Ultimate endgame: Stan sells. But how?

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Great to see Arsenal fans responding so well the letter yesterday.

Could lead to nothing, or it could be the first step on the path to real fan action. You know, like sending a severed horse head to Josh wrapped in an LA Rams shirt.

Too far?

Sad reality for us is that the exec leadership team only answer to one man, and if that man doesn’t want to make greatness happen, we’re fucked.

The only true way of making things hard for Stan K and his trustafarian man baby is to make a statement in the stadium.

Literally, don’t show up.

I think the empty stands worried the club and those sun-bleached red seats on TV never look good. The only way to make things really unappealing for Stan is to starve the club of fans in the ground. You have to hurt a money many where it actually stings… the wallet.

The way to real change is to convince Stan that selling the club is more financially viable than pumping a few million quid in here and there.

Ultimately, I don’t really understand the point of having a foreign club in the portfolio if you’re actively tanking it into the ground. We’re must be annoying, the cost of bringing us back to the top is getting higher and higher as each season passes, and to truly make it happen, there needs to be a concentrated effort.

I’m not sure Stan has the stomach for that.

Even if we move back to the top, does it really impact their LA life? Doubtful. Not sure people in their circles give a rats backside about how his English club is doing.

We know that £2b wasn’t enough for Stan. He’s already rejected a mega bid. But everyone has a price. There’s a threshold for every owner. A cost vs aggravation equation. One that looks to be getting the better of Roman Abramovich of late. The Russian has no love from the people, no love from the government, and things are so crazy, even he’s starting to look like a pauper.

… however, slate Roman all you like, he loved the football. Joy factored in his passion.

It doesn’t factor into Stan’s. Most billionaires would stop doing something when it became arduous or unsatisfying… or, you know, a bit embarrassing. The sticking point is that Arsenal was never a plaything for him, it was just an asset that made good returns (in a property sense). The only difference now is that the top four supremacy we once boasted has disappeared. How much more valuable can the club get without success?

I read an interesting quote about someone in politics.

‘If you have no values, how can you be judged?’

It’s similar in sport.

‘If you don’t care about winning, how can you ever feel the burn of failure?’

Back to the takeover… where does the money come from?

We’re a real jewel, a very attractive sleeping giant, instant credibility if we were purchased. But are the Arab countries getting a bit bored of throwing so much money at a problem that even PSG levels of investment can’t crack the big trophies?

Or does the fame, credibility and power our postcode offers investors still make us a prize worth chasing?

You still have to give reason for someone to sell.

Arsenal fans are a comfortable bunch. We’re mostly well off, we mostly don’t like conflict, and the idea of spending your Sunday protesting something that is ‘supposed’ to give you joy seems a little offensive to most.

You also don’t want to be told what to do by some loudmouth behind a keyboard or camera. You don’t want your fandom to be judged by whether you go or not. I’m not a season ticket holder at the minute, but when I was, I detested armchair folk telling me how to support.

‘Go fuck yourself’ I thought. I put my money down. I stand in the cold watching Theo Walcott fall on his arse all day. I’ll support how I want. It’s very, very hard to take a rationale view to football, especially if you’ve spent money on it.

… but perversely, if you see your season ticket as a long term investment, the way to get the most value from it is to miss 5 games in unison with 30,000 other fans when things inevitably go sour this season.

The property equivalent is a little bit like owning an old property in London they won’t let you build on because it’s listed. Do you sit on it, because there’s sentimentality and rules in place, or do you burn it down totally by accident?

There aren’t many that take the latter option, but those that take the former are richer than you.

Do you want to be football rich? Well, you know the answer (don’t go. Please don’t try and start a fire)

My campaign would be:

#DontSitOnItSellIt

Needs some work for sure.

Let me know what YOU think in the comments.

P.S. I was flying through the preseason game, but excellent to see Martinelli and Saka score! Well played to Olayinka as well. WINNING START. x

 

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Moray

“Unai Emery: Arsenal targeting ‘very big, very expensive’ signings”…for which we are offering 20% of the asking price.

Un na naai

Captain granit
He’s a hero

CG

NUFC Supporters Group Statement

“””Steve Bruce is an unambitious appointment by an unambitious owner.”””

Unai Emery is an unambitious appointment by an unambitious owner

Mike Ashley and Stan Kroenke
Two peas in The Same Pod

Joint Boycott First Game of the Season

Sign the Petition

Twice or Thrice will Suffice!

