Arsenal kicked off preseason with an U23 draw against Boreham Wood. Top geezer, banter king and all round top boy John Jules saved the day with two goals. Lovely. Nice to see the kids can’t defend either.
Today we have to get into the bed with the cold hard reality that Lucas Vasquez might be a thing. Madrid want rid of a wide player who was a big part of the team in one of their worst years in the last decade.
His statistics look about as sexy as those of the pretty boy from Barcelona. Last season, the 28-year-old Spaniard dropped a whopping 5 goals and 4 assists in 47 appearances. His minutes clock up to 29.5 games. That’s a seriously pony return for someone playing for Madrid. The numbers are a little better if you go back a few seasons, he was making a contribution every 121 minutes the two season before, which is better than Iwobi, but still not exciting.
My concern with this rumour is two fold.
Firstly, it’s us giving up on Zaha. Which could be seen as a whatever moment. Zaha’s numbers aren’t that exciting, his average minutes per contribution are worse than that of Vasquez, sitting at 169 minutes per contribution over the past three years. Even his best year was 154 minutes. However, he’s playing for Crystal Palace, so that has to be considered. Anyway, Zaha is only one year younger, but he plays more minutes and knows the league.
Secondly, if we go down this route, it basically means we’ve given up on proper scouting and we’re well and truly burying our snouts in the bargain bins of Europe. The player picks up a fairly small wage for Madrid standards, but you’d imagine we’ll be giving him a massive bump, some places reporting £180k a week.
Still, if you’re Emery and you’re being allowed to sign these types of players, who would you blow your money on, £30m on Vasquez, who has 183 starts for Madrid… or a £80m Zaha?
It feels bland to me, but hey, anyone is better than the no one we have lined up at the moment.
If we’re looking to the more positive options we have on the table, you could think that Arsenal are going to invest in youth this season.
Reiss Nelson had a team contribution every 78 minutes. Sure, it’s in a weaker league, but that’s exciting to read. Worth noting he scored that off a very low amount of shots. He scored 5 from his first 6 shots during his loan, which means he’s either the most elite finisher to grace the game, or he found a lucky streak.
A player I think could be a big talent for us at some point is Bukayo Saka. He’s fast, has a fantastic left foot and looks like a very exciting prospect. Are we not due a breakout teenager at some point? Would Emery consider blooding either of the two above? It’d certainly be more popular than Iwobi clogging up the right week after week.
The we also have salt of the earth diamond gem, John Jules. 29 goals in 54 appearances last season, he’s very young, but hey, PSG and Juve are interested. At the very least he deserves to be on tour, at the very most, maybe he’s the greatest player to grace an Arsenal shirt since the MIGHTY Jack Jebb?
Whoever we sign wide right and left this summer, at least we know there are two kids coming through that could potentially impose themselves on the first team. I just hope they find the courage to make it happen, I love Eddie, he has it all, but he’s been desperately unlucky so far. We need him to find his feet next season for sure.
ESR is also back from a pretty bland loan move at Leipzig, I believe the German club wanted to sign him but we refused. Can he make an impact on Emery this year? His long rangy legs and bursting runs forward could be valuable, but there is so little time at the highest level to make an impact and stay there.
This is a big year for the kids. Emery is going to have to be more strategic with cups that don’t matter this season if we’re going to attempt to win the Europa league and qualify for the top 4 this year. The exec leadership talk a really big game when they big up the youth, so let’s see if they have the guts to follow it through. The league cup should be about youth, so should early stages FA Cup. If they aren’t good enough, let’s be faster about moving them out. If they make an impact, excellent, we have more depth than we did last season.
It appears Chelsea are trying to play the same game in bringing Frank Lampard back into the fold. They want to see more kids coming through and his close relationship with them looks very similar to the one Freddie has with the current batch.
… but we did hear this last season and the return wasn’t great with the homegrown crowd. AMN and Matteo landed lots of game time, but others weren’t so lucky. That has to change this season.
