Josh K making moves on your heart

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The good news just keeps on rolling, I am literally oiling myself in excitement this season.

Cannot wait to lose at the weekend and get back to a hateful perspective on life.

Freddie Ljungberg has kept us all guessing on the touchline this season.

Who is he?

Why is he there?

What is he thinking?

Does he still wear CK?

The big question for me is how the hell he managed to convince Bouldy to swap jobs… BUT, it happened and the bench is looking very exciting because it’s a touch different this year.

Then the main man Joe Willock drops this to the press:

“Every day I’m working with him & learning from him. He’s improved my whole overall game. If I’m being specific, getting in the pockets when I’m playing No 10 & attacking at No 8. He showed me a lot of different tactics to get space & turn to attack teams”

SHOOT IT UNDER MY TOE NAILS.

It gets better…

“Freddie is not only such a legend at the club. He’s an unbelievable manager & coach. He’s a mentor for me. He showed me a lot behind the scenes that people don’t really know about”

Like three g’s of fentanyl under my gums…

I love that Freddie is making an impact on the young players coming through. He’s relevant, he’s a winner and he seems extremely personable. That’s going to be a huge help for Emery this season. I can’t remember which young player said it, but I read that the Spaniard has outsourced comms to the Swede. In the world of power stratagems, that move feels risky, but at least someone is giving them clear instructions.

I would love to have the inside line on why that move happened… I like it regardless.

In other news, David Ornstein dropped an elbow on the internet, securing a superb exclusive with Josh K. The heir to many shares spoke about the club in an impressive manner for the second time in a month and the messages were clear.

My takeaways:

  • KSE is taking Arsenal seriously
  • Josh is invested in galvanising the fans and he wants to win our trust
  • He takes a personal interest in Arsenal because ‘football’ is his number one love
  • We are going to be proactive in January

The interview is here, take a read if you haven’t.

There has been some sneering online about him, but you have to take him on his actions, not his words.

Since he’s been more seriously involved, we’ve sacked Wenger, hired Emery, hired and fired a Chief Scout, brought in a Technical Director, blown at the very least £120m, and we’ve increased our wage bill by a chunk.

You cannot criticise that.

You can dig out decisions, sure, and I have done exactly that. But opinions are like personal choice in milk, everyone’s got one… and not everyone chooses the elite flavorings of oat.

The club seems to be moving in the right direction. There’s still a lot of work to do, there are going to be tears along the way, but we are buying expensive players, blooding youth, and spending some f*cking money.

It’s all you can ask for… until you reset expectations and lead a protest, naked, covered in the blood of a slain lamb.

Until that moment comes, let’s see if Josh can continue to drive the club forward.

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  1. DM

    Just giving some others a chance this week 🙂

    (real reason, I’m a bit under the weather, haven’t been in front of my computer last couple of days)

  2. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    Torreira came back late to preseason, almost missed the whole thing because of the copa America. He’s not up to full fitness yet.Nothing fishy about it

  3. Bob N16

    Agree with your sentiments Pedro. Actions speak louder than words. We heard Raul and Vin (?) talk ambitiously but until the last TW, it was just talk. Now if JK says we’ll possibly do something in Jan, we can justifiably rub our hands with glee.

  4. Words on a Blog

    Josh has said and done everything right to convince me that Arsenal are indeed a key “project” for Stan and Josh.

    They’ve spent money intelligently.
    They’ve appointed the right people and created a good structure.
    They’ve communicated with passion to the fans.

    I’ve been a long term critic of the Kroenkes but i have to say in recent months they’ve been getting everything right. No more carping from me about the Kroenkes.

  5. Northbanker

    Good interview. I think we should be relieved that Stan had a young adult son wanting to make a name for himself and at the same time not turning his back on his Dad’s business

    Josh is the perfect intermediary for KSE and is starting to give me a lot of confidence that he really has or is getting our DNA

  6. Receding Hairline

    I like what i have seen from the Kroenke’s and i was never that critical of them to begin with.

    It’s a bit rich for a fan base who 70% worshiped the floor Wenger walked on and bought all his lies, myself included, to now turn around and point fingers at Kroenke for believing in Wenger too.

    Most of all were all held in the spell Wenger cast on us, Kroenke believed if he gave him time he could right his own wrongs, how mistaken we all were. Man kept digging and digging out of stubbornness.

    Now they are in complete control and we are moving in the right direction.

  7. Receding Hairline

    Off topic but it always amazes me when some posters on here place Spurs on a pedestal where they do not belong. This same team under a manager who has been with them for half a decade with no major sales lost 13 league games last season and i am being told they were concentrating on the Champions league, a tournament they were always on the verge of being eliminated from yet somehow pulled off comebacks.

    On Saturday, many called their fortuitous 2-2 draw at City was “hard earned”…well this is what an observer thought of that game:

    “It may have been overshadowed by the late disallowed goal, but Manchester City’s performance against Tottenham was about as comprehensive a drubbing as you’ll see between two top-six clubs. Realistically, the fact that City are already at last season’s levels — and that includes Kevin De Bruyne, who seems to have put injuries behind him and has returned to his 2017-18 self — will matter far more in the long run than the two points dropped, unlucky as they were to draw 2-2. (As you’ll recall, Man City were one of the unluckier teams last season despite winning a second straight league title.)