Henry Root

As one of the twats who actually go to games I regret the conflict between feeling the compulsion to follow my team as I have for sixty years and my disapproval of the current regime. But Arsenal is in my blood and like many fans I would support the team whoever plays for them and whoever owns them. It doesn’t mean I don’t dislike the Kroenke regime intensely . Frankly given some of the comments on here and the dislike fir the club I’m at a loss to know why some posters follow the blog and comments so closely .… Read more »

HighburyLegend

“They are not what I recognise as Arsenal fans .”
The fans on Le Grove all have a different way to react…

So you think that, because they behave like a*holes, they don’t suffer to see the actual state of their beloved club ??

Leedsgunner

So we’re targeting “very big, very expensive players” now are we?

Did anyone ask him expensive in which currency?

Dissenter

I think the Kroenke’s knowmthey fuc*ed up by leaving Wenger on for so long.
I read Kroenke specifically talk about putting in a ‘more modern structure’ which was a tacit way of acknowledging the moribund management style of Wenger.
The past is the past. There clearly been a generational transfer of the club- Kroenke Sr has passed it to Kroenke Jr.
The Kroenkes are now listening. They need to show that by loosening the purse strings this summer. They need to make a statement.

HighburyLegend

“Crystal Palace manager Roy Hodgson has said that Arsenal are yet to make a bid “anywhere near Wilfried Zaha’s valuation”.”

Hey Roy, you silly twat, why do you react like if you were coaching a top club ?? lol

Dissenter

What I still don’t agree with his this relentless angry mob mentality that thinks blind anger is a plan.

Leeds
The billionaire’s son knows more about counting currencies than you.

The fans wanted a reaction. The Kroenkes have issued the most passioned verbal response since they bought the club. It won’t be enough because people want action.
Let’s wait and see how the window ends up.

The same fans who sang ‘one Arsene Wenger’ till the end are now up in arms.

Dissenter

I hope this Zaha bid is now dead in the water.
Palace don’t want to sell him. He’s their ticket to staying in the division. They are looking for ways not to sell him and a very complicated transfer process gives them just that.
They won’t sell him and will increase his wages at the end of the window since they value him as a £80-100 million player.

Micheal

I do not believe a fucking word the Kroenkes say. There is more credibility in a Boris Johnson statement that what Josh says and Stan is accountable to no one.

Stan and Josh have no interest in our club, they have no concern for its supporters and little interest in the heritage.

Scumbags.

Dream10

Emery wants Zaha as first choice. Reckon Saliba, Tierney and Ceballos will be done in the next 10 days. The wide forward signing will go down to the wire.

Valentin

A more modern structure will not make one iota of difference if the people in charge are incompetent. You may have the best scouting department of the world, but it is useless if your negotiation team can’t close a deal. Sometimes you need to know when to walk away from negotiation because clearly the opposite side is not negotiating in good faith. No point in being stringing along. Also I have my doubt regarding the more modern structure. A more modern structure does not mean more people, it mean the right people in charge working in collaboration but still accountable… Read more »

Danny

“Arsenal director Josh Kroenke admits the club can’t compete for ‘top trophies’ as he reveals his hurt after supporters’ protests against dad Stan”.
———————–
One word – CUNT.

China1

A Saliba Tierney caballos zaha martinelli window would be massive but we’ve only got the least important of the lot so far so let’s cool the excitement

This is arsenal lest we forget

NW9 gooner

Sky reporting we are close to signing Saliba and Ceballos – get Everton and a cb and it would be fairly good summer

NW9 gooner

And of course Tierney

HighburyLegend

But the most important is to make sure that Ozil, Xhaka and Mustafi are staying.
(not funny ??)

Chika

Fans demand action and not a letter from the PR department. We’ve been battered for too long to be swayed by some fucking letter.

Only idiots would ridicule spirited efforts without offering any suggestions whatsoever.

China1

Are we really in that tough a financial situation?

Or it’s just that the club wants to spend the money it has cautiously?

Because revenue may not be ideal in the EL but we still have massive cash reserves and also cut a fair bit off our wage bill already

So what exactly will stop us from spending 100m this summer (not including sales) apart from our shitty owners not wanting us to?

Nelson

This #wecaredoyou movement did result in Josh, coming up with this message. It is a good start. Now he is aware that there is an united front monitoring the performance of the club. I hope it is the end of Stan’s Arsenal and the beginning of the Josh Arsenal.