The biggest block is the anxiety Unai Emery will feel about his job. He has to succeed. That doesn’t bode well with giving kids a look in. So we’ll see.
Right, that’s me done, see you on the other side. x
I think it has to be Guendouzi is still on whatever he was last season until we hear otherwise, mid-May some tabloids ran with the story he was ‘in line’ for a new deal and then nothing at all since. No ITKs saying he’s signed a new deal, no ‘Arsenal are delighted to announce’ no nothing.
If it happens it’s daft, but right now Guendouzi is on what he was as far as I’m concerned.
Cesc
I sure do hope you are right in that assertion.
We discussed it here at the time and Gambon was fully supportive of the increase to 70k weekly based in the lad’s starting role in the team and CIES football observatory rating.
I hope you’re right.
We’ve been badly run but the new management team have not yet shown thatn] they are capable of doing the dirty to move out dross players.
They even increased Guendouzi’s wages to a whopping 70k weekly for one season of average football. That was shambolic management.
This is what you said. No if true just you trying to pass it off as fact. You also started off the last paragraph with “The truth is…” Which is all kinds of lol
Deals being announced daily. Yet no one wants our world class players. I mean a squad many on here consider the fourth best in the country should have players many clubs want. Even our world class youths aren’t being poached.
Ming’s will going Bournemouth for 20m, means there is truth to the rumour Ake is on the move.
I confess I expected a bit more once we entered July but it’s getting worse the silence. I apologize to posters who were complaining earlier, no way we do what’s required this window.
Stans knows very well about the loss. That’s why he sent out the Christmas message demanding very departments to cut back. If he really want to put money in, he could have done it during the Jan. TW. I still remembered seeing how disappointed Emery was when he told the media that there is no money to sign player. This time, Raul wants to meet with Stan. I think he doesn’t want to take full responsibility in case it went terrible wrong and he could lose his job. He knows full well that Stan won’t change this ss model. He’ll… Read more »
Stan is an absent owner plain and simple. Anyone who feels that he is “doing something” might be smoking something.. All the top clubs in EPL are owned by ambitious owners who buy and sell all the time, and looking to strengthen their teams. We just sit and keep on and on… The team needed a strong kick in the ass this summer. What did we get? A lot of smoke and mirrors BS There is a reason he is know as silent stan… But he bought the team and needs to be accountable to the fans. He must. And… Read more »
Dissenter it was a rumored increase for Matteo G. Was never confirmed by the club. You can’t up a players wage without a new contract and he hasn’t signed one.
IF we still can pull
Tierney
Zaha/ZIyech/Fraser
Saliba
I think we might be ok.. But also as important is getting rid of the deadwood.
That needs to happen as well.
Honestly Stan doesn’t need to do anything.
The board, they can certainly do better.
The Manager, he can certainly do better.
The Coaches, they can do better.
The Players, they can do better.
The tactics/systems/styles, they can all do better.
Sorry I am being rude here but really embarrassing commentary from Pedro and Dissenter suggesting it is a bad thing for Kroenke to invest money in to Arsenal. If Kroenke doesn’t step in, Arsenal are precariously close to becoming an eternal mid table club. And yes Stan won’t be doing the club a favor if he injects some cash in to the club, rather he will be preserving the value of his investment. If you guys follow business and finance even a little bit, you would know it’s pretty common for owners to inject funds in to their businesess either… Read more »
You may discuss Kroenke till your cheeks turn purple, if the discussion doesn’t include how Kroenke gets some heat from us then it’s just some more evening gossip. That being said. Why do I see Odoi and Nelson on the same level? Sheer sentiments? And why do I think Willock, given proper chance, would outshine Odoi? Yet Frank L was on and on about Odoi with statements laced with blatant pleading and Emery does not even seem aware of Willock. It’s no big deal that Bayern are on Odoi’s case. That doesn’t make him better than Willock. We all thought… Read more »
Let’s just accept it….Arsenal are a mid-table club.
