… so… to cut a long story short… THEY DIDN’T EVEN WANT HIM!
*the bar roars with laughter*
So funny, right? Milan didn’t even want Lucas Torreira.
What a charade.
Well, at least that’s one boring story laid to rest.
The Tierney rumours appear to be ramping up again, the deal looking like it’ll go through for £25m when all the add-ons and bonuses are stacked up.
That’ll be a great piece of transferring if he can stay fit. Having a rapid outlet to make the overlap will be beneficial, it’ll also be nice if he can defend as well.
… also, Jenks going the other way? Incredible biz if it happens. I appreciate the guy likes earning good cash money, but when do you start looking out for your career? When do you demand to play on the regular? When do you decide you want to be an icon in Scotland?
Now Jenks. Go, be free.
The Zaha stories are totally mental, Palace apparently has a £100m release clause in his contract. As an agent, when you’re sitting there with a broken player a few years ago, and Steve Parish asks to put that clause in your deal… how do you let that slide?
No one is going to £100m. No one is paying £80m for him. That would be an absurd amount of money to drop on someone that is 27 and yet to be proven at the highest level. I think all the bluster is because they ARE going to sell him, and obviously want to create the impression he’s way better than he is… a bit like putting Ferrari badges and a clip-on-bad-boy exhaust on your Ford KA back in the day. But I think I’d be a touch horrified if we dropped that much of a non-existent budget on him. It doesn’t feel clever, it doesn’t feel long-term and it doesn’t look anything like value.
I was hoping we’d be looking at making smarter buys. It is absolutely no coincidence we’re now being linked with Malcolm of Barcelona. We were in for him when the choice was him or Auba, Raul is apparently a huge fan of Malcolm, and the player kind of fits the bill. He’s a talent, he’s found himself on the outside at Barca, and Raul probably smokes cigars with his agent.
Would make sense as well… because he’d cost less and likely has a higher ceiling, more career longevity and Brazilians are way cool.
Right, that’s me done.
Happy Pride Day everyone! 🌈🌈🌈
Lari03 Nothing in the Swiss Ramble piece surprises me: AFC are in terminal decline unless something drastic is done. Looking at Vinai/Raul/Emery it’s doubtful whether they have the will, capacity or the power, On past performance, Stan will NOT put his own money into the Club. Furthermore, he is unlikely to greenlight Arsenal incurring further debt. As I said before, he must be wondering why he didn’t take Usmanov’s offer. As for those who say Arsenal is a long-term appreciating asset, the figures suggest otherwise. It’s a money-losing business, and the shares value of £30,000 has become a hollow joke.… Read more »
There is nothing surprising in that Swiss ramble article. Many Arsenal fans could see this starting to take shape since 2008-2010.
Wenger was and will always be the biggest Spin Doctor the world has ever witnessed. We should be thanking Myles Palmer for calling it more than 10 years back.
So Wenger and Gazidis were hand in glove right from the start. Le Fraud was the one who selected Gazidis after all. And Gazidis immediately left after the French Charlatan…..
As I said months ago, and Champagne Charlie mocked me, this club is between 5 to 10 years away from getting back to the top. That’s how bad a state that cunt Wenger left this club in. Shocking mismanagement. Fact noone has been in for him says it all. I mean even fucking Avram grant has been linked with Newcastle, but not wenger
‘getting RID of players on high salaries’
Just in February of last year, Wenger was still telling the world that it is ideal for players to reach the final year of their deal. It’s going to be commonplace, he said. The people losing their shit over Spurs signing Ndomblee better take note. There’s a lot hair pulling stuff to come. That was a net positive deal for them because they will sell Erickson for more that £65 million.. Pochetinno used the political capital of reaching the CL final and his earned loyalty for declining to leave spurs to steer the club to a better place. He threatened… Read more »
Someone here is still skiing me to prove the simple point I made when I wrote that ‘Wenger and Gazidis drove the club into a ditch’.
I hope the next time Wenger’s at Arsenal, the fans throw rotten tomatoes at him. Fuck me , even Bruce Rioch left a better base of players to work with than that french deluded cunt. Doesn’t matter who we buy this season, we will struggle to finish in the top 10. Our squads not good enough and neither are our youngsters. The only one who seems half decent is Beilek, and he wants out.
