Best 3 man midfield?

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Let’s get right into it, the reason Emery played Mikhi is because he didn’t know the player was heading out to Roma on loan. The player found out AFTER the game.

I don’t really care either way, why would you bring on Mikhi regardless?

It seems more and more like young kids are being pushed onto Emery.

Telling that the manager had to be convinced by the stats guys at Arsenal that LT was a better choice than Nzonzi. Great to see that someone at the club was taming Emery’s inner Tony Pulis.

Ultimately, there’s no point in trying to flog a dead horse. I understand why Emery would rather bet his house on experience, but for me, when that experience consistently lets you down, why not try something a little more unpredictable… something that actually has something to prove.

There are now no excuses for Reiss. He is going to have rough games, but he has to deal with that. He has to build mental toughness quickly and he simply has to take his chances. A few goals under his belt or an elite assist should have him on his way.

He needs to be the best he can be and leave himself no excuses come the end of the season. I guess the folly of youth is you don’t realise that a little more focus can have a chain effect on your life. I’d imagine the worst thing for an elite athlete is think they blew a football career because they were chasing babes in Basildon.

Same goes for ESR, Gabriel and Saka. Take those opps and make it impossible for the manager to ignore you… just like Matteo and AMN did last season.

Granit Xhaka had a message for the haters (worst turn of phrase ever).

“Of course critics are always here. The North London derby, I think we had a good game. I made a mistake with the penalty but if you saw the game, we could have won.

“We had a lot of chances but this is football. Nobody speaks about the chances, nobody speaks about how many we missed. They always speak about the mistakes.

“This is part of football.”

Come on Granit, the only reason we talk about your mistakes is because they are so regular.

I think we all understand that we’re overweight, slow and shite at sport… but come on, if Fat Dave in your Sunday League team did that, he’d be getting a bus back home and you’d piss in his kit bag.

What, too far?

Another player who made a mistake was Bernd Leno. It looked like he was caught off guard by the lacklustre pace of the Lamela strike and couldn’t change his palm to a catch.

‘I think the first goal was a little bit unlucky. I couldn’t catch the ball completely and then I tried to get up but Eriksen scored, it was unlucky but that is the life of a goalkeeper. For me it was then like the team, I had to stand up. It is not a big problem just because we conceded a goal, I had to stay positive and I thought after that I did a very good job.’

He’s a great shotstopper and he did a good job the rest of the game, but he really needs to have a few quiet games. He was bullied by Burnley and my worry is that’s an opening for teams like Watford to target him. The toughest thing for a keeper in the Premier League is the highballs, namely because you get charged down by thugs. He’s clearly a confidence keeper, I just hope he doesn’t have a dip like he did at his last club.

I have faith…

What I am wondering is whether Emery is going to persist with the 3 man midfield that looks basically like three holding midfielders. The decision to do that doesn’t seem to be paying any dividends. We give up creativity moving forward and we’re viscous through back. Quite incredible how easy our three holding players were to play through in the first half.

There needs to be a solution. I think having a more attacking threat could help. Still not quite sure what the best midfield is, but it’s looking more and more like LT, Matteo and Ceballos… though I wouldn’t be shocked to see Willock given more regular game time. Emery likes powerful players and you’d be hard pushed not to feel that Willock is stronger than LT.

We’ll see though… right, that’s all I have.

Big love to Alex Cutter from the comments. A laser-focused beast to everyone, always on the edge of a ban, long may that continue. x

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  1. Receding Hairline

    N’Zonzi is still a thing in Le Grove?

    No he isn’t

    Just reacting to the report Emery preferred him to “next” Kante

    That ship has sailed, let’s all hope Torriera does develop into the player most think he is this season, we are already seeing good development in Guendouzi who was also Lost since January

  2. Pedro

    CC / Valentin, I’m glad there are at least two people that understand the value of aura / X factor / special sauce in the world of football management.

    I am not surprised at the people questioning its existence.

    Wenger, for all his decline, almost never had leaks from the dressing room.

    Emery, in his first season couldn’t motivate his team to show in a cup final, the players put in one of the most cowardly ends to the season ever, and they leaked to the press about him.

    ‘No evidence Emery can’t hold a dressing room’, after being exited from PSG because big players didn’t buy into him / the above.

  3. Receding Hairline

    “Wenger, for all his decline, almost never had leaks from the dressing room.”

    What was there to leak?

    “Emery, in his first season couldn’t motivate his team to show in a cup final, ”

    Klopp lost about 9 straight finals before winning this year with Liverpool and he has all the charisma a man will ever need. In the Europa league final we had a fantastic first half, promptly lost our heads when the first goal went in and AMN gave away two in quick succession, who needs facts when you can talk sauce though

    “‘No evidence Emery can’t hold a dressing room’, after being exited from PSG because big players didn’t buy into him / the above.”

    Emery’s football career did not start at PSG, Tuchel is having worse problems with that same dressing room, the biggest player there has done everything in his power to leave, we heard words of dissent from Mbappe, maybe the problems at PSG run deeper than a lack of ketchup

  4. Marko

    I don’t like Mourinho, but there are very few people who could convince Samuel Eto to play fullback in a Champion’s League final for the good of the team.

