Great result in the Ashes.
Incredible result in Spurs home game against the unstoppable machine that is Steve Bruce’s Newcastle.
The mighty Geordies stole the game 0-1 after a lovely finish from Joelinton, a striker not really known for goals.
Poch hasn’t won an away game since Jan, he’s only won 4 games in his last 15, and he is looking extremely arsey in his prezzers.
You could almost feel for him. Emery is out here praying that we sell Mustafi and Elneny, Poch might yet lose Jan Vertonghen, Toby Aldeweirald and Christian Eriksen.
If those three go, they are in desperate trouble this season. It’s like Spurs are finally paying the price for a criminally low wage bill. Those three leave and it’ll be a huge blow for morale, technical capability, experience levels and their chances of top 4.
Add to that the rumour that Spurs were 10k short for the Newcastle game and they had to literally give tickets away to pump their numbers (unverified).
Hate to see it, honestly.
In Arsenal news, poor old Unai is taking a hammering from all corners after his tactical disaster-class against Liverpool. Not really my bag to talk tactics, but I kind of feel he was fucked whichever route he took.
Why would he start Lacazette… who has a horrendous record away from home? Why would there be a consideration for Mesut Ozil? The guy is an absolute wimp. What was he supposed to do about the full-back situation?
My main critique would be how tepid we were. We’re not fierce in these games. Emery isn’t decisive when things go wrong. He’s also very uncreative when it comes to fixing problems as they happen.
I think he’s scared. He knows that this year he has to improve. He knows there are a whole bunch of underlying statistics he’s going to have to attack. I’d imagine that is going to impact his starting 11s this season.
Remember, he’s used to getting by with experienced journeymen. That’s why you’re more likely to see Xhaka start than someone younger. Kids make mistakes. It’s too risky. Even his big kids make mistakes. David Luiz has made 3 massive errors in 2 games. Not good enough.
… but it’s interesting, big mistakes seem to be a theme whoever plays.
How do you coach concentration into players? How do you make the team stronger defensively? How do you improve the attacking output?
There’s a lot to work on, but it’s hard to judge him after losing to one of the most brutal outfits in the game.
Let’s see what happens against Spurs.
Newcastle are a shower of shit, but they managed to roll the European cup finalists. Emery isn’t going to be able to hide behind excuses forever. We have a very, very good squad of players to pick from. If teams are better than us, surely the purpose of a coach is that he finds a way?
If Emery takes Spurs down by 3 goals this weekend, everyone will rejoice that he has more sauce than the Costco condiments aisle. I won’t, but you know, I see what’s coming with absolute clarity.
Might have a little bit of goss for you tomorrow, tune in or be damned to an eternity of fire and Sam Allardyce.
SEE YOU IN THE COMMENTS x
Cesc
Full6 agree bout full backs.
I can’t beilive we don’t have young players who are specific full back we can’t play.
Amn
May be a player in there but not at right back.
Pierre We want Emery to define a playing style for us a philosophy a gameplan called Emeryball. He wants us to be protagonists on the ball and playing out from the back is essential to being protagonists. You cany be protagonists if you just punt the ball up the field. And well playing out is still better for us than punting the ball upfield because we dont have someone like to Giroud to collect those aerial balls. Honestly whatever front 4 we garner we cant win aerial duels. Only Pepe seems to be someone who can head a ball and… Read more »
Was I
Good points.
RSPC
Welk yes of course. I got the Wasabi sauce.
And typos are my speciality.
If you haven’t checked out SteveBruceatWeddings on Twitter, you’re missing out.
We have learnt more about Emery from the Pool game. He is not afraid to try new things. Against the Pools, I am all for defense and fast counter. But we can do that also with our familiar 4 3 3 formation. In fact, we defend with 10 men when we lose the ball. I like Reiss Nelson’s track back to cover the opposing FB.
Anyway, the Pool game is a good time to try new things. Let’s get back to what we know best and prepare for the SPUDS game.
“ Unai, like Arsene is handicapped by fear. It’s so unattractive. Losing 3-1 meekly or losing 6-4 in game of the season where we chucked it all at Liverpool…I’ll take the latter. Losing is still zero points. “
To add to Guns o Hackney Emery football is like plain sliced bread dipped in hot water.
“Don’t even bother trying to convince the Wenger obsessives that he did tactics .”
This is priceless, to say the least.
Chris,
Just took a look at SteveBruceatWeddings…
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Inspired!