It’s exactly aiming for top 4 which is a kind of void of character or competitiveness rife at the club Top 4 is the minimum passable position for us. We were a couple of points behind 3rd this year but only aiming for 4th next year? Losers. They really are. You don’t aim for the minimum. It’s very easy to fall shy of your target. If you set low expectations and fall a little low you’re left with the shitty stench of failure just like this season We aren’t likely to be anywhere near the league winners next year but… Read more »
Swiss Ramble analysis is pretty much on the expected lines. In fact a little analysis of our finances will lead you derive similar conclusions. Hopefully all those who rubbished my claim that we can’t spend more than £50M this summer will now grudgingly accept it. We are staring at a bleak future for Arsenal. All the Stan apologists need to wake up as well. He is overseeing continuous decline of AFC over the years and doing absolutely nothing about it. Either a one time mega investment on players or an interest free unsecured loan to AFC equaling our outstanding debt… Read more »
englansbest ‘On past performance, Stan will NOT put his own money into the Club’ Your anger is not misplaced but you’ve been approaching this the wrong way. Where do you think the unspent transfer monies used to go to? It went into that unnecessary stash of cash we built up over the years. We have money that was derived from our business already sitting unspent. Liverpool only had £10 million and £4.4 million cash at hand listed in their last two financial statements. Why does Arsenal FC have as much as £89-150 million cash in hand? You ought to be… Read more »
Aiming for 4th sends the explicit message that we can afford to drop a lot of points because you can do that on the way to 4th
When 4th is your only target you can afford to lose against palace with a few games left because the targets are low
And with that shitty weak attitude and knowledge that dropping regular points is actually ok, oh shit you actually dropped a couple more points and bang goes your glorious dreams of a 4th placed trophy and instead you’re playing carrier bag again in Europe
Fucking cretins
TR7
Your analysis that we cannot spend more that 50 million are fluff and are dead wrong. It doesn’t take into account that cash in hand that’s clearly listed in every financial statement released.
You like to pretend it means something else other than the obvious.
Now that the limit on wage increases of only 7m a year has been removed by the EPL and increases doesn’t have to be funded from commercial income, does that mean that Kroenke can slip us some money for wages thereby freeing up more funds for transfers?
Theoretical exercise I know, but still.
“We aren’t likely to be anywhere near the league winners next year but the target should be third and ‘as close to them as possible’ whatever that means.”
Agreed, that should be our target. Aiming for fourth is rubbish. Like you said aiming for fourth was indeed why we played like brainless idiots against Palace.
Arsenal have serious problems that aren’t going to be fixed over night. Anyone who doesn’t take that on board is a fool but almost as bad are people making stupid comments about “Arsenal are finished”. TYAG’s comment above about struggling to finish in the top 10 is a precise example, we finished a point off 4th and 2 points off 3rd. Of the players we lost Welbeck contributed next to nothing and we’ve already replaced Cech with a better keeper. Ramsey is the biggest loss but his contribution last season was limited as he was mostly in and out of… Read more »
TR7
Your claim of only being able to spend £50 million this summer does not include sales.
That’s where we need to focus as much as on players coming in. The transfer window still seems to be in a holding pattern with very little activity. The next month will be very telling.
Dissenter
I have already explained twice why our budget should be in the £40-£50M range. If calling my analysis dead wrong and believing we can spend £89-£150M gives you a kick, well good for you. Whatever floats your boat…
Outside of Wenger I’ve never known a manager who no matter how much money they’re given doesn’t what to spend more.
If we have more than £50 million to spend with the problems we have we’ll spend it.
The Swiss Ramble analysis shows what a mess we’re in and who is responsible. Nothing for me to add to what has already been said. One thing that is interesting is that it shows that, notwithstanding operating losses,we are still sitting on piles of cash (albeit lower than a few years ago). So the key question for Stan and the management is: is there a way of using more than £45m of this cash for player acquisitions without triggering FFP? Pretty much everyone acknowledges that we have an unbalanced and an ageing squad which lacks a decent defence, width, and… Read more »
Marc
Of course transfer budget means ‘net spend’, not gross. Goes without saying
The cash at hand is a one time opportunity
It’s a fruit of our maladies and lack of direction.
That money [or some of it] has to be made available to kickstart the new era. The Saliba deal should have been funded out of it.