Unless of course, the house of saud is the new owner.
TR7
“Sorry I am being rude here but really embarrassing commentary from Pedro and Dissenter suggesting it is a bad thing for Kroenke to invest money in to Arsenal. ”
So says you, the same poster that thinks cash-in-nagd means everything but cash in hand.
Why would be give money to a business that declared cash in hand of 89 million as at the last financial statement?
What has Odoi got to do with Willock?
Evening, A Few points, stans a tight wad, that won’t waste money. But has approved a huge wage increase for guendouzi who has three years left on his contract. Why hasn’t arsenal announced it in the press or on arsenal.com if it’s true? Emery didn’t attend the boreham wood game this year. Last year he did. This was the squad Petr Cech (c) 45′ 2 Hector Bellerin 45′ 5 Sokratis Papastathopoulos 45′ 27 Konstantinos Mavropanos 45′ 34 Jordi Osei-Tutu 45′ 15 Ainsley Maitland-Niles 45′ 30 Joe Willock 45′ 35 Emile Smith-Rowe 45′ 19 Reiss Nelson 35′ 45′ 9 Alexandre Lacazette… Read more »
*cash in hand
Agents and players have absolutely figged the game.
The greed from Stan and his Ilk is virtually the norm.
Even youth players are demanding what they expect
in wages.
Players like Ozil / Pogba are an example of the arrogance shown by these
prim donnas of the modern game.
Pogba slightly gifted but goes missing is demanding £500k a week
Let’s be honest if it was not for a few flashes of brilliance he would probably be
repairing the roof of the Norte Dame.
“Really LOL at Dissenter suggesting Stan needing to ask tough questions to our management regarding use of funds.”
Like asking why Alexis Sanchez wasn’t sold in the summer of 2017
Like asking why Ramsey wasn’t sold last summer
Like asking why we didn’t sell Welbeck last summer
Like asking why we gave Ozil that deal
You don’t think the owner should ask questions because “in football you make some good transfers and some bad ones”
That’s embarrassing commentary there for you.
We all know arsenal have been mismanaged the last few years due to Ivan and Arsene.
Stan let them get on with until he had enough and Arsene got bounced.
Now it’s going to take time to recover.
Stan won’t invest,he wants us self sustaining, increase revenues through sponsors or getting back to champions league football, is the only way as far as he’s concerned.
Would be surprised if players don’t start to come and go this week coming.
Won’t be enough but will see if a few kids can step up to help,out?
People just want sugar daddies, that’s all. I wonder why they hated on Chelsea when Abramovich was doing his thing.
‘What has Odoi got to do with Willock?’
R.H,
They are two young footballers from two London clubs competing for same honours.
One is being celebrated(because of his contract situations of course) and the other being neglected.
Dissenter ‘So says you, the same poster that thinks cash-in-nagd means everything but cash in hand.Why would be give money to a business that declared cash in hand of 89 million as at the last financial statement?’ Not my problem if you don’t understand the dynamics of our club vis-a-vis Liverpool. We have to maintain a debt reserve fund of £23M unlike Liveroool. We have to provision for not finishing top 4 next season too unlike Liverpool. We have no other option but to keep some cash in reserve for we know Stan won’t help us unlike John Henry who… Read more »
People just want sugar daddies, that’s all
Yeah that’s it sugar daddies and not even the slightest bit of investment while we’re struggling to get deals done. You’ve got it all sussed out. If it were true…
Stan is going nowhere. He sees the future, the million pound spinning closed shop (somewhat) of the inevitable European Super League. If tv money is huge now, wait until that gets started. Guaranteed millions upon millions every year just to be there. However, he should be keeping a closer eye on his club and making tougher decisions to ensure they are in the discussion for the super league when it comes around. Before the half way point of this century there will be many more lower league clubs going bust. Game will have changed completely I reckon. And already loads… Read more »
The US has carried female football forever.
