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Wow.
I’m not sure where the rumour has come from. I’m not sure if it’s true. But sometimes, you just have to embrace the madness and roll hard in the belief that the harder you hit F5 on Newsnow, the more likely the deal will come to fruition.
It looks like this all started with SPORT telling the world that Barca will be looking to move the Brazilian off the wage bill (to make way for Neymar), likely in a loan move, and likely to a Premier League club.
It’s not exactly tough transfer algebra, we can all see how we’ve landed with this sexy story.
Brazilian player + Barca + Raul + Technical Director that is exBrazil Technical Director and Brazilian + IWOBI ON THE LEFT
I’d embrace the deal.
Coutinho / Auba / Pepe in your front line is pretty fucking lethal. No more Iwobi clogging up and down the wing looking for a ball to stumble over. We’d also minimize Ozil or motivate him to play to a more consistent standard.
However… I am sceptical.
£27m in loan fee seems outrageous considering what our budget is/was. There are some other papers falling over themselves for a lower loan number with a view to a perm move next summer, all guess work. His wages also fall into an elite bracket, and without moving on Mikhi or someone like that, you do wonder how we’re planning on course-correcting our Champions League budget this summer?
- We haven’t sold anyone (have Auba or Laca signed their deals?)
- There is hardly any smoke around any of our problem players
- We still haven’t moved on a defender, so the summer isn’t finished
This feels like we’re putting all our money on RED in a spin of Champions League Qualification roulette.
… but like any fiscally prudent Republican in America would say: when a widening of the deficit is brewing but it’s for things you want, who. gives. a. fuck.
Why should I care? Let Swiss Ramble take care of the bad news because at the end of the day, money is just in our imagination. Right?
Vinnai looks like he knows his way around a spreadsheet. Stan wouldn’t let us do a madness if he was going to lose out. Raul seems trustworthy.
This is basically a tax break for a minority group of fans who have been brutally bantered by the footballing gods for over 15 years. We deserve this. We really do.
YOU had to deal with Ashley Cole being swapped for William Gallas.
YOU had to watch Nik B sit on the right-wing because no one would buy out his £52k a week deal.
After 12 years of Wenger-prudence, YOU had to watch him blast £100m on Mustafi, Perez, Xhaka, Elneny and Asano… and you clapped it, you fucking clapped it man, and your hot take was the deals looked ‘smart.’
Kallstrom’s broken back, Sanogo vs Bayern Munich, the Santos panic buy, waiting 2 summers for Chamakh, Ryo Miyachi from high school, Wellington Silva’s pizza habit, Dick Law chasing down Joel Campbell while Wenger shit his pants on Juan Mata, Gervinho instead of Hazard, a £4m bid for Cahill, Park Chu-young, passing on Hig for £32m, £40,000,001, Wenger’s Nearly 11, the epic cash pile, the ‘if we find something special’ players, Wenger knows what’s up he’ll sort it, STFU it’s only June, STFU it’s only July, STFU it’s only August… IT IS WHAT IT IS SUPPORT THE FUCKING LADS.
It’s all over my friends, Raul is here to stroke your head and make it right.
This is YOUR moment to choke out the internet with smug. Put that ‘STAN OUT’ banner back in the box. Cancel that idea you had for a Youtube Channel. No more protests. We’re turning a corner and we’re behaving like a real club.
Did you say build a statue for Raul? I’m in. Get the petition going. Let’s have the parade bus out and roll it through London during rush hour.
Back to transfers.
If we are in Barca this weekend, I suspect there will more likely be talks about Sammy Umtiti. I would also imagine that Manchester United are more likely to be in the driving seat for Coutinho if Paul Pogba leaves them for Madrid. We’ll see though, footballers are always fiercely loyal to their old clubs… right? Plus, Dybala doesn’t fancy a move there, so I’m unsure why Coutinho would see it as a great move.
Bad news on Tierney, the injury-prone left-back is apparently injured again. His manager reporting that he has chronic pain when he kicks a ball. Not great news. I always worry about bringing in players with a poor fitness record to a far more intense league. Pepe is a monster. Plays over 3000 minutes a season and rarely breaks down, this Scottish lad has had a very poor year.
We’ll see though… the 1-5-5 formation we’re lining up with so far this season feels innovative if nothing else.
There’s a video doing the rounds that Emery is going with the multi-captain option this season. I really don’t like that approach. Shared leadership is such a fucking myth. Sure, you want everyone to be a leader, but that doesn’t literally mean sharing out the role. A leadership role halved / quartered / eigthed is a role that is diluted. When everyone is responsible, no one is responsible. We are hierarchical beings, there needs to be one-point of bollocking, otherwise, you end up with what we’ve witnessed for 15 years.