    As for Tottenham, it’s hard not to be disappointed by what you saw. The midfield trio of Moussa Sissoko, Harry Winks and Tanguy Ndombele were a revolving door for much of the game, but that had plenty to do with the lack of help they got from the attacking midfielders and the fire-fighting they had to do on the flanks, where Danny Rose and Kyle Walker-Peters had rough days.

    The absence of Dele Alli, Son Heung-Min and Jan Vertonghen (the latter started on the bench and stayed there) didn’t help, but it felt like a systemic failure. And that’s very unlike Pochettino.””

    Gab Marcotti

    Sorry to go on a rant, i can understand Spurs apologists from the media but i find it difficult to wrap my head round it from Arsenal fans. Even United fans don’t give Spurs the praise we do and they have had it rough the past few years too.

  8. Jamie

    For my money, Poch is Wenger without the silverware. Holds a club together on a low net spend, punches above his weight in the league (and occasionally in Europe), but doesn’t have anything tangible to show for it in half a decade.

    No one is going to remember all the times they finished 3rd in the league.. They need silverware, and they need it yesterday.

    Someone here recently questioned why anyone would be championing Spurs’ appearance in a European Final which they went on to lose, and how Arsenal supporters would rather forget our single CL Final appearance. I feel the same way. Win, or you’ve lost.

  9. Receding Hairline

    Jamie he 100% would have left Spurs if he won the Champions league last season

    “Mauricio Pochettino says winning a trophy this season is a purely personal objective and not a barometer for Tottenham as a club.

    On the eve of his sixth campaign in charge, Spurs boss Pochettino acknowledged the time has come for him to deliver silverware.

    The comments contrasted with his previously held view that a trophy was less important than cementing a place in the Premier League’s top four.”

    The kind of talk above we mocked Wenger for, but it’s Pochettino so it’s cool, he has sauce

  10. CG

    Another splendid post.
    More Thanks

    Absolute claptrap spoken by the Playboy Josh.

    If he was serious about wanting Arsenal to return to the summit of English soccer – he would have Sacked not Backed The Clown after Baku.

    4 days to go.

    Then comes the Trilogy of games from Hell.

    1. LIVERPOOL
    2.SPURS
    3.WATFORD

    And this excrement show unravels.

    double digit goals to be conceded in the next 3.

    #Torn to shreds#

    If you play Sok/Luiz/Monreal and AMN as a back 4 against the CL finalists- dont expect anything than utter carnage.

    (Burnley x 18)

    Buy opposition goals

    And Invest in Real Estate or hectares of sumptuous fertile land in the Namibia 🇳🇦Plains with the profits.

    CG knows what’s around the corner.

    T.T.

  11. Graham62

    Bob

    How many wonder strikes do you see each season?

    How many goals do you see scored like Lacazettes?

    Exactly!

    You won’t see a goal scored like that again.

  12. Biggles

    @Receding Hairline

    The reason that Arsenal fans have praised Spurs in recent years is because they had a coach who was extracting 100% from his players and was playing fairly attractive attacking football in the process. He was also doing it on a shoestring budget, with a lot of young British guys building the core of the team, and indeed the English national team.

    At the same time, Arsenal were in decline as Arsene Wenger had his glory days well behind him. Think of all the players we had over the recent years who weren’t young and hungry, but happy give 50% and stay on fat contracts for years.

    There is obviously some parallels at the moment with Spurs and Arsenal of 10-15 years ago. The stadium move, the so-close-yet-so-far of being runners up in a CL final, the ageing (and likely break up) of a stalwart defence. When Eriksen goes, that’s their Vieira moment. If they lose Kane, that’s their Henry moment. Having done well in recent years, Poch is now in the place that Wenger was from 2005 to 2014 where the lack of trophies was getting ever less excusable. There’s a new stadium hangover.

    I know it’s not all entirely the same. Poch has never won anything, Wenger had won doubles. The difference is that Poch took a team of about the level of Everton and made them consistently better than say Manchester United. Wenger didn’t have that level of competition in his successful years. Also, for some weird reason, Wenger had actual financial control of contracts and transfers and pissed stupendous amounts of money away in the latter years. Levy deals with that stuff at Spurs, which means they aren’t hoarding cash then wasting it. So there’s less long term damage getting done.

    That’s my take on it anyway.

  13. Jamie

    Receding –

    Too true.

    Playing well and winning nothing wears thin after a few years of raised expectations. Poch is treading a super fine line, imo. He needs to win something this season. Anything legit will do.

    The 4th Place Trophy is only bankable when you have a small club mentality, and Spurs already have ideas above their station, thanks in part to pundit bias.

  14. Jamie

    Biggles –

    Solid post.

    Graham –

    I watched that game in a pub with a mate from Liverpool. It was exhilarating for both of us. Incredible entertainment. What a match. I loved peak Arshavin.

  15. Receding Hairline

    Biggles i am not doubting the work Pochettino has done at Spurs. I am just of the opinion he has been placed in brackets he does not belong in off the back of it. Spurs have had a squad good enough to win things for 3 years now, they always fall short.

    When does he take the blame for the falling short??

  16. Graham62

    Just a pity Arshavin became a wasted commodity.

    As for that game, yes it was exhilarating

    Our defending was shambolic though.

    April 2009!

    Doesn’t seem possible.

  17. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    I think that Freddie Ljungberg might be an excellent modern coach as I suggested watching him warm up with Pepe at half time. Indeed I was talking to one of the TV cameramen who works in front of me and was discussing the game and pointed out what was happening on pitch.

