Disasterclass summer. Do the numbers point to a rational explanation?

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Ok, ok… so is it time to start getting angry on Twitter?

Should I be at the Kroenke out protest?

Should I strap a camera to my face and VENT for the good people of Youtube?

I think it’s nearly that time.

We are a week away from preseason, we haven’t sold a notable flop, we haven’t purchased the 8 players I was SURE we’d bring in. I don’t even have a slick new haircut from Theo Walcott to excite me.

We’re basically rolling into preseason like this was peak-Wenger 2012.

I’m half expecting Emery to roll in with a French accent and say something like, ‘we look for maybe one special talent, but we will not pay over the odds.’

I still remember 2008 when Wenger told us he’d surprise us with a signing, then dropped Silvestre! Good times.

There’s certainly a disorder with Arsenal fans that we picked up from the halcyon days of ‘WENGER KNOWS’ and I call it retroactive intellectualism. It’s where you find sense in chaos. It’s a comfort blanket to project a plan where there is none.

I’m rolling with that today…

Raul must know that what he’s being served up under Emery is flatulent and unlikely to move us to where we need to be. I know from speaking to people in and around the club that things aren’t going well. I think our exec leadership will know this as well unless they aren’t talking to people. Which come to think of it isn’t beyond the pale… surely if someone walked down to the training ground and saw the bus driver giving the team speech, they’d say something?

I digress…

So, is it possible that we’re writing off this season as an inexpensive transition moment? We blood the kids, keep our powder dry and wait for the arrival of Edu to whom all responsibility for success will lie?

That could be the plan.

Alternatively, we could just be witnessing a botched attempt at a summer because we have zero leverage in the market. We have a severe cashflow issue, a bloated wage bill, expensive players no one wants, and too little money to bring in the players we do want.

The money side of things is utterly staggering. But it all comes down to so many people at the club being ok with coasting back in the day. We didn’t make hay when the Champions League was giving us a monster advantage. We let great managers pass us by. We were dominated by the presence of yesteryear. Now we are paying the price because we are starting from scratch.

That said, as I’m writing this, I feel very depressed. Arsenal has spent the last 15 years bemoaning what they DON’T have instead of working out how to make the most of what they DO have.

You work with the tools you are handed. You find an edge. You hire people that are cunning. You find market disruptors who find value under the rocks that no one is looking under. In my job, can I pay the best wages? No. Can I hire the greatest creative talent on earth? No. Do I moan? Yes. But I find a way because if I don’t, there’s no job for me. That’s the same in EVERY industry. Just fucking get on with it and find a way. There are enough talented players to go around. Technology is BOOMING. Incredible people are there for the taking. We need a driving force at the club that cares about one thing, and one thing only… making Arsenal the best they can be.

Who do we have doing that at the moment?

We’re competing in the second tier of experienced players by the looks of things. Carrasco, Zaha… instead of hunting out elite young players with a couple of seasons under their belts like BVB. To be fair, Tierney would fit that mould, but we should be bringing in 5 like that.

I felt like Sven Mislintat was our explorer. Someone that’d do things differently. Something that’d attempt to restructure the way we find advantages with talent. We’ve lost that hustle, and the worrying thing is it’s because Raul doesn’t believe in that approach.

We’re hunting for rebirths in a network of dodgy agents. I hate that. We’re trying to make a marquee signing of Wilfried Zaha. Good player, but really?

The industry of football is moving towards intelligence and we’re anchoring ourselves in the cigar smoke-filled world of the contacts game.

It. Is. Sad.

But hey, maybe we’ll sign Pepe today and I will come CRAWLING back on my hands and knees begging for your future clicks.

We’ll see. Hope is all we have. And each other. I love you guys.

xx

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Marko

That’s your strategy, the idea folk have flexible opinions is impossible for you to compute.

That’s you alright flexible. Are you bloody serious.

Champagne charlie

Assuming the bid of 40 mil is true, what is the purpose of that given it’s never getting the player?

So it’s officially aired publicly?
So Zaha’s camp can fight for something?

It’s 45 plus Chambers and a loanee, we don’t have the cash and that’s the only currency we’ve got to work with.

