Ultimate endgame: Stan sells. But how?

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Great to see Arsenal fans responding so well the letter yesterday.

Could lead to nothing, or it could be the first step on the path to real fan action. You know, like sending a severed horse head to Josh wrapped in an LA Rams shirt.

Too far?

Sad reality for us is that the exec leadership team only answer to one man, and if that man doesn’t want to make greatness happen, we’re fucked.

The only true way of making things hard for Stan K and his trustafarian man baby is to make a statement in the stadium.

Literally, don’t show up.

I think the empty stands worried the club and those sun-bleached red seats on TV never look good. The only way to make things really unappealing for Stan is to starve the club of fans in the ground. You have to hurt a money many where it actually stings… the wallet.

The way to real change is to convince Stan that selling the club is more financially viable than pumping a few million quid in here and there.

Ultimately, I don’t really understand the point of having a foreign club in the portfolio if you’re actively tanking it into the ground. We’re must be annoying, the cost of bringing us back to the top is getting higher and higher as each season passes, and to truly make it happen, there needs to be a concentrated effort.

I’m not sure Stan has the stomach for that.

Even if we move back to the top, does it really impact their LA life? Doubtful. Not sure people in their circles give a rats backside about how his English club is doing.

We know that £2b wasn’t enough for Stan. He’s already rejected a mega bid. But everyone has a price. There’s a threshold for every owner. A cost vs aggravation equation. One that looks to be getting the better of Roman Abramovich of late. The Russian has no love from the people, no love from the government, and things are so crazy, even he’s starting to look like a pauper.

… however, slate Roman all you like, he loved the football. Joy factored in his passion.

It doesn’t factor into Stan’s. Most billionaires would stop doing something when it became arduous or unsatisfying… or, you know, a bit embarrassing. The sticking point is that Arsenal was never a plaything for him, it was just an asset that made good returns (in a property sense). The only difference now is that the top four supremacy we once boasted has disappeared. How much more valuable can the club get without success?

I read an interesting quote about someone in politics.

‘If you have no values, how can you be judged?’

It’s similar in sport.

‘If you don’t care about winning, how can you ever feel the burn of failure?’

Back to the takeover… where does the money come from?

We’re a real jewel, a very attractive sleeping giant, instant credibility if we were purchased. But are the Arab countries getting a bit bored of throwing so much money at a problem that even PSG levels of investment can’t crack the big trophies?

Or does the fame, credibility and power our postcode offers investors still make us a prize worth chasing?

You still have to give reason for someone to sell.

Arsenal fans are a comfortable bunch. We’re mostly well off, we mostly don’t like conflict, and the idea of spending your Sunday protesting something that is ‘supposed’ to give you joy seems a little offensive to most.

You also don’t want to be told what to do by some loudmouth behind a keyboard or camera. You don’t want your fandom to be judged by whether you go or not. I’m not a season ticket holder at the minute, but when I was, I detested armchair folk telling me how to support.

‘Go fuck yourself’ I thought. I put my money down. I stand in the cold watching Theo Walcott fall on his arse all day. I’ll support how I want. It’s very, very hard to take a rationale view to football, especially if you’ve spent money on it.

… but perversely, if you see your season ticket as a long term investment, the way to get the most value from it is to miss 5 games in unison with 30,000 other fans when things inevitably go sour this season.

The property equivalent is a little bit like owning an old property in London they won’t let you build on because it’s listed. Do you sit on it, because there’s sentimentality and rules in place, or do you burn it down totally by accident?

There aren’t many that take the latter option, but those that take the former are richer than you.

Do you want to be football rich? Well, you know the answer (don’t go. Please don’t try and start a fire)

My campaign would be:

#DontSitOnItSellIt

Needs some work for sure.

Let me know what YOU think in the comments.

P.S. I was flying through the preseason game, but excellent to see Martinelli and Saka score! Well played to Olayinka as well. WINNING START. x

 

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  1. Marc

    One mans pessimist is another mans realist. One mans ambition is another mans folly.

    I haven’t seen anyone on here say they are desperate to keep Kroenke or even want to. There are people saying it won’t be easy, if those people are wrong please explain why it will be easy.

  2. Graham62

    #WeCareDoYou.

    The second step to getting our club back.

    Step 1 to rid ourselves of Wenger and Gazidis.

    Progress.

  3. Micheal

    “Getting Kroenke out is, as you highlight, fairly straightforward. Make it really “messy”.”

    What do you mean ? It sounds like a Brosi JOhnson soundbite – empty words.

  4. Marc

    Micheal

    I’ve asked the same thing and got no answer.

    Maybe he’s going to buy a hotdog / burger at the stadium and squirt some ketchup on the walls or something.

    “Now wipe that up Stan you bitch!” Billionaires hate having to wipe up ketchup you know.

