Emery tries a banter too real to be funny

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“For us we don’t want to play against Liverpool ever,”

You F*CKING wot mate?

“We’d prefer not to play against them.

Oh, I see… just one of those joke things. SHEATH YOUR VERBAL SWORD.

“That is really our challenge, a good test. For the supporters, for all of us, going there with six points is good. Really our target is to reduce the distance to Liverpool, Manchester City, Tottenham and Chelsea.”

I have to say, I’m not looking forward to this one. Emery may have been bantering us harder than my dad does when he sees me wearing rolled-up jeans, ‘Look at those jack-ups you c*nt’, but be honest, the last thing we need at this stage of the season is a trip to Liverpool.

That said, there’s no better way to iron out the kinks and gain some focus in the squad than going to one of the best sides in the world.

I don’t think they are fully up to speed at the minute. I watched a chunk of the Southampton game and I tells ya, there could have been a very different outcome had Hassenhutl’s men taken a few of the very good chances they made for themselves.

Emery went into more detail about his plan.

“We are going to prepare first with the adaptation to them, their gameplan and individual players and after to impose our gameplan and capacity. We are going to prepare both defensively and offensively.

“I think first is to be positive in our capacity and then work hard. I know my past is to work hard, the present and future is going to be the same. After we can win, we can lose. But above all is be positive and keep moving ahead.”

Prattling on about hard work and the literal basics of setting up for a football game is all well and good, but this year, I’d love to see some of that research pay off during the games. How is the manager going to convert video analysis insights into something spectacular on the pitch?

Big questions are going to be had around the starting 11. Would he dare play Matteo and Willock against such a brutal side? Will he fall back on old faces, namely Granit Xhaka. Will he insist on playing out the back, despite the clear evidence the team struggles to make it work, even against shite teams?

Will we baton down the hatches? Or will we exercise some of that newfound mobility in the side?

There needs to be a progression of thinking this season. The squad has improved, the ideas have settled, so Liverpool should be the first chance to see if we’ve shaken the demons of the H2 of the Emery era.

One man who is dreaming big is David Luiz.

“In life you have to believe,” said the 32-year-old. “If you don’t try things you are never going to know if you can do it or not.

“My philosophy on life is to be positive and to be a dreamer. But understand to dream is one thing and to achieve your dream you have a lot to do.

“I can dream and we can fight for something big. That is always going to be my speech to everyone – it is possible for us and everybody.

“It is up to the team, the team is going to dream more, the team is going to prepare better, understand the game and that is it.”

David Luiz must be well aware that we have a very good squad this year, otherwise, he wouldn’t have joined. We have depth, we have quality and we have a few youngsters that could make the jump. Not title-winning, but for me, why shouldn’t we be challenging the top 3 with our squad?

We don’t have the Champions League to deal with like Spurs.

They tanked the back half of the season because of that trophy.

They basically have the same group of players.

With Chelsea fizzling out again after a good start and United looking limited, we really should be shooting for top three this season.

Right?

Am I being too aggressive?

Let me know in the comments you sexy beauties. x

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TitsMcGee

Also not looking forward to LFC. Should be an interesting barometer. If we get hammered that’s a bad sign I think.

DM

Tr4phy

Leedsgunner

Liverpool love ins… like Tottenham love ins are so boring.

They can be beaten.

We need to be disciplined, limit our turn overs to a minimum attack and defend as a team.

Turn and face, never hide.

Colney Gooner

Top 6

Guns of Hackney

Liverpool are the European champions and finished runners up in the league with the highest losing points total ever.

They have an outrageous attack and a potential world player of the year in defence.

They are at home.

We have two queefs that have taken three weeks off because of a moped duo.

Probably a thrashing.

shaun

That game was 2-2 if xhacka was playing , and that should an arsenal Fans big issue ……why is a coach who is supposed to be so tactical gonna put Xhacka straight back in the starting 11 against Liverpool , would be interesting to see other opinion as for me the guy makes a game changing error every game ……and what about Nelson has not bee setting the world alight as he is young and you can see he is being cautious as he appears to be concentrating on his positioning and defensive duties gotta a strange feeling he will… Read more »

Bojangles

The three reports I read about what Emery said about meeting Liverpool all stated that he was joking when he said it.

