Edu lands, here’s what he’s bringing to the party

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Well here he is, finally, the Technical Director sent from the gods to bestow glory upon ALL of North London (just the red part).

Edu was announced on the website, Raul S is apparently really chuffed.

“His arrival is the final and very important part of the jigsaw in our development of a new football infrastructure to take us forward. He will be working closely with Unai Emery and the first-team coaches, and will play a relevant role leading our football vision and ensuring we have – and follow – a solid philosophy through all our football activities.”

Amen to that Raul, now take yourself off to Brighton beach for the day and hand your phone over to the man with the best skincare regime this side of anywhere.

So what can we expect from Edu?

My guess? Not a lot to begin with. No doubt he has many ideas about where he wants to take the club, but I’d imagine he’ll spend the first 3 months watching what happens at Arsenal. He’ll likely go on a prolonged listening tour, see the bus driver do the team talk, watch training, speak to the people on the shop floor and take in the madness that has gripped the club over the last ten years.

He’ll move where the fires are hottest. I can’t imagine he’s going to come in and take over transfers, it’s too late in the game for him to really make an impact there, but I do think he’ll have some thoughts on who replaces Burgess and I’d imagine he’ll look to fill vacancies or gaps in our setup fairly quickly.

I’d be very interested to know how long he takes before he announces himself internally (‘here is what I’m doing’ type thing). When does the big vision presentation drop? How does he share it? Will Emery do the deck design? Who will he trust to implement his philosophy? What does his rollout plan look like? Where the fuck does he start?

I’d imagine he’ll start with the basics.

  • What is the objective I am going to be held accountable to?
  • How am I planning to achieve it?
  • What structures, processes and workflows need to be implemented to improve how we operate (I’d imagine the flow of information at a football club is immensely complicated and probably quite political in 2019, especially in our murky structure)
  • What type of people do I need to hire
  • Which people need to be upgraded
  • Can I start to build a player recruitment policy that thinks beyond one window, has a more specific view on profile (power and pace is something we’ve ignored for 5 years), operates in markets that aren’t highly saturated (Eastern Europe, where you at?!)

Year one you create a process, build your minimal viable product, turf out the dross, and bring in talent that’ll move you forward. Year two you upgrade talent again, maybe selling a big name to fund more bodies with high ceilings. Year three you should really be making an impact on your grand objective.

Year 5, get the fuck out of my club if you haven’t won the Champions League.

I know things rarely run as smoothly as the above, but get a plan in place and you at least have a chance. If you hire talented people that are innovative, ambitious and accountable they will drive the vision through. Arsenal already has a lot of those people at the club, I’m hoping Edu will empower them and unleash their potential.

The smartest thing about his signing is that he knows the club. This isn’t a clash of civilisations here. The man has N5 DNA and a past baked in an Arsenal at their absolute peak. He’ll command a special sort of respect and he won’t need to spend 6 months adapting to the language, club culture or the shabby weather.

I also think his philosophy will have Arsenal DNA at core. This isn’t a Monchi like character walking in the door with a used car salesman attitude to a big club, this is someone that’s just left Brazil in a winning position. Someone who helped Corinthians win big. A player that believes in the beautiful game Arsene Wenger lavished on the fans. The ideas he brings should thrill the fanbase, they should please the board and they will be exciting to any player wanting to join the club.

Listen to his prose.

“Arsenal has always had a special place in my heart and I’m thrilled to be returning to this great club in this new role. We have a strong squad and some very talented young players with fantastic people at every level. I’m looking forward to helping make a difference.”

This should be a very good signing. I’ve been told that not only is he a very nice guy, but he’s also an obsessive when it come to the game. He understands scouting, how to grow talent and he has a keen interest in the performance side of the game. Take note of Dick Law coming back into the media spotlight this week, the two men know each other and I’ve no doubt they’ve been sharing notes about Arsenal, so I’d imagine Edu has a pretty solid grounding on what to expect from Arsenal.

I would hope that big changes start to happen behind the scenes by December. We should expect exits. There are some very average people that cling onto jobs through elite arse kissing. There are people that have made it into the backroom team because of who they know, not what they know. There’s a lot of people that will be switching their LinkedIn profiles to ‘Open to Offers’ because they know a fraud-busting-axe-of-doom is heading their way. That’s a great thing because we’ve allowed stagnation and complacency at Arsenal for far too long.