We should just put it all on Hector Bellerin. Well behaved. Iconic. Loves the club. Embraces the culture. Looks mean in a pair of jeans his mum made him. Speaks up for all the right things. Elite right back. I love him, he’s the one.
Right, Barcelona game tomorrow, we’ll see how that defence has improved for real!
If we don’t add a defender this season then the window has been a failure. Pepe won’t change that.
WE,
The main reason of both Sterling and Sane has been Pep’s coaching staff and their willingness to take his input on board.
I am not convinced that the other three will make that same progression.
Dembele may the most naturally talented of all five, but unless he start to exhibit a more professionalism he will stay in the box great prospects who did not fulfill their talent.
Wasi That’s a great point Wasi. Sané is not an elite inverted dribbler like Robben or Neymar. They can get their shot whenever they want. Bayern is a good fit for him until the next World Cup. I don’t see Coutinho signing because of the loan fee + salary. I definitely would take him as he is a player that I like. Would add more end product, which gets you closer to CL football. However, if he plays in the front three, I don’t think he complements either Lacazette or Aubameyang that well. Feel Özil and Pépé will enjoy playing… Read more »
I think you lot highky underestimate Ox
He’s got quality
He can dribble, shoot cross and pass
He is quick powerful and athletic
What he lacks is confidence, fitness and calmness in the final third.
He’s better than any of our current central midfielders as they are right now.
Un na
Yeah but it’s like Ramsey – what good is a player who misses huge chunks of every season injured.
Marc
That’s not what’s being said though. What’s being said is that he is pretty much shit.
Eagle
He could be over compensating. I know people who are shy and show off to hide their embarrassment.
Always rated Ox.
Got into a rut at Arsenal (unsurprising).
Could be a big player for Liverpool this season, providing he stays injury free.
There were signs last season, before his injury, that Klopp was starting to get the best out of him.
I don’t i derstand the negativity towards him. Highly talented footballer who was mismanaged at arsenal.
No doubting Ox’s qualities, but think he could do well at Liverpool providing he stays fit, one of the bigger question marks he has always had over his head.
Pace, strong runner with a big engine who can pass, cross and occasionally produce a thunder bastard of a goal, he could of been the new Ray Parlour!
Un na
He wasn’t shit he just never could string a run of matches together to get match fit.
He’s about to turn 26 – what are the odds he breaks down and misses 3 months or more of the coming season at some point?
Wenger leaves……….. Not happy.
Emery arrives…………..Not happy.
Change occurs…………Not happy
We buy Pepe…………….Not happy.
Progress is being made….Not happy.
Spurs win the Audi cup….Happy
LOL
Samesong
First reaction was to laugh, second reaction is actually Spud fans are (have always been) delusional about who they are and a number of Le Grove posters need to get a grip.
Sterling 30 goal a season….lol
After selling Idrissa Gueye to PSG, Everton are now interested to Abdoulaye Doucoure of Watford. According to L’Equipe Everton have offered €30 millions but Watford wants €40 millions. With the money raised Watford would then buy Ismaïla Sarr of Rennes.
Looks like Everton are quietly and efficiently building a team to really challenge for top 6 position.
Read something today that should Koscielny leave our longest serving player will be Emmy Martinez. Rumour did him going too, so after that it would be Jenkinson. Captain Carl?
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Peter, Peter, Peter…pack this shit in. Reading the comments these maniacs post here for coming up to 9 years, 99% of them lack a reality switch…don’t feed them BS like Coutinho slumming it at the Gunners.
Not only will PornHub take an absolute beating tonight (pun intended) but the streets won’t be safe.
You duty as a responsible site owner is to calm the crazies, not inflame them.
Emery out.
Bottle of ale.
Three day old wine that now tastes like port.
Probably some no brand vodka and orange.
Vegan steak and fat chips, slice of bread.
Wonder baby currently asleep…a night in the life of me.
Very retro feel to the new team kits this season
Umbro making a comeback too.
Coutinho is smoke and mirrors to stop Utd trying to gazump us for Umtiti. Don’t get me wrong, I’d have him in a heartbeat, good-bye bug eyes.
Why would they though, we’ve got Cabellos to play behind PEA,Laca,Pepe
Put a couple of solid defenders in there LB and CB and we’re rollin with the big boys in terms of first 11 at least.
Would love it though, just to piss off all my scouse mates who were born in the home counties.
Vegan steak??