Marko

I still maintain we’re going to look foolish if we end up spending a kings ransom for Zaha while Ziyech goes somewhere else for considerably less or even Fekir goes for 30 blips. My god his chemistry with Lacazette alone is worthy of consideration

Pierre

We have a manager who when we are winning jumps up and down on the sidelines waving his arms and pointing to where he wants the ball played …..watch him when we need a goal to get back in the game ….nothing, slumped in his seat , scratching his chin , waiting for the inevitable defeat..

Gentlebris

I have been saying here that we would do Zaha, it made sense from the first mention.
I analysed all the reasons.
I even mentioned £40m(+Mikki) here yesterday as the figure.

Some maintain here Stan K gives no rat ass about the Fan’s emotions. When you account for the storms that gave birth to Wenger’s sacking, to think Kroenke feels he could sit back and let the fans moan much as they want is a stupid line of reasoning.

Zaha is coming and I’m happy!

And bless Zaha’s brother for coming out to make those very fine comments.

Marko

I would not pay 50 million for Zaha while we need CB’s fuck no. You could probably nearly get Saliba and Upamecano for 50 odd million

Champagne charlie

Marko I’m not cursing on a daily basis about last season, I said a month back that I’d change the manager firstly but I’m not expecting that – and we can still challenge next season for top 4 with emery. So again, dribble left and right, but it’s there if you want to go back and read it. Rewriting a context to suit you is so very Marko. We had 6 games left, were in 3rd, and played sides below us in the league. If Emery was worth his salt he’d have navigated us home to top 4 given he… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“As per @SkyKaveh Arsenal have submitted opening bid for Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha. No players offered yet as part of proposed deal. Will be rejected & is getting predictably ugly. As previously reported Zaha wants to join #AFC & Emery wants him but #CPFC want huge money”

From Ornstein.

So again I say, what was the point of our 40 mil bid? Does it trigger something formally? Does it give the Zaha’s fuel to make an exit Strat?

On the face of it, just seems to be something capable of fucking Palace off.

DUIFG

Just read that Swiss ramble piece, great analysis. Lays bear 10 years of lies that all we needed was to move stadiums and the rest would follow.

The stagnation and ineptitude has been incredible

Gentlebris

‘..watch him when we need a goal to get back in the game ….nothing, slumped in his seat , scratching his chin , waiting for the inevitable defeat..’

Pierre you are some man!

You made it sound like Wenger would big up and do elite things to get a goal when we needed goals back in the day.

Pierre

I stand by what I said in January that the club do not trust/ rate Emery hence the reason why no funds are forthcoming.

They gave him the rope to hang himself with the Suarez debacle which basically confimed that he has serious lack of judgement when it comes to analysing what the team needs.

DUIFG

If we get Zaha we must have a bigger pot of cash, as that cb lb stiuation is getting dire

Guns of SF

SO Sky is reporting this…
1. It can be to appease the fans, as we all know that Palace will reject it.
2. It can be real, with some other details we do not know… player swaps, etc… perhaps as a first bid hoping that Palace come down to about 50-55
3. Zaha bro is auditioning to be an agent someday

Champagne charlie

I read Zaha’s brother IS his agent…

Receding Hairline

Raul is shithousing Palace. Player wants move so let’s see how it goes. None of our players will willingly join Palace though bar Chambers and a few kids on loan.

Gentlebris

‘So again I say, what was the point of our 40 mil bid? Does it trigger something formally? Does it give the Zaha’s fuel to make an exit Strat?’

Yeah, we should have gone in with a £100m bid and put Auba on top.

Receding Hairline

Or maybe Pierre they aren’t any funds to give. The Suarez you are fixated on has completed a permanent transfer to another club by the way. Time to let go don’t you think? Or maybe not judging from Ozil, you mate for life

Champagne charlie

Not sure about none of our players wanting to join Palace, they’re London-based so it wouldn’t require any upheaval, and they pay silly wages eg Zaha, Benteke, Meyer, Sakho all 100k plus earners. Connor Wickham earns 60k LOL.

Guns of SF

Send Ozil to Palace….. still stays in London… still stays shit, but can be shitty with Palace….

