Positives to be had against Madrid

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Well, Arsenal didn’t disgrace themselves in a fun game against the MIGHTY Real Madrid.

We more than held our own against Zidane’s team of champions, in fact, it’s hard to say that we didn’t dominate them at times.

Unai Emery looked like he really wanted it… the scariest PE teacher this side of the Atlantic last night. It looked like he really needed to show the world, the fans, and the press that he can cut it against big teams and he wants a seat at the big boys table.

Once again, we rolled with players that really shouldn’t be anywhere near the tour, but hey, Bale landed some game time, so I guess everyone is out here shop windowing players they want to move on.

I thought there were some real positives. Firstly, we went two goals up and dominated from the start. Arsenal looked like they’d adapted to the heat more so than Madrid. We pressed well, even Ozil was getting involved in the dirty work. It is true, blondes really do have more fun.

How about Carl Jenks smashing into Marcelo? Take that you ‘I’m too good to play with Carl’ mug.

The second half was more interesting for me because we brought Saka, Eddie and Reiss into the game. They were a real menace. The pace and athleticism they gave our forward line was transformative, the shame of it was that it was meshed in with youthful bad decision making. They were all fluffing their lines like shy teenagers attempting to ask the head cheerleader to the dance.

It was a touch embarrassing to see us take the ball to the corner last minute, but at least the players are taking the preseason seriously.

Madrid won on penalties, but who cares, really?

So what have we learned…?

Things are getting desperate now. We may or may not have signed Ceballos. We’re no nearer on a powerful winger. We seem further away on a left-back than ever before. Emery is trying to promote an exciting future on the pitch, but it’s with kids, not mature stars.

The four players he thought he was landing haven’t materialised, and we’re very close to the start of the season.

I mean, I’d rather that than attempt another season with a bunch of players that are unlikely to find the next level for us… at least it’ll be exciting and committed.

We’ll see though, plenty of time until the window shuts… sort of.

See you in the comments! x

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WengerEagle

CA Have we not dispelled with the 45m budget myth at this stage? How can that be the case when in theory we could have signed Zaha alone for 40m if Palace didn’t give a fuck about the fee. You had people on here bleating on about us having worse players than Leicester and Wolves after they both smashed us in the run-in, stance was very much that it was down to the players and that we have glaring gaps in the side that need to be rectified in the summer and it looks now like only half of the… Read more »

Dissenter

Call me crazy but I will take a competent center back over Zaha this summer if it turns out that we have money for one top player,
Promote Nelson/Saka to that role and let them fight it out.

Marc

WE

“United will find a panic sell in January much harder than this summer. Requires DDG to be a malignant cunt this scenario mind.”

This is the ManU that sabotaged his move to Madrid some years ago when he really wanted to go.

Valentin

Dissenter,

The only time I have seen you using those disclaimers was when you went into a fight with the flat-earther Marko who as usual was using any minute details to try to score points at your expense.

How would anybody know exactly how much Arsenal has bid for Zaha or Tierney? Via Media.

I remember a while ago, I was scolded for not citing my source, then for citing my source, and now for not including a disclaimer.

WengerEagle

That quote sounds like its been pulled out of Ballague’s hairy arse.

Getafe haven’t been relegated in recent years.

WengerEagle

Was the fuck up not on Real’s end Marc?

Valentin

Dissenter,

This is exactly what I have been saying.
We need a CB and a dominant defensive central midfielder.
If we really are that skint, we can always promote Nelson, Saka, Nkethia for the winger/inside forward position.

Skinnywill

“So nothing’s changed over the last 12 years then” I disagree. Wenger refused to sign players like Higuaín, Hazard et al when the fee was more than thought they were worth but at that time we could have actually afforded to buy them. He then changed tack and paid over the odds for Mustafi & Xhaka. We have also overpaid certain players and not paid other players enough. Therefore it all goes down to judgement on players, some are worth breaking the bank on and some are not and how successful we will be depends on Raul, Edu and Emery’s… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

WE ‘Have we not dispelled with the 45m budget myth at this stage? How can that be the case when in theory we could have signed Zaha alone for 40m if Palace didn’t give a fuck about the fee.’ Not really because wasn’t the whole point was we wanted to pay in something stupid like 8 installments or something daft. Hence all the shit about Palace laughing at us. So we would have signed him for a cost of £5 Million this summer if it was 8 equal parts, for example. ‘We binned Walcott, Giroud, Coquelin, Gibbs, Gabriel Paulista, Oxlade… Read more »

Dissenter

Wenger Eagle, Walcott, Giroud, Coquelin, Gibbs, Gabriel Paulista, Oxlade Chamberlain, Szczesny were not unsellable dross. There were the cream of the shite. Gibbs – England international Walcott – England international that an up and coming club will take a chance on Giroud – 12-16 league goals/ season veteran French international striker that had won the FIFA Puskas award. Gabriel Paulista – he had done well in La liga pre-Arsenal and was still young Oxlade- why do you even have him on the list. There was never going to be a problem selling Oxlade. Coquelin- Coquelin was always going to be… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

‘Admittedly we made the mistake of increasing Xhaka and Elneny’s salaries last summer.’