80% of the stadium and the fans outside are American fans. You will think Holland being a train-trip or car ride away would bring in more dutch fans.
No Gentlebris
One is being celebrated because the champions of Germany are willing to drop 30m pounds for his signature.
The others isn’t known by anyone besides Arsenal fans who think their youth players are all world class.
One is being celebrated(because of his contract situations of course) and the other being neglected.
One has also shown incredible potential compared to the other who’s shown…eh…
Marko
You think throwing money at the problems solves it.
The new team are yet to prove their competence. Why would Kroenke just give them 50 million for the fun of it?
Did you miss out the point about the cash-in-hand were are carrying?
No people don’t want sugar daddies, you are.just fabricating stuff at this stage. 89M and now this sugar daddy thing. There is a HUGE difference between being a sugar daddy and injecting.some cash at a time the club is in very precarious situation.
Dissenter
Could Stan not ‘write off’ in some sense the hindrances from the previous regime to allow the new one to implement their strategy better?
Say, footing a loss in fee for Ozil, Mkhi, Mustafi to allow transfers out and give us a better footing in terms of wage bill?
Not the same as ‘here’s a 100 mil, go nuts’.
TR7
Fabricating what?
The AST summary of the last financial statement says 89 million cash in hand.
What are you talking about?
Where are you getting your information from..I bet it’s the same AST statement.
CC
You make a good pit about a write off but shouldn’t he be certain that the hired hands know what they are doing first?
There’s a due diligence that needs to be done. Lets see what Raul, Vinai and Emery are made of first.
*good point
Dissenter
No, I refer to financial statements uploaded on Arsenal.com. I don’t know much about AST. You mean to say they have access to FY 2018-2019 number even though the club has not released any financial statement till date ?
You think throwing money at the problems solves it. Is that the argument being made? How about doing more than nothing? How about some investment that addresses a short term problem. I mean he could do minor investment over a one to three year period and that could be enough to set us up for the next 10 years. Instead nothing. It’s quite extraordinary given the summer that we’re having that there’s fans like you out there talking absolute gash. Throwing money at the moment literally will solve many problems. We’re clearly struggling to get deals over the line and… Read more »
‘You think throwing money at the problems solves it.’
So enlighten us how football clubs solve their problems ?
‘There’s a due diligence that needs to be done. Lets see what Raul, Vinai and Emery are made of first.’ How are we adjudging them given the financial realities at the club? What happens when Kroenke decides ‘okay I will actually spend something for once’ and the chance created by Chelsea’s situation, United’s situation and 5th place potentially giving you UCL football is gone? He’s actually more spending for the sake of it then than anything else, and forget £50-80 Million, in a situation where Chelsea are spending again, United have their shit sorted out and 5th no longer gets… Read more »
TR7
You’re really full of it.
You accused me of fabrication when the financial statements you refer to clearly has higher numbers that the conservative estimate the AST put out.
I’m to believe your summary and disregard the AST’s
shouldn’t he be certain that the hired hands know what they are doing first?
This seems to be a recurring point from you. How do they prove competency exactly? By doing a good job in awful circumstances? How about sorting out a football with zero investment from the owner. It’s honestly a stupid point you’re making if he has worries about the hires then he should step in and do something other than nothing. Sack them if he doesn’t trust them with his zero investment in Arsenal football club
If one of the first acts of Vinai and Raul is to ask for more money then they need to be sacked promptly.
Cesc,
Hope can you justify us asking fore more money from Stan when we are pursuing sizable deals like Saliba [based on tabloid reports] that won’t even impact this season,?
There goes the argument for an imminent or acute need if one of the main things we are doing is securing 2020-2021 season.
