Ultimate endgame: Stan sells. But how?

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Great to see Arsenal fans responding so well the letter yesterday.

Could lead to nothing, or it could be the first step on the path to real fan action. You know, like sending a severed horse head to Josh wrapped in an LA Rams shirt.

Too far?

Sad reality for us is that the exec leadership team only answer to one man, and if that man doesn’t want to make greatness happen, we’re fucked.

The only true way of making things hard for Stan K and his trustafarian man baby is to make a statement in the stadium.

Literally, don’t show up.

I think the empty stands worried the club and those sun-bleached red seats on TV never look good. The only way to make things really unappealing for Stan is to starve the club of fans in the ground. You have to hurt a money many where it actually stings… the wallet.

The way to real change is to convince Stan that selling the club is more financially viable than pumping a few million quid in here and there.

Ultimately, I don’t really understand the point of having a foreign club in the portfolio if you’re actively tanking it into the ground. We’re must be annoying, the cost of bringing us back to the top is getting higher and higher as each season passes, and to truly make it happen, there needs to be a concentrated effort.

I’m not sure Stan has the stomach for that.

Even if we move back to the top, does it really impact their LA life? Doubtful. Not sure people in their circles give a rats backside about how his English club is doing.

We know that £2b wasn’t enough for Stan. He’s already rejected a mega bid. But everyone has a price. There’s a threshold for every owner. A cost vs aggravation equation. One that looks to be getting the better of Roman Abramovich of late. The Russian has no love from the people, no love from the government, and things are so crazy, even he’s starting to look like a pauper.

… however, slate Roman all you like, he loved the football. Joy factored in his passion.

It doesn’t factor into Stan’s. Most billionaires would stop doing something when it became arduous or unsatisfying… or, you know, a bit embarrassing. The sticking point is that Arsenal was never a plaything for him, it was just an asset that made good returns (in a property sense). The only difference now is that the top four supremacy we once boasted has disappeared. How much more valuable can the club get without success?

I read an interesting quote about someone in politics.

‘If you have no values, how can you be judged?’

It’s similar in sport.

‘If you don’t care about winning, how can you ever feel the burn of failure?’

Back to the takeover… where does the money come from?

We’re a real jewel, a very attractive sleeping giant, instant credibility if we were purchased. But are the Arab countries getting a bit bored of throwing so much money at a problem that even PSG levels of investment can’t crack the big trophies?

Or does the fame, credibility and power our postcode offers investors still make us a prize worth chasing?

You still have to give reason for someone to sell.

Arsenal fans are a comfortable bunch. We’re mostly well off, we mostly don’t like conflict, and the idea of spending your Sunday protesting something that is ‘supposed’ to give you joy seems a little offensive to most.

You also don’t want to be told what to do by some loudmouth behind a keyboard or camera. You don’t want your fandom to be judged by whether you go or not. I’m not a season ticket holder at the minute, but when I was, I detested armchair folk telling me how to support.

‘Go fuck yourself’ I thought. I put my money down. I stand in the cold watching Theo Walcott fall on his arse all day. I’ll support how I want. It’s very, very hard to take a rationale view to football, especially if you’ve spent money on it.

… but perversely, if you see your season ticket as a long term investment, the way to get the most value from it is to miss 5 games in unison with 30,000 other fans when things inevitably go sour this season.

The property equivalent is a little bit like owning an old property in London they won’t let you build on because it’s listed. Do you sit on it, because there’s sentimentality and rules in place, or do you burn it down totally by accident?

There aren’t many that take the latter option, but those that take the former are richer than you.

Do you want to be football rich? Well, you know the answer (don’t go. Please don’t try and start a fire)

My campaign would be:

#DontSitOnItSellIt

Needs some work for sure.

Let me know what YOU think in the comments.

P.S. I was flying through the preseason game, but excellent to see Martinelli and Saka score! Well played to Olayinka as well. WINNING START. x

 

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  1. CG

    Walt

    “””Definitely the man we want guiding the club into the future.”””

