
97 appearances
49 goals

And Mané has been there a year less.

Debate done there.

Ishola70

Good to see you back Bamford.

As to your question no idea at all and to be thinking in terms of Firmino in relation to Martinelli at this stage of his career is a bit of a big step.

We all hope that Martinelli will become Arsenal’s Firmino but if that materialises then it will be several years down the line yet.

Tough question Bamford first up lol.

Un na naai

Wright How I’m I being ignorant? By refuting your bogus claim that black players get relegated because of their race? It’s utter bull shit. The examples I’ve cited prove this Black coaches don’t get too jobs because none yet have been top coaches. You’ll see I said earlier that I want vieira to manage arsenal so again your claims are bogus Shearer is lauded because his goal record is the best. Nobody talks of solskjear more fondly than Yorke and Cole. It’s just bollocks created by yountinsupport the world view that you’re a victim. Really You’re just a bitter cunt… Read more »

Samesong

Try saying this fast.

We want Martinelli say we want Martinelli

Un na naai

Also

The reason why nobody went near Campbell is because he had mental health issues and his race baiting rightly made people nervous. If he fucks yo and you get rid then he’s going to pull the card you just pulled

Much easier than admitting you failed on your own steam isn’t it?

Ishola70

WrightisGod

No debate is not done there.

No-one has argued that Mane and Salah score more goals than Firmino. Who would argue that.

The debate is about the importance of each player in the front three which makes the whole three click.

Do you not think Salah and Mane thank Firmino for being the foil that sees them score more goals than him.

The debate is much more than just basic black and white goalscoring stats I’m afraid on this one.

WengerEagle

Welcome back Bamford.

Valentin

I don’t understand the argument that with a better coach, our defense would not be better. That is the definition of a better coach, he is able to make the same group of players perform better. Perform better means better result. In view of our bad defensive record , Even a small improvement in that department would have a great impact on our final league position. Last season Arsenal had 7 draws and 10 defeats including 5 by only 1 goal. If we were to concede 9 goals less that would corresponds to 1 goal less every 4 games. That… Read more »

WrightIsGod

As for that biggot un na na nai or whatever dead name he calls himself… I feel sorry for deadbeats like him. If you don’t think the colour of someone’s skin does not effect how the world views them and their skills, you’re a moron. When there’s a debate between who’s the best there’s always an excuse as to why the white example wins ala Pele and Maradona, this despite of any wrong doings. It’s very much argued now that Aguero is the GOAT of the Premier League but we as Arsenal fans know that the all round quality Henry… Read more »

WengerEagle

Firmino is more a system player whereas Mane is the more versatile and adaptable. For the way Klopp sets up Liverpool’s side Firmino is more vital than Mane imo. Their midfield is full of powerful runners and stamina freaks that are good all-rounders on and off the ball but they lack guile and creativity. As Ishola said, Firmino’s ability to spin off and drop deep to receive passes and bridge the gap from the midfield trio and Salah-Mane is absolutely crucial to their make up. He’s the side’s target man and creative fulcrum all in one piece. Mane is the… Read more »

WrightIsGod

Un na naiii

“Black coaches don’t get too jobs because none yet have been top coaches.”

I mean this sentence makes my point 100%. What a scumbag.

You think that out of all the black players none of them have been good enough? And for what reason? Where’s the chances?

The irony is Sol Campbell himself penned an article a few years ago about this very subject and he was ridiculed… by guess who?

Valentin

Martinelli is a direct player, threatening the opposition by his pace and dribbling skills. Firmino role is completely different. Very rarely does he outsprint an opponent. He acts as a foil to drag the CB out of position and open space for both Mane and Salah to run into. His role implies that he will score less than the other two. However without him, they would not be as potent. I am not sure that Martinelli has that great linkup ability yet. I have been impressed by his directness and fearlessness, but I can’t recall any link-up move of note… Read more »

Dissenter

How on earth did Coquelin receive a yellow card for that horror lunge ar Mason Mount.
Isn’t VAR supposed to check such incidents for missed sending offs?

Ishola70

WrightisGod

I see enough people still citing Pele as the best ever.

And Pele while he was actually playing had an awful lot of fuss made about him. And why not.

It was the whiteys seeing him as exotic you see lol. As well as his footballing abilities.

WrightIsGod

WengerEagle

You may think Firmino is vital for Liverpool but who is the better footballer.
And if Firmino is so vital do you rate him over Salah?

WrightIsGod

Ishola

The world on a whole touts Maradona and you know it.

Ishola70

Dissenter

I haven’t got a clue how VAR is meant to be working here.

Plays which you think are unnecessary to call on VAR they are wasting time calling on it and plays where you think calling on VAR is an absolute must they don’t even refer to it.

Makes the whole thing a sham really.

WengerEagle

When there’s a debate between who’s the best there’s always an excuse as to why ‘the white example wins ala Pele and Maradona, this despite of any wrong doings.’ Common sense would have it that the player that played in the 1980’s rather than the 1960’s would be more heralded as the GOAT between people below the age of 50 as they’d never have even seen Pele play. Nothing to do with racism. And I don’t know who you’re talking to but pretty much every poll that’s done online or greatest PL player debates on Sky, BBC, etc all have… Read more »

Ishola70

WrightisGod

You do realise there was a Pele phenomenon right when he was actually playing?

