Arsenal kicked off preseason with an U23 draw against Boreham Wood. Top geezer, banter king and all round top boy John Jules saved the day with two goals. Lovely. Nice to see the kids can’t defend either.
Today we have to get into the bed with the cold hard reality that Lucas Vasquez might be a thing. Madrid want rid of a wide player who was a big part of the team in one of their worst years in the last decade.
His statistics look about as sexy as those of the pretty boy from Barcelona. Last season, the 28-year-old Spaniard dropped a whopping 5 goals and 4 assists in 47 appearances. His minutes clock up to 29.5 games. That’s a seriously pony return for someone playing for Madrid. The numbers are a little better if you go back a few seasons, he was making a contribution every 121 minutes the two season before, which is better than Iwobi, but still not exciting.
My concern with this rumour is two fold.
Firstly, it’s us giving up on Zaha. Which could be seen as a whatever moment. Zaha’s numbers aren’t that exciting, his average minutes per contribution are worse than that of Vasquez, sitting at 169 minutes per contribution over the past three years. Even his best year was 154 minutes. However, he’s playing for Crystal Palace, so that has to be considered. Anyway, Zaha is only one year younger, but he plays more minutes and knows the league.
Secondly, if we go down this route, it basically means we’ve given up on proper scouting and we’re well and truly burying our snouts in the bargain bins of Europe. The player picks up a fairly small wage for Madrid standards, but you’d imagine we’ll be giving him a massive bump, some places reporting £180k a week.
Still, if you’re Emery and you’re being allowed to sign these types of players, who would you blow your money on, £30m on Vasquez, who has 183 starts for Madrid… or a £80m Zaha?
It feels bland to me, but hey, anyone is better than the no one we have lined up at the moment.
If we’re looking to the more positive options we have on the table, you could think that Arsenal are going to invest in youth this season.
Reiss Nelson had a team contribution every 78 minutes. Sure, it’s in a weaker league, but that’s exciting to read. Worth noting he scored that off a very low amount of shots. He scored 5 from his first 6 shots during his loan, which means he’s either the most elite finisher to grace the game, or he found a lucky streak.
A player I think could be a big talent for us at some point is Bukayo Saka. He’s fast, has a fantastic left foot and looks like a very exciting prospect. Are we not due a breakout teenager at some point? Would Emery consider blooding either of the two above? It’d certainly be more popular than Iwobi clogging up the right week after week.
The we also have salt of the earth diamond gem, John Jules. 29 goals in 54 appearances last season, he’s very young, but hey, PSG and Juve are interested. At the very least he deserves to be on tour, at the very most, maybe he’s the greatest player to grace an Arsenal shirt since the MIGHTY Jack Jebb?
Whoever we sign wide right and left this summer, at least we know there are two kids coming through that could potentially impose themselves on the first team. I just hope they find the courage to make it happen, I love Eddie, he has it all, but he’s been desperately unlucky so far. We need him to find his feet next season for sure.
ESR is also back from a pretty bland loan move at Leipzig, I believe the German club wanted to sign him but we refused. Can he make an impact on Emery this year? His long rangy legs and bursting runs forward could be valuable, but there is so little time at the highest level to make an impact and stay there.
This is a big year for the kids. Emery is going to have to be more strategic with cups that don’t matter this season if we’re going to attempt to win the Europa league and qualify for the top 4 this year. The exec leadership talk a really big game when they big up the youth, so let’s see if they have the guts to follow it through. The league cup should be about youth, so should early stages FA Cup. If they aren’t good enough, let’s be faster about moving them out. If they make an impact, excellent, we have more depth than we did last season.
It appears Chelsea are trying to play the same game in bringing Frank Lampard back into the fold. They want to see more kids coming through and his close relationship with them looks very similar to the one Freddie has with the current batch.
… but we did hear this last season and the return wasn’t great with the homegrown crowd. AMN and Matteo landed lots of game time, but others weren’t so lucky. That has to change this season.
The biggest block is the anxiety Unai Emery will feel about his job. He has to succeed. That doesn’t bode well with giving kids a look in. So we’ll see.
Right, that’s me done, see you on the other side. x
John Jules traveling to the US with the first team squad.
Not sure if that was always planned or as a result of yesterdays game?
Does Zaha guarantee us CL football?