    Christ you talk some shite. Asking someone on the RW to put in defensive work isn’t the same as asking them to play as a fullback. They started with Maicon and Zanetti in that final and you’d like people to believe that Eto’o was also playing RB. Ridiculous.

  5. Champagne charlie

    “What was there to leak?“

    Should’ve been a lot for how dire and repetitive things got. I’d say the loyalty shown by more than the vast majority of his ex-players speaks to his ability as a leader rightly or wrongly.

    Hard to deny that players bought into his philosophy. Only really broke in his very final season after Xmas when we were so far off anything relatable to modern Arsenal you could only laugh.

  6. Marko

    Wenger, for all his decline, almost never had leaks from the dressing room.

    What’s this nonsense now? Oh yeah I remember you going on about something last season what was it only a real manager or man or whatever could stop leaks from happening.

    As for the sauce stuff again it’s just the usual types throwing it around without explaining it’s meaning in reference to management. How is it that Emery doesn’t have sauce? What is it that makes the likes of Tuchel and Poch dripping in it? I’m genuinely interested. Big fan of the early signs of management from Nagelsmann but even I wouldn’t be so foolish to start talking about his sauciness without being able to prove I knew what the hell I was talking about.

  7. Marko

    Overpaid underperforming players who kept seeing game time why indeed leak anything. Besides which it’s a football club what interesting leaks ever cone from that

    Also ex players and all the nice things they say never really applies to Emery am I right.

  8. Receding Hairline

    “Should’ve been a lot for how dire and repetitive things got. I’d say the loyalty shown by more than the vast majority of his ex-players speaks to his ability as a leader rightly or wrongly.”

    They didn’t need to leak anything, the ones who saw he was going nowhere simply left, he had ultimate power, what exactly was a leak going to get you? Situation is different now, players can actually see who Emery answered to so it’s easy to attempt to undermine him, who was Wenger answerable to?

  9. Samesong

    Pedro

    Why don’t you just say the man lacks personality, he lacks presence! All this sauce bollocks that you talk about is just a slang term which most people would not understand.

    I understand totally what your’e on about being a london lad u get me!

  10. Pedro

    RH, what are you really arguing here? That Klopp and Emery are the same?

    Marko, I can’t keep explaining what stands people out from being an capable manager to being a great leader.

    You don’t get it. It’s either because you work in an area that doesn’t require it, or you are on the spectrum in some way and actually don’t understand it.

    This feels similar to the arguments I have about specialisms in football with Dissenter.

    You can disagree with something, but you can’t shift reality.

    X factor / sauce / aura in all walks of life is a thing. Always has been, always will be. Especially pertinent in elite sport because you are dealing with poorly educated millionaires that are very powerful.

    Emery doesn’t have it. Just watch him talk. Look how he carries himself. He’s not a man great players will ever buy into.

  11. Receding Hairline

    “Hard to deny that players bought into his philosophy. ”

    Hard to deny that Unai Emery’s players at Lorca bought into his philosophy hence a first promotion in their history

    Hard to deny Almeria players bought into his philosophy hence a first promotion to La Liga and a eight place finish first time of asking

    Hard to deny Sevilla players bought into his mastering of the Europa league hence three straight wins

    Hard to deny the revolving door of players at Valencia listened to him hence three straight third place finishes in La Liga (i know you are more concerned with how close they were to the top three but they did finish third three straight times

    You cannot just write him off as a leader of men off the back of PSG, that’s ridiculous

  12. Dissenter

    Receding
    Player can be sold…true…but only when the transfer window opens

    Until then, the situation still has to be managed.

  13. Pedro

    Samesong, I write a blog, not a government help site. I don’t need to change my words to help people along with basics.

  14. Champagne charlie

    “You don’t get it. It’s either because you work in an area that doesn’t require it, or you are on the spectrum in some way and actually don’t understand it.“

    😂😂

  15. jwl

    “Wenger, for all his decline, almost never had leaks from the dressing room.”

    This is revisionist bullsh*t, Pedro. The last three or four seasons under Wenger, there would be a story in Feb or March about how the squad were aware things were going tits up and they would work together to make things right despite Wenger and his methods.

  16. Receding Hairline

    “RH, what are you really arguing here? That Klopp and Emery are the same?”

    Not arguing, simply stating that losing or winning a cup final is not sauce dependent or charisma dependent. Not an argument, simply stating a fact and citing an example that one of the most charismatic men in football lost six straight finals.

  17. Samesong

    Samesong, I write a blog, not a government help site. I don’t need to change my words to help people along with basics.

    Good on you mate.