Agreed.

Don’t understand that at all.

I think perhaps Xhaka is valued as a possession player in a team that lacks a lot of possession ability.

Ishola70

WengerEagle
“That quote sounds like its been pulled out of Ballague’s hairy arse. Getafe haven’t been relegated in recent years.”

Ehhh. It happened man. I’m telling ya.

2015/16 season. Betis 2 Getafe 1 15 May 2016

Dissenter

Valentin
I’m not sure you realize it.
It may be your writing style but it comes across as of you’re speaking from the authority of having inside information.
I’ve written this many times; your points about the need to aggressively embrace some of our academy material has resonated and doesn’t seem as crazy as it once did.
I just wish our academy was producing relatively good defensive talent to bench the likes of Mustafi.

Dissenter

Ishola
What will you do the day Xhaka leaves Arsenal?
You will be free of the Xhaka yoke soon. The captains of Arsenal are the first out of the door

Cesc Appeal

Amaechi is apparently close to a permanent Bundesliga move

Valentin

Dissenter,

Arsenal academy have not produced a decent CB of Premiership quality since the beginning of the Premiership.
The closest to premiership quality are Justin Hoyte and Kyle Bartley. And neither achieved anything of note in their career. Matthew Upson was bought.

It is shocking and show a very big deficiency in our training method as statistically we should have had at least one regular premiership centre back.
Same thing with defensive central midfielder. Coquelin was really bought from Lorient.

Batistuta

Can’t keep coming up with excuses as to why on the 24th of July, there has been nothing done, I’m sure those in charge have known about our budget for the summer for a while so why are we here at this stage about to maybe sign a CB that won’t play this season, a loanee and the bulk of players who have cost us still here? How long are we going to keep harping on about what Gazidis and Wenger did or didn’t do before they left? This is year 2 of this new project and would only be… Read more »

Dissenter

Batistuta
“Anyone who’s seen any kinda change after 2 years of Raul and co should kindly point me to it.”

Raul is a hired hand that unlike Wenger, fans don’t owe any allegiance.
Rest assure he will be gone by December if he doesn’t deliver this summer. He has a few days to do his job or fu*k off.

Batistuta

Dissenter

Fired by same folk who took an eternity to fire Wenger and Gazidis? You’d forgive me if i don’t place that much faith in the Kroenkes to do what’s right for Arsenal football club

Valentin

If Bielik and Amaechi leaves for low fee that would be the result of incompetent management.
Properly managed they would either still be part of Arsenal setup or have signed longer term contract so we would be entitled to bigger compensation.

According to reports (😜), Amaechi took the hump after he was integrated into the Europa League final and invited some family member just to be told before the game that his promised place on the bench was given to a third goalkeeper.

If he end up at Bayern that would be the ultimate kick in the teeth.

terraloon

Koscielny did not agree sign any deal in January. His last contract is three years ago, hence he can invoke the Webster clause.

The wording should be
Koscielny did not agree sign any deal in January. His last contract is three years ago, hence he COULD HAVE INVOKED the Webster clause.

There is a very narrow window just after the last game of the season allowing a player to in effect give notice.
On the face of it also didn’t advise Arsenal he wanted to leave on a Webster so that door of opportunity has past by.

Dissenter

Batistuta
Wenger was different. One can easily see why it tool long to fire Wenger since he is proper club legelnd. The bottom had to fall out before they took action.
Gazidis on the other hand was a snake oil merchant that just hid under Wenger’s skirts whilst launching grandiose projects to hoodwink bloggers like Pedro.
The fans are united on some issues now. They won’t let give Raul the Wenger pasthis pass.

Valentin

Teraloon,

That’s exactly what one of my friend a lawyer told me.
However Another lawyer told me that there has been another precedent and that as long as the transfer window is open if the player was in dispute or negotiation prior to the window, then he can still invoke it. Koscielny would fall into that category.

