… so… to cut a long story short… THEY DIDN’T EVEN WANT HIM!
*the bar roars with laughter*
So funny, right? Milan didn’t even want Lucas Torreira.
What a charade.
Well, at least that’s one boring story laid to rest.
The Tierney rumours appear to be ramping up again, the deal looking like it’ll go through for £25m when all the add-ons and bonuses are stacked up.
That’ll be a great piece of transferring if he can stay fit. Having a rapid outlet to make the overlap will be beneficial, it’ll also be nice if he can defend as well.
… also, Jenks going the other way? Incredible biz if it happens. I appreciate the guy likes earning good cash money, but when do you start looking out for your career? When do you demand to play on the regular? When do you decide you want to be an icon in Scotland?
Now Jenks. Go, be free.
The Zaha stories are totally mental, Palace apparently has a £100m release clause in his contract. As an agent, when you’re sitting there with a broken player a few years ago, and Steve Parish asks to put that clause in your deal… how do you let that slide?
No one is going to £100m. No one is paying £80m for him. That would be an absurd amount of money to drop on someone that is 27 and yet to be proven at the highest level. I think all the bluster is because they ARE going to sell him, and obviously want to create the impression he’s way better than he is… a bit like putting Ferrari badges and a clip-on-bad-boy exhaust on your Ford KA back in the day. But I think I’d be a touch horrified if we dropped that much of a non-existent budget on him. It doesn’t feel clever, it doesn’t feel long-term and it doesn’t look anything like value.
I was hoping we’d be looking at making smarter buys. It is absolutely no coincidence we’re now being linked with Malcolm of Barcelona. We were in for him when the choice was him or Auba, Raul is apparently a huge fan of Malcolm, and the player kind of fits the bill. He’s a talent, he’s found himself on the outside at Barca, and Raul probably smokes cigars with his agent.
Would make sense as well… because he’d cost less and likely has a higher ceiling, more career longevity and Brazilians are way cool.
Right, that’s me done.
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If Barca have any sense whatsoever they’ll target Oyarzabal instead of neymar
WE Pogba and Higuain had broken the market but Neymar ripped it to freaking bits and shreds. From 100 mil highest ever fee to 222 mil. Barca inserted that clause thinking no one would ever think of spending thag much on a football player and then someone actually did. That was the real summer of inflation i beleive. And Bernardischi was sold in the same summer but before Neymar signed for PSG. So the market still was a bit stable. But now it is complete chaos. Heck even we are chasing an 18 y.o. for 30 mil witb our budget… Read more »
Palace would rather sell than have a player whose heart is somewhere else.
We can do a deal. We have people that they need.
Convince Mikki to go there and we could have a deal.
Mikki plus £40m would be too good to reject.
They are already paying Zaha £120,000 p/w, so they are able to come to terms with Mikki about wages.
Sociedad have a couple of nice pieces, just got Odeegaard on loan too.
Inaki Williams a person of interest Marko? Has the tools for PL football.
Baptista was a strange player. Didn’t really have a position, but had so many destructive traits to his game and could strike at any moment.
He’s very good. Definitely needs to get out of Bilbao before he stagnates
Watched Torr played for Uruguary yesterday. He was like his old self playing the DM role. He didn’t need to do the high pressing as demanded by Emery. He let the opponents came at him and then he intercepted and tackled. His pass completion rate is almost at 100% He is most efficient playing his own game.
‘Anyone else watching the Copa America? Thoughts on that no.7 for Chile? Looks a bit of alright doesn’t he.’
Eagle!
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Nelson
Probably helps that he doesn’t have to do all the running and defensive duties for 2 other layers as well as his own.
Replace ballless and legless with some proper players and Torreira can go back to just doing his own job.
He was the opposite of so many players that we’ve had Paulinho, the guy thrived on the big occasions but would give you 5/10’s most weeks over the course of a season.
If he was a bit quicker and applied himself more he could have been a serious player at a high level.
Completely agree.
All well and good saying ‘just sit Torreira at CDM’ but what is in front of him at CM and CAM?
At CM a player who cannot cover any ground at all.
At CAM a player who has no interest in working for the team.
This is why you can make your defence as good as you want, it’s going to get pelted at Arsenal with that midfield. As shit as our players in defence are for the most part, they’d look better if the midfield was more balanced and provided an adequate level of protection.
Tierney
Crock jock.
Good player potentially but can we afford to gamble.