It would be great if Luiz’s way of thinking about football was contagious.. Auba, Laca and Ceballos are very positive just need the rest of the team to follow, especially those left over from the Wenger years.

Alexanderhenry

Pedro

‘Prattling on about hard work and the literal basics of setting up for a football game is all well and good,’

What do you want Emery to say exactly?
Do you want him to describe exactly how we’re going to set up.?

Arsenal have a very difficult game to play against Liverpool but it’ s not a forgone conclusion.
We should set up to play on the counter. With Auba there’s always a chance we can score.

Pierre

From previous thread. It shouldn’t be about how many goals a striker scores or if he scores one in 4 or 5 chances. A lot of strikers pad their stats up with meaningless goals when they knock in a goal or 2 when the game is already over. This season Aubamayang has scored 2 goals , both very well taken goals that have won us both games so are worth their weight in gold . Also, if you look at strikers like Aubameyang and Lacazette, to me Aubamayang will always have more chances because he is a natural striker and… Read more »

Sid

Midfield Torreira, ceballos with willock further forward has the mobility to do the job, laca to drop in there when we dont have the ball. Gunners will win at worst its a draw you heard it here 1st!

Sid

Size doesnt matter against football playing teams its smarts that matter, size matters against the medieval football teams

Pierre

Shaun “also would like to see the Torreia , willock and Cellabos three man midfield working just concerned it is a little light weight physically” Physicality in midfield is probably not the most important aspect for the liverpool game. The liverpool midfield is nothing special , they area good unit and function well for the team . Personally, I feel it is important to stop the supply lines , and they are the full backs . If we don’t shut down that area it may be costly . Theres no point in putting Aubameyang and Pepe wide as they will… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

It’s going to be a tough game, we all know that. I personally like the joke, there seems to be a good feeling at Arsenal right now and it’s clear that has gone all the way to the manager. With Luiz and Dani Ceballos we’ve put some much needed arrogance into the team. It’s annoying that Holding, Bellerin and Tierney are not fit, the full backs particularly. That said, playing Liverpool this early might catch them when they are not quite up and running. What money on them coming to life in this game? Aubameyang and Pepe have to sit… Read more »

Henke

I have noe belief in a victory on Saturday. Liverpool don’t fit us very well in terms of how they play, and how we want to play. The defense is still really shaky, which Liverpool will be far better able to take advantage off than Burnley and NUFC. However, for the season as a whole, I have a big belief we will at least finish top 4, possibly above Sp*rs as well. My preferred team for this match is: Leno AMN-Papa-Luiz-Monreal Torreira-Guendouzi-Ceballos Nelson/Pepe-Laca-Auba Nelson is probably a better defensive player than Pepe, as well as very neat and tidy on… Read more »

Bob N16

Staying with some Liverpool supporting mates. They’re very negative about this weekend’s game. Hope their worst fears are realised but I would take a draw here and now.

Liverpool may not be at their best but a game against Arsenal might just provoke them into form. Nick a draw and then spank Spurs. 10 pts after 4 games would be a fantastic start with a squad still in development stage.

PhD2020

Graham62August 19, 2019 09:33:34 As I said, a very angry individual and a bit of a dick.Enjoy your day. —– Says the geriatric that bangs out 100 posts per day,with every other reference to Arsene and engages with another geriatric in the form of CG.. I reckon Victor Meldrew-you walk around the neighbourhood wearing a tank top or tight t -shirt with ARSENE OUT emblazoned across the front in big bold letters. Probably walk your pet poddle wrapped up in a body and leg warmer with the same words”ARSENE OUT” emblazoned over the poor mitts body. Enjoy your day also-oh… Read more »

Lari03

I was of the opinion that we should have played Chambers instead of Guendouzi against Burnley, that way we might have kept a clean sheet, but that’s history now.

Against Liverpool I don’t fancy setting up defensively, I would rather start Martinelli and Pèpè alongside Aubameyang in a 4-3-3. Torreira, Guendouzi and Ceballos in midfield and the same defense fielded against Burnley.