    Ljungberg is not only a well schooled coached but retains most of his technical ability and control of a football. That was blindly obvious when he was working with Pepe.

    There has been much discussion about the Kroenke family on Le Grove. I have been frequently critical not so much because of their lack of investment
    in team but their perceived lack of interest in what was going on in London and over reliance on Gazidis and Wenger.

    Bluntly the overview was that the Kroenke family had made an investment in
    Arsenal, but did not have much understanding or interest in football.

    Since the Autumn 2018 they have bought the club which they now own 100%.
    If it is unsuccessful it will hit them in the pocket and I think that the changes in management has made them realise that Wenger’s frugality was no longer
    effective.

    Josh Kroenke who is clearly heir apparent of the family business and fortune has clearly taken personal responsibility for the club and is probably ‘more hands on’ than his father.

    It remains to be seen whether this summer’s transfer business is now the route that the club will take in future. No-one including you suggests that Arsenal need to throw mega bucks at transfer business, but the club does need to show that we are ambitious and want to win trophies.

    Frankly the club in last 10 years has not pulled its weight and that is reflected in its performance level. I think that we have now got a platform to finish in top 4 although not guaranteed. We need to be more strategic in our transfer
    business than in past.

    There are still weaknesses in the squad. However supporters and posters on
    Le Grove need to be realistic. “Rome was not built in a day”. Arsenal is not going to throw a billion pounds at solving problem as both Man City and Chelsea have done in past.

  18. raptora

    RH,
    Not only that but he has proved that he prefers his safe heaven instead of moving to a bigger club where the pressure will be multiple times bigger. He had offers from Real Madrid that he refused because of things go wrong there, he’d be looking for a job in a year or two max. But that’s the risk it takes to win stuff.

    It feels like he is more than comfortable being in a club with little pressure where anything he does is seen as godlike touch. While the years without a single trophy to his name keep stacking up. 10 years and running.

    Nothing won with Espanol, with spuds no FA cups, no Carabooboo cups, quarterfinals is his best achievement in 3 Europa League campaigns… Before the fortuitous final in the UCL he had finished 3rd in groups once and lost the first knockout game after groups once.

    He is holding the spuds project on his back though. Once he’s out, Kane goes out and they’ll be back fighting for Europa League places with Everton and West Ham.

  19. HighburyLegend

    “For my money, Poch is Wenger without the silverware.”

    Without the silverware, and, most importantly, without the zip coat.

  20. Words on a Blog

    Biggles,

    Great post.

    I’m hoping that this is the season when the ridiculous Spurs Inferiority Complex that some of our fans have is smashed to smithereens.

  21. Un na naai

    FreddyHis agents seems to be feathering a nest elsewhere
    Read his words
    Anyway. Just an observation. I don’t expect you to see anything I see or agree with anything I say.

    Smells like smoke
    And there’s no smoke without fire

  22. Northbanker

    Suspect the interview could mean that Upamecano still being targeted although I would have thought that was more likely to be a summer deal

    Prob also depends on Holding

  23. Bob N16

    Graham, I was delighted when Laca scored, a proper centre forward’s goal. Not quite something out of nothing but all CFs would be happy to score that goal, holding off a defender, falling whilst turning, beating the goalie from a tight angle. Gerd Muller became a legend from goals like that ( one for the youngsters).

    But it was neither a spectacular strike or a fantastic team goal which had great passing combinations to admire.

    Your argument that you don’t see goals like that very often and therefore that makes it more special isn’t convincing either. Let’s, for the sake of the argument, agree that it’s a rare type of goal, does that make it a candidate for goal of the season? I don’t recall a Wellbeck goal where he scored off an unusual part of his body making the short list because of it’s rarity.

    I don’t want to come across as mean by picking you up Graham but sometimes your passionate nature takes over and you come out with some bs!

  24. Guns of Brixton

    “From Russia with Love”

    Arshavin had a belter that evening.

    Still cant believe we let benayoun score that last gasp equaliser.

    LFC vs ARS is probs one of the best top 6 battle over the years.

    So much goals galore when we meet

  25. China1

    Great article Pedro

    I’ve been extremely critical of the kroenkes and I think that’s been fully justified over the last decade, but along with some very positive moves in the last 12 months, his interview feels surprisingly believable. It’s shy of a lot of the corporate rhetoric you’d expect from an absentee owner and it presses buttons in all the right places and on all the right topics whilst delivers din a genuine seeming way.

    If this is a new chapter if the story of our owners then sign me up and I’ll happily give them all the credit they deserve if they continue the work they’ve started proactively

  26. Receding Hairline

    “I’m hoping that this is the season when the ridiculous Spurs Inferiority Complex that some of our fans have is smashed to smithereens.”

    Very well put, a weird complex at that because they have not done anything remotely special

    “Nothing won with Espanol, with spuds no FA cups, no Carabooboo cups, quarterfinals is his best achievement in 3 Europa League campaigns… Before the fortuitous final in the UCL he had finished 3rd in groups once and lost the first knockout game after groups once.”

    Puel took his Saints team on a memorable cup run, they were the better team when they lost the Cup final to United

  27. China1

    Re Bould and Freddy I think this swap is good for both of them

    Boils did a decent job heading the reserves/youth team years back before becoming n2. I don’t honestly feel he’ll have enjoyed his time as n2 that much. He’s sat on the bench throughout all of the worst years of the last couple of decades, he got sidelined heavily by arsene after getting too involved, made to become a bland yes man and emery didn’t have a fabulous first season with him either tbh

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if bould would be happy to get out of that chair and be more hands on in a role with less pressure again.

