Edu lands, here’s what he’s bringing to the party

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Well here he is, finally, the Technical Director sent from the gods to bestow glory upon ALL of North London (just the red part).

Edu was announced on the website, Raul S is apparently really chuffed.

“His arrival is the final and very important part of the jigsaw in our development of a new football infrastructure to take us forward. He will be working closely with Unai Emery and the first-team coaches, and will play a relevant role leading our football vision and ensuring we have – and follow – a solid philosophy through all our football activities.”

Amen to that Raul, now take yourself off to Brighton beach for the day and hand your phone over to the man with the best skincare regime this side of anywhere.

So what can we expect from Edu?

My guess? Not a lot to begin with. No doubt he has many ideas about where he wants to take the club, but I’d imagine he’ll spend the first 3 months watching what happens at Arsenal. He’ll likely go on a prolonged listening tour, see the bus driver do the team talk, watch training, speak to the people on the shop floor and take in the madness that has gripped the club over the last ten years.

He’ll move where the fires are hottest. I can’t imagine he’s going to come in and take over transfers, it’s too late in the game for him to really make an impact there, but I do think he’ll have some thoughts on who replaces Burgess and I’d imagine he’ll look to fill vacancies or gaps in our setup fairly quickly.

I’d be very interested to know how long he takes before he announces himself internally (‘here is what I’m doing’ type thing). When does the big vision presentation drop? How does he share it? Will Emery do the deck design? Who will he trust to implement his philosophy? What does his rollout plan look like? Where the fuck does he start?

I’d imagine he’ll start with the basics.

  • What is the objective I am going to be held accountable to?
  • How am I planning to achieve it?
  • What structures, processes and workflows need to be implemented to improve how we operate (I’d imagine the flow of information at a football club is immensely complicated and probably quite political in 2019, especially in our murky structure)
  • What type of people do I need to hire
  • Which people need to be upgraded
  • Can I start to build a player recruitment policy that thinks beyond one window, has a more specific view on profile (power and pace is something we’ve ignored for 5 years), operates in markets that aren’t highly saturated (Eastern Europe, where you at?!)

Year one you create a process, build your minimal viable product, turf out the dross, and bring in talent that’ll move you forward. Year two you upgrade talent again, maybe selling a big name to fund more bodies with high ceilings. Year three you should really be making an impact on your grand objective.

Year 5, get the fuck out of my club if you haven’t won the Champions League.

I know things rarely run as smoothly as the above, but get a plan in place and you at least have a chance. If you hire talented people that are innovative, ambitious and accountable they will drive the vision through. Arsenal already has a lot of those people at the club, I’m hoping Edu will empower them and unleash their potential.

The smartest thing about his signing is that he knows the club. This isn’t a clash of civilisations here. The man has N5 DNA and a past baked in an Arsenal at their absolute peak. He’ll command a special sort of respect and he won’t need to spend 6 months adapting to the language, club culture or the shabby weather.

I also think his philosophy will have Arsenal DNA at core. This isn’t a Monchi like character walking in the door with a used car salesman attitude to a big club, this is someone that’s just left Brazil in a winning position. Someone who helped Corinthians win big. A player that believes in the beautiful game Arsene Wenger lavished on the fans. The ideas he brings should thrill the fanbase, they should please the board and they will be exciting to any player wanting to join the club.

Listen to his prose.

“Arsenal has always had a special place in my heart and I’m thrilled to be returning to this great club in this new role. We have a strong squad and some very talented young players with fantastic people at every level. I’m looking forward to helping make a difference.”

This should be a very good signing. I’ve been told that not only is he a very nice guy, but he’s also an obsessive when it come to the game. He understands scouting, how to grow talent and he has a keen interest in the performance side of the game. Take note of Dick Law coming back into the media spotlight this week, the two men know each other and I’ve no doubt they’ve been sharing notes about Arsenal, so I’d imagine Edu has a pretty solid grounding on what to expect from Arsenal.

I would hope that big changes start to happen behind the scenes by December. We should expect exits. There are some very average people that cling onto jobs through elite arse kissing. There are people that have made it into the backroom team because of who they know, not what they know. There’s a lot of people that will be switching their LinkedIn profiles to ‘Open to Offers’ because they know a fraud-busting-axe-of-doom is heading their way. That’s a great thing because we’ve allowed stagnation and complacency at Arsenal for far too long.

The player recruitment side of things is going to be very interesting. Will Edu stick with Cagigao? Or will he find his own chief scout? I’m also interested to see what his plan of attack is going to be with players. There will be a strategy that emerges, but what sort? I hope it isn’t a Monchi style of churn and burn.

Edu is a man that’s spoken in detail about young players from around the world, that doesn’t strike me as the sort of person eyeing up Ever Banega type characters, that’d be an affront to the purist values I am PRAYING he has. I’m hoping he’ll have seen the success of other clubs that have emerged from the embers of financial fuckery and opt for identifying youth value in the market because our attempts at short term hits of experience have been utterly miserable. Let’s look at Dortmund, Liverpool, Spurs and Ajax for inspiration… not Mourinho’s Inter Milan.

Finally, how is he going to deal with the munch bunch we’ve struggled to move on? Has this summer simply lacked someone focused on exiting players… or is the issue we’re dealing with so bad, no one can fix it? I struggle to believe there’s ever a situation in business that doesn’t have a creative solution on offer, but we’ll see.

The big thing we all want to know is this: What are the ambitions of the club and how are we going to get there?

Hopefully, the answer is aggressive and specific.

No more talk of being ‘proud’ or the Gazidis led Arsenalisation of failure. Just get me to the exciting stuff, which is winning trophies with an aesthetic built to thrill.

