Arsenal fans finally unite around a single cause #WeCareDoYou

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You’ll have probably seen the letter a group of Arsenal fans has pulled together that’s gone out on the internet.

The gist of the document that you should be reading right now is that Arsenal, despite all the trumpet blowing and promises, still appears to be as rudderless as ever.

We’ve been driving into the abyss for years, club leadership has been taking temperature checks using the wrong the metrics, we didn’t invest, we didn’t make big decisions when we needed to, we thought a cash pile was success, now the walls have come crashing down in one massive heap of average.

To make matters worse, Stan took the club private, so our access to exec leadership is even more pointless than it was before.

Football isn’t a business, it’s a community endeavour that grew into something so unlikely, fans let the raiders take grip in the game before we knew what was going on.

Arsenal feels like it’s being run like a super average business at the minute. We’re being outspent by Aston Villa and Leicester. Our strategy is confused. Our hiring policy is errant. The stadium is utterly bereft of excitement. Arsenal is an ordeal, not the joy it should be.

For too long, our fans just grumbled into twitter feeds, digging into opposing trenches to fight it out over details so insignificant, they allowed us to take our eyes off the core issue… leadership doesn’t care, no one is accountable for success.

Nothing quite summed up the ownership issue like Josh K turning up to the LA training session wearing an LA Rams t-shirt. At best, it’s an embarrassing oversight, at worst, it’s a spiteful jab at the fans that confirms our worst fears… we don’t matter.

This letter is the coming together of names that don’t usually mix. This is fans from around the globe making a statement. This isn’t a rabble demanding the Saliba deal goes through, this is a group of people that just want to see a better Arsenal. It’s a simple demand, but a necessary one.

What is the plan?

If we’re being run like a business, why is it such a sloppy one?

Why don’t we have spikey voices on the board that will hold people accountable?

Where is the innovation?

Where are the ideas people?

Why is no one EVER held accountable?

Raul might have that covered. Edu might be the saving grace. This season might be the final episode in a desperately repetitive Netflix series called Operation Transition that seems to have been on repeat for 10 years.

It might not be…

But the fans have spoken, they’ve asked the question, do you care?

I think this is a great first step.

Unite the voices. See what the club response looks like, then regroup, and work out the next steps.

Let us know what you think in the comments. If there’s ever a day the club is reading, it’s likely today.

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  1. AFC1974

    Nice one Pedro.

    However, if they read the posts above, we are all in trouble.

    Dear Arsenal,

    Wot Pedro said. And I’ll not buy any merch until you sort this sh*t out.

  2. mano'gunner

    Am I still banned for reasons I have no idea about?

    I am fully in support of this letter. Hopefully it reaches the human side of the Kroenkes, if there even is one.

  3. Micheal

    Totally agree Pedro. But Kroenke willnot give a flying fuck about protesters, petitions or letters. All billionaires are detached from day-to-day reality. He will be untouched by our sentiments or outcry.

    The only way to reach Kroenke is through his wallet. Tell the sponsors you will not buy their products, boycott the bars-fast food outlets at the stadium and don’t buy from the Arsenal shop.

  4. Un na naai

    Marc

    How is that shit talking?
    I gave up my ticket and my membership in 06 in protest to the club’s treatment of the fans.

    You just kept blowing your kid then come on here and whine like a bitch while you line their pockets

    Who’s the fool? Bet it’s cost you a fortune aswell. Would you want another 10 years of kroenke milking you like some overbloted cow? With bloody, puss filled udders?

    Cos that’s what you are right now.

  5. Champagne Charlie

    Ishola

    There’s literally nowhere I’ve hinted or suggested he didn’t. I said he was a micro problem vs the macro. We’ve changed his seat and still have the same issues, that’s clear to all.

    Doesn’t mean Wenger was fit for purpose, simply means he wasn’t the primary issue facing the football club.

    Going back to the discussion a couple of years ago that I was comically mocked for: given the choice I’d have binned Kroenke over Wenger. Doing that would’ve taken care of Wenger, the other way around doesn’t as you suggest.

    Receding

    Usual ignorant take of what’s being said being offered up. We’re showing no semblance of change in 18 months, don’t conflate the two.

    Also, Gazidis pushed the Mustafi signing through. But go on about “spinning” matters why don’t you, back in the fruit bowl you honeydew.

  6. Samesong

    Hipsters don’t spend money on football

    Don they do where I work!Pass the parcel around with season tickets cause Daddy got a box there.

  7. WengersSweeties

    This is a great first step, a strong one too.

    But it’ll be for nothing unless it has momentum after here….

  8. Champagne Charlie

    Marc

    Fair game, but you seem incredibly defensive on that front. I personally don’t see giving up tickets as being the right currency to affect any change.

    To me it would be better served visually internally/externally and with a manner of consistency. I think protestations can look to get too ‘clever’. Making a visual stand home game after home game would require engagement from the club at some stage.

    Online movements have their place for awareness too modern day. Fans should play up to the media in instances like this and use them for the reach and sway they have.

  9. Marko

    Sad that this issue has been hijacked by the Arsene Wenger loyalists here

    I’ve noticed that the last hour or so. Which is weird because Stan’s ineptitude as an owner shouldn’t take away from the fact that Arsene Wenger was utterly incompetent as a manager and awful for Arsenal football club for years. The decline of Arsenal football club technically speaking happened prior to Stan Kroenke getting involved. That isn’t me having the back of an awful owner who’s doing nothing to help the club as it continues to get worse that’s just a fact prior to him we were still losing star players and failing in transfer windows and signing poor players. Since 2011 when he became owner with 60 something percent of the club Arsene Wenger spent 560 million on players prior to leaving. All in all the fosseled cunt was doing a bad job and had to go. The fact that we haven’t instantly moved forward onto better things as a club doesn’t change anything about that man. Don’t delude yourselves

  10. Receding Hairline

    Oh so now it was Gazidis who wanted Mustafi?? Didn’t know he was our Chief scout

    . https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1125764/Arsenal-news-Arsene-Wenger-Shkodran-Mustafi-Premier-League-Ivan-Gazidis

    Guess the report above whose sources are “football london” is your source. So Gazidis now picks defenders for a manager who has been at a club for 20+ years, that is actually an indictment not a defense.