Marko

No idea how Sarri delivered 3rd, league cup final, and EL winners with players he didn’t buy, some kind of wizard.

Ha is this one of those instances of context and objectivity from yourself. My god how was he able to do it with players who have previously won actual league titles while our squad had how many league titles? Wizardry alright. He also spent 137 million on two players last summer. Oh my

Dissenter

“I stand by what I said in January that the club do not trust/ rate Emery hence the reason why no funds are forthcoming.”

Arsenal is neither that proactive nor organized.
Will you transfer this hatred to the next manager of Arsenal not named Arsene Wenger?

Cesc Appeal

Ornstein expects it to be rejected (obviously) but says Arsenal have not offered any players yet as part of the deal.

Uses the word ‘ugly’ to describe how things are going.

You’re going to have to kick to get out Zaha.

Gentlebris

We were not unlocking teams, they sat back and picked us out on the counter, and we could do no shit about it and that was the most horrible situation last season, more horrible than an horrible defence line.

So get Zaha first and then try your best on the defence.

Receding Hairline

Charles name one player we have that will move to Palace willingly to appease them

Mkhi? Not with his agent

Ozil? Nah

Iwobi? Yes I can see that happening but only just

Mustafi? Back on top thinks he is a top player

Elneny? Don’t think his market value covers the deal

Nelson? Maybe a two year loan, definitely not permanent

Cesc Appeal

I think Palace are on the end of what a lot of teams experienced when Barcelona would come for one of their players. Palace cannot be as stubborn as they are being, Zaha is absolutely vital to them, so far he’s been quite amicable in terms of publicly saying Palace should do everything they can to come to an arrangement with Arsenal. If Arsenal offer £40 Million in cash plus add ons and a player and another player/loaned youngster and Palace say no £100 Million…pretty hard to look Zaha in the eye if you’re them and not expect a downing… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Marko

Oh none of our lot have won anything in their careers?

Sarri signed Kepa and Jorginho, drum up their fees all you like but Leno is better than Kepa and Jorginho makes Xhaka look like Vieira.

Pierre

Dissenter
first and foremost I want a manager who will address the defence, for some inexplicable reason Emery failed to do this from day one despite Arsenal signing 5 defensive based players .

That would be a start …..offensively we have the quality to create and score goals, we managed 73 this season despite of Emery not because of him as he was never consistent in his team selection and as I mentioned earlier , Emery hasn’t a clue how to chase a game in the closing stages .

Champagne charlie

Zaha just scored against Namibia, interested to hear any post-match words there Wilf…

‘just focusing on my country’ comes to mind

Receding Hairline

Ornstein just won’t drop the budget talk. Keeps repeating it anytime we are linked to a player like he takes pleasure in it.

Marko

Oh none of our lot have won anything in their careers? You’re not getting it I’ll help you out. Chelsea have as a squad actually won the league title together with by and large the same squad. Arsenal haven’t won a league title in going on 15 years. Ozil won a league title like 6 or 7 years ago. Lichtsteiner was a serial winner but perhaps he’s not a good example to use if you’re trying to make out that the squad inherited isn’t that bad. Irrespective of how you feel about Kepa and Jorginho it’s still 137 million added… Read more »

Marko

Ornstein just won’t drop the budget talk

A reported 40 million bid on top of bids for Tierney and Saliba…I think we can assume that the 45 million budget stuff is hogwash at this stage

Marc

Marko

Either that or we have buyers lined up for some of the players we want to shift on.

Marko

I’m sure we do Marc but still the budget stuff doesn’t fly

DUIFG

What’s interesting is signing zaha is a bit like saying fuck build up let’s get it to a man who can skin people. It’s all a bit basic.

I’m not knocking zaha as I think he’s good and effective, but it worries me that he’s a sticking plaster over emery basically having no clue on how as a team we can create chances

Champagne charlie

“Irrespective of how you feel about Kepa and Jorginho it’s still 137 million added to the squad”

Irrespective of quality the price is all that matters? Makes absolute sense.