Wasi If Emerys game plan was to play out from the back then I would have thought that as a priority he or the club should have bought 1) 2 central defenders who are comfortable on the ball ( Luiz was a last minute desperate signing who happens to fit that mould). 2) a midfielder who can receive the ball under pressure from the keeper or defender. 3) a goalkeeper who can effortlessly switch play which you say Leno cant do. 4) 2 full backs who are comfortable receiving the ball under pressure…Tierney may solve the left back problem but… Read more »
I have one wish for this weekend,,,
No xhara please,
Man is worse than gus ceases .
There’s only one arsène.
There’s only one Ozil.
And the’s only one Pierre of course.
Pierre
I bet your a wow at parties init…
Fella
Compose your own list of players wenger signed that did fuck all
I’ll help yer
Diary
Alberto Mendez
Chris weah
The blind keeper
The Swedish keeper
Mikel Silverstein
Pascal cyan
That should get u going
*there’s
(whatever)
(I am waiting for the “Leg End”)
The list from RSPC is FAR from being complete…
Can you honestly say that any of those 8 players will improve us in our attempt to play out from the back .
Only two of them are defenders and one of them have gone already. You’re consistent Pierre.
Pierre Sven’s and Rual’s transfer windows were all about filling the gaping holes of the squad. Before Sok we had Mustafi as a starter . Torreira was a much needed addition. Guendouzi can definitely play out from the back. Lich was a failure but everybody makes mistakes. Now this season also was more about filling the big gaps . And Tierney ,pepe ceballos, luiz can all play out from the back. Bellerin can too he might not be TAA or Walker but he is a v good RB in his own right and last season he was playing really well.… Read more »
If those were all Emery signings, Sven actually did nothing at Arsenal.
The playing out from the back like everything else is going to be a work in progress. City were having similar problems at the start and it wasn’t until Pep binned the likes of Clichy and co and brought in a fuck tonne of players that they perfected the art. Of course we’ll have to do it on less and likely it’ll take longer but you stay the course
Too many losers on Le Loser.
Losers breed losers and it breeds losing. Like winning breeds winners.
I’m going to fit one more losing in…losers.
Cheap red. Two nannies, angry wife. Baby. Cat. Sun.
FML.
Pierre
I think people who claim Wenger don’t do tactics aren’t very tactical themselves.
When it comes to Wenger, there is his truth, our (fans) truth and the real truth.
Early signs on Emery is pretty mixed for me.
Just FYI. Yesterday the least clever poster here (HL) was soliciting bets that Pepe would score his first goal against spurs this weekend.
He turned down one bet for $100 (excuse: he’s too poor)
He turned down a second bet of $200 vs. him not typing “lol” for a year.
Let’s try to prove that HL isn’t a blowhard or welsher, and come up with a bet he can afford to accept.
When it comes to Wenger, there is his truth, our (fans) truth and the real truth.
This guy is actually brightening my day
lol
Liverpool give you the feeling that they are writing history at the moment and everyone else is just co-starring in their film. I have no doubt they will win the league this year and maybe champions league too.
Why the hell didn’t we get klopp when we had the chance ? I like Emery somewhat but Klopp is THE Alpha.
How do you bet with other divs on Le Grove? How?
Pls any latest about Eriksen, Toby and Vert?
Those guys are our CL ticket and I feel we should monitor them and show them love.
Gentle
You are either a twund or an absolute jester from Leicester.
You reckon we would get not one, not two but three spurs players and one of them probably pushing £100m?
Mate, stop taking whatever it is you’re taking and do what the rest of us do. Drink.
Monreal looking likely to leave.
I get it, but puts pressure on our back line until Tierney is fit and then puts massive pressure on him.
Anything close to £5 Million for Monreal is good money for a player of his age. Seems likely that Mustafi and Elneny will also leave.
I have confidence that the club has something lined up for January. We’ve managed to recoup quite a bit of money.
Could be if things are going well the club is more adventurous in January sort of betting on us having UCL money by next season.
Here we go. Monreal is the best left back in the history of left backs in the game of left backs.
Not in Arsenal’s top three.
Cole
Winter burn
Silvinho
In that order.
First Iwobi now Monreal. These are guys we need throughout the season. Why are we selling needed players?
DL
For fuck sake. This can’t be your first post. It can’t be.
You have to start on Le Groce with a bombshell or a racist insult.
But definitely not nonsense.
lolz
Marko
“Only two of them are defenders and one of them have gone already ”
Exactly….and the Emery philosophy is to play out from the back .
It’s no good having the best attacking line up in Europe (possibly) if we are going to be dispossessed on the edge of our own area because we are fixated with playing out from the back with players who are supposedly not up to the job.