When Arsenal made a £92 million offer to sign Thomas Lemar in Aug 2017, the funding would have had to come out of this cash in hand had the player [and club] accepted the offer.
Words in a blog
Have a word with TR7 about that cash in hand/bank
He seems to think it means everything else but cash in hand.
Another poster came up and said spending your own earned money will violate FFP.!
“Have to say , the Adidas video is quality , it captures the real Arsenal .”
Of course you love this video Pierre, it shows your idol’s still there.
Words ‘One thing that is interesting is that it shows that, notwithstanding operating losses,we are still sitting on piles of cash (albeit lower than a few years ago).’ We had £231M cash as on March 31, 2018. We aren’t sitting on a large cash as on today. We are set to register heavy losses in FY 2018-19 which will erode our cash balance to somewhere in the range of £100-£125M. Keep aside debt reserve fund of £23M which is untouchable, we are talking about a free cash reserve of £100M at best. AFC also have to account for the contingent… Read more »
Lol Pierre lambasts negative fans as not real fans whilst spending half of last season speaking negatively about Ramsey emery and chums but it’s different when he doesn’t like things in the club. Not the same don’t you guys get it?
Pierre is a super fan. He has a full sized man pillow of wenger and has dozens of paintings of close ups of bugs’ faces hanging from the walls in each room. Plus he has even been to highbiy which we haven’t!!
To a very real extent the question is if we even had substantial funds to fill the positions where we need players would you trust those responsible to spend them wisely? Based on recent performance I’d say not. We don’t need more Xhaka’s, Mustafi’s or Mhiki’s which is what we’ll end up with if we take a punt on some mid-price ‘meh’ type player. Better to try to find the next Holding or a new Bellerin from the U23’s. At least if it goes tits up we aren’t going to have another waste of space sponging substantial wages that we… Read more »
Pierre has already bought Ozil’s new shirt.
Home and away, of course.
‘Keep aside debt reserve fund of £23M which is untouchable, we are talking about a free cash reserve of £100M at best’ Why do we need to have cash reserves of 100 million No other club in world football keeps this much cash available. It’s a silly way to run a business. The stadium commitment is already built into the operational budget. Everything else is included in the operational budget- this is the product of our failure to invest in transfers in the Wenger. When Arsenal tried to sign Lemar, where was the money going to come from? …it would… Read more »
TR7
Wasn’t having a pop – just highlighting the point that our sales will be critical. We should be able to bring in £25 – £30 million for Elneny and Chambers.
Highbury
Yeah but he could’ve waited until the left the shop before wanking over it.
Another point to be made about accounting for not qualifying for the CL league.
**That’s has NOTHING to do with the cash balance.
The wages have clauses in them that reduces player income if we are not in the CL. The size of bonuses are also contingent on CL qualifications and trophies. The players earn more when the club earns more.
**This has nothing to do with the cash balance.
Had we qualified for the CL, player wages and tickets would have gone up. All these issues are already codified in the budget.
Dissenter That ‘stash of cash’ is tied down into the loan agreements. And in the fearsome state Arsenal are in, it is even more needful to have some cash lying around. IMO there is no ‘easy’ way out. Even if Stan were to ‘throw’ money at the Club (highly unlikely), it wouldn’t be enough. It is the whole Club which needs a refit and a ‘get rid of”, The sheer number of backroom staff is crazy. As I have said before, most must be spending the day trying to look busy. Arsenal is over-staffed from top to bottom. The blame-game… Read more »
Pierre doesn’t buy shirts
He makes colored photocopies of Ozil’s shirts and posts them on the inside of his bathroom door.
I won’t spoil your early lunches by going any further.