The player recruitment side of things is going to be very interesting. Will Edu stick with Cagigao? Or will he find his own chief scout? I’m also interested to see what his plan of attack is going to be with players. There will be a strategy that emerges, but what sort? I hope it isn’t a Monchi style of churn and burn.

Edu is a man that’s spoken in detail about young players from around the world, that doesn’t strike me as the sort of person eyeing up Ever Banega type characters, that’d be an affront to the purist values I am PRAYING he has. I’m hoping he’ll have seen the success of other clubs that have emerged from the embers of financial fuckery and opt for identifying youth value in the market because our attempts at short term hits of experience have been utterly miserable. Let’s look at Dortmund, Liverpool, Spurs and Ajax for inspiration… not Mourinho’s Inter Milan.

Finally, how is he going to deal with the munch bunch we’ve struggled to move on? Has this summer simply lacked someone focused on exiting players… or is the issue we’re dealing with so bad, no one can fix it? I struggle to believe there’s ever a situation in business that doesn’t have a creative solution on offer, but we’ll see.

The big thing we all want to know is this: What are the ambitions of the club and how are we going to get there?

Hopefully, the answer is aggressive and specific.

No more talk of being ‘proud’ or the Gazidis led Arsenalisation of failure. Just get me to the exciting stuff, which is winning trophies with an aesthetic built to thrill.

I have a rep for getting pretty excited about all the backroom folk we hire in, however, it has to be said, this guy is the only one I’ve heard great things about across the board. Monchi was an egotistical wally, Sven wasn’t really interested in being present in London, Raul was too Barca for his own good… Edu, well, the rumblings have been far more hopeful. There are no guarantees, but this is Raul’s best move yet. I mean, kind of his only move, but hey, let’s keep things positive.

Edu is one of our own. He’s a footballing man. He’s paid his dues and delivered success wherever he’s been. This could be good.

The 5-year countdown to Premier League success starts now, I can’t wait to see where this goes, this is a BIG move for Arsenal. Hopefully, it delivers on the promise. x

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  1. PessimisticPat

    Charlie

    The big problem there is keeping it under wraps. There have been reports in the press already about him having potential offers in france. The minute hes not on tour people know why. I have zero sympathy for Koscielny not wanting to go on the preseason tour. Till someone makes a bid, tough. If they want him we are entitled to ask for a fee. If he wants out, ask to be transfer listed. Neither has happened, but he asks for a free transfer, we say no and he refuses to go. Call it severance or whatever you want but he wants his cake and to eat it too. I have no sympathy for him and am glad that the club have done what theyve done.

  2. TR7

    Left

    ‘RH you know TR7 will oppose the general consensus of the blog always’

    Barely two people commented on Koss situation before I posted my take on it. Take of 2 people is not what you will call ‘consensus of the blog’. I find washing dirty linen in public distasteful irrespective of who is involved, nothing to do with ‘consensus of the blog’. What does this announcement achieve for us ? Absolutely nothing. Rather it makes us a butt of jokes and leaves a bad taste in the mouth of a long serving player. This episode doesn’t cover the new modern set up in any glory either.

  3. Marko

    There is an obligation to turn up for training but even the location has to be “ reasonable”

    There are no words. Would it be reasonable to expect a player to show up for a game in another country? How about a final in Azerbaijan is it reasonable to expect him to travel? Probably not

  4. Dream10

    Ishola & Paulinho

    Yep. Seeing Koscielny as a viable option in the XI is a big problem. Arsenal covering journalists have said the plan is to sell Mustafi and include Chambers in the Zaha deal. Ideal time to shift his 90k a week salary off the books. Incompetence all over.

  5. Ishola70

    PessimisticPat
    ” If he wants out, ask to be transfer listed”

    Well he’s officially on strike now.

    You would expect Arsenal to officially put him on the transfer list pronto wouldn’t you?

    No waiting for Kos to request that although what he has done amounts to the samr anyway.

  6. Dissenter

    CC thinks £2 million isn’t worth fighting for, probably makes that in a few days of day trading.

  7. gunnermjj

    I wonder if LK6 just doesn’t fancy a proper workload. He was injured last summer but likely heard how demanding / brutalising Emery’s pre-season training sessions are and just doesn’t back his body to get through it. For his many faults Emery does at least make players work for their money, unlike Arsene.

    No excusing this behaviour though – put in the transfer request and waive any remaining loyalty bonus due, and/or take a paycut from Bordeaux of £10-20k per week (over 3 yrs) so that they can pay a £1.5m – 3m fee (glossing over the fact that the club have not accepted any bids for him so he shouldn’t have been discussing terms with any clubs). If the club still refuses to sell you after that, then you go on strike like a good frenchie.

