Best 3 man midfield?

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Let’s get right into it, the reason Emery played Mikhi is because he didn’t know the player was heading out to Roma on loan. The player found out AFTER the game.

I don’t really care either way, why would you bring on Mikhi regardless?

It seems more and more like young kids are being pushed onto Emery.

Telling that the manager had to be convinced by the stats guys at Arsenal that LT was a better choice than Nzonzi. Great to see that someone at the club was taming Emery’s inner Tony Pulis.

Ultimately, there’s no point in trying to flog a dead horse. I understand why Emery would rather bet his house on experience, but for me, when that experience consistently lets you down, why not try something a little more unpredictable… something that actually has something to prove.

There are now no excuses for Reiss. He is going to have rough games, but he has to deal with that. He has to build mental toughness quickly and he simply has to take his chances. A few goals under his belt or an elite assist should have him on his way.

He needs to be the best he can be and leave himself no excuses come the end of the season. I guess the folly of youth is you don’t realise that a little more focus can have a chain effect on your life. I’d imagine the worst thing for an elite athlete is think they blew a football career because they were chasing babes in Basildon.

Same goes for ESR, Gabriel and Saka. Take those opps and make it impossible for the manager to ignore you… just like Matteo and AMN did last season.

Granit Xhaka had a message for the haters (worst turn of phrase ever).

“Of course critics are always here. The North London derby, I think we had a good game. I made a mistake with the penalty but if you saw the game, we could have won.

“We had a lot of chances but this is football. Nobody speaks about the chances, nobody speaks about how many we missed. They always speak about the mistakes.

“This is part of football.”

Come on Granit, the only reason we talk about your mistakes is because they are so regular.

I think we all understand that we’re overweight, slow and shite at sport… but come on, if Fat Dave in your Sunday League team did that, he’d be getting a bus back home and you’d piss in his kit bag.

What, too far?

Another player who made a mistake was Bernd Leno. It looked like he was caught off guard by the lacklustre pace of the Lamela strike and couldn’t change his palm to a catch.

‘I think the first goal was a little bit unlucky. I couldn’t catch the ball completely and then I tried to get up but Eriksen scored, it was unlucky but that is the life of a goalkeeper. For me it was then like the team, I had to stand up. It is not a big problem just because we conceded a goal, I had to stay positive and I thought after that I did a very good job.’

He’s a great shotstopper and he did a good job the rest of the game, but he really needs to have a few quiet games. He was bullied by Burnley and my worry is that’s an opening for teams like Watford to target him. The toughest thing for a keeper in the Premier League is the highballs, namely because you get charged down by thugs. He’s clearly a confidence keeper, I just hope he doesn’t have a dip like he did at his last club.

I have faith…

What I am wondering is whether Emery is going to persist with the 3 man midfield that looks basically like three holding midfielders. The decision to do that doesn’t seem to be paying any dividends. We give up creativity moving forward and we’re viscous through back. Quite incredible how easy our three holding players were to play through in the first half.

There needs to be a solution. I think having a more attacking threat could help. Still not quite sure what the best midfield is, but it’s looking more and more like LT, Matteo and Ceballos… though I wouldn’t be shocked to see Willock given more regular game time. Emery likes powerful players and you’d be hard pushed not to feel that Willock is stronger than LT.

We’ll see though… right, that’s all I have.

Big love to Alex Cutter from the comments. A laser-focused beast to everyone, always on the edge of a ban, long may that continue. x

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Champagne charlie

“From last night. Apparently sauce equals owning a room. Not much to do with management that.“ Let’s all point and laugh, owning a room has nothing to do with management… Uber lol Owning a room alludes to engagement and leadership, now tell me those aren’t absolutely vital to getting a group of 23 millionaire man-child’s (manchildren?) to pull one direction – assuming you have a direction. The ability to captivate attention has long been one of the most valued human qualities. Amazing to dismiss such a trait, what the fuck kind of manager have you ever dealt with? Some cunt… Read more »

Dissenter

Le ‘Equipe; Ousmane Dembele ‘halted Neymar’s return to Barcelona’ after refusing to move to Paris Saint-Germain.