    “We’re showing no semblance of change in 18 months, don’t conflate the two”

    It took 10 years to damage, why should it be fixed in 18 months??

    Now back to your passionate Wenger defense Charles, a managerial giant or something along those lines

  11. MidwestGun

    I can assure you Josh Kroenke is a tone deaf dumbass. And yes he shouldn’t have worn a Rams shirt to an Arsenal photo op.. You think he would wear an Arsenal shirt to a Rams executive meeting in a game at Wembley? Nope.. just shows you how fuckin clueless and how much the Kroenke’s don’t care about the fans. No surprise… ask St Louis how much they care. There aren’t any real Rams fans.. anymore because he fucked them all over for the promise of better revenue 10 years from now in LA. The Rams had left LA in the first place originally because the fans there didn’t care…. so what does he do .. he moves them back there.
    I’m glad Pedro signed that petition but it won’t accomplish much.. to be honest it’s like spitting at the car window of a dictator as he drives by in his bulletproof limo… It might make you feel better but unless you are willing to throw yourself in front of the limo, he won’t notice. You would need significant and sustained protest for a long period.. not just 20 dudes with spray painted bedsheets outside the Emirates.

    Bottom line. The first time Arsenal go on a 5 match winning streak it will all be forgotten. I do however think this could drive them into doing better in this transfer window and that would be a start at least.

  12. Champagne Charlie

    Receding

    There’s been no Wenger defence, add illiterate to your list of deficiencies Regaine.

    Gazidis wasn’t head scout, he was simply the guy that pushed through a deal when Wenger was unsure about committing to it. Dead easy read. Also, not that important.

    Oh now it took 10 years to damage? Getting longer and longer, how convenient. Haha so 18 months is what? Not enough time to show any marked improvement? What the fuck do you do for a living that 18 months is no time at all 😂😂

  13. Cygan

    It’s good the letter has gone out. My guess is they won’t care unless financial losses start kicking in. And whilst empty seats tell an important story, most of them are due to season ticket holders that didn’t turn up (because the football is poor) and the game is technically “sold out”, plus there are 40,000+ people on the season ticket waiting list…

  14. Marc

    CC

    Now you’re talking – online is a great way to get fans behind a movement. Asking ST holders who have spent a lot of money to just not go is really not going to catch on – beyond people not being that fussed on occasions.

    I already don’t buy any merchandise and outside of a bottle of water / hot drink in the winter try to avoid spending any further money in the stadium.

    What we need is a demonstration that gets press attention that then filters through to sponsors but it needs to be easy to get behind. I’ve suggested before fans not taking their seats until a certain minute in the game. They wont’ miss anything as you can watch the action in the stadium concourse. An almost empty stadium at kickoff will get attention and if seats then fill up on say the 9th minute it’ll get coverage.

  15. Receding Hairline

    “Receding There’s been no Wenger defence, add illiterate to your list of deficiencies Regaine.”

    That ship has sailed Guvnor, you have let your mask slip today, what did you call sacking Wenger…sideways move right?? Lol…the only illiterate here is you Charles.

    “Gazidis wasn’t head scout, he was simply the guy that pushed through a deal when Wenger was unsure about committing to it. Dead easy read. Also, not that important.”

    Wrong, very important actually. His team needed defensive reinforcements but he had no names, he once said he watches hours on end of football but when it came to buying players to improve his team he suddenly has no names, to the point the CEO has to bring a body in because the man who has made it his job to say who comes in has no names. It’s a very important detail.

    “Oh now it took 10 years to damage? Getting longer and longer, how convenient. Haha so 18 months is what? Not enough time to show any marked improvement? What the fuck do you do for a living that 18 months is no time at all 😂😂”

    Putting an emoji at the end of that confirms it as nonsense. Our decline as a football club has been gradual and yet it can be traced as far back as 2009

  16. Dissenter

    CC
    “Doesn’t mean Wenger was fit for purpose, simply means he wasn’t the primary issue facing the football club.”
    This is where you show up your agenda
    Wenger was the dominant footballing authority at Arsenal. A man that the owner publicly kowtowed to. Wenger has acknowledged that Kroenke has never denied him transfer funds.
    Yet you write [I believe with a straight face] that Wenger was not the primary problem. Wenger kept quiet all through. He enabled the passive ownership because it gave him unquestioned authority to pursue his mediocre experiments in his last decade.
    Blame Kroenke all you want, it’s deserved criticism but stop the pretentious nonsense about Wenger not being the primary problem.It’s just silly sophistry. You want to argue Kroenke is primary and push Wenger to a secondary status … which is silly.
    Wenger has as much blame as Kroenke. He was supposed to the the repository of everything Arsenal and he sold out.

  17. Dissenter

    Kroenke was the stereotypical no-nothing hard nosed American business man who wanted to gut the club
    Wenger was the epitome of everything Arsenal stood for. We all loved him [once upon a time]. He was supposed to watch out for us and protect the footballing aspect.
    Together they did the great wreck, one for cheap profit, the other for his own self-preservation.

  18. Micheal

    Marc: “I’ve suggested before fans not taking their seats until a certain minute in the game.”

    Good idea. It would be more effective if the protest were staged during the first televised game of the season.

  19. Batistuta

    Marc

    It’s a start, the Liverpool fans did the whole 70th minute or so thing a couple of seasons ago where they would leave before the game ended.

    The fans have the power, empty stadiums will always do the trick if you ask me, the sponsors don’t want 30,000 folks turning up on match day or a massive protest going on outside the stadium on a live broadcast match with empty seats I’m the stadia, we have to start somewhere.

    Oh and when you say, you’re one of the few here who attend games, where do you get that from? I’m sure there’s lots of folks who read this blog who ho to games regularly.

  20. Champagne Charlie

    Receding

    Yes my mask has well and truly slipped by stating the owner was a bigger issue than the manager.

    The trouble you, and a few others face, is that you’re so concerned with Wenger the man and completely lose the concept of him as the manager. Wenger isn’t being talked about as a person, it’s his position being spoken of.

    The prominent issue with Arsenal the past decade has been leadership. No ifs or buts.