No thanks
Un
It’s great. My wife was a vegetarian for ten years, fell off the wagon and now we’ve both been vegetarian for coming up 3/4 years. I love animals…always have and I feel utterly distraught I ever ate them. But, small steps. I will never eat an animal again.
Humans? I have zero love for. I’d happily hunt them all day long.
Guns
I am 3 months vegetarian myself and I got to say I feel great. Couldn’t do vegan though, pizza and ice cream is just too good.
All this Vegan talk making me hungry for a steak.
Omnivores ! Unite against the green eaters!!
😂
Palace got beat 4 0 vs Hertha Berlin
Poor Zaha
Chris
We’re not vegan, too extreme. But these steaks are vegan. A company called Vieria if you can believe it??? High class stuff, very legitimate.
Honestly, I cannot believe I ever ate meat. I adore animals, utterly love them but are them. Growing up and living in London, or any city gives you a skewered perspective on where food comes from. It’s in a bag, or in cling film. Moving to the countryside changed everything. Now our garden is like a wildlife sanctuary.
Quit smoking (2 years). Vegetarian. Peachy.
Hackney
Bit extreme. Hunting people. I don’t think you really mean that. You just enjoy the controversy.
Un
With some of the degenerates that live in the world, why not?
How about that sick bitch who killed her twins?
Or the animal that left his children to cook in the car?
Nothing controversial about that…I would, as I’m sure many more would particularly enjoy hunting those types to extinction.
Goh
Yeah. I get that. Maybe best to say you’d prefer to hunt sick people who harm children
Guns of H
I think you need to find something better to do than to hang around Arsenal
All you do here is moan.
Valentin
Agreed about Everton
A central midfield base of Jean-Philippe Gbamin and Doucore will be devastating. Both are physical, athletic and very mobile defensive midfielders that can switch to a box-to-box role.
Everton, Leicester [under Rodgers] and Wolves will break the top-6 mould this season. I suspect we will be talking about top-8 in the not-too distant future.
GoH
How about hunting down the sick bastards who introduced the bedroom tax.
GoH
If you can find them I recommend the ‘Beyond Burger’. Looks just like a meat burger and tastes amazing.
Red
Ummm…that’s your mob. Not mine.
Chris. Done.
Moving mountains burger also fantastic.
Concerning Man Utd, though Ferguson won the league, he actually left a shite squad. That squad he left was average at best with some good individuals such as RVP.
Chamberlain’s sale was one of my happiest day in life. The guy just couldn’t stay fit. Just like Wishere, Ramsey. I’ve got no emotional attachment to them. They are talked about here often because what is left is worse than what them.
Lenon is just exaggerating the condition of Tierney. If he were to be a crock it will have been known by Sanhelli and the team. They ain’t dumb!
Rt
Priced out of your council flat were ya? 😂
Watching Premier League years 2015/6 on Sky and yeah, we really failed to grab the bull by the horns that season.
Lukaku was a beast for Everton also.
Un
Lolz. Well played. Well bloody played.
Fucking Hell
It looks like it has finally sunk in
Tierney is an injury ridden Jock Crock who we should avoid like the plague
I’ve been banging this drum for weeks now
Kay
All three were destined to be top top class midfielders
Two still can be at their current clubs.
Wilshere has the highest ceiling. As Neville said he was the player of his generation
Wenger ruined all 3 by being indecisive andrinning them into the ground. The training pitches were too hard for developing bodies and that’s why so many youngsters were injury plagued. It may have been conducive to wengaball but it was also conducive to soft tissue damage and ligament strains.
What a waste of such talent
Red
You are an agitator extraordinaire. Stop posting that shit.
Rt
Didn’t know you made YouTube videos. Cats out the bag now though. You’re a certified looooony 🤪🤪🤪
‘Dam end autocorrect – That’s Gentelbris not Gentleness!’
WOB,
Gentleness sits well with me as well 😎😎😎😎😎😎
GoH –
Good on you. Animal agriculture is the single biggest contributor to human-related greenhouse emissions, and by some margin.
Keep it up!
27m for a year loan on top of the 15m we have slung Madrid…
Ain’t happening
Hill wood.
Agree
There must be a left back in France that’s decent .
The first question if you are going to recruit Coutinho is where would you play him? His main position is left wing. If you recruit him as a left winger it means that either Aubameyang or Lacazette is going to lose his place in starting lineup. Also should you decide to play him in midfield who is going to lose his place in starting lineup. Personally I don’t like accumulating more than one short term loan in squad and certainly not if we have to pay a significant loan fee and high wages. That is not how you build a… Read more »
Today’s news about Tierney’s fitness also raises concern. Should Arsenal be
pursuing such a player and spending £25-30 million on him?