  5. Victorious

    You were one of those firmly up Wenger’s arse for far too long just like others on here.You don’t have the right to call out Stan when you were rimming Arsene”

    Ishola seriously you can do better(or you can’t?), I mean don’t bring yourself low by squibling petty digs in the absence of a thoughtful retort

    You made a silly comment about a owner of a club not being able to pull the plug on a failing manager as a result of sentimental BS by sections of the fanbase(how daft is that exactly) and when given instances on why an ambitious owner should make decisions that is geared towards achieving goals for the club and you foolishly made it about myself with some attempted lame digs. Legend

    Any chance you’re a Yankee or has some some ties to the place? Just curious

  6. Receding Hairline

    “Who posted that? Got any quotes to go with it?”

    I invite anyone who cares to deduce the logic behind the comments below , Comments by Champagne Charlie yesterday

    “You put a brilliant owner in charge and Wenger cannot perform as he did or he’d be gone.”

    “I criticised the Wenger Out protests for the actuality of the protests – alluded to in your ‘hey guys look at this’ piece – they were embarrassing.I also disagreed with the angle of attack on the club as I felt Stan was getting a free pass in favour of targeting his front (Wenger).”

    “But how was it easier to remove a former managerial giant and institution of a manager etched in the club history books over a voiceless yank that hadn’t overseen any success?”

    “No, history has shown us that the target for overhaul was Wenger. You could argue too that very recent history is showing that up as a very sideways endeavour.”

    “Going back to the discussion a couple of years ago that I was comically mocked for: given the choice I’d have binned Kroenke over Wenger. Doing that would’ve taken care of Wenger, the other way around doesn’t as you suggest.”

    All i see in those comments were

    1. Under a different owner Wenger would have performed better. He was negligent in his job because the owner was bad. A managerial great needed a hands on owner to do his 8m a year job

    2. We should have gotten rid of Kroenke for Wenger to blossom

    Now spin your way out of that Charles

  7. Ishola70

    Vic

    You were one of the reasons why Stan didn’t pull the plug on Wenger.

    Did we see Chelsea fans attacking each other regarding Mourinho?

    And it wasn’t just a section of the fanbase that were pro Wenger up until his last few seasons. It was the majority. The pro Wengers used to laugh at those who piped up against Wenger calling them the minority.

  8. Champagne Charlie

    Receding

    So exactly as thought, you’re just a bit dim and running away down a path with a lie

  9. Ishola70

    Stan’s a shit owner.

    Wenger was a regressing delusional manager.

    Gazidis was a charlatan CEO whose crimes against the club become more apparent by the day.

    The fanbase were wedded to Wenger for too long because of sentiment which enabled continuation to the regression we see today.

    There.

    Now can we move on from the blame game.

  10. Receding Hairline

    “So exactly as thought, you’re just a bit dim and running away down a path with a lie”

    Your comments are staring you in the face dude. You think you write a good spin but anyone with a quarter of a plain can see your agenda for what it is

  11. Receding Hairline

    “RH give it a rest really.. Kroenke has proved by far to be the bigger issue for the club.dead obvious by now”

    Yea Wenger was never an issue…i agree wholeheartedly, oya come dey go

  12. Receding Hairline

    “Wenger was a regressing delusional manager.”

    I bought into his BS for a long period, he was a legend in my eyes and wanted the best for the club. I started doubting that when glaring gaps in the squad were left unattended to, he started making excuses for outright failure and on his 1000th game in charge he could not motivate his players enough to at least compete in a game against Mourinho.

    Ferguson thrived under the Glazers and they are not ideal owners.

    Wenger and Gazidis had the freedom and funds to position us better, Kroenke never interfered with their work, they had complete freedom. It’s telling that Gazidis jumped ship the time he did.

  13. Marko

    Come on now Charles it takes a big man to call someone a hypocrite and then not back it up. Should be easy enough. What Don said doesn’t really prove anything except that some of the biggest imbeciles on here agree with you. Make of that what you will

  14. Ishola70

    Yes RH but of course this doesn’t excuse the owner whose indifference to the club is very unhealthy.

    The point is more than one person was culpable down the road to where the club is at present.

  15. Receding Hairline

    Celtic want to insert a sell on clause in the Tierney deal.

    Lennon even referencing the Wan-Bissaka deal, saying their player is more experienced and well rounded than Wan-Bissaka.

  16. vickingz

    RH, going by victorious comment, he’s alluded to the the fact that Wenger was a big problem only that kroenke has always been the bigger problem. Well, I say we got rid of the big problem already, we have gained the prowess and momentum to get rid of the bigger problem. Arsenal fc must be great again.

  17. Leedsgunner

    If Maguire moves to United, we might as well kiss Tierney good bye. They will blow us out of the water. In fact I would guess that’s the reason Celtic is dragging out the deal because they really want to deal with their ex Manager Brenda and they’ll probably ask for £30m plus for him because they can (from Leicester)

    Sad that Gazidas promised us that by 2012 we would be competing with Bayern and in 2019 we can’t even compete with Aston Villa or Leicester…

  18. Receding Hairline

    “The point is more than one person was culpable down the road to where the club is at present.”

    Of course

    two of them are out the building and what we need now is time and the right decisions. A certain poster here does not believe time is needed to turn the club around, he scoffs at the very notion of time.