I have a rep for getting pretty excited about all the backroom folk we hire in, however, it has to be said, this guy is the only one I’ve heard great things about across the board. Monchi was an egotistical wally, Sven wasn’t really interested in being present in London, Raul was too Barca for his own good… Edu, well, the rumblings have been far more hopeful. There are no guarantees, but this is Raul’s best move yet. I mean, kind of his only move, but hey, let’s keep things positive.

Edu is one of our own. He’s a footballing man. He’s paid his dues and delivered success wherever he’s been. This could be good.

The 5-year countdown to Premier League success starts now, I can’t wait to see where this goes, this is a BIG move for Arsenal. Hopefully, it delivers on the promise. x

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  1. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Nice post peter.

    Cautious but very promising.

    Having the right elder head to work wit the youth is important,

    Let’s see what happens give him n emery a chance to breed their idas.

    Where has welbeck ended up ?

  2. Guns of Brixton

    “The 5-year countdown to Premier League success starts now”

    Don’t you dare give me hope.

    We have had more false dawns than anyone

  3. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Why don’t we go for Sessegnon at 30m

    Better alternative To both Tierney n Zaha

    He could play either position …

  4. Ishola70

    Mariano from Real Madrid would be a decent bench striker for 18m but there are other more important areas to focus on if Lacazette is not going anywhere.

  5. Thomas

    “Let’s look at Dortmund, Liverpool, Spurs and Ajax for inspiration… not Mourinho’s Inter Milan.”

    ___

    You mean Mourinho’s Inter Milan who won the treble? Yeah probably not the best example to use.

  6. NorwegianGooner

    Potentially both a huge signing in Edu and a hugely important promotion in Freddie. This is the kind of moves I’ve wanted to see Arsenal try for a long time now.

    If we could move on some dross and sign a couple of promising players before the window shuts, I’m weirdly satisfied. Goes to show how far our standards have fallen as fans, but there you go.

    Mustafi, Elneny, Monreal, Jenkinson, Chambers – out

    Zaha, Saliba, Lemina, Tierney, Mavropanos(?) promotion – in

  7. NorwegianGooner

    Se should also blood the best youngsters properly. The likes of Nelson, Willock, Eddie, Saka, John Jules, Smith-Rowe. All very promising lads ripe for the league cup and the Europa League.

    Would be the stuff of dreams if a couple of them could take the full step. My bet is on Saka, Nelson and Jules.

  8. CG

    Wonderful, wonderful post.
    Full of passion,zest and exuberance.
    And it’s all Free!

    (And I will be back later- with my thoughts.)

    But in the meantime- I give thanks to PedRo for his continued diligence.

  9. HighburyLegend

    I don’t mind if we keep Chambers or Monreal, but the 3 stooges (Mustafi/Xhaka/Ozil) needs to be thrown as far as possible from our club.

  10. Ishola70

    Hernani has left Zenit St Petersburg for Parma.

    On loan to St Etienne last season.

    Overall deal for Parma 6m. Initial loan deal just under 1m.

    This is a player that would improve the Arsenal midfield.

    There are cheap deals out there.

    Erik Pulgar and now we see Hernani on the move.

  11. Chris

    Özil leaving is now like Wenger leaving. Only dare to believe when it is on Arsenal.com

    And still idiots like Pierre and all the deluded on Twitter still defend Özil and spend all day producing nice pretty colourful flow charts stating his apparent worth, when they simply fail to use their eyes and see that he is worthless.

  12. Receding Hairline

    Hernani

    Age 25, played for a bunch of Brazilian clubs then Zenith who sent him on loan to St Etienne before a 6m euro move to Parma. Must be some rough diamond to be operating at that level at age 25.

    How extensively have you watched him Ishola to make the statement “This is a player that would improve the Arsenal midfield.”

    Are you saying he is better than everyone we have at the club?? And if yes that is a pretty outrageous statement considering the players antecedents

    Again this idea anyone but the ones presently in red and white will improve us is FLAWED!!

  13. HighburyLegend

    “Year 5, get the fuck out of my club if you haven’t won the Champions League.”
    Stupid comment, all we want, as fans, is our pride being restored.

    “I’d imagine he’ll start with the basics.”
    What about “Kroenke out” ??

  14. Ishola70

    Because the Arsenal midfield is awful off the ball Receding.

    Arsenal is a team that has conceded 102 goals in two seasons and conceded 44 more goals than Spurs over three seasons. Awful. And the porous midfield is a part of these terrible stats.

    Doesn’t need a “star” player to come in Receding for DM. Not when that Arsenal midfield is poor off the ball.

    Just a player that has some sort of pace or mobility, has some sort of defensive nous along with passable technical qualities.

    Hernani has more than passable technical qualities, is rangy and gets around the pitch at a quick enough rate and is more defensively responsible than the present Arsenal midfield.

    Hernani is like Erick Pulgar. Not star players but would improve the midfield.

  15. Ishola70

    Hernani was brought from a Brazilian club by one of the biggest Russian clubs in Zenit.

    Zenit and CSKA Moscow are known to go in for Brazilian players and let’s not pretend they go in for absolute bums. They go in for players that are/were rated in Brazil.

  16. Receding Hairline

    “Hernani was brought from a Brazilian club by one of the biggest Russian clubs in Zenit.”

    Where in three years he made 23 appearances, was sent out on loan to mighty St Etienne and now sealed a 6m move to the powerhouse that is Parma. That a guy is faster than Xhaka does not a better footballer make him.

    This idea of we are not defensively responsible because we are only interested in baller’s isn’t true either because we don’t have any baller to begin with.

    “Just a player that has some sort of pace or mobility, has some sort of defensive nous along with passable technical qualities.”

    The above literally describes every footballer playing professional football, but in your mind Xhaka has none of the qualities above so anyone will do but him. What a messed up way to approach squad building. You are obsessed

  17. Bee

    @Ishola70July wilfred Ndidi might solve that problem. We don’t just need a defensive midfielder that knows only how to build play from the back. The main job of a DM is to protect the back 4 and xhaka doesn’t do that.