    No we will have Raul guiding instead:

    Suaraz
    Tierney with his Hernias
    £30 million defenders that we cant play
    Lich
    Waiting For Edu
    Ramsey Fiasco.
    Emery and Good Ebening
    16 Captains
    Chameleons and Protagonists
    Brighton (h) and (a)
    Baku Bashing

    Lover!
    O
    O
    S
    E
    R
    !

  2. Un na naai

    Ishola

    Yes. 1/23 years.
    Emery has a 100% record of failure to reach the champions league
    Even when our rivals were gifting it to us on fucking platter.
    Sit down and be quiet

  3. Dissenter

    Wenger did well when there was a financial squeeze

    As soon as the purse was loosened, his marbles spilled out and his brains got scrambled.

  4. Marc

    Dissenter

    He got old. I’ve said before old people can’t a make a decision but believe that no one else has the knowledge or experience to make a choice.

  5. Dissenter

    Valentin
    “The deal with Chukwueze collapsed because they wanted a % in case of resale and Gazidis refused to sign on that.
    There was also the minor issue that as a minor from a different continent, Arsenal was at risk of falling foul of FIFA regulation. Barcelona had just been banned from transfer for that exact reason.

    …but the signed Nwakali? What are you referring to?
    Kanu facilitated the trial and even he is still mystified till today as to why Chukwueze, who was the better player was not signed.

  6. TOLI83

    Auba is the better striker out of the two of them.

    People don’t like it, but he is and will continue to be better than Laca for another 2/3 season so he is worth keeping.

    Laca hasn’t got the burst of speed for me that’s needed in the prem for a loan striker role.

  7. CG

    Chris

    “””CG, Who should the club have gone for instead of Emery in the summer of 18 then?”””

    Ancelotti
    Arteta
    Vieria
    Henry
    Benitez

    In other words An Arsenal Man
    Or a PROVEN Premier league coach who speaks English.

    Underwhelming appointment from Day1
    Will End in Tears

    You know it.
    I Know it.

  8. TOLI83

    Ancelotti no – his poor display from Napoli vs us proves he is past it.
    Arteta – unproven, not a great choice realistically, no experience to back it up
    Vieira – hopefully our next manager now he has experience
    Henry – doubt he will cut it as a top flight manager
    Rafa – on a par with Emery. Not a bad choice, but not outstanding either.

    Emery isn’t the man long term but we shouldn’t make out there was a strong list of candidates at the time .

  9. Chris

    CG

    Overall I have been underwhelmed by Emery, mainly due to the finish to the season, but at the time his appointment made a lot of sense.

    So I don’t disagree that in hindsight he isn’t what Arsenal need long term, but all the names you mention either were and are not ready, or unlike to come. Possibly Benitez but I am not convinced that would have worked out either.

    Allegri was who I would have loved to have seen take the job.

  10. Marko

    The deal with Chukwueze collapsed because they wanted a % in case of resale and Gazidis refused to sign on that.
    There was also the minor issue that as a minor from a different continent, Arsenal was at risk of falling foul of FIFA regulation.

    Always an excuse. He actually just dithered. Couldn’t tell who the better player was. Shocking I know

  11. Valentin

    Dissenter,

    Maybe the deal for Nwakali who had less suitor was easier.

    Anyway with the FIFA restrictions and the near impossibility of any of them ever getting a work VISA in UK, I don’t understand why we even bothered.

    It was the same with South American kids who never made their mark at Arsenal. Joel Campbell, Wellington Silva, etc.
    Knowing as well that at the time, Arsenal did not have good track record with players on loan. Nobody was actively following them and checking their progress. Even less put a plan in place for their career progression.

  12. Marc

    Marko

    Wasn’t there a quote from Dick Law or someone the other day about transfer spending having to be like they were spending their own money?

    And then we wonder why we had “when I was a lad you could buy a CM for £3,50”

  13. Un na naai

    Mark with aC
    Let Chris talk to who he wants to. Who he hell are you?? You just keep spunking your money up the wall and lining kroenke’s pockets

  14. Marko

    Chuckwueze was also signed up for half a million compared to Nwakali’s 3 million so the whole yeah but percentage of a sell on fee is some weak ass shit. Sounds like another case of Arsene Wenger trying to be smart but ending up looking like a dumbass

  15. Marko

    Maybe the deal for Nwakali who had less suitor was easier.