GB
I’m only half joking is the scary part, this is what watching Iwobi on a weekly basis has done to me.
Wasi
Besides Barcelona and PSG (Dembele, Coutinho, M’Bappe, Neymar) who are both operating on the elite end of the scale, nobody else are paying over 100m for players.
There was plenty of chatter about Lemar a far more accomplished player than Chiesa going for 90m plus and he ended up going to Atletico Madrid for 60m.
What appenning bout Saliba…
CA
We need at least 2 CM’s, ideally three but with our budget, two may have to do.
I’m pretty concerned that there’s been no noise on any so far and Ornstein only spoke about a winger on top of Saliba and Tierney.
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WE
He did say some stuff about Arsenal looking for a CM and a box to box player. I don’t know if he was repeating himself accidentally saying they are looking for two midfield targets.
But given Emery was at the Atletico game and some of the rumors about that Partey seemed to be one he wanted which suggests he wants to add legs and physicality to the midfield.
Actually hurts thinking that Upamecano, Partey and Zaha were apparently our top targets if we secured UCL football. Add Tierney to that and you’ve addressed serious issues in the team.
I’m pretty concerned that there’s been no noise on any so far and Ornstein only spoke about a winger on top of Saliba and Tierney.
What? He’s talked about a couple midfielders I believe.
No way do I believe for a second that our idea to address the defence is sign up Tierney and Saliba and that’s it.
I don’t think we are looking for a box-to-box player. It’s something that’s only done the rounds since Ramsey showed how effective B2B can be in that little spell near the end of the season. Before that it the idea of CM that made runs forward was almost sneered upon and most fans weren’t bothered.
Still could be looking for a CM but I think it will another conservative type that keeps things ticking over, and the fact that there barely any B2B midfielders out there anyway.
Mark with an o
Maybe the club are waiting till 01/07 before they. They splurge
Mark with an o
Maybe the club are waiting till 01/07 before they. They splurge the cash…
CA
Atletico losing Hernandez, Griezmann, Rodri and Partey in one window?
Not sure I see Simeone keen to further disrupt things there unless we present a stupid good offer.
And Godin too.
Also don’t believe the Brahimi rumours either. Stinks of an agent trying to garner interest
Has he Marko, who?
I have yet to see a concrete CM link.
Not sure I see Simeone keen to further disrupt things there unless we present a stupid good offer.
He’s already spoken about a huge rebuild this summer and besides it’s a release clause he wouldn’t have a say in the matter.
Caughtoffside are even worse than Metro.
Having said that, I’d much rather pick up Brahimi for free than spend 30m on Balde Keita.
Oh yeah? What’s the fee on the release clause?
Elneny, Torreira, Xhaka, Guendolyn it will be.
Great stuff.
Bleaching the eyeballs never looked so appealing did it?
WE I haven’t seen any proper links to CM’s either but we are apparently interested in some.
WE = That’s why I’m open to splashing about a bit more on Zaha. At least he can drop deep, come central, and carry the ball into the final third so we might see less of the painful transition attempts with that lot.
43 million so 50 million euros. It’s not going to happen even if you don’t believe the stuff about having 45 million to spend (I don’t) but we don’t do release clauses. Could you imagine us paying 43 million up front? Me neither.
I actually think that it’s a good thing that we haven’t seen a dick load of CM’s be linked. I look at it as us having a specific target and probably doing it on the quiet.
Going by some of the links that we can be more or less sure of this summer (Tierney, Saliba and Martinelli) perhaps we’re going young prospect for CM too. Who now that is another question. I wouldn’t mind Sangare at all
The Cure are on now at Glastonbury
Robert Smith hasn’t aged too good
Fuck that, Partey ain’t worth that kind of dough.
Still sound fantastic though
Really not a great Glastonbury this year. I will say I was surprised with that Lewis Capaldi lad. Mostly cause I didn’t know he was an actual singer. I saw an ad for his album and it looked like a skit from a show.
Paulinho
Agree but his end product is still fairly average for the money being talked about, he’s not a matchwinner in the way Sterling, Mane, Salah, Sane and Bernardo Silva are or even Son/Lucas Moura.
Where do you see the goals coming from next season?