I remember… when we let Sanogo leave, I was asking myself the same question than Distant legrover.
Sansom better than Silvinho.
Goh
Bob Mcnab should be in there somewhere
DL
Hide the racism in a joke or movie line or music group. NWA is a good one.
Or just casually insert it. Like “I love Chinese food but their attitude towards animals is disgusting and footbinding isn’t cool or clever. They also can’t drive”
Somting like that.
“It’s no good having the best attacking line up in Europe (possibly) ”
Seriously???
Pierre and Bob showing their age.
Sansom was brilliant but workmanlike. McNab was a brute.
My top three had flair. And no matter what you thought of cashley, he was in the top two of world left backs at the time. He was brilliant. And we let him go for £5000.
That sums up Arsenal.
“if we are going to be dispossessed on the edge of our own area because we are fixated with playing out from the back with players who are supposedly not up to the job.”
When all your outfield players are rubbish in the air you don’t really have the option of going long, i will advise Leno plays the ball into midfield, let them learn how to receive a pass under pressure< The passing to Luiz, then Sokratis, then AMN bit is not advancing play, it's doing nothing positive at all.
RH
Lolz. Yep. We have the best attacking line up in Europe.
Our attack is weak. Weak like DLs opening salvo to Le grove.
Cesc
I think we are really in a process of investing on the squad, something we have neglected to do for the better part of a dozen years.
I expect we will sign 1-2 players from non-European markets, that is probably the forte of Edu.
Dissenter
I agree.
I think if you look at the squad at the start of next season it will be near unrecognizable to the sorry state Wenger left it in.
I expect some interesting buys from South America as well with Edu on board.
With Sanllehi and Edu I really think we have a great thing, very competent people backing them up in Venkatesham, Fahmy, Cagigao and Knapper as well.
Sansom ‘workmanlike’ – you’re showing your ignorance!
Some of the angst about the Saturday loss was predictable though.
When people were zeroing in on Xhaka pre-game [like they always do], some of us were saying that the two 19 year-olds in the midfielder may struggle.
…and they did.
Emery may not be the guy to take us to the promised land but I’m glad that he had the courage to play Guen and Willocks in a game of that magnitude.
Sansom was a workman. Period. I’ve never heard him mentioned as an artist or performer. Not in 35 years of supporting Arsenal…and I watched him play!
Good player. Not as good as Winterburn or Cole. I have spoken.
GOH
Oh I m sorry did I break the Le-grove entry rule ? But seriously I ve been here long just a lazy, easily distracted fella so not much of a poster but I’m less distracted today so here I am.
Marko
I am making your day ? Well thank you. I have that impact quite often lol.
Your thoughts on Emery? Is he a keeper or a leaver ?
DL
Racist. Gets you in!
Gentlebris
Go easy on GoH.
He’s been ranting incoherently all day…obviously on the (special) sauce.
Is Sansom still homeless and struggling with drink? Some sad shit right there
As you know, not a fan of Emery, but this sort of analysis wrapped in a nice graph is why data folk get a brand rap.
https://twitter.com/karun1710/status/1165976011101691911?s=20
Monreal proved a very solid servant sad to see him go if true, future is Tierney lets see how fast he adapts. Powers that be must think pretty quickly if willing to sell Monreal now.
Pedro,
I presume you mean bad rap?
Do you know what made this loss worse for me?
Attending my sons game Sunday afternoon to find his teammates parent wearing a Liverpool shirt- and talking shit about Arsenal.
I swear Pool fans are the worst. They cannot shut up.
I think I hate that team now. Officially
My son played better than his did. So some consolation I guess.
Guns of SF,
Glad your son played better the the Liverpool supporter’s son – probably cos his team wasn’t forced to play a diamond formation….
Guns your son played better because he likely had no mini Xhaka in his team providing F`all.
Guns of SF
I visited Redandwhitekop the other day. I couldn’t believe the OP level of arrogance and shithousery they suddenly have on there. I guess its true that winning breeds confidence or in their case winning breeds cuntiness ?
Reminded me of Man U fans not too long ago before Jesus, I mean Moyes our savior came riding in on his white Unicorn.
“As you know, not a fan of Emery”
No shit ??
I work with stats and that kind of graph is exactly what I hate with intellectual snob.
Graph and colour for the sake of saying look at me I am clever when the graph just shows the exact opposite.
Graph and chart should just be simple with few colours.
Also movement and flow across time cannot be accurately and simply by a static graph. You need to add a time as changing element to the graph.