He may be talented, but it makes no sense on spending money on him this summer if he is unlikely to play for several months. We have already committed
£27 million on Saliba who will not be in our squad this season.
“Barcelona game tomorrow, we’ll see how that defence has improved”
Let’s be serious, no way we can lose this one with Mustardi and Xhaka playing.
Guys, if you could kindly stfu about politics.
This is a strictly Coutinho kind of day.
Agreed stroller
Ulmiti also has injury problems…
We should be looking at thinking outside the box…
Left field thinking.
All that money falling from the sky is wonderful – although a bit disturbing, as Arsenal fans, we aren’t use anymore to live that kind of summer – but what about the new defenders ?
Pedro
Coutinho isn’t coming to arsenal. Surely
That’s me told.
We need defenders
We have 5 days left
The only defender we’ve brought in is Sokratis in two seasons, I’m not counting lich
We would be better takin* a punt on
Ryan sessogon for the 25m we were going for Tiranay
Or Brentford Rico Henry ..
He would be lot cheaper good defender who has good passing ability.
Rspc, we never paid 15m for Ceballos neither any club is going to pay over 20m fee for a loan. It ain’t happening. Barça won’t put such amount for loan. That amount gets u a descent player. The media are just winding us all up. All these reports are from unreliable sources. End of.
Leno
Bellerin Sokratis New CB Tierney
Torreira New CM
Pepe Coutinho Zaha
Aubameyang
Leno
Bel holding papa Henry
Cabellos torr
Pepe ozil pea
Laca
We could get Henry for 8m…
Would be a bargain.
‘LenoBellerin Sokratis New CB Tierney Torreira New CMPepe Coutinho Zaha Aubameyang’
You shouldn’t stop at Coutinho and Zaha, you should add Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar.
No to tiernay..
Yes to Rico
Fuck it being back maradona n pele ..
As a good player Coutinho is, he’s an unnecessary luxury player for us now, unless Barcelona was to take someone like Özil or Xhaka from us. We should be pushing hard for either Barcelona’s best youngsters or their defenders… not necessarily Umtiti (he’s injury prone) but what about any of the others?
There has to be a big fucking German cl somewher3 out there that fits our criteria …
Bout 20 m quick strong and a ball player
R.S.P.C.Arsenal,
You still want us to get a defender?
You’re so, so last year.
Who needs a defence? We’re going all-out attack and expect to win our matches with tennis scores, you know 6-4, 7-5 etc.
Words
Issue ardiles showed that scoring 4 goals don’t necessarily mean you win the game…
RSPCA,
Remember that match when Arshavin scored 4 against Liverpool at Andield and we still ended up drawing the match 4-4?
Words
Newcastle the same…
For years, the only people scared and intimidated by an Arsenal defence have been the Arsenal fans……
I have the feeling the board has become a gambler. It’s all in to get the champions league qualification this year. If we fail, we’ll be fired by KSE.
Dissenter
I actually think Pedro deserve credit to come around about the new management than to find fault to justify his earlier position.
Truth be told before last week we had seen very little and though now we know that there was a lot brewing behind the scenes, Pedro initial impressions were based on the lack of activity.
Though his view on any contacts based transfer being inherently worse than a data driven one was a bit of a doozy.
Sid, gotta love Dissenter.
‘Previously entrenched’ is an oxymoron when the original critique was that I’d changed my mind.
Not sure anyone paying attention two weeks ago was sitting here thinking Stan K was an attentive owner and Raul was bossing the summer with his contacts game.
Lol so true Pedro I really want to see us press on with a proper CB to play alongside the Greek before we entertain the notion of Coutinho
We can all change our mind two weeks ago I was crying in my soya based latte rather that then drink it
Serge, thought I’d love to see Coutinho at Arsenal just for the spectacle, I’d imagine if we’re hunting down anyone it’s Umtiti on loan with a view to a deal next year.
Can’t see how we could foot the bill for £27m in loan fee!
I have been rolling with steamed oat milk in my coffee… can hardly tell the difference… but the tears do gum up the flavor.
Wonder if there’s anything in Rugani?