    You put a brilliant owner in charge and Wenger cannot perform as he did or he’d be gone. You put another manager in place of Wenger and it changes nothing for the incompetent leadership from above. It’s a bandaid.

    How has our bandaid done this past season? Oh right, nvm. Sideways move it literally was. Fruit bowl for you.

  21. Nelson

    It is the perfect timing. All the fans are feeling so uneasy with the transfer activities. Sponsors, who invest in Arsenal will also take notices. The board is currently meeting Stan and Josh. We have already heard so many empty statements. I’ll see what substances the board can come up with.

  22. Guns of Hackney

    Good post but…

    Why is everyone missing the fundamental issue here? Arsenal are a total success! But not in the way we want them to be. Stan owes you nothing. He bid for the club, paid for it and now owns it. Period. It’s his. Not yours, mine or your great grandad’s.

    Stan didn’t take this on for sporting greatness. He saw an opportunity and took it and now he owns a thriving return. That, you fucking idiots is business.

    Letters? Duh. White hankies. Oh fuck off. The problem now, as was when Arsene was stinking the place up is you! The cretins who keep going to the games, coming home after watching paint dry, then moaning. STOP GOING!!! Just stop. The pain will go away.

    Sorry but Stan doesn’t owe you anything. Unless you had £600m or whatever to buy your own club, you can fuck off.

    Football isn’t a kick about anymore when the centre forward grew up around the corner and YTS his way to the first team cleaning boots. He’s a multi millionaire at the age of 18!

    Football IS a business. And that’s where you lot fall down.

    Riddle me this, if you had a business as profitable as Arsenal and you literally had to do nothing for it, wouldn’t you be over the moon? Exactly.

  23. Dissenter

    The people who have the most power to hurt Kroenke are the ones who have the most skin in the game.
    It’s the fans who attend matches who can make a point by staying away.
    That’s hard because how can anyone tell a hard working middle class bloke to walk away for tickets already paid for. Those fans have to make up their minds.

    All the internet petitions are just that..internet stuff.
    Kroenke didn’t give a toss when he took the Rams away from his home city even after they had made financial commitments including s stadium which now serves to collect cobwebs. What makes people think he cares what Pedro and Hugh Wizzy think?

  24. Dissenter

    The other day, the Turk character on ASTV organized an anti-Kroenke rally
    How many showed up?
    He got more abuse than praise on twitter.

  25. Un na naai

    Sad that this issue has been hijacked by the Arsene Wenger loyalists here

    Jackeen
    Loyalist?? Poor choice of words

    Mark with a C

    Yes marko. I took a stand against the suits before we sold out further.

    You want me to give you lottery numbers? God you love throwing money away don’t ya? Just giving it away you. Bet your mates have a right old laugh when you get to the bar

  26. Ishola70

    Yeah doesn’t have to be either or in this instance.

    As has been said Wenger was really on the “wane” before Stan even appeared on the scene and this waning eventually led to obvious clear more serious regression in his last few seasons.

    Along with this a shit owner.

    Charlie as said before Wenger was eaten before Stan because he was seen as the face of the club. That’s the way it is. Kroenke was in the background in comparison and that would have suited Stan just fine. And Wenger deserved to be eaten by the end.

  27. Marko

    Gazidis wasn’t head scout, he was simply the guy that pushed through a deal when Wenger was unsure about committing to it.

    Wenger was only unsure about the price. The tight fisted one was scared shitless of spending. They had to cajole him into spending anything over 17 million

  28. Left testicle

    CA
    I agree with you and have signed the petition but why would Stan either step up or sell up. The deciding is and always will be the ‘bottom line.’

  29. Left testicle

    CA
    I agree with you and have signed the petition but why would Stan either step up or sell up. The deciding factor, is and always will be, the ‘bottom line.’

  30. Guns of SF

    Wasnt it Arsene who always spouted the values of self sustaining prior to Kroenke buying the team? I think that Kroenke loved this aspect and it was a major selling point. A successful club that doesnt spend a lot of money… with the head man ( Arsene) a major penny pincher.

    Little did he know what was to come – that Arsene was incapable of taking the club forward again, and that investment is indeed needed to stay compettive

    That is an absent owner to me that simply doesnt care to even see whats going on with his “asset”

    so, let us slip to 7-10th every year and see if that does anything. My guess is it will not. Arsenal breaking even or make money every year it seems, so its good colateral for him

    Its disgusting… but the letter does state a good point about board memebers needed, who can shift the needle with the club and hold accountability.

  31. Ishola70

    Mustafi and Xhaka were clearly Wenger buys.

    They stink of Wenger.

    Mustafi was seen as a “footballing” CB. Played RB earlier in his career and was seen as being decent on the ball. Any real defensive nous about him of secondary importance. Classic Wenger.

    Xhaka seen as a “footballing” DM. Again reeks of Wenger. See above regarding Mustafi.

    Both clearly Wenger buys.

  32. Receding Hairline

    “You put a brilliant owner in charge and Wenger cannot perform as he did or he’d be gone. You put another manager in place of Wenger and it changes nothing for the incompetent leadership from above. It’s a bandaid.”

    Oh so it’s now Kroenke’s fault Wenger was a poor tactician who get humiliated regularly in the champions league and hasn’t won a league title since 2004

    It’s now Kroenke’s fault we have spend close to 250m yet are finding it hard to shift players on fantastic salaries above their abilities?? Wenger had issues with spending money but he had no problems with bumping up the wages of average players

    The only problem Kroenke has was not sacking Wenger once he took ownership of the club.

  33. OleGunner

    Well its a unifying start by the fans and prominent supporters groups coming together and putting Stan on notice.

    Like I said on the prior blog, Stan will wipe his arse with the letter during his morning crap-but again, its a start.

    Moving forward I would like to see precisely targeted/vicious online campaigns against Arsenal sponsors to make their life miserable, as well as more protests in and around the stadium. Non stop spamming of their pages and making their association with Arsenal a nightmare.

    Essentially after coming together as fans, we need to tarnish his Kroenke’s image heavily and hit him in the only place it truly hurts-his wallet.

  34. Cesc Appeal

    Left Testicle

    Yeah I mean it’s difficult and he pretty much shows he doesn’t care about quality just monetary gain.