I’m posing this question because there’s an erroneous assumption that promoting certain academy players condemns us to mid table mediocrity.
We shouldn’t be keeping a 25 million transfer rated Chambers to back up Torreira at a time when we don’t have money to bring in better starters.
That’s one of the imbalances we need to correct.
Let’s get a proper player to start in every position, then we can use subsequent seasons to work on back-ups. Some of the promoted players will fail but a few will succeed.
I quite want to see Bielik given a go at CDM in pre-season.
Given his U21 performance this summer a lot of fans on here would probably be asking the club to look at him if he wasn’t already an Arsenal player.
Big jump from League 1 to EPL though. Certainly could take Elneny’s place on the bench.
Nothing would say incompetence quite like that.
Quite like asking the owner of the club to help out the club?
Your all being sucked in by names…
Cos he is a Barca player must be brilliant ..
Hleb
Song
Van bronchurst
Vermalen
To name a few … Ain’t or wernt brilliant for us.
No point in buying top shelf players just wanting casjlh.
Would rather young wanting to impress an become world bearers .
As stroller pointed
3 former yoots worth 20m.. not world class yet but must have board thinking
CA, Your economic argument is to inject Arsenal with outside cash. That is a bad approach to business, and a bad approach to take with Stan. I didn’t say we were economically strong. We are a mess because we keep making bad decisions. You don’t double down on being badly run by asking for outside injections of cash… and you’d never present that as good economics, as it appears you are trying to do with your argument that you think makes sense. We are in a mess, we need to get out of that mess ourselves and reset the club.… Read more »
Cesc
Well he either impresses and earns a place in the squad or puts himself I the shop window.
My point is they buy shit as well as great Barca.
Marko,
Yes, that would be utter incompetence of the highest order.
Marc, fair point although what I was suggesting is that we’re quite likely to cock the deal up by acting stupidly from the first bid just like we did with old bitey. Why can’t we learn to negotiate properly? We’ve been terrible at it for the last decade. We’ve got idiots on million pound salaries who can’t even do the basics right. Talking of which did you see Dick Law going on about the Suarez incident recently? Came across as whining old fool who clearly still can’t see why offering the extra £1 might be deemed as taking the piss.
Pedro
“You don’t double down on being badly run by asking for outside injections of cash… and you’d never present that as good economics”
Sorry but that’s so far removed from real business as to be laughable. Lot’s of businesses look to refinance to correct previous mistakes. If we’ve done what should’ve happened ie remove the two main problems Wenger and Gazidis then you’re now talking about a different management team changing the way we do things. If that includes a short term cash injection that is not bad business unless we repeat the previous mistakes of spending it badly.
Pedro That isn’t my argument. My argument is for one time owner investment to help us achieve the goal of UCL football which would bring about a long term self-sustainable economic model with the revenues to compete at the top and never have to look to owner investment again. The reason I ask for it is because currently our squad and our finances leave us 6th of 6 teams at the top of the table and this season 1) Europa League, 2) Top 4 and 3) Potentially 5th open up UCL football. In that environment leaning on a paltry £45… Read more »
Pedro
You’re also presenting the mess at the club as a reason not to invest…there’s only one person left at the club whose fault the mess is.
And we’re asking him for money.
More clubs should follow Millwall lead an have fans q&a sessions before season starts no vetted questions just fans feelings
Cesc and Pedro I think you guys are battling and quibbling over an unnecessary fort Arsenal need a loading dose or infusion of funds [like is done for many IV medications] to kickstart this new era. The question is where does it come from; Externally from Kroenke or not. We have money that has shown up in every financial statement as ‘cash in bank’ that was most likely accrued from Wenger’s refusal or inability to take transfers seriously. Arsenal ought to release some of those funds for transfers. That will help relive some of the acute issues we have this… Read more »
andy
Wasn’t it Dick Law who spent a summer chasing what’s his name round the Caribbean trying to get him to sign?
Cesc
Look Stan would have seen another yank invest over 100m an get fuck all back
Fulham khan the man
Stan will keep his cash we can all beg won’t change a thing.
Only at board level could it possibly change.
Yes, that would be utter incompetence of the highest order.
Again just so that we’re clear you’re saying that it would be utterly incompetent to ask the owner to help out with the club that he owns? I’m not advocating that he throw a couple hundred million down our pants but at the very least he could do more than the sum total of zero which is what he’s contributed. He could also help with the sponsorship side of things considering his standing in American business
Kroenke doesn’t need to spend HIS money.