  18. Wasi

    Replying to all Nzonzi would of got us CL peeps.
    Ok so if we had bought Nzonzi over Torreira we would have had 2 of the most slowest players in the league. And the most Slowest midfield in the league. We would of had a player with zero resale value who couldn’t even get a spot in Roma’s 11 in a league which is very very slow as compared to the Prem. He couldn’t handle Prem in his younger years what makes yall think he could of ripped it in his latter years. His goal involvement is negligible. His passing is like Elneny’s and his work rate lower. And after Gazidis and co babbling about new chapter, focus on youth and then buying a journeyman would have been the biggest irony.
    On the other hand Torreira bought us the personality, the passion that we have been missing since some time . He covers ground he snaps at ankles he is always there. Everybody can agree that Emery improved Arsenal against the top 6 . Guess what it was Torreira who was the MoM against Pool home and Spurs Home. And he was our best player in the first half of last season. I agree he did tail off towards the second half. First season in a new country, new environment , people + he always had a winter break before. He didnt have a break in England , was playing nearly every 3 days while playing nearly every game for Uruguay since his World cup bow . The dip in form was more fitness related than ability related. And nobody knows what would have happened if we had bought Nzonzi. Nobody. And 4th position was something the team lost as a whole and not one player. You could pin it on Xhaka and Mustafi who were the most culpable but not Torreira. And lets not forget he was 22 last season. He’s gonna cement a place in this 11 and become an important player for us this season write that down somewhere.

  19. Champagne charlie

    Receding

    This is where you fall off the cliff of reasonable.

    Lorca, and Almeria he achieved.

    Then he stepped up a level……

    Valencia you say he achieved, but it had a ceiling that’s been broken through by Simeone. So what stopped Emery?

    Sevilla you say he achieved…….in the Europa league. Huge asterisk there. What about La Liga? Best in the EL but not better than 5th in Spain? Explain.

    Then he stepped up again….

    PSG wasn’t a success, he couldn’t handle a Jardim side and was thoroughly out coached over the course of the season. Harsh, but fair appraisal. Now Arsenal, he had 3rd with 6 games left and missed out. Not only that but his “specialty” was turned on its head and he was totally spanked.

    What many suggest is that his level is Valencia and Sevilla, because up a notch he’s been anything but faultless or impressive. So seems he’s a man with a Philosophy that is limited.

  20. Marko

    Marko, I can’t keep explaining what stands people out from being an capable manager to being a great leader.

    You haven’t explained once. You certainly haven’t explained how Poch has sauce or how missing out on Arteta was us again passing on elite management again. You said that.

    You don’t get it. It’s either because you work in an area that doesn’t require it, or you are on the spectrum in some way and actually don’t understand it.

    That’s fucking nice. For someone who is so quick with the ban hammer you are very quick to insult. Totally understandable when you can’t prove any of the pointless sound bites you’re trying out.

    Emery doesn’t have it. Just watch him talk. Look how he carries himself. He’s not a man great players will ever buy into.

    That may be but he’s one of the most successful managers of the last 10 years so I’m not sure sauce really matters. He could retire or die tomorrow and he’d have had a good trophy laden career as a manager. His tombstone would likely read Unai Emery winner of 10 trophies not Unai Emery sauceless bore

  21. jwl

    Charisma is intangible, some people think Klopp has presence or aura while others will think he clown. I judge a manager on how many trophies he won, does he improve squad from previous coach, that is all that matters.

    Using charisma as metric is dumb because there will be disagreement about who has sauce and who doesn’t but winning matches/trophies is tangible. When Emery and Poch retire, who will be more happy with their career – the guy with multiple trophies or the one who stagnated at Spuds and won no trophies despite having top quality squad?

  22. Champagne charlie

    Wasi

    No offence, that block writing style is hard to work through. But Torreira isn’t a ground covering dynamo like you make out, he’s slow as fuck.

    Nzonzi would’ve had no resale blah blah as noted, but we’d have been better equipped last season with him over Torreira. Pretty fair and basic claim imo. The lack of resale value mitigated by the huge CL windfall. Swings and roundabouts eh

  23. Guns of SF

    I only brought up NZonzi has he was heavily speculated to be on the list of transfers that UE wanted.

    I stand by what I say… Nzoniz is much more the player than the POS Xhaka.

    He has much more stability to the game. Good passer, Tall, faster, better on set pieces, corners, etc. He is 6’5

    Please someone tell me how Xhaka is better than him.

    Also, dont get me wrong, Im no Nzonzi fan boy but compared to Xhaka, he is better

  24. Receding Hairline

    “Hard to deny that players bought into his philosophy. ”

    This is what we are debating Charles, Pedro says players do not believe in him but it has been proven at a certain level that players do believe in him . Simple

    I don’t care about the what happened or did not happen when he stepped up debate

    He stepped up at PSG and won 7/10 trophies available , out coached by Jardim is no shame seeing Jardim had quite a squad that year and is back to his level it seems

    He stepped up at Arsenal and his team finished a point behind a manage you rate very highly while he was also getting to his own cup final, he can also claim the distraction Pochettino did

    And you keep going on about Simeone, don’t know why, is Emery meant to be judged against every manager that has done well at La liga? Who are you judging Pochettino against?

  25. Receding Hairline

    “PSG wasn’t a success, he couldn’t handle a Jardim side and was thoroughly out coached over the course of the season. Harsh, but fair appraisal”

    Unai Emery has faced Leonardo Jardim eight times in his career, he has won SIX , drew one and lost ONE

    Thoroughly out coached is quite the over statement but whatever

  26. Marko

    https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/what-unai-emerys-former-players-have-said-about-arsenals-new-boss/

    Anonymous Almeria player aside some great players in there.

    David Silva: “I know Unai Emery personally and I know that’s he going to get the absolute best that he can out of that squad of players, he’s a top manager.”