  19. HighburyLegend

    “Arsenal should sign Hakim Ziyech and sell Mesut Ozil, says Marc Overmars”

    ” …But Arsenal didn’t listen to me,”

    Hey Marc, aka big mouth, if you can find a club ready to pay Ozil’s wages, we’re in!!

  20. Receding Hairline

    “If Maguire moves to United, we might as well kiss Tierney good bye. They will blow us out of the water. In fact I would guess that’s the reason Celtic is dragging out the deal because they really want to deal with their ex Manager Brenda and they’ll probably ask for £30m plus for him because they can (from Leicester)”

    I blame Dissenter for this comment

    Sell a central defender and replace him with a full back eh

  21. Dissenter

    Receding
    “Celtic want to insert a sell on clause in the Tierney deal.”

    I really think we should walk away from this deal.
    They want us to pay a Scottish record transfer fee and then still have a sell-on clause?
    WTF

  22. Marko

    We’ve been down this road before about Charlie and thinking Wenger could still hack it under a different owner. It’s old news

  23. Marc

    Leeds

    The current cash issues aren’t something any of us are happy about but to hold an ambition of just being able to out bid other teams? Pissing money up the wall is what got us into this position. We have a value for a player – we may be willing to negotiate to a degree but there comes a point of no fucking way.

  24. Marko

    If Maguire moves to United, we might as well kiss Tierney good bye. They will blow us out of the water

    I just don’t get people sometimes

  25. CG

    Leeds G

    “”””If Maguire moves to United, we might as well kiss Tierney good bye. They will blow us out of the water. “”””

    What, arguably the best run club in the country are going to buy an injured player for £25 million for who plays in the Scottish pub League..?

    Having a laugh…..hahahahaha

    They have a better left back already on their books.

    The reason why Leicester City do so well- is because they dont buy players for big money that are crock.

    (We buy crocks like Suarez and Tierney)

    Why don’t Arsenal buy Tierney in January?

    HE MIGHT BE FIT BY THEN!

  26. Dissenter

    Ha…me again
    What did I do?

    Arsenal needs to walk away from the Tierney nonsense. Celtic can keep him.

    Big clubs don’t accept sell-on clauses from smaller clubs.

  27. Receding Hairline

    “We’ve been down this road before about Charlie and thinking Wenger could still hack it under a different owner. It’s old news”

    Yet i am telling lies, i wonder who he thinks he is kidding

    He has been praying Wenger gets a new job and smashes it so he can gloat but the lack of offers for Wenger has put that on hold.

  28. Champagne Charlie

    Receding

    Look Karl Pilkington, your lack of comprehension doesn’t is another mater entirely.

    “You put a brilliant owner in charge and Wenger cannot perform as he did or he’d be gone.”

    Use that savvy of yours to explain how the quote above says Kroenke influenced Wenger in actually performing badly.

    To anyone above the age of 12 it quite clearly states “cannot perform as he did OR HE’D BE GONE” – that’s called accountability.

  29. Marc

    Dissenter

    I was arguing against that the other day but Celtic are beginning to look like they’re playing games. Leave them with an unhappy player.

  30. Guns of SF

    Ceballos for 3m a year makes super sense on loan.
    Alves as much as I love him at 200k /week for 2 years might not be that great

    Tierney we need to give up on…. Celtic are being asses at this point.
    We need another option to pursue at LB

    Do we have a plan b????

  31. Champagne Charlie

    “We’ve been down this road before about Charlie and thinking Wenger could still hack it under a different owner. It’s old news“

    Yea the old news being Banford quoting me on about 4 occasions, and the quote being exactly as i’d stated and not remotely as you’re making out.

    So yea, Marko is a lying cunt, the oldest of news.

  32. CG

    This Tierney deal is absolutely ludicrous.
    He has only played 9 games in Scotland this year

    How on earth will his body hack it in the prem???

    We might as well sign A. Cole as left back.
    At least he is fit now!

    Our physios will want a pay rise nursing Tiereny pubis every week.

  33. Marko

    My only concern with the Cebellos deal is there’s no option to buy. Of course if things go well we could probably still negotiate a price during the loan but at the same time they could ask for something extortionate

  34. Cesc Appeal

    Ceballos starting to look really good.

    Seems to be a deal that suits everyone, Arsenal don’t want an option to buy and Dani Ceballos still wants to return to Madrid.

    Arsenal offering to pay his full salary for the season and the player is said to be an admirer of the club, London and Emery.

  35. Receding Hairline

    Yes the Tierney back and forth and the constant reference to Wan-Bissaka by them is getting annoying. They should be comparing him to the winger James United got from Swansea for 18m not Wan-Bissaka. The Scottish league is championship standard

  36. Cesc Appeal

    I like that the rumour is Arsenal have placed a third and final offer to Celtic.

    I hope we stick to that, all this Wan Bissaka talk, sell on clauses now, majority of fee up front etc, just fuck them off if they reject a guaranteed £25 Million plus add ons.

    Just move on if they reject this one.

  37. Victorious

    Ishola cut the crap already,I wanted Wenger out when he won for the club our 11th F.A cup, not my fault the most important person in the club is a charlantan and a nonentity in football matters

    I mean even if there are fans out there still bedded to Wenger even as he ebbed out of competency does that in any way justify the total neglect of the club by Stan? what excuse does the owner of the club has in allowing the club to rotten beyond recognition?