I don’t blame him.
The planets don’t have to re-align to accommodate Neymar. He laid that bed so he can just lounge in it now.

His infleunce s diinished anywhere he goes; Brazil won the Copa America without him, Barca made him grovel and PSG fans wont forget his perfidy.

HighburyLegend

“Take the L and join the movement.”

Favourite Pedro tv show : “The L Word”.

Ishola70

Emiratesstroller “We can criticise ad infinitum individual players in the defensive segment of the team, but the facts are that we have brought into the club over last decade a large number of centre backs, full backs and defensive midfielders who were highly rated at previous clubs and international teams.Yet when they arrive at Arsenal they are either underperforming or considered dogshit.You have to ask the question why that occurs so frequently and more particularly the problem repeats itself ad infinitum?” Xhaka shows the same weaknesses for the Swiss national team as he does for Arsenal so this wanting to… Read more »

Dissenter

*His influence is diminished anywhere he goes;

Marko

The attacking stats against Spurs suggest that going with a Midfield three wasn’t the problem but rather the personnel or rather one individual was the problem.

Guns of SF

Nzonzi would be preferred over xhaka if UE likes taller players.
Better player IMO

Anyhow, hopefully Guen and keep it going and Torriera can start and finish a game

Samesong

Grant Hacker – Took me a minute to realise who Grant Hacker was!

Dissenter

Xhaka Everything that has to be said about Xhaka’s lack of quality has been said, most of it incontrovertible. That said, if you were manager, would you just freeze him out a la Mustafi of find ways to continue using him, albeit less often and in less intense situations. We don’t have enough bodies in the midfield…for now. The manager runs the risk of breaking bodies if he drops Xhaka completely. Ceballos is new to England and can easily burn out once we get past the Christmas period. He needs to be managed carefully Willocks and Guen are 19/20 years… Read more »

Dissenter

DM; ‘It’s never going to happen’: Sporting Lisbon’s president RUBBISHES Tottenham’s chances of winning Premier League or Champions League after they included an £18m ‘success clause’ in summer offer for Bruno Fernandes

IT’S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
The success clause ought to have been that they will pay 18 million if they fill their stadium to capacity 10 times in one season

DigitalBob

I’d freeze him out, fuck it. he’s a liability and prone to do what he always does. Emery needs to be very wary of sticking with a guy that will cost you points on a consistent basis.

We have other options now and should go with them.

Marko

Charles given the example used originally I’m not sure Pedro was talking about or certainly could prove that Emery could or couldn’t control a dressing room. Simply stating that Wenger could control a room (?) or Mourinho a small built studio at a ground isn’t an example of sauce.

Ishola70

As others have said not only is Xhaka a lump and poor off the ball he is arrogant to go along with it so this is a really poor set of circumstances regarding this player.

His arrogance as others have implied most likely means he will not learn from his mistakes.

shad

@Dissenter, I think Emery picks Xhaka for the reasons you’ve mentioned or because Xhaka has damning pictures of Emery somewhere as blackmail. Anyway, I think we have enough in a season to cover for Xhaka should we relegate him to the reserves completely. ESR, Willock, Ceballos, and in home games as someone pointed out, occasionally play Ozil to rest Ceballos. Also we can conservatively use Chambers (he did excel for Fulham in the CDM position), for less intense games and to some extent, even David Luiz can be shifted forward, as he has the range of passing and is two-footed.… Read more »

Sid

Wilcock mate-yo lookarse ceBALLS alot of sauce dripping there

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Dissenter,

No need to freeze Xhaka out a la Mustafi – he is still pretty useful in possession against teams that don’t press and in matches against “bottom 10” teams.

Just don’t play him against teams that press or who are expected us put us for long periods of sustained pressure: Spurs, Man C, Liverpool, Chelsea etc.