    Meanwhile Freddy brings current knowledge of the youth setup and has a good track record, whilst he too is clearly ambitious and would like to be sitting nearer to the big boy chair

    I think it’s win/win

  28. Graham62

    Bob

    Yes, I am passionate about many things but your analytical overview of Lacazettes goal speaks volumes.

    Don’t dig yourself an unnecessary hole. Lacazettes goal was special and deliberate, so to compare Welbecks lucky “off the body” goal is laughable.

    The goal was special in so many ways and spoke volumes for Lacazette and his attitude and desire to scoring goals.

    Keep picking on me Bob, I can take it.

  29. Leedsgunner

    Need to spend money on quality.
    Need to sell players intelligently.

    Outside the transfer window we need to rotate our teams to maintain momentum and to keep injuries to a minimum.

    Do that and we’ll achieve something amazing.

  30. Graham62

    Bob

    Really can’t believe your questioning the skill and technique involved in Lacazettes goal or finding a counter argument on this.

    When you saw everything in slow motion, how did you feel?

    Did you yawn and think “Nah, nothing special” ?

  31. Ashwin Gunner

    Josh is doing more to the club than his dad did in all his years as owner. he is communicating well and the fact that he is very closely involved in day to day activities of the club is simply great. We need a owner who is passionate about the club. I guess we finally are seeing the light at the end of tunnel.

    If he keeps on working this way for the club, we might just win PL title in the next 3 years.

  32. Bob N16

    I admired the goal Graham! I just don’t think it was a goal of the season candidate. ‘Speaks volumes’ , I’m smelling bs again.
    All the best.

  33. Ashwin Gunner

    As for Freddie, i would see him succeed Emery. He has Arsenal DNA and has the requisite knowledge to coach and manage.

    I know Pedro would be sad though. It means no chance of his favorite Arteta coming in 🙂

  34. Jamie

    Laca’s was a great goal, no doubt. But it was more about his tenacity than beauty. Best goal awards go to stunning strikes, usually. Laca’s goal is unlikely to be in contention for any award for that reason.

    Loved it though.

  35. Ashwin Gunner

    “Outside the transfer window we need to rotate our teams to maintain momentum and to keep injuries to a minimum.”

    For starters, Play Xhaka in FA cup and not in any of the important matches. also, of late Torreira doesnt seem to have the same kind of impact he had when he arrived. Wonder whats going on with him

  36. Nelson

    Now that we have seen how a three men mobile midfielders looks like in a game. This is a blue print worth to be developed. I am worry that Emery will go back to Xhaka. It would be a step backwards.

  37. Guns of Hackney

    This Arsenal love in is like one massive blow job…from a dude…and you ain’t gay…and you aren’t consenting…and you’re in jail…and his friends are lining up a train for you.

    Jesus wept. Two games in against relegation fodder and we’re European Champions 12 times in a row.

    Christ.

  38. Freddie Ljungberg

    Interesting read from Arseblog on our tactics against mainly Burnley and what they think Emery is looking to achieve with this setup.

    https://arseblog.com/2019/08/tactics-column-emeryball-narrow-arsenal-win-two-on-the-bounce/

    especially liked this part about Guen and what he brings to the team, who I feel gets an unfair shake by some here. I’ll start him over Xhaka any day.

    “On the whole, Guendouzi played a more reserved role than we’ve often seen from him since his arrival last summer. His confidence on the ball was also crucial in helping Arsenal attract defenders before moving into more advanced areas. Using him in the deepest midfield role was interesting as it helps Arsenal move the ball quicker than when, say, Granit Xhaka is there. Guendouzi plays with a sense of urgency and confidence that can sometimes see him rush through actions but, when it works, is horrible to play against. He always wants the ball and Arsenal find it easier to play out when he is on the pitch because his willingness and confidence in possession always means an option for the man on the ball.

    His defensive discipline, though, was maybe even more impressive. Arsenal seem to be more conscious of the need to protect the middle of the pitch right now – Adrian Clarke sensibly noted the narrowness of the fullbacks after the Newcastle game – and Guendouzi was quick to cover Nacho Monreal on his forays forward. Note here how he anticipates Monreal’s move forward and jogs over to cover the left flank. It’s simple and doesn’t seem like much but show a level of selflessness, awareness and responsibility that he lacked at times in his debut campaign.”

  39. alexanderhenry

    Pedro

    There’s definitely a buzz around arsenal at the moment mainly due to a surprisingly astute transfer window- most of us including you weren’t expecting it.

    The Kroenkes still have a lot to prove and a lot to make up for. I’ve often stated on here that arsenal will never fulfill its potential under KSE but I’d be thrilled if I was proved wrong.

    They’re making the right moves so I’m cautiously optimistic.

  40. Guns of Hackney

    RH

    Just a little perspective. After the crushing defeat Liverpool will inflict, 8/10 on here will be seriously considering hanging themselves.

    I find it’s better to be in a permanent state of ‘whatever’…it pays in the end.

  41. HighburyLegend

    @RH : no needs to read the posts above, you know it’s from GoH. lol

    I’m sure that he can’t wait to see us destroyed at Anfield.