Emery came out with this statement of 3 to 4 new hirings. It sounds too good to be true.

China1

We’ll presumably (hopefully) bin off kos this summer as well, so with no other outgoing we’d still have opened up a small fortune from the wages side From then I gather we could easily spend 100-120m of our cash reserves if we actually wanted to Which we really should by the way. Not because we should throw robbed of money at everyone we buy, but because the club needs several better players in terms of quality, several new faces to bin off the shitty attitude of old and several new players to generate a buzz around the club which can… Read more »

China1

Saliba (next year), Tierney, Everton, martinelli, caballos, and another solid CB could realistically be had for a total of 100m. If we managed to sell a couple more dross the net spend comes down to maybe 70m and we’d be a vastly more interesting team going into next season. I can’t stress enough how important the new faces are for the fans. If we sign the players above and it takes a bit of time to bed them in, people will have a bit of patience I think. We can see a bigger picture and something to be excited about… Read more »

Dream10

“Arsenal did seem to be avoiding the mistakes Manchester United did when Sir Alex Ferguson retired, as they proactively and pre-emptively put in place a technical structure to replace the various strands of the club the grand patriarch had control of, and made up to 10 backroom appointments. The jewel of these was said to be head of recruitment Sven Mislintat. The ultimate numbers man didn’t even see out a full season at the club. Sources now say his departure did come down to a fundamental difference in approach, reflecting how Arsenal put in place a technical structure but maybe… Read more »

Marko

Very odd that statement from Emery. On the one hand kudos for not doing an Arsene Wenger and paying lip service for doing fuck all he said he wants 3-4 for the team “now” which leads me to believe that not is he unhappy with how slow we’ve been but also he can’t be counting Saliba since he wouldn’t be part of the team “now”. But I don’t understand the angle they’re coming from by saying big expensive signings are on the way. Tierney isn’t that big or expensive, Cebellos is on loan and Everton isn’t that expensive either. Maybe… Read more »

Dissenter

China1
‘Because revenue may not be ideal in the EL but we still have massive cash reserves and also cut a fair bit off our wage bill already’

I echo that
Arsenal has more cash in the bank than anyone else. They need to loosen the purse strings this summer.

HighburyLegend

“Or it’s just that the club wants to spend the money it has cautiously?”

The Kroenke family prefers obviously keeping their money for the NFL.

Nelson

I am sure that those big sponsors such as Adidas have a data section monitoring Arsenal’s world wide support. Their market is not only in north London. Whenever I talk to young football fans (not in England) about EPL, Arsenal is regarded as a joke club. None of them pick Arsenal as their favorite EPL team. There will be a loss generation of world wide Arsenal fans.

HighburyLegend

An for buying NFL shirts, of course…
(in fact they’re right on this point, the AFC shirts are far too expensive!!)
(lol)

HighburyLegend

*And

Dissenter

Dream10 Do you realize that all parties were wrong in that scenario you posed; some wanted Suarez and Mislintat wanted Emile Smith Rowe. The former came injured from Barcelona and the latter wasn’t even fit enough. I think management teams disagree a lot about options and some times the members have to take one for the team- you win some…you lose some. If that’s what happened then we are better off without Mislintat because it seems he can only work in a team of one, one where he is always right. That so-called disagreement ought to be very minuscule in… Read more »

Valentin

Dream10, The article is exactly explaining what was wrong with Arsenal. People keep banging about structure, but here we have a more modern structure thwarted by people. Raul and Emery did overrule the man in charge of recruitment. I have no doubt that Even must have been a pain to deal on a daily basis. However what is also clearly evident is that he was competent in his field. So far the other two have not demonstrated that same level of competency in that field nor in their own. Emery failed to reach his targets when it seems easier to… Read more »

China1

Honestly even with all those heavily linked players I’d even offer alvez a one year contract (or include a second year pay as you play type deal) at 150k and see if he bites No transfer fee, better than bellerin and mikes better than AMN. Bellerin is injury prone anyway and needs someone to push him. The team would benefit from his leadership and his presence would give the fans a lift with that little bit of magic. He wouldn’t have to bomb forwards relentlessly, just having alvez in and around the first team would be good for arsenal. Especially… Read more »

Marc

Valentin

The role of the head of recruitment is to identify targets not to interfere with the youth team. If Sven thought Suarez wasn’t up to the job he should have been suggesting alternatives not push a 18 year old from the youth team who was deemed a) not to be ready b) injured.