    Anyway, best to get shot now, and honestly his saying that he wanted to leave when/with Wenger raised alarm bells about his mental toughness, and his comments about not really wanting France to win (because he was injured) showed him to be a bitter little brat.

  8. Marko

    The best for all parties now is for Koscielny to leave this summer and for a minimal fee.

    Agreed a minimal fee and not for zero so that he can get the maximum amount in wages that he can get. This is what it’s about at the end of the day not that we’re being unreasonable or demanding that he stays we’re just refusing to tear up his contract so that he can get a bigger wage for nothing

  9. HighburyLegend

    “If only Mustafi, Xhaka & Ozil had refused to get on the plane!!!”

    Practising a bit of skydiving maybe ?? But without parachutes, of course.

  10. Marc

    “Don’t think it’s quite as clear cut regarding what obligations a player does or doesn’t have when it comes to tours.”

    What complete and utter bollocks. Part of a players contract will include engaging in commercial activities on the clubs behalf. That’s what a tour is.

  11. Moe

    If he refuses to honor aspects of his contract, then the club should similarly refuse to honor the weekly payments stipulated in his contract. Head to court, let’s see how he can win that case.

    What a fuckin prick.

  12. Dissenter

    I din’t understand why Arsenal typically try to keep players that want out.
    Koschielny has been trying to leave for a while now, they probably made a verbal assurance they would facilitate his exit this summer.
    The dude’s legs are gone, make it happen…and the get the rest of these fossilized players who think Arsenal owe them more than wage out.

  13. Marko

    It’s funny when you consider the same people criticising the club for not just letting Koscielny walk on a free are the same people criticising the club for not doing more to sell players with the purpose of adding to the meagre budget. Every little bit helps

  14. Nelson

    Now we are reading more information
    “Despite interest from Bordeaux and Lyon, Koscielny is needed by Emery, who point blank turned down the Frenchman’s request to be released from the final year of his contract in a shock meeting this week.”

    Emery wants to keep Kos, but Kos wants to leave. But why he didn’t do it the proper way and submit a transfer request and let the club do the negotiation. Now he is putting up a fight that he can’t win.

  15. PessimisticPat

    Ishola

    Actually it doesnt amount to the same thing. If he asks to be transfer listed he forsakes any loyalty payments owed to him. Hence why he wont do that. Its about money for him, plain and simple. As soon as he realised he wasnt being let go on a free hes gone on strike.

    I understand he wants to leave, but it isnt up to him how much for, that is still the clubs right to decide. And to ask to go for nothing and when thats refused instead of asking to be transfer listed he goes on strike, please. Fuck that guy.

  16. Leftsidesanch

    TR7,

    You can refer to my comments on the general consensus as much as you like, most people are in agreement that the club haven’t acted erroneously here as reflected in most comments generally on here today.

    Too much has been made of the new regime who quite frankly are proving to be nothing more than smoke and mirrors but in this case I’m not against them releasing this information publicly. Why should they have to feign an injury for a player under contract because that said player wants to leave on a free? It’s about time the top management stood up for themselves.

    We’re the ‘banter’ club as put by everybody but Kos has a huge part to play in today’s laughter. The same player a week ago says that we ‘play for the badge’ on the Adidas kit advert is now declining to join a pre-season tour because he wants to be released? The joke’s on him as much as it is on anybody else.

  17. Marc

    Dissenter

    If he wanted out so much why didn’t he request that his contract was torn up when he did his Achilles injury? It would’ve saved the club a considerable amount of money in wages

  18. Elmo

    The club are paying a player £90k per week, and want that player, the club captain, to attend an overseas tour.

    There’s no part of a player contract where it’s stated that where the player wants out and the club might be willing to sell with a transfer fee, that the player gets what amounts to paid time off to manage negotiations for his transfer: players have agents for a reason. A flight from the East Coast to the UK / France is 7 hours or less; it’s a painless red-eye flight.

    If someone is paying you good money, you do anything reasonable they tell you to do, and Arsenal’s demands of their player are completely reasonable. Absolutely embarrassing.

  19. Champagne Charlie

    Receding

    Playing the ‘as per contract’ line is precisely the level of embarrassment being dealt with here. He’s leaving, it’s been mooted for months on end, he’s spoken to other clubs because he knows he’s sellable this summer. This dance is amateur management. Nothing more.

