Does Torreira to Milan make sense?

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Well, well, well… the ‘YOU TOOK THAT OUT OF CONTEXT’ police back-peddling hard as the Lucas T rumours kick it up another gear… again.

Of all the players I was hoping we’d ditch this summer, I have to be honest, he wasn’t up there… but the rumours keep persisting with a slightly different twist on them.

Now, we do have to remember, he came out in the press and said everything about England is shite. Hard to brush that under the carpet, whichever internet translator you use. There’s a history of South American’s not quite liking the vibes in the UK, and right now, he’s in the shop window of The Copa America. All these rumours have started for a reason, and my take is they’re there to make sure scouts are paying attention to him over the next month.

Question here is this: the second half of the season fade we saw from LT, is that just a first season thing? Or is it something deeper. He’s a very small player that lacks power, he’s not exactly built for war like Kante, is he? Mesut Ozil always fades in the second half of the season because he’s not fit enough for the league. Is there a chance that’s LT? Just playing devil’s advocate here…

Whatever the deal is, it’s not good news that over a month into the close season, the hottest exit rumour out of the club is a player we all think is a bit of a future star.

As I said a couple of weeks ago, I think we have a very big problem mounting. Everyone in Europe knows who we want to sell. Xhaka, Ozil, Kola and Mustafi are all very well paid players, and it’s pretty clear that Arsenal are VERY keen to move them on. We have absolutely no leverage. Why would anyone go big now? Wait until we’re desperate to move them on at the end of the transfer window and see if you can nab a deal.

It’s a horrible thing to have to write, but be honest, you’d bet your house that all 4 of those players will be lining up in preseason this summer in that sweet Adidas training gear. That is going to be VERY disruptive if Emery dropped 1 out of 5 stars in their end of season reviews.

I’d like to think that we’re going to have some good news on the player front by preseason, but even that side of things appears to be moving slowly. My hope here is that we’re getting hard balled by clubs hoping to start a bidding war for their players. Celtic certainly appear to be quite firm about not losing another great player for fuck all. Maybe that’s the same across the board? Maybe small clubs are waiting to see where the first £200m signing goes before pricing their players?

I’d heard from a good place that the Zaha deal was very close with the player before the Europa League Final, the question is whether we’re still able to play in price ranges like that now we’re back in the poverty cup again.

Rumours elsewhere appear to be the same stories recycled. Saliba for £30m. Carrasco if he can escape. Whatever is going on, it’s a slow summer so far and it’s very hard not to fall into the doom trap thinking that if you don’t have the right people in place, it’s very hard to make the right decisions.

Also worth noting that almost no journalist is good with transfer rumours, so all these muppets on twitter highlighting great sources don’t know what they’re talking about. The whole transfer game is about deceit. Clubs try to move players on and attract buyers via the press. Agents constantly gas to anyone that will listen. Journalists and bloggers alike are desperate for hits so will go big without checking the veracity of the rumours. Even players are part of the game.

You can also have the most elite piece of information you can imagine… then BANG, you look like an idiot because a manager had a change of heart.

It’s a minefield out there… but one thing is for sure, it’s not good news when you’re a month into a rebuild and no one has been bought or sold.

Right, see you in the comments.

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Boomslang

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Tr4phy

Boomslang

Too late

Guns of SF

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MrT

Buy me

DM

The Torreira situation is simple. He is under contract with us. We don’t want to sell him. If a club really wants him, he’ll cost £120m. Thanks, bye.

Victorious

Really puzzling how the usual suspects that tussle for positions on here manages to combine the absolute devotion to the cause and having a life

You literally never see them type a word in the old post(except 1,2,3,4) and when a new one come up…..Booom..they come flying in from nowhere,i mean with such precision everytime

David Smith

Torriera, dont know.
But what I do know, this England side , for their talent are the most gormless team in cricket

Dissenter

Kroenke ought to let Arsenal spend from the cache of money stacked up from previous transfer windows inactivity. That will not violate FFP because it’s money that was already earned. It would be within the self-sustainable philosophy.
There’s no reason why Arsenal should have over 50 million in out account, no other club in world football stashes away 200 million+ in a bank account.
We need to leave it all on the field. Put that money in footballing assets. The rate of appreciation of well scouted talent is exponential compared to cash in a back account.