Marko

Dissenter pretty much stuck with old granite I’ve come to terms with it though I’d like to think that we’re not so dependant on him anymore. Here’s hoping that Vieira when he comes one of the first things he asks for is the removal of Xhaka. That’s a slight worry about Nagelsmann for me I think he might like him as a player

Marko

Yeah just don’t play Xhaka against any of the other top 6 sides especially away from home in the league. Great we now have two players like that. Let’s keep it going add Kolasinac and AMN to the list and we can really start to improve

Wasi

Nzonzi over torreira. Laughable!. Criminal! One player is at the end of his career and cant keep up with the pace of Serie A while the other was being heralded as next Kante. We don’t make CL now ppl ou’ere claiming Nzonzi would have taken us to CL gardens. What a Joke. Man is as slow as Xhaka probably even slower and doesn’t even have the passing ability of the Swiss. You dont want us to buy Banega but are vouching for Nzonzi who is a lesser player to Banega in literally all aspects of the game other than height.… Read more »

Ishola70

Dissenter is right to some extent. The only reason Xhaka has seen so many games at Arsenal despite being laughed at by other clubs supporters and the media is because the overall options for midfield at Arsenal for more than enough seasons has been sub-standard. But there is a combination of aspects now which can see Xhaka eased out and this season as well. First aspect is that Xhaka will continue to make errors in the side. Second more important aspect will be the emergence of Guendouzi. I said after the Newcastle match that Guendouzi looked a much better player… Read more »

DigitalBob

Not playing him entirely is preferable, top 6 or bottom 6. He’s taking valuable minutes away from the other midfielders.

HighburyLegend

“he is still pretty useful in possession against teams that don’t press”
Just like Ozil!! Coincidence ?? lol

“Granit”… Xhaka’s parents were on heavy drugs when they gave him that stupid name.

Ishola70

True Mako.

Can’t go on about only playing these players in certain matches.

If they are spared some matches due to inadequacies that should mean they are not good enough for Arsenal at all.

Receding Hairline

“Can’t go on about only playing these players in certain matches.”

Never figured out how anyone types that with a straight face

So essentially the player is a flat track bully and you believe that is okay

Who now plays those tough games then and why can’t the same player get to coast against the non pressure sides

Champagne charlie

“Nzonzi over torreira.
Laughable!. Criminal!
One player is at the end of his career and cant keep up with the pace of Serie A while the other was being heralded as next Kante.“

Last season lad, we missed out CL by a point and Torreira was a spectator for half the games.

Nzonzi would’ve done a better job for last years target, and it’s still very much up in the air that Torreira will make any impact as an Arsenal player. Nzonzi, for his limitations, was exactly as advertised and used to the prem.

Valentin

Carrying a room is an apt analogy for having charisma. Some teachers go to a room and all the student immediately sit down. Some pupils just ignore them and or shout at him sit down. Same with coaches, some coaches arrive in a room and immediately players stop and listen. They carry an aura, a presence that can be explained. Of course if they are incompetent at their job, the aura pretty quickly dissipate. But if they are competent, that aura helps convincing egocentric players to work the extra mile, to sacrifice their own personal gain for the team. I… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Side note: has anyone ever seen Ishola comment about anything besides Xhaka?

Bet he’s a scorned lover.

Dissenter

I think Xhaka needs to be handled the same way we handle Ozil
Play him in only very restricted situations.
I think we extended the contracts of Elneny and Xhaka because the contract negotiations with Ramsey were too protracted.

Receding Hairline

“One player is at the end of his career and cant keep up with the pace of Serie A while the other was being heralded as next Kante.”

One day the penny will drop that Torriera and Kante’s only similarity is in height, both are 5ft 6 ” and that is where it ends.

Receding Hairline

“I think Xhaka needs to be handled the same way we handle Ozil
Play him in only very restricted situations.”

Please stop

Dissenter

Valentin
“I don’t like Mourinho, but there are very few people who could convince Samuel Eto to play fullback in a Champion’s League final for the good of the team.”