    Nwakali summer of 2016 3 million. A year later Chuckwueze 500,000. The lengths some people go to cover up for that man I swear

  16. Thorough

    There’s absolutely no way Chukwueze was worth more than Nwakali when we bought the latter. Nwakali was the Nigerian team captain and was even one of the top 3 MVPs in that tournament. I kept telling people Chukwueze would be the star eventually. I think Arsenal paid for poor scouting actually. It’s easy to go pick the captain and MVP in a winning team. However if any of our scouts have dared to watch the team for 90 minutes they would have known that boy was gonna be huge. He was feisty like Robben even at 17.

  17. Marko

    “It was very close for me to sign for Arsenal, almost had the contract in my hands. Unfortunately, it did not work out fine with my academy due to the side of agreement and payment. They did not agree with the terms of the contract.”

    A year later he was at Villarreal for half a million. Paid 3 million for Nwakali though. Pretty obvious they got the two mixed up. Yeah that’s it Arsene got the names wrong

  18. Valentin

    Nwakali was 18 years old when he signed for Arsenal on August 2016, so his transfer was legal from FIFA point of view.
    Chukwueze was 17, so his transfer would have all set of legal issues that maybe Arsenal was not willing to face.

  19. Valentin

    “It was very close for me to sign for Arsenal, almost had the contract in my hands. Unfortunately, it did not work out fine with my academy due to the side of agreement and payment. They did not agree with the terms of the contract.”

    Sounds like Gazidis refused to agree with the selling academy rather than Wenger not spotting his talent.

  20. CG

    Chris

    “”””but at the time his appointment made a lot of sense.”””””

    Such as?

    Not speaking English ( you are following the exceptionally lucid Wenger after all)?

    No experience in England.
    -The Prem is a Brutal Business.( not La liga)

    No track record- except the third rate Loosers Cup!

    Not first choice with one ARSENAL supporter in the universe.

    Sacked 3 times previously

    And just come on the back of a humiliating Nou Camp Drubbing in the CL with PSG

    He only made sense for one man.
    The Toxic Raul

    Dont be naive
    Think for yourself, man
    Not what others tell you to think.

    Tell me again- why you think he made sense to replace our best and longest ever serving manager?

    Off you Go…
    T.T.

  21. Marko

    Chukwueze was 17, so his transfer would have all set of legal issues that maybe Arsenal was not willing to face.

    Again some lengths. I don’t know what you’re doing or why you’re doing it but we did actually try to sign him we just didn’t in the end. This suggests any actual worries about legal issues weren’t of concern otherwise why even try in the first place. Besides all that why not then try again to sign him when Villarreal went for him? Sounds increasingly like old great eye for talent Arsene Wenger just simply didn’t spot the talent in Chuckwueze or was afraid of paying enough for him. I don’t blame him you just spent 3 million for one Nigerian it’s okay to let one slip through your fingers. Just another example of the sheer incompetence of one Arsene Wenger. We’ll add it to the list between having Yaya Toure on trial and not signing him and picking Gervinho over Hazard

  22. Marko

    Sounds like Gazidis refused to agree with the selling academy rather than Wenger not spotting his talent.

    Ah nice try. But the ever presence of Arsene Wenger in all things Arsenal was really apparent in 2016 and besides he still bought Nwakali for 4 times as much.

  23. CG

    Walt

    “””””Its my money and CG is a proven troll””””

    But it ok for you to wish Ozil- to have a career finishing injury..

    As for your money.

    One would not be surprised- if it the British Welfare State cash. I have heard it’s quite lucrative over there.

    But I could be wrong.

  24. Chris

    CG

    We were competing in the EL. Emery has a proven track record in that competition. Whether you like it or not, it offered a route back to the CL.

    His record at Valencia and to some extent Sevilla showed that he could take a team to the top four in a major league, which was also the target.