Marko

There’s already some walking back the Torreira stuff so at this point just assume that it was either bullshit from the get go or a non starter early on

Also what did DiMarzio say?

Samesong

But what I do know, this England side , for their talent are the most gormless team in cricket

No Australia are just the side to beat at the moment.

vickingz

Can anything good come out of arsenal fc?

Dissenter

Vic
“Really puzzling how the usual suspects that tussle for positions on here manages to combine the absolute devotion to the cause and having a life

I suspect they have embedded cookies on Pedro’s website and it notifies them to come and start the counting. It’s a well honed skill you have to respect.

Jamie

Receding –

I’m sure those who place considerable value in those statistics will be consistent when they’re used to assess Lampard’s performance next season.

Chelsea supporters should be seeing improvements from day 1. Also, he’s fluent in English, so no ‘foreign’ jibes will fly either. He’ll either improve the Chelsea squad through training and tactics, or he won’t.

gunnermjj

That look from Cristiano Ronaldo at Aaron Ramsey after his 15th misplaced pass…

That is how I feel about Arsenal’s summer transfer policy!

HighburyLegend

“it’s not good news when you’re a month into a rebuild and no one has been bought or sold.”
The Arsenal way.

Guns of Brixton

In short, no one is effing off, no one is coming in

And so we are 100% solid on having an absolute stinker of a season again.

James.wood

Nothing worse than disruptive or unhappy players at a club.

The whole atmosphere becomes tainted.
Players give less.?
And I don’t see Emery as Gee up type.
More of a Barker I would suggest.

Marko

I have a feeling that the potential signings of Tierney and Saliba alone will put to rest the down and out in Beverly Hills vibes at Arsenal. Saliba alone should be a good indicator of our plans/vision for the future. Since when do we pay 20-30 million for an 18 year old and then loan him back to a club.

David Smith

Australia maybe Samesong, but Englands impending exit will be defined by Pakistan, and especially Sri Lanka.

Receding Hairline

Did Pedro just remove something from the post??

The Di Marzio comments are missing

Receding Hairline

Marko Saliba won’t quieten anyone if he is going back to St Etienne on loan after a 26m pound outlay by a club with defenders not fit for purpose

Marko

Oh yeah. Probably unverified quotes from Dimarzio. Best to remove just in case

Receding you could look at it that way I’d look at it as actual evidence of a plan. Paying big money on an 18 year old and then loaning him back is huge for us it shows we actually have people thinking long term in the transfer market.

Victorious

All good bringing in youngsters for the future but Saliba is almost certainly not making any impact for us next season and this is after splurging out half of our supposed budget really odd for a defence that conceded 60+ goals last season Would think bringing in an elite first team CB who could potentially be a leader would be priority..we should be looking at the impact VVD has made for dippers and thinking of having some of that, not necessarily the same scale Tierney will be a good start but until proper problems in the squad are addressed it… Read more »

Dissenter

We can purchase Saliba from out rainy day funds [the cache of money that Arsenal keeps piling away] and proceed with out 2019 window as usual.
… or better still, just spend from next years transfer budget.

Pierre

Imagine if Wenger was spending £18million on an 18 year old centre back and then loaning him back …

I’m not sure that Marko would be saying it’s evidence of a plan and that it’s huge as we are looking lot term., especially as money is so tight.

Receding Hairline

So we are basically taking a 26m pound punt, a chance that this kid lives up to his potential.

Okay then

Victorious

is huge for us it shows we actually have people thinking long term in the transfer market”

Could also show us not having much of a plan.

We absolute need first team players just as much as having youngsters for the future

You should be bother there’s a genuine possibility of us finishing below 6th next season if certain players in the first 11 aren’t just replaced but upgraded upon

Receding Hairline

“Imagine if Wenger was spending £18million on an 18 year old centre back and then loaning him back …I’m not sure that Marko would be saying it’s evidence of a plan and that it’s huge as we are looking lot term., especially as money is so tight.” I have to agree with Pierre here I don’t see the plan If he is worth 26m pounds at 18 then he is better than Mustafi and a finished Koscielny and should be here playing next season Future bets cost under 10m like Guendouzi, 26m pounds is steep for a player who all… Read more »

Dissenter

Funny enough, I think Vincent Kompany stands a better chance of succeeding Pep Guardiola at city if he does well as a real manager.
Arteta better get his arse out of that cone stacking arrangement and go manage a club.