  42. Uwot?

    Unfortunately if fit u can put your house on Xhaka playing against the scousers this sat.an accident waiting to happen.In slow motion.Emery will be afraid not to pick him as will appear a snub to his “ captain” .Xhaka may well have his uses in certain games but for me certainly not this one.Though I’d be happy to be proved wrong.

  43. Guns of Hackney

    I want us to beat the schleppers out of the park. But, reality.

    Can you believe that in my local Boots, they hand out Methadone to the local junkies. They have to drink it on the premises so they can’t go and sell it for real junk.

    Honestly.

  44. Un na naai

    Not sure I agree with that take on Guendouzi fully just yet but for me the best facet of his game is ball co girl in tight spaces and moving it on
    He is a big enough lad. If he adapts defensively and learns the art of the through pass then we could have a major asset on our hands

    He does remind me of a young paddy v onthe ball at times. He needs more aggression in his game. If he had a that then the rest I’m sure will follow if he’s intelligent e ouch to read the game and he where he needs to be.

    I’m not sure Torreira will be a long term option. Not with the noise from his agent

  45. Micheal

    I share the general feeling of more optimism at AFC these days. But the jury is still out the Yanks. Remember Kroenke has never invested a single penny of his own in Arsenal Football Club.

  46. Un na naai

    The player himself seemed happy with how things went on his home debut though, saying:

    The truth is that for me it has been one of the most special days of my life. I think that starting at home by winning and with this passion at the end of the match, I think it will be hard to forget this day for me.

    I really want this year to truly demonstrate the football that I have inside. I have a lot of enthusiasm for this season & give a lot of joy to these fans. The confidence they have in me, I want to return it to them with my performances.

    Dani Ceballos on his debut

    This is the sort of talk and passion I want to see from arsenal players
    Really starting to warm to this lad
    Great stuff so far from him. Keep it going

  47. Un na naai

    I love that Freddie is making an impact on the young players coming through. He’s relevant, he’s a winner and he seems extremely personable.

    Pedro
    Olof Mellberg wouldn’t agree….

  48. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    I agree that he’s not quite there yet but to me he already gives us more than Xhaka does. He’s also only just turned 20 so there’s bound to be improvements in his game. He played too many games because of our lack of options last season but hopefully Willock can step up and share game time with him along Torreira.

    2 of those 3 playing behind Ceballos and we look much better in midfield than last season, no passengers in Ozil and Xhaka that the rest of the team has to carry, same in defence without Mustafi.

  49. Un na naai

    We’ve increased our wage bill?

    I thought we’d decreased it by letting go of

    Kos
    Cech
    Licht
    Welbeck
    Iwobi

    That’s got to be £400k per week there?

  50. Un na naai

    Freddie

    Yeah. Let’s see. He’s got the talent on the ball, no doubt. Canhe prove his metal/personality though and in game intelligence? That’s what he needs to be showing.

    The future looks bright. My concerns don’t lie with the squad quality at all this season. It’s emery. His negative tactics and his tinkering.
    Ive been pleasantly surprised already this season by Dani Ceballos. I hope emery can follow suit

  51. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    I think the tinkering was part getting to grips with a new league/squad and the fact the squad last season wasn’t only poor in quality everywhere except our strikers but also unbalanced.

    1 fullback gets injured we have to start playing with 5 at the back and wingbacks etc.
    I can’t see the same level of tinkering this season.

    backline will pretty much be set when Bellerin Tierney and Holding returns.

    In midfield Ceballos and Torreira will start if fit and our attack picks itself.

    We will need to rotate though but we have better options now than last season so hopefully that won’t hurt us as much as it did then.

  52. Guns of Hackney

    Un

    Let’s say

    Pepe is on £100,000+ Maybe £120
    Luiz ditto
    Cabellos ditto
    Tierney ditto

    Maybe £500k???

    So yes, a drop but…still way too much for our position of nothing.

  53. Un na naai

    Since he’s been more seriously involved, we’ve sacked Wenger, hired Emery, hired and fired a Chief Scout, brought in a Technical Director, blown at the very least £120m, and we’ve increased our wage bill by a chunk.

    Jamie

    Pedro

    From today’s post

  54. Leftsidesanch

    #heavens forbid Arsenal fans feel good about Arsenal#

    Only on here you must be miserable about Arsenal, talk up Spuds and everything else. With GOH though, he’s ‘mock-up’ miserable so its not so bad coming from him.

  55. Un na naai

    Freddie

    Let’s hope so. I’m not sure just yet that the midfield picks itself as I see a 3 man midfield (at least for away games) and Guendouzi and Willock are knocking on that door hard

    Also as much as many fans can’t stand xakha I think emery trusts him and pick him when fit

    I think xakha in a 3 man midfield with Torreira alongside is ok personally. I do t dislike him as much as the others. I have no emotional ties to him so if something better usurps him then no problem but he’s been a victim of circumstance for me
    Put this man in a stinger midfield where we maintain the majority of possession then he he is more of an asset than he gets credit for

  56. Guns of Hackney

    Left

    I am on top of the world. Always! I just live in the real world…and it’s a dark and scary place where evil lurks behind every corner.

    Imagine my Christmas? I’m a real joy.

  57. Un na naai

    Guns

    We still are looking to offload elneny and Mustafi though and hopefully one of ozil or Mkhitaryan

    A drop is still a drop but Pedro seems to think we’ve increased our wage bill and that it’s a positive

    He must have meant decreased

  58. Jamie

    Un –

    When I read that, I thought me meant ‘decreased’.