  18. Receding Hairline

    As for defensive nous yes we need better defenders, players with an interest in defending and who are better off the ball. This does not mean anybody who is not on our roaster presently qualifies …they do not.

  19. Dark Hei

    If Edu’s directing is anywhere as good as his football, we will be in for a treat.

    His only downside during his playing days were injuries.

  20. Dissenter

    Finally things are beginning to gel and a positive atmosphere is beginning to form.
    Saliba is done if you believe the tabloids
    Tierney’s deal appears to have gone too far for it not to happen. The Glaswegian lad is not going to skip a major London club and go to little Naples.
    Celtic can have their pick of either Emile Smith Rowe or Nkettiah on loan to facilitate the deal.

  21. Ishola70

    Receding

    Please tell us why Arsenal have conceded 102 goals over two seasons.

    Why is that?

    And what can be done to remedy that.

    There are more than enough Brazilian players that don’t work out when moving to Russia and it’s not just because of their lack of ability or worthiness. Some players find it more difficult than others with the culture change.

    Zenit, CSKA and Shakhtar do not sign bums from Brazil. Some go on to better things, others stall or it doesn’t work out for them. But at time of signing these are not bum players.

    Now tell us how Arsenal remedy this awful goals against record.

  22. Dissenter

    At this stage, everyone can see that Pierre’s obsession with Ozil is unhealthy and borders on pathological.
    Please show some compassion for Pierre. If you’re religious, light a candle for him

  23. Dream10

    Torreira is the primary DM. He’s been underwhelming for me. Ndidi would be an upgrade as a ball winner. Would try to sell Torreira this summer. Think he’s in for a rough second season.

    If we are to sell Xhaka, we need to sign a very good passer with mobility.

  24. Ishola70

    People need to get it into their heads that a position like DM does not require a “star” player.

    Not when this present Arsenal midfield is so poor off the ball.

  25. Vintage Gun

    “Wilfred Ndidi might solve that problem. ”

    I agree and have been very impressed with him. Good age also.
    I think Leicester wold ask for silly money for him though judging by their quoted fees for Maddison and Harry the Head.

  26. Dissenter

    I think the first stage of Edu’s work is two pronged
    Improve the quality of players in starting positions and look for academy players to provide back-up. It’s better to have a strong 14 players core and then youthful coverage – better than the shim sham nonsense we have in place now.
    Second act- work on improving the back-ups; remove the youthful players who who didn’t show promise with cheap foreign imports, maybe veterans.
    At this stage we shouldn’t have players with £25 million transfer value [like Chambers] providing back-up. We don’t have that luxury.

  27. Receding Hairline

    Manchester City have conceded 50 goals in the league in two seasons, they have accomplished footballers playing for them, no one whose only duty is to sit and be Conan the destroyer when they need to defend, players can be good both on and off the ball. No top team has a player who just defends then cedes possession to others to play.

  28. Elmo

    It really is scary when you think about the amounts we were over-bidding for players in the last years of the previous regime.

    Lemar for £92m (€100m) as confirmed by the Weng-man and Dick Law, compared to what Monaco were actually willing to sell him for £53m (the sale price to Atletico less than a year later).

    Mustafi had been sign-posted as available by Valencia for €25m (£21m) early in the summer of 2016. We passed, then came back later that window when we were desperate and paid the €41m (£34m) they demanded for a late transfer they couldn’t replace.

    It’s almost a good thing we’re skint now and been forced to start getting our house in order.

    It will be interesting if Dick Law writes a book.

    I like how Edu left before the move to the new stadium, so his last memories of the club were while we were still something at Highbury.

  29. Dissenter

    I see that many are beginning to realize the obvious fact that my knockers ignore when they rib me for my Leicester comments.
    Leicester have the largest collection of exciting young talent who are good enough to start for most top 6 teams not called city or Liverpool.
    The writer of this piece in the Telegraph didn’t talk to me I swear.
    “Rodgers’s squad is already the envy of many of those who finished above Leicester last season. The likes of Harry Maguire, Ben Chilwell, Kasper Schmeichel, James Maddison, Harvey Barnes, Wilfred Ndidi and Jamie Vardy would walk into most of those squads”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/07/06/brendan-rodgers-revolution-leicester-full-swing-growing-sense/

    Their transfer policy is done by someone working on a plan. They did get iheanacho wrong, maybe they listened to Bamford.

  30. Ishola70

    Receding

    Man City concede less goals because teams are shit scared of them offensively and they have spent billions and also they have a more defensively responsible midfield than Arsenal that can press the opposition further up. In fact the whole team can press better than Arsenal. They have one of the best coaches in the world.

    Forget Man City.

    How are Arsenal at this present time going to improve their horrible defensive record.

    And if you are tagging players like Pulgar and Hernani as just purely “destroyers” with no overall football acumen then you are just showing snobbery and have no idea about these players.

  31. Dissenter

    Ishola
    Hernani is a journeyman who has not shown promise anywhere.
    Notice that is transfer value seems to be cascading down with every move.
    He’s the last player you want to bring to Arsenal right now.

  32. Ishola70

    Dissenter

    As said before a “journeyman” as you tag them could actually improve this Arsenal midfield and give it more balance.

    Don’t always need a “star” player for a holding player/DM.

    It depends what this “journeyman” has to offer.

    Arsenal do not concede 102 goals over two seasons just because of Mustafi. One player. There are multiple problems with this team defensively.

  33. Dissenter

    Ishola
    I think we need to exercise caution not to bring in players that wouldn’t make us better. That would be change for the sake of change.
    I would rather promote Beilik for one season and see what he’s made of. If it works well fine, if not it’s an easy fix.
    I don’t want us to be stuck with Hernani for another 3-4 seasons. See how hard it is to move Elneny on..