    I hope the fans absolutely turn on him makes his position untenable soon enough, that’s the only way we start making the journey back to being serious again

  38. Cesc Appeal

    Marko

    I don’t think the player wants to permanently leave Madrid and so wouldn’t want it which is why Arsenal suits him.

    Could all change during the loan, especially if Madrid land Eriksen and then target Pogba in January/the summer and Dani Ceballos likes it at Arsenal.

    We don’t want him arriving pissed off because his Madrid dream is over, we want him to play wanting to make a point.

  39. Batistuta

    Marc

    Or we could have moved on to another option weeks back when we saw they were playing games rather than spend more than half the summer trying to negotiate with them.

    A proper negotiating team would have moved on from Celtic and Tierney a long time ago

  40. Marc

    Cesc

    I think you’re a good guy and one of the moderate posters on here who doesn’t get too wrapped up in hysterics however I do have an issue with you.

    You’re a fucking Jonah – every time a good link looks like it might have some legs you mention it and it goes pear shaped.

    Please please stop!

  41. Cesc Appeal

    Ceballos as a CM/CAM type player in a 3 man midfield could help massively balance out our midfield.

  42. Marko

    the quote being exactly as i’d stated and not remotely as you’re making out.

    Yeah cause you’re a squirrelly little cunt who leaves just enough wiggle room to back out of a lot of the shite that you say. It’s very conniving. But we know what you were getting at in that regard. You thought that Wenger was still capable and under the right circumstances could still do a job. Which makes all your rantings the past year all very sincere and credible. And objective remember how objective you are. And honest so honest

  43. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    Haha!

    I will stop…or try to. Probably not.

    On that note, I do like how the ground underneath Spurs stadium looks really solid and non sinkhole like. Certainly looks good to not collapse and send anything resting on it into the eternal fire and brimstone below.

    Certainly looks good not to happen on game day either…when they’re playing Chelsea. Looks good not to happen.

  44. Elmo

    Forget Tierney. You don’t get pushed around by a club whose record signing is £9m. £25m, they won’t accept a CL qualification incentive as they don’t think we’ll ever qualify, and they want a sell-on clause. Joke.
    We have plenty of holes to fill (CB, LB, CM, L/RW), so just buy the best available players that we can get at a fair price from overseas, then come back for the other positions in the next 2-3 windows. We’re not going to be competitive over the next 2 years anyway, and will likely have a new manager next summer, so plan for 2 years out.

  45. Marc

    Cesc

    A loan still works for us assuming the player works out. We’re chronically short of money so in theory we get a quality player we can’t afford which helps us get back in the CL so we can then spend on a replacement.

  46. Receding Hairline

    “As MARCA reported, there are still some at the Estadio Santiago Bernabeu who believe that Ceballos has a place in Zidane’s first-team squad, but ultimately the Frenchman’s decision appears to have prevailed, having told the midfielder that he would not play much this coming season.”

    The reason for no option to buy

    “The 22-year-old likes Arsenal as a club, the idea of living in London, and playing under Unai Emery, who has been the main driving force behind their attempts to lure Ceballos to the Emirates Stadium.”

    For those who believe only grafters will fancy us under Emery (looking at you Pierre).

  47. Cesc Appeal

    ‘A loan still works for us assuming the player works out. We’re chronically short of money so in theory we get a quality player we can’t afford which helps us get back in the CL so we can then spend on a replacement.’

    This is exactly it, I think.

    I still think we might see a similar strategy with Malcom albeit potentially there with an option to buy as Barcelona want their money back on him.

    If we could land Dani Ceballos and Malcom on loan that would be absolutely genius work…and of course I don’t think it looks likely at all…not at all…no way, no good.

  48. Marko

    I wanted Wenger out when he won for the club our 11th F.A cup

    Vic you’re a lying sack of shit and everyone knows it. Nothing worst than a hardened AKB pretending that they were in fact calling for his head years ago. Shameful and pathetic.

  49. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    Look how that works out, I’m so conniving but don’t worry because Marko knows what I reallllly mean. Got it mate, fuckin oracle you are.

    It’s definitely not a case of me stating something verbatim, and having some internet dick splash trying his hardest to twist it into something else and yell until that’s how it’s taken.

    Receding has done the exact same thing from yesterday’s Kroenke discussions. He’s accusing me of claiming Wenger got worse because of Kroenke – ignoring that I actually quote blatantly said under a brilliant owner Wenger would’ve been dismissed earlier.

    But here I am conniving and what not. Melt

  50. Victorious

    The joke is on the the management for still negotiating for an injured player who his parent club is obviously not willing to part with

    I will stop at 25M and tell them to do one if they ask for a penny more..Theo hanadez a way better LB has moved for under 25M already

    Firpo an absolute beast of a LB is linked away for about 25M also

    Tierney isn’t the only LB in the world we’re just being run by some incompetent buffoons

  51. Ishola70

    Vic

    No-one is disagreeing with you that seeing the back of Stan is for the best for the club.