This side has a chance to match Liverpool pace for pace, then bringing on Lacazette in the 2nd half when the instruction should be to get runners shooting more shots on target.

Words on a Blog

Pierre,

You’re back in form – excellent analysis of Auba and other strikers, and I agree with your views on the midfield.

Cesc Appeal

Lari Interesting. I thought we should have started Martinelli against Burnley instead of Nelson to see if he could step up. He has a lot of pace and a lot of directness. Alexander Arnold and Robertson are great full backs but they do leave a lot of space when they go forward. A good plan might be stifling Liverpool in the midfield as Spurs did in the UCL final which then means their full backs have to try and carry them into the game which will then leave even more space. A hard working midfield is what we need, highly… Read more »

Spanishdave

Keep pressing Liverpool like we did in our home game, if we let them have space that will hurt us.
Pépé could keep them busy if he can show early in the game that he has to be marked that will stop the backs coming up too far.

Nelson

I have a nose for a good midfielder. For average midfielders like Willock and Guen , they go for a save pass. Against an organized defense, you can see the ball passing back and forth without moving the defense at all. That’s only ball possession, but the attack is slow and tedious. Ceballos tries to move with the ball through the gap. It forces the defense to move and becomes unbalance. It opens up space for our other players to receive his pass in a more advanced position. I can see that once he is fully bedded in with the… Read more »

China1

I don’t think you can call willock just a safe passer. He regularly goes for long xhaka style diagonal long balls. Those aren’t easy to pull off consistently

Valentin

I would keep the same midfield and keep Xhaka firmly glued to the bench. In the first two games, Guendouzi has cut out his risk taking and does not suffer from blind panic pass like Xhaka. In his short cameo, Torreira showed that he was still lacking physicality. He was brushed aside more time than Willock and Ceballos. Last season Aubameyang got a lucky goal against Watford by pressing them, but I would play Lacazette as he is more natural in this pressing from the front role. If Liverpool stuck to playing from the back, Adrian is a goal waiting… Read more »

Dissenter

Cesc ‘I’d use Luiz whenever possible to totally bypass their press and play longballs into those channels. Van Dijk then has to choose whether to leave his central position to clear them up which leaves Lacazette in the middle’ Liverpool will win most of those balls because they have defenders that can attack the ball aerially. They will win most of the aerial challenges against out forwards line. They also have the benefit of recovery pace from Van Djke and their full backs. Lacazette is looking out fof sorts. Emery is better off playing Xhaka along with Ceballos, Torriera and… Read more »

China1

Liverpool are an awesome team but it’s one game and we go into it with more confidence than usual and some dangerous new players whilst they’re yet to get 100% shark themselves I’d take a draw all day but we should go into this looking to steal a win. An early goal could work wonders as you’d hope we’d always be dangerous for a second and even more so if they push forward more Pépé or subs are going to bang in a great goal in the first 15 mins I’m sure of it. Then after 30 mins we’ll be… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Having watched all the top 6 teams play in EPL I don’t consider any of them significantly better than Arsenal apart from Man City. Yes Arsenal always struggle away to Liverpool and no doubt many of the pundits will rank us below them and no doubt they have in Van Dijk, Salas and possibly Mane three potentially world class players. However, there are weaknesses in their team most notably in midfield where they are average. Spurs are in my view a team difficult to beat because they are well organised, fit and play a pressing game. However, does anyone consider… Read more »

Graham62

PhD

You obviously have a fetish for Victor Meldrew and some serious personal issues of your own.

I tell you what, let’s not engage with one another. Makes perfect sense to me.

You’re obviously still learning a few things about yourself and life in general.

Good luck with all of that.

All the best.

G62.

Dissenter

We need the hardest workers in the Liverpool game
Something tells me Emery will tinker, rather than use the first two games as a foundation.
He may start with Ozil which will lead to our obliteration from giving away the midfield.
Xhaka played well against midfield. I think he’s a better defender than Guendouzi, even when you factor in his gaffes.