You know Enery once played Xhaka as right back.
You’re giving Mourhino credit for nothing.

Ishola70

Charlie

Yes I post plenty other than Xhaka but as said before Xhaka is one big problem for the side and is naturally focused on.

That it seems to irritate you is only because you have supported Xhaka. Misplaced support may I add.

Dissenter

Receding
Are you suggesting that Xhaka is dropped completely like Mustafi?
Where’s the extra body going to come from?
Drafting in Chambers means one less body in central defense.

Valentin

Dissenter,

Samuel Eto had the reputation of being one of the biggest ego in African football.

Asking a world class striker who think that he is the best in the world to play fullback in the Champion’s League final in front of everybody is a lot more involved than asking a mediocre midfield player to play fullback.

Receding Hairline

“Receding
Are you suggesting that Xhaka is dropped completely like Mustafi?”

No, players can also be sold. The fact Mustafi dug his heels in does not mean everyone should. If we cannot trust Xhaka in every game he is picked to play but can trust 20 year old Guendouzi what does that say about Xhaka?

Ishola70

And me going on about Xhaka seems to have been justified Charlie.

Because he causes plenty of furore for Arsenal fans as a whole on more than enough occasions and enough now for plenty of fans to want to see him dropped from the side.

Others catch up over time.

Receding Hairline

“Drafting in Chambers means one less body in central defense.”

The day i see Chambers in central midfield for Arsenal is the day i write an anti Emery post more petty than any written here ever, even Valentin go weak

Receding Hairline

Keane has also laid into the close relationship other members of Ferguson’s family were allowed with the club. His son Darren picked up a Premier League winner’s medal in 1993 after making 15 appearances under his father, before a career that saw him roam between the lower division in England and Europe. And Keane suggests that the chance to break into the Premier League would not have been afforded to him under any other boss. ‘People said [Ferguson] always had the best interests of Manchester United at heart. Darren Ferguson [his son] won a medal. He was very lucky. ‘[Alex… Read more »

Words on a Blog

Receding,

1) Emery plays reactive football, creating a first 11 and formation taking into account the likely strengths of our opponents

2) if our opponents are either strong pressers or are expected to have dangerous periods of sustained possession, itmfollows that he should select the players best equipped to deal with these circumstances.

3) Xhaka is definitely not the best player to deal with pressing or dang attacking opponents.

4) so what exactly is your problem with Emery not selecting him for those kinds of matches?

Valentin

Xhaka may be deluded, but he also knew enough that had he refused to play at left back he would have been out of the starting eleven permanently and more likely out of Arsenal at the end of the season.
Once a player is catalogued as a trouble maker at a big club, there are suddenly less bigger club interested in him. As Xhaka still harbour the will to go to a bigger club (please don’t laugh), he was unlikely to put his career in jeopardy.

Samesong

Xhaka vs N’Zonzi Whilst Xhaka may also have a presence in the centre of the pitch, this is where his similarities with the Sevilla midfielder end. N’Zonzi has a clean disciplinary record, and does not have a proclivity to dive into tackles recklessly, yet in comparison, Xhaka has picked up nine red cards in three years, two as an Arsenal player. If Emery signs N’Zonzi, he would be a welcome form of calmness and rationale in the centre of the midfield, balancing out Arsenal’s attacking style of play with his defensive stability. N’Zonzi is also faster than Xhaka and could… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Words my problem is not selecting him is an admission he is not reliable nor good enough, he wears the captain armband, if he cannot lead the troops when a difficult game is anticipated what is the point?

” Emery plays reactive football, creating a first 11 and formation taking into account the likely strengths of our opponents”

Emery will not be here for ever, we won’t continue to react forever

Champagne charlie

“That it seems to irritate you is only because you have supported Xhaka. Misplaced support may I add.“ Irritates me no more than Pierre talking Ozil, doesn’t make it any less of a fixation. My “support”, as you claim, comes in the fact I don’t consider him a donkey and recognise what he does bring despite your backhanded comments continually falling his way. I’ve said numerous times I’ve no issue selling him or replacing him, but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good waffle. The teams issues are bigger than Xhaka, that’s my take, always has… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Samesong Nzonzi pisses all over Xhaka, if we signed Nzonzi we would have moved on Xhaka, i was a proponent of that signing last summer, everyone was hung up on his age and the fact he once played for Stoke

Ivan Perisic is 30 and he just joined Bayern

Words on a Blog

Receding,

I’m not talking about forever, just the next 20-25 matches or so!