Marko
Did you see The Killers last nite
WE – Yeah, I’m not expecting much from Zaha in the goal department, just looking for him to breathe some life into our laborious rigid team as it stands with so many straight line limited players that can only play in space yet can’t create any themselves. If he can run the ball well, pull the opposition about, then hopefully we will see the rest in a better light. If Zaha drops deep then Xhaka has someone to bail him out, if creates space in the final third Lacazette and Auba’s limitations are not as exposed and they can get… Read more »
Don’t like the killers but they had the pet shop boys on and it worked
Going to see Paul Weller at Cannock Chase next week
Partey is muscle mostly. The kind of guy who run at things and run and run. Not slick one bit. Guy has lot of gas in the tank though, the kind of guy who can bail Ozil out on a regular basis.
But for £43m, no.
£30m max should do.
NDombele to the Spuds for M72€, official.
€72m…. whatever. The Arsenal board should be ashamed of themselves.
Oh I forgot, they don’t even care.
‘Agree but his end product is still fairly average for the money being talked about, he’s not a matchwinner in the way Sterling, Mane, Salah, Sane and Bernardo Silva are or even Son/Lucas Moura.’
Until Zaha(in his prime now)arrives at a big club one can never say.
Mane at Southampton didn’t outshine Zaha at Palace in my opinion.
We have clever smokescreens.
Spurs have N’Dombele.
The Arsenal board have nothing to be sorry for. Several board members repeatedly stated that Wenger had money to spend on transfers.
Instead we put the money away in bank accounts that are now deemed untouchable
Dissenter
I hope you’re right and Kronke resists the temptation to take money out of Arsenal to fund his other sporting ventures in his portfolio.
I was just posing the question of whether it could be possible… and it seems to have been misunderstood to have mean that he will… no one knows… considering Arsenal is fully private now we are less able to hold them to account.
Wishing you the best.
Cahill, Brahimi… Arsenal’s latest transfer targets remind me of how Bolton used to conduct themselves in the transfer window when they were in the EPL.
Glad we are making the most of a modern stadium like the Emirates.
*facepalm*
What happened to chasing the best youngsters like Dortmund?
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Malcolm, could even be our new Supermalc
Anything exciting happening recently at Arsenal? No? What a shock.
Spurs getting Ndombele for 72m? Lmao. They can have him for all I care. If arsenal spent that on him I would be mad. Not remotely worth that. Max 40m
Sangaree seems same kind of player for about 20m. AMN will get to that level if trusted like Ndombele has been by his club
Mystic
Sad isn’t it.
Let’s be honest, all transfer fees these days are mad.
Not as mad though as our own financial management over the past decade or so.
I can’t agree about AMN
He’s a 6.5/10 player now. If he can be a 7.5/10 that would be nice.
He’s not a major talent based on the evidence we’ve seen.
I’d expect that most of AMMs career will be spent at teams like west ham and worse
Spuds wanna taste the big buy for a change, they see it works at Liverpool. Who shall tell them it doesn’t always work. Manchester United?
The Poch ranting off couple of days ago about how he has no final say on transfers, how Levy asks his opinions and just that.
Smart ass guy. Saying that now that his club splashed their first liquid diamond on a player. Seems to mean he wouldn’t take the blame if things go the United way.
Untold would go on about how Arsenal are linked to players unreasonably each summer. I, of course, would look at them like one looks at pathetic old men. Because why mention the obvious? Summers are about endless rumours of transfer activities everywhere, not just at The Arsenal. But this summer, I feel it has gone to a much higher level that the obvious needs to be mentioned. The story about those Sampdoria two was so ‘real’ I bought it, then the Torreira back to serie A story was as strong as they come. Now Saliba, Zaha and the Celtics kid.… Read more »
‘I’d expect that most of AMMs career will be spent at teams like west ham and worse’
How do you come to that conclusion about a kid who is being used blatantly out of position?
Zaha wants to join Arsenal.
He had posters of Arsenal in his bedroom as a teen.
Just like a certain Robin … (lol/too soon for a monday morning ??)
I look at Carl Jenkinson as the modern day Gus Caesar in that he must have fooled many experienced professional people in football ( as Caesar did) into believing that he was one of the best full backs in the country. Caesar played for the England under 21’s as did Jenkinson who even has one full England cap . How can this happen , Caesar and Jenkinson fooled George Graham and Arsene Wenger and their respective international managers at the time……I would also put Martin Hayes and Sanogo into the same bracket ….what did George Graham and Arsene Wenger ever… Read more »
Wait….so gazidis earned 22m pounds for the 10year decline he precided over at Arsenal Football club….Swiss ramble has posted a painful(to read)thread on Twitter… especially the part on Tottenham closing the revenue gap to 10m
“Alex Iwobi says Arsenal’s priority must be to qualify for the Champions League by finishing in the top four next season.”