Valentin

Willock and Ceballos are not the same type of players.
Ceballos is a dribbler who is trying to make thing happen via control in short space which can sometimes lead to mistakes. For all the good thing Ceballos did, his Aubameyang assist came from a tackle.
Willock is a runner and first intention passer. Guendouzi shot came from him exchanging passes with Guendouzi from the edge of our penalty box to avoid Burnley pressing and the making a long pass to Ceballos in space. Same thing with Torreira shot, quick first intention cut back.

Un na naai

Dissenter

That’s a terrible idea
Weak as hell.

Dissenter

*Xhaka played well against Newcastle[not against midfield]

Nelson

Nowadays, every footballer has both offensive and defensive duty, except the GK. Granted, Reiss Nelson’s offensive output is disappointing. As early as in the Newcastle game, I have already complained that he kept moving inwards instead of beating the defender as a winger. However, his track back was solid. I am not so sure that Martinelli can do that.

Wasi

I dont believe its the worst tym to play Liverpool. Salah , Mane have returned late from international duties and like Pepe arent fully fit. And fortunately for us they are probably going to be without Alission in goal which sets them back offensively anf defensively. And with Pepe in line to start and Ceballos already integrated + Ozil back we have the firepower to match them offensively. Our defense and midfield needs to be focused and strong. Also if we sit back and play on counter we have Luiz to spray the ball to Pepe who is a menace… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Dissenter

Ozil is unlikely to play against Liverpool, but I can see him used in Spurs game.
He played well against them last season.

The only reason we lost games against Watford in past is because they are physically a strong and big team.

They are very similar to Burnley. Somehow I think that Arsenal will be better
prepared when we play them this season.

Wasi

Nelson
If you watched martinelli in the preseason ud know that he is a very hard worker in the defensive side if the game too. His pressing is relentless and is not afraid to go into tackles. But he probably isnt ready for a Prem game yet.

Cesc Appeal

Absolutely no to Nelson starting at Anfield.

No way.

I would either play ALP or I’d start Martinelli.

Dissenter

Unan na
Why is weak.
Playing Laca, Auba and Pepe isn’t as great as people think. It’s foolhardy away from home at Anfield.
I prefer Xhaka to Guendouzi defensively, even when you adjust for Xhaka’s penchant for errors.
Having two runners [Willocks and Ceballos] along with Torriera and Xhaka should help us compete in the middle. We need to congest the middle.
Playing a standard 3-5-2 just sets up their excellent FBs to decimate is.

Wasi

Yeah ozil could get some minutes against Liverpool but don’t expect him to start. It should be the same midfield or maybe torreira for willock if emery wants to protecc before attac.

Wasi

CA
If pepe doesn’t start at Anfield its probably going to be Nelson. And Martinelli is not ready for big time yet and Emery might prefer mykhi over Martinelli.

Dissenter

Honestly, I’m not trying to start another ruckus with Pierre
I just don’t know of any situation where I would play Ozil unless there were injuries
There’s little need for about-to-be 31-year old attacking midfielders with three league assists in the preceding season who aren’t invested in the defensive aspects of the game.

Cesc Appeal

Wasi Nelson is far too timid. He seemed to shit himself playing Burnely at home, gave the ball away, weak in possession, weak mostly in the final third. Diligent enough getting back but that is a very basic requirement. If he surrenders possession to Liverpool’s midfield or defence as easy as he did Burnley it could be a long game. On the basis of pre-season Martinelli looks more ready than Nelson. Far more confidence, higher work rate and far more direct. Very ballsy decision if Emery plays him and a huge show of confidence in him. I just hope it’s… Read more »

Dissenter

I would start with Wilocks at ‘pool though
His direct running and ability to cover the field will be disruptive to Liverpool. It may create problems for them. We can’t just be on the back foot most of the game.

Nelson

I am talking about the rule and not the exception. If we are in a fast countering situation where the opponent’s defense is already open up, every EPL midfielder can make a good forward pass.
In the past, when we played against a parked defense, our attack looked slow and tedious. For example, the first half of the Newcastle game.