Receding Hairline

I mean 16 appearances for St Etienne and suddenly worth 26m pounds and then add in the inconvenience of a one year loan deal to the team you just handed 26m pounds

Marko

Imagine if Wenger was spending £18million on an 18 year old centre back and then loaning him back …

He just wouldn’t do it would he. I mean actually bringing in a proper highly rated prospect. Instead he shied away from buying Varane and Umtiti and Rugani when they were younger and affordable. He bought Chambers instead. A sign of the times now that he’s gone

WengerEagle

We’ve conceded 102 PL goals over the last two seasons.

Buying an 18 year old kid that’s made 16 first team Ligue 1 apps for 25-30m and loaning him back for a year to France would be a bizarre move.

How much of our budget would we be blowing on a player that does precisely fuck all to help us for at least a year.

WengerEagle

Marko we need x2 starting CB’s in the market so how does spending 30m on Saliba and loaning him back to France represent savvy business exactly?

We’re not Liverpool who were a piece or two away, we’ve just moved into a gaf that has no furniture or electricity and the roof is pissing rainwater.

Dissenter

Receding
How on earth did Osei-Tutu go from almost playing in a EL final to going out on loan to a German division 2 club side?
How come even the bottom dwelling teams in the top divisions or Europe weren’t interested in this great talent?

Marko

Maybe it’s not a good deal after all. I don’t get people sometimes we’re literally doing what people complain we don’t do enough and you’re still complaining. Nah fuck it might as well call it off and let him go to Spurs or City. Or how about we wait a couple years and get into a bidding war for him with bigger and better clubs

Words on a Blog

Is it me, or (excluding Real,Atletico and a couple of Tier 2 Italian clubs) has this been the quietest transfer window (in terms of actual transfers rather than rumours and “news”) in England/Europe in a long time?

What’s (not) going on?

Receding Hairline

“How on earth did Osei-Tutu go from almost playing in a EL final to going out on loan to a German division 2 club side?”

Lol

Osei-tutu did not come close to playing in the final

Valentin has actually back tracked on that, he claims he never said he should have played in the final.

Leftsidesanch

Weird if we purchase Saliba just to loan him back

Victorious

Won’t personally be paying more than 15M tops for Saliba.

Would add 20M to that go hard for Skriniar

Why do we have Scouts in the club when they can’t scoure the planet and unearth other less expensive promising 18yo CBs to given time to develop

Looks like the current management are utterly out of their depth

Words on a Blog

I’m used to Arsenal fannying about, but this time nobody has announced any business to speak of.

Dissenter

There’s nothing wrong with signing Saliba, so long as it doesn’t take away a penny from this season’s transfer budget.
We have a problem with ageing defenders, this will get even worse next season. Buying Saliba now with one year of guaranteed regular playing time in Ligue un is elite planning.

englandsbest

My belief is that the list of players the Club are willing to sell includes all of them. And for a very straightforward reason: the net money available for transfers is zero or very close to zero. In other words, Emery/Raul need to sell to buy. This may well be common knowledge out there, amongst managers and agents. Add in that Arsenal have few players other Clubs want, and those they may want are on high wages at the Club, and it’s easy to understand why no business has been done so far. A dire predicament for Emery and Raul.… Read more »

Dissenter

RH
“Valentin has actually back tracked on that, he claims he never said he should have played in the final.”

The internet does not forget

Receding Hairline

“we’re literally doing what people complain we don’t do enough and you’re still complaining.” I don’t believe anyone literally called for a team leaking goals to pay 26m pounds for a youngster and let the club keep him on loan. Yes City can do that because they will then pay 80m pounds for Maguire to play NOW. Spurs have never bought a player and sent him on loan, not even 5m pounds Alli We called for smart scouting and catching them young. Not 26m pounds for a 16 appearance 18 year old followed by a loan back to the team… Read more »

HighburyLegend

“There’s nothing wrong with signing Saliba”

In fact, there’s nothing wrong with signing any player… but this is Arsenal Circus Club.