Until January, he can’t be sold. In the meanwhile, it’s best to use him in matches where his skill-set, weaknesses and profile are most suitable.

Receding Hairline

Words Brighton last season were they a pressing team?

DaleDaGooner

So have been trying to post since yesterday, just short of words reading from Alex Cutter….stay strong…many years ago, i just became really sensitive towards people going through Cancer….apparently, if fate was anything to go by, two of my most beloved people got the disease and sent them to their graves….It has been tough to say the least, reason why i post less and less times…. Alex, i do feel down by what you are going through, but i LIKE your mind set and how you’re battling this….perhaps it’s good you don’t have an immediate family or bad that you… Read more »

DaleDaGooner

N’Zonzi is still a thing in Le Grove???? i think i’d much rather a player like Doucoure …no way Emery would get rid of Xhaka even with N’zonzi…he seems fascinated with the idea of shoehorning Xhaka into the first 11.

grooveydaddy

Dissenter

He played Xhaka at left back against C Palace I think.

And lo and behold….he cost us points.

Receding Hairline

N’Zonzi is still a thing in Le Grove?

No he isn’t

Just reacting to the report Emery preferred him to “next” Kante

That ship has sailed, let’s all hope Torriera does develop into the player most think he is this season, we are already seeing good development in Guendouzi who was also Lost since January

Receding Hairline

“He played Xhaka at left back against C Palace I think.”

Against Leicester first were it worked then against Palace where it didn’t and he has never tried that again

Receding Hairline

“Wenger, for all his decline, almost never had leaks from the dressing room.” What was there to leak? “Emery, in his first season couldn’t motivate his team to show in a cup final, ” Klopp lost about 9 straight finals before winning this year with Liverpool and he has all the charisma a man will ever need. In the Europa league final we had a fantastic first half, promptly lost our heads when the first goal went in and AMN gave away two in quick succession, who needs facts when you can talk sauce though “‘No evidence Emery can’t hold… Read more »

Marko

I don’t like Mourinho, but there are very few people who could convince Samuel Eto to play fullback in a Champion’s League final for the good of the team.

Christ you talk some shite. Asking someone on the RW to put in defensive work isn’t the same as asking them to play as a fullback. They started with Maicon and Zanetti in that final and you’d like people to believe that Eto’o was also playing RB. Ridiculous.

Receding Hairline

“German Klopp has lost his previous six finals, including his last three in Europe, and is yet to win silverware after three attempts with Liverpool.”

I stand corrected, it was six

Champagne charlie

“What was there to leak?“

Should’ve been a lot for how dire and repetitive things got. I’d say the loyalty shown by more than the vast majority of his ex-players speaks to his ability as a leader rightly or wrongly.

Hard to deny that players bought into his philosophy. Only really broke in his very final season after Xmas when we were so far off anything relatable to modern Arsenal you could only laugh.

Marko

Wenger, for all his decline, almost never had leaks from the dressing room. What’s this nonsense now? Oh yeah I remember you going on about something last season what was it only a real manager or man or whatever could stop leaks from happening. As for the sauce stuff again it’s just the usual types throwing it around without explaining it’s meaning in reference to management. How is it that Emery doesn’t have sauce? What is it that makes the likes of Tuchel and Poch dripping in it? I’m genuinely interested. Big fan of the early signs of management from… Read more »

Marko

Overpaid underperforming players who kept seeing game time why indeed leak anything. Besides which it’s a football club what interesting leaks ever cone from that

Also ex players and all the nice things they say never really applies to Emery am I right.