Dissenter

I agree that Nelson isn’t further ahead of Martinelli.
Don’t let that 6 weeks purple patch of a season -long loan fool you. Martinelli is braver and looks like the more seasoned footballer. Nelson will be on the transfer market come June 2020. He looks like one being fattened up for a big fee.

Champagne charlie

“We are going to prepare first with the adaptation to them, their gameplan and individual players and after to impose our gameplan and capacity. We are going to prepare both defensively and offensively.“ This is where I disagree and think he falls short, the first objective is always to look at the opponent. So we’re just a reactionary side trying to forever nullify the opposition. “Our capacity” is god knows what. I’d skip the jokes too, they don’t come off great. It’s one thing to joke like that about say a Messi, but joking you never want to play a… Read more »

PhD2020

Graham62August 19, 2019 10:58:33

All good,bearing in my mind-you engaged me..

Roger and out..

Or rather Arsene out!! 🙂

Do have a lovely day Victor!!

All the best.

Dissenter

Nelson
At worst, Martinelli defends as well as Nelson.
He has that swagger about him.
Ceiling-wise he looks like the better footballer, just my subjective opinion.

Cesc Appeal

I don’t think Emery should be too negative in the build up with the players, don’t want to send the message we just have to hold on there.

Clear plan to stifle Liverpool but also we have to know that we can get at them and cause them real problems.

The midfield has to be about mobility for us because that is all the Liverpool midfield is, mobility and work rate. There isn’t some CAM to watch.

If Bellerin and Tierney were fit and sharp, if Pepe was up to speed I’d actually be quietly confident.

Cesc Appeal

Dissenter

I agree.

Nothing wrong with it, our academy either needs to produce quality for the team or money from sales.

We’re starting to do that now and it’s the exact right approach.

shaun

I don’t believe Torreia,Ceballos,Wilock will be to light weight against Liverpool but it would be a huge risk against Spurs who rely on physical power in the middle of the park , we all like to see ball players play but we also know the Prem requires the correct mix of ball players and physical prowess .As most Arsenal supporters can probably see we need a Nodembele type player to add to the arsenal squad or put another way …. the other CM we need but hey we will see. so is it back four or a three man defense… Read more »

Valentin

Martinelli is part of the U23 team. He will be involved with the first team, but the first part of the season he is here to learn.
Being willing to defend and commit fouls that lead to free-kicks means less than tracking and blocking passes and clean tackles which is what Nelson did against Burnley and Newcastle.

PhD2020

Champagne charlieAugust 19, 2019 11:24:07
“We are going to prepare first with the adaptation to them, their gameplan and individual players and after to impose our gameplan and capacity. We are going to prepare both defensively and offensively.“

—–
Who said this?

Dissenter

I would also chill on this Tierney hype. When the lad becomes match fit, he still has to come to terms with the pace and quality of the premier league. He’s not coming to us premier league ready. The Scottish league that he dominated is shit quality [undoubtedly] . Playing in losing CL qualifiers against the champions of Latvia or Cyprus has to be flagged as CL experience. We have to be patient with Tierney. He’s not just going to waft into a starting position and dominate the league. Robertson did his learning at Hull city. Tierney may come good… Read more »

Lari03

Reiss Nelson isn’t quite ready for Liverpool, he won’t rattle them and it would be playing safe with him.

Martinelli on the other hand is quite the risk taker with direct plays and you can feel he’s likely to run his guts out to get results, defensively and offensively.

We can’t have Õzil, Mhkitaryan or Xhaka.

I look forward to seeing how Ceballos steps up at Anfield. Against Wjinaldum, Fabinho & Co, will he roast them or will they stifle him? It’s going to be a very good away game.

No fear.

Bob N16

PHD, Emery’s press conference.

Cesc Appeal

Tierney learning will be a better LB than Monreal and Kolasinac, I’m pretty confident of that.

He should only get better from there.

Dissenter

Valentin
Martinelli is in the first team and will get his chances like anyone else once the league cup and EL start.
At that point, either he or Saka will leap above Nelson on the pecking order of Nelson doesn’t take the opportunities that come his way.
Nelson isn’t some exceptional prodigious talent that we will endure with no matter what.

Bob N16

PHD, was trying to guess who would get the last word in your exchange with Graham.

