Nicolas Pépé – Biggest signing of the decade

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Arsenal’s summer is well and truly rocking.

Nicolas Pepe finally landed on the .com. It has to be the most shocking signing since we landed Dennis Bergkamp. Out-fucking-rageous.

How the hell did Raul pull that move off? The player reckons he had the choice of Liverpool, United, Bayern and Arsenal.

Sure, some of that might have been related to moving up north or having to live in Munich — whatever it was that tipped him our way, it’s an immense achievement and a HUGE signal of intent for the upcoming season.

Things I love about this move:

He’s just turned 24 years old. We have him on the upward trajectory. He was the best-attacking force in Ligue 1 outside the PSG collective. This is basically us signing Eden Hazard of 2019.

Raul has tough financial restrictions to deal with, instead of mincing around pleading poverty and crying about how life is so fucking tough at a rich club, he’s gotten creative. We’ve structured a deal that works for us and a competitor and the transition seems to have been fairly smooth.

We’re now engaging with super agents and family members. I think this is one of those things you’d rather not know the true details of… but the reality of football is it’s a murky business, now we have a character willing to do whatever to get a deal over the line. If we had that sort of attitude on the pitch, maybe we’d be in the CL. Also worth noting that if we’d had that sort of mindset a few years ago, we’d have Mbappe in our starting 11.

This is a big boy signing. I think many people feared we were sliding down the pecking order for the type of player we could sign. We’ve landed two hugely exciting young players, we have an elite number 8 in Ceballos, a wow winger and I think there’s every indication we might bring in Tierney and a centre back.

This is a reminder to the naysayers… we are still an elite club, and a rebirth under the right leadership is possible. Think about that when you’re wondering whether a proper manager would ever consider joining us: short answer, yes.

So far, it’s been a great summer. Even wilder if we move on Mustafi.

It’s hard to fathom where this season is going to take us.

I love the new players, but the cold hard reality is that we haven’t moved the defence along and the new attacking bodies we have aren’t bedded in. Our opening month is going to be tough. I think once the stardust has settled, we might be in for a bit of a shock. Better attacking players make us harder to box in, but they don’t stop Xhaka kicking himself in the face, and they won’t stop the heart-attack that is our backline.

One problem at a time… for now, let’s just bask in the glory of a much better summer than we’d hoped for.

Let’s also laugh at the Spurs players treating a preseason trophy win like a real trophy.

Let’s also laugh at Dybala being lukewarm to the idea of going to play under Ole Gunnar Car-crash.

They’re having the summer we thought we were having… so amusing. x

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  1. tony

    Perfectly understandable Don.

    Vietnam and Cambodia with some mates and itchy feet, sounds like a recipe for fun and the odd disaster.

    China1
    Hope you make it to Singapore I would imagine the lifestyle being better with good education as we looked at Singapore for our daughter’s uni.

    Sounds like there’s a good Gooners’ club in Singapore. I almost went to watch Arsenal last pre season but family commitments prevented me from going with my son.

    Also, looked at Shanghai for her, but she opted for Bangkok and Melbourne.

  2. andy1886

    Have been to Singapore several times but always on short business trips. Nice place but didn’t get to look around as much as I’d like. Have also been to Indonesia, got stuck on the main road into Jakarta from the airport for ages right next to a big billboard advertising ManU’s local tyre partner. Made me wonder why I never saw similar Arsenal related advertisements on my travels, now I know, it’s because Ivan was doing a terrible job on the commercial side.

  3. Emiratesstroller

    Tony

    My daughter who is in senior management decided to take a break between
    jobs three years ago. She decided to go back packing for 4 months with a friend. rather than send time in expensive hotels, which she could afford if she wanted to.

    She spent time in Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Borneo and Indonesia. She enjoyed walking, climbing, scuba diving and the simple life, which is probably
    the best way to travel in Far East in your 20-30s.

  4. tony

    andy1886
    That’s why I don’t want to go to Jakarta; my life complains bitterly about the traffic problems there.

    Don
    “Was thinking of doing a charity climb of Mount Fuji or Killamanjaro at some point before 40”

    Go for it Don that’s very cool.

  5. Emiratesstroller

    Andy 1886

    Yes Jakarta is a shithole apart from the centre of town and where the business
    community live. The journey from airport was awful because of traffic jams and the scenery including open sewers and shanty areas was equally depressing.