  34. Batistuta

    Asides Leno, Auba, Laca and Torreira

    I’d say a majority of the Leicester 11 would walk into our team. They’re not just been mentioned to shit on Arsenal, they’re been mentioned because you can actually see the plan with what they’re trying to do over there.

    The Arsenal squad is full of shit players whom i can now see most are ready to give a pass so as not to be seen as saying anything bad about Arsenal.

  35. Ishola70

    Regarding cascading transfer fees for Hernani that is just not true.

    Zenit signed him for 7.5m and if Parma take him after loan it will be 6m. Hardly cascading.

    Obviously not big enough transfer fees is it. Not star player transfer fees lol.

    These players like Pulgar and Hernani are examples of players that can be brought and could improve this midfield defensivley and off the ball while not being hacks on the ball. Position of DM plenty are not big prices for this particular position. Depends on the player situation at his club at time of selling or how big the club is seen that is selling.

  36. Batistuta

    While I’m over the moon with Edu and the details for the Saliba deal, we need to get a move on players who actually help us immediately.

    We’re still crawling our way in the transfer window and we’re off to preseason already with only the 18yr old Brazilian the new face.

    Are we really about to go into the new season with Mustafi and co still stinking up the place?

    Can’t tell me we can’t find someone to take Mhikitryan who does have decent ish numbers?

    No links to anyone coming in midfield even after our best midfielder has left the club.

    Are we gonna see papa koss and wrestler Sokratis with old aged Monreal and error ridden Mustafi play huge roles again this season?

    What exactly is even the target for the new season? Another 5th place finish and all pur eggs in the Europa league basket?

  37. Receding Hairline

    Ishola the fact you get your excitement off clean sheets doesn’t mean that is all football is about.

    You suggested a 25 year old who has been getting worse with every move as a player that will “improve us”. Guess he did not “improve” St Etienne enough for them to shy away from a 6m euro transfer. The only other club who think he will improve them is Parma

    Gimme a break

  38. Batistuta

    Dissenter

    I’d have Ndidi alongside Torreira and just let our offensive players do their thing.

    Any combination without Xhaka would be a plus but not one with Guendozi constantly starting games as he’s not quite there yet

  39. Dissenter

    Ishola
    You may very well be right but it does feel bland to go through the pains of selling Elneny only to replace him with a Zenith reject.
    Sorry the first time I saw Hernâni , he looked like the the Brazilian Elneny.

  40. Batistuta

    I also share Ishola’s sentiments

    Where are the links to midfielder because we can obsess about wingers and defenders all we want, our midfield is actually very bad, was bad with Ramsey and now he’s gone.

    The El Neny to Bordeaux rumours are good, cut our losses and move on, should be doing same with most of our other shit players

  41. TT

    I’d say most of our problems this transfer window are down to not being able to offload the dross and the overpaid mercenaries. Not because of dithering.

    No one is going to buy Mustafi unless he drastically drops in wages and why should he?

    No one is going to buy Ozil period. Not unless he drops his wage demands by 2 thirds at least.

    No one in his right mind is going to buy Xhaka unless he drops his wage demands.

    The list goes on and on.

    We have completely fucked up on the pay structure at the club for the last 10 years at least and we are paying for that now and will again next summer albeit hopefully not to the same extent.

  42. Ishola70

    Receding

    Pulgar plays for Bologna.

    Are you saying that you would not consider a move for him because he plays for such a lowly club?

    Bologna are a Serie A club just like Parma are.

    You don’t know the details regarding St Etienne and his loan move there last season. There was no option to buy.

    What we do know is that a Serie A club has seen it worthwhile to take him on with an option to buy.

    Why the snobbery towards other clubs Receding? You would think Arsenal competing for Europa League three seasons running going into a fourth would reduce this snobbery but doesn’t seem to be the case with you.

    You still haven’t answered the question of how Arsenal remedy their awful defensive record.

  43. Uwot?

    Like the look of lemmy at Southampton who we’re linked with.but the 3 stooges have to be out of the door & soon….

  44. Leftsidesanch

    ‘Asides Leno, Auba, Laca and Torreira
    I’d say a majority of the Leicester 11 would walk into our team. They’re not just been mentioned to shit on Arsenal, they’re been mentioned because you can actually see the plan with what they’re trying to do over there.’

    I’d have Holding and Bellerin in there also.

    This has been going on for years even when Aston Villa threatened our status as a top 4 team. Last year it was Everton and West Ham and now it is Leicester.

  45. Leftsidesanch

    We’re going to have to come to terms with the likelihood that Ozil, Mikki, Mustafi and Xhaka will still be in this Arsenal side when the window closes next month.

  46. HighburyLegend

    “Please show some compassion for Pierre. If you’re religious, light a candle for him”

    At this point, he need an exorcist.

  47. Receding Hairline

    “You still haven’t answered the question of how Arsenal remedy their awful defensive record.”

    By buying better players, player on the up and who have demonstrated clearly they are better than what we have

    Not a 25 year old who only managed 23 appearances in three years at Zenith, then moved to St Etienne on loan, made 14 apps, then is going on another loan move to Parma. I mean what hidden qualities does he have that makes him move so under the radar??

    You still haven’t answered on how extensively you have watched him to proclaim him a player who will improve us.

    I have no snobbery towards any club, i just see a pattern with your recommended player, Mocking Arsenal for being a Europa league club is a lame comeback. You have not told me what attracted you to a club who have been playing open attacking football for 20 years under a manager who will not touch a pure destroyer with a pole.

  48. Batistuta

    Left

    Yea it’s wait and see with Holding but i was very impressed with him before his injury, Bellerin same i guess, let’s see what they look like when they get back.

    If Ozil and Mhiki and Xhaka are still here then i guess Emery does get another season where he’s just experimenting and shit because I can’t see us doing any better than last season with that lot still here

  49. Batistuta

    Also i hope all those who have made excuses as to why we haven’t shifted shit players are not out in force when the season starts blaming the manager for bad results when all he’s left with are same shit error prone players

  50. Ishola70

    Again Receding why refer to “destroyers”

    You really are a Wenger boy aren’t you.