Lari03

I reckon Tierney played 2 legs against PSG circa 2017 during the group stages when Emery was PSG manager, I may be wrong about the timing though, but it happened.

Dissenter

Emery will be wise to just approach the season with a mindset that gives Martinelli, Nelson and Saka an open audition.
Don’t pick any of the three as ‘senior’ player because no one has earned it.

Dissenter

Lari03
You’re right that Tierney played in both legs of the Celtic-PSG in the 2017 CL group stages.
I believe they lost that 12-1 aggregate.

Emiratesstroller

I will be surprised if Nelson starts in preference to Pepe against Liverpool. Pepe showed enough in second half of game against Burnley to confirm that he is physically stronger of the two players and that will be required at Merseyside. If Xhaka is fit he well play in starting lineup. Ceballos will also play in midfield. The third option will be between Torreira, Guendouzi or Willock. I am doubtful that Ozil will be considered in starting lineup against Liverpool having missed the first two games of the season. My view is that Ozil will have to sit on bench… Read more »

Wasi

Dissenter Going from a talent to a first teamer is an up and down curve. You can’t say for sure which of Nelson and Martinelli has a higher ceiling. What can be said is that both have high potential. You cant compare their potentials and its going to change depending on how their development goes. CA Martinelli may be more vibrant and direct but Reiss is more mature. Id even say that Saka is more mature than Martinelli. And in terms of giving the ball away Reiss, Martinelli , Saka and even mykhi are gonna do that in their current… Read more »

Champagne charlie

PhD

Emery as per his press conference as I gather

PhD2020

Champagne charlieAugust 19, 2019 11:24:07 “We are going to prepare first with the adaptation to them, their gameplan and individual players and after to impose our gameplan and capacity. We are going to prepare both defensively and offensively.“ ——— Ok,I see it was Emery..In his defence-his English is somewhat limited.Maybe,he is somewhat unable to convey his true thoughts,or articulate them properly. That said,I’m growing a bit weary in terms of trying to identify our playing style. I just don’t see it,cannot put the pieces together,which for me is rather worrying. Given,we’ve had a season and some. Our defence needs to… Read more »

HighburyLegend

“we really should be shooting for top three this season.”

Agree.
But of course, the likes of CG, Guns of Hackney, Valentinenosebest, Rambo Ramsey, Don – just to name the most famous around here – will all tell you that it’s impossible…

Cesc Appeal

Wasi

I completely disagree.

If we’re going to throw a young player in at winger then for me it’s Martinelli. I have never really been convinced by Nelson and I think we’re severely limiting ourselves in attack from the off.

If we do start in attack as we did against Burnley and Nelson and for that matter Lacazette have games like they did then it’s over before it begins.

Emiratesstroller

Wasi

Arsenal will go for experience on Saturday and not experiment against Liverpool with a bunch of teenagers as they did against Burnley and Newcastle.

Anfield is a fortress so the priority will be to contain Liverpool as long as possible. Arsenal’s major weak link is likely to be on flanks where Liverpool are offensively strong.

This is Arsenal’s achilles heel in absence of both Bellerin and Tierney. Maitland-Niles is not defensively solid, Monreal is 33 and struggles to last the
pace of game for 90 minutes and Kolasinac is not a defender.

raptora

Disappointing of Emery to say what he did that he’d rather not play Liverpool this year. We are bloody Arsenal. I know we have not been a serious club for a long time, but we still have our history, our pride. I don’t agree with his comment and I think it’s bad to openly admit that you are afraid of your opponent as the captain of the Arsenal ship. He should instill confidence and belief. Unacceptable comment by him.

HighburyLegend

Ooopsss sorry PhD, I forgot to include you in my list.

Champagne charlie

PhD Very true, could be a level of miscommunication there in detailing his outlook. However, every suggestion to date has been how Emery fixates on the opponent and that’s my overriding concern about our approach. Personally I love the confidence of those that go to every ground with the intent to impose their game, obviously aware of the threat of the opponent. We don’t seem to have the balance right from where I sit, fascinated with the opponent leaving us to wonder what our actual game is all said and done. Answer me this, what are Liverpool (or any other)… Read more »

HighburyLegend

@raptora : remember with Arsène ?? It was the exact contrary : telling the press and the whole earth that we are ready for fighting, that we are not afraid, they should be afraid of us.”