China1

Not only do players want to join Barca but they can’t even be arsed to negotiate with clubs most of the time and just match the asking price

Luis Suarez had a 40m release clause and Barca still just paid their higher asking price but who cares when you’re minted

NW9 gooner

If today’s news is true then I would say Arsenal are going about in the right way- even if you have money why should you pay more than the market price – everyone negotiates to get the best prices and we are doing the correct thing.

China1

The only team that has almost always sold to Barca at below the market price is….

Arsenal!

Thanks to our professor in economics

Marc

China

“Luis Suarez had a 40m release clause and Barca still just paid their higher asking price but who cares when you’re minted”

Suarez signed a new deal after the Arsenal bid which altered the buy out clause or removed it.

Marc

NW9

” even if you have money why should you pay more than the market price ”

It’s amazing the number who don’t understand that if you just pay whatever you’re quoted the asking price will automatically go up when you approach.

Marko

I say again man who brought in Lichtsteiner was dismayed with the Dennis Suarez signing? Who the fuck cares. Don’t delude yourself into thinking that’s why he left. He left because they didn’t offer him the TD role. In hindsight it might have been for the best.

China1

From memory we sold Henry for 16m (market price in those days 35m)

Fabregas for 25m (market price in those days 40m)

Hleb was also piss cheap

The only time we got a good deal was for song

We literally burned about 45-50m in additional market value selling players to Barca over the years which back in those days m, if invested well (lol!) would buy you a world class player or a couple of excellent ones. But instead we bent over for them and bought Park chu young

But no.

Moray

Marko, I think our idea of expensive might differ from Emery’s.

Though GBP25m for Tierney is a lot of money, in today’s footballing terms it’s a piss in the dark.

I do, however, think there is money there if we really need it, particularly considering the big wage commitments we have lost this summer organically already. We may yet be surprised.

Marc

Marko

It’s possible that Sven’s behaviour during the Suarez deal is what made the club realise he wasn’t suitable for the TD role.

China1

Marc oh I didn’t know that.

Are you sure though? Because their club owner was literally giving a public speech at a dinner laughing at how they had a release clause which we met and they just turned it down anyway. If they did it to us they could’ve messed with Barca too

Arsenal should’ve taken them to court over that

Receding Hairline

” If Sven thought Suarez wasn’t up to the job he should have been suggesting alternatives not push a 18 year old from the youth team who was deemed a) not to be ready b) injured.” He did have an alternative. He wanted Perisic (player he signed for Dortmund shocker) on loan. Perisic was 29 then and we could not agree on a deal with Inter. The fact that three days ago the report says he wanted Saka or Wilock given game time and today it says he wanted an injured Smith Rowe tells you all you need to know… Read more »

China1

Tierney, alvez, Saliba, cabellos, martinelli, Everton dooooo eeeet

Marc

China

There’s a lot of conjecture over whether it was a full on release clause or not when Arsenal made the approach. Ultimately if the player had kicked off it would’ve forced Liverpool’s hand. Liverpool persuaded him to stay (maybe made a promise about leaving in a years time) and gave him a raise. No way they do this and then either remove the clause or increase it.

NW9 gooner

One loan deal addressing our need, one player for the future , now use your net budget to buy the others

Marc

“No way they do this and then not remove the clause or increase it.”

Makes more sense!

Dissenter

Mislintat has a say in the proceedings of the transfer team but he’s not supposed to have his way with every transfer Anyone who’s had to walk with a team knows you can’t win every argument. Really if Sven left because he didn’t get his way with recommending an academy product [not under his ambit] over a loan transfer…then he can rightly fuc* off. That was a small disagreement considering that we will make bigger signings than that. He ought to have stayed. The Suarez loan failure would have strengthened his hands and weakened others. Stuttgart have the pleasure of… Read more »

Receding Hairline

And again as many have pointed out it was not his place to demand players get used more in the first team, his job title was Head of Recruitment. Many go on and on about our need for defenders but his time here saw three defenders join , Mavropranos who the jury is still very much out on, Sokratis who cost more than he should have and Stephan who never had the legs to play here. I mean if you make a call like Stephan and then get annoyed that someone else made a call like Suarez its laughable. Suarez… Read more »

China1

Hmm maybe, tho this is the one time when I don’t blame arsenal for low balling as they did the right thing

What was embarrassing was us getting laughed out the room and the club just accepting it because we accept we are a joke. The jokes in football so often seem to be on us and the club never knows when to bite back

Dissenter

*To work in a team

Valentin

Marc, If ESR was at another club and Sven had pushed for him on a free transfer as an alternative to Suarez would you find that acceptable? If yes, then consider the academy as another club. BTW it seems that Freddie has been moved to the first team exactly for that purpose. Being the champion of the academy player against Emery. So clearly even that management saw there was a separation there that Emery was not naturally incline to fill. If you don’t think that the role of the head of recruitment is to recruit player from other club even… Read more »

Uwot?