I don’t care if it’s £8.50 or 85 mil, what matters is what’s added, not what’s spent. If Arsenal don’t spend a shilling this window but somehow bring in better players than we lose then I’m all for it.

Safe to assume you’d be utterly distraught tearing at your flaps because we’ve not spent 100 mil.

CG

Quite extraordinary that we have made a bid for Zaha July 1st ( mid summer) and a week after CP sold a player for £50 000 000. Why was not this bid made- as soon as the season finished and before CP sold anyone.? Palace – hold all the aces as a consequence. When Danny ings goes for £20 000 000 – dont think £40 000 000 for Zaha is going to quite work.. OFFER £65,000 000 cash ( take it or leave it offer ) And get on with your job, man And naive posters think Raul is a… Read more »

DUIFG

Zaha as a standalone talent is quality. His stats forget the fact to borrow an nfl term he goes into double coverage every game. People try and neutralise him to kill Palace. With us maybe that won’t be so effective

Elmo

Thank f*ck Simon Jordan no longer owns Palace. Would be too much to take having him mug us off in the press like John W Henry did with Suarez and the £40m+1.

Champagne charlie

DUIFG

That’s it in a nutshell, these folk who are translating his goals/assists aren’t looking full picture imo. Zaha is their entire strike force, the devastation and sheer uncertainty/space he’ll create for the likes of Auba/Laca, even Ozil/Mkhi is why we want him.

I also happen to think his raw stats will scale up surrounded with better quality, and possessing the ball more in a given match. I’ve had him as the best player outside the top 6 since Mahrez moved from Leicester. Offers loads of what we lack, I’m sold on a 50 mil offer tbh.

TR7

I think anything in the range of £55-60M will seal the Zaha deal. £40M plus Chambers could work too.

Marko

Irrespective of quality the price is all that matters? Makes absolute sense. Well that’s good to hear so the next time all that crap about 70 million spent and the defence still being wank you’ll take into account what the 70 million was spent on and the quality of individuals like Lichtsteiner, Guendouzi and Sokratis? Well that would be objective of you. Safe to assume you’d be utterly distraught tearing at your flaps because we’ve not spent 100 mil. Yeah that’s exactly right mate cause I was absolutely delighted with all the hundreds of millions Arsene pissed up the wall… Read more »

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Really is all a bit sad what’s going on at our club.

Said this before sling the youths in.

Leno
Bel hold belik tier
Torr
Amn iwobi
Nelson Auba lacs

Bench
Wilcox
Medellin
Eddie

Be bold

Cesc Appeal

‘Be bold’

Be relegated.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Question that needs answering

Zaha just signed a new contract.

Why did we not make an interest earlier.

We can’t just have decided that Zaha is the one we want…

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Harsh
Cesc…

We need to do something radical

Marko

RSPC that team respectfully is nothing short of a pile of shite

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

People

Iwobi has said he is a central mid player.

Amn is a mid player

Can’t see the team that bad.

MidwestGun

So, is it possible that we’re writing off this season as an inexpensive transition moment? ——— I could almost accept this if this was true… but it seems more like we are trying but struggling almightily. To me, seems like we are set up to have a huge division in ideas for plans for this tw. Most likely upper management wants to go youth and smart young buys like Saliba, Tierney and Martinelli. Where as the manager Emery most likely wants players that can make an impact right away as he is on the last year of his contract. Hence… Read more »

JAMES WOOD

Tierney bid by Arsenal-Spurs -Everton and now Leicester
all rejected by Celtic for not realising the 25Million valuation.

Ishola70

So the club want to do most of their transfer budget on a winger.

This is a team that outscored the third and fourth placed teams season just gone, comfortably outscoring third place Chelsea.

But is a team that is badly lagging behind the top four in regards to conceding goals.

Let’s get the winger in over everything else.

Only at Arsenal.

We’ll score more goals than you, Arsenal! Arsenal”

Such an immature outlook the club has.

Unfortunately though the two biggest culprits for this team defensively are seen as regular first team players.

Only at Arsenal.

KAY Boss

Just don’t get why some think £40m is derisory. Zaha is good but if we are likely to spend more than what we just bid, then I side with Marko, there are other better alternatives to be had at less than half the price. Ziyech, Felix comes to mind.
It’s an opening bid and people must understand and should not expect is to go pay the the amount Palace need. Is it a release clause?