He sure can authorize the club to spend monies idling away in our accounts.
Liverpool declared 10 and 4 million as cash in hand in the last two seasons. They have debts of over £150 million. Arsenal FC doesn’t need to be carrying cash in hand of 90-150 million.
Gaining CL football would also stop the decline in revenues. And I don’t just mean via TV money.
CL football makes it easier to sign other sponsor deals.
Marko, if we know what we’re doing it’s not so much asking Kroenke to ‘help out’ it’s more like asking Kroenke to make an investment in his asset. If we do it right we would improve our chances of CL money, increase interest and therefore ticket sales, merchandising, TV exposure and subsequent sponsorship deals. And if we buy well and sell well we should make good profits on players. All of which would increase the value of his investment. The reason he isn’t going to invest (not spend) is that he doesn’t have faith that the people running the club… Read more »
Marc,
How often to businesses go back to shareholders and ask for a cash injection because their wage bill is out of control?
Marc
CL football makes it easier to sign other sponsor deals
It didn’t stop us from signing the lucrative visit Rwanda and the Adidas deals
Has the club fully explored sponsorship ?
Sell name of the bridges
Sell the name of the stands
The carslberg lower stand.
Sell the walkways hovis walkway
Sell the concourse will sponsor flooring
Sell the programme
There must be more ways to being in money
My argument is for one time owner investment to help us achieve the goal of UCL football which would bring about a long term self-sustainable economic model
That is a way that he can help. Also by bringing in a couple players who are sellable assets in the future that way we can go again and without Stan needing to invest again. I mean look here’s the thing the only way we’re getting out of this rut is with investment. That’s it
Pedro
Is chips still there
Didn’t help his comment we follow arsene with what he says he gets comment
If he is still there sack the cunt
Pedro
Football has a different cost basis to other businesses. The principle remains the same. Putting money into a business to invest that leads to increased revenues is a sound and often used business practice.
I’m not advocating spending £300 million, just a loosening of the purse strings to help with this summer.
Marko, I’m not sure venturing down the route of Manchester City sponsorship fraud is good business practice either. Stan is a business owner. He’s a frugal one. We are not frugally run. I’d imagine he’ll have the same view he’s always had, use the resources you have at your disposal to make this club run properly. No injections. That would be bad business for him, especially considering there is no TD, an average manager and no chief scout running the show there. These so-called great economic decisions for the club are just gambles… we’ve had 3 seasons of that and… Read more »
“”Raul and VV have sat on this for a year and their best plan is a begging bowl, they should be dismissed””
THIS!!
Raul being a “contacts” person, should have placed himself in a position to sell atleast 3 out of the dross we have by now and shouldn’t be waiting for the Aug 1st week to complete deals for Tierney, Saliba and Zaha or Fekir.
Marc, yes, that was Joel Campbell. Waste of time ultimately, so obviously we learnt from that and two years later signed Sanogo (lol).
Potential investors and cooperate clients look at a lot more than CL qualification before deciding to take up corporate sponsorships They see Arsenal playing in Singapore, Australia, and Los Angeles to full stadiums They see a hastily arranged ASTV fane meet in Dubai filled to the rafters with fans They look at how every Arsenal story in the tabloids is easy click bait Arsenal is, and will always be a good commercial partner because the club is indeed a global entity. We reached the semifinals and finals of the EL so it’s not like we are being knocked out by… Read more »
Kay, absolutely.
It is unbelievable that we’ve not found a place for Xhaka, Mustafi, Mikhi and Kola at this stage.
Would love to see what that Dortmund CEO would do with Arsenal, but I’m sure it’d be more creative than what we’re seeing at the moment.
Dissenter
Despite what many on here think we are still a huge club – of course we can sign deals. CL football just means we’re more attractive to prospective sponsors.
Watch ManU go into full panic mode if they’re still struggling and not making CL football on a regular basis with the Chrysler deal is coming up for renewal.
How often to businesses go back to shareholders and ask for a cash injection because their wage bill is out of control?
I’m not sure that’s what’s being discussed. We’re not asking for money to be added on top of the problem we’re talking about an owner helping a club during a period of need. That doesn’t then mean that we don’t have to address issues with regards to the bloated wage bill or underperforming playing staff
Dissenter, the 32 corp boxes still available is a big story.