    To imply that anyone is “backing” Stan at this point is silly.

    What some may want to point out though is the notions of absolute non-blame to others and escape routes for Wenger.

    And I’m afraid that due to your outright hostility to the new set-up from the get go straight after Wenger left the club makes some suspicious of your motives and agenda in all this.

    It is now officially boring the to and fros on this subject.

    Rather than bickering be thankful that now the focus is entirely on Stan.

  52. Marko

    Charlie I want you to know that I read none of what you just wrote. On this specific topic you’re at your most squirrelly so there’s no real point in reading it

  53. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    You in a nutshell. Bang your chest at what YOU claim others mean with what they say, and then stand fingers in your ears.

    You’re a complete bellend.

  54. Guns of SF

    We get both Ceballos and Malcom that is a coup. Just Ceballos would be good- at least Ozil will be a sub or typically not even play.

    Also im done with Celtic…. fuck off Celtic

    What is our plan B….. our left side is shambles

  55. Victorious

    You in a nutshell. Bang your chest at what YOU claim others mean with what they say, and then stand fingers in your ears.You’re a complete bellend.”

    Lmao.. NAILED IT.. I mean I’m having the misfortune of being subjected to this exact treatment by Moan-arko

    Guy has utterly lost his marbles

  56. Receding Hairline

    “Halstenberg, Aaron Martin and possibly Firpo could be attainable for more or less the same as Tierney.”

    Wonder who identified him as the one we should go for, hope it’s not a case of seeing how well Robertson turned out and hoping his compatriot will do the same. Robertson sure didn’t cost 25m

  57. Batistuta

    Spent almost a whole month negotiating with Celtic football club for a player who’s even out injured and probably won’t be fit for the start of the season if we sign him.

    Very smart strategy that to be honest

  58. Receding Hairline

    “Talks are progressing over a deal for Tottenham’s Kieran Trippier to join Atletico Madrid, according to Sky sources.

    There is now said to be increasing confidence on all sides that an agreement can be reached before the weekend.

    However, a source in Spain has cast doubt over whether Atletico boss Diego Simeone would sign a player without a good grasp of Spanish.

    Spurs have made Trippier available this summer and he has also been of interest to Juventus and Napoli. Sky Sports News revealed last week that the 28-year-old is also on Bayern Munich’s shortlist.

    Spurs’ other right-back Serge Aurier is also available this summer. Marseille’s Hiroki Sakai is the type of player they want to bring in to replace them, Sky Sports News understands.”

    To be honest i am surprised Aurier turned out to be a rubbish signing

  59. Receding Hairline

    Bottom line is things are beginning to heat up transfer wise across Europe, lets hope we finally close a few deals. The lack of links to a Central defender worries me though,and it can’t be Tierney or bust, i caught the highlights of the Colorado game this morning and Kolasinac was dreadful

  60. Victorious

    Rather than bickering be thankful that now the focus is entirely on Stan.”

    Good guy Ishola and that’s exactly why I’ve signed the online petition to make a dent on the charlantan’s hold even though it’s unlikely to make any impact but any small effort might turn out huge here

    Have you though Ishola? Still wouldn’t share where you come from?

  61. Receding Hairline

    “Have you though Ishola? Still wouldn’t share where you come from?”

    If you and Un na nai weren’t on different continents i would have sword you both type from the same place. Your comments are identical and then there is the curiosity for wanting to know where everyone is from

  62. Un na naai

    Hahaha
    Squirrely little cunt

    That one tickle me.

    Cc always gets you marko. You were almost pleasant last night when discussing films. Maybe you just become a belligerent bastard when discussing football and politics
    Best to keep you on movie talk

  63. Marko

    Receding the thought behind going for Tierney is right but if the price is spiraling out of control then go elsewhere. The guy is a 15-20 million signing we were right with how we went about the deal initially. Contrary to what Bati thinks. I dare say if we went at them originally with a 25 million pound bid we’d be haggling for 35 million right about now

  64. Marc

    Receding

    My guess is that the CB position was being looked at as Saliba for next season and us making do this season hence the situation with Kos.

    Unless of course we manage to shift on Mustafi by some miracle.

  65. Receding Hairline

    “I dare say if we went at them originally with a 25 million pound bid we’d be haggling for 35 million right about now”

    that’s a possibility he conveniently ignores

    Guess Man United are wasting time here too chasing Maguire for months

    “United, who initially offered £40m for Maguire last month, are now prepared to pay closer to £70m to get their man, but Leicester’s starting point is £80m and some reports suggest they are even ready to hold out for £90m.”

    Source Mark Ogden

  66. KAY Boss

    If Celtic think they’re way bigger than arsenal and therefore will like to stretch issues, it’s better we walk away from the deal. It’s getting irritating. Comparing Tierney to wan bissaka make me wanna run for a piss.

  67. Marc

    Kay

    It’s more a case of Celtic thinking they can compare us to ManU – a club who paid £50 odd million for Fred last summer.

  68. Receding Hairline

    “Receding My guess is that the CB position was being looked at as Saliba for next season and us making do this season hence the situation with Kos.”