Marko

Joao Felix Kay? Atletico are trying to get him for 112 million. I think you meant Fekir.

TR7

‘there are other better alternatives to be had at less than half the price. Ziyech, Felix comes to mind.’

May be Ziyech is not interested in joining Arsenal

Dissenter

In 2016, Ornstein was 92 million off the budget.
We bid 92 million for Lemar after he stated the spending was over.

Marko

Venus Williams knocked out of Wimbledon by a 15 year old. She’s 39 but still that’s gotta sting

Guns of SF

I always felt the 40M was a smokescreen
Tienrey
Sailba
Zaha

Nice

Marko

TR7 Ziyech is on record as liking Arsenal.

Dissenter

*In 2017, Ornstein was 92 million off the budget

Guns of SF

still need a CMid

Dissenter

I really think Palace do not want to sell Zaha
Their premier league status revolves around him. How else will they get those penalty kicks and free kicks they rely on?

Ishola70

Dissenter

“We bid 92 million for Lemar after he stated the spending was over.”

Some are saying that was pure Jackanory now.

Who says the bid went in at 92m? The player himself wasn’t it.

I don’t remember his actual club saying anything. Just Lemar himself.

Strange that.

KAY Boss

Marko, I meant Fekir.
Ismail Sarr is also available.

CG

RSPCA

“””Question that needs answering

Zaha just signed a new contract.

Why did we not make an interest earlier.

We can’t just have decided that Zaha is the one we want…”””

exactly RSPCA ( my – you are an improving poster…)

Why are we now bidding derisory amounts for Zaha?

We should have been bidding on June 1st not July 1st

Will be interesting to hear Simon Jordans thoughts!

Like CG – he will always state The Truth!

Dissenter

Since when did 40 million become a derisory offer for Zaha?
What is this world coming to?

Zaha-mania is really unscrambling people’s judgment.

Graham62

Marko

Now she’ll definitely play with Murray in the mixed.

Marko

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/12/thomas-lemar-wanted-arsenal-liverpool-move-pulled-plug-says/amp/ Asked if Arsenal had bid as much as €100m, Vasilyev said: “I don’t want to confirm the figures but it was about that. It was too late to make all the components work – to find a replacement; reach an agreement. It was just too late. But in the end I am very happy because we always wanted to keep Thomas.” Lemar also confirmed that it just happened too late and he wanted more time to consider it. In hindsight delighted it didn’t happen but it goes to show not only was there still money available that could have… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“Zaha-mania is really unscrambling people’s judgment.”

Bit rich coming from someone who likely couldn’t pick Zaha out in a 6-man lineup. You’d bring back benteke for 40mil

CG

Regardless of what he costs.
Zaha will be a sensational signing though.

He has an Edge – we have been lacking. We have had too many Nice Pretty Boys for too long. Too many crybabies ( See Torreira in Baku).

He has lots of bottle and some spite. (note – he aint worried about the chaos he is stirring at Palace.)

I would actually make him Captain, too!

Up to the Clowns now- to sign him up.
If needs be:

Sell Torr The Myth
Jettison Teirney

Buy Zaha.

Its a no brainer!

Ishola70

He’s a bullshitter and crook that Monaco vice -president. Besides Arsenal probably knew they were too late and put the bid in knowing the rulings lol. What is the take here then? Are peeps on here saying that Arsenal have another 100m up their sleeves this summer? mmm nice. Can’t wait to see it. Let’s hope Arsenal don’t bid too late for Zaha as well this summer like they did with Lemar. How unprofessional bidding too late for a player. Unprofessional and probably a bit snide as well. And we ended up with a freebie swap with the patsy Armenian.… Read more »

Samesong

The players brother said he wants to move to Arsenal . Zaha himself wants to move to Arsenal. Palace can go on and on about big money but they will not get it. I definitely see this rumbling on.

Why keep an unhappy player?

Receding Hairline

People believe only what suits their agenda myself included, we bid 92mill for Lemar that is not in doubt. No one said we bid 92m in one installment though.