    When I went to see clients they were astonished that I preferred to walk rather than take taxis even for short trips, because of the high crime risk.

  6. Un na naai

    Vietnam and Cambodia with some mates and itchy feet, sounds like a recipe for fun and the odd disaster.

    Tony
    Hmmmm, that’s the concern.

  7. Freddie Ljungberg

    Marc

    I would fully endorse that plan.

    We would have a very good team this year if that happens and if we replace Xhaka and get the best young CAM/CM money can buy (someone like Havertz) next summer, with the addition of Saliba we are ready to compete again.

  8. Un na naai

    Freddy

    Your plan is to put Havertz alongside Torreira? Yeah. Great idea. A 20 year old no10 in a two man midfield at arsenal??

    No thanks

  9. andy1886

    Stroller, yeah the traffic was awful, then you get into town and there were like a million kids on mopeds flying all over the place. Amazed not to see any accidents. I did an audit on a company that was data wiping our IT equipment ready for disposal and their ‘security’ was a scruffy looking bloke with a couple of German Shepherds. Did not inspire confidence! Wouldn’t recommend as a holiday destination.

  10. Pierre

    Stroller
    “Despite all the negativity about Xhaka who is regarded as a “Marmite” figure he played quite well alongside Torreira in the first half of last season. His
    shortcomings were exposed when Torreira lost form in second half of season.”

    Yes , it was a rather strange decision to ask Torreira to play more as a box to box midfielder after starting the season so well alongside Xhaka.
    He obviously hasn’t got the stamina or recovery speed to play that role and was often seen floundering as he struggled to get back into position.

    Shame really because he is a very good player when used correctly.

  11. Un na naai

    Pierre

    Yes. Fucking weird. Bit like dropping Lacazette when he was clearly our best attacking player at the time or claiming you want to build your team around Ramsey and ozil then dropping them both after two games.
    Or playing a high line with slow defenders. Or constantly using your full backs as your go to tactic when you have two quick and lethal strikers in your team.

    Let’s see what he does this season with his new toys.

  12. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    No, obviously Havertz (or similar) wouldn’t come in to replace Xhaka, thought that was clear.

    I have no problem with having a young midfield though, miles better than having a 30 year old Ozil and 26 year old Xhaka. Torreira would also have had 2 years in the PL by then.

    I would get someone like Sangare to help Torreira out defensively and let Havertz work his magic in front of them.

  13. andy1886

    Torreira has only just started training again, he isn’t going to be ready for the first game, probably not the second either. Would like to see Willock start but it will probably be Guen plus Xhaka and Ceballos if we play a midfield three. Would rather stick to a back four but whichever way you look at it we’re not going to see any defensive improvement immediately even of we close out deals today so we’re going to have to outscore our opponents. Wouldn’t be surprised either to see Mhiki start and Pepe come off the bench at Newcastle.

  14. Leedsgunner

    It’s just sour grapes from the mainstream media like TalkSport who cannot believe Arsenal has pulled off such a transfer coup.

    Had we failed, you know they would have been the first ones to criticise us and how our transfer failures prove how we are a diminished club.

    Funny how they can’t bring themselves to congratulate Arsenal for a good piece of transfer business.

    Pepe is just a starting block though.

    We need to shift out the deadwood and use the money to buy in some quality defenders. If we bring in a left back or a centre back worthy of the shirt… it will be the best transfer window so far this century.

    Buy quality in the first place we don’t have to regret later.

  15. Words on a Blog

    Emirates,

    Ah the Rasa Sayang (Malaysian for “endless love”)

    Gorgeous place – had part of our honeymoon there…long time ago.

    If you’re looking for a relaxed place in SE Asia, I’d recommend the island of Langkawi off the North West coast of Malaysia right up towards Thailand.

  16. Pierre

    Andy ( Marko mk2)
    “Torreira has only just started training again, he isn’t going to be ready for the first game, probably not the second either. Would like to see Willock start but it will probably be Guen plus Xhaka and Ceballos if we play a midfield three”

    Ceballos has played 20 minutes football for us , I would have thought that if the manager wanted him to start our opening game he would have given him game time v Angers.
    I said at the time that, unless he was injured , it was a strange decision by the manager not to give him some game time …
    Maybe he will start v Barca, that will give us a good idea of his capabilities.

  17. Leedsgunner

    Anyone know about Kieran Tierney’s injury record like? I know he’s out now but has he been injury prone before?