I am not a lawyer, so I have no idea which one is right.

Ishola70

Dissenter
“What will you do the day Xhaka leaves Arsenal?
You will be free of the Xhaka yoke soon. The captains of Arsenal are the first out of the door”

Weren’t you implying that he could improve if made captain the other day?

We’re back in goat with back wheels territory that Pedro alluded to the other day.

Xhaka with wooden wheels applied.

Dissenter

Emery is a really interesting character
It turns out that he was trying to rescind the red card that Nacho got because he wanted to play against 11 men. The referee declined of course.
Just shows that the managers don’t take these games seriously.

Dissenter

Ishola
Those comments you’re alluding to were just written in jest. Some of us are clutching unto every iota of positivism.

Ishola70

Dissenter

Xhaka played a great pass from deep to Nketiah in the match to put him clean through on goal.

But these plays don’t matter because he erases them with errors in the same match.

He is just like Mustafi.

Capable of good plays but a ticking time bomb in every other match.

Just not wanted or needed these type of players because anything good they may do is undone.

WengerEagle

CA No the 40m fee would have been up front, we were laughed out of the building because they just sold their young RB in Bissaka to United for 10m more than we were offering for their undisputed best player. Re our players, barring Ozil and possibly Miki I don’t think that any of them are unable to be sold. 100k today isn’t like it was a couple of years ago either. Wages are sky-rocketing across the board in the PL, I’m pretty sure Palace are paying Benteke 120k and Meyer 125k. Javier Hernandez is on 140k at West Ham… Read more »

WengerEagle

Ishola

Right you are mate I got them mixed up with Espanyol.

Don’t have a problem with what he said tbh, I’m sure the lad he said it to cunted him off prior and it’s big boy shit at that level.

WengerEagle

‘Again, i don’t think if Emery said to certain players they were not part of his plans that they’d stick around that much and the whole can’t find a buyer for our crap players thing is also another excuse that’s been exhausted at this point.’

Agree, not every player is in the same boat as Ozil who is an exceptional case because he’s literally one of the best paid players on the planet.

Batistuta

Weagle That’s just the thing, there’s been no semblance of change whatsoever especially this summer where the new team have had a full year to access what they had, what they needed and who they didn’t . Surely they didn’t put all their eggs in the Europa league final basket, surely there must have been a plan B in case we lost that champions league money. It’s all slow and ponderous and amateur hour at Arsenal if you ask me. I mean even the Ceballos deal, how long does it take to do those? Is Unai Emery actually sane enough… Read more »

WengerEagle

‘They won’t let give Raul the Wenger pasthis pass.’

See you say this but people will defend him and put the blame on Kroenke because he only supposedly [I’m calling bollocks] has 45m to work with. And they’ll defend the lack of initiative towards moving players on because of the contracts that they are on and a supposed lack of motivation to leave for pastures new even though the latter part is purely guesswork and it’s going off the assumption that they are all mercenaries and don’t care for playing on a weekly basis.

Marc

“That’s exactly what one of my friend a lawyer told me. However Another lawyer told me that there has been another precedent and that as long as the transfer window is open if the player was in dispute or negotiation prior to the window, then he can still invoke it. Koscielny would fall into that category. I am not a lawyer, so I have no idea which one is right.” Valentin is still being a pussy / cheese eating surrender monkey. If Kos offered the club £4,68 million to tear up his contract they’d accept – he won’t he wants… Read more »

WengerEagle

Yeah Bati, and I agree you have a shortlist and move on with other options if you can’t afford a player. Zaha isn’t going to be sold for less than a fee closer to 80m than 40m so we’re wasting our time coming back with incrementally increased bids on staggered payment schemes. He’s a very decent player but I’ll be fucked if they aren’t a multitude of alternative players that we could sign in his place for a more reasonable amount. Even if we did spend 60m on a winger, when we’re playing Sokratis+Holding as our CB pairing and have… Read more »

Valentin

Marc, The mask is slipping. Xenophobic insult started to be spewed by the ignorant. You are the one who want to sell Koscielny for 4 millions after the English transfer window is closed to teach him a lesson depriving the club of the possibility to replace him. The classic example of somebody who wants to look tough on internet, but has not a clue on how to manage a business or department. I noticed that you did not answered my question on what you do if you have no more any buyer after you have rejected them all. Afraid to… Read more »

Redtruth

You know you’re clutching at straws when you start praising Arsenal in a friendly game.