    Marko
    You think Kos doesn’t have permission to negotiate a transfer? That’s cute.

    Pat
    I disagree, Kos has given us nearly a decade of total professionalism and performance. I think it’s poor from us to drag our feet and not indulge tbh.

  20. Marc

    Dissenter

    You do realise Emery just coaches the players he’s given. He’ll have an opinion on who he wants to keep / who he doesn’t but he doesn’t make those decisions.

    Arsene Wenger has left the building.

  21. Leftsidesanch

    And this is just another stain on us altogether, the real question is why is the squad travelling to the US so inadequate? Where is the movement inside and outside the squad?

    Our first game is in exactly a month.

  22. Champagne Charlie

    Dissenter

    2 mil isn’t worth the negative view we’re giving off, you think we look good here? We don’t. Could’ve been a hundred times cuter about it, but obviously the new guys running the show want to make statements that they think show their authority.

    Also, we spent more on Dennis Suarez so while you might be fully erect at 2 mil, Arsenal isn’t. Certainly not to the point of dragging Kos through the mud in his twilight. I fail to see any benefit of this fuss, just another negative headline to go with the total inactivity.

  23. Leedsgunner

    Kos is an employee, and by not travelling he most certainly broken the terms of his contract.

    Kos is at fault.

    No more no less… as for the club making it public, again Kos forced the club’s hand by not boarding the plane.

    I understand that he is looking out for himself but he is not some poverty stricken journeyman footballer. He is a multi millionaire many times over who had the good fortune of playing for one of the most generous clubs in world football when it comes to inconsistent and injury prone footballers.

    If Kos thinks he’s been hard done by ask him to add up all the weeks in which he was paid when he was ill or out of form. He has been compensated more than enough already.

    Tell Koscielny to get over himself.

  24. TR7

    Left

    A 34 year old injury ravaged footballer wants to go back to his own country perhaps because he feels his body can’t cope up with demands of EPL anymore and doesn’t want to get any injury scare on a meaningless pre-season tour before his mooted transfer is hardly sacrilegious.

  25. Ishola70

    Oh dear.

    As we were saying and hoping was not true.

    The club still see Koscielny as a worthy player. Or Emery does.

    Or is that article from an anti-Emerite?

    Hope so because otherwise that is a poor decision from Emery.

  26. James.wood

    Emery trying to keep Konch.
    Because all our other options are that poor.
    2 players trying to get fit again and the shambles that’s left.
    Holding months away and who’s to say he will be the same
    player.
    Bellerin the same .?

  27. Dream10

    Marc

    Emery isn’t the only decision maker, but he certainly has a say. He is the most knowledgeable football man at the club. Edu will have more say from August onwards

  28. Leftsidesanch

    TR7,

    The club are entitled to seek a fee for their captain, no matter how small. We’re not a charity case that owe it to him to let him leave on a free. Why doesn’t he put in a transfer request or buy out the remainder of his contract. There are other routes he could have taken, but I feel he left the club with little choice this afternoon.

  29. Marko

    You think Kos doesn’t have permission to negotiate a transfer? That’s cute.

    No offers apparently so how can he have permission from the club if there’s been no offers. I think you mean to say that he’s speaking to other clubs without our permission.

    Unsurprisingly both Nelson and dream are leaving out a key point to what’s being reported in that the club “had no intention of parting with their skipper unless a suitable offer arrived. As yet they have received no offers”

  30. Leftsidesanch

    If Emery is genuinely trying to keep Kos, then I really will wonder about this man. My belief in him is already on the wane.

    Let’s take a brief look at his five captains shall we:

    Kos – Injury stricken, past his best and now wants to leave on a free
    Ozil – Can’t be given away, minimal output from him over a season
    Petr Cech – Signed for Chelsea as SD, then played in the EL final against Chelsea who humiliated us
    Xhaka – see Ishola’s content for the last three years
    Aaron Ramsey – Walked out the door on a free to Juventus

  31. Marc

    I’ll say it again if Kos wants out that much why didn’t he go to the club and offer to buy out his contract?

    The ones on here who think we should let him walk for free seem to be the same people who put zero money in to the club as well.

  32. Guns of SF

    wow i just woke up to the Kos news.
    Let him go. Honestly, he is way to broken down, and preseaon is where morale, and enthusiasm and team building need to happen. No need to take a bad apple with us.
    Sell him. He will not last more than 15 games before another leg injury of some sort
    Thought he was more classy than this, but then again, this is the modern footballer.