    If Pedro did mean ‘increased’, I guess he’s talking about the general trend – our wages have steadily increased over the last 3 years with the additions of Laca, Auba, Mkhi, and Ozil’s renewal.

    The wage bill has certainly decreased since Emery took over last summer. Once we bin Mustafi, Xhaka, Elneny, Ozil and Mkhi, we’ll free up another £700-800k a week to reinvest.

  59. Un na naai

    Jamie

    He must have. I’ll let him off the hook in this assumption.

    Ah lads. Sun is shining. Double rum in my hand. Kids playing in the swimming pool. Mrs giving me evils. Life is goood.

  60. Un na naai

    PeterDecreased or increased? We can’t move until you clarify. Please think of the children!

    Hahahahaha
    Our whole debate hinges on this

  61. Guns of Hackney

    If you’re writing a blog, accuracy is paramount. Get it wrong and you’ve just taken a shit on your readership.

  62. Freddie Ljungberg

    Ceballos is on around 60k

    Pepe rumoured to be anywhere between 100-130k

    Tierney 75k

    Luiz was on 125k a week at Chelsea and his basic wages are runoured to be the same here just with more bonuses on top.

    No way our wage bill has increased since last season. Yet.

    There is still increases in Lacas and Aubas contracts and probably a wage hike for Guen coming up. On the other hand we can still get rid of Mustafi and Elneny, that’s another 140k-ish off.

  63. Bojangles

    I think you guys are being a bit unfair to spuds. They did win that trophy thingy in pre season, I’m sure you have forgotten that.

  64. Un na naai

    Looking forward to Liverpool now. Hope to god we nick 3 points
    Gonna be tough to find a spot to watch the match where I am as there is a festival pyrotechnique in the local village

    I have a feeling we won’t lose. There seems to be a positivity and resolve around us at the moment.

  65. Jamie

    I think he’s talking about the general trend, our wage bill has been steadily increasing over the years. Only this season has seen a dip from the previous one.

    It adds weight to the argument that the Kroenke’s aren’t penny pinching when they’ve overseen an increase in wages year-on-year, installed a new management team, dropped a couple hundred million on new players, etc.

  66. raptora

    According to SwissRamble we’ve taken off around £700k of our wage bill through departures/sales, and added around £500k, including Saliba’s wage that we’re not going to pay this season.

    Ins are supposedly on:

    Luiz – £150k
    Pepe – £140k
    Tierney – £75k
    Ceballos – £60k
    Saliba – £50k
    Martinelli – £20k

    Luiz is on a high salary but the contract is for 2 years.

    Ceballos’ £60k though. If he does indeed succeed for us this season, would he refuse a 2 and a half times upgrade of his salary? We could easily give him ~£140k if he proves to be the player we think he is. That would be massive for him in addition to being a star in one of the most exciting teams in the world, in the most competitive league in the world.

  67. Un na naai

    We’ve still ozil kolasinac bellerin tierney and holding to come back and Torreira

    Plenty of squad options there
    We have 3 left backs for crying out loud.

  68. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    With Mustafi out of the way Xhaka is our biggest liability likely to start, I hope he can cut out all his stupid mistakes but after 3 years I’ve given up hope.

    I didn’t say the midfield was set but I think 2 of the 3 positions are, to me it should be between Willock and Guendozi but we will probably have to endure more of the slow poke this season. Can’t wait for him, Ozil, Mikhi and the rest of the dinosaurs to get moved on so we can have a truly competitive team again.

  69. raptora

    Outs were on:

    Ramsey – £130k
    Welbeck – £110k
    Cech – £100k
    Koscielny – £90k
    Iwobi – £70k
    Lichtsteiner – £70k
    Ospina – £50k
    Jenkinson – £50k
    Bielik – £20k
    Bramall – £15k
    Asano – £10k
    Thompson – £5k
    Amaechi – £5k

    £725k out, £495k in = £230k less pw

    Not bad.

    Imagine we move Ozil and Mikki on. Oboi. Our wage bill would be looking so good.

  70. Un na naai

    Freddie

    Well we have a whole new team and structure so let’s see what emery can do with him

    I really don’t think he’s that bad and I know we missed him when he played cb and left back for a while last season which is why he was our steight back into midfield when emery could get him there

    Either way I think emery is a fan so I’d expect to see a lot more of him this season

  71. Un na naai

    Also
    David Luiz is known to gift goals so let’s not be in hurry to chastise a young man who deposit his faults cares about winning more than many of our fair weather players

  72. HighburyLegend

    “Cannot wait to lose at the weekend and get back to a hateful perspective on life.”

    By “life”, Pedro meant “Emery”.

  73. Eduardo

    But but but… what is Freddie’s philosophy?

    I’m guessing he’s a Neoplatonist – hopefully more a Pico della Mirandola than a Giordano Bruno!

  74. Marko

    “They have been spending quite significantly since they took full control. Also, in a respectful way, I do get the feeling they were more ready to invest significantly in the post-Arsene Wenger era. When they could mould the club structure around their own ideas rather than the all-powerful manager.”

  75. Guns of Hackney

    I didn’t want to believe my father was stealing from his job as a road worker but when I went home, all the signs were there.