  18. Leedsgunner

    Almost all transfer deals of note are paid in instalments AND either they have add on clauses included in them but both of these very common contractual devices have been derided to mock Arsenal.

    Talk about an agenda…

  19. Receding Hairline

    “2016/17 – 15 games missed
    2017/18 – 3 games missed
    2018/19 – 24 games missed
    2019/20 – 7 games missed

    Does not look too good to be honest.”

    Hmmm spelt out like this it does not look good really

  20. Guns of Brixton

    2016/17 – 15 games missed
    2017/18 – 3 games missed
    2018/19 – 24 games missed
    2019/20 – 7 games missed

    Its that 24 games makes the record look Ugulyyyy

  21. andy1886

    Pierre (Ozil’s Buttplug).

    Didn’t want to bring it up again but hey, if you want to go there it’s already been pointed out that you’re looking for any reason to trash Ceballos and previously Ramsey because they threaten or threatened your boy Mesut’s place in the team.

    For the record I’m not an Ozil fan (who would’ve guessed?) but it’s not just the player, I dislike the basic concept of AFC playing a playmaking #10 because when they don’t perform we’re effectively down to ten men. It’s a luxury we can’t afford and a relic of AW’s obsession with technical ability over every single other attribute. The sooner we consign the idea to the bin it belongs in the better.

  22. Un na naai

    Vickingz

    Yeah some nice people but great nation?? It’s unsafe. My uncle works out there regularly and I can assure you he doesn’t think it’s great.

  23. fsaf

    #BringbackGibbs 😂

    hahaha I loved Gibbsy and I loved Clichy… I still curse him for that horrendous defending against B’ham in the dying seconds of the game… What a bad piece of defending that was.

  24. Pierre

    Marko( mk2)

    You mentioned that Ceballos should start v Newcastle .

    I mentioned that it may have been wise to have given Ceballos some game time v Angers if Emery wants him to start him .

    You mention Ozil .

  25. Leedsgunner

    Thanks fsaf and Left T

    I hope we are looking at others in light of that record.

    What about Ricardo Rodriguez at AC Milan? Gazidas owes us a few favours to be honest.

    I think I would even look at Ryan Segnesson at Fulham… and it would have the added bonus of really annoying Spurs and doing to them what they almost did to us during the Saliba deal.

  26. CG

    Why ain’t we in for London born Sessignion ?

    Versatile ( can play further forward too)
    Lots of improvement in the locker.
    Good attitude
    Great fitness record.
    No busted Hernias.
    Played in the Prem
    Seems level headed.
    Sensible Fee

    Possibly the new Bale.?

    Here is a player we should be recruiting!

    Am I Right or am I right?

  27. Leedsgunner

    Anyone watch the Bundesliga regularly? Anyone know much about Marcel Halstenberg, the left back at RB Leipzig?

  28. Gonsterous

    So is pepe a RW or a LW cause we can have martinelli play the other wing. Both are technically very gifted and have pace. We could have iwobi and saka for back up. And auba can also play out wide.
    Defense needs sorting though.

  29. Freddie Ljungberg

    Gons

    Pepe is RW, doubt Martinelli is ready to get more than a couple of sub opportunities though, Nelson, Saka much more likely to get starts on the left.

    Nelson looked very good there in pre season.

  30. Pierre

    Andy
    ” it’s already been pointed out that you’re looking for any reason to trash Ceballos”

    Does this comment trash Ceballos
    “Ceballos has played 20 minutes football for us , I would have thought that if the manager wanted him to start our opening game he would have given him game time v Angers.
    I said at the time that, unless he was injured , it was a strange decision by the manager not to give him some game time …
    Maybe he will start v Barca, that will give us a good idea of his capabilities.”

    of course not , so you qualify for the https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4pQcn2L65J0 award.

  31. gunnershabz

    Bielik is gone and Asano

    that is a raise of £10m there

    just need to get rid el neny, mustafi, jenko

    hopefully they get £30m from all that

  32. andy1886

    Pierre, it suggests to me that you don’t think that Ceballos should start at Newcastle. My original post was about Torreira not being ready for that game and who I thought would start. Why specifically question Ceballos and not for example my other pick of Guendouzi? Answer is because Guen isn’t an alternative to Ozil. You’re so transparent.

    So, who would you pick then and why?