    There is still talk we are in the market for a center back who can play this season. A guy from Benfica was mentioned but his release clause is 54m euros

  69. Dissenter

    Funny enough, Batistuta and Victorious just wanted us to pay the damn 25 million and get on with it.
    Now they are looking for new things to complain about.

    It was no secret Tierney was recuperating from a routine surgery and won’t be ready to start the season. That was the entire reason why the deal wasn’t been rushed.

  70. Receding Hairline

    “Now for a bit of a bonkers one from Spain… Barcelona have exercised their option to repurchase Marc Cucurella for €4m (£3.6m) after the left-back impressed on loan to Eibar last term.

    Eibar had exercised their own option to buy the player at the end of the 2018/19 season for €2m (£1.8m), but the contract included a clause allowing Barcelona to buy him back themselves, which they have now taken up. ”

    Here is the thing with silly clauses

  71. Marko

    I expect a CB unfortunately not the two we need but at least one. No way our idea of addressing the defence is same again. RB is a concern though no links since Meunier.

  72. Marc

    Dissenter

    They desperately need to get back into the CL and not for the obvious reason either. The deal with Chevrolet runs out in a couple of years they’ll see a major loss of income if they keep up the current form.

  73. Dream10

    Forget about Tierney.
    Let’s go for Jamal Lewis as an alternative.
    Young player, homegrown with good speed.
    By an older left back next summer.

  74. Receding Hairline

    “RH the curiosity is genuine,l find the moniker having a strange background from the Yoruba language”

    He addressed this sometime back

    He has nothing to do with the Yoruba’s or Africa even

  75. Batistuta

    Dissenter

    Look if you’re looking for someone new to always jump on, you’d best look elsewhere man, sure un nai and victorious would happily oblige you.

    What i stated was why go from an opening bid of 15 to 18 million rather than just offer 20 and move on to other targets, still don’t see anything wrong in that to be honest, i have never advocated just paying up what they’re asking.

    Still doesn’t make us look very silly with the negotiations when Milan got Lucas Hernandez for lees than 25 million and there are other LBs knocking about who we could get without haggling for again a WHOLE MONTH when we’ve got other areas we should be strengthening.

    Also did you catch Kolasinac last night? He’s ridiculously bad so while it’s nice to mention how United and others go about making their own bids, we don’t exactly have the luxury or cash to waste haggling transfers like the peak Wenger era

  76. Marko

    Receding actually great news potentially that for us. Madrid signing up Mendy and now Barca signing up Cucurella means a clear path to Firpo or Grimaldo. Unfortunately it looks like we’ve put our eggs in the cheaper Tierney.

  77. Un na naai

    Lads
    Throwing this out there
    It’s my anniversary Sunday and I’m thinking of an “outside the box” gift
    Mrs is a hippy
    Any suggestions?

  78. Receding Hairline

    None of those guys seem to be on our radar Marko…seems we want to go British with the left-back signing

    Kolasinac looked like a fan who pulled on a jersey yesterday, has no defensive awareness whatsoever.

  79. Champagne Charlie

    Dissenter literally just splits his time between spoiling for arguments and making idiotic statements these days.

  80. Batistuta

    We should be doing better is my point. There should have been a plan tailored to our obvious lack of funds.

    We shouldn’t be sat here on the 19th with just one body in who might not even feature that much.

    If anyone feels that’s too much to ask them its seems we want different things for the club

  81. Marko

    we don’t exactly have the luxury or cash to waste haggling transfers like the peak Wenger era

    What are you talking about it’s the lack of funds that has us haggling over every single player. We can’t piss away money like we did in the past. We literally can’t afford to overpay for players anymore

  82. KAY Boss

    Ceballos, never seen him play that much to make good accounts on him. But seem gradually emery is getting the players that will play for him just lime the French players did for wenger. I feel emery will outlast this season and I’m beginning to fear for the extinction of CG.
    Seem to have cooled on the Everton deal this minute.
    News also we’re looking at a rb. Alves, james-wilding of stevenage and fagner of Corinthians. No to fagner. Guy’s slow in recovery and has a bit of Santos about him..

  83. Receding Hairline

    “It’s my anniversary Sunday and I’m thinking of an “outside the box” gift
    Mrs is a hippy
    Any suggestions?”

    A grown up Husband would be nice

    Just Kidding

    Get her Amala and Ewedu wrapped in a box, you can’t think more outside the box than that

  84. Victorious

    Dissenter
    We have spent almost a month haggling for a player who Celtic are not obviously willing to sell

    The notion of paying the 25M asked and then moving on to other targets was because we all thought that was Celtic’s initial price for the player instead of wasting weeks after bidding 15M to eventually still pay the full moolah ,not a hard one

    But we should be absolutely moving on now as it seems they want what Bissaka went for and are seemingly taking the piss on us.they dragging us through the mud and publicly calling our bluff

  85. Marko

    Kolasinac looked like a fan who pulled on a jersey yesterday, has no defensive awareness whatsoever.