Vinny “”””Adidas’ core values mirror ours, they’re progressive & innovative & their bold ambitions for the club & the partnership are aligned with our own.”””””” This man really is a clown… I have seen more substance and inspiration in a blancmange…. ‘Progressive and innovative ‘like: Signing the likes of Lich, Suarez Extending contracts to Elneny and Co. Playing Jenks against Palace? Giving your best player away to Juve Appointing a man as head coach no one ever heard of and doesn’t speak English! Losing finals 4-1! So Ambitious…. Such The Arsenal Way. (I bet Addidas are regretting this deal -being… Read more »
Dissenter/TR7, My feeling is that some of the cash balance will ultimately be used this transfer window. But it will be done (as ever) in a panic at the last minute, after a number of planned purchases fail to go through, either because we fail to meet sellers’ valuations or because we get outbid. Except for last summer, the pattern at Arsenal in the last few years as far as transfers are concerned has been to intend to be financially conservative, fail at getting intended targets, then splurge out at the last minute for second best alternatives. That’s partly why… Read more »
englandbest ‘That ‘stash of cash’ is tied down into the loan agreements’ That’s another never corroborated old wife tale. Why would the banks require a viable business; a never relegated club operating i]at the top of the most lucrative football environment in the world to keep 25-40% of its operating budget as cash? Are we the first business in the world to take a bank loan? Are we in receivership. Come on man, rethink these recycled stuff before you posted it. It’s like people saying Wenger built the Emirates. It makes no fukking sense. No one forces us to keep… Read more »
THE LOST DECADE, Been saying for years that Arsene Wenger was the biggest fraud in World Football, He got plenty of help along the way by clowns like the Arsenal board, Stan,Ivan and about 75% off the fan base , These clowns could not see the “ “forest for the trees”, It is an outrage what has been allowed to happen at Arsenal, We have been killed from within, We are owned and run by complete clowns, Will take another Decade to recover from this debacle if we are lucky, Regime change needed, Nothing Less.
‘The blame-game is unproductive. We all know Wenger and Gazidis were awful – but they have gone. And the season-ticket holders lack the will to get rid of the third villain. For the time being, we are stuck with Stan’ Nope it is not unproductive They have gone but the excreta they left behind is still stinking up the place. You’re not going to castigate the new people before knowing what they will do if you don’t consider what they are stating with. It’s got to be repeated because some are already trying to run a cover game to pretend… Read more »
Dissenter We need to stash cash because our revenue is low and expenses very high. Our cash balance was mega and ever growing till the time Wenger bought players on cheap and sold them for good money. Now that we struggle in buying quality players on cheap and struggle even more in selling them, the inherent weaknesses in our finances are coming to the fore. Take it this way – if a family barely manages to arrange 2 meals a day, how likely is it that the family will splurge its small reserve kept aside for unforeseen contingencies in a… Read more »
Dissenter
That’s the problem there are those on here who want to criticise the current managerial setup without conceding the point they are starting from.
By all means make reasoned comments on the current setup but to dismiss the issues they have to fix is just an attempt to re write history.
TR7 ‘We need to stash cash because our revenue is low and expenses very high. Our cash balance was mega and ever growing till the time’ I disagree You’re trying to rationalize an anomaly into normality Our revenue is always going to wax and wane but at the end of the day we are still a STABLE CLUB OPERATING IN A VERY STABLE ENVIRONMENT. Our revenue is tied with our status- the players earn less because we are in the EL and gate takings are adjusted as well. We don’t need this extent of cash balance. No other club in… Read more »
Edu is at Copa America. Hopefully, he can spot some up and coming youngsters.
Please no more signing of those old rejects. We couldn’t even get rid of ours.
I think people misunderstood Pedro. We need sauce not to win the league now but to establish a vision and a plan to get there. Something all fans can understand and get behind.
Dissenter
There is some truth to what you say but I think you’re also painting a far too simple picture.
Yes wages and bonuses go down without CL football but not in line with the loss in revenue. We’re about to post our second successive loss with no guarantee of stemming them in the next season or so. We need to be clever but careful as well.
TR7 I share your concern for caution but we rent being clever by leaving that money in a bank. It should be on a footballing asset which appreciates better than anything a bank can pay us. Wenger was saving this money in the bank for an extraordinary player that he never succeeded in finding. The club looked the other way because it made them look good and it disguised all the errors they were making. Now this money has become an albatross because it’s become a slush fund that’s hiding mediocrity. Liverpool have only 10 million in the bank and… Read more »
TR7 you admitted yourself that you didn’t take into account the new sponsorship deals like Adidas for example so the mini victory lap on predicting a 40-50 million budget is premature. One things for sure though Ivan did a fucking number on our club. The sheer incompetence of it all. But at the end of the day it’s irrelevant we are where we are and the only way we’re going to get out of the hole we find ourselves is to get back into the Champions League on the regular and the only way we’re going to be to do… Read more »
Last post was to Marc, not TR7
Martinelli in London, hope we don’t announce just him as our first signing, our fan base will go mental if we’re only getting in a player from the brazilian 4th division, not exactly an ideal start for him.