  76. China1

    Guns

    ‘This Arsenal love in is like one massive blow job…from a dude…and you ain’t gay…and you aren’t consenting…and you’re in jail…and his friends are lining up a train for you.‘

    Beggars can’t be choosers m8

  77. Dream10

    Marko

    Yeah think it went down. Cech, Koscielny, Lichtsteiner, Ramsey, Welbeck all decent earners in the 100k range.

  78. Ishola70

    Receding ironically you yourself are over-rating Spurs when you ask why Poch has not been taken to task for not winning anything.

    This is a team that last won a league title in the early 1960s.

    They only won the equivalent of Europa League back in the 80s.

    They were known as a cup team in the 80s which basically means they were never good enough or consistent enough to win the league.

    Reaching a CL final and getting top four consistently in the recent past is heady stuff for Spurs remember that.

    Calls for them that they must win an FA Cup or Catabooboo cup smacks of Wengerite talk that those people like to do to big up Wenger’s later level when he could only win FA Cups and no more.

    You must remember this is good enough for Spurs what has been happening at that club for the past few seasons and they are direct rivals to Arsenal for the top four something which they were not even capable of in the past.

    You must take Spurs in a more realistic perspective.

  79. Guns of Hackney

    Okay. Wage bill goes down, great! Offers new big deals for 30+ Auba with no sell on and 28/29 for Laca. We have to stop doing this shit.

    Players should get a wage and then 100% have to earn a payrise. Players should have to be bribed with money for performances.

    We need hungry animals who will give blood for the club, not mercs.

  80. Guns of Hackney

    Arsenal have had to increase headroom in the tunnel after the signing of Luiz. Apparently if him and Gued are in the same space at the same time, the team and officials etc can’t get down to the pitch.

    More money.

  81. Bob N16

    Agree Ishola, last season was one of Spurs’s greatest season’s EVER. Ok so they finished 2nd back in 80’s once. 1961….black and white and all that. They barely ever have a better season/team than Arsenal let alone other sides that win the league.

    They are doing exceptionally well for them but not compared with clubs that regularly win things. It was a DVD season for them last year. Hopefully this is as ‘high’ as they go and they will slip back to fighting for 6th place with Everton and whoever.

    They have been overachieving from a perspective of size of club and budgets etc

  82. HighburyLegend

    “Agree Ishola, last season was one of Spurs’s greatest season’s EVER.”

    Are we on Le Grove ?? Just asking…
    Someone seems to have cum on what the Spuds have achieve last season, I just find that a bit weird…

  83. Receding Hairline

    Ajax lost in the Semi finals narrowly to Spurs

    They are having to play two qualifying rounds to get to the group stages. No one cares who the beaten finalists were, one win against Brighton at home for Arsenal and Spurs will be in the Europa league. Greatest season ever!!!!

  84. Ishola70

    Receding

    Their squad is not good enough though is it to win the league because Man City and Liverpool have clearly better squad and overall players.

    Even though they reached CL final on paper again they don’t have the squad to win that really.

    Please don’t fall back on FA Cup talk and Carabooboo talk. It’s small time talk now in comparison to league titles and champions league. These lesser cups may be more Spurs level but they are not imperative for them to win.

    History is always important Receding in looking at a clubs realistic aims and ambitions unless they have had a major input of money poured into them from an outside source.

    And the bottom line is Spurs fans are happy with what has been going on there for these last few seasons. Happy. It matters not what Arsenal fans think. Spurs fans are contented.

  85. Samesong

    No one cares who the beaten finalists were

    Said the same thing yesterday…

    And agree with Ishola on Spurs. Proper deluded fans!!!!!!!!

  86. Ishola70

    They still don’t get it Bob.

    They think we are praising Spurs when in reality it is the complete opposite.

    That’s what insecurity does for you.

  87. Receding Hairline

    “Please don’t fall back on FA Cup talk and Carabooboo talk. It’s small time talk now in comparison to league titles and champions league. These lesser cups may be more Spurs level but they are not imperative for them to win”

    Spurs fan will agree with you then sob quietly in private. Come down from your high perch, most Arsenal fans were very very happy to win the recent FA cup finals. This is a golden generation for Spurs led by a “world class” manager, absolutely nothing but big talk to show for it.

    Leicester had their miracle, very soon Wolves or someone else will have a memorable day out in a cup final while most of here will keep supporting the ludicrous notion that an old fashioned English Cup final is beneath Spurs

    Well done

  88. Marko

    Yeah think it went down. Cech, Koscielny, Lichtsteiner, Ramsey, Welbeck all decent earners in the 100k range

    And they are gone ergo our wage bill is down.

    As for the supposed new deals for Auba and co well he deserves it and to be fair I was against the idea of a new deal so soon after joining for Guendouzi but he is improving and 70k ain’t a potential hamstring to us so it’s okay honestly

  89. Ishola70

    Receding

    The game now is all about the money.

    You know that. I know that.

    The real money is in the top four of EPL and CL participation. This big money coming in can give hopes in the future that those big titles could actually be won.

    FA and Carabooboo cups are also cups now.

    And Spurs are in the big money sphere in getting top four and CL participation.

    It really is good enough for them.

    You should relax otherwise people will think you are secretly irritated about Spurs for some weird reason. No reason to be. They are what they are.

  90. China1

    If spurs only aim for top 3 because they’re not good enough to win the biggest titles, and they don’t win small titles because they’re focusing on top 3 and going far in the CL, then they never will create any meaningful modern history

    It’s as empty as arsenal celebrating the top 4 trophy for so many years whilst the cabinets were bare. No one gave a damn about us and over the years our reputation got worse rather than better.