  33. fsaf

    TLDR from the journo piece I posted above which is really interesting and well worth the read:

    Pepe is represented by 3 agents who are more or less like family to him but not really experienced in their job. Other agents have called them “amateurs”.

    Pepe was on really low salary in Lille – £27k pw or ~£110k per month so he and his agents were very interested in a transfer cause raise in salary could have been 5 times or so (he’s probably on salary of ~120k a week which is a very acceptable salary for the Arsenal imo), while other attacking players in France like Thauvin and Bernard Traore are already on £95k pw and £70k pw respectively making them not as attractive because they would have liked a lot higher salary than Pepe.

    Pepe’s agents and Lille made sure there is a lot of noise because they wanted to sell the player and the player wanted a transfer. And they all wanted good money.

    Liverpool were apparently REALLY interested but there were doubts that he won’t be getting the same time as he would in a team that he could become the superstar for couple of years and after that he would chase a transfer to a mega club or he would stay with this team if they were to show improvement.

    Napoli’s interested was very real. And it was a matter of hours before he signed for them instead.

    Then came Jorge Mendes and Arsenal. Mendes told Pepe’s agents about the interest from Arsenal and “Arsenal were more willing to meet the demands made by Pépé’s trio of agents on commission (€5m minimum) and salary (€8m a year) than Napoli were and this played a pivotal role as Mendes’ main point of argument to convince Pépé and his clan to accept Arsenal’s proposal, despite the fact that Arsenal are currently only offering Europa League football.”

    Pepe knew about Saliba coming to Arsenal. Bellerin being a really talented right back was important for him as well. And the Arsenal young team trying to go back to the top project really excited him.

    In the end, especially for a group of relatively inexperienced agents, money talks.

  34. andy1886

    Good luck to Bielik then, thought he would be worth at least a chance with the first team squad but it wasn’t to be.

  35. Receding Hairline

    Pierre Torriera had one of his best games playing like a box to box midfielder against Spurs, this talk he was killing it while sitting alongside Xhaka is wrong because we never played with two siting, he simply ran out of steam, new league , world cup exertions and all.

  36. Freddie Ljungberg

    So that’s 4.5m for Ospina, 4.5m for Bennacer, 10m for Bielik and 1m for Asano.

    20m in without even touching the first team squad.

    We really need to get moving with getting out some deadwood, sure the european window is open longer but it would be nice to ship at least a few before that, could be the difference between getting a decent CB on loan or an excellent one permanently.

    Mikhi, Elneny, Kos, Mustafi and Jenks should all be out the door at a minimum this summer.

  37. andy1886

    fsaf – sounds like Anelka’s brothers who were also his agents back in the day. Hope they are less trouble than those guys . If he does well and we sell in two or three years for a massive profit then fair enough, if he isn’t interesting the very best clubs by then I’d be more concerned.

    I like Tierney but if we could get Aarons from Norwich for a similar fee I’d be happy with that too. Can play either FB position which would be a bonus but I expect the asking price would be too high.

  38. Freddie Ljungberg

    Andy

    Aarons is mainly a RB, he’s not moving this summer anyway, just signed a new contract with Norwich last month.

  39. Valentin

    Receding,

    From the article cited above by fsaf.

    “Under Marcelo Bielsa, Pépé learned an awful lot, moving into a centre-forward role despite being more comfortable on the right-wing and becoming a more complete player as a result.”

    So does it mean that Pepe plays as a CF?

  40. andy1886

    Freddie, if we are looking to sign a CB then Chambers has to be on the out list. Must be worth £25m of anyone’s money in this market.

  41. Freddie Ljungberg

    Andy

    I would like to see Chambers get moved on too, but I think if Mustafi and Kos both leave we’re keeping him.

    Doubt we’d be interested in buying 2 CBs when we have Saliba coming in next year. He’ll be ok as 4th choice and we can still flog him next summer, he has a long contract.

  42. Valentin

    Receding,

    From that same article,

    “Under Galtier, he worked on being more direct, allowing him to explode. LOSC became dependent on him for much of last season, but were only able to become so as Galtier masterfully shaped his team that way, playing counter-attacking football and bring other attacking players to repeat dummy runs time and time again in training to draw opposition defenders AWAY from the Ivorian in competitive matches. ”

    Looks like Lille was setup specifically to avoid players making the same run than Pepe. Two players making the same run is easier to defend than two players making opposite runs. (Who would have known). So looks like somebody (Aubameyang or Pepe) will have to learn to make run that are not natural to him. I wonder who disagree with that statement…

  43. Receding Hairline

    Valentin i am not responding to you

    Anyone who cannot apologize when they get things wrong is not worthy of an interaction. You called me a liar and when i proved you were the one who worded your post wrongly you acted like you never saw it now you pipe up to discuss Pepe the center forward. Pepe is not a striker…end of.