TR7

Dissenter

‘We can purchase Saliba from out rainy day funds [the cache of money that Arsenal keeps piling away] and proceed with out 2019 window as usual.’

Where is this pile of money that you keep referring to ?

Marko

Marko we need x2 starting CB’s in the market so how does spending 30m on Saliba and loaning him back to France represent savvy business exactly? Where to start. Well one we don’t know the price yet. Two we wouldn’t be paying it up front. Three it’s savvy if we end up getting a highly rated prospect before anyone else. Again I really don’t understand our fanbase sometimes. Equal parts stupid and moaning at times (not you specifically). We complain about not getting smart in the transfer market about not getting ahead of teams in the transfer market. Us buying… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“Buying Saliba now with one year of guaranteed regular playing time in Ligue un is elite planning.”

Not at 26m pounds

You go hard on Mavropranos but think paying 26m pounds for an 18 year old with 26 appearances is elite planning.

It is elite planning if you are Real Madrid or Manchester City not Arsenal in our present state

terraloon

Dissenter Two things about spending big using monies contained in the reserves First Here’s what AST say about the cash reserves Cash balances There is a general misconception that Arsenal are debt free and sitting on spare cash. This is incorrect. The analysis of the May 2018 accounts published back in March showed that whilst there was substantial cash held at that time (£231m) it was largely spoken for: Cash £231m Debt Service accounts £36m Working capital £50m Net player payments due 2018-19 £0m Debt repayments £9m One off factors £17m Spare Cash £119m Net spend – summer 2018* -£31m… Read more »

englandsbest

Sorry, Benitez has not ‘resigned’, he has left Newcastle for similar reasons.

Cesc Appeal

Very happy with Saliba, future star there.

WengerEagle

Marko

You were probably hard on Soyuncu last summer as well, these prospects are never guaranteed to pan out and tbh far less of them make it to the top level than not.

Nobody would have a problem with the potential Saliba deal if we hadn’t just conceded 51 PL goals yet again and needed x2 starting CB’s but life is such that we do.

How much of our ‘warchest’ would we be spunking on this kid too?

Receding Hairline

Cesc i will be very happy with him too if i see him in red and white next season

If he is worth 26m pounds at 18, he is good enough for a starting place in the defense line of 2019 Arsenal FC

Marko

Would add 20M to that go hard for Skriniar

So 35 million for Skriniar? Who just signed a new deal and is likely worth 70 million at least. Genius.

when they can’t scoure the planet and unearth other less expensive promising 18yo CBs to given time to develop Looks like the current management are utterly out of their depth

Double genius. Ah yeah there’s a tonne of highly rated 18 year olds out there why not just pick up the cheapest. Easy that

MidwestGun

*sigh* …. So this has what it has come down to… trying to sell our DM after not having one for ages or even trying to transfer one in despite the obvious hole in our squad because he hates rain.. Fuck me. Meanwhile… the axis of evil gifted to us by Wenger.. Ozil, Mustafi,Miki, and Xhaka look like they will be here next season…. awesome. Great. To be fair.. Emery seems to rate Xhaka and Miki.. no idea why though.. they will disappoint again. Anyhow.. most of this transfer stuff is all crap.. so I’m trying to refrain from commenting… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“You were probably hard on Soyuncu last summer as well”

Yea not just him many on here were , he did fcuk all at Leicester last season

16 appearances is such a small sample of games in Ligue 1 for a player to be proclaimed a future world beater and by people who i can bet have never watched 90m of a game involving St Etienne more than thrice

Marko

Weird if we purchase Saliba just to loan him back

Actually quite a few clubs do that. Granted it’s usually clubs that can afford to wait for a defender (we can’t) but we have to do it

MidwestGun

If Holding is healthy … I think we can afford to wait for a CB. What we can’t do is play the same midfield we had as last season or have no wingers and fullbacks who can’t defend.