    David Villa: “It was an honour for me to work with Unai. He is a great person and a great coach who helped me immensely in my career during the time we were together. I wish him well. For me, he’s one of the top coaches around today.”

    Not a man great players wil buy into for sure. How do I know? Some lad says he lacks sauce

  27. Champagne charlie

    Receding

    I know what was being discussed, I was illustrating that whatever you consider his philosophy it was less and was effective with every step up the ladder in quality.

    Great at Almeria, dishwater at Arsenal.

    I cote Simeone because you’ve often stated previously that Valencia finishing 3rd was imperious stuff. To me it’s worth noting that a comparable side was managed to greater feats thus showing the idea of Spain as a two team race is a matter of convenience.

  28. Pedro

    JWL, have you ever spoken to anyone at Arsenal? Even loosely associated?

    No.

    You do not know what is bullshit. You ‘feel’ it’s bullshit.

    You are wrong.

  29. Champagne charlie

    “Thoroughly out coached is quite the over statement but whatever“

    I’ll go ahead and disagree on that one, you’ve done the same with regard to Poch but on both occasions which coach finished ahead of the other at the end of the season?

    Jardim, then Poch. A head to head record is a insignificant when considering the vast array of coaching needed for a season. Both outdid Emery.

  30. Receding Hairline

    I know what was being discussed, I was illustrating that whatever you consider his philosophy it was less and was effective with every step up the ladder in quality.

    We were not talking philosophy

    Discussion was the ability to lead men, to motivate them to perform above their collective, he did that at Lorca, Almeria and Valencia (through serious financial constraints to the point his work there has been termed miraculous many times) and he was a success for Sevilla no matter how you want to paint it, speak to any Sevilla fan and they have no issues with Unai Emery, he put them on the European map

  31. jwl

    Pedro I don’t need to get emails from Gazidis supporting insiders to know that there were big stories every year in Feb and March that players were aware of Wenger faults and they were trying to rectify them.

  32. Champagne charlie

    Receding

    Doing that thing you do now.

    1. His philosophy gets less substantive the higher the level.
    2. Or his ability to lead/manage higher level players/egos diminishes

    Pick one, that’s the trend I illustrated. Why did he do great at Almeria but has flattered to deceive at PSG and Arsenal?

  33. azed

    “Using charisma as metric is dumb because there will be disagreement about who has sauce and who doesn’t but winning ”

    Pedro uses “sauce” because its neither objective nor measurable but subject to his personal interpretation .
    I posted some xG metric yesterday and despite what Pedro, CC and co would like you to believe, we scored more than Spurs, created more than Spurs and had a better xG than Spurs.
    For a coach who is bland, reactive and visionless, the numbers suggest that Emery is a better attacking coach than special sauce Poch.

  34. Pedro

    X factor is intangible, but normal humans recognise it. It’s not a point of debate whether it’s real or not. If it weren’t, knowing things would be the basis of leadership. It’s not.

    Steve Jobs > Woz is a simple demonstration of this. Who knew more? Who was more like Emery?

    At the highest level, that something extra special is what makes you elite and allows you to drive people to the next level.

  35. Marko

    Valencia you say he achieved, but it had a ceiling that’s been broken through by Simeone. So what stopped Emery?

    Lol. Cause of course situations were the same.

    PSG wasn’t a success, he couldn’t handle a Jardim side and was thoroughly out coached over the course of the season.

    I’ll have to revert you to my good friend Charlie from 2018 who said “You’re going OTT about losing the league to Monaco, there was no ‘one horse race’ there and you’re certainly smart enough to appreciate that cmon man.You’d be an incredibly harsh judge to pick apart his undertakings at PSG, that place may have all the ambition and money in the world but the structure is nonsensical. Neymar was bought and he instantly was a bigger influence than the manager.”

    I agree

  36. Receding Hairline

    “I’ll go ahead and disagree on that one, you’ve done the same with regard to Poch but on both occasions which coach finished ahead of the other at the end of the season?”

    Jardim finished ahead of him once winning the league title, he won the other three trophies on offer in the country beating Jardim 4-1 in a final. saying a man who has only beaten the other once out coached him is silly. There are various things that go into a season

  37. Receding Hairline

    “Pick one, that’s the trend I illustrated. Why did he do great at Almeria but has flattered to deceive at PSG and Arsenal?”

    He won 7/10 trophies at PSG and moved on, the man who replaced him has not exactly set Paris alight. He has not flattered to do anything at Arsenal, bit too hasty that

  38. Champagne charlie

    Receding
    The league is the measure of consistency, always has been. So Emery is a cup manager?

    Marko
    So Emery wasn’t out coached by Jardim, PSG won the league that year did they? No, no they didn’t. He wasn’t out coached and thus a failure given the remit.

  39. Samesong

    At the highest level, that something extra special is what makes you elite and allows you to drive people to the next level.

    So after all that faff and government site sark you explained yourself lol. Good on you.

  40. HighburyLegend

    “Laporte out for the next 4 months”

    The scoop which change your life.
    Thanks a lot for passing by, school’s out ??

  41. Pedro

    Azed, shots per game last season had arsenal in 11th.

    We were joint top for conversion with Liverpool, but for less shots.