Dissenter I think that’s where some frustration lies with folk toward Stan, this lot should’ve been hired with ungodly due diligence done and Stan should be convinced by them already. To the point of helping them succeed in implementing a new way for the club even if that means taking a minor personal hit to pave a new direction. A 40-50 mil write off would give us tremendous breathing room, and go a long way to showing Stan’s commitment to acknowledging previous flaws and wanting a change of outcome (CL football and beyond). We can sit and do little, or… Read more »
Let’s see what Raul and Vinai and Emery and Edu do with 45 million before Stan decides to do more than nothing. Unbelievable how someone comes up with such commentary.
Dissenter I quote you ‘The AST summary of the last financial statement says 89 million cash in hand.’ As per the last audited financial, we have £231M cash in hand. Cash in hand is a specific line item in balance sheet. There is no scope for conjecture or analysis. It’s explicitly mentioned in our financials. So what did AST actually ‘analyse’ and how come it managed to reduce it down to 89M. In all likelihood they must be ‘projecting/estimating’ our current cash in hand figure. There is no analysis of any financial statement for the one released has the exact… Read more »
Marko
“This seems to be a recurring point from you. How do they prove competency exactly? By doing a good job in awful circumstances? ”
By cutting fat as much as possible.
I’ve defended Raul more than most here but there is NO evidence that they have moved on the players that are bad value for money. They are all still firmly placed at Arsenal.
I want to wait and see how they fare. I’m not champing at the bits for Kroenke’s money to cover up bad management.
Not to mention due diligence? The fuck ups of the new regime (Lictsteiner and Suarez) didn’t cost us that much and they’ve added Leno for £20 Million who is a £60 Million GK in this market, Torreira for £26 Million who Arsenal value at around £40 Million (really could be more) and Guendouzi who regardless of outlandish valuations is likely a £20-25 Million youngster with a conservative estimate.
Can’t argue with that. Could you imagine if they were properly backed.
If one of the first acts of Vinai and Raul is to ask for more money then they need to be sacked promptly.
An imbecilic comment if ever I seen one. Eroding financials and a squad that needs addressing all on a meagre budget? Yes how dare they ask for help from their owner.
but there is NO evidence that they have moved on the players that are bad value for money
You kind of answer your own question there. Anyway you’re on a role today
I want to wait and see how they fare. I’m not champing at the bits for Kroenke’s money to cover up bad management.
Oh so you want Stan to do more once the new guys have shown that they can get rid of players like Özil and co? Makes sense
Dissenter This is simple math in my book. He presided over failure, those failures are hampering recovery massively, there’s a golden opportunity this season and this season only that those failures are stopping us from having the best chance of achieving. If Kroenke sits on his hands and ignores all that I join the people vociferously calling for him to go. I’ve never been one to bash Kroenke but if you’re saying he should suddenly start looking at the club with a microscope to avoid handing over money when he couldn’t be less interested in doing that for the last… Read more »
Marko
Raul is too savvy to even ask a billionaire owner for more money.
Pedro gotmit right when he said that Raul’s instinct for self-preservation will never let him do that.
They can ask for a loosening of how much is released for spending this window.
If that’;s what you’re trying to say then I support you. They can loosen the budget so we can spend more this summer not to ask for a hand-out from kroenke.
‘If one of the first acts of Vinai and Raul is to ask for more money then they need to be sacked promptly.’
Please stop it man ! It’s getting more and more embarrassing.
Pedro sucking on old Kroenke’s balls… But then this is the same guy that believed Gazidis was a gladiator and believes Arteta is genius
Hold up that Queer banner proud
I can see I have Marko all riled up seething from an imaginary slight.
Thats how you roll.
So far you’ve used “imbecilic” and other derogatory hits on me when all I’m making are points that aren’t that far out.
TR7
Yes.. by all means write a hand-out for your employees when they come asking for the easiest fix for a problem.
Raul and Vinai are not as freaking naive as you. I bet you they won’t ask for money.
Dissenter is in the right.