Would be nice if we could do Brahimi, Tierney, Martinelli and Saliba at the same time so we know there’s something is going on at the club.
Even nicer if we can announce a bunch of sales as well.
All Emery had to do was beat Brighton.
Leading one nil at half time.
He failed
He could not even do that!
And he will fail next season too.
Because that is his speciality.
Failing, Failing and Failing
£100 million disappeared up in smoke..
Then you wonder why you have falling revenues..( at Spurs expense)
You dont need Swiss Ramble to tell you that.
ARSENAL 1 BRIGHTON 1
Truth Hurts folks!
And Vinny thinks its progressive and innovative to keep him for next session.
Tick Tock…
“Would be nice if we could do Brahimi, Tierney, Martinelli and Saliba at the same time so we know there’s something is going on at the club.
Even nicer if we can announce a bunch of sales as well.”
Freddie, you’re far too in advance, it’s not Christmas yet.
Paul McDaid
Re: 11:55 post 01/07
Post of the day/ week/month/ year/decade.
For the likes of Pierre/ CG/ Victorious/ BobN16/ CC etc.
Read it and weep boys!
Welcome to my world Paul.
Marko
Mini victory lap ? Nah, I would be happier if I were wrong. Adidas revenue will reflect in our topline in the financial year ending in March 31, 2020. So, no impact at all on our current budget.
So new sponsorship deals are only taken into account next year? So we can’t spend the money like we already have it? Huh well I never
Tyag I’ll still mock you for claiming we’re a decade away from being back in the convo. We SHOULD have finished top 4 last season, we didn’t because of errors made by the current lot at the club over the run in. That in itself makes a mockery of the apparent dire state at Arsenal. Absolute doom and gloom merchants looking to shit on the club because of our balance sheet and poor use of wealth the last five years. It’s led us to here, and here is within a ball hair of top 4 -not languishing 10th in the… Read more »
“Adidas revenue will reflect in our topline in the financial year ending in March 31, 2020. So, no impact at all on our current budget.”
That’s not entirely true if we’re staggering payments into next season etc then we can look at guaranteed income for that period. It’s how we cope with this summer that’s the issue.
CC,
Sure we were close, very close, last season.
And the failure to capitalise on Chelsea, Spurs and Man U’s weaknesses last season is largely on the current regime.
The fact remains, we have an unbalanced squad. And we can’t rely on Chelsea, Spurs and Man U to fuck things up again.
I’m not interested in doom and gloom or on “shitting on the club”.
Only one thing interests me: if we still have cash on our balance sheet we should fucking well use it to rebalance the squad.
The Adidas deal is 300 million over 5 years that’s an extra 150 million that’s guaranteed. Now I might be wrong but I’m pretty sure that we don’t have to wait until March before we can start counting that as money we can spend. I mean it’s ours already we got the 60 million (30 million more) already
Marko/Marc
What I mean is we are not getting that extra deal money right now. Gives us an elbow room to be slightly more aggressive in transfer market provided we can link our payments with extra cash coming in as and when it comes in. In technical terms it does not increase our cash pot right now but your point stands.
I mean we only came close last season because Spurs and Chelsea nearly shit the bed. Predicted 5/6th place team finished outside the top 4 and has a bloated squad that they’re struggling to get rid of and has a most meagre transfer budget to fix things. Yeah it ain’t all that bad. I’m sure tyag hyperbole was more about 5-10 years before we’re back challenging for major honours which seems about right. Took Klopp 4 years at Liverpool before he’s challenged. I kind of regret this post actually cause it’s directed at someone who doesn’t think the squad is… Read more »
BREAKING NEWS
Arsenal in talks with Algeria international and free agent Yacine Brahimi following the expiration of his contract at Porto, Sky Sports News understands.