Marc

Valentin

I’ve been baiting you for giggles all afternoon – it just took you hours to realise. I have no issue with the French – you didn’t invent Gazpacho but I do cook a great Coq au Vin and Beef Bourguignon. It will however always be Beef Wellington not Boeuf en Croute – which I also do a good version of when feeling extravagant.

On football you are so timid it’s a joke and yes I do have a problem with people who are to timid. Fucking grow a pair.

Marc

Red

It’s almost as bad as slagging off a second half performance in the same match you lost on pens.

karim

Marc

Well, the French may have an issue with you though.
You must be scared to death, aren’t ya ?

karim

As meaningless as it may have been, I rather liked what I saw last night
( highlights ) given our starting lineup.
Even Ozil looked half decent..

Marc

karim

No I have a cunning plan – I’ll just surrender at the first sign of trouble!

Marc

karim

“Even Ozil looked half decent..”

Time to lay off the sauce!

karim

Has the Ceballos loan been impacted by Asensio’s injury after all ?
Still nothing official, which is kind of worrying…

karim

Marc

I said I just watched the highlights, it’s like those YouTube vids where everyone looks good you know..

Marc

karim

Well according to all of the informed sources the answer is yes and no.

Make of that what you will!

karim

Marc

Brilliant !
Where did you learn that strategy from ?

Marc

karim

It’s not a strategy it’s a basic acceptance that the media are completely full of shit,

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Ain’t this knew fella on loan bit leaning right of centre ?

karim

Marc

Most of them yeah.
I was answering a previous post of yours by the way.
Nevermind.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal
Marc

RSPC

Are you telling me he’s a lefty?

Freddie Ljungberg

The deal could be off, Ceballos told Raul he’s a dickless wonder and he also said he wanted to smash Ozil, apparently he’s really into grannies. Understandable mistake but I hope we’re still doing the deal.

Freddie Ljungberg

Rspc

Completely misleading title and I hop it’s far from what will happen.

When asked how he will set up the defense he just mentioned available players.
There was no mention of a new left back either and we know we’ve been chasing Tierney for weeks.

Marc

karim

I think we’re having a time zone issue!

TR7

I have been saying all along Emery and Raul are incompetent frauds. This TW totally showing up Raul for what he is. Of course the usual suspects setting up the stage to blame everything on Wenger and Gazidis. They will probably be blaming the duo even 5 years down the line for our misfortune.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Marc with a c

No a bit like patriot …

Could be bad news if he is a bit old fashion views.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Tr

Right on

No one sold.

No one of purpose brought .

Yoot given a chance which is good.

Shocking windows

Spanish bombs… keeping the clash vibe going ,

Marc

RSPC

Was fucking about!

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Freddie

May be dud

But fact is we are leaving it late to sell… or buy ,
Crystal we are not selling anyone which is terrible.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Marc with a c

He’s bad news I reckon…

Dissenter

Atletico Madrid are really behaving like a club with giant bollocks.
They aren’t holding any punches in going after Barca. I’m sure they have evidence that Greizmann signed a pre-contract in the spring.
About time clubs started challenging the Barca-Real hegemony in Spain.

Freddie Ljungberg

So Leipzig wants ESR on loan again, why oh why aren’t we asking them for a good deal on one of their CBs in return? Would set us up for the next decade in central defense if we had Upemecano/Konate – Holding – Saliba

imagine that, not having to scramble around for some 2nd grade CB every other year. Pipe dream.

Dissenter

Why isn’t anyone going after Alderweireld?

Marc

Dissenter

His buy out clause expires on the 27th (I think – it’s there or there abouts) Levy has already started the press line of “we’ll demand £40 million” clubs are waiting for it to come and go. He’ll go for less.

Dissenter

TR7 “I have been saying all along Emery and Raul are incompetent frauds. This TW totally showing up Raul for what he is. Of course the usual suspects setting up the stage to blame everything on Wenger and Gazidis. They will probably be blaming the duo even 5 years down the line for our misfortune Your Emery hatred is hampering your field of vision. The manager does not do the transfers in our system. He is not involved in the process of negotiations. That’s why we moved away from Wenger. The manager is probably just as frustrated as you because… Read more »

Dissenter

Marc
Spuds are quietly moving out these 29 year old,players like Tripper and now Rose.
We know why though, neither earns above 60-65k weekly, enough to make them super rich without taking away their hunger.

Imagine if we were trying to sell Bellerin with his 100-120k weekly wage.
Watch as people come here and start lamenting about us not being able to sell
while telling us to forget about the past.

Marc

Just to make it clear.