Raul and Vinaigrette should be sacked. They failed to magic shit to gold.
Dissenter
If there’s anyone whose naivety is coming to the fore, it’s you. You still haven’t replied how come AST arrived at the figure of £89M when it’s £231 M in audited financial. And you always talk about ‘money’ as an easy fix. Tell me how do football clubs solve their problem the hard way ? Liverpool bought VVD and Allison to solve their defense and GK.issue. Did John Henry sack Klopp for taking the ‘easy’ route of spending money ?
We dont need a sugar daddy ala Chelsea, City etc What we need is a owner that realizes the dire straights we are in, and supplements the team to make us competitive. Winning makes more money and in order to win, you need to invest at times. That time is now and even the last window. We pull in 2 solid players back in Jan, we might have gotten top 4. Thus, CL money. We sat and signed some shit with no money. Embarrassing. If we asked for $ last Jan ( I have a feeling we did) and were… Read more »
R.H, Marko
Your points are exactly my concern. Would we have paid more attention to Gnabry if Bayern had come to us directly with £30m?
Marko are you saying Willock is not showing good potentials as well?
Everytime we give this lad a brief chance, he does good things.
Watch out for him in the preseason games, because that may be all the chance he gets again while the likes of Mikki and Ozil start games.
Gnabry left us and it wouldn’t surprise me if Willock leaves as well and becomes a super star somewhere better than Arsenal.
Rambo
That’s funny because I clearly stated that they deserve to be sacked if one their first acts is too ask for more money.
Easy to disagree with me on the merits, not of the turning shot to gold crap.
I’ve defended them more that most people here but if their magic is from asking for Kroenke’s handouts then they need to go.
Why is waiting so hard for you?
Why is spending someone else’s money so appealing to you?
*and become a super star…..
During one of his few interview, Raul stated that if the coach wants a player with specific characteristics, he has the information at hand on his laptop and Arsenal can pursue the player. Gazidis’s reason to hire Raul was his extensive contacts and fine negotiation skills. Pre-season training is starting, nobody has left and we have only signed an 18 years old Brazilian on Edu’s advice. We are stuck chasing Mislintat’s targets but can’t conclude deals quickly. Saliba is not expected to join us until next season anyway. If nothing dramatic happens between now and the end of the TW,… Read more »
If the choice is strictly between Vazquez or Zaha there is no choice, it’s Zaha all the way.
However that is not choice. In reality the choice is improve our defence or spend £70m to £80m unbalancing our already unbalanced team even more.
We need to fix our defence. If we can then bring in another attacker with the proceeds of all our deadwood is one thing but to waste all our time and effort in chasing a marquee attacker when we have such obvious deficiencies in our team is sheer stupidity.
‘We pull in 2 solid players back in Jan, we might have gotten top 4. Thus, CL money.’
We did some decent goal scoring winger that time we got top 3 certainly.
All this wishful thinking about Kroenke ‘helping’ us. He’s a pure financial investor who makes investment decisions based on risk and reward. With the mess we’re in, and with the team below us having far more financial firepower and desperate to break back into the CL, he’ll regard any personal injection of cash into the playing side of Arsenal as a bad investment: the likelihood of receiving a return on a £50m injection is low, because we’ll probably miss out on CL anyway, and we show no ability to flip players for profit. For Kroenke, the costs of making a… Read more »
*is not the choice…
at this point we should just sell
Miki Ozil Mustafi El Neny Jenks Kos Xhaka for whatever we can get for them.
Keeping them is not only going to make us weaker on the field but financially also.
There is no other way….