    I was born into Arsenal FC.

    You were obviously drawn to Arsenal because of one man.

    I have said to you numerous times now that having a defensively responsible midfielder isn’t the end of the world and means the team have no flair.

    And really Receding if you go on about flair and great football this is not what we have seen from Emery so far but you like to defend him all the time. Do you really think Emery is going to bring really flair football and beautiful style to Arsenal? Wenger in his later years couldn’t even provide that in comparison to past teams.

    Again what needs to be done to remedy this terrible defensive record. Arsenal are nowhere near playing the beautiful game anymore so forget about that.

  51. CG

    It is off course- good to see men of Edu ‘ s calibre join Arsenal.He was a fabulous player. And I hope his mistakes of the past- are not repeated (fake passports etc)

    He is clearly a polished performer. (Mind you – anybody compared to emery looks an upgrade)

    But he will fail- as it stands

    And the reason he will fail- is because he is lower in the food chain than Raul.

    But If Stan appointed him and above Raul – and he was higher than Raul in the food chain than he probably would not fail.

    Scenario 1

    Edu wants Emery sacked because he believes his chameleon tactics are BS
    And Raul does not?

    What happens then?

    Scenario 2

    Who chooses Emery’ successor?
    Edu or Raul ?

    Scenario 3 ?

    Who chooses which players to buy and sell?

    Raul, Edu or emery?

    Edu’ s appointment would make so much more sense- if he either replaced Raul or emery

    And if he is as good as- people say-if he doesn’t fancy frontline coaching why cant he do Raul’s job?

    Every successful footballing operation in the history of the game has 1 (one man) in charge.

    Currently we have ????

    Far too many cooks- throw in the Chief Scout/The Loan manager/the contracts man/Big Per/ Forsythe?

    and we wonder- why our wage bill goes up!

    As it stands- like everything we do- Edu is set up to Fail.

    Its half baked- half arsed.

    Sounds a good idea- but unless he has complete autonomy- he might as well go back to Corinthians!

  52. Cesc Appeal

    Well the Fenerbahce dream was nice while it lasted.

    Basically we just have to accept because of his wages the festering turd will float around for another 2 years pretending to be a victim and to still be relevant.

  53. Ishola70

    Batistuta
    “Also i hope all those who have made excuses as to why we haven’t shifted shit players are not out in force when the season starts blaming the manager for bad results when all he’s left with are same shit error prone players”

    Not even a case of shifting them on with the midfield situation.

    As DM is not really seen as a star player position. A player could be brought in for a relatively reasonably priced fee and not even on really big wages and the problem player could be sat on the bench.

    Erick Pulgar the Chilean perfect example of that.

  54. Receding Hairline

    Ishola you can call me a Wenger boy all you like that does not distract from the fact that after turning your nose up all summer at player recommendations on here for lack of discipline, high fouls count etc your first real offering is a 25 year old journey man.

    You are yet to tell me what the attraction is with the player you just held up on an early Monday morning as someone who will improve us.

  55. Batistuta

    Ishola

    It’s why there’s this feeling that we’re not even trying or that those in charge aren’t aware of how bad we actually are especially I’m midfield…. Nice links to wingers and defenders but none for that gazing wide midfield that every team just seems to stroll past

  56. Leftsidesanch

    ‘If Ozil and Mhiki and Xhaka are still here then i guess Emery does get another season where he’s just experimenting and shit because I can’t see us doing any better than last season with that lot still here’

    Yes Bat, I’m convinced they will all still be here. There is radio silence on Mustafi, Mikki and Xhaka and Fener have just come out to say that they don’t have the financial capabilities to puruse Ozil. The best we can hope is that we strengthen in these areas so these players aren’t relied on for large (or any part) of the season.

  57. Receding Hairline

    Arm chair scouting irks me, it really does.

    For me to be able to make a proclamation that so and so will undeniably improve us you really have to watch that player for 20 games or more.

  58. Ishola70

    Yes I did Receding.

    I told you that he is mobile, rangy ,gets around the pitch, is very decent technically and has more defensive nous than present Arsenal midfielders.

    Hernani is just an example and is no longer on the market as he is moving to Serie A.

    Now for the umpteen time Receding please tell us how Arsenal remedy their awful defensive record.

  59. Marko

    That Fenerbache statement to me reads like they want it to happen and that talks have taken place but that they need Özil to accept less. Over to you fish out of water

  60. Dissenter

    Left side
    I think there’s a lot of Alice in wonderland thinking going on.
    We have to clear our books of these horrendous signings to make any semblance of progress. Which is why I’m not expecting much from the next two seasons.
    Maybe other clubs will slip up and give us a chance.

  61. Receding Hairline

    “I told you that he is mobile, rangy ,gets around the pitch, is very decent technically and has more defensive nous than present Arsenal midfielders.”

    How many games did you watch to come to this firm conclusion?? 5,10,20 have you been following his career since he was back home??

    “Now for the umpteen time Receding please tell us how Arsenal remedy their awful defensive record.”

    Answered that question a few posts ago, that you decided to ignore it in your haste to throw “Wenger boy” insults is your problem not mine. Wenger is an Arsenal legend no matter how it ended, your belief that calling someone a Wenger boy is an insult is silly sorry. At our best under him we played football a certain way and most Arsenal fans will love to go back to playing like that.

    Also this “my defense of Emery” stuff is just nonsense, asking for a man to get more than one season before judgement is passed is not defense.

    You are all over the place in defense of this journeyman you threw up as the 6m euro solution to all our problems. Having good defensive nous does not make you a good defender or player

  62. Receding Hairline

    “That Fenerbache statement to me reads like they want it to happen and that talks have taken place but that they need Özil to accept less. Over to you fish out of water”

    You are just hurting yourself with all this hoping. Ozil will be here next season, 99.9%

  63. CG

    Raul

    “”””””He has great experience and technical football knowledge and most importantly is a true Arsenal man. He understands the club and what we stand for to our MILLIONS of fans around the world.”””””