    Players in a front line are allowed to interchange, deal with it. Heat maps from last season show Aubameyang and Pepe operating from different areas of the pitch, they are not colliding with each other unless they are comedians.

  44. fsaf

    Wonder if Ryan Sessegnon is a LB or LW. If he’s still considered a LB is he better than Tierney? Sessegnon’s last campaign wasn’t exactly amazing. Just checked in whoscored that he has the 17th best score in Fulham when Chambers is sitting at 3rd. He is high rated though.

  45. Valentin

    Left,

    Seasegnon is overrated player, because Fulham can’t decide if they want him to be a fullback or a winger.
    He is a better attacker than the usual fullback, but can’t defend.
    He is better defender than usual winger but not effective as pure winger.
    He needs to spend a full year learning a single position. He would then progress a lot more.

  46. Receding Hairline

    this “runs natural to them” bit is just tiresome

    Do you even know what natural means?? So you are suggesting Aubameyang and Pepe can only make a specific type of run on the pitch?? So we are going to witness a comedy duo next season??

    Abeg give it a rest. You must not win every argument.

    Guess we are in for some silly observations whenever we play next season from you..Oh look Auba missed that chance because he made an unnatural run

  47. Pierre

    Andy
    “Why specifically question Ceballos and not for example my other pick of Guendouzi? Answer is because Guen isn’t an alternative to Ozil. ”

    No, the answer is that Guendouzi has had many minutes on the pitch as has Xhaka, plus they have played with their team mates previously …. Ceballos has neither.

    Emery could be setting up Ceballos to fail if he starts him v Newcastle without giving him adequate game time to 1) build up his fitness and 2) build on field relationships with his team mates.

  48. Receding Hairline

    “Emery could be setting up Ceballos to fail if he starts him v Newcastle without giving him adequate game time to 1) build up his fitness and 2) build on field relationships with his team mates.”

    These things also happens in training

    Players don’t report for football matches straight from home. They train practically daily. You have a Ceballos obsession

  49. Valentin

    Receding,

    I clearly said that ManCity will win the league. Now your excuse if you misinterpreted my comment and that I should apologise for it!!!

    you are really deluded if you expect me to apologise after you deliberately misconstrue my comment to fit your narrative.

    I’ll apologise after you apologise for misinterpreting my comment.

    You said that Pepe never played CF, and there it is written by a specialist that under Bielsa Pepe played CF and kept some of the characteristics of the play.
    You just have been rumbled!

  50. Receding Hairline

    “You said that Pepe never played CF, and there it is written by a specialist that under Bielsa Pepe played CF and kept some of the characteristics of the play.”

    Where was this said.??

  51. fsaf

    Pierre is right about Ceballos. That’s what you do in the friendly/off season matches – introduce new players to the team so they get a bit more used to their new teammates, play on a new home stadium infront of new fans.

    I don’t understand why Ceballos wasn’t given more minutes either. There must be a proper reason, or the more logical one – Emery will not going to play him in the first 11 vs Newcastle and instead our manager is going to slowly introduce Ceballos to the side.

    We will know more about it after the game vs Barcelona.

  52. Receding Hairline

    “I clearly said that ManCity will win the league. Now your excuse if you misinterpreted my comment and that I should apologise for it!!!you are really deluded if you expect me to apologise after you deliberately misconstrue my comment to fit your narrative.I’ll apologise after you apologise for misinterpreting my comment.”

    I guess English is not your first language or you are just not very bright

    You used the adverb however.

    You said City will win the league. However You fear this might be Spurs year.

    That statement in English means that in as much as you expect City to win the league you fear this might e Spurs year to win it.

    Know the function of words before you use them in constructing a sentence

    Have a nice day

  53. andy1886

    Pepe hasn’t played a single minute with his new team mates but I expect we will see him at some point at Newcastle.

    So, back to the question I asked, who would you play, what formation and why? Don’t be shy….