    Bring in Mavro-

  33. terraloon

    Receding

    If there was any contractural obligation pretty sure that there would be a two week fine. Will be interesting to see if that happens.

  34. Leedsgunner

    There are more diplomatic ways of going about things and refusing to perform the job you are paid to do because you think your present employer owes you in some way… so that you can have one last comfortable hurrah into retirement is not it.

  35. Champagne Charlie

    Didn’t see too many complaining at Aubameyang kicking up fuss to get a move to us, and sure I’ve seen numerous call for Zaha to get cunty, again to see a move to us.

    But no, Koscielny is a complete cunt for wanting a return to France at 34 years old after giving us 9 years. As I said, it’s complete mismanagement and Emery can get included of that report is true.

    The club should be honouring players who give us the best years of their career with gestures of good will. Not kicking up fuss because their inept management has us looking for money down the back of the sofa.

  36. Guns of SF

    window is closing- so Kos is trying to really get out of the club.
    What does that say?
    Sell him for what we can get…
    Use that money to close the deal for Tierney…

    Sokratis, Mavro, Holding, Tierney, Bellerin, Monreal, AMN, Chambers

    We have defenders

  37. CG

    Kos would have gone on that plane if:

    Klopp
    Poch
    Pep
    Wenger
    Jose
    Rafa

    Was his manager.

    1)Borehamwood 3 Arsenal 3
    2)Captain refuses to travel to tour

    AND ITS ONLY JULY!

    Season From Hell has started in earnest…..
    Batten down the Hatches!
    It will be carnage! ……think 1945 Hiroshima Hydrogen bomb and some more.

    Emery might not even make the start of the season.

    We have some juggernaut teams on the horizon pre- season.

    maybe the players think – they can get him out before Newcastle!!!?

    T.T.

  38. Marc

    If the club now buckle and let Kos go for free how quickly will the usual suspects be slagging off the management of the club for letting a valuable asset- our best CD after all – leave on a free?

  39. useroz

    Captain or not, Kos is a disgrace,

    His antics need to be severely dealt with, or other players wouldn’t mind kos-ing the club anytime they wish.

    Bad form. Yeah, Wenger would have ‘granted’ his baby the wish…

    Also shows how lame the club has become.

    Time to be decisive and show what the new cohort stands for.

  40. Marc

    “think 1945 Hiroshima Hydrogen bomb and some more.”

    Retard – the Hiroshima bomb was a fission weapon not a fusion bomb.

  41. Guns of Hackney

    I can’t believe we actually give a f about Kos. One of our most overrated players ever. A poor defender who was a bit of an own goal merchant. Poor positional play which resulted in slide tackles, which by the way is not great defending, its retrieving a mistake. A weak captain. He had a bit of pace and some aggression. But this is not a great we’re talking about.

    He should be sacked.

    9 years? So what. This joker was a ligue 2 nobody before Arsenal made him rich.

    I am sick of Arsenal rolling over for these twonks.

  42. CG

    CHA CHA

    Here Here
    Magnificently put.

    “””””Pathetic management from the suits yet again. Another slow clap for the new regime managing to utterly cunt themselves this window.

    The club should be honouring players who give us the best years of their career with gestures of good will. Not kicking up fuss because their inept management has us looking for money down the back of the sofa.””””””

  43. Leedsgunner

    Suspend Koscielny without pay and fine him a year’s wages, and tell him the fine needs to be paid in full before he leaves the club.

    Plus the club should donate Koscielny’s wages to a grassroots football charity so some good can come out of this mess.

  44. Marko

    Didn’t see too many complaining at Aubameyang kicking up fuss to get a move to us, and sure I’ve seen numerous call for Zaha to get cunty, again to see a move to us

    Charlie quick question is there something wrong with you? Honest question cause it’s pretty fucking obvious the reason we didn’t give a shit when Aubameyang refused to train or if Zaha does similar and it’s because we’re not Dortmund or Palace fans. By all means if Auba refuses to go on tour next summer opinions on him will change I’ve no doubt. Very weird stance to take on this one I think. I wonder if it was say a different player under a different manager would you feel the same way. I have my doubts.

  45. Champagne Charlie

    “If the club now buckle and let Kos go for free how quickly will the usual suspects be slagging off the management of the club for letting a valuable asset- our best CD after all – leave on a free?“

    How much would we get for Kos exactly? He’s in his final year on what a week? His contract can only be worth about 5 mil.