Bankers don’t want to take their clients midweek to see Ostersunds… and it is very hard to shift a weekend ticket, even when free.
Marko,
Businesses don’t generally go to the market to ask for cash injections for hire, stating the reason is they are so badly run they can’t shift previous bad hires.
No one would invest in that sort of business.
Also, there is a grim record of clubs that invested that little bit extra to make the elite and failed miserably.
Layvin Kurzawa to leave PSG.
I’m not sure venturing down the route of Manchester City sponsorship fraud is good business practice either.
I’m not even saying that. Look at United they have Chevrolet as a sponsor why can’t Stan help us out in a that regard? He knows a tonne of American businesses and corporations he could even help out that end by getting some of them on board with Arsenal. But that’s another area where he seemingly does nothing to help
I thought that transfer instalment plans are now time limited by UEFA.
As far as I am aware Arsenal do not buy players with repayment plans of more than two seasons, although they may pay add-ons beyond those dates.
I agree with Pedro that we should not be spending mega bucks for players aged 27+. Assuming that they are on 3-4 year contracts they will have limited resale value once they reach their 30th Birthday.
I agree with Pedro Raul and Vinai can’t go back to ask for an external infusion of money. Kroenke can offer it u prompted based on his own observations. If I were Kroenke …and Raul along with Vinai came to ask me for more money, It would be a sackable offense. It’s like saying you want to keep running the business in a bloated manner. Let them cut the fat first; -streamline certain parts of the business – there’s too much duplication of duties in the back room. -They shouldn’t have a business model that pays back-up players more than… Read more »
Pedro
Again no one is suggesting we get Peter Risdale in to run the business.
Marko, because business doesn’t work like that.
There has to be value in a sponsorship deal.
Will association with X brand result in an uplift of sales for my X
Sir John Chippendale “Chips” Keswick sits on the board of Arsenal for two hugely significant reasons –
1. He is an Old Etonian, a former chairman of City bank, Hambros and a director of the Bank of England. He can open doors to the British establishment and money men who may find Sleazy Stan is not to their taste.
2. To obediently do everything Kroenke asks him to do without question.
Marc,
You are suggesting a Peter Risdale strategy and calling it good economics.
“Hi Boss,
So I’ve sold 3 players (assets) that are down on our books as having a value of £75 million for £3.59. It has cut the wage bill though.
Oh yeah could I have £100 million to replace them with?”
Businesses don’t generally go to the market to ask for cash injections for hire, stating the reason is they are so badly run they can’t shift previous bad hires. Maybe that’s the problem at the end of the day because we’re talking about a football club here and not a business. And I don’t agree with the notion of a club in trouble going to it’s billionaire owner who’s never contributed before and asking him to help now I don’t agree that that’s incompetent or embarrassing. Let’s be honest here we’re only going to improve with investment and an overhaul… Read more »
Aston Villa did the same thing. They’ve only just recovered.
Pedro
No I’m not. Risdale bet the farm on getting CL football or better. I’m asking for an advance in our allowance.
I should also add that in return for the investment there would have to be a condition that the money go on a player with at least potential resale value.
Pedro
‘Dissenter, the 32 corp boxes still available is a big story’
You need to realize that not everything is a localized Arsenal problem.
You don’t think the Brexit induced flight of financial services [and other moneyed business] back to the continent has anything to do with this?
Don’t you realize that many heavily rollers have moved away from London in recent years to places like Monaco or even Singapore.
Banks have moved $1 trillion away from London in recent years
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/investing/brexit-banks-moving-assets/index.html
Marko, Football is a business and the problem with the game isn’t that not enough clubs don’t go to their owners for financial doping. Quite the opposite. Everyone is waiting to see if there’s a consequence for this sort of behavior. You don’t think it’s incompetent because you are a fan and that sort of rationale makes sense to you. Stan is not a fan. Never has been, never will be. He buys businesses and has consistently expected them to run properly. The strategy of investing his own money is like him trying to get out of a roulette hole… Read more »
Also, there is a grim record of clubs that invested that little bit extra to make the elite and failed miserably.
What’s the record on owners who have invested zero and don’t help out one iota? I bet that’s pretty grim too
Completely agree with you.
Moving ozil is tough but no excuses really for not replacing Xhaka, Mikki and Mustafi.