Bring in the youth we have- fine but get rid of these players
Get rid of stan the absent owner
‘For Kroenke, the costs of making a big push at the top 4 are not worth the risks. Top 6 on a 6th place budget, with the back-door chance of CL qualification via EL, is enough to maintain or slowly grow the value of the club, and we’re currently seeing our cost base rationalised to break even at that level.’ I think you’re absolutely right. I think he also sees the contract cycle, people like Mustafi, Mkhitaryan, Ozil etc whose contracts will be finished in 2 years and there will be another £40-50 Million in cash floating around. He will… Read more »
Elmo, Then Stan is a gambling man with that theory … banking on winning the EL- As we know that is not an easy route – we have gone deep the last 2 years and not been able to pull it out. The Suarez deal was complete shambles. We needed defenders and perhaps one attacker. We spend a little more, we could have brought in more help- I am fairly convinced we could have made it into top 4. Because we came so close with utter shit, I can see how Stan would sit on his hands again. But he… Read more »
Guns
Agreed
Can we not just cut the contract ?
Players have run down an got the busman…
What can clubs do.
Players to go list is so long
Michi
Ozil
Kolasinac
Xhara
Jenks
Elnenny
Mustafi
If we could get 30m job lot … be lovely
Guns SF Kroenke isn’t gambling on winning the EL. For him, it would be a nice bonus if it happens, but the default business model is now finish top 6 while breaking even financially. I’m sure what’s terrified him most in his entire tenure at the club has been seeing huge operating losses at the club for the last two years (a state of affairs that I’m sure scares the living daylights out of any US major sports franchise owner, who are used to rigidly structured oligopolies with salary caps that guarantee all franchises are profitable). The main motivation for… Read more »
Ozil should not be anywhere the near the first team next season. Let him run his contract down.. We can use others… but we need to be ruthless. Sell at a loss but get rid of the shit… no other way… if that is how we are supposed to raise funds.. then we are waiting too long in the window- so we wait and sell a few towards the end and pull another bid for Lemar situation in the last hour, leaving the selling team no options to replace the player. This scenario has also played out time and again… Read more »
I can see I have Marko all riled up seething from an imaginary slight.
Thats how you roll.
You’re right. It’s just stupid people saying stupid things gets to me sometimes. I mean imagine fans expecting an owner to do more to help them get out of a slump. Incredible right
West Ham offering to pay the release clause of Maxi Gomez. That’s nearly 45 million up front. We’d never be able to do anything like that under Kroenke. But of course there’s nothing he could do more
and the zaha rumors keep coming… wonder if this is just BS
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2019/07/07/80m-arsenal-target-asks-to-leave-international-duty-early-in-order-to-finalise-transfer/
It seems some are asking the Wong questions and getting enraged at the answer that’s coming back at them.
One of the pressing questions that needs asking is; why is our transfer budget set so low when we have more revenue coming in from commercial revenue
It could be that the tabloids have been so off the mark but there’s no reason we shouldn’t be spending 80-100 million every season.
*wrong questions
Dissenter
Good question… but with financial figures all over the place who knows what is really going on. I have felt the club leaked the 40M to plead poverty to other teams and to the fans, so when we fail to bring on needed players, one can blame “we only had 40M”
But if the 40 we used for Zaha is real, then the 40M budget is bogus to me.
I swear dealing with Arsenal in negotiations is a nightmare. The nickel and diming and shadiness is too much.
Guns of SF
“I swear dealing with Arsenal in negotiations is a nightmare. The nickel and diming and shadiness is too much.”
Not a bad reputation to have.
I think we are going to have a good window when it’s all said and done.
Emile Smith and Zaka are exciting players for sure .. with reiss nelson
on board we should have some attacking force at our disposal, then
we only need one world class defender
“Players to go list is so long
Michi
Ozil
Kolasinac
Xhara
Jenks
Elnenny
Mustafi
If we could get 30m job lot … be lovely”
And would see us so deep in FFP shit as to be untrue. You can’t sell off an asset that’s down on your book as £25 million for £5 million and not show a £20 million paper loss on the accounts.
As FFP is based on the accounts do you get it now?
“Can we not just cut the contract ?
Players have run down an got the busman…
What can clubs do.”