    But you do not have the courage of your convictions and call a press conference.

    So all our millions of fans -can find out – how The Edu appointment exactly works?

    Just bland press releases from both men. Sod the millions of fans- they can Suck it and See!

    Edu will be Rauls Shield.

    I guarantee- we will never ever see Raul do a press conference whilst he is at Arsenal.

    And thats why – he used the sentence

    ““His arrival is the final and very important part of the jigsaw “”

    Raul thinks he is on Easy Street from now on.
    Edu will be the fall guy for Emery and the mess they have created.

    Truth Hurts

  64. Dissenter

    Talking about defending better, that’s not going to happen when you have a lay leech as attacking midfielder.
    Watch Bernardo Silva track back and defend…then you won’t think the answer to our defensive woes is bringing in the likes of Hernani. We still don’t defend well from the front.

  65. Dissenter

    The only time a press conference is called for new non-paying staff is for a new manager. No backroom appointment is deserving of a press conference.

  66. Leftsidesanch

    Dissenter
    I’m definitely the glass half full type of person but it is much more than wishful thinking for Gunners to think that the usual suspects won’t be here next season. They all have two years on their deals (if i’m correct) except for Xhaka and I can see them all running down their deals before departing.

    We’re going to have to relegate them to bench status/strengthen in these areas if we are even thinking of entertaining the idea of next season being promising.

  67. Ishola70

    Receding

    You have been very vague in regards to Arsenal improving defensively. It’s a huge problem for the team as 102 goals against over two seasons testify to,

    What specific positions do you think need sorting out in regards to this poor defensive record and which individual players are responsible for this awful goals against record ?

  68. Leedsgunner

    We need up and coming young defensive players who are hungry to prove themselves. We have one on our books in Krystian Bielik . Why are we letting him go?

    I personally think he should be the natural understudy/competitor for Torreira… and we should give him the time to prove himself in Red and White.

  69. Marko

    Leicester have the largest collection of exciting young talent who are good enough to start for most top 6 teams not called city or Liverpool.

    That’s simply not the case. I think you’re basing it on Maguire exclusively but it’s not true.

    As for the hernani stuff who the fuck cares. Some 25 year old on loan to St Etienne from Zenit is about to join Parma…my god how can we just sit here and do nothing. We’ll rue the day that’s for sure (shakes fist in the air)

  70. Cesc Appeal

    If it’s Torreria, Xhaka, Ozil as our midfield we’re going to struggle regardless of anything else we do.

    That is a blackhole in the centre of your team the only player in that lot approaching a modern type of midfield player is Torreira and he struggled adapting to the EPL.

    Xhaka cannot cover ground and is prone to gaffs.

    Ozil will not cover ground and offers no physical presence or ball control.

    Our midfield is basically a downward slope for the opposition straight to our defense.

    Unless Guendouzi steps up massively, another youngster does or we make a purchase like Lemina who defies all expectations we’re going to struggle.

    We seriously might as well just look for wingers and a full back and try to be as pacey and lethal in attack as is possible. Make the UCL and have the money to start a refit properly.

  71. Marko

    You are just hurting yourself with all this hoping. Ozil will be here next season, 99.9%

    I wouldn’t be so sure about that. It’s clear from the statements that talks have taken place. Both clubs want a deal to happen it’s just about whether or not the googly eyed fuck takes a cut to leave

  72. Ishola70

    As others have said not keen on Bielik as DM.

    He needs to slow down a bit and show more restraint as a CB.

    Moving him to DM will only magnify his over eagerness and misjudgements. You could see him diving in too many times as DM.

    Action man player doesn’t always equal good player over time.

  73. HighburyLegend

    As long as Ozil is on the bench, as long as he plays only the Carambar Cup, why not after all ?? lol

  74. CG

    “”””No backroom appointment is deserving of a press conference.”””

    not right though- to all those millions of fans, Dissenter!

    After a year of Emerys Press conferences- I was looking forward to see how Edu would articulate his new role.

    How about some Positivism from the club!!??!!!
    If the club are Happy with Edu- Sell Edu!
    (He looks the part)

    Dropping bland Press releases is contemptuous to all those ‘millions’ of fans!

    We have waited a year for Edu- and he sneaks through The Back Door- like a dirty Old Milkman.

    Smacked of cowardice and a real lack of conviction from Raul!
    (no surprise there….)

  75. HighburyLegend

    And we can replace the 10 by the number of his wage…
    Ooopsss sorry, not enough room on the shirt.

  76. Leftsidesanch

    Marc, good shout.

    Mustafi and Mikki also need the same treatment, they need to be told that they won’t be heavily relied on this season.

    If we rock up with them 3 plus Xhaka in the starting XL next season – what is the point of next season?

  77. Spanishdave

    We have such a poor squad it’s difficult to know where to start.
    The back four has to have surgery . Kos and Monreal are finished so that’s the starting point.
    Our midfield is weak we need a strong ball winner and replacement for Bugeye.
    No hopes for top four next year it ain’t gonna happen.

  78. Ishola70

    Marko

    As someone who said he would jack it in next season if Xhaka is still around next season you seem very flippant about the midfield now.

    Hernani is just an example.

    The main point is that bringing in a defensively sound midfielder who is also capable enough technically can bring a better balance to the midfield. This is the case even if you don’t agree regarding Henani himself and there are players around that are affordable and don’t demand sky high wages for this particular position.

    Why aren’t the club in for Pulgar at 12m to try to rectify the obvious defensive weakness in midfield?

    Who gives a fuck eh?

  79. Marc

    As it currently stands I don’t think we’ll be moving on Ozil this summer – as much as I’d like to see it happen.