  54. Valentin

    Real Madrid was clearly not at the same level of fitness than Arsenal when we meet them.
    It is possible that Ceballos was just kept in reserve for first assess his fitness level or work on it before the new season. The Angers game was more a run-out for the fringe players.

    I still think that both fsaf and Pierre are right. The Newcastle game is coming too soon for him. We are more likely to see Xhaka with Willock, unless Torreira came back fit and rating to go from his South America competition.
    Depending on how things develop, he may join the fray during the second half.

  55. Mysticleaves

    Re Tierney’s injury record, I think the 2016 and 18 injuries are linked. Hip stuff. That was recurring and that’s what he’s getting fixed this summer to avoid another one. I think I read that somewhere. He’s not really injury prone.

    So Pepe signed. I wanted to say he was my number 1 preference before I remembered it was Dembele. But yea, Pepe was a close second and a very massive capture for us going forward. He and Ceballos already improves our defence by about 20%. Add Willock’s all action game and the midfield choices will really be good when rotating.

    I am convinced Pepe will thrive in the pl as I was about Salah when Liverpool signed him. I remember he had an average to bad first 5 games or so

  56. Receding Hairline

    “Born in Mantes-la-Jolie, Île-de-France, Pépé stared his career originally playing as a Goalkeeper for local side Solitaire Paris Est until he was 14 years old”

    He might end up running into Leno at this rate seeing as he once played as a goal keeper

  57. Emiratesstroller

    There are rumours circulating according to Times that Arsenal have put up for sale three fringe players in the first team squad specifically Mkhitaryan, Elneny and Jenkinson.

    The list does not include Mustafi.

    Elneny and Jenkinson should not be too difficult to shift because they are not on mega buck wages and any sale will be reflected in transfer fee. If Arsenal
    can generate a transfer fee of £7,500,000 rising to £10,000,000 for Bielik who
    has never played in first team we should be able to generate similar fees for
    these two players at least.

    Mkhitaryan is far more problematic, because of his wage bill. Somehow I see
    Arsenal taking a hit on this player. The reality is that he did not cost us any
    money. The loss incurred was on Sanchez.

    So any transfer fee we can generate for Mkhitaryan is a bonus.

    Personally I would take £25-30 million for the three players and buy a player
    we need e.g. Tierney with the money we receive. Tierney’s wages will be less
    than half the wages of the three players combined.

    If you calculate also the funds we have received from Amaechi, Bielik, Ospina
    and third party sale that covers almost the first instalment on Pepe.

  58. Valentin

    Receding,

    You make yourself look ridiculous.
    Pepe never played professional football as a goalkeeper. Not even remotely comparable.

    However he spent a season at Lille as a CF. After his emerging season, last summer Lyon wanted to buy him for the striker position they ended up buying Moussa Dembele from Celtic.

  59. Mysticleaves

    “Looks like Lille was setup specifically to avoid players making the same run than Pepe. Two players making the same run is easier to defend than two players making opposite runs. (Who would have known). So looks like somebody (Aubameyang or Pepe) will have to learn to make run that are not natural to him. I wonder who disagree with that statement…”

    Val, drop this ok? And enjoy whatever you can of the season. Pepe will play RW but will move to LW and CF occasionally in game play, so would Auba. We aren’t setting up to pander to Pepe. ALL our attackers are star players. You are so concerned about these runs, why?

  60. Gentlebris

    “Was thinking of doing a charity climb of Mount Fuji or Killamanjaro at some point before 40”

    Some ambition. I don’t know if you can make room for CG. Could be head sorting therapy for him.

  61. Valentin

    Bielik may be easier to sell because club can see his potential. There is an uplift in getting him.

    Both Jenkinson and Elneny are known quantity and pretty much reached their peak. Elneny is unlikely to become the next Salah. Jenkinson is a decent right back for a third tier premiership club but on a too high salary.

  62. Receding Hairline

    “You make yourself look ridiculous.”

    You should know all about looking ridiculous Valentin

    Pepe now plays as a winger for club and country. He is not a center forward

    Again was indicates a past event

    You are actually damaging your own argument because what better two players can understand each other better than a winger who used to play CF and a CF who used to play winger…i mean this is an advantage and not a problem you have argued it is all along

  63. Freddie Ljungberg

    Oh, yeah, knew I forgot a sale, thanks ES.

    so that’s 22m in including the sale of Aemachi. Still without touching the first team squad.