Nothing unless the player were to do something that would constitute breach of contract ie get caught snorting half of Bolivia’s GDP. Being lazy and a bit shit won’t do it. The only thing a club can do is make it uncomfortable enough for a player to want to leave.
C
That’s total bollocks …
We are lumbered
Wenger knew what he was doing,
That fuck has ruined the club through his own personal greed.
Put the club in postition they we would look bad when he went.
He knew they wanted him out…
Blame Stan but also blame wenger.
RSPC
You have to wonder if Fergie recommended Moyes to make him look better. Fact that Moyes has been the best manager ManU have had since is something the Glazer’s should really be looking at!
That is us fucked then ain’t it Marc…
RSPC
What comment are you referring to?
Marc
Indeed
All about ego an self preservation .
I admire emery that he is only going to stay for a few years, can’t be caught out by a twat like that again .?
The ffp shit
RSPC
Still don’t know what comment you’re referring to?
Gazidis is a worse culprit than Wenger. He was in charge and he is the one who signed on Özil’s and Mhikitarian’s contract. He is the one who negotiated those stupid contracts with Aubameyang and Lacazette with bonus related to their individual performance (goals, …) rather than the team overall position such as qualifications to the Champion’s League. Gazidis was supposed to bring more professionalism to the club. All he did was hiring mediocre Yes men. There is a say: A’s hire A’s, when B’s hire C’s. Gazidis was a C (Con men) who just happen to hire Y(Yes men).… Read more »
RSPC
Well as the value of the players will be written off over the course of their contracts in theory over the next couple of years Mustafi, Ozil, Xhaka etc can go on a free without destroying the accounts. Of course letting players leave on a free isn’t what we want to be doing but if you’re a player who can get a big signing on fee by moving for free what would you do?
Nothing unless the player were to do something that would constitute breach of contract ie get caught snorting half of Bolivia’s GDP. Being lazy and a bit shit won’t do it. The only thing a club can do is make it uncomfortable enough for a player to want to leave.
Unsalable …
Lumbered
All wenger an gazidis fault
Can’t blame Stan for poor signing, can’t blame him for not putting hand in pocket..
I don’t think it’s stains fault .. per say.
Kroenke can’t wash his hands of the fuck ups of Wenger and Gazidis.
If average football fans could predict the collapse we’ve seen now years ago, aside from the deluded pro-Wenger rabble, then how on earth could he not?
I refuse to believe we on here and in the wider fan base are smarter, more business and sports savvy than a billionaire businessmen. How could he not see it because this isn’t hindsight, fans called this for at least the last 4 years of Wenger’s reign.
Cesc
He believed the Kool-Aid and there was no one in the structure who acted as a counter balance.
Why this whole thesis about Kroenke and what not to spend?
Honestly I careless what goes on financially in the club. All a football fan is about is his team doing well on the pitch. The off pitch matters is for those in suits. My opinion though.
And if u don’t understand finance like me, how do I get to UNDERSTAND the financial dealings of the club.?
Since it’s Kroenke’s day, enjoy your debate and I’ll enjoy watching the AFCON.
Marc It’s just utter stupidity though and what is worring is that shows someone who did no ‘due diligence’ (as it’s the word of the day) on football in Europe and the direction of Arsenal in comparison to our rivals. If I was Kroenke with a limited knowledge of ‘soccer’ I would have had my own guys, an expert in football more in the DoF/TD type role and someone more in Venkatesham’s mould of CFO/Commercial Operations go in the club as my men when the club never kicked on and fan unrest started to boil, not beholden to Wenger or… Read more »
‘Honestly I careless what goes on financially in the club. All a football fan is about is his team doing well on the pitch. ‘
The former relates directly to the latter and the latter to the former.
Kay
It’s only because we should be in a position to buy some better players and get back in the CL but because of piss poor management we’re some what fucked.
Not completely – just marginally!
Cesc
Yes but how does that relate to the angle of the dangle?