Nelson-just where exactly is it you talk to young fans & they say Arsenal are “joke “ club? Not in my experience of travelling around the world.i’ m taking a wild guess & say it’s either India or Malaysia fly infested Manure loving holes.youre obviously associating with the Wrong yoof..

Graham62

Nelson

Arsenal have been a “joke club” for about 8 years(some would say longer).

It officially started after our 8-2 loss at OT and it’s been downhill ever since.

Kids can’t relate to Arsenal any longer.

Shite! Even mature adults can’t relate to them.

Tends to happen when your brought up on mediocrity.

Dissenter

Receding
Suarez has come out to say he was 50% 16 days after he arrived at Arsenal
‘“On the 16th day of arriving at Arsenal I was not even 50 per cent, it was a year to forget but also to learn.’
https://talksport.com/football/558049/denis-suarez-loan-arsenal-barcelona-revelation/
It doesn’t say he arrived injured but I just suspect he wasn’t fit.
I was curious why Arsenal kicked him out before the season was over. There was talk that we weren’t pleased in some ways.

NW9 gooner

Suarez ‘s clause was that we could talk with the player only- there was no obligation for Liverpool to accept. This was confirmed by everyone including the PFA – what made it a bit derisory was the one pound extra bid . We were a better club those days and probably overplayed our arrogance

Marc

Valentin No if we were going to bring in a player to help the push for CL football I would not take an 18 year old with zero first team experience as being the right player to do that. “BTW it seems that Freddie has been moved to the first team exactly for that purpose.” Have you read Arseblog today? It may be the reason the club put out why FL was moved in to the role but that doesn’t mean it’s the actual reason. You just massively come off as someone who wants to find any stick they can… Read more »

Marko

It’s possible that Sven’s behaviour during the Suarez deal is what made the club realise he wasn’t suitable for the TD role. I heard he’s a bit weird but I actually think it’s the deals that he actually done which might have gone against him in the end. It’s actually quite funny but there seems to be this concern with Emery (who doesn’t have final say on transfers) that he would only target players he’s worked with before and journeymen and that’s exactly what diamond eye did and I’d say that they were looking for more young pick up’s than… Read more »

Dissenter

Valentin ‘How can a head of recruitment judged on his work if somebody overrule his decisions? Modern structure can only without interference by other departments. Without that there is no accountability possible.’ How can a head coach be overruled on his decision about who is promoted to the first team? How can the academy director be overruled on his decision about who is promoted out of the academy? How can the head of football be overruled about his overseeing duty blah blah blah The point being that ….it’s a transfer team/committee. No one gets to have their way all the… Read more »

HighburyLegend

“Tierney, alvez, Saliba, cabellos, martinelli, Everton dooooo eeeet”

Possibility that Everton finish above us this season ?? lol

NW9 gooner

Marc – they actually removed it- they were able to sell him for much more (60mil or so) so actually we were instrumental in getting more money for Liverpool. Despite Henry’s bravado they were scared and rectified the position .

Graham62

Uwot

You what?!!?

How about all of Europe, the Middle East, the Far East, the entire African continent, Australia, NZ, the United States , South America, Russia etc etc etc.

You should get out more. Our image is tarnished worldwide.

Your perceptions show an ignorance to where Arsenal find themselves at this moment in time.

Our identity has been destroyed.

Over to you Josh.

Marko

I feel like the Dennis Suarez signing is going to be talked about for years to come (or literally as long as Emery is manager and then instantly forgotten) which is quite funny because there’s so many worst signings that this club has done that are being conveniently forgotten. Also the whole Sven wanting to give Willock or Saka time at RW instead even though they aren’t RW’s and now all of a sudden it’s turned into wanting to give ESR the opportunity it’s all bullshit. None of those three were/are even remotely ready and Perisic/Carrassco/Suarez made sense at the… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Valentin you do know Emile Smith Rowe was injured during the period Suarez arrived at the club right???