    If we can move on a couple of the dross in the next couple of days there’s no reason we can’t go out and get a proper starting CB.

  64. Valentin

    Mystic,

    When you buy for a lot of money a player who thrive in specific play, it make sense to make sure that you create an environment to maximise his performance.

    It is not called pandering, it is just common sense. We have a slow build up, we need to change that in order to get him to be effective.

    I have used the same analogy before. What is the point of buying a Maserati if you intend to do off-roading?

  65. Graham62

    Valentin

    “So it looks like somebody( Auba or Pepe) will have to learn to make runs that are not natural to him”

    Wow, so much detail.

    Don’t forget these guys are professional footballers and will be working in training on many different options and formations. That’s their job.

    Auba, Lacazette and Pepe must be chomping at the bit to work on different plays. I’m excited just thinking about it.

    I understand your concerns but try not to get too worked up about things. Hopefully it’ll all pan out.

    To be honest, I’d be far more concerned about Mustafi doing his unnatural bits and bobs at the back, rather than worry too much about our natural athletes upfront.

    Wouldn’t you agree.

  66. Receding Hairline

    “When you buy for a lot of money a player who thrive in specific play, it make sense to make sure that you create an environment to maximise his performance.”

    For those who haven’t been following, this environment he speaks of is Sell Aubameyang buy Zaha. That singular move somehow transforms us to a counter attacking team. Nothing to do with tactics and the way the team is setup

  67. Emiratesstroller

    Valentin

    Arsenal have generated from sales so far:
    Ospina to Napoli £3,500,000
    Bennacer to Napoli [30% sell on fee] £4,500,000
    Amaechi £2,100,000
    Bielik £7,500,000 [rising to £10,000,000
    Asano £1,000,000
    ———————————————————————————————–
    Total: £18,600,000

    I would have thought we can sell both Jenkinson and Elneny for £15 million
    combined and Mkhitaryan for a modest £10 million.

  68. Receding Hairline

    “After his emerging season, last summer Lyon wanted to buy him for the striker position they ended up buying Moussa Dembele from Celtic.”

    Maybe they realized he wasn’t actually a striker then.

  69. Freddie Ljungberg

    The sale of Bielik was our highest sale since we sold Giroud in January of 2018, says a lot about the quality and the contract mess that Wenger and Gazidis left behind.

    Was always going to take time to unfuck that mess, but we’re finally looking like we’re about to do it.

  70. Receding Hairline

    Just occurred to me we have just under four days to make whatever moves we want to make with regards to incoming’s and some outgoing’s if we are selling within England.

    Squeaky bum time to fix that defense

    Dani Alves has joined Sao Paulo

  71. Valentin

    Stroller,

    Unless somebody makes us an offer we can’t refuse, I would keep Jenkinson for six more months. Enough time to cover Bellerin injury. That is not a high standard, but when focus he is a better right back than AMN.

    In six months time, Jenkinson will also realise that his prospect are not as rosy as he think (Wellbeck is now learning that harsh reality) and may accept more readily to move on.

  72. Gentlebris

    ‘So Pepe signed. I wanted to say he was my number 1 preference before I remembered it was Dembele. But yea, Pepe was a close second’

    I would spin it around, I would say Dembele is a close second to Pépé in 2019.

  73. Bob N16

    Agree Graham…

    What with players coming back from injury (Bellerin, Holding), late returners ( Torreira) and new signings, it may well be the start of October when we’ll see our strongest 11. Hope Emery has the wherewithal to get some decent results up until then. Depending on whether we sign Tiernay and a CB, that’ll be around seven players who won’t be begin the season starting ( I’m including Pépé and Ceballos in that number).

  74. Valentin

    STROLLER,

    there were reports a few month that Zenith was interested and he was willing to go. Most Italian clubs have no money. Nobody seems to be interested in him in Germany and no clubs in France (bar PSG) could afford his salary, so Russia and the Middle East (China is now closed) seems to be the only possibility to exfiltrate him out of Arsenal.

  75. Emiratesstroller

    Valentin

    You may have a point.

    Nevertheless we have RB options in Maitland-Niles and Chambers. So there is
    little point in keeping Jenkinson as well. We will get no transfer fee for him in
    January as his contract expires in June.

  76. Uwot?

    Old red nose.Always bought players with an edge to them.Either sneaky or downright physical.Yhe type of players like or loathe them,youd want in the trenches.wenger initially had these “ qualities” in his earlier sides but then went for midgets & spineless footballers.hence the mess we have today….