Bamford10

Kamp 4-3-3 or 4-5-1. We signed Pepe in order to play him wide and in order to play with wide attacking players on both sides. Emery’s tinkering with a 4-4-2 diamond has been really silly. Pepe is not a CF, and if the plan was to play with wide attacking players, stick to the plan and develop the team’s ability to play fluently and well in that formation. I will admit that he is in a pickle when selecting his midfield — his options are not very good — but he can do better than he is doing, and Ceballos… Read more »

WrightIsGod

Ishola

You do realise I’m comparing how people judge players when comparing them to others?

Un na naai

Wright is god Name me one top black coach in football who was passed over a top job for over his skin colour I’ll wait….. And don’t try and move the goal posts Sane gets his props As did pele As did Henry And all other other great black players. All of your bullshit examples have been shot down. You just aren’t doing very well and you’re claiming it’s yours skin rather than your attitude in life. And if racism is so rife then why are then English and French teams littered with black players? Who’s holding these boys back?… Read more »

WengerEagle

WIG

I think that Firmino would be the hardest to replace in the front 3, doesn’t make him the best player. Salah to me is the best player in that he would have the most success on other teams.

Firmino is the best footballer of the three but he can’t shift that extra gear like Salah or those extra 5 gears that Mane can shift. Pace is critical in the modern game so it’s a significant strength that the other two have on him. He also doesn’t possess their nose for goal and killer instinct.

WrightIsGod

141 appearances Firmino has contributed 29 assists.

In 97 appearances Sane has contributed 22 assists.

Sure Firmino gives more to the team lol.

Un na naai

Henry was the best premier league player ever.
How bigoted

Valentin

Bamford, That is revisionism at his worst. Last season, whenever people were calling Emery on his mistake in personnel, in system, they were lambasted. Wengerite, Spurs supporters were the most sedate insult they faced. It took Emery six months to realise that Lichsteiner was past it. It was evident that his legs were gone and he didn’t have the discipline nor the positioning awareness to compensate for it. Even Jenkinson would have been better. He kept playing two in central midfield against teams that had three players. A small player like Torreira with stamina issue having to compensate for the… Read more »

WengerEagle

It’s a generational thing though, the vast majority of people under 30 have Messi as the GOAT.

30-50 I’d say most have Maradona as the GOAT followed by Messi/Pele.

And most of the 50+ would have Pele as the GOAT. My old lad [64] still raves about Pele and has him as the GOAT.

WrightIsGod

WengerEagle

“Firmino is the best footballer of the three but he can’t shift that extra gear like Salah or those extra 5 gears that Mane can shift. Pace is critical in the modern game so it’s a significant strength that the other two have on him. He also doesn’t possess their nose for goal and killer instinct.”

I mean you’ve kind of made my point here. Aren’t those the attributes in which we have usually judged the best ie Messi and Ronaldo? Otherwise God forbid Ozil would win the the Ballon d’or every season, apparently.

Un na naai

Maradonna won the World Cup almost single handedly in an average team, scoring the greatest World Cup goal of all time He came to Europe and did the business in two separate leagues at a time when it was the norm to crack a player’s ankles. He’s every right to the claim of no1 as do the people who believe it. Messi is fucking unbelievable. No doubt. Probably the best I’ve seen but maradonna proved it. He did it wherever he went and NEVER played it safe. Can the same be said of pele? He’s in the same category but… Read more »

WengerEagle

Walcott used to have decent goals/assists stats.

It doesn’t tell the whole story, and for the record Firmino has double the assists of Mane [33 F, 16 M] since Mane joined Liverpool in 2016.

Since Mane’s goal count has ratcheted up, the creativity has dried up. 2 assists in all competitions last season.

WrightIsGod

Un na nai

Sorry not sure we’ve conversed before. Now realising you’re a bit slow. Next time you call someone or people with a view mugs remember pot kettle black, so to speak ha.

WengerEagle

WIG

Comparing Firmino to Ozil is laughable as is comparing Mane to Messi and Ronaldo.

Not sure your beef here, I’ve said that Mane is the better player. Just that Firmino is more vital to their system given the workmanlike CM that doesn’t possess nearly as much guile and imagination as City’s.

WrightIsGod

WengerEagle

“Since Mane’s goal count has ratcheted up, the creativity has dried up. 2 assists in all competitions last season.”

But still a better ratio overall on Firmino though, and he’s been there longer so…

Look I know that stats don’t show everything but Mane is the better all round player sorry.

Ive had to hear the stats doesn’t show everything argument for Ozil forever I don’t intend to buy it when I’ve got eyes and the stats back those eyes of mine.

Valentin

In na naai, Jean Tigana was passed over several positions because he was black. Les Ferdinand gave an interview where he explained that one club had a policy of no black on the director box and management floor. He went for a job interview and the person at reception did not know who he was and refused to let him pass. If you don’t believe that racism does not exist in players select. Read. https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/sport/gills-race-appeal-dismissed-43896/ Sol Campbell took a near impossible job because it was the only one offered to him. He miraculously save them from relegation and left because… Read more »

WrightIsGod

WengerEagle

“I’ve said Mane is the better player.”

Well that’s it and all I need to hear dude. As I’ve said Mane is better than Firmino debate done. So why the hell has Ishola put him as third?

Why are people debating further about being vitol to team etc etc. The point I made was Mane is the best all round player in the team.

Ishola70

He was put in third Wrighty in order of importance of the front three as a whole.

The current Liverpool front three.

And WengerEagle hasn’t disagreed with that.

In fact he has agreed.

That’s unless he sees Sane as a better footballer than Salah.

WrightIsGod

Valentin

Incredible comment. Thanks.

Un na naii no good black coaches comment is indicative of the problem.