Belle tin as captain no thanks
He still hasn’t proved he’s good enough as an option long term and he hasn’t demonstrated that he’s a leader on the pitch at all
There aren’t really any serious long term candidates so far imo
Given a choice between umtiti and coutinho I’d take umtiti all day every day this summer Putting coutinho on the wing is a waste imanywah imo. If he were to come he should be taking ozil’s place in his best position at AM so we can keep auba laca pepe on the pitch Unless the plan is just to overload the attack with big names players and somehow force them all on at once lol Auba-laca-Pepe Ozil-coutinho —torreira In all honesty, if you have two elite CBs (we don’t) + a fit Tierney and bellerin this gung ho line up… Read more »
We still haven’t got any defenders over the line which are a key priority so I’m holding off a little on the praise for Raul so far -The Pepe deal was magic -Ceballos looks like a very good deal -Martinelli looks promising but no real comment so far But we haven’t got Tierney over the line yet and our CB situation still sucks. We also haven’t managed to shift out any of the dross whatsoever. Reports that we just put our defensive dross on the to sell list are nuts because we should’ve been shipping them around Europe looking for… Read more »
Supposedly Bordeaux are in advanced stages of talks to buy kos
If they’re offering anything over 3m just take the money and run
Thanks for the memories kos see ya.
Good post, Pedro. I would add “thank you for the interest in our affairs” as a particular low point for me.
Im surprised it’s proves so tough for us to find a defensive signing, though. There’s a few decent defenders gone already this summer. My suspicion is that Kos was seen as the transition to Saliba and a new Sparkly CB coming in next year to play alongside him with Sok and Holding. Or a LB/CB. Well, he’s fucked that up and that’s why we are struggling with our budget to plug the GAP.
Moray, it is odd… but we thought the lack of a elite winger was odd, then Raul dropped Pepe. Maybe there’s something going on?
Won’t Leicester now be looking at defenders to replace Maguire? We have a few defenders like Mustafi and Mavropanos… why not offer them those two to see if they will bite? With £85m now burning a huge hole in their pockets I can see them now trying to buy Tierney with Brenda being a huge fans of the boy… Here’s a thought… Let them have Tierney. Offer them Mavropanos and Mustafi for Chilwell plus £10m cash. They get their Maguire replacement and we get a LB for a minimal outlay… especially they bring in Tierney because they will want to… Read more »
*fan
What about Tarkowski as a CB option? Apparently he has a £20m release clause… although Burnley is trying to increase it with a new contract extension…
We really need to sell off our remaining deadwood.
Jenkinson £5m
Mustafi £20m
Elneny £10m
Mkhitaryan £20m
That’s £55m just from deadwood.
I am puzzled as to why Arsenal have not pursued Matthias Ginter the German
International Centre Back.
Spurs and Athletico Madrid are apparently pursuing this player.
Perhaps we could do a part exchange deal with Mustafi going in opposite direction?
“Harry Maguire’s potential move to the North West would likely prompt a bid from Leicester for another England defender, Burnley’s James Tarkowski – although the Foxes may baulk at the £50m release clause in his contract.”
And barca scores,,,,, what a goal from Carles puyol.
The football world is going mad £27 million for a loan?
Is counting an elite player? Not for me!
£27 million for a CB is what we should be looking at.
Coutinho*
I’m not sure it’s really that hard for us to get defensive signings, we’ve just been very casual about it We’ve been haggling over Tierney, a player we can certainly afford since day 1. We only appear to have made a concrete offer for any CBs (loan option for rugani) as if a few days ago Seems like we’ve put all our energy and efforts on our midfield and offensive options so far this summer If we get defensive signings over the line I won’t be complaining but as with only just now putting our dross on the market, we… Read more »
Yeah if we can spend 27m on a CB, then we should be putting that as an upfront installment for a serious CB rather than looking at offensive players
Part of me would love to see arsenal pull out of this Tierney deal if we can get a good alternative
Celtic think they’re all that, so I’d love us to walk away and leave them hanging with an unsettled player when they return to their shitty pub league
Still think we need an athlete in the midfield….that can cover ground and tackle….to cover for Xhakanigans…Torrie is too small. A CB and a proper effective body that can screen the defense…Arsenal are the onely team without one
Instead of going all in for Tierney then lacking funds for a CB, why not put all those Tierney funds towards installments for a top CB and let Celtic cry when Tierney’s value drops with never ending injuries and him being unsettled
Screw Celtic, let’s get a CB
Toni boy why not just replace xhaka instead of buying players to cover his weaknesses?
2 Eastern Europeans will do the trick….tidy, no nonsense, no frills players…a Vidic and a young Matic, Kovacic type player….that can chase down attackers
If wishes were horses mate….he seems like a candidate for captain. Not going anywhere
Fasf
It looks like Burnley got him to sign a contract extension then… oh well.