  42. Champagne charlie

    “He won 7/10 trophies at PSG and moved on, the man who replaced him has not exactly set Paris alight. He has not flattered to do anything at Arsenal, bit too hasty that“

    Moved on? Did Emery not want to stay in Paris? Fill me in. Tuchel isn’t in the discussion here so keep on track and ignore the distraction tactics.

    I beg to differ thank you, with 6 games to go and sitting in 3rd place, with a EL final ahead, “flattering to deceive” is a kind way of describing what then unfolded.

  43. Marko

    X factor is intangible, but normal humans recognise it. It’s not a point of debate whether it’s real or not. If it weren’t, knowing things would be the basis of leadership. It’s not.

    No one’s denying that it’s a real thing. What instead is being discussed and disregarded by you is the your ability to prove that this person has sauce while this other person doesn’t. Take Poch for example I’d genuinely be interested in how you can prove his sauciness outside of some dismissive and snarky comments I don’t think you could.

  44. Champagne charlie

    “Thanks a lot for passing by, school’s out ??“

    Must be if you’re here to offer fuck all.

    Karim
    Saw that. Comes literally a week after Pep claimed him one of the best in Europe. Big blow for them.

  45. Words on a Blog

    In the beginning was the Sauce, and the Sauce was cooked up by Pedro, and bestowed by Pedro upon his favoured Anointed Ones, whom he lovethed and coveted.

    Amongst them, of course, was the Pep and the Klopp, and the Mighty Poch of Tottenhamia, notwithstanding his lack of trophies, and Arteta The Assistant With the Perfect Hair.

    Even the Evil Snake Mourinho was bestowed with sauce, despite the misery and discord he sowed everywhere he went.

    But one Basqoman understood that he would never be graced with Sauce, no matter how many trophies he won in the past, how well he fixed his teeth, nor how he fared in the future.

    For, in matters of sauce and philosophy, Pedro’s word is final.

  46. Receding Hairline

    “You’re going OTT about losing the league to Monaco, there was no ‘one horse race’ there and you’re certainly smart enough to appreciate that cmon man.You’d be an incredibly harsh judge to pick apart his undertakings at PSG, that place may have all the ambition and money in the world but the structure is nonsensical. Neymar was bought and he instantly was a bigger influence than the manager.”

    Charles that post above was from you in 2018

    You actually understood hat happened at PSG so i will ignore you on that subject now He had a two year deal at PSG, stayed two years and moved on. Why would he want to stay at such a place when he still has enough pull to walk into the Arsenal job.

  47. Pedro

    Words, if you think Emery has sauce, that is fine.

    Taste levels can differ. Wouldn’t inspire me to make him a cup of tea

  48. Marko

    So Emery wasn’t out coached by Jardim, PSG won the league that year did they?

    No they won the league setting some records along the way with a once in a generation group of players. Thoroughly out coached and terming his time at PSG as not successful I’ll have to agree with 2018 Charlie and say it’s OTT and incredibly harsh. I miss him far more objective

  49. Champagne charlie

    Receding

    I can believe the influence of Neymar at that club ridiculous but it doesn’t mean Emery is without scope.

    Explain the idea he simply “moved on”? Seems like you’re attempting to rebrand his time as a success.

  50. Pedro

    Lol… poor old oil rich PSG. What was Emery to do after inheriting a title winning side that shipped just 19 goals the season before.

  51. Wasi

    CC
    Im on am android so please endure the block writing. What makes you think that Nzonzi couldve prevented the last 5 matches downfall or the complete defensive capitulation in the EL final. Not reaching the CL was a team failure which you are saying couldve been prevented if we had Nzonzi. I dont see how. Nzonzi great in set pieces? Had 1 goal last season which is less than our CB Kos who played only half the season.
    Torreira is not a midfield dynamo yet. He csn still develop a lot. And he is faster than you make him seem + can cover more space tham Nzonzi. The only thing Nzonzi has over Torreira is height.

  52. Marko

    There’s not many football manager’s around that have that sauce anymore!

    This is actually very true. Some harsh realities on the horizon for certain types when the next manager also doesn’t have sauce. I mean the candidates were Emery, Arteta and Vieira and I wouldn’t let any of them make me a sandwich.

  53. Receding Hairline

    Explain the idea he simply “moved on”? Seems like you’re attempting to rebrand his time as a success

    7/10 is a success at any level, i know you like to pass off yourself as a man of high standards but that is success

  54. Guns of Hackney

    I’ll tell you about sauce. 2 hours in the garden trying to undo about 13 months of neglect. Single handed I might add. I haven’t even touched the sides.

    Saucy available (probably) managers:

    1. Tuchel
    2. Jose
    3. Arsene. Mad but has sauce.
    4. Arteta
    5. Silva
    6. Jardim
    7. Viera
    8. Ljungberg

    Anyone but the anti-sauce Emery. Tonight, I’m going to have homemade stir fry and as as actor defiance, I’m going to have too much sauce.

  55. Wasi

    Pedro.
    Mourinho completely sunk the ship at UTD. So you still think he has the sauce, the X factor.?
    And if your wish of sacking Emery was granted who would you want to replace him?
    You constantly say Arteta has sauce, what evidence do you have supporting that statement an how are you so sure he can lead a room when he has not even managed one?