    Yeah for the life of me I can’t understand how we have trouble getting rid of him. In the bundesliga team of the year once and his salary is… well let’s not talk about his salary. Let’s just say it’s the going rate these days 😉

  86. Guns of SF

    Forget Tierney
    Let them get knocked out of CL in the group stage oh well….

    Everton, Ceballos and a LB —- we need it done

  87. Dissenter

    “Dissenter literally just splits his time between spoiling for arguments and making idiotic statements these days.”

    Seems the pot is projecting at the kettle

  88. Marko

    Gift advice for Don’s Mrs? I’d say a car so she can take the kids and get as far away from you as humanly possible. That or jewelry

  89. Dissenter

    Batistuta
    My digs at you aren’t meant to be derogatory, just good fun.
    What’s an Arsenal transfer like without good ‘ole anger?
    Cheers

    * I still think we get Tierney
    Our negotiating team are just trying to make a name for themselves.

  90. Marc

    ““It’s my anniversary Sunday and I’m thinking of an “outside the box” gift”

    What about a season ticket and the number of a good solicitor for the following divorce?

  91. Victorious

    Raul who we were meant to believe was a badass negotiator has so far turned up to be a dither and a weak ass haggler

    Zaha? Tierney? Lol.. You’re having a laugh

  92. Receding Hairline

    “Supporters have called upon Stan Kroenke to invest some of his own money in the squad for the first time since he bought out the other shareholders to take the club under private ownership last year.

    However, Josh Kroenke has reaffirmed the message that the Gunners must find other solutions and adapt their transfer strategy accordingly
    “I’ve always told [Raul and Vinai] we need to be as aggressive as possible,” he said in his interview with football.london.

    “It’s no secret that we have a Champions League wage bill on a Europa League budget right now. That’s a fact. And one that we’re figuring out how to face internally at the moment.

    “That doesn’t mean that my father or I have ever said anything about any restrictions on spending. We know where we need to be and we know the areas we need to address on the pitch.

    “We talk about those extensively, usually before the supporters become concerned about those roles. We try to stay ahead of the curve and these guys are working as hard as they can behind the scenes to bring some more talent into our pool.”

    According to Kroenke, rather than focus on established names, Arsenal must sign more players like Martinelli and last summer’s signings such as Lucas Torreira and Matteo Guendouzi.

    “It’s not who you buy, it’s how you buy,” he said. “There’s multiple statements to say how to skin that cat.

    “While we’re not going to be in the market for some of the top players in the world at the moment whilst they are the top players, we’re actively scouting the globe to find the next big thing to become great at Arsenal football club.

    “And not only will we bring them to the club, we’ll be able to retain them in the fold going forward.”

    Josh Kroenke Speaking in Colorado

  93. Gentlebris

    ‘Respectfully this is a load of nonsense. If you were about to hire me and I was downbeat about being able to oust you (let alone a billionaire) you wouldn’t even hire me? Just as well cause I wouldn’t be interested in working for a lunatic.’

    Marko, you lazy toad.
    You are hiding in the post office sucking milk off hardworking tax payers.
    How would you have survived in any competitive environment if you have not been given a charity job at the post office, given the way you reason here?

    ‘I’m called out for standing up for Kroenke – I’ve no issue with him being gone I’d just like to hear what the master plan is?’

    Marc, A group of people already answered your question yesterday, Pedro inclusive.
    They have started out a process, leaving behind little minds like you asking ‘how’.

  94. Champagne Charlie

    Dissenter

    Does it seem that way? Because I come here and comment about Arsenal, which in turn gets some fannies tingling. You don’t comment football, you come and comment about what others are saying and sit making snide remarks.

    You’re also the only knobber that thinks Federer is struggling, Mitrovic is a top 6 player, Tierney going to Leicester, and Brenda taking Leicester top 4 with two seasons. I’ve uttered nothing as ridiculous, so please don’t pretend you’re anyone but alone in that mental space.

  95. HighburyLegend

    Josh’s most priceless gems :
    “Anyone that knows me knows how passionate I am about Arsenal”
    “But I’m not in this business to make friends, I’m in it to win.”
    “It’s not who you buy, it’s how you buy.”

    LOLz

  96. Un na naai

    Kidding Get her Amala and Ewedu wrapped in a box, you can’t think more outside the box than that

    Hairline

    I can’t shake the feeling you’re mocking me.

  97. aces

    Dissenter literally just splits his time between spoiling for arguments and making idiotic statements these days.

    these days?

  98. Guns of SF

    Funny that a Billionaire’s son doesnt realize that it is he and his father who have let this rot run for this long.

    Where is the accountability?

    Did our dire situation just fall out of the sky?
    His response says it all about being out of touch with the fans. It came as a surprise apparently based on his response..

    Nothing new there. Absent owners…. pointing blame elsewhere

  99. Un na naai

    Googled it
    Some kind of soup or stew ingredients. Does it get you high? Speaking of which has anyone tried ayahuasca? Meant to be life altering!

  100. Receding Hairline

    “They have started out a process, leaving behind little minds like you asking ‘how’.”

    To be honest there is nothing earth shattering about asking a question that should have been asked at least 8 years ago yesterday.