  46. Ishola70

    Marc

    “slagging off the management of the club for letting a valuable asset- our best CD after all – leave on a free?”

    For one he is not a valuable asset.

    For another he is now as dodgy as any Arsenal defender by and large.

  47. PessimisticPat

    Charlie, fair enough mate. Agree to disagree.

    I am entirely in agreement with what you said earlier about the suits at the club though. I have zero confidence in them to deliver any sort of transfer business of note. This Zaha business smacks to me of being able to say “we tried” come deadline day. After that i’ll be waiting for the “Edu needs 2 windows to make his mark” comments to come out lol.
    Transfers can be done in days, there just needs to be the will to do it and the actual brainpower to negotiate a deal. We have 4 weeks to get all our business done. I am not hopeful.
    Added on to that i have very little confidence in Emery after the end to last season
    My moniker seems ever more appropriate.

  48. Marko

    As I said before do more to sell players but not this player let him go for free. Just cause. Consistency

  49. Nelson

    Danny

    All the players participating in games in the Summer are given extended leave. Torr will also join later.

  50. Marko

    The club should be honouring players who give us the best years of their career with gestures of good will.

    And player’s here 9 years should…yes that’s right go on strike when they don’t get what they want

  51. Receding Hairline

    Wow

    a player walks up to his employer and asks for his contract to be cancelled, not because he is retiring but because he wants to sign a three year deal with another football club ( i assume he will be going on tour etc with this new club)

    Club refuse, player effectively goes no strike, club releases a statement (intended for the club offering him a deal behind the club’s back no less) to clear up why the club captain has not gone on tour

    Some select Posters (they hate the new regime) are up in arms, the club has been disgraced, a long serving player (was he playing for free all these years?) etc

    Not surprising that these are the same posters who want Kroenke to hand money to the club to buy players, his own personal money no less, I wonder how he will be motivated to do that if we are letting club assets walk away for free to play for other clubs, shocker that he isn’t keen to investing yet

  52. Marko

    His contract can only be worth about 5 mil

    Yeah that 5 million could go towards a loan fee for Malcom or Cabellos. Well within our right to look for something instead of nothing. As I said every little bit helps

  53. Champagne Charlie

    “This Zaha business smacks to me of being able to say “we tried” come deadline day.“

    I have to agree there Pat, getting a bit concerned at how it’s dragging. Felt for it to come to fruition we’d see a lot more posturing from all parties. Looking a bit bleak now eh?

    Marko
    Yea mate, talk consistency whilst you’re foaming at Kos for wanting a move and wanting Zaha to kick up a fuss. You legend.

    How valuable is Kos again? Did we land on a figure?

  54. Leedsgunner

    “The club should be honouring players who give us the best years of their career with gestures of good will.”

    Heck, if we’re going down that route why not stop at Koscelny? Why not invite RvP, Cesc, Ashley Cole, and Nasri and Adebeyor and give them a nice gesture of good will?!? After all didn’t they give us the best years of their careers?

    Ticker tape parade for Gazidas and Wenger anyone?

    No one is bigger than the club… not Koscelny… not anyone.

  55. Marko

    Yea mate, talk consistency whilst you’re foaming at Kos for wanting a move and wanting Zaha to kick up a fuss. You legend

    Well I never said that I wanted him to refuse to do anything at Palace I was pointing out that it’s hardly the same given we’re not Dortmund or Palace fans so why should we seem like hypocrites for being upset with Koscielny’s behavior

    How valuable is Kos again? Did we land on a figure?

    You said 5 million. Wait did you pull that one from your ass? Well I never

  56. Guns of Hackney

    Leeds

    It appears everyone currently is bigger than Arsenal.

    We’re being made to look like part time prats by the players.

    Humiliating.

  57. Champagne Charlie

    “You said 5 million. Wait did you pull that one from your ass? Well I never“

    Or it’s the value of his 12 month contract remaining at the club, as stated…

  58. Marc

    “We’re being made to look like part time prats by the players. ”

    All the more reason to draw a line in the sand and enforce the players contract.

  59. Guns of Hackney

    Marc

    Couldn’t agree more.

    For me, any player that signs a contract either

    A. Honours it.
    B. Is sold with both parties agreeing.
    C. Buys himself out.

    Simple. If Kos wants out, let him pay Arsenal compensation.