    That’s where he has to be hit.

    One thing I would say is every cooperation is social media sensitive now, sponsors will be seeing this, KSE will be seeing this, Arsenal will be seeing this, players will be seeing this…it could get embarrassing for him this year.

  35. James.wood

    How is that rumour progressing
    about the 32 Excecutive boxes not
    being sold as of about a week ago.
    .
    That really would be a massive implication
    to the club.

  36. Champagne Charlie

    “Oh so it’s now Kroenke’s fault Wenger was a poor tactician who get humiliated regularly in the champions league and hasn’t won a league title since 2004“

    Yes, that’s what “You put a brilliant owner in charge and Wenger cannot perform as he did or he’d be gone”, means.

    Gold star for the guy who couldn’t make head nor tails of a colouring book.

    A brilliant owner changes the manager circa 2012 or whenever he felt the job was being underperformed at. Not when the top 4 gravy boat dried up. Again, a brilliant owner dispatches Emery within 7 days of our EL final trouncing.

    That’s the point with having it spot on from the top, it trickles down accordingly.

  37. Guns of Hackney

    Executive boxes will always be filled with some jack the lad on the toot with his mates who have banded together for a match and massage.

  38. Left testicle

    it could get embarrassing for him this year.
    ….

    With that moustache and syrup I don’t think Stan does embarrassment.

  39. Dissenter

    James.wood
    “How is that rumour progressing
    about the 32 Excecutive boxes not
    being sold as of about a week ago.”

    That’s not limited to Arsenal. I bet all the London clubs are facing the same squeeze.
    It’s related to the flight of financial services to continental Europe and Dublin, post Brexit.
    One of my close buddies who has access to an Executive box paid by an American bank had his entire division moved to Dublin. The bank didn’t renew the box.

  40. Dissenter

    Guns
    I don’t have buddies …and Brexit never happened.
    I’m Alice and you are the white fairy queen, lets continue pretending.

    Where do you think the exit of financial services will reflect on in ticket sales?

  41. Guns of Hackney

    By the way, it’s worth noting that Stan wouldn’t have got total control unless ALL shareholders sold…that includes anyone who had them.

    I’m pretty sure when that letter arrived offering £30,000 or whatever, those Arsenal die hards couldn’t wait to cash in.

    Soz. All about the fanbase.

  42. KAY Boss

    Rumors doing the rounds is that arsenal have offered £25m for Everyone Soares. Edu is said to be the key behind the deal. End to Zaha pursue?
    Also being reported that club medics are in Porto Alegre to close the deal.
    How true, can’t tell?

  43. TitsMcGee

    The only thing that will get any attention are half empty stadiums. Unfortunately the Arsenal crowd are not the “take a stand” type as has been clearly obvious the last 10 years or so.

    The stadium will be full come opening day.

  44. Guns of Hackney

    Dissenter

    Honestly, I don’t care mate. I’ve got mine and hopefully you have people you care about and that’s all that matters.

    Arsenal should be a fun thing…not the absolute trash show it is.

    As for Brexit. I’m livid we still haven’t left.

  45. Guns of Hackney

    Tits nails it.

    Dumb fans = Stan Kroenke.

    We are the new scousers. But they win things…so we’re actually a southern Newcastle.

  46. Receding Hairline

    With respect Pedro i will like to post certain parts of an article from Arsenal Truth….his take on this is dare i say interesting

    “Arsenal blogdom is up in arms #wecaredoyou. They’re fed up because the club has slid into perpetual mediocrity and are now complaining to owner Stan Kroenke. The mediocrity we see today is the same mediocrity we’ve been witnessing for over a decade, so it seems strange that supporters have finally decided enough is enough in 2019 after significant changes in personnel have been implemented in an attempt to arrest the slide.”

    Really what changed?? Why the outcry now of all times?? New CEO, New Technical Director (one of our own)

    “I pointed at the downwards trajectory of the club, but whilst Kroenke is the owner and ultimately responsible for the shambles it’s been reduced to, let’s not forget who wasted the huge resources at their disposal and put us in this position.

    Had Wenger and Gazidis made a success of the perfectly acceptable cash mountains they were enabled access to, I very much doubt anyone would give a toss about Kroenke’s £2m dividend, supposed lack of interest or “safe standing”. He entrusted individuals to run the business and they failed him, badly. Fortunately, those individuals have now left.”

    Wenger and Gazidis dug this hole we are in…anyone without a Wenger hurt can see that.

    “A new owner could put his hand in his pocket to a small extent, but not enough to make Arsenal competitive again assuming throwing money at the problem is the solution – a dubious solution considering three of this year’s Champions League semi-finalists achieved that through a self-sustaining model.”

    Liverpool and Dortmund are brought up as examples but the patience to get there seems to be lacking

    “They claim Kroenke’s approach to buying players looks uncoordinated and is lacking in strategy, yet a new board was only put in place one year ago and Edu was appointed technical director last week. How quick do they think change can be affected?”

    Guess he also needs help with a coloring book

    “So what’s all this really about? Just frustration it seems, albeit 10 years too late. Their rage should have been turned on Kroenke when it was obvious Wenger was seriously underperforming and there was £200m sitting in the bank doing nothing while the fraud lied through his teeth playing the Premier League vagrant.”

    “And if you’re going to protest, make it a better one than the Wenger Out protests that were largely ridiculed by the very same people that want Kroenke out now.”

    Does this guy know you personally Charles?? He seems to know you deep down for the hypocrite you are. You made fun of all Wenger out protests but now you want to be the head of Kroenke out.

  47. Guns of Hackney

    Remember the Simpsons bit where homer is Soloman?

    “Both men claim to own the pie”

    “Mmmnnn…execute both men. I’ll eat the pie”

    Stan doesn’t care.

  48. Champagne Charlie

    Receding

    Do you think citing someone that shares your POV is somehow going to convince me of fault mine?

    For every excerpt you posted there’s a more than reasonable rebuttal, the truth in this entire case is that you’re one of these guys that thinks time is a commodity all are owed and forever leans on that when any sort of questions are raised.