    I also think Xhaka for reasons beyond my comprehension is rated by the manager so he’ll be about this coming season.

    Now hopefully that does mean we can shift on Mustafi.

  80. Marko

    As someone who said he would jack it in next season if Xhaka is still around next season you seem very flippant about the midfield now.

    I said I’d take a step back from Arsenal and it’s looking like a good idea at the moment. How am I flippant though? I haven’t commented incessantly on the issue I guess that’s it. There’s ways to go about improving our midfield and signing up some lad who’s interesting Parma isn’t one of them.

  81. Receding Hairline

    Ishola teams defend as such a team

    If our so called attacking players quit turning over possession in dangerous areas of the pitch we will improve defensively

    If our players quit making stupid passes straight to the opposition when we are in attacking phases we will improve defensively

    Yes Individual errors by defender also play a part and we can do without that hence the calls for Mustafi to be replaced and to a lesser extent Kos who has made errors that can be attributed to ageing legs

    Granit Xhaka played all 34 Bundesliga matches in midfield for a Borrusia team that conceded 26 goals in the league, the second best defense in the Bundesliga that year, so attributing the fact we are a horrible team defensively to just him alone is fanciful.

    The manager also has some coaching to do, if he cannot come up with a system where we can be defensively more solid then we need a coach who can.

    Again defense is a team game, keep the ball, press from the front, have player who the opposition are terrified of giving space then you will not always be under pressure

  82. Elmo

    If we work from the basis that Day 0 for the new Arsenal will be 30th June 2021, the day Ozil / Mkhi / Mustafi / Jenks contracts will be off the books, then Saliba and Tierney are high potential signings for being able to step up at that point and become stars of the future.

    We’re realistically not doing anything special while we have the legacy junk hanging around, so the next 2 years should be spent assembling the pieces for a fresh push from the 2021/22 season. Get our house in order, part ways with Emery at the end of this season, and have the gaffer of the future in next summer, with one season to experiment prior to us really going for it from Day 0.

    Let’s get the pieces together.

  83. Marko

    I also think Xhaka for reasons beyond my comprehension is rated by the manager so he’ll be about this coming season.

    Ehhh I think it’s more no bids have been forthcoming more than anything with him. They probably (foolishly) think that he’s still passable as a CM and if he’s still here it’s not the end of the world but I’ve got no doubt whatsoever if Atletico or Inter had to of bid for him this summer that we would have accepted it to a point. I mean last summer we brought in two CM’s for about the same price that we paid for Xhaka and it improved us. Not significantly I’ll give you that

  84. Ishola70

    Marko

    Already said if you don’t agree regarding Hernani that’s fair enough.

    But what about Pulgar?

    This is a position in the team where you don’t need to spend big. This position is not star player position.

    Why are the club not looking like they will replace a midfielder who is so obviously defensively suspect in a team that concede far too many goals. Or at least have him sitting on his arse on the bench more.

    It’s not expense in this case. Not for a DM.

  85. Dissenter

    Ishola
    Most will agree that you’re a wee fixated on Xhaka
    You’ve heard that criticism before I think.
    Neither Hernani nor Pulgar is Better than Xhaka, this coming from one who can see all of Xhaka’s failings.

  86. Pedro

    RH, bit weird that you’d sit on a blog all day and decry armchair scouting. That’s the foundation of this comments section.

  87. Left testicle

    Arm chair scouting irks me, it really does. For me to be able to make a proclamation that so and so will undeniably improve us you really have to watch that player for 20 games or more.
    ____

    Receding,
    From your arm chair?

  88. Nelson

    I wonder how Edu can have any influence on how Emery wants to play the game. Up to now, we were trying to fill the gap and looking for affordable players. Do we have a vision of the style of football we want to play for next season and beyond? What happens if Edu wants to build the team for the future and Emery wants to patch up the current squad now.

  89. Marko

    Granit Xhaka played all 34 Bundesliga matches in midfield for a Borrusia team that conceded 26 goals in the league, the second best defense in the Bundesliga that year, so attributing the fact we are a horrible team defensively to just him alone is fanciful

    I think that season might have been an anomaly. They conceded 43 goals in the league the season before that 48 in his first season and in his final season they conceded 50 league goals a whopping 67 all comps. Ishola might be a bit obsessed with Xhaka but it absolutely can’t be denied that he’s such a hindrance defensively and that it’s no coincidence that since he’s joined us an already defensively suspect club that our numbers across the board have dropped even more. Can’t addressed the defensive problems unless you address players like him.

  90. Pedro

    Nelson, there will only be one winner there.

    Edu will define how we play, but likely not through Emery… it’ll be the next coach.

    He’ll also control who we comes in and out, though I’d imagine it’s too late to impact this summer.

  91. Nelson

    From Fenerbahce: “However, Fenerbahce does not have a proposal for Mesut Ozil. Under the current economic conditions, such a step is not possible for both parties.”

    Don’t waste you time dreaming.

  92. Ishola70

    Receding

    “Granit Xhaka played all 34 Bundesliga matches in midfield for a Borrusia team that conceded 26 goals in the league”

    He also played in a Borussia Moechengladbach team that conceded 50 goals in one season with him appearing most times and was the season he was in the Bundesliga team of the year.

    We have seen with our own eyes how much Xhaka can be an obvious weakness off the ball and defensively since he has arrived at Arsenal.

    Do you want us to give him the benefit of the doubt because of a one-off season with Moechengladbach? I mean season following on from that Gladbach concede 50 goals with him in the side.

    Does that one season over-ride the suspect defensive performances we have seen from Xhaka since he has been at Arsenal? And we are talking individually suspect defensive performances.

  93. Marko

    But what about Pulgar?

    I’d take him. Hey look we’re apparently looking at a midfielder so I’d wait to see what they have in mind for the position. It’s very possible that he could still join

  94. Pedro

    Bati, for sure. I think this season will be horrible.