We all remember those memorable results vs chelsea, liverpool, the chavs, manure and city…. (lol)

Dissenter

CC
You take these press briefings and media fluff too seriously.
What manager has ever disclosed the match tactics of a Saturday away game on the Monday of the preceding week.
Reminds me of when you latched unto that fateful internal staff email Vinai sent after we lost in Baku.

You know the guy can’t order a sandwich in English to save his life yet you expect him to detail his match tactics 6 days in advance to the media!

Wasi

CA I completely disagree too. You say you have never been convinced by Nelson. So what makes you think Martinelli is a better option. Martinelli has merely played in 4th division Brazil and preseason for us. And by that small sample what has he done to stand out more than Nelson. To add to that we dont know how much time will he take to adapt to the Prem’s speed of the game. On the other hand Nelson has prem + Bundesliga experience. He may have not been stellar but he’s got the upper hand on Martinelli who we have… Read more »

Marko

the clear evidence the team struggles to make it work, even against shite teams?

Our passing out from the back isn’t that bad granted it’s not great but I dunno where you’re seeing bad.

Receding Hairline

When we played Liverpool last season. first game at the Emirates we matched them pace for pace, press for press and were unlucky not to win the game. At Anfeild we started very well offensively, took the lead then fell apart defensively

I would rather take my cue from those two games than whatever is said at a press conference. Acknowledging your opponents strengths has never been construed as weakness so i don’t get this meal being made from saying we will prepare to nullify their strengths.

Champagne charlie

Dissenter

On the contrary you take everything written on here too seriously.

Following the email from Vinai I literally posted a link and said “good grief”. A verbal eye roll at the impotence. You decided to latch on like I’d written chapter and verse.

Same here. I just stated what approach I favour from managers, and I didn’t expect or demand any divulging of tactics. But again, in you rush to point a finger and claim some nonsense.

Dissenter

Actually, any manger that does not start by accounting for an opposition as good as City or Liverpool is already doomed.

The Emery question is already determined – his contract expires this season. The minimum goals he has to attain to keep his job are obvious. There’s no need for drama really.
No need to start over-weighing comments from a man who still starts conferences with ‘good ebening’.

Guns of Hackney

We wouldn’t make top three if there were only three teams in the league. Arsenal will always find a way to surprise you.

As for beating Liverpool…they are scousers, 99% have an addiction of some description, a chip on the shoulder, the world owes them a living and they are thieving bastards.

Alternatively, tell a scouser the Beatles are overrated and watch them implode. Cunts.

Mancs and scousers. Yuck.

Cesc Appeal

Wasi Because I think Martinelli has a higher ceiling, has more pace, is more direct and has a better engine. I’d be more willing to give him time and roll the dice with him than Nelson. I’ve always maintained that Nelson for me is a mid-table squad player at best. I still think that will be proven true. I don’t feel as bad about Anfield as I did last year, if Nelson starts a lot of my confidence is drained unless a drastically different player turns up. We all know the issues with our full backs so our wingers ability… Read more »

Marko

Something tells me Emery will tinker, rather than use the first two games as a foundation.
He may start with Ozil which will lead to our obliteration from giving away the midfield.

Absolute nonsense honestly. If you think he’d start Ozil you’re having a laff. Stop with the predictions

Cesc Appeal

It wouldn’t surprise me to see Emery go with the same team as Saturday. The only question is whether or not Pepe is thought to be ready

Dissenter

CC Nope Charlie. You deduced that Vinai/Raul weren’t competent in their jobs because the letter written wasn’t decisive or meaningful enough. You with the Liverpool owner’s comments after they lost out of the league title. I believe you were enjoined to let their actions speak. Same here. You expect a manager to broadcast his Saturday match tactics or the preceding Monday. Who cares what a manager says on a Monday morning. Actually, Monday is still post-match analysis of Saturday’s game and recovery time for the team. They aren’t in full Liverpool mode yet. You get distracted by the seemingly sparkly… Read more »