    ‘We’re in this mess because of a decade of W and G’ …….’why blame Stan’…

    ‘The new lot haven’t had time’…..’can’t blame stan’…..

    ‘Dortmund and Liverpool didn’t get there overnight, it took time’….’18 months isn’t time’..

    In short you’re full of shit.

  49. Champagne Charlie

    Receding

    I criticised the Wenger Out protests for the actuality of the protests – alluded to in your ‘hey guys look at this’ piece – they were embarrassing.

    I also disagreed with the angle of attack on the club as I felt Stan was getting a free pass in favour of targeting his front (Wenger).

    So yea, really hypocritical stuff. Get a dictionary in your hands when you’ve sussed the colouring book

  50. HighburyLegend

    Can’t believe that someone as smart as Pedro believe that “the club” give a toss of this blog…

  51. Pedro

    RH, a few things here.

    > Le Grove has been blogging about the decline for nearly 14 years, I don’t need a lesson in Stan, Wenger or Gazidis.
    > Moaning about fans uniting to do something is typical attention-seeking… everyone is going one way, I’ll write the hit piece about how they are all wrong
    > Arsenal Truth is a MEGA EKB. His cutting analysis has been replaced with the same blindness he accused AKBs of

  52. Receding Hairline

    “I also disagreed with the angle of attack on the club as I felt Stan was getting a free pass in favour of targeting his front (Wenger).”

    Why did Wenger agree to act as Stan’s “front”?? I thought he loved the club??

    If indeed he was a front for a man hell bent on destroying Arsenal then he deserved all the abuse he got.

  53. Pedro

    H&L, it is read by a lot of people at Arsenal. They pay attention like all businesses pay attention to the voices that surround their brand.

  54. Marko

    I can’t really dispute a lot of what arsenal truth says. The lack of patience and the sudden ferociousness of a certain type of fan who were largely silent for many years is just ironic. The hypocrisy is just too much.

  55. Guns of Hackney

    Why are we still discussing Arsene?

    For me, Arsenal and Arsene’s decline started in 2006 when we lost to Barca.

    We have not recovered.

  56. Receding Hairline

    > Le Grove has been blogging about the decline for nearly 14 years, I don’t need a lesson in Stan, Wenger or Gazidis.

    Nor was the post directed at you. You have been preaching with respect to Wenger for the better part of 8 years

    “> Moaning about fans uniting to do something is typical attention-seeking… everyone is going one way, I’ll write the hit piece about how they are all wrong”

    Don’ think he believes they are wrong, just wondering at the timing as am i. You wrote a piece just a few days ago talking about a 5 year plan when Edu was announced, is it five years later already??

    “> Arsenal Truth is a MEGA EKB. His cutting analysis has been replaced with the same blindness he accused AKBs of”

    Not once was Emery mentioned in that piece, Unai Emery is a nonentity when Arsenal’s problems are discussed. That you do not approve of that appointment does not do away with the fact time is needed to turn this ship around

  57. Marko

    Arsenal Truth is a MEGA EKB

    Nah he just doesn’t agree with you Pedro. A lot of people don’t that doesn’t mean that there exists fans of Emery out there. I actually didn’t like that blog years ago cause it was a bit extreme in the days of Wenger.

  58. Receding Hairline

    “The hypocrisy is just too much.”

    It’s astonishing and the only reason Champagne Charlie gets gets away with it is because he is Emery out. Pedro will have cause to call a few posters out on their hypocrisy when he has done away with Emery.

    Because guess what the new coach will need to turn this around…TIME

  59. Champagne Charlie

    “Emery is a non entity when Arsenal’s problems are discussed”

    LOL willing to bet there is an EKB handbook with rubbish like this printed

  60. gunnershabz

    Pedro

    do you think this petition will work, i have signed it

    but josh kroenke turning up in a RAMS shirt i guess that was the final nail in the coffin

    Arsenal touring america and this idiot still wears a Rams shirt, he cant even don the sexy adidas home top

  61. Receding Hairline

    “LOL willing to bet there is an EKB handbook with rubbish like this printed”

    EKB is not a thing, quit trying too hard. Emery is a nobody as far as our present situation is concerned, that he has failed to dramatically improve it does not mean he caused it. Arsenal did not become a poorly run club on May 23 2018.

  62. Grant Elkin

    Only step is stop attending matches and buy merchandise, unfortunately we all know this letter will fall on deaf ears. I stopped attending matches 10 years ago, and haven’t purchased any merchandise for 5 years. Sadly Arsenal is now just a portfolio filler, as SK once said he didn’t buy Arsenal to win trophies.

  63. Champagne Charlie

    Ahh yes, the old hypocrisy chestnut. Just like the ferocious bunch desperate for the club to aspire to loftier standards not being delivered by Wenger.

    Only for those standards to now need more time to erect than La Sagrada Familia

  64. Marko

    H&L, it is read by a lot of people at Arsenal.

    No disrespect intended but I can’t believe that’s true. Considering how long it took before Wenger left compared to the amount of time spent criticizing him I just can’t believe that the club is either aware of or care about reading this blog. That’s not condemnation of the blog it’s just that you know it’s a football club and this is a place where dickheads come to complain and occasionally talk right wing politics.

  65. OleGunner

    Marko,

    There may will be hypocrites now crowing and getting on Kroenke’s back but honestly at this point who cares.

    We need every fucker on the same page dopey idiot or not, in trying to get Kroenke to bloody pay attention to us and give us a fighting chance to actually compete for honours in the next few years.

    I’m exhausted at the inter-personal fans blame game with each other and who was woke the earliest. We are were we are now and HAVE to do something to get out of this hole man.

  66. Danny

    That letter is great and everything but if Emery would’ve beaten bloody Brighton we’d all be singing a different tune, we’d be in the Champions League and The Scum wouldn’t.
    Sack our useless manager!!

  67. CG

    PedRo

    “””H&L, it is read by a lot of people at Arsenal. They pay attention like all “”””””

    (They wont Like me ,then.)

    I have 4 messages for them – if they are reading this today.