Receding Hairline

“Should’ve been a lot for how dire and repetitive things got. I’d say the loyalty shown by more than the vast majority of his ex-players speaks to his ability as a leader rightly or wrongly.”

They didn’t need to leak anything, the ones who saw he was going nowhere simply left, he had ultimate power, what exactly was a leak going to get you? Situation is different now, players can actually see who Emery answered to so it’s easy to attempt to undermine him, who was Wenger answerable to?

Samesong

Pedro

Why don’t you just say the man lacks personality, he lacks presence! All this sauce bollocks that you talk about is just a slang term which most people would not understand.

I understand totally what your’e on about being a london lad u get me!

Receding Hairline

“Hard to deny that players bought into his philosophy. ” Hard to deny that Unai Emery’s players at Lorca bought into his philosophy hence a first promotion in their history Hard to deny Almeria players bought into his philosophy hence a first promotion to La Liga and a eight place finish first time of asking Hard to deny Sevilla players bought into his mastering of the Europa league hence three straight wins Hard to deny the revolving door of players at Valencia listened to him hence three straight third place finishes in La Liga (i know you are more concerned… Read more »

Dissenter

Receding
Player can be sold…true…but only when the transfer window opens

Until then, the situation still has to be managed.

Champagne charlie

“You don’t get it. It’s either because you work in an area that doesn’t require it, or you are on the spectrum in some way and actually don’t understand it.“

😂😂

jwl

“Wenger, for all his decline, almost never had leaks from the dressing room.”

This is revisionist bullsh*t, Pedro. The last three or four seasons under Wenger, there would be a story in Feb or March about how the squad were aware things were going tits up and they would work together to make things right despite Wenger and his methods.

Receding Hairline

“RH, what are you really arguing here? That Klopp and Emery are the same?”

Not arguing, simply stating that losing or winning a cup final is not sauce dependent or charisma dependent. Not an argument, simply stating a fact and citing an example that one of the most charismatic men in football lost six straight finals.

Samesong

Samesong, I write a blog, not a government help site. I don’t need to change my words to help people along with basics.

Good on you mate.

Wasi

Replying to all Nzonzi would of got us CL peeps. Ok so if we had bought Nzonzi over Torreira we would have had 2 of the most slowest players in the league. And the most Slowest midfield in the league. We would of had a player with zero resale value who couldn’t even get a spot in Roma’s 11 in a league which is very very slow as compared to the Prem. He couldn’t handle Prem in his younger years what makes yall think he could of ripped it in his latter years. His goal involvement is negligible. His passing… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Receding This is where you fall off the cliff of reasonable. Lorca, and Almeria he achieved. Then he stepped up a level…… Valencia you say he achieved, but it had a ceiling that’s been broken through by Simeone. So what stopped Emery? Sevilla you say he achieved…….in the Europa league. Huge asterisk there. What about La Liga? Best in the EL but not better than 5th in Spain? Explain. Then he stepped up again…. PSG wasn’t a success, he couldn’t handle a Jardim side and was thoroughly out coached over the course of the season. Harsh, but fair appraisal. Now… Read more »

Marko

Marko, I can’t keep explaining what stands people out from being an capable manager to being a great leader. You haven’t explained once. You certainly haven’t explained how Poch has sauce or how missing out on Arteta was us again passing on elite management again. You said that. You don’t get it. It’s either because you work in an area that doesn’t require it, or you are on the spectrum in some way and actually don’t understand it. That’s fucking nice. For someone who is so quick with the ban hammer you are very quick to insult. Totally understandable when… Read more »

jwl

Charisma is intangible, some people think Klopp has presence or aura while others will think he clown. I judge a manager on how many trophies he won, does he improve squad from previous coach, that is all that matters.

Using charisma as metric is dumb because there will be disagreement about who has sauce and who doesn’t but winning matches/trophies is tangible. When Emery and Poch retire, who will be more happy with their career – the guy with multiple trophies or the one who stagnated at Spuds and won no trophies despite having top quality squad?