  56. Pedro

    Wasi,

    He has X factor for sure, but he doesn’t have the hunger or ideas anymore. Hence why he has no job.

    Same for Wenger.

  57. Champagne charlie

    “7/10 is a success at any level, i know you like to pass off yourself as a man of high standards but that is success“

    Success is relative, not what you deem it.

    You know this already by touting 3rd place finished success at Valencia, EL victories and average league returns success at Sevilla etc.

    If he was a success there why is he no longer there? Too much success? Seems unlikely.

  58. Guns of Hackney

    Wasi

    Arteta is a leader and by all accounts, pretty savvy when it comes to all things football.

    Do not fall into this idiotic trap of “he weren’t a good midfielder so he’ll be a shit manager” BS. Nonsense.

    He knows his shit and pep has pretty much said as much and basically green lit him for taking over the city job.

    I have zero doubt that Arteta will be a very good manager in the next couple of years.

  59. Marko

    It’s a shame people are so dismissive of the achievements of that Monaco side in 2016/17 and just pass off their success as another individual’s failure. That team was incredible. Bernardo Silva, Lemar, Falcao, Fabinho, Mbappe, Sidibe, Mendy, Mourinho and Bakayoko have all left. 159 goals scored that season

  60. salparadisenyc

    Not really getting why anyone would put up the daily fight for a manager as dull as Emery.

    Can’t be that hard to grasp the club undershot in hiring him, he’s simply mediocre at the highest level.

  61. Pedro

    Marko,

    You don’t recognise sauce.

    Raul hopefully does.

    He signed Edu. Saucier than Guns stir fry.

    Plenty of saucy managers around, ridiculous assertion to say otherwise.

    Would love Nagelsmann.

  62. Dissenter

    The Monaco team that beat Emery’s PSG to the league was a one off.
    Even Jardim has not been able to replicate anything remotely close to that quality once they were sold off.
    Stop beating Emery with that moldy stick, it’s so stale now. It’s like Leicester winning the league.

  63. Champagne charlie

    Wasi

    I think he’d have provided a lot more than we got from Torreira, dead simple. He addresses an issue we still have in the side, a combative midfielder able give us a foothold.

    And no, I disagree about Torreira, he’s not remotely quick or capable at covering the ground well. Our midfield is void of a player with these qualities in abundance, Willock maybe most likely but his passing is suspect.

  64. Guns of SF

    Wasi

    Im not fortune teller. However, Torreira really struggled at times last season.. the latter half was not impressive as the first was.

    Would Nzonzi help us make top 4? I dont know… but I do know he is prem experienced and probably loads stronger than lil Torr.

    For sure, he is better than Xhaka… what did Xhaka do to us last year? did he help us get better down the stretch? Mr Captain Xhaka?

  65. Dissenter

    Actually, Receding is not defending Emery per se
    I’ve read him write that Emery has little excuses since we have a reasonably god squad now.
    It’s hard to not challenge the proposition that Emery’s quality is like dishwater.
    Is he as good as Klopp or Guardiola?… NO
    Is he a good manager? Certainly yes.

  66. Guns of Hackney

    Shit. I forgot Nagglesmann.

    My view on sauce:

    Someone who emits an aura and makes you believe in what they are saying.

    Someone who can change a team on the fly without looking like they just read a manual.

    Someone who can take a good team and make it better.

    Someone who has an obviously visible style of football that represents the club culture.

    Sauce.

  67. Marko

    There are but two managers in world football with sauce as far as I’m concerned. Pedro and Guns try as they might can’t convince me otherwise. I say try as loosely as possible

  68. Marko

    Someone who can change a team on the fly without looking like they just read a manual.Someone who can take a good team and make it better.Someone who has an obviously visible style of football that represents the club culture.Sauce.

    So Mikel

  69. Champagne charlie

    “It’s hard to not challenge the proposition that Emery’s quality is like dishwater.
    Is he as good as Klopp or Guardiola?… NO
    Is he a good manager? Certainly yes.“

    Who is legitimately calling him a bad manager?

    Only I referenced “dishwater” and it was with regards to what’s been served at Arsenal which I stand by. Saying his level is Sevilla or Valencia isn’t calling him a bad manager is it.

  70. Marko

    Poch, wenger and Pep tried to hire him, pretty sure the guy has sauce.

    Mates of his and his current club were interested in him… unheard of really in football. By that logic Brian Kidd, Jesus Perez and Steve Bould have sauce.

  71. Wasi

    I agree Nzonzi boy better than Xhaka. But buying him meant we would have had to play a midfield of Nzonzi and Xhaka. Now you guys tell me what good does it do to is. Guen would have had his games sure ,but he was up and down last season. Other option Elneny is even more bland than Xhaka and Nzonzi. I would also love to know how would he have impacted the last 5 games of the season and the complete defensive capitulation in the EL final.
    Torreira was a better investment and can be twice the player Nzonzi is at 30.
    I beleive you guys will understand at the end of the season. Ill be bere with the ‘told you so.’

  72. Guns of Hackney

    Same

    I bet we all said that when we hired Arsene back then, too. And no one was saucier than Arsene at his peak.

  73. WengerEagle

    Alex Cutter

    Always found you a cuntpipe and proper funny in equal measure, veering more into each side depending on the topic.