And just like that the “8 times dispossessed in our own half “- the most in history of football anywhere- has entered the Legrove folklore to be dropped hence forth into any Emery is shit conversation. A totally meaningless stat in a scope of the season btw, since we are unlikely to see this line up ever again once everybody is match fit. But I did like Pierre’s assertions that anyone of those eight turnovers could’ve resulted in a goal. Genius. Pierre, two of those players you’ve listed definitely won’t help us with playing out the back because one was… Read more »
Pedro, You mean bad rep? If so, I agree. Game is already over at 3:0. Pool stopped playing. Who cares if we had couple of decent attacks in the last 20 mins. Game was already over and Pool were saving their strength. Of corse they aren’t going to push with the same intent and power at 3:0. Things like “oh maybe we should have started with the same players and strat as the ones we finished” make sense to a point where you wouldn’t know what would happen. We could have lost even harder. Then we’d be like “Emery is… Read more »
Chitom,
A totally meaningless stat in a scope of the season btw, since we are unlikely to see this line up ever again once everybody is match fit.
I would say that bar the fullback, this is pretty likely to be Emery favourite lineup in big game.
As most of the turnover did not come from the fullback, even taking into account that we were setup to just counter-attack, I would say that this is worrying stats.
Some work to be done on the training ground to improve understanding and movement between players.
This dad had the audacity to ask me, why and how long have you supported Arsenal.
What a POS.
He is from England too- my guess Liverpool area.
He didn’t have that London accent. 🙂
Not only that, at my office, there are a few of them here too.
These I can deal with, but the ones on the street are really pieces of shit.
Some work to be done on the training ground to improve understanding and movement between players.
Valentin
Sure, Pepe and Ceballos have been with the club a month so throwing them in off the deep end against Liverpool away was always a big ask.
Fabinho, who’s been one of the best performers for Pool this season didn’t start a league game for them until middle of October after his transfer from Bundesliga last year. And Bundesliga is much closer pace wise to PL than French or Spanish league.
Boris
Sammy nelson above silvinho
WOAB
Pack it in.
Indeed.
Correction, Fabinho obviously came from Monaco.
Naby Keita came from Bundedliga
On the assumption that Monreal is leaving, the problem of how to fill the left back position becomes crucial. With Bellerin also out, the options are limited. Emery clearly does not trust Kola in a flat back four. The obvious option is to switch AMN further out of position to left back and install Chambers as right back. Alternatively, switch to three at the back and play AMN and Kola as wing backs until Bellerin and Tiernery are fully up to speed. Late October, early November ? It looks like a tough two months ahead – always hoping that no… Read more »
yea that one time subs were not made early equals to 10 years plus of 75 minute subs…so uncanny how alike they are
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now, now, not true…agenda driven….subs usually happen around 65mins…..it only became 75 in the last year of his reign.
“it only became 75 in the last year of his reign.”
Indeed.
(lol)
Don’t worry Dale I got this. Here lads leave Arsene alone okay. Leave it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P4ZW7IMRms&t=327s
MidwestGun is far better than Arteta.
He could be our next manager!!
NLD coming on the back of defeats on both teams.
This one could be more of nerves game than actual football.
Hope the whole 90 minutes will not be played just outside our box anyway.
The master tactician must be drawing patterns on his slate now, seeing good reasons why Mikki, Xhaka and Ozil must start the game, and why Pepe, L.T and Laca can not play.
A general who leaves his best soldiers at home for ‘tactical reasons’.
I love Klopp’s face… “think you’re better than me ?? Think again!!” lol
Think some of you need to watch that video because based on your comments I can tell you had no clue what you were watching regards tactics. The tactics were ok.. first half because it worked.. Where Emery went wrong was failing to switch after we went a goal down to a more basic formation such as 4-3-3 to match Pool and chasing goals we needed a different approach and we needed subs sooner. to keep the midfield fresh.. He tends to have this pattern of not recognizing and making adjustments when things go south… as also shown in Europa… Read more »
Gentlebris you are starting to read like Pierre more and more. Stop 😆
All the loves
Question is
Did Freddie get in his ear about switching things up? I guess only Freddie knows that answer… and Emery
I thought a change at halftime was coming…. 4-3-3 but didnt happen
He got this wrong- adjustment wise.
Also playing from the back against the Pool press was really risky.
Sometimes you gotta go with the long ball
Midwest
I Just think Emery was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t, I mean in terms of whatever’s he decided to do on Sat night. There was every chance we were coming away with nothing no matter what he tried, all things considered. As you say, the game plan had some logic behind it but in game adaptation was lacking.