I mean it shouldn’t be that difficult to sell xhaka at 35mil and get Ndombele at 70mil.
Or buy Fekir for 20mil + Mikki.
Swap Mustafi for any one of the bottom half EpL team’s upcoming defender??
Pedro: “Stan is not a fan. Never has been, never will be. He buys businesses and has consistently expected them to run properly. The strategy of investing his own money is like him trying to get out of a roulette hole by taking a loan out.”
This is the essence of our predicament.
Marko,
How many times do you think Daniel Levey went begging to Joe Lewis last season?
Why do I constantly get Liverpool’s and the Spud’s owners rammed down my throat as putting money in and yet the moment the idea that Kroenke puts £50 million in to lube our summer transfer business it’s a stupid fucking idea?
“How many times do you think Daniel Levey went begging to Joe Lewis last season?”
How much did the Spud’s spend last summer?
The empty corporate boxes isn’t n industry wide issue.
The financial services [and businesses allied with them] were the biggest clientele of these boxes. They are shifting away resources [money and staff] away from England.
Marc,
Spurs are one of the most frugal clubs in the EPL and Liverpool pulled themselves out of their hole buy wheeling and dealing. There was no cash injection. They spent what they earned. The net spend of Klopp was zero for two seasons. We’ve talked about this 100 times.
It’s a stupid idea to think that Stan is going to hand over £50m after the transfer window being open for 6 weeks.
Pedro
Do you think it’s unbecoming or needy to request Stan help us ‘take a loss’ so to speak on some players earning good clobber?
That way we can reorder matters moving forward and truly step in the right direction. I’m talking taking low ball fees for Ozil, Mkhi, Mustafi, to turnover previous errors.
It’s less gimme money for our project and more, gimme some leeway to implement our project without the headaches.
Pedro
I didn’t say I think Kroenke will – I said it would make business sense.
Of course if it was going to happen it should’ve happened 5 minutes after the final whistle in the EL final.
Also worth remembering… the club were leaking £40m transfer budget in November.
This is not news to Raul or VV. It’s not a surprise, they’ve had a very long time to digest what that number means for their plans.
“Liverpool pulled themselves out of their hole buy wheeling and dealing”
But the concept of Sanllehi doing that is met with revulsion on here.
The strategy of investing his own money is like him trying to get out of a roulette hole by taking a loan out. Makes sense. What’s the equivalent of him not investing a penny into arsenal? Buying a lambo and keeping it in a dusty basement I suppose. Anyway I can see where this is goin but I wholeheartedly disagree. Given the current circumstances it shouldn’t be seen as incompetence to ask the owner of a football club to do more than nothing. What was the height of incompetence was an owner doing nothing while the club deteriorated to the… Read more »
Marc
If you were Kroenke, would you infuse £50 million into a business that has not shown it has changed?
Pedro is right, businesses aren’t run in the way you re suggesting.
Businesses adapt to negative environment by down sizing and cutting back.
No business savvy person escalates spending when the business climate is less conducive.
We haven’t cut the fat yet. Kroenke is well advices to not throw money at the problem.
Your Arsenal emotions are plodding you on my friend.
Dissenter
So you’ve never heard of someone buying a failing business and investing in it to turn it around?
And I’m not suggesting that Arsenal are a failing business – we’ve been a badly run one.
If the Zaha deal does come off, it leads me to wonder what we will do on the right wing. It makes no sense to splurge 60-70m on one side and have Iwobi on the other. 5e hope is that sales and hidden funds will enable us to get Fekir in on the other flank. He’s know as a CAM, however Emery even played Ozil wide in a front three which tells me it is his preferred formation, as opposed to playing a N.10 centrally… Could we see a front three next season of: Zaha Auba Fekir With tierney and… Read more »
Hold on I thought we brought in the sky Aussie team to do contracts not Raul ?
RSPC
I thought the “Aussie” team did the player contracts Sanllehi is doing the deal with the clubs to buy the player.
Of course they will be overlap with incoming transfers.
Marc,
People buy failing businesses and do what? Spend a shit ton more on wages?
Of course they don’t. They obliterate anything perceived as excess, they restructure things properly, they ruthlessly chase efficiencies and they make level-headed business decisions.
Marko,
The equivalent is the rebirth at Dortmund who were nearly bankrupt in 2007ish.