Champagne charlie

Wasi

No offence, that block writing style is hard to work through. But Torreira isn’t a ground covering dynamo like you make out, he’s slow as fuck.

Nzonzi would’ve had no resale blah blah as noted, but we’d have been better equipped last season with him over Torreira. Pretty fair and basic claim imo. The lack of resale value mitigated by the huge CL windfall. Swings and roundabouts eh

Guns of SF

I only brought up NZonzi has he was heavily speculated to be on the list of transfers that UE wanted.

I stand by what I say… Nzoniz is much more the player than the POS Xhaka.

He has much more stability to the game. Good passer, Tall, faster, better on set pieces, corners, etc. He is 6’5

Please someone tell me how Xhaka is better than him.

Also, dont get me wrong, Im no Nzonzi fan boy but compared to Xhaka, he is better

Receding Hairline

“Hard to deny that players bought into his philosophy. ” This is what we are debating Charles, Pedro says players do not believe in him but it has been proven at a certain level that players do believe in him . Simple I don’t care about the what happened or did not happen when he stepped up debate He stepped up at PSG and won 7/10 trophies available , out coached by Jardim is no shame seeing Jardim had quite a squad that year and is back to his level it seems He stepped up at Arsenal and his team… Read more »

karim

Laporte out for the next 4 months

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“PSG wasn’t a success, he couldn’t handle a Jardim side and was thoroughly out coached over the course of the season. Harsh, but fair appraisal”

Unai Emery has faced Leonardo Jardim eight times in his career, he has won SIX , drew one and lost ONE

Thoroughly out coached is quite the over statement but whatever

Marko

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/what-unai-emerys-former-players-have-said-about-arsenals-new-boss/ Anonymous Almeria player aside some great players in there. David Silva: “I know Unai Emery personally and I know that’s he going to get the absolute best that he can out of that squad of players, he’s a top manager.” David Villa: “It was an honour for me to work with Unai. He is a great person and a great coach who helped me immensely in my career during the time we were together. I wish him well. For me, he’s one of the top coaches around today.” Not a man great players wil buy into for sure. How… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Receding

I know what was being discussed, I was illustrating that whatever you consider his philosophy it was less and was effective with every step up the ladder in quality.

Great at Almeria, dishwater at Arsenal.

I cote Simeone because you’ve often stated previously that Valencia finishing 3rd was imperious stuff. To me it’s worth noting that a comparable side was managed to greater feats thus showing the idea of Spain as a two team race is a matter of convenience.

Champagne charlie

“Thoroughly out coached is quite the over statement but whatever“

I’ll go ahead and disagree on that one, you’ve done the same with regard to Poch but on both occasions which coach finished ahead of the other at the end of the season?

Jardim, then Poch. A head to head record is a insignificant when considering the vast array of coaching needed for a season. Both outdid Emery.

Receding Hairline

I know what was being discussed, I was illustrating that whatever you consider his philosophy it was less and was effective with every step up the ladder in quality. We were not talking philosophy Discussion was the ability to lead men, to motivate them to perform above their collective, he did that at Lorca, Almeria and Valencia (through serious financial constraints to the point his work there has been termed miraculous many times) and he was a success for Sevilla no matter how you want to paint it, speak to any Sevilla fan and they have no issues with Unai… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“Great at Almeria, dishwater at Arsenal”.

Dishwater? No exaggeration there at all. You are so objective it’s blinding

jwl

Pedro I don’t need to get emails from Gazidis supporting insiders to know that there were big stories every year in Feb and March that players were aware of Wenger faults and they were trying to rectify them.

Champagne charlie

Receding

Doing that thing you do now.