  60. Marko

    Or it’s the value of his 12 month contract remaining at the club, as stated…

    Point being the 5 million could help out with the meagre transfer budget but you want to let him go for free because what was it he kicked up a fuss? He was here 9 years? Oh it’s a classy move to bend over that was it

  61. Freddie Ljungberg

    We’re linked to Cedric Soares at right back, not a superstar name by any means but we need someone that can fill in at RB and with 1 year left and Southampton willing to sell that 5m for Kos could go a long way in filling a position of need.

    Or we could just give in to the player, let him have his payday and go begging to Kroenke for the money…

  62. TR7

    ‘All the more reason to draw a line in the sand and enforce the players contract.’

    So what we will get out of enforcing contract – 12 months of quality performance ? No, we will paying wages for a player who doesn’t want to be at AFC and it will most likely show in his performance.

  63. Marc

    A question to all those who think we should let Kos leave on a free –

    Alderweireld also only has one year left on his contract should the Spud’s let him go for free?

  64. Guns of Hackney

    Marc

    Nah. The club, it’s fans and the maniacs who post on here (I’m a prime example) are in disarray.

    We’re absolutely rudderless. As for Edu, I don’t really see what the fuss is about. Give it a few months and he’ll be towing the company line.

  65. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    Fanning the imaginary flames as usual.

    I’ve not mentioned letting him go for nothing, I just don’t think the club has handled the fact he’s agitating for a move back to France well. Keep him home, talk up an injury, negotiate in the quiet, get him off the wages.

    Also, Sergio Ramos and Koscielny getting compared in their current states. Seems reasonable, one definitely isn’t 34, off Achilles surgery, and regularly lambasted by sections of the fan base for being shite vs treble CL winning Ramos of Real Madrid who you just spent a week talking up.

    Apples to apples though.

  66. Marc

    TR7

    It has nothing to do with Kos anymore. He’s finished with us – its about sending a signal to other players that there’s a line you don’t cross.

  67. Receding Hairline

    “So what we will get out of enforcing contract – 12 months of quality performance ? No, we will paying wages for a player who doesn’t want to be at AFC and it will most likely show in his performance.”

    Who says he has to play??

    who says he gets to stay??

    If he leaves, he leaves on the club’s terms, that is the message

    You seem more concerned with Koscielny’s feelings than the bad precedent his actions will set if allowed to slide

    Wonder why Madrid did not allow 33 year old Ramos move to China on a free when he agitated for it,

  68. Marko

    So what we will get out of enforcing contract

    Is that what’s being said? I don’t think I’ve seen a single comment talk about keeping him for another season instead it’s about his cuntish actions and wanting to get something for him either through a transfer fee or him buying out his contract.

  69. Guns of Hackney

    Imagine George Graham’s reaction to someone like Kos. Ha ha. Or Ferguson?

    Emery will probably pay him his contract and then drive him back to France.

  70. TR7

    Marc

    By the way my point is solely about putting the stuff on dotcom. Arsenal could make Koss do everything they want him to do without making things public.

  71. Guns of Hackney

    If Kos does this, 100% twats like Auba and Laca will too.

    Kos must be skinned, hung up and have salt poured onto him.

    Imagine if I was in charge of punishing criminals.

  72. Receding Hairline

    “By the way my point is solely about putting the stuff on dotcom. Arsenal could make Koss do everything they want him to do without making things public.”

    So you no longer want openness and accountability??

    Weren’t you one of those who would like transfer negotiations streamed live on the dot.com??

  73. Marc

    TR7

    I’m guessing the club were expecting it to be leaked – we’d then look like we were trying to cover it up.

    It might just be a case of the club growing some balls.

    I can’t remember but when Campbell left didn’t the club agree he could go on a free as he was looking to move abroad – he then went and signed for Portsmouth.

  74. Guns of Hackney

    This is what happens to a club when money takes president over success.

    Back in the day, Kos would have rotted in the reserves. Now, a spreadsheet will tell Arsenal if it’s ‘financially viable’ to lose him.

    AFC are a clown college.

  75. TR7

    RH

    ‘Weren’t you one of those who would like transfer negotiations streamed live on the dot.com??’

    Don’t manufacture stuff in your zeal to throw a barb.

  76. Marko

    I just don’t think the club has handled the fact he’s agitating for a move back to France well.

    How do you think PSG handled Neymar not turning up at the club? Not good? Probably should have let him walk all over them? Yeah probably.