    Genuinely sorry to hear about your situation, hope you pull through it geezer and continue to annoy us for many years to come on here. Don’t tone down the prickishness just yet, plenty of us enjoy it.

    Granit Xhaka two foot that cancer in the teeth lad.

  74. Guns of SF

    Wasi, I hope your right! id love for Torr to be a much better player- and build on his strengths.

    I do think Nzonzi would have provided us some more protection last season…
    Getting our Midfield run over by
    Wolves Palace Leicester and Brighton was too much. A experienced player might have helped us more. Who knows… I hope this season we do much better

  75. Guns of Hackney

    Allegri.

    This is why I don’t write a blog. My facts are off and I forget managers/players names. I also make stuff up.

    I’ll carry on just being really good looking and a massive hit with the ladies and leave the blogging to others less fortunate.

  76. Un na naai

    My biggest worry about xakha now is actually his mentality after his comments in the media about mistakes being highlighted above the chances lost??
    What??

    If that’s how he is thinking after an appealing game defensively then he needs a spell on the sidelines.

    But no. Emery is actually feeding into it. Feeling the damned thing.
    Xakha really needs a few weeks on the bench now to reassess his situation and the way he’s approaching his game.

    The stupid fouls and positional sense. As everyone is aware I’m actually one of the few who sees what he brings to our midfield when he’s not giving away such stupid fouls but spurs was ridiculous.
    The pen give away was probably the stupidest tackle in the box I’ve seen since V Jones was around and then he gives away 7 fouls.

    But that’s not enough. He slows down the game in the last 10 and gets himself sent off giving the yids rhe fucking impetus to push hard when we should have been turning the screw for a winner

    His attitude is all wrong and emery is compounding it.

  77. Luteo Guenreira

    Any good international matches today? Maybe Ireland – Switzerland coming up. Argentina – Chile much later tonight also.

  78. Un na naai

    PedroSeptember 5, 2019 17:15:01
    Marko,You don’t recognise sauce.

    The only sauce marko recognises is the brown sauce he puts in his team and sandwiches

    “It’s da new ting sure”
    “Everyone’s doing it”

  79. Wasi

    “Arteta is a leader and by all accounts, pretty savvy when it comes to all things football. Do not fall into this idiotic trap of “he weren’t a good midfielder so he’ll be a shit manager” BS. Nonsense. He knows his shit and pep has pretty much said as much and basically green lit him for taking over the city job.”

    Could agree with everything .But that doesn’t prove he can lead a dressing room until he’s done it. I heard he wanted power over transfers . Glad Raul didnt allow that. Would Arteta be able to pull Raul-esque deals and balance the books like Don Raul. I Doubt it. This is not to say i dont rate Arteta. I rate him and want him to become a good manager and even manage Arsenal at some point. But Giving him the reigns when we are at the lowest point we have ever been would have been a very big risk . The football and the financial situation at the club was dire when Arsene left. I doubt even Pep or Klopp would have been able to right a ship so wrong in their first season with so little to spend. Also it could have negatively impacted Arteta’s career

  80. Un na naai

    Sf

    The man still has qualities to offer
    Nobody else pops off early forward passes like him in the team. His second half v spurs was actually very good offensively if you watch the game again but he’s just too careless going the other way and Charlie is spot on

    This comes down to shit organisation and a bad attitude. It’s emery’a job to do something about this
    He picks the team. Informs the players of their role. Sets the tactical framework and how to play

    If his CAPTAIN is behaving like this during important matches then what does it say about emery and his approach to these games?

  81. Luteo Guenreira

    The meltdown on LG if Emery gets his third year activated will be epic to watch.

    Cause pretty sure in actuality this scenario is not nearly as far-fetched as the discussions here would make it seem.

  82. WengerEagle

    What about Vieira? He qualify for sauce?

    Finished 7th in Ligue 1 (8th under Favre season before) with a Nice side that lost Balotelli, Plea and Seri without being given money to reinvest. Literally gutted his side of goalscorers.

    Has started this season with 3 wins from 4 in the league, most recently beat league leaders Rennes away from home with a last minute winner.

  83. Wasi

    Luteo
    Id happily hand Emery a 3rd year granted he can close the gap to the top to 12-16 points. Unless Pep or Klopp want to come here . Unlikely.

  84. Leedsgunner

    Did anyone else hear the news out yesterday that the transfer window is going to close on the end of August/beginning of September like it used to before…

    Frightening to think what more could have been done if Raul had more time…

  85. Wasi

    WE
    I don’t watch Ligue 1 ao cant really say. Definitely Viera could handle a room . Always had a personality. Does he have the tactical acumen. A philosophy ? Can he make split second decision in-game? If he can then he fulfills all the criterias granted he has white teeth.

  86. WengerEagle

    Rate Poch as a manager (not as much as TR7 ha) but he really did embarrass himself these past few weeks.

    Pathetic his bleating was, bitching and whingeing about unsettled players because of the market and deflecting attention away from their hapless form away from home.

    Playing the tortured soul in pressers, really was cringe.

  87. N5

    “is this just millennial codespeak for charisma?”