    But at least the underpinnings of a better future start now.

    Edu seems the real deal, and this hire is all on Raul, so he’ll have to make it work.

  95. CG

    PedRo

    “””Edu will define how we play, but likely not through Emery…

    it’ll be the next coach.He’ll also control who we comes in and out, though I’d imagine it’s too late to impact this summer.”””

    Surely then – Edu should be manager!?

    if Edu has as much as power as you are saying- Who in their right mind would want to be our next coach post emery?

    he will be on a hiding to nothing?

  96. Ishola70

    Dissenter

    What are you going on about when you say Pulgar isn’t “better” than Xhaka?

    What does this midfield need that looks so porous in a team that concedes 102 goals over a season?

    Does Xhaka in the present Arsenal side make this team a good/great possession side? Does Granit Xhaka in this present Arsenal team make them good to watch?

    I’m genuinely interested in the last two questions.

  97. Dissenter

    Edu will never determine the way we play. That’s a manager’s responsibility. The manager is the one that bites the bullet when things go wrong on the field.
    If Edu wants to change his title. He can recommend himself like Dick Cheney famously did.

  98. CG

    Well said Diss

    “”””””Edu will never determine the way we play. That’s a manager’s responsibility. The manager is the one that bites the bullet when things go wrong on the field.”””””

    for instance- if we are playing too direct in the first half- does Edu come into the locker room at half time and give the team talk ( to play differently)?

    Preposterous!!!

  99. CG

    PedRo

    “”””Dissenter, he will dictate how the club plays, he’ll do that by who he hires.”””””

    But what if his hire choices differs to Raul?
    Who chooses?
    Who is numero uno?

  100. Ishola70

    Dissenter

    Xhaka is a defensive weakness right bang in front of the back four.

    How can he not be seen as a defensive problem for the side when we also see with our own eyes his defensive lapses.

    Arsenal will never be a top pressing team which is seen as so important now with the likes of Xhaka in there.

    I would like to ask again.

    Does the presence of Xhaka in this Arsenal side make them a top possession team?

    Does the presence of Xhaka make this present Arsenal team good to watch?

    If you can’t answer categorically yes to those questions why are Arsenal bothering continuing with him when he is such an obvious defensive weakness and a hindrance to an overall pressing side.

  101. CG

    Edu only works if he has complete control of Everything!

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    !
    Or this ends in acrimony and failure.

    100% guaranteed!

  102. Pedro

    Ish, hard to argue with those points. He’s always making mistakes, has no recovery pace, is extremely weak… a total liability that can pass real well.

  103. S Asoa

    GG
    We had a despot in Wenger
    The current pretender is
    R
    A
    U
    L
    all thanks to a pot of tepid tea called Kroenke
    So unless a Kroenke can recognise between grain and chaff , it will be Chaff Raul winning…and Arsenal losing out

  104. Marko

    A total anomaly in fact. At Basel they conceded 64 and 56 goals during his time there. At Arsenal it’s been 65, 73 and 71 goals conceded all comps. Fuck me that’s unbelievable. Why haven’t we ditched him yet and brought in better defenders. So that one season where Gladbach conceded 39 goals all comps was a one off every other season was 50/60/70+ conceded

  105. CG

    PedRo

    “””””CG, I suspect he and Raul are in lockstep about what they want, hence why he was hired.”””

    Despite the fact Edu was not his preferred choice.
    Monchi was.

    If Edu replaced Raul ( who is no longer needed)
    We have seen his Contacts Book , by now( its a myth)

    Edu could achieve things. Real things. Radical things.

    Until then – Raul will always have One Over on Edu! And it will be Raul dictating.
    ……calling the shots!

    And as you well know – Thats how the Real world Works!

  106. Marko

    Edu will never determine the way we play

    That’s not true. He’ll have an influence on the team going forward by targeting particular players and particular managers but mostly through recruitment. It’s probably why we’ve been linked with mostly wingers and attackers and not enough clear links with defenders

  107. CG

    S A

    “””GG
    We had a despot in Wenger
    The current pretender is
    R
    A
    U
    L”””

    Totally agree- At least Wenger faced 2 press conferences a week!

    Raul has never done one!

    Raul has actually much more power than Wenger even had!

    I am glad – you have observed this too!

  108. Marko

    In my mind I have had the following list for a long time: Ajax-Arsenal-Barcelona, ​​call it the Marc Overmars route.

    Frenkie De Jong what might have been

  109. David Smith

    Hopefully, a very exciting hire, even if he has his work cut out.
    Surely a vast improvement on the buffoons who had been allowed to hijack this club under the Wenger/Gazidis era

  110. CG

    Smudger

    “””””Surely a vast improvement on the buffoons who had been allowed to hijack this club under the Wenger/Gazidis era””””””

    Gazidas chose Raul
    Never ever forget That fact.
    Most like too on here…

    Raul was going to be sacked at Barca
    (Gazidas did him a favour- by employing him at Arsenal-mainly for his extensive CONTACTS!!)
    ………….hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha…………………………….hahaha

    And Gazidas judgement was always appalling!

    things were bad before granted- but they will get much worse from now on.

    Tick Tock

  111. Nelson

    That Raul decided to sign Saliba not for the coming season but for the future tells us something. If I were Emery, I wouldn’t feel comfortable with this arrangement.

  112. Marko

    That Raul decided to sign Saliba not for the coming season but for the future tells us something

    I agree. It’s good isn’t it. Forward progressive thinking and a long term goal in mind? Where have you been all my life

  113. Pierre

    Leg end
    “Pierre is defending Ozil on Twitter ??
    The guy really is a lost cause…”

    What’s Twitter?

  114. Ishola70

    Sid
    “Hernanini is the new filipe melo”

    He can’t be. Hernia hasn’t had anything like the hype of Melo lol