“I mean we only came close last season because Spurs and Chelsea nearly shit the bed. ”
They shit the bed..no nearly about it
Spurs finished the season with 13 league loses and 71 points
Chelsea made a two point improvement from the season before to finish third on 72
We should have finished the season on 75 points at least!!! That we could not beat Brighton both home and away last season cost us 4 points, and in both games we should have been out of sight in the first half
Woab I don’t disagree, but there’s always going to be inconsistencies at the other clubs and I don’t buy for a second this idea that’s born every summer that our rivals will all get better. Sure, plan for that, but it ain’t happening. Nevertheless the focus should be on us and you’re dead right, any resources available should go on the playing side to hasten change and evolution. We’ve lost wages galore already, Rambo, Cech, Welbeck, Licht is circa 450-500k. Of those I genuinely only see 2 necessary replacements (a deputy to Bellerin, and Ramsey’s goals/assists). So as I see… Read more »
In technical terms it does not increase our cash pot right now but your point stands. That’s guaranteed money though. And wouldn’t the first payment start at the outset of the contract not one year in? It’s like in 5 years time when we get someone else after Adidas that first year we’ll be counting the Adidas money into our budget and not say Nike for example? I’m not sure but I could be wrong. I think if we have improved revenue from the previous year guaranteed that we can think of that as money we can spend now cause… Read more »
Charlie you’re meeting one extreme with another. We’re Europa League team with a Europa League squad. No ones saying mid table relegation fodder. But at the same time if you expect champions league with this pile of shite you’ll be left wanting time and time again. I don’t know how many more years it’s going to take for you to realize that. 3 seasons now with largely the same group of players and they keep letting us down.
Marko
Yea and we miraculously wouldn’t be aEuropa league team if we beat Brighton at home, so spare me the assignment of a label. There’s 6 top tier teams in the prem and each season 2 are “Europe league teams”.
We’re in that bracket because we had Wenger fucking about, we then changed that and this guy displayed a cavernous arsehole when the pressure was on to miss out on goal difference.
Save me the technicalities. Next season we challenge for top 4, that simple.
This so unbalanced and unhinged squad- that wiped the floor with Man Utd 2 zip and then went 3rd with 6 Games to Go…. Then Emery does what Emery always does. Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory….with his inexplicable team selections… Elneny and Genduzi at Goodison Elneny and Jenks against Palace £100 million down the plug hole… Gone forever A Loosers mentality. Below is a better read than any Swiss Ramble Report: Arsenal 2 Palace 3 Wolves 3 Arsenal 1 Leicester 3 Arsenal 1 Everton 1 Arsenal 0 Arsenal 1 Brighton 1 Chelsea 4 Arsenal 1 And the people… Read more »
I notice the blame is going to the manager and not the players (when is it ever them for some??) but let’s break it down – Auba missed penalty against Spurs (2 points) …we would have finished on 72 points if he scores (champions league) – Xhaka drags down the Brighton player in the box ( 2 points there ) – Auba misses from a few yards in the second half against Brighton ( 2 points) Unless we are playing a video game and the manager is in charge of every muscle a player moves, it’s kind of surprising many… Read more »
Cc,
We may not have been dead for a decade, or even fucked for a decade.
But we sure have been Kroenked!
Anyway, here’s hoping that Raoul and Co will pull some rabbits out of a hat.
In the meanwhile, the lack of action to date is making me feel anxious, and I apologise, to use Marko’s immortal words, for “acting like a hysterical teenage girl.”
Save me the technicalities. Next season we challenge for top 4, that simple.
Right and as things stand don’t be surprised when we finish outside the top 4 again. You’ll be shocked no doubt because we should be finishing top 4 it’s only a declining Wenger and a cavernous arsehole that’s holding us back. Not yet realising that it’s a squad full of players that continually fails time and again.
Brahimi ….
I guess so.
Woab Again, wouldn’t disagree on the Kroenke front as far as making the step to title challenging club from the perennial top 4 one he’s overseen. But there’s enough on offer to get us in CL football again and the scrutiny ought to fall at those making the clearer error vs errors by omission. At least for now given our current state. Kroenke is a subject for when the footing is more stable imo. Receding It always falls on the manager, trying to reinvent the wheel of responsibility shows up your undying support for Unai. Paella on the breath and… Read more »
Marko
I’d be shocked depending the nuances of the season. If we’re 3rd with six games left against sides below us then yes, I’ll be shocked and embarrassed again. But there’s no expectation for top 4, just as there wasn’t this past season.