Up 4 grabs now

Good evening, We need a left back : Tierney 25 million We need a Centreback: saliba payment delayed if going back on loan? Holding might be back the start of the season? (koz plays a few games until fit, maybe even bielik/chambers covering) We need a xhaka replacement (again maybe bielik/chambers.) With guendouzi pushed forwards? Ramsay replacement : Zaha 50 million? Ozil is going nowhere so hope for a better season. Nelson, Smith Rowe, willock will come into the squad. That’s 75 million spent, maybe we also get a left field transfer choice on a free? You might see more… Read more »

Ishola70

There is no point bidding if it’s too late is there.

It’s like you saying that you were going to buy a Rembrandt at auction but the boys had already packed up and gone home.

Again what folks are implying on here is that Arsenal have a much bigger budget than the one advertised. Double in fact.

Well let’s see it. Let’s see this money come out of the pocket.

And no late bids this time please.

Dissenter

CC
I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about picking Zaha out a line up.
Talking to yourself in front of a mirror, are you?
That’s one of the cardinal symptoms of Zaha-mania. Let’s spend all our transfer budget on one player. just because you like him.

SurferX

Jesus.. that swissramble analysis is a car-crash.

Those last 5 years under Wenger hurt us BAD.

Champagne charlie

dissenter

Figure it out, you spent this morning thinking Brahimi played for Leicester previously before realising you were on about Slimani.

We’ve got deals for Tierney and Saliba in the pipeline, so you’ll have to explain how that’s possible with “all our budget” on Zaha?

Receding Hairline

Dissenter you haven’t actually outlined what your issue with Zaha is. All this Ziyech talk seems to have interfered with the way people actually see Zaha, a bit of revisionism ongoing. If it’s age its a mere months between them. Yes Ziyech had a good season playing for a team flying high, Zaha equally had a good season saving a team from relegation. Don’t tell me Zaha won’t tear up the Eredivisie cos he will

TR7

Zaha the new Mavraopanos for Dissenter.

Marko

Are peeps on here saying that Arsenal have another 100m up their sleeves this summer?

What? Are you alright ishola it’s pretty easy to get a few summers ago David Ornstein said we had no money left and then we bid for Lemar. Both the player and Monaco confirmed the bid so the idea that we had no money isn’t true. So therefore Ornstein was wrong (which is important to note when he constantly brings up the 45 million budget) and Wenger left funds unspent (which is noteworthy when the argument is that he always spent when he had available).

Dissenter

Receding I like Zaha a lot but he’s not worth anywhere near the fee being quoted. Our situation is already so dire that we can’t keep making these marquee signings that don’t really move the needle for us. We need to go back to the basics and start rebuilding our squad in a balanced manner. We need to start signing uber-talented youthful players with the half-decade in mind. Had Zaha been a 35 million no-drama signing, I would be all for it. Why do we have to give up the few transferable assets we have just for one player who’s… Read more »

Dissenter

“Zaha the new Mavraopanos for Dissenter.” How many times has anyone done an analysis that stated that Mavos is the key to the future of our defense? The answer is none, one even accounts for him when they talk about fixing the center of the defense. The lad was over-hyped by you all based on 1.5 competitive games, one of which was a dead rubber at OT. AMN dominated Pogba that same game yet no one is beating his drum. My Mavros comments were measured and pin-point accurate. I’m glad it stuck a pin in all those hot air balloons… Read more »

Up 4 grabs now

Marko, I think there’s money but we’re playing poor so we don’t get fleeced by selling clubs.

If we get Tierney and Zaha for 75 million. Then it’s all about moving on xhaka and mustafi and the rest of the deadwood. To raise more funds.

Ishola70

It would have been so more straightforward though wouldn’t it if Arsenal actually brought Lemar for this 90m and paid him a handsome salary to go along with it.

But it didn’t happen did it.

Token bid from Arsenal knowing it was too late or that Monaco would refuse at such a late stage?

Not beyond the realms of possibility with the club and it’s spin doctoring in the past.

You ask Ornstein now if he was wrong that summer and he would probably reply well no not really because Arsenal didn’t actually buy the player.