Or Atleti, Ajax, Spurs, Liverpool, Lyon, Lille… there are quite a lot of examples of well-run clubs that don’t need sugar daddy money.
Amen to what Dissenter wrote.
RSPC, Huss does contracts.
Kroenke to Raul and Vinai … teleconferencing on Cisco Telepresence
-Why are you signing 18 year olds for 30 million to loan back for one season when you don’t supposedly have enough money?
-Why do you still have transferable players with funds generating potential providing back-up when there are cheaper alternatives from the academy ?
-Why are you quick to increase the wages of one season wonders to 70k weekly when you don’t have enough money
-Why haven’t you shifted out even one of the players that are poor value for money aka dross.?
Dissenter I doubt Kroenke is asking any questions. If he was someone who asked questions we wouldn’t be in this mess. Height of hilarity if they first time Kroenke actually runs the rule over the club is when someone asks for funds. If Kroenke’s entire premise is use what you have Arsenal are a Europa League team for the foreseeable and fans will need to adjust their expectations to that level. He deserves everything that’s coming to him if that’s the approach. He sat back and allowed Arsenal to get into this state and then sues the type of scrutiny… Read more »
It’s a stupid idea to think that Stan is going to hand over £50m after the transfer window being open for 6 weeks.
I agree. It’s also seemingly stupid to think that Stan might help out in any way possible with Arsenal
Also it’s so totally pointless bringing up Dortmund or whoever in the early 2000’s cause it has absolutely no bearing on Arsenal in 2019. That Swiss ramble ramble could probably do with being posted again but no Stan certainly can’t help us out
Marc ‘So you’ve never heard of someone buying a failing business and investing in it to turn it around?And I’m not suggesting that Arsenal are a failing business – we’ve been a badly run one’ You asked a flawed question and provided a brilliant riposte to your laughable question. Brilliant We’ve been badly run but the new management team have not yet shown thatn] they are capable of doing the dirty to move out dross players. They even increased Guendouzi’s wages to a whopping 70k weekly for one season of average football. That was shambolic management. Harry Winks had had… Read more »
‘Harry Winks had had two seasons of good football, plays for England and played 45 mins in the CL finals ———- Mr Levy does not pay Harry Winks 70 k weekly.’
Right has this Guendouzi contract happened?
Because I see 1 or 2 always referring to it and I’ve seen nothing.
Arsenal FC still carries too much visceral fat and has too much cash in the bank to be asking for a bailout from the owner.
Bailouts certainly didn’t help AC Milan, they still have to do it the proper way.
CA,
Matt Scott tweeted that Stan always asks questions and they are almost always geared around money.
Dissenter,
About right to me. There are so many things to fix in our control. It’s not smart to handover cash favors.
Also… I just don’t think Raul and VV would think that a smart move. They’re just as much about preservation as Ivan and Wenger.
Cesc
None of us has access to the players paychecks, that would be confidential info I think.
Newspapers broadly covered the wage increment Guendouzi got. If true, It was Wengeresque and shows that not too much has changed.
No business savvy person escalates spending when the business climate is less conducive. Again this is the problem looking at it as a business and not a football club. Stan does nothing for the club and there will be a time again where we won’t need Stan’s help but right now we could do with some help if the reports of failing finances and meagre transfer budgets are to be believed. I also don’t agree with the business savvy person doesn’t spend in this climate nonsense. That’s actually been a massive problem with how we did things for years not… Read more »
Dissenter
No they didn’t, it was all speculative rumour. I’ve seen nothing about a bumper pay rise actually happening. Usually you get a press release about a contract signing.
‘Matt Scott tweeted that Stan always asks questions and they are almost always geared around money.’
The extent of his questioning must have been the exchange rate from pounds to dollars because it can’t have been anything of substance seeing as he presided over an absolute economic mess.
Fans predicted it for years, a billionaire businessmen supposedly asking questions of the club didn’t?
Two possible reasons for that. Not sure which is worse.
Dissenter / Pedro A sports franchise is a little different than a business business. If you are not in the mood for winning and staying competitive, then no need to be an owner. You end up being hated and then selling your team for less than its worth when it constantly loses value. If you want to make it grow in value, you need to invest. Of course, you must manage the team better- cut deadwood, contracts etc. Why isnt that also part of Stans responsibility? If he really cares, Jr would be back, and working with the team to… Read more »
You asked a flawed question and provided a brilliant riposte to your laughable question.