And your priority Alex, is to learn the right things to do with the ball…
Gent
Arsenal transfer rumours no different to any other year …..before ,it was either Vieira,Henry ,Fabregas ,RVP or Sanchez leaving every season , now it’s Torreira which in itself shows how the quality of our players have taken a turn for the worse.
The Swiss Rambler review of Arsenal’s finance available on twitter is a must read for anyone that thinks there is a pot of gold just waiting to be spent on incomings.
How has Erick Pulgar the holding midfielder been getting on at Copa America for Chile?
People beginning to take notice of him.
He is decent enough on the ball but looks defensively more responsible than any midfielders Arsenal have at present and apparently has a release clause of 12m at Bologna.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJFV89wZlTI
This was my work that made this video.
Excellent thread by Swiss Ramble. The future is looking bleak…
https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1145583489103945728
Yacine Brahimi on a free seems to be happening
Rabiot having his medical at Juventus
That club are masters of the transfer market
terraloon
July 1, 2019 09:14:26
You beat me to it.
Swiss releases a spoiler alert.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1145583489103945728.html
I think it implicates Wenger, Gazidis and Kroenke.
Financially we began floundering post 2013. FA cup successes, depending on bad players, stagnating player sales, heavy defeats in Europe, and worst of all, allowing Spurs to best us, because we stood still while making the worst decisions.
We should sue Gazidis for incompetence and mismanagement, though it would never happen.
Have to say , the Adidas video is quality , it captures the real Arsenal . The fans who grew up going to The Arsenal as kids with their mates ,up the North Bank , travelling away to FA cup ties were always the best days , the video gives a good positive vibe , something that many on le Grove will never understand….the feeling of match days at Highbury or the Emirates every other week. I read all the negative crap on here from the likes of Marko, Receding, Cesc Appeal, dissenter and the rest and I feel a… Read more »
The best part of the Swiss ramble twitter fest
‘\”Former chief executive Ivan Gazidis somehow received a cool £2.7m remuneration, even though #AFC failed to qualify for the Champions League, all revenue streams fell and wages spiraled out of control. For some context, he “earned” twice as much as his counterpart at #LFC (£1.3m)”
See how fukked we were?
Gazidis still earning massive bonuses when the club was in the ditch!
That’s why the Kroenkes need to be jeered every time they show up.
Receding
Good morning , how ya doing
Yacine Brahimi makes sense to take the Welbeck role. He’s a much better player that Welbeck.
Pierre
Oh shit it already. It’s only July 1st and you’re stuck in your own stinky puddle already.
You’re more of a Wenger-bot than a proper gooner.
. MarkoJune 30, 2019 20:12:05 I mean I particularly mentioned Olmo because he plays for Zagreb for some reason. Could be a very decent pick up Also interesting story behind him….took a step back and went to Croatia while he could have just chosen to rot at the Barca bench or espanyol…he has now come back stronger.There is a certain Chile cm/cdm by the name pulgar I have been watching him for a while and he is so good maan.Rarely makes a mistake and can pass..he is also tough as nails and has a good tackle.He also has good tatts… Read more »
Zaha shouldn’t have signed the silly deal he did with Palace.
I’m happy for is to use Xaha as a smoke screen while we go sign the players that make sense for us.
For £80 million we can sign three solid players.
That is Kroenke’s failing, no interest in having his own neutral person at Arsenal for years. He put Kroenke Jr in when it was already too late. How a smart billionaire businessmen could have allowed an geriatric incompetent and a bald headed charlatan to do what they’ve done to this club is beyond me. The more Arsenal fans who see that article the angrier they will get. Put’s all criticism of Sanllehi etc into perspective. They are dealing with a club that has been negligently mishandled by two buffoons who didn’t have a fucking clue what they were doing. This… Read more »
Deniatos
First we have to ditch Elneny, don’t we?
Then we have to decide if Beilik hasn’t done enough yet. I think he has done enough to take the place of Elneny – doesn’t matter if we get only 5 million for Elneny.
“I read all the negative crap on here from the likes of Marko, Receding, Cesc Appeal, dissenter and the rest and I feel a little sorry for them as they have not experienced what it’s like to REALLY support The Arsenal ..”
I feel sorry for you too when i read your love letters to Ozil Pierre
Agree CA, just baffled how stan just sat by and let his club be run down, we could all see it, surely he has his independant advisors rather than relying on gazidis and wenger?