Dissenter

Marko
‘Stop with the predictions ‘
Yes predictions are solely for your royal highness
Like Tierney will be ready to play in two weeks? Lol

Marko

I would start with Nelson Auba and Pepe honestly. Nelson hasn’t done too bad and puts in a shift defensively and Pepe I think is needed especially with Robertson being such an attacking outlet for them. Win the ball back quickly and look to Pepe. No to Lacazette he’s not fit enough and every fucking time he plays they shunt Aubameyang out to accommodate him and it’s fucking stupid. And no to Martinelli I like him but you don’t start your first competitive game away to Liverpool. Interesting to see what midfield we go with. I think it’s a given… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

Good chance to see what United are made of tonight.

Tough game.

Dissenter

I can’t believe we ditched the Iwobi experiment [rightfully so] only to want to recreate it with Nelson
That ‘at least he’s good defensively’ argument really doesn’t cut it.
Start with Pepe, that’s why we emptied a bank vault to get him. Big games- big players.
Take the fight to them. Keep their fullbacks occupied so they can’t hurt us.

Marko

Yes predictions are solely for your royal highness
Like Tierney will be ready to play in two weeks? Lol

I never said will be. Still though for you to bring that up after you spending the summer trying to convince us that he’d go to Leicester (after they sold Chilwell to City) to aid in their battle for a top 4 place is fooking hilarious. Keep it up mate I’m learning buckets

China1

I think people are too harsh on Nelson His two starts have been nothing to shout about but not every kid can deliver their best on day 1. Think how massive an occasion it is for players like him to finally make it to the team. Not all players are cesc and come in at 100%. Some need a little time to grow into it. I am not saying he should be starting at Liverpool or that he’s started the season brilliantly, but he’s been judged quite harshly which for a kid with 2 first team appearances under his belt… Read more »

China1

Also you can’t compare a kid who has only a 2 appearances with us to his name to iwobi. Iwobi was given about 3 or 4 years to produce.

If Nelson is already being compared to iwobi then he’s not doing badly for his age and inexperience

Some of you guys are brutal I swear

Champagne charlie

Dissenter At what point were you apparently anointed with the gift of telling folk what their POV is? I just stated what I posted regarding Vinai’s email, it was you that then charged through the door in absolute defence and I indulged further why I felt the email so impotent. Days later John Henry delivered a rousing sentiment among the staff at Liverpool following a CL win NOT being reason for them to rest on their laurels. So spare me your ignorant recount. Even now, claiming I want match tactics divulged in a presser? Where have I said anything approximating… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Yes Valentin is trying to pull a fast one with the constant reference to one or two defensive contributions made by Nelson on Saturday
He was pulled off at half time and everyone agreed with that call. He was ineffective and timid in possession, didn’t try a single take on nor run at the full back

Champagne charlie

“Like Tierney will be ready to play in two weeks? Lol“

There you go again…

Or how about like Tierney will be a Leicester player?

Absolute goldfish.

Marko

I’d be more willing to give him time and roll the dice with him than Nelson. I do actually tend to agree with this. It’s similar to a conversation Paulinho and TR7 were having recently about Elneny not being that bad and why Guendouzi played so much more than him last season. It’s because playing the highly rated 19 year old instead of the 26 year has far more upside to it long term wise and that’s the same with Martinelli who is likely going to be a far better player than Nelson in the long term. But in saying… Read more »

China1

Nelson is 19. What had Pépé achieved at 19?

Most of you lot hasn’t even heard of Pépé until a year or two ago…

Dissenter

China
I’m not dissing Nelson though
I just don’t think he should be guaranteed of the odd starting spot ahead Martinelli or Saka. I think the manager should let all three battle it out from an equal footing…and let the best man win.

Cesc Appeal

Nelson will certainly get his chances this year so we will see what he’s got.

Jamie

Does anyone think we’ll struggle against Liverpool in the same was Federer struggled against Djokovic pushing him to 12-12 in the 5th set during the Wimbledon final?

Predictions are great.

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