Nice. And then goes on to say “They even increased Guendouzi’s wages to a whopping 70k weekly for one season of average football”. I mean they haven’t that was just a rumour (much like the Chilwell stuff) but don’t let a silly little thing like a fact or truth get in the way of a good point
A big problem is the owners and string pullers are not really football people.
Old gambling proverb you have to speculate to accumulate.
Or is Stan hesitant now cos Wenger robbed him.
So once bitten twice shy.
If the fans moan all it does is affect the players if they care.
Only thing certain is that this mess will take at least 5 years to clean out the stains
Marko
That thing with Matty could have been in contract. Play a certain amount of games gets a bump up…
I’ve seen impromptu interviews given by Kroenke in odd places like a construction site or airport tarmac when he shows that he knows a lot about his sporting businesss stateside.
He knows the players drafted by his organizations, especially the quarterbacks.
I still don’t understand why Kroenke was so unquestioning of the shoddy decisions Gazidis and Wenger made from 2016-2018
Why is why he may not be so pliable with the new managers at Arsenal.
Marko
Can you direct your pettiness elsewhere.
Marc asked a flawed question and retracted it back in the same breath.
Guendouzi’s wage increase was widely reported .
It was extensively discussed here and some posters like gambon thought it was justified based on his starting role and CIES football observatory rating.
When you have your own business, escalate spending when there is a business downturn.
RSPC.
5 years to clean out the stains.
Trouble being no matter what you put on
some stains they just will not go.?🤮🤧🤧
“Stan is accountable. Plain and simple.”
Guns:
Sadly, Stan is accountable only to himself. He owns us 100% and is answerable to no one.
Guendouzi’s wage increase was widely reported
Yeah but it wasn’t true though was it so you trying to pass it off as true to strengthen a point you’re making makes it fair game.
When you have your own business, escalate spending when there is a business downturn.
Okay. And when I own a football club when they’re struggling I’ll actually help as well
‘Okay. And when I own a football club when they’re struggling I’ll actually help as well’
Or step in when the warning signs of oncoming turmoil appear and stop the struggle from even happening.
Cesc
I’m sure you knife we have always declared large cash-in-hand balances in every financial statement.
Why dies the owner need to bail out a club that still has huge [by any standard] cash balances?
Marko
Most of what we discuss here are based on what is reported in the tabloids. No one here [as fas as I’m aware] has access to confidential personnel information from Arsenal FC
How many times have you written about player wages including Ozil 350k weekly wage even though these aren’t incontrovertible facts?
Do I hold you to the same standard?
*I’m sure you know
Pedro
Your attitude regarding kroenke is odd.
Whether you’re of the opinion that he should spend or not spend, the main issue is that he doesn’t care.
He is not focused on arsenal.
A club of arsenal’s stature needs committed and competent leadership.
Stan is negligent.
Fans who cough up for tickets have a right to expect and demand more.
Do I hold you to the same standard?
Yeah but you’re trying to pass off something as a fact instead of a rumour. I’ll give you an example they increased Guendouzi’s salary to a whopping 70k as opposed to I believe or I think or they may have increased Guendouzi’s salary to a whopping 70k. You see the difference? Look nevermind.
‘A club of arsenal’s stature needs committed and competent leadership. Stan is negligent.”
Yes…from a failure of proper oversight of his hired managers. Its not because he didn’t spend money or approve the odd 50 million of his money.
Stan Kroenke’s net worth is approximately $9billion.
Based on his inept leadership and financial negligence over the past few years at AFC, in allowing W & G to run slipshod over things, I reckon he should sit down with his financial advisors and go through the books.
He may find he could have been worth a few billion more.
Negligence to the extreme.
Marko
You may have missed where I write “if true” about the reports
“None of us has access to the players paychecks, that would be confidential info I think.
Newspapers broadly covered the wage increment Guendouzi got. If true, It was Wengeresque and shows that not too much has changed.”
If true
If true
if true
Just in case you missed it earlier
Grahamn 62,
” He may find he could have been worth a few billion more.”
Lol…Now you’re worrying about the financial value of Kroenke?
That’s a new line of attack.
How many billions have you made to qualify you to give financial advice to a billionaire who has doubled his money invested in Arsenal without spending a penny.?