“It’s actually quite funny but there seems to be this concern with Emery (who doesn’t have final say on transfers) that he would only target players he’s worked with before and journeymen and that’s exactly what diamond eye did ”

Exactly ….that has been conveniently ignored. Perisic was another one of his former hits he wanted to remix.

NW9 gooner

Valentine is arguing as if everyone is pulling in different directions- it’s so simplistic. We have a group approach to our decision making now – the only area where anyone has any monopoly is the team selection by the head coach

Dissenter

Graham 62 Continue to run amok with the blind rage. I’m sure you’ll stumble on a plan real soon. Is your hair on fire by any chance? The billionaire’s son and heir has said all he’s saying at the moment. Try to get invited to the meeting with Raul and Vinai on July 25th, maybe you can channel some of that anger there. Arsenal reputation tarnished? By what exactly? For smuggling child prostitutes into China or smuggling crack into Malaysia? What has ‘tarnished’ our reputation Stop being so dramatic. Why not just wait and see it Josh can match his… Read more »

NW9 gooner

Some people have been saying that the club has no plan B as if we are privy to all that is happening. Emery has confirmed this plan B in his interview. The only problem of our approach is that the new players will need time to bed in and that may impact our first few matches. So the sooner we get them the better .

Marko

Sokrates was not the right choice(when Issa Diop was available) and Lichsteiner was rubbish. Dissenter ain’t right on a lot of things but he is right in this regard. Diamond eye signing Sokratis for 15-17 million when Diop is going for 22 million is just lazy and picking up Lichtsteiner was a horrendous decision. You couldn’t believe that he was incapable of picking up a RB for a minimal fee. Youcef Atal moved to Nice for 3 million last summer. Hakimi moved to Dortmund on loan. Maffeo off the back of a brilliant spell at Girona moved to Stuttgart for… Read more »

Dissenter

*if Josh can match

Marc

NW9

Agreed and it seems that the only person who wasn’t pulling with the “group” was Sven.

Nelson

@Uwot?

I am from north America. Young people here want to associate with winners only. Sadly, Arsenal is not a winner these days.

Marko

Also this whole Edu is just an observer and doesn’t start work in earnest until the window finishes is nonsense btw. No way we sign Martinelli and possibly Everton Soares without his involvement. And if that’s an example of his involvement then I can’t wait to see what he’s got lined up for our attack over the next few years

Graham62

The Owner.
Unai Emery.
The New Regime.
Arsene Wenger.
Ivan Gazidis.
The BoD.
The Fans.
The Players.

Care to make a pie chart anyone.

To be titled: #WhoIsToBlame?

I’ll give you my results later tonight.

HighburyLegend

You forgot Untold in your list.

Valentin

Dissenter, I think that you get wrong end of the argument. The head of the academy deal with academy players. He does not decide when a player is moved up or out of the academy. That is the job of the head coach and head of recruitment. He may say that player is not yet ready, or that player is not good enough. I have not read Arseblog post, but when Freddie was promoted to first team, it was announced that it was clearly as a link to the academy. That repeated when Steve Bould formal announcement was made. There… Read more »

Uwot?

As I understand it Nelson.N.America has the 2nd highest Arsenal support outside of Africa & has the highest support of any club outside of Manure? Kids will always follow the herd.perhaps it may be the case in last few years but not historically .

Receding Hairline

“There is a lot of club where the head coach is given a group of players and has no say in who to bring only what kind of players to bring. A head coach may make suggestion but the final decision must reside with the head of recruitment. Otherwise you end up with players whom may not fit into the club overall. Or players nobody wants or know what to do with once the head coach is gone.” Valentin Sven suggested Perisic, a player he scouted many years ago and brought to Dortmund, we made Inter an offer and they… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“Sven was recruited as head of recruitment not participant to a recruitment committee. He was also promised by Gazidis to be considered for the position of Director of Football. Why should he accept less responsibility than he was entitled to, simply because Raul felt threaten?” I doubt anyone at Arsenal felt threatened by Sven.What really is there to be threatened by?? They probably didn’t think he had that much about him to warrant the airs he gives himself. I mean whipping up an old Dortmund scout pad to recommend Aubameyang, Sokratis, Perisic is not innovation, Many teams were still out… Read more »

Marko

West Ham signing Haller for 45 million is a great signing. But I honestly have no idea why people go to that club. They literally have delusions of grandeur and then finish mid table and end up with pissed off players dying to leave. You wait a year or two and Haller will be priced out of a move away from West Ham

Marko

He was also promised by Gazidis to be considered for the position of Director of Football.