    Also, Sergio Ramos and Koscielny getting compared in their current states. Seems reasonable

    I thought it was very reasonable yes. Both in their 30’s and declining and bought wanting to cancel their contracts so that they could get lucrative ones elsewhere and both Madrid and Arsenal refused to let their captains leave for free. Difference between both scenarios is one player totally turned out to be a cunt while the other one is acting professionally

  77. Receding Hairline

    “Don’t manufacture stuff in your zeal to throw a barb.”

    There was a question mark at the end of that.

    A response would be Yes or No, nothing was manufactured. We had posters here demanding the club keep them in the loop with regards to outgoings and incoming.

  78. Guns of Hackney

    Marc

    Are you insane? Me?

    I would have every criminal in prison forcibly experimented on for medicine, products and weapon testing. Why should a poor rabbit have soap pushed into its eyes?

    I can assure you, crime would cease within six months.

  79. Champagne Charlie

    Marko continues with the brilliant comparisons, next up comparing Koscielny with Neymar 😂

    Yea mate, and Sergio Ramos is in the same physical state as Laurent Koscielny. It’s the same, all your comparisons are the same. Genius you are

  80. Marko

    I can’t remember but when Campbell left didn’t the club agree he could go on a free as he was looking to move abroad – he then went and signed for Portsmouth

    I can’t remember Campbell threatening to down tools or refusing to show up for whatever. There’s ways of doing things and refusing to go on tour because a club refuses your demand is unacceptable.

  81. Marc

    Marko

    No but Campbell got a release under false pretences, the club should have said if you’re going to stay in the PL we want a fee.

  82. Marko

    Charlie your counter points are always on point. Yes I believe that a 33 year old declining CB from Real Madrid looking to tear up his contract so he can get a lucrative deal in China is comparable to a 33 year old declining CB from Arsenal looking to tear up his contract so that he can get a lucrative deal in France. It’s pretty simple even you could get it.

  83. Receding Hairline

    Koscielny is in such a bad physical state two French clubs are offering him contracts.

    Jeez

    So because he has had injuries, and was paid in full by the club through out his time out injured (there was never a time he decided that since he has been paid for years he should forego payment for the time he was injured) , he should now be allowed to cancel a contract and just walk away

    That is what he wants, an outright cancellation so he can then sign for someone else, maybe Charles should inform these clubs looking to sign him he is in no state to play football

  84. Receding Hairline

    “Koscielny wants to return to his homeland France and feels that Arsenal should release him from his contract as a goodwill gesture for showing loyalty to the club since he joined in 2010.”

    From the metro

    Loyalty to the club??

    Have we ever denied him a big money transfer to a bigger club i am not aware of??

  85. Rambo Ramsey

    Hapless Arsenal management who are embarrassing themselves in the transfer market showing their ‘might’ by shaming a player that’s given 10 years to the club.

    I can see exactly what’s going on here.

  86. HighburyLegend

    “I hope Ozil downs tools too so that we can cancel his contract.”

    I hope to win the lottery this weekend.

  87. Dissenter

    I absolutely believe that the club should release Koschielny from his contract, not because of loyalty but because he’s been shit for a while.
    That said, his release cannot be for free because we picked him up from ligue 2 and have put up with his injuries and occasional brain-farts that even cost us a trophy.
    No one should be stopping him from leaving, some reports weree that Emery wanted one season from him and he kicked up a storm.
    He can leave so long as the receiving club is ready to pay a fee for him- it can be reported as “undisclosed fee”.
    Loyalty cuts both ways- he should have acted like the club means something to him not behave like a prick.
    I’m glad Arsenal is behaving like a proper club. We used to avoid confrontation at all cost. Now it’s different.

  88. Valentin

    Koscielny was told that Arsenal would let him leave so there is no need for him to activate the Webster clause. Webster clause allows older players in their latter year or contract to buy themselves at the price of their salary.
    Club waits until the end of the time where he can exercise the Webster clause to inform him that now Arsenal want twice as much money than the Webster clause entitled them to.
    So basically they have shafted him. No surprise that he is furious and wants out. He knows that absolutely nobody will be willing to buy him for 10 millions.
    BTW, it was reported that Koscielny has at least two offers. One for two years from Lyon where he will be back up player. One from Bordeaux for 3 years with possibility to integrate the coaching staff later.

  89. Pierre

    Marko

    ‘Disrespectful to Koss the fucker’s lucky he wasn’t taken to the knackers yard after that Southampton performance last season’

    Sorry to say but that was poor management by Emery…..Kosielny coming back from a bad injury, what manager would put him straight into a tough away game for 90 minutes ….poor error of judgement( one of many last season) ..