    So at the time it was not an unreasonable appointment and made sense on those levels even if he probably wasn’t first choice.

    As I say, I don’t think he will be here this time next year anyway, the end to the season showed some very worrying signs and the defensive side of things certainly needs improvement.

  25. Un na naai

    Marc

    How many here cheered for us to lose when wenger was here? They cheered when Atletico beat us in the semis because they were so spiteful they would rather see their team lose to deny him a European trophy

    But I’ll agree with you. Cheering against your own side is next level cunitsh behaviour no matter the situation.

  26. Dissenter

    Valentin
    Why don’t you just say you don’t know
    Kanu who brought the two kids to Arsenal is still mystified as to why we didn’t even sign both. He still can’t believe we didn’t sign Chukwueze who was the unique talent.
    Anyone who knows a thing about Nigerian football [and I’m convinced you don’t] knew Chukwueze had the higher ceiling.
    They even had the same agent at the time. They came from the same academy in Nigeria.

  27. Dissenter

    Truth is that we didn’t sign Chukwueze because Wenger didn’t rate him.
    Wenger got to a place when he didn’t even believe in wing play once tiki-taka infested his brain.
    Anyone can miss a talent but when it happens too often it becomes a problem.

  28. Marko

    Cheering against your own side is next level cunitsh behaviour no matter the situation.

    Cheering for the bitter rivals of the club you pretend to support is also cuntish behavior. Or at the very least dumb as hell

  29. Unai

    Chris, say we finish 3rd next year.

    Give Emery another year or use our newly won position to attract a more popular appointment?

  30. Graham62

    Pierre

    Who’s “flip flopping?”

    Have I ever said Emery is the solution? No I haven’t.

    Was I exceptionally teed off by his end of season failings ? Yes, I was.

    Do I feel he still deserves a chance? Yes, I do.

    Is he a long term solution? No, he isn’t.

    That’s why I’ll continue to sit on the fence.

    Based on the past 48 hours, at least the fans now seem to realise the severity of our predicament after the Wenger shambles.

    The ball is now in our owners court.

    Did you sign the petition?

  31. Dissenter

    Un na nai
    You are the first individual here to ever cheer for spuds
    … and to think you were the one lambasting foreign fans for not getting what Arsenal was about?

  32. Chris

    Unai

    Personally if that were to happen and we had the clout to attract Allegri, or someone of his calibre, then I would be happy to see us adopt a ruthless approach and part ways.

    In reality the club would extend Emery.

  33. Un na naai

    Dissenter

    Yeah. Because they are an English team, I’d id back the English team over any non English team.

  34. Un na naai

    Marko

    The further they went, the more exhausted they’d be and the better chance we’d have had of pipping them to third but as we all saw emery flushed it down the toilet and now we have Martinelli to show for it
    Wooooooah. Great stuff from the new master tactician

  35. Pierre

    Wenger did buy some duds, that’s for sure .

    We will never know , but if Arsenal / Wenger had unlimited funds to spend, similar to City, Chelsea , and United , it would be interesting to know how many of the nearly signings would have made it to Arsenal.

    Taking into account we could offer the player any financial incentive and the selling club the price they were asking, or if they didn’t want to sell , make them an offer they couldn’t refuse…..I believe many of those players on the nearly list would have ended up at Arsenal .

    of course, we will never know but if only kronke had been an Abramovich type owner and wanted to invest with hard cash to show how ambitious he was ……things would have been so different..our big names would have stayed at the club, Henry, Cesc, RVP, Nasri would have seen all these top players arriving at the club and would be thinking ” yeah, I want to be part of that” .

    Instead, they all left because the club didn’t show the necessary ambition.

  36. Unai

    Agreed, dont think Emery is the man by any stretch.

    I’d love us to attract a top coach to be honest but even with CL football think it would be problematic, I think we will be seen as a poison chalice for some time to come.

  37. Pierre

    Graham

    Nearly?

    You nearly made a comment without mentioning you know who …but then again, you are what is known as an obsessive ( wenger) so I shouldn’t really expect anything different.