Same players? We’ve chopped and changed a number since three seasons ago. Auba, Mkhi Laca, Leno, Sokratis, Torreira, Guendouzi, Licht in just 6 months. Be a big boy and say what you want to say, Mustafi and Xhaka, your go to guys.
Receding it’s not even about individual instances or mistakes it’s a pattern that has been so Arsenal for years that we simply can’t shake. It’s been there for a long time but has particularly come to the fore the last 3-4 years. Let’s be honest here we’ve been lucky in more than a few seasons with making top 4 and eventually that luck ran out but the same characteristics were always there. The struggling away from home, the conceding of far too many goals, the conceding of far too much pressure in midfield and not controlling the game, going through… Read more »
to use Marko’s immortal words, for “acting like a hysterical teenage girl.”
I’ll admit I stole it from teen Vogue
Dissenter
Who needs reminding that Wenger and Gazidis were disastrous? A handful of nutty fans who believe that Arsene was God? You are stuck in a groove, man.
If the current hierarchy need reminding how bad the pair were, then heaven help us!
The jury is still out on Raul and Emery. Let’s wait and see what they do this summer.
But, face up to it. The problem at Arsenal is not just a deficient overpaid squad, it’s the whole current set-up. And focusing on the cash balance as a solution is just airy-fairy nonsense.
Brahimi apparently wants a big signing on fee £5-10 Million and then around £100 000 a week for 3 years. I get that we don’t have the luxury of choice very much this summer but we need to think long and hard about that one. Not exactly a great player, 29 coming to the EPL, could end up being another like Mustafi, Mkhitaryan, Ozil etc who we just cannot get off the wage bill. We are desperate for width though. Apparently West Ham spoke to him and decided against it. Real sad state of affairs at Arsenal. Hopefully we look… Read more »
Marko
Yes , one would imagine we ought to get money in tranches say £15M each quarter or in some other similar pattern. One thing is certain it won’t be entire money disbursed on the last day of financial year. It is probable Saliba’s transfer fee payment is linked with inward payment from Adidas especially because we don’t get to use him this season. Probably we won’t be paying his transfer fee until next 12 months.
Englandsbest
I think the point is though when judging the new lot you have to judge them in the context of what the incompetent and the charlatan left for them.
It’s like asking someone to build you a shed and leaving toilet roll and Pritt Stick and then saying ‘well let’s see how they get on’ not acknowledging you have in fact given them toilet roll and Pritt Stick.
Personally I just want to see an effort and running the club competently and reversing the moronic decisions and negligently mishandling of essentially every aspects of Arsenal.
Be a big boy and say what you want to say, Mustafi and Xhaka, your go to guys. No I’ve been very consistent in my criticism of the lot of them but it is worth noting that those two in particular are seriously hampering the football club given the amount of game time they get. If I was to tell you how shockingly bad Mustafi has been the last two seasons in particular and that he’s played in about 75 games you’d be flummoxed right. You’ll disagree but Xhaka since he’s joined has been by and large considered a poor… Read more »
“It always falls on the manager,”
Of course it does for you, the manager is the most important one for you. Once he is out and we have someone you like. probably Benitez now he is free, you will get down to the players
“Paella on the breath and all that.”
Forever a child bless you
You’ll have to explain the logic of Brahimi on 100k with a 5 mil signing on fee over extending Welbz on 100k, maybe negotiating less given his injuries?
Know very little about him other than him being a notable bosman. Suarez II?
“Brahimi apparently wants a big signing on fee £5-10 Million and then around £100 000 a week for 3 years.”
He wants a double your money deal
On about half of that at Porto.
Why not give him that but make it a two year deal with option for a second
Let’s be serious here What has AMN actually done in the appearances he’s made? He hasn’t demonstrated any exceptional qualities whatsoever. If he wasn’t one of our own nobody would rate him. He played well all of 5 times and wasn’t exceptional in any of those 5. He was also average and poor in several games as well and has demonstrated a dubious lack of motivation on the pitch (not just his languid style but also not bothering to chase back after losing the ball several times this season – also by being too casual) I’ll be as happy as… Read more »
For me, manager of a club is the most important figure. So Emery deserves stick for our horrible end to the season. You can’t tomtom him for an unbeaten run and then pass the blame on to Xhakas and Mustafis of the world when things go wrong. That he plays the duo so frequently is also his fault.
this new mob bought us Lich and Suarez. (and thats out of 6 signings so far not 60!)