1. His philosophy gets less substantive the higher the level.
2. Or his ability to lead/manage higher level players/egos diminishes

Pick one, that’s the trend I illustrated. Why did he do great at Almeria but has flattered to deceive at PSG and Arsenal?

azed

“Using charisma as metric is dumb because there will be disagreement about who has sauce and who doesn’t but winning ”

Pedro uses “sauce” because its neither objective nor measurable but subject to his personal interpretation .
I posted some xG metric yesterday and despite what Pedro, CC and co would like you to believe, we scored more than Spurs, created more than Spurs and had a better xG than Spurs.
For a coach who is bland, reactive and visionless, the numbers suggest that Emery is a better attacking coach than special sauce Poch.

Marko

Valencia you say he achieved, but it had a ceiling that’s been broken through by Simeone. So what stopped Emery? Lol. Cause of course situations were the same. PSG wasn’t a success, he couldn’t handle a Jardim side and was thoroughly out coached over the course of the season. I’ll have to revert you to my good friend Charlie from 2018 who said “You’re going OTT about losing the league to Monaco, there was no ‘one horse race’ there and you’re certainly smart enough to appreciate that cmon man.You’d be an incredibly harsh judge to pick apart his undertakings at… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“I’ll go ahead and disagree on that one, you’ve done the same with regard to Poch but on both occasions which coach finished ahead of the other at the end of the season?”

Jardim finished ahead of him once winning the league title, he won the other three trophies on offer in the country beating Jardim 4-1 in a final. saying a man who has only beaten the other once out coached him is silly. There are various things that go into a season

Receding Hairline

“Pick one, that’s the trend I illustrated. Why did he do great at Almeria but has flattered to deceive at PSG and Arsenal?”

He won 7/10 trophies at PSG and moved on, the man who replaced him has not exactly set Paris alight. He has not flattered to do anything at Arsenal, bit too hasty that

Champagne charlie

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The league is the measure of consistency, always has been. So Emery is a cup manager?

Marko
So Emery wasn’t out coached by Jardim, PSG won the league that year did they? No, no they didn’t. He wasn’t out coached and thus a failure given the remit.

Samesong

At the highest level, that something extra special is what makes you elite and allows you to drive people to the next level.

So after all that faff and government site sark you explained yourself lol. Good on you.

HighburyLegend

“Laporte out for the next 4 months”

The scoop which change your life.
Thanks a lot for passing by, school’s out ??

Champagne charlie

“He won 7/10 trophies at PSG and moved on, the man who replaced him has not exactly set Paris alight. He has not flattered to do anything at Arsenal, bit too hasty that“

Moved on? Did Emery not want to stay in Paris? Fill me in. Tuchel isn’t in the discussion here so keep on track and ignore the distraction tactics.

I beg to differ thank you, with 6 games to go and sitting in 3rd place, with a EL final ahead, “flattering to deceive” is a kind way of describing what then unfolded.

Marko

X factor is intangible, but normal humans recognise it. It’s not a point of debate whether it’s real or not. If it weren’t, knowing things would be the basis of leadership. It’s not.

No one’s denying that it’s a real thing. What instead is being discussed and disregarded by you is the your ability to prove that this person has sauce while this other person doesn’t. Take Poch for example I’d genuinely be interested in how you can prove his sauciness outside of some dismissive and snarky comments I don’t think you could.

Samesong

At the highest level, that something extra special is what makes you elite and allows you to drive people to the next level.

This guy is someone with sauce.

https://andyfrisella.com

Champagne charlie

“Thanks a lot for passing by, school’s out ??“

Must be if you’re here to offer fuck all.

Karim
Saw that. Comes literally a week after Pep claimed him one of the best in Europe. Big blow for them.

Words on a Blog

In the beginning was the Sauce, and the Sauce was cooked up by Pedro, and bestowed by Pedro upon his favoured Anointed Ones, whom he lovethed and coveted. Amongst them, of course, was the Pep and the Klopp, and the Mighty Poch of Tottenhamia, notwithstanding his lack of trophies, and Arteta The Assistant With the Perfect Hair. Even the Evil Snake Mourinho was bestowed with sauce, despite the misery and discord he sowed everywhere he went. But one Basqoman understood that he would never be graced with Sauce, no matter how many trophies he won in the past, how well… Read more »