    Ha ha, I’ve been thinking the same thing for a while. I have no idea what a saucy manager is. Saucy used to mean being rude 😀

  88. Guns of SF

    UNNAI

    I think the point you are missing is that Xhaka is making the same mistakes chronically. He lacks speed, speed of thought, and cannot position himself in the right ways. He gets blown by constantly. Again a lack of mobility for him.
    Also, panics when inside the box. Lunges all the time. I have no doubt that someone has spoken to him, shown video etc.

    The reality is that his skill set is not helping us – and his weaknesses are hurting us.

    We need mobile CM- Willock, Guen Torr etc….

    Im not sure how much Emery can change Xhaka.
    Sure he has a good shot at times and makes decent passes, but we need more than that… WIllock can do that, others can too

  89. Leftsidesanch

    Leeds and N5, lol I thought annoying rappers with rainbow hair used that term.

    My 12 year old who’s just started year 8 today and his friends use words like sauce.

    I’ve seen Drake use it, who’s a good rapper but as corny as they come.

  90. Leftsidesanch

    Haha I’m def still in, I’m too young to be out of it just yet N5. I think Pedros been having too much fun in NYC with his Metrocard listening in on the youngsters convos.

  91. N5

    Leftside I’m only 40 you whipper snapper so I should still be cool shouldn’t I? If you say no I’ll take of these corduroy trousers and throw my pipe at you!!

    Thanks for the explanation Pedders. Sven G though, is that for real or sarcasm?

  92. Un na naai

    SF

    yes but he can do better. We’ve all seen it. With Torreira behind him last year he was actually very good.
    So what does emery do? Move things around and put Torreira in front of xakha.
    Exactly what wenger did. And now look. Back to his old self.

    If xakha is going to play and we all know sure as eggs is eggs he will, then emery needs to do what he can to protect the weaknesses in his game
    Curb his attitude and rash nature and ensure the full backs and dm protect the space behind him so he’s never (or far less frequently) on the back foot, panicking and diving in.
    I don’t think the midfield 3 he went for Saturday was that bad at all. It’s how he deployed them.

  93. Un na naai

    Rappers are all wankers who never grew up

    Pull your trousers up, stop slouching
    And learn to speak mongo. Having a gold tooth isn’t cool. Ian Wright did it in the 90s and it was as ugly then as it is now

    Go near my daughter again and I’ll castrate you and your gang of inbred mates

  94. Guns of SF

    Unnai

    The issue isnt so much where Torreira is- its the fact that Xhaka offers hardly little cover at all not matter where he is. Torreira is only trying to mop up xhaka’s mistakes, which basically makes Torr a one dimensional player

    Torr can pass well too!

    I think Xhaka needs a league that is slower, more time and space- ditto Ozil.

    he does not track players nor keep an eye on them. Why all the lunges?? He is out of position becuase he is dense and slow as molasses.

    He is a conundrum that is not easy to fix at all

  95. Un na naai

    Sf

    Maybe. I could t care less really. Tell emery. I won’t be the one picking him every week
    Emery will. So he’d better learn how best to use him or expect more points to be dropped and another dull and lifeless season.

    We got our arsenal back
    Loooooool. Yeah. Arsenal from 93-95
    In fact even that’s an insult
    That team could defend. It had some flair.

  96. Guns of SF

    Cant wait for Tierney to come back- and hopefully NO set backs…
    he and Bellerin should help the wings much more…

    Yes Xhaka is the entire teams problem. Emery needs to have some cojones and drop him. He almost cost us all 3 pts last Sunday

  97. Guns of SF

    Northbanker

    That is what I feel would happen if UE gets cut.
    Freddie will be appointed. I think the club moved him to the first team as a contingency plan….

  98. DaleDaGooner

    Sauce dripping from the hose after a little bit of excitement…some managers just jizz it up, others…..meh..like an underwhelming quickie.

  99. Samesong

    Changing the subject slightly I just changed from iPhone to Samsung and I must say I’m loving the Samsung experience.

  100. DaleDaGooner

    Emery’s sauce is one his wife found in his fruit of the loom when she was doing the laundry right after the EL final…

  101. Silverhawk

    Gabriel Martinelli in his interview with Brazilian outlet Lance:

    “The coach is a great person, and I’m learning a lot from him on a daily basis. I try to do my best in training so that, when I have the opportunity, to grasp it with everything.”

    BuT eMeRy DoEsNt DeVelOp TaLeNt

  102. Cesc Appeal

    I want to see Martinelli getting more games.

    The first Europa League fixture is tough as group stage Europa League fixtures go but he should be starting.

  103. Luteo Guenreira

    I have a couple phones and have used both iPhones and Samsungs simultaneously for some years now.

    The difference is pretty much zero if you know how to use both operating systems thoroughly. There is literally nothing you can do with one that you can’t with the other, the methods are just different is all. It’s mostly a matter of preference at this point, since they are all so powerful now. Not that I need lots of functions to watch mobile porn in the bathroom.

  104. Cesc Appeal

    Luteo

    No one cares about how they work…which one has sauce, literally is all that is import.

    Don’t want to hear about battery life, don’t want to hear about memory, don’t want to hear about apps.

    Which has sauce?

  105. Samesong

    Cesc

    Martinelli looks a prospect not scared to run at players surely emery could bring in for last minutes when we are in a good position in game.