Any transfers in or lack of are down to Sanllehi – he has a limited budget so no he won’t spend £150 million. If we don’t spend the often quoted £45 million he’ll look beyond incompetent.

Transfers out are a little more complicated. Selling a poor player who’s on top wages is not easy. So many on here talk about how easy it is but couldn’t close a door let alone a deal.

I’ll judge Sanllehi on the 8th.

Marc

Dissenter

People forget Walker left the Spud’s tripled his wages and won the league in his first season.

Elneny and Jenkinson are on similar money to him before he left. Mustafi is on two thirds of what he’s earning now, Miki is on £50k a week more and Ozil earns circa £200k a week more.

Come on genius sales people close a few deals with that shit.

HillWood

Are the club still serious about signing the Jock Crock
Even though he is currently ……. crocked

Ishola70

TR7
“I have been saying all along Emery and Raul are incompetent frauds. This TW totally showing up Raul for what he is. Of course the usual suspects setting up the stage to blame everything on Wenger and Gazidis.”

Why not blame Gazidis.

He appointed both of them.

TR7

Dissenter ‘We know why though, neither earns above 60-65k weekly, enough to make them super rich without taking away their hunger.’ While you might think you have a point there but this banal tripe about exorbitant wages of our players is overplayed too much. How much does Jenkinson earn ? Why has he not been moved on ? What wages is Mustafi on ? 90K per week ? Difference between earnings of a player on 70K per week and a player on 90K per week is 3 million over a period of 3 years / 4 million over 4 years.… Read more »

Marc

Ishola

TR7 only slags off current employees.

Thomas

You really wonder what the people responsible for transfers have done all summer. No signings , no player sales. What a bunch of useless amateurs. Joke of a club.

Marc

“Difference between earnings of a player on 70K per week and a player on 90K per week is 3 million over a period of 3 years / 4 million over 4 years. That’s not a huge amount for most clubs and even if it is ,”

I’d love to do a yearly review with you – a £20,000 raise is only £200,000 over 10 years boss.

Marc

TR7

Give me a scenario where you can make Jenkinson leave?

TR7

Marc

‘Come on genius sales people close a few deals with that shit.’

Yeah selling and buying players in a transfer window ? Never happened before. I wonder why have we hired so many guys on good wages to do the onerous task of closing transfer deals when it is as difficult now as it was ever before.

WengerEagle

In the world of football that’s peanuts though Marc if it’s the difference between being saddled with a player or not.

Did we not have to pay off AW about 8 million to get rid of him a year early? This is the club that even in the height of our austerity post-stadium move was paying Chamakh, Bendtner and Park a combined 170k a week to do precisely fuck all.

salpardisenyc
WengerEagle

So is there just a defeatist attitude now that we’re simply fucked until all of these player’s contracts run down? Lol and how would our situation improve at all when they walk out the door for nothing exactly?

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Club is playing politics of 10 years ago.

We’ve been sussed, bombed out in efforts to buy, ignited by people we are trying to sell players to.

How can China be interested in bale but not ozil..

Only players sold ospina.

Ffs even welbeck can’t get a gig .

Our squad alert from youth is so ill thought off that we have the highest wage bill, with least interest in.

Club sucks.

No good vibes

TR7

Ishola Gazidis was moved on for his incompetence. What’s the point now in bleating about him ? We weren’t slating Dein for hiring Wenger, were we when things started going awry for him ? Dissenter ‘I’d love to do a yearly review with you – a £20,000 raise is only £200,000 over 10 years boss.’ Well for.someone.who has been following football for ages I didn’t expect you to draw parallels between the crazy world of football transfers and real life salary negotiations. If you want to argue £3-4M over 4 years is a massive sum for football clubs then I… Read more »

Marc

TR7

Yeah yeah now answer the question how would you make Jenkinson leave?

Freddie Ljungberg

Jenkinson is on 45k a week and is basically a championship or lower level of player, not easy to shift players like that, although I hope the talks of him moving for 5m is true it sounds too good to be true. Mustafi on 90k is probably on at least 40k more than he should be and there are many CB available that are younger and cheaper than him with a lower salary for “lesser” teams that doesn’t want to introduce a clown into their backline. That’s the theme with a lot of the players we want to shift. I… Read more »

Ishola70

TR7
“Gazidis was moved on for his incompetence. What’s the point now in bleating about him ? We weren’t slating Dein for hiring Wenger, were we when things started going awry for him ?”