    Changes have been made in the way the club is run, maybe those changes have not borne fruit as fast as many would have hoped or demand it does but to deny it has been made is dishonest.

    Pedro wrote a piece about a five year plan when Edu was unveiled, i asked him yesterday what really changed between a few days ago and now to demand the owner of the club sells up. He has always been against asking Stan for money so that cannot be the endgame

  101. Cesc Appeal

    Josh Kroenke: “I would say ‘be excited’. There are a few things that I know our group are working on, and a few things we hopefully have on the doorstep.”

    We will see I suppose.

  102. Champagne Charlie

    To shift gears ever so slightly, let’s say we end the summer with a positive windows recruitment…

    What’s the expectations for the coming season?

  103. Receding Hairline

    “Some kind of soup or stew ingredients. Does it get you high? ”

    Nope

    Tasteless to boot and served with lots of oil so the box will be ruined before you get home so yes in a nutshell i am mocking you

  104. Victorious

    You’re also the only knobber that thinks Federer is struggling, Mitrovic is a top 6 player, Tierney going to Leicester, and Brenda taking Leicester top 4 with two seasons. I’ve uttered nothing as ridiculous”

    WTF? hahahahah

    Such mind boggling whoppers from one source? Ridiculous

  105. Marko

    “For me, on a personal level, I’m not sure how to address my passion. Anyone that knows me knows how passionate I am about Arsenal Football Club,” said Josh Kroenke

    Eh

    The rest of his comments just read like generic shite if I’m honest. Says something about values every second sentence.

  106. HighburyLegend

    I forgot this one : “we’re actively scouting the globe to find the next big thing to become great at Arsenal Football Club”

  107. Micheal

    Kroenke:

    Josh and his slug of a father are basically telling us to fuck off and leave them alone. It’s their “toy” and we are not allowed to play with it.

    Do they have any clue how much we loathe and hate these bastards.

  108. Receding Hairline

    “Says something about values every second sentence.”

    The word Values does not appear once in football londons version of the interview

    Look people have a right to be cynical when the clubs owners are mentioned, they have been woeful and negligent. But it is worth pointing out that when the sale of Arsenal football club was mooted supporters wanted two things

    – To remain self sustaining
    -little or no interference from the owners (in Arsene we trust and all)

    They let us self sustain and refused to interfere until we were ran in a ditch. We the Arsenal support have a role to play in this decline

  109. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    I said nothing positive or negative about it, merely stated he had said it.

    No jinxing here.

  110. Dissenter

    CC
    You’re a real know around here. I don’t keep scores so I wont be replaying your number one hits, a few have been mentioned here in the past hour.
    I don’t talk football…yet you reeled off a few footballing points you’re ascribing to me.
    Make up your mind.
    Remember Wenger has nothing to do with our lack of identity and thinking Wenger would have won the league if we had a different owner.
    The difference between you and I is that I’m not a lying weasel. I am able to walk back from my misstatement while you argue yourself into a rabbit hole.

  111. Marko

    Maybe there is confidence in what remains of the transfer window. You can’t spout shite about being excited or telling them to be aggressive in the transfer market if we’re playing with 45 million and a small penis.

  112. Un na naai

    Marko

    Not when you’re in town. My garden slugs and snails do more damage than your feeble attempts

  113. Guns of SF

    The fucking board went with the American instead of Usmanov… perhaps there was some anti russian bias happening and Usmanov held on as long as he could before selling up to Kroenke.
    I dare say he would have been more active as an owner despite his Wenger love as well…..

    Where is that Dangote fella?

  114. Marko

    Not when you’re in town. My garden slugs and snails do more damage than your feeble attempts

    Do they mock you too? You poor bastard

  115. Uwot?

    The jock c** ts are taking the piss.still haven’t forgiven us for nicking bonnie Prince Charlie off them all those years back.Think were gonna cough up what those muppets over at Manure paid for Bissaka.r they having a laugh.id love it absolutely love it to announce a top left back from elsewhere for MORE than their looking for Tierney.just to shut the whinging f*** s up.Their fans are the most deluded in the world.Trust me.know loads of em….

  116. Receding Hairline

    “Barcelona are set to rival Liverpool and pursue Real Betis full-back Junior Firpo, according to Mundo Deportivo.

    The La Liga side could offer 19-year-old Juan Miranda on loan as part of a deal.”

    You were saying Marko??

  117. Guns of SF

    Funny how Arsenal.com are pushing an interview with Josh K right now- after the letter was released yesterday.

    Damage control anyone?

  118. Receding Hairline

    “Where is that Dangote fella?”

    Building a refinery

    I call BS on his Arsenal remarks anyway, not really a sports person in my mind. Nice guy and all but i think he will flip the club for a profit first chance he gets.

  119. Marc

    Marko

    That’s been one of my points. You can’t let the media run the £45 million transfer budget story and then not manage to spend it.

  120. Dissenter

    I wrote that Federer was struggling, realized it was bone headed and walked it back quickly
    CC said Wenger would have won the league had the owner been more committed… he’s still lying about it till today even though it’s set in stone for all to read.