  38. Graham62

    “Cheering against your own side” is totally different from being bored shitless by a manager and regime that had destroyed any enjoyment you once had.

    I personally never “cheered the opposition” when Wenger was around, but it did get to the stage where losing games became the best option and the only real solution to our problems.

    You have to distinguish between the two.

  39. Dissenter

    Un na nai
    “Yeah. Because they are an English team, I’d id back the English team over any non English team”

    That’s antithetical to everything Arsenal. I can understand cheering for Spuds players when they play for England but to cheer your rivals on?
    You even wanted them to win the CL. How would you have lived the rest of your life in Spuds shadow?

    I say this because you repeatedly called foreign gooners fake and johnny come lately.

    Who’s out of touch now?

  40. Un na naai

    Pierre

    I think we could have afforded Suarez, hazard, Kante and co. They just didn’t want to spend the money. Was short sighted

  41. Marko

    The further they went, the more exhausted they’d be and the better chance we’d have had of pipping them to third

    Yeah that’s what you were thinking you waste of space. You were found out and duly ridiculed for it

  42. Dissenter

    There’s a vicious heat wave sweeping across America right now.
    These players on pre-season camps will be baked like little bits of pizza

  43. Marko

    I think we could have afforded Suarez, hazard, Kante and co. They just didn’t want to spend the money. Was short sighted

    AKB’s out in force. Yeah he chose to sign Gervinho over Hazard and he chose Xhaka over Kante for example

  44. Graham62

    Pierre

    Does that mean you “nearly” signed the petition?

    Must be difficult signing when you know you’re basically sticking a dagger in your masters heart.

    Who’s the obsessive again?

  45. Valentin

    I know that some have difficulty understanding facts.

    FiFA does not allow the transfer of minors from Africa (Nigeria) to Europe (U.K.) unless one of the parent move to the country in question for reason unrelated to the child football career.

    Some clubs have bypassed that regulation by either paying one of the parent to move or by pretending to have the player in trial but registering him at his 18th birthday.
    When discovered, All these tactics have resulted in the club getting a transfer ban. Chelsea, Barcelona, Real Madrid have all that punishment dished to them around that time. Understandably Arsenal did not want to go that route.

    The only way you can go around is to have a pre-contract with the player and the club, however payment cannot be exchanged before the player 18th birthday. So the selling club has absolutely no incentive in selling the player unless the guaranteed amount is really worth it.

    In some case payments paid upfront (technically illegal) are marked as collaboration fees that is then deduced from the final transfer payment.

    Again looking at what the player said, Arsenal and the diamond academy could not agree on the payment amount or payment schedule. Completely unrelated to the ability to spot a good player.

  46. Un na naai

    Yes and city are a crass oil club. I dont like city. I do t like how they roll over everyone with their money.

    And if you’re so smart then why are you a dub post man?
    You letter posting thick paddy jackeen retard.

  47. Pierre

    Unai
    ” Pierre, it wasnt the club who showed lack of ambition it was Wenger. ”

    I’m not so sure, he didn’t show a lack of ambition when he bought Overmars,petit, Anelka, Vieira, Henry , Freddie, Reyes, Wiltord, Pires , Campbell…so why would he show a lack of ambition when he already had a superb side including Fabregas, RVP, Adebuyor, Nasri …..if the finances were there then surely he would have added to the side the way he added Reyes and Wiltord to an already superb side .

    I’m sure Marko will come up with the wenger quote around that time , something along the lines of ” if I was given a 100 mil to spend I would give it back ” which I’m sure he said , but it’s easy to say something like that if you haven’t that money to spend in the first place .

    I believe Wenger realised that he was swimming against the tide when first Chelsea and then City came along with their unlimited funds and he had to re evaluate the club’s ambition .

    What we are seeing now is a continuation of that as the club is still not prepared to take risks to get back to the top.

  48. Unai

    I respectfully disagree Pierre. When the money teams appeared Wenger waved his little white flag and from that point he became more defensive and potentially senile in his decision making.

    If your going to give him credit for building the great teams and club you have to apportion blame for the following downfall, shaky signings and current malaise, the two things are not exclusive.