Yeah but Gazidis has only just recently moved on really in real terms. A year away is nothing and there is no question he was involved in the hiring of Emery and Raul so his wrong doings at the club still resonant.

In regards comparison to Dein well at least Wenger brought good times to the club once upon a time.

Marc

TR7 Fuck me “Well for.someone.who has been following football for ages I didn’t expect you to draw parallels between the crazy world of football transfers and real life salary negotiations. If you want to argue £3-4M over 4 years is a massive sum for football clubs then I have nothing to say.” You were advocating knocking that off there transfer fee a few comments ago? A player like Mustafi isn’t £20,000 a week, £1.04 million a year over 3 – 4 years over paid. He’s £60,000 a week, £3.12 million a year over 3 – 4 years over paid. Make… Read more »

Dissenter

Wenger eagle
If we had to pay off one player to leave…then it’s all part of business
However if we had to pay off 5-6 players to leave…c’mon, what are you left with?

Dissenter

Truth is that the Wenger-withdrawal isn’t going to be easy nor expedited.
It will be long and agonizing unless we have money to throw at it. Some of out useless duds have to wind their contracts down to one yer when uit will be easier to pay them to fu*ck off.

If you’re going to blame anyone, blame Raul.
Emery is not involved with contracts or transfers beyond the input any manager
ought to have in approving the targets.

TR7

Marc

We bought Jenkinson for £ 0.9 million. Really not difficult to offload him for £1M. We would still be making a profit on him. Don’t tell me some of the promoted teams or the teams in lower half of EPL table have better back up RBs than Jenko.

Marc

Dissenter

One of those players is on £350,000 a week, another is on £200,000 a week, another is on £100,000 a week, next £55,000 a week and then the last is on £45,000 a week.

Oh it’s so easy! Come on TR7 tell me how it’s done?

Batistuta

Question is how do other clubs with players also on high wages move them on but Arsenal can’t seem to do same huh? Are we really making excuses for someone like Jenkinson and El Neny still being here if not utter incompetence from folks paid to do so

Graham62

TR7

Re: 21:28 post.

I will be blaming them both for years to come mainly because their incompetence has cost the club massively when it comes to not only bringing in new players but also offloading those that are surplus to requirements.

If you can’t see that, you must be blind.

Marc

TR7

Are you a retard? It’s not what someone will pay for him it’s what they’ll pay him in salary. He’s on £45k a week and can leave on a free in a years time and still get your deal – why would he take a massive pay cut now?

Marc

Bati

Which players on high wages?

Dissenter

TR7 “Well for.someone.who has been following football for ages I didn’t expect you to draw parallels between the crazy world of football transfers and real life salary negotiations. If you want to argue £3-4M over 4 years is a massive sum for football clubs then I have nothing to say.” That’s exactly why we are in deep shite Wenger believed the same, so to attain harmony he gave out salaries 3-4 million more than necessary … to every player on the team, hence our inflated budget. By the way that will equate to about 45 million yearly, enough to but… Read more »

WengerEagle

Dissenter

So your solution is to keep them at the club and drain us by half a million odd quid a week while contributing very little to nothing to the cause? And have them walk out the door at the end of their contract for nothing [which is years away].

How can you defend offering Xhaka a new contract as well?

Graham62

Batistuta

I think it all boils down to one simple fact.

Both Jenkinson and Elneny are not very good.

TR7

Marc ‘A player like Mustafi isn’t £20,000 a week, £1.04 million a year over 3 – 4 years over paid. He’s £60,000 a week, £3.12 million a year over 3 – 4 years over paid’ Dissenter sort of suggested players like Mustafi are overpaid £20000 a week. If he were on £70K/week instead of £90k/week, it would be easier to move him. A diff of £20000 per week equates to £4M over 4 years. Better to take a hit of £4M one time than to continue paying Mustafi £90K per week and see him drag us further down the league… Read more »

Marc

Graham

Your are half way there.

“Both Jenkinson and Elneny are not very good.”

The other half is

“Both on a lot of money”

Batistuta

So Graham what do we do?

Keep them till their contracts run out and watch them leave on a free? Not a smart business model though is it?

Marc

City found a way to do away with Mangala…. Chelsea found a way with Bakayoko whom I’m sure wouldn’t be there if they didn’t have the transfer ban

WengerEagle

‘Both Jenkinson and Elneny are not very good.’

They could easily find a home for Elneny, while shite for a aspiring top 4 PL club he’d be decent at a lower level in the PL or abroad.

Jenkinson would be trickier because it’s no secret that he’s absolutely dire even at a lower level.