It’s all about the Sours on Sunday now
MidwestGun is far better than Arteta
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No man but thanks I guess.. Not my video.. just think that guy usually does a good job of breaking it down. Also my hair game compared to Arteta is weak.. he is world class.
Gentlebris is having a proper meltdown
He thinks Liverpool aren’t all that and we could have matched them fire for fire with our best strike force in Europe (TM Pierre)
‘Gentlebris you are starting to read like Pierre more and more. Stop 😆’
Pierre?
I don’t ever wanna sound like that, might have to sit on it if it’s coming to that.
But I just can’t help thinking Emery football is to say the least ridiculous.
I could take Arsenal to that game yesterday, pick the right eleven and say: Guys you are all pro, go play and don’t let me down.
And i could have won.
We now have a team believe me, but sadly we also have a coach who wouldn’t just leave things alone.
Pepe needs to start the NLD
I think he will get 2 goals this weekend… my prediction!
“I could take Arsenal to that game yesterday, pick the right eleven and say: Guys you are all pro, go play and don’t let me down.
And i could have won.”
WOW!!!!
The club has spent 200 million in just over a year , would it not have been better to buy players that suit the manager’s philosophy . ________ I can answer this question for Pierre as well.. Because the club is not building the team around the manager.. never had that as a goal.. Clearly Emery was brought in as a safe option by Gazidas and put on a short term contract. They were waiting to get an organizational structure in place first… hence all the chaos of finding a director of football.. Now we have Edu he will decide… Read more »
LOL
‘He thinks Liverpool aren’t all that and we could have matched them fire for fire with our best strike force in Europe (TM Pierre)’
At least we could have tried, that way we walked away with pride if we lost.
Believe me I don’t hate no Emery and I’m not trying to turn this to some hate crusade, but Emery’s play in that game was disgraceful. Not about the loss, but about making our team look like a bunch of cowards and still losing on top of that.
MidWest That was my gripe. I keep hearing Emery’s tactics were wrong and you can’t give Liverpool’s full backs all that time because what did he expect to happen…ummmm, Liverpool scored from a corner, a penalty and then Salah’s individual brilliance. The tactic actually worked. Liverpool’s attacking play is so dynamic and Arsenal basically limited to the extent that we knew exactly where the threat was coming from at all times, either Alexander Arnold or Robertson. We made it very difficult for their forwards and midfielders to do anything clever. Like you I was annoyed it took so long to… Read more »
Pedro
You still havent answered my question.? Or will you never rate Emery even if he delivers.
Emery once admitted he was a coward as a player.
Maybe the yellow blood is stirring again
“Believe me I don’t hate no Emery and I’m not trying to turn this to some hate crusade, but Emery’s play in that game was disgraceful. Not about the loss, but about making our team look like a bunch of cowards and still losing on top of that.” Nothing to do with Emery here, just unrealistic expectations We do not the players to match Liverpool fire for fire yet, this game always came too early for what we are trying to do. We took more confidence at how we restricted them to half chances in the first half than “playing… Read more »
“This dad had the audacity to ask me, why and how long have you supported Arsenal.
What a POS.He is from England too- my guess Liverpool area. He didn’t have that London accent. 🙂
Not only that, at my office, there are a few of them here too. These I can deal with, but the ones on the street are really pieces of shit.”
You should have whooped his ass! Oh, right, this is an Arsenal blog.
You have hit him with your purse!
It’s also stupid to say Norwich and Southampton gave Liverpool better games, Liverpool were always going to significantly raise their level to play us. It’s like expecting Spurs to play like they did yesterday when we meet them this weekend. How can we play like we did against Spurs, Chelsea and United at home last season then play like we did against Huddersfield at home in the home fixture after the Spurs game or the Qarabag game after that? If we’d played like we did against Spurs we’d have annihilated both those sides. Ridiculous argument really. Teams raise themselves to… Read more »
I could take Arsenal to that game yesterday, pick the right eleven and say: Guys you are all pro, go play and don’t let me down.
And i could have won.
It’s just that simple. Really whoever this guy is should be manager. And he’d do it for significantly less than 6 million a year
Midwest “Because the club is not building the team around the manager.. never had that as a goal.. Clearly Emery was brought in as a safe option by Gazidas and put on a short term contract. They were waiting to get an organizational structure in place first” Oh ,I see. We have spent 200 + million for the next manager . What a novel idea. Supposing the next manager we hire doesn’t particularly rate the new signings and wants his own signings , does that mean the process starts all over again and we have to spend another 2000+ million… Read more »