    1.)””You are Bloody Clueless, Gormless, spineless, Useless and not Fit to be in your current position””

    2.)”” A.Ramsey has officially signed for Juventus today – our Lot gave him away for nowt- didn’t rate him””

    3). “”” for that decision alone- you should be ashamed of yourselves, eternally “”

    4)””” and the way you are treating Kos- is also shameful too. He has put his body on the Line for us.”””

    Loosers
    Scoundrels.
    & Traitors.

  68. Pedro

    Marko,

    It’s not really a point of disagreement. They read the blogs, they read mine, I speak to people directly from the club… it’s a fact.

    Can I get a manager fired on my own? No. But that doesn’t change the fact that fan opinion is important and the club pay attention.

  69. Marko

    LOL willing to bet there is an EKB handbook with rubbish like this printed

    Don’t you always bitch about pigeonholing people into groups or lists? I suppose it only applies to people of a certain group

  70. Guns of SF

    Soares makes sense. cheaper- younger , has a comrade in Edu and Gaby
    Bring them on- need some samba and style in the team

  71. Danny

    HighburyLegend
    July 15, 2019 16:01:57
    @Danny : no place left on Untold ??
    ——————————
    What is Untold?

  72. Alexanderhenry

    Excellent post Pedro

    Still, i’m not sure how you’re so offended about ‘shirt gate’ but were willing to give Stan a free pass over his EL final no show–a much worse offence.

    But anyway, as I predicted, with wenger gone there is no longer a buffer zone for Stan. His protective force field has evaporated.

    His negligence, incompetence and piss poor attitude is now out in the open for everyone to see.
    Blaming Raul, Emery and the rest doesn’t wash because they’ve only just arrived and the club’s transfer dealings are looking decidedly plus ca change.

    The ‘kroenke out/arsenal in crisis/permanent decline’ story will run and run and fans aren’t going to just carry on regardless.
    Why? Because this is The Arsenal, a legendary brand in world football.

    Arsenal news is big in a way that LA Rams news isn’t.
    Stan is about to find that out.

  73. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    I don’t view people in one of two groups like you. Receding has been EKB since day zero, it was also a pisstake comment off the back of what Pedro said a post prior.

    Good if you to fight that good fight though, staying on top of what others say whilst paying no mind to the noise you produce hour after hour

  74. gunnershabz

    i be happy with Everton Soares for £30m, i think he has good potential as well.

    kieran tierney, everton soares, defender and a doucoure in midfield i be happy

  75. Guns of SF

    Soares can use both feet. The video I posted showed that pretty clearly
    I say we go get him

    Tierney and him would improve us this season. We keep our defenders healthy and we might be ok… i just worry about not having a third striker in the event Laca or PEA go down

  76. Marko

    Pedro i just can’t believe that people at the club read a blog that has people like Don and CG filling it’s comments section on the daily with some pretty embarrassing and occasionally awful shit. They might be aware of the blog but I’d be shocked if they read or gave a shit honestly. And I mean this in the nicest way but a lot of the posts written wouldn’t be of the highest order shall we say. I’d love to know what your unique visitors stats are. That’s a thing right.

  77. Champagne Charlie

    Pedro

    Sorry, been busy rambling back and forth with other posters on the varied topics of today.

    But spot on with the article and kudos for aligning with the quest for more from Arsenal leads. Paints a very sobering picture of current affairs.

  78. Guns of Hackney

    Everton Soares.

    This doesn’t fill me with confidence.

    Is Emery watching YouTube show reels for his player selection?

    I love the way we’re carpet bombing our recruitment. Monday it’s a left back, Tuesday a winger, Wednesday a CB, Thursday an attacker…

    Arsenal are the tire kickers of the football world.

  79. MidwestGun

    Cesc-
    Yep… There is a small chance.. yet, still to save this transfer window.. Edu needs to be allowed the same financial freedom and wherewithal that we gave Sven last summer though. If this online petition can even accomplish that… it would be successful .. imo. Small steps and all.. Although as I said before most likely Stan is asking who is leaving to cut costs before he loosens up the dusty wallet. I hope the suits have an answer for him.. and please God let it be one of the Axis of Evil.. Ozil/Miki, Mustafi or Xhaka.

  80. Marko

    I don’t view people in one of two groups like you.

    Ah course you don’t man. Not everyday that’s for sure. Good man. Same dishonesty different day

  81. Receding Hairline

    “Don’ think he believes they are wrong, just wondering at the timing as am i. You wrote a piece just a few days ago talking about a 5 year plan when Edu was announced, is it five years later already?

    Pedro i will appreciate a response to this. Why now?? Why this urge by bloggers to get Stan out?? Don’t you see this as a transparent attempt to get him to hand the club more money?? To hand more money to the new regime many on here have said are not fit for purpose.

    I know you signed the petition so i will like to know what exactly the endgame is.

  82. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    I do wonder why you bother with half your comments, nobody cares about your assessment of other posters. You’re premium cuck, I’d get over yourself

  83. Receding Hairline

    “Yep… There is a small chance.. yet, still to save this transfer window.. Edu needs to be allowed the same financial freedom and wherewithal that we gave Sven last summer though. If this online petition can even accomplish that… it would be successful .. imo. ”

    So Midwest this is an attempt to get Stan to release his own funds for player purchases?? Has he stopped Raul and Edu from spending club generated funds?? Last summer Sven and Raul (it wasn’t just Sven in charge last summer between) spent money generated by the club, why is this summer different??

  84. HighburyLegend

    “Pedro i just can’t believe that people at the club read a blog that has people like Don and CG filling it’s comments section on the daily with some pretty embarrassing and occasionally awful shit. ”

    Exactly. And they have other things to do.

  85. Cesc Appeal

    MidWest

    I completely agree.

    Even if it produces a knee jerk response and Kroenke permits a generous summer spend.

    We’ve apparently matched the Spurs bid for Saliba today as well. Numerous South American sports accounts saying Arsenal are wrapping up a deal for Everton. Don’t know whether they are just copying each other.

    I wonder if the sentimental sedation that the incompetent geriatric caused over the fan base left Kroenke in a false sense of security over the last decade? Like these idiots don’t shout and riot about anything. I think he could be in for a shock this year.

    Kroenke really cares about the Rams, Kroenke Jr really cares about the Nuggets, neither care about the Rapids and neither seem to care about Arsenal outside of being a shiny asset.