Cesc Appeal

United’s clause in Zaha’s contract is capped at £15 Million apparently?

Graham62

Marko

The sceptic in me says that Arsenal bid £90m for Lemar knowing all too well that it would be way too late to get it through the system.

Dissenter

Ishola “Token bid from Arsenal knowing it was too late or that Monaco would refuse at such a late stage? Agreed that it was a token bid because there couldn’t have been enough time to do what would have been a british record transfer. These deals can be so complicated. That sad, we made that bid and had Monaco and the player been open to an expeditious process, we could have shelled out 92 million after Ornstein pronounced us done for the window. He didn’t see it coming because he reports after the fact. He certainly doesn’t have any ITK… Read more »

Graham62

Make Zaha captain!!

CG, sorry mate, you’re living in cloud cuckoo land.

Ishola70

A token bid is just that.

It means that you have no intention of actually going through and finalising it.

This Ornstein says we are paupers.

Let’s put in a token bid to Monaco to refute these claims from Ornstein.

Graham62

It was a PR stunt.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Gentlebris

Zaha has personally identified Arsenal as his place of peak. He wants to come in and make a difference. ‘All I want is an opportunity and I will do the rest’ Sheer confidence! Ok, let’s see Palace stop an already decided, determined Zaha. We could go to £50m or £60m, no more and we will do it. I don’t think we have to give them Chambers. Chambers could fetch good money on his own. Why should we when we have many difficult to shift pretenders that might interest them. Give them Mikki, he could do a job there anyway. No… Read more »

Jamie

It’s not just the crazy money it would take to buy Zaha, he’s already on £130k a week at Palace. Another £200k a week player on our books? No thanks.

Champagne charlie

Jamie

We’ve just flogged half a mil in wages, if Zaha is as desperate as is claimed to move to us he’ll sign circa 150-175.

Auba and Laca are that ball park and above, paying it for players that actually perform to that level is no issue for Arsenal. Its the Ozil’s and Mkhi’s on that money and more delivering 40k a week levels.

Marko

You ask Ornstein now if he was wrong that summer and he would probably reply well no not really because Arsenal didn’t actually buy the player. He was totally wrong I don’t know what exactly it is you’re arguing but saying that we’ve got no money and then bidding for a player pisses all over the idea of no money. The skepic in you is saying that we knew full well that the bid would fail because it happened late fits in nicely with whatever point it is that you’re trying to make. I would say bidding 90 million for… Read more »

bennydevito

Surfer X, now there’s a blast from the past. Been a long time dude.

Ebening Grovers, good post Pedro.

I’d be over the moon if we sign Zaha as I’ve wanted him here for a few years now and I can see him having exactly the same impact and raising his game with us as Ian Wright did.

However, if we blow all our budget on Zaha without rectifying our obvious defensive deficiencies that will be gross mismangement and dereliction of duty in my opinion.

Marko

Let’s put in a token bid to Monaco to refute these claims from Ornstein.

Yeah cause that’s how it works a clubs sole purpose is to get one over some journalist covering them. You’re starting to sound ridiculous. Player confirmed it and the club confirmed it but no Ornstein’s right we had no money we bid with Monopoly money

Ishola70

lol Marko the late bid doesn’t fit in nicely with any agendas.

It actually happened and the player was not signed.

Any agendas would be those indicating that Arsenal were actually serious in signing him.

It’s called spin Marko.

Redtruth

Zaha is Glen Helder in disguise. We need proven committed players not Ozil types who go missing in games.

Ishola70

Marko

Arsenal were big and still are on PR as they should be.

It’s a bit naive to think the club are above pulling PR stunts. They are not.

alexanderhenry

Pedro Spot on post. The info from swissramble is sobering stuff. To quote you: ‘We need a driving force at the club that cares about one thing, and one thing only… making Arsenal the best they can be.’ Yes, and why not the owner? If it’s not him than he has to appoint someone who does have that level of ruthlessness and drive, which amounts to the same thing really. Stan wants a hands free, easy ride from Arsenal fc, and that’s what he’s had- so far. However, if this TW ends up being as grim and non eventful as… Read more »