This club will amount to very little in terms of on field success as long as he remains
Lari 09.58.26.
Very enlightning everyone on the blog should read this twice.
Thanks.
Cesc
It also brings the gooners who were expecting a routine turn-around into focus.
There are many clowns here who thought all we needed was the most debonair and camera friendly hot shot manager with special sauce to turn it around.
It’s like some didn’t see the extent of our decay.
They deliberately understate the extent of our decay to mitigate Wenger central role and to make it easier to attack the new people.
My comments aren’t intended to absolve Emery of any blame since he made errors that contributed to the collapse at the end of the season.
“Yacine Brahimi makes sense to take the Welbeck role. He’s a much better player that Welbeck.” I am very well Dissenter thanks…took the weekend off all things Arsenal Brahimi is also very comfortable on the wings and in the middle, can help us change things a bit. I liked Danny for his work ethic but he wasn’t a technical player by any means, Brahimi is very technical. The rumored 4m euro sign on fee and whatever his salary is might be smart investment if he takes to the league. Marko will not approve of course because he is 29, free… Read more »
David Smith The thing with Kroenke is that you are entirely reliant with what it is at the club. He isn’t going to push people or sack people or demand success. We’ve got a better chance now with the people at the club of actually being a competent football club but you’d still like an owner pushing for success. I look at reports like that and do you remember how many years we were told that Wenger was an economic genius! Haha. How lucky we were to have a ‘professor’ as a manager who knew football, economics and business. Haha.… Read more »
Failing to qualify for the CL has cost the club big time. Unai Emery has dodged a significant amount of criticism for the capitulation over the six PL matches. Baffling really.
Pierre
“I read all the negative crap on here from the likes of Marko, Receding, Cesc Appeal, dissenter and the rest and I feel a little sorry for them as they have not experienced what it’s like to REALLY support The Arsenal ..”
And yet you’ve tried to have a pop at where I sit in the stadium the other day. Isn’t really supporting The Arsenal doing as much as you can in your own way, some can’t attend but criticising those that do – Is that really supporting the Arsenal?
I hate to say this. Pedro’s blog literally got me through the dark Wenger years. It was like crack to a crack head. I was queuing up …waiting for the free stuff he threw out here. That said, I repeatedly told Pedro that his Gazidis love in would blight his record…and it has. It was obvious Gazidis was a sugar-tongued NOTHING. I’ve met executives like that in my time. People who use the successes of others and run away when they goin.g gets tough. Gazidis used the remnants of Wenger’s brilliance. He was a nothing that was systematically running the… Read more »
Dissenter I completely agree with you. I said before some on here are pretending Arsenal aren’t the 2/10 situation left by Wenger and Gazidis. A club that is spiraling downward out of control everywhere you look. On field performance, wages, commercials, infrastructure, coaching etc. Unless your owner throws £250 Million at that in one window you are not reversing it quickly. It honestly pisses me off when newspapers and Twitter feeds post stories about what Wenger’s saying. Unless it’s ‘I’m very sorry’ I don’t care. The man did enormous damage to Arsenal and it wasn’t accidental it was all down… Read more »
For sure, Brahimi will score at least double the goals that Welbeck scored.
His stint at Leicester was blighted by injuries.
It also means Nkettiah is off on loan, which is good for all concerned.
Maybe so CA , but surely he saw what was happening , but he seems to have a similar track record stateside.
Just hope , maybe against hope the club can rebuild and if we are stuckwith the kroenkes, josh is a lot less trusting and tolerant of gross incompetence.
Brahimi is an okay gamble, provided he’s not on massive wages or a long term contract. Reading what the St Etienne coach said this morning if I had to guess I think Arsenal are trying to get Saliba here for this season. He kept going on about wanting him to say one more year, that the player wants to stay as well for another year and a deal doesn’t need to be done this year. Reads to me like he’s trying to scare Arsenal into just agreeing to terms. Don’t mind the deal, provided the majority of payment is next… Read more »
“Failing to qualify for the CL has cost the club big time. Unai Emery has dodged a significant amount of criticism for the capitulation over the six PL matches. Baffling really.” Dream let me ask you a few questions, before the season kicked off were we a nailed on champions league club?? Did anyone look at the top six and say Arsenal will definitely finish top four?? Not one pundit had us in the top four in his predictions and for good reason. If a manager can make three changes at home against Palace in the middle of a fixture… Read more »
Wenger will be wise to continue his extended break from football,