    If things get bad for him I cannot think there won’t be a buyer for Arsenal and he can relocate the Nuggets with the money.

  86. Cesc Appeal

    This summer is different because our budget is pathetic and the market just carries on getting more and more ridiculous.

    On top of that we have 3 chances to make UCL football this year:

    1) Top 4
    2) Europa League
    3) 5th (which is a total bonus)

    One hit of UCL money could stabilize us for years to come…why on earth would you not give yourself the best shot at that by insisting that we can only have a net £40 Million spend…especially when anyone with a brain won’t touch our players unless we give them away.

    You could argue being financially conservative to the nth degree meant we got a lower class of manager in Emery as well (as much as I think he’s actually decent enough).

  87. Samesong

    Pedro out of interest what is your stance on this???

    JayJuly 15, 2019 08:11:42
    Un na
    Why do you pretend to be arsenal fan you muslim cunt?

  88. Receding Hairline

    So Midwest it’s all about the summer then?? Not really the decline as a football club but the fact the decline has led to us not having enough to spend. If we had money to spend Josh can wear whatever he wants??

  89. Dissenter

    Cesc
    I like your realism that is matched with cautious optimism.

    Like you, I prefer to wait until the end for window before head-banging.
    We have a proper team in place ironing out all these deals. Edu is in LA with Vinai , Raul and Emery. These people meet daily to review progress.
    They don’t looked panicked to me. Protracted negotiations may be the approach they choose to take. It’s a new team that have to earn their stripes.

    I

  90. Marko

    I do wonder why you bother with half your comments, nobody cares about your assessment of other posters. You’re premium cuck, I’d get over yourself

    Right back at ya mate. Anyway back to trying to make Receding’s life hell around here. Sub categorize him and make a stereotype about him all the while arguing that you don’t go looking for arguments. You’re this close to becoming self aware

  91. MidwestGun

    and clearly this summer is different… then last. haggling over few million… waiting until late into the tw to do anything.. not moving out anyone who wasn’t already retiring, hanging on to old-timers past their prime, desperately. Not addressing any needs so far.. las t summer we addressed all our long time needs …or tried to..Keeper and DM and CB. and we got business done in a timely manner. So it’s not just money, its the process. Although money is a problem as well obviously otherwise we would have already landed a few players.

    To me the EL final loss … completely jacked up this summer. But as Cesc said we can’t allow that to be the over-riding factor the loss of CL funds so if the fans can get Kroenke or the suits to save this summer then well… that’s a bonus.

  92. Dissenter

    I think our fan base it the most vulnerable to tabloid rumors on the universe.
    Months of reading rumors punctuated with ‘but the club has only 45 million to spend” has led to a full blown panic.

    Midwest
    You asked why this summer?
    Because the tabloids have done a good job on Arsenal fans. When you keep reading 45 million…after a while you erupt.

  93. MidwestGun

    So Midwest it’s all about the summer then??
    ________
    Receding … I have no idea what you are getting at so just spit it out already? I think I have made it fairly clear .. Kroenke is a sh.it owner and needs to go .. but I don’t think an online petition is going to accomplish that. so if it accomplishes something for now this summer then great.

  94. Batistuta

    As usual, fans bickering over who was right or who said it first or whatever else anonymous folks use to get themselves off rather than actually focusing on the main problem which is that we have horrible owners, who cares if it’s taken someone 100 years, what matters is the here and now.

    Jeez some of you actually get off on this whole arguments thing.

  95. Zacharse

    emery’s scouting plan is to identify players named after prem league clubs, that way he knows they’ll want to come to the prem. i think it’s a solid plan personally.

    let’s all hope the next prez of the usa brings back the estate tax and kroekne drops dead soon after. that might be the only way afc gets sold by KSE

  96. MidwestGun

    Jeez some of you actually get off on this whole arguments thing.
    ———

    Lol Bat… you have been here for awhile you should know that’s true.. Been here almost 7 years now… always been that way.. although we had much smarter trolls back then.

  97. Dissenter

    I don’t think Kroenke will spend any more money this summer than he intended because Pedro and Hugh Wizzy filled out an online petition.
    I do think that petition may galvanize the way we approach the future because now the Kroenkes know the spotlight is on them.

    I’m in the minority that believes the club has more cash at hand that can be used to kick-start any squad rebuild.

  98. Chitom

    The idea that there’s a group of EKB fans out there is pitiful.
    I’ve yet to meet , or read something posted from one on any forum.

    Most people realize he walked ( willingly) into a messy situation with clear instruction to cut cost and try to bring the club a few places up the table on a slim budget.
    As far as I can tell not a single fan who’s willing to sit back and watch Emery ‘s second ( and most likely his last) season in charge and not spew bile never wanted him specifically in the first place , and wouldn’t bet an eye if this was his last season.

    Again, the EKB is a phantasy cooked up by former AKB’s who suffer from PTSD and jilted Arteta boys.

  99. Dissenter

    Arsenal jet in representatives to sign Everton, doctors conducting medical in Brazil today – Express

    If you believe the express, then it’s not all doom and gloom in goonerland.

  100. Batistuta

    It’s 2019

    We have the highest season tickets in Europe

    We have little to no funds

    Fan apathy everywhere

    But let’s keep arguing about who’s right and wrong

  101. CG

    That Notorious Foto Yesterday in Summary.

    Raul and Vinny were showing their new “puppy” Edu to Josh K. ( note Edu’s cringe churning Grin)

    Hence the later media leaks – how the Top Brass were so impressed with the diligence of Edu- because he got on the flight despite his Brazilian commitments.

    No other major club in the land has this haphazard, unprofessional, dysfunctional and amateur set up.

    It’s a Foto that tell us all we need to Know

    It’s a Foto that tells us we are in for Turbulence on unimaginable scale.

    Within 18 months – none of them will be involved at The Club.( 100%Guaranteed)

  102. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    You’re on here talking about this poster or that trait whilst others are slinging football chat, on your bike.

    Receding might be a dim agitator from where I sit but he’s 1000 times what you offer up, and there’s actually football discussion/debate.

    You look for ways in to rehash boring arguments of no relevance just so you can feel accomplished for the day given you’re done by 11.