    The best thing for spurs is to try and balance where they are realistically. Win a few lesser cups and get top 4 and they’ll be looking at CL money which can be reinvested and the feel good factor and tingibility of actual metal in the trophy cabinet

    Whilst they’re enjoying the novelty of being top 4 now, this novelty won’t last forever and in generations to come, it will be looked back on as a time of good football and not a lot else

  91. Receding Hairline

    “They think we are praising Spurs when in reality it is the complete opposite.”

    Really??

    Aren’t you one of those already surrendering third place to Spurs before a ball is kicked??

  92. Receding Hairline

    “You should relax otherwise people will think you are secretly irritated about Spurs for some weird reason. No reason to be. They are what they are.”

    I am well relaxed thanks

    And yes i am irritated by the praise they get on here from some posters, same people who will scrutinize anything Arsenal to find a way to suck the joy out of it. Yourself being one of them, i am not surprised you are jumping to their defense

  93. Ishola70

    Receding

    Spurs are clearly rivals to Arsenal for a top four place and could well finish above them again this season. It may happen. It may not.

    That is not praising them that is stating reality.

    You are going off on another tangent now.

    I completely agreed with you when you stated that Spurs were being over-rated in relation to the top of the EP table but places down to third and fourth no they are not being over-rated.

  94. Ishola70

    Oh he’s fucking crackers. Shilling short. Half a picnic.

    Me and Bob belittle Spurs as one should by pointing out their paltry football history and mocking them in relation to what they are doing at present and we are accused of defending them.

    Put your poms poms down Receding and get a clue.

  95. Champagne charlie

    Quick glance at Le Grove today and someone is ranting about Poch.

    Then you see who it is and all makes sense. Odd flex though given the same guy continually harps back to Emery’s Valencia days as proof he’s mustard.

    Spurs are performing as they are on lunch money, in the most competitive league in the world. Denying Pochettino’s class as a manager is pure flat earth tactics.

  96. Freddie Ljungberg

    RH

    Getting to a CL final is massive for a small club like Spurs, their best achievement in almost 60 years.

    When we got to the CL final and lost it was a disappointment, we should have won that game. We also have a history so although a runners up medal in the CL was more than we’ve done since or before in Europe it was not the pinnacle of our achievements in the last half a century.

    Spurs have nothing else to show for their purple patch and soon that will be over too.

  97. Receding Hairline

    “Oh he’s fucking crackers. Shilling short. Half a picnic.Me and Bob belittle Spurs as one should by pointing out their paltry football history and mocking them in relation to what they are doing at present and we are accused of defending them.Put your poms poms down Receding and get a clue.”

    You actually half very little of substance to say when the issue isn’t Xhaka

    if you don’t understand the point being made, move on, no need for silliness

  98. Receding Hairline

    “Oh he’s fucking crackers. Shilling short. Half a picnic.Me and Bob belittle Spurs as one should by pointing out their paltry football history and mocking them in relation to what they are doing at present and we are accused of defending them.Put your poms poms down Receding and get a clue.”

    You actually have very little of substance to say when the issue isn’t Xhaka

    if you don’t understand the point being made, move on, no need for silliness

  99. Receding Hairline

    Freddie the issue i am trying to raise is this

    I have read on here how Spurs have third place nailed down and it is between Chelsea, Arsenal and United to fight for fourth.

    Question is why is third place so certain for Spurs?? On the evidence of last season they were lucky to finish fourth

  100. Bob N16

    My post was saying, that this is pretty much as good as it gets for Spurs. t’s called a back handed compliment. I was acknowledging their comparative success last season but being slightly patronising at the same time saying this is is as good as it gets.

    Alderwield and Eriksen have them over a barrel. Either Spurs have to sell in the next couple of weeks for hopefully a reduced price, weakening their squad significantly or they lose them for nothing at the end of the season. It’s a lose/lose.

    There is an argument they should prioritise the PL because last year they faded terriblg with their squad going deep in the CL.

  101. Ishola70

    No Receding you don’t understand.

    If you can’t see that Bob and myself were actually mocking Spurs then that is your own issue no-one else’s.

    I was on here slating Spurs to high heaven which should be done when it was implied that they could win a CL title. I was on here the other day saying that Man City absolutely slaughtered them the other week and you have the nerve to state that I am “defending” them.

    Take these confused issues up that you have with Spurs with posters like Dissenter or TR7. These are posters that are more inclined to praise Spurs above their real capacity. Not myself. Not Bob.

  102. Freddie Ljungberg

    RH

    They did collapse hard at the end of the season, even worse than us I think. Poch gets a pass for that apparently even though he clearly had a much better squad than Emery had at his disposal, I guess that’s how it is if you’re deemed to have sauce.

    I don’t think Spurs are nailed on for third, their squad is more settled than ours and more balanced but we’re much closer than last season so we have every chance to overtake them if we can keep our key players fit.

  103. Freddie Ljungberg

    Interview with King Henry about his time as coach at Monaco:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/08/21/exclusive-thierry-henry-interview-still-believe-can-successful/

    Interesting that he had a better win percentage than saucy Jardim despite the worst injury record in Monacos history and the fact that Jardim got 8 new players in the January window as Henry was kicked out.
    Hope someone gives him another chance soon at a club not in turmoil, would love to see him succeed off the pitch as well.