  77. Un na naai

    Freddie

    So what? You’re expecting every sale to exceed £20m?

    He made over £100m from Ox Theo Giroud coq and paulista

    There were still assets in the team but they chose to let most of them walk for free

    Mustafi is about to go for €30m or so

    Wind it in

  78. Valentin

    Bob,

    AMN is a better player than Jenkinson, but Jenkinson is a better right back.
    AMN because he is a better athlete recover better from his bad positioning, but Jenkinson is less often caught out.

  79. Receding Hairline

    “When I imagine receding hairline I picture Bernard from Westworld”

    Jeffery Wright

    Lol

    Not even close, unless of course if you are solely focused on the hairline. I am way younger too

  80. Gentlebris

    ‘ If Arsenal
    can generate a transfer fee of £7,500,000 rising to £10,000,000 for Bielik who
    has never played in first team we should be able to generate similar fees for these two players at least.’

    A player must first generate interest from other clubs before his club can generate good money for him….. demand vs supply.

    Bielik was in demand, first team or no first team, one can’t say same for the other guys.

  81. Mysticleaves

    Val, he’s a star signing but he’s not coming to West ham. He’s coming to Arsenal. Let’s hope they all work out. They might make same runs sometimes but they will make lot of different runs and hopefully run the opposition defence ragged.

    Gentle, Dembele will always be my number 1 winger choice until he can’t perform anymore. Even with Pepe, I would still want Dembele.

    Andy, when all are fit and we sign a new CB and Tierney

    Leno
    Bellerin new CB Sok Kolasinac/Tierney
    Torr Ceballos
    Ozil
    PAL

  82. Emiratesstroller

    Valentin

    The benefit of Jenkinson is minimal and leaving aside Maitland-Niles as I have
    pointed out you can play at RB Chambers who is a better defender than both these players.

    This season there will be minimum requirement for a wing back on right side
    of pitch with arrival of Pepe as well as Martinelli and Nelson who are all specialist wingers.

  83. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    You can’t help being a prick can you?

    In this market we are the only club that can’t take advantage because all our players that we want to shift are overpaid and underperforming big time, you don’t see that as a problem?

    Also Bielik went for 10m, not 20m.

    In 18 months that’s our highest fee, that’s actually pathetic.

    You still don’t understand that we had very little leverage with players like Welbeck and Ramsey that were down to their last year, and I don’t think you ever will, you’re just too dumb.

  84. Bob N16

    Agree to disagree Valentin, Jenko is not that great defensively and is always worried about giving the ball away so his contributions with the ball are negligible.

  85. Valentin

    When Jenkinson played at WestHam, he looked decent. If he is tasked only to defend and not galloping forward, Jenkinson can be a useful right back.

    The problem is that nowadays we expect our right back to be good defender and good attacker. Some can’t do it. In view of the rest of our defense, I would rather we play somebody who can defend and instruct him to concentrate on the defensive aspect of the game rather than going forward.

  86. Freddie Ljungberg

    I would wait until Mustafi actually gets sold before proclaiming that as a victory, I can’t see him going for anything close to €30m, just because that is what’s reported that we want doesn’t mean that’s what we’ll get. Pretty basic stuff really.

  87. Emiratesstroller

    Mysticleaves

    If that is case Arsenal have probably included sell on clause as they did with Bennacer.

  88. Valentin

    Bob,

    I find that AMN take a lot more risk than Jenkinson. Jenkinson knows his limitation and does not try fancy flicks. Where AMN lose a lot of good will at the Emirates is when he lackadaisically lose possession in dangerous positions.

  89. Receding Hairline

    “Who wants to take a bet that Bielik comes back to the PL for 25/30m next summer?”

    I will take that bet Mystic

    The rating this kid has for one good season in league one is astonishing. I mean why did he not move to a premier league team now for the 10m??? weren’t they all watching him too??

  90. Champagne charlie

    “Anyone who cannot apologize when they get things wrong is not worthy of an interaction. You called me a liar and when i proved you were the one who worded your post wrongly you acted like you never saw it“

    Pot, kettle.

    What about when you lied about numerous things I’ve said, had them posted, had your lies exposed, then seen yourself vanish and act like it never happened.

    Forget Shrek, living ignorantly in his swamp, you’re more Harry Potter.