  103. Batistuta

    Mid-West

    It’s amazing yea, i mean a group have started something no matter how minimal to get the club to act properly considering the abysmal summer we’re having and some want to use the opportunity to remind us that we’re being hysterical or that the petitions won’t work or that Pedro is a Gazidis fan boy.

    It’s actually embarrassing really, I’m all for reasonable arguments but jeez man

  104. Dissenter

    It will be nice to have one full fledged Brazilian international in our camp, if all these rumors are true.

    It also means the Zaha pursuit is dead in the water.

  105. MidwestGun

    Oh Wow.. I just realized this Blog was founded in 2008.. had to check.. I might have been here for longer then 7 years… haha time sure does fly by.

  106. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    I will revert back to my last post on the previous thread. The Kroenke family
    are unlikely to react to supporter including those like my self who purchase annually season tickets.

    However, the club are recipients annually of over £110 million sponsorship funds from Adidas, Emirates and Rwanda and those funds should be invested
    in “improving” the team and not paying for obscure projects or expenses.

    All these sponsorship deals are time limited and UNLESS the club starts spending the money on the team and returning to Champions League I cannot see the sponsors renewing in two or three years time particularly if our directions is in a downward spiral.

    My view is that the club has a maximum of 18 months to put its house in order
    or THREE TRANSFER WINDOWS.

    Beyond that period I see a very bleak future for the club under current owners.

  107. Dissenter

    Batistuta
    The fact that people are arguning about everything shows that there’s no apathy at Arsenal.
    Anger…yes but not apathy.
    You are living proof that apathy does not exist, always whinging and moaning ;-0 🙂

  108. Batistuta

    Dissenter

    If you and that minority that believe we have enough cash to start a rebuild then why are we on the 15th of July without any signings?

    Does that maybe point to those in charge not having any clue or plan whatsoever as to what they’re actually doing?

    I mean seasons almost here, transfer window shuts soon as we barely have a defence or midfield worth talking about

  109. Receding Hairline

    Dissenter i have been keeping an eye on the Everton thing, most of the chatter on twitter are from wannabe ITK’s although the player has said he expects to be playing for someone else by the end of the week.

    The Cynic in me believes some are using the fact Edu just joined to push that rumor. Although i must confess i did not catch the COPA so i have little to say on him as a player. 23 is a good age though and he is Brazilian, if he does well you know PSG, Madrid and Barcelona will come sniffing

  110. Batistuta

    Dissenter

    Least my moaning and whinning is deserved seeing as we’re an absolute shambles at rye moment but according to you there’s nothing to complain about so as you were then

  111. MidwestGun

    Well… I guess I will be tuning in tonight to see who we start and what formation we try.. and see who is there. Wouldn’t mind seeing a bit of Martinelli since he is basically the only new face I haven’t seen play. Seems to enjoy playing on the left and cutting in on his right foot… but that’s all You tube scouting.

  112. Dissenter

    Batistuta
    There are different ways of negotiating stuff.
    Some people like to create chaos to negotiate effectively. This is the Sanllehi way. They are negotiating several deals at the same time not to give away how much they have. That’s just my take our “lack of” business.

    I’m not panicking as at July 15, maybe on July 31st if things remain the same then I will start self-flagellation.

  113. Marko

    there’s actually football discussion/debate.

    Like that time you recommended we go for Antonio Valencia? Those the kinds of debate you’re on about. Yeah I’m good.

  114. Zfree

    I’ll preface this by saying I’ve always liked Rondon and thought he was excellent last year. Sohere’s a crazy idea –

    Sell one of our strikers and bring in Salomon Rondon for £15M. Guy scored 11 goals for Newcastle last year. I think he’d have a handsom return playing for us, gives a bit of strength and nastiness to our side full of softies, and we would have an additional £50M or so to spend elsewhere.

  115. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    That’s about the 8th time you’re quoting (wrongly) a discussion about Antonio Valencia, you’re a broken record.

    Not sure who keeps putting 10p in you but here you are again with it.

  116. Guns of SF

    what really irked the fans is that in the winter window, we didnt get shit. Thats when the fans realized that we are broke or the brass are trying to pull one over us again… or something shady

    Now the summer is here and there is nothing to show for the minimal amount we have to spend. We should have done the deals in the first 2 weeks.

    But you know- overpaid team officials- no accountability

  117. MidwestGun

    I don’t know.. I really don’t try to overanalyze what some peoples position are on here.. you can tell who has an agenda or whatever. usually.

    For me… We are 150% in the situation we are in because of Wenger and Gazidis over the last 5 seasons or so… all you have to do is Read Swiss Ramble for factual proof.. Basically Gazidis held us down while Wenger Buggered us.

    The new regime is just trying to correct all the problems the beforementioned created.. And in my opinion are doing a pretty piss poor job of it so far based on last seasons ending results and EL final. ( a must win for quick turnaround.) and the last 2 transfer windows. However the reason they are struggling so much has a lot to do with Kroenke not giving a fuck..which has been a problem for since he got here. So any effort to get him out is welcomed and any positive results from that.. like getting him to crack the wallet or approve a financial loss for a few seasons.

    Any other narrative then that.. well then I just don’t believe in it and ill probably argue with you. 😀

  118. Dissenter

    Guns of SF
    “We should have done the deals in the first 2 weeks.”

    Is that another way of saying that we should have had enough money?

    Do recall how the Auba deal took forever to finish in Jan 2018?
    Turns out it was dependent on Giroud going to Chelsea and Michy Batshuayi agreeing to Dormund.
    Some of these deals aren’t as easy without a deep pocket.

  119. Marc

    “If you believe the express, then it’s not all doom and gloom in goonerland.”

    If you believe the Express you’ve got bigger problems than Arsenal’s dysfunctional management at the moment!

  120. Guns of SF

    not sure whats worse— Kroenke not communicating with fans or Ivan Bullshitting the fans.
    I guess its just the same thing.. BS either way

    I said it a month ago, the Kroenke out banners are already going up

  121. Dissenter

    Marc
    Didn’t you know Arsenal doctors are doing a groin examination for Everton Soares as we speak.
    The player will change his name to Arsenal Soares