So anything is Possible with these Muppets!
if they do sign This Brahimi chap – I would not be surprised one Jot.
They are so clearly clutching at Straws….
Tick Tock!
There’s red flags for sure regarding Brahimi. Signing on fee being one of them and his age obviously. 100,000 for a winger isn’t that bad though. I’m assuming that his output would be better than Ozil/Mhiki/Iwobi/Welbeck’s was.
Brahimi and Welbeck are not similar players by any stretch…I like Danny but there was really nothing positive about keeping him on, if he had managed to stay fit for any length of time that would have been considered but sadly even fitness eludes him
Receding No it’s not ‘according to me’, it falls on the manager across the football world. If a team fails then the first person questioned is the manager, dead simple. We lost ground to teams lower in the table, only a special breed would try lay blame at the Premier League golden boot winners feet. The game is imperfect, it’s littered with errors and misses, but the role of the manager is to funnily enough manage these instances consistently. We were abject against inferior opposition in our remaining 6 games. We conceded 9 in 3 games and you want to… Read more »
Totally against the idea of signing old journeymen just because they are available on free. Poch is signing a young attacking player for under £10M and we are after a player who at best gives us one good season and then we can’t offload him thereafter.
Brahimi is exactly the type of signing NOT to make. Sure he might be on a free, but his numbers are only half decent, and hes the finished article. So while we may know what we are getting, it will be exactly that, decent not great with no room for improvement.
That he plays the duo so frequently is also his fault.
Yeah he tried to play others but the options are so fucking bad. I don’t get that as a criticism though. If Xhaka and Mustafi are so bad why does he play them so much. Well because after them defending on injuries you’re down to Guendouzi and Elneny and Koscielny and Mavropanos. Year one he has some excuses not next season though
Offer Aubameyang?? Dud he or did he not miss a dying minute penalty against Spurs?? Did i imagine it or did it not happen?? Did that not cost us two points?? Would two points have been enough to qualify for the champions league regardless of our implosion at the end?? You are yapping on like i am accusing him of things he did not do. Yes he won the golden boot but he sure missed a boat load of sitters last season, saying that does not change anything nor exonerate the manager from his own mistakes except you also consider… Read more »
It’s tedious, so many on here repeating the same old wearisome stuff about Wenger and Gazidis, Haven’t they noticed, the pair have gone.
With Stan it’s different. He is still around, and he owns the Club.
Even so, let’s get real: he is not going anywhere.
So let’s take the situation as it is. Stan insists on self-sustainability. I don’t have a problem with that, provided he doesn’t dip his beak. Arsenal has always been self-sustaining (until now,) Run properly, there is no reason why it can’t be again.
“We can’t rely on Chelsea, Spurs and Man U to fuck things up again.”
In the EPL, we have to realize that most of the so call weaker teams are getting stronger. Besides MC and the Pools, top 4 will be a dog fight. Now that Emery has a year of EPL experience, it is up to him to show what he is made of. Last season, the board was also at fault for not backing Emery enough in the Jan. TW. Let’s see what the board will be doing this time.
Yea like when he fielded Elneny and Mavropranos against Palace and has since been accused of “throwing the game”
If we were going to sign the likes of Cahill and Brahimi there was no need to move to the Emirates. Did we move there to become the new Bolton of the South?
I hope the sheer self serving incompetence of Wenger and Gazidas puts to bed the notion that Wenger “loved” this club.
If he did this to a club he loved, I would hate to see what he would do to a club he was indifferent or hated!
TR7
Yeah but that player the Spud’s are looking at is going to be loaned back to Leeds for a season.
We can’t do too many of them when out squad needs improvements now.
I wouldn’t prop up Jack Clarke as anything and sneer at the idea of signing Saliba cause we need defenders right now. I don’t really want Brahimi to be signed but he’d have more of an impact on us next season than Jack Clarke.
No thanks to old average players on high salaries
Might as well offer mustafi and mikki new contracts if we’re going that way…
Marko
Mavrapanos vs Mustafi is not a tough choice for me. You give Mav 10 games, he falters in say first 2-3 games and most likely gets better with more playing time under his belt. Mustafi on the other hand is irredeemable.