If Ivan promised it then we were definitely right not to give it to him

Valentin

Receding,

Emery said that he wanted a winger hence the suggestion of Perisic, Carasco then Saka and Nelson.

Emery then arrange to have Suarez who despite Emery attempt to pass him as such was not a winger but a central midfielder. He said so himself in his Arsenal initial media interview.
In that case then ESR make sense. Regarding the injury, I would blame the medical team. It seems they have misdiagnosed him or at a minimum underestimated his injury otherwise he would not have been sent away on loan.

Receding Hairline

Valentin your thoughts on our medical team is well documented so i will skip that. “Emery said that he wanted a winger hence the suggestion of Perisic, Carasco then Saka and Nelson.” Why suggest Perisic and Carrasco at all if he is confident Saka and Nelson were ready to step in?? Simply recommend he plays them and close the door to any outside recruitment. If he can recommend two players from outside why can’t the coach whose future lies on champions league qualification recommend a player he used on the wings at his previous club?? You say Suarez is not… Read more »

Marc

“I give you two examples why it is important to have the final decision with the head of recruitment. Jürgen Klopp at Liverpool wanted Brandt but the head of recruitment got Salah instead”

Then shouldn’t Klopp have walked?

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“Then shouldn’t Klopp have walked?”

Nail on the head, Klopp should have resigned and joined another club since that is the accepted reaction to having a suggestion ignored.

Marc

The biggest point that Valentin seems to skip over is that as Suarez hardly kicked a ball for us why didn’t any of these youth players step into the breach?

Valentin

Marc/Receding,

Klopp accepted the decision of his head of recruitment, he did not go bypass him to get his preferred player.
That’s what a good team player head coach does.

Marc

Valentin

You do realise that Emery did not report to Sven?

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Marc don’t get him started on that.

He has an obsession with youth especially ours. It is very convenient for people to use cases like Gnabry as cautionary tales but no one remembers cases like Eastmond who played quite a few games for us but could not even establish himself in League 2 after he left. 95% of the players in the academy will not play for Arsenal, 90% would not even play for a championship club.

Gonsterous

Arsenal looking to sign very expensive players’ – Emery eyes four new arrivals ahead of new season

Ironically, when you have a 40m budget in today’s market, everything looks expensive.

Marc

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Yeah I’m waiting for all the “Chelsea youth amazing and the way to go” after they score a single goal.

When they miss out on top 4 I’m wondering what the excuse will be.

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“Klopp accepted the decision of his head of recruitment, he did not go bypass him to get his preferred player.
That’s what a good team player head coach does.”

So it was not good team playing when Emery accepted the signing of Stephan, Sokratis, Torriera, Guendouzi, Leno?? Can’t Sven also be a good team player and accept the decision of the man whose job will be on the line if his targets are not met???

Sven was the poor team player here not Emery,.

Samesong

He has an obsession with youth especially ours.

Creepy

Valentin

Marc, Like I said numerous time before. Unless ordered by management , most head coaches don’t bring youth team players into the first team. The demand for short term success and the risk of getting sack override any potential long term reward. At Chelsea, Sarri had no intention to play Calum Hudson-Odoi until Marina stepped in and fearing losing him for nothing next summer ordered him to do so. Part of Freddie’s role will be to be the academy’s players champion. At the beginning of last season, Emery have the same speech of giving youth a chance. In reality He… Read more »

Marc

I don’t know who this Angelino is for City but he’s given away a penalty and should’ve just had another awarded against him.

Samesong

When they miss out on top 4 I’m wondering what the excuse will be.

Hazard wasnt there loool

Marko

David Silva with an absolute belter. The kind of goal Ozil is incapable of

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“Like I said numerous time before.
Unless ordered by management , most head coaches don’t bring youth team players into the first team. The demand for short term success and the risk of getting sack override any potential long term reward.”

And you think it is fair for a manager to be ordered to play players whose mistakes and rawness will cost the team points and then sack the manager when said dropped points leads to an undesirable league placing???

Marc

Good to see Craig Paulson is fully up to standard for the new season. 3 penalty decisions, one given correctly, one not given incorrectly and then one at the other end given incorrectly.