Marc

Why don’t we offer a different player on a year loan – there’s got to be someone we can dangle.

And Cesc – Ozil off a bridge is not an option.

Victorious

Unless the 45M budget is baloney and we actually have much more to play with then spending a large chunk of it on a kid only to loan him back is epic buffonery

It would also mean we’re bringing in just one other average CB in and that one of Kos or Mustafi is certainly staying put..money’s on Mustafi..hasnt being credited with any link away whatsoever

How very arsenal

Receding Hairline

Victorious personally i always believed the 45m pound budget talk was nonsense

Dissenter

I read the AST review as well. http://archive.arsenaltrust.org/news/2017/ast-review-of-arsenals-financial-reports-for-201718. You don’;t need to speak latin to understand it. It says we have residual cash after all is “spoken for” of about 88 million. Arsenal is very conservative , in an era where we have to take some risks to redeuce the ever growing gap. What use is that money when the footballing product is moldy? “Even if there was substantial sums in those reserves that could be spent it would negatively impact on FFP.” …sorry mate but this is quality BS. First you say there is no money, then you say…… Read more »

Marko

We called for smart scouting and catching them young. Not 26m pounds for a 16 appearance 18 year old followed by a loan back to the team that just mugged us off

Seems to be the price or the loan is the issue. It’ll seem like pittence if inside the next two years we end up having one of the best young CB’s in Europe. Varane signed for Real after about 20 appearences for Lens. His first season in Madrid he only made about 15 appearences so he probably could have done with a loan that first year

Micheal

“A dire predicament for Emery and Raul. Benitez, in a similar situation, has resigned.”

Newcastle have a bigger budget than Arsenal.

Alex Cutter

“That look from Cristiano Ronaldo at Aaron Ramsey after his 15th misplaced pass…”

Link?

Victorious

Marko

Inter want Xhaka..how about we get them to entertain a sort of swap? The point is we need at least one world-class CB next season to offset the amount of shit we have in that department

Spending a large chunk of your budget on a kid you won’t be having anytime soon when there’s such gaping hole at the back isn’t a bright move no matter how you want to make it so

WengerEagle

Exactly RH, Marko mate I’d be willing to bet good money that you haven’t watched Saliba play a wet 90 mins. And you’re acting as if he’s some world class prospect like Varane was [literally every club were going hard for him, RM won out because they’re as prestigious as it gets in football]. He does nothing to help us next season if we loan him back and even if we don’t, is that smart coaching of an 18 year old coming from abroad, firing him immediately into the fray at a club that is a laughable shambles defensively and… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“Seems to be the price or the loan is the issue. It’ll seem like pittence if inside the next two years we end up having one of the best young CB’s in Europe. ” the price is the initial problem, then the loan just makes it all distasteful, Someone also thought John Stones was going to be top notch. You are talking about a 26m gamble on an 18 year old who will remain with his present club like its something that happens everyday . Real Madrid brought Varane back to Madrid because they wanted to keep an eye on… Read more »

WengerEagle

Middy

We were on pace to concede 50 PL goals when Holding and Bellerin were both fit.

It’s why I found the revisionist takes on their defensive impact odd, not to mention the hilarious take that Welbeck through sheer amount of time crocked have morphed into a ‘key’ starting player as per a few on here.

Receding Hairline

Real Madrid paid 10m euros for Varane between, if Saliba cost around that region we will not be having this discussion Marko

Valentin

Raphaël Varane joined Real Madrid as a 18 years old after Zidane made personal contact with him to ignore Arsenal overture. Samuel Umtiti joined Barcelona at the age of 22. He was a regular at Lyon his initial club. There was never any chance of getting him ahead of Barcelona. Rugani joined Juventus at the age of 18 years old, so again no chance of getting him. If you are an Italian defenders and Juventus comes calling you are not going to say no to them. Wenger had enough flaws and made enough mistakes, there is no need to add… Read more »

MidwestGun

If our midfield play was better we don’t need 2 more CB’s next season.. I have no problem with the Saliba buy.. that’s assuming it even happens.

I have a problem with not getting rid of some of the dross.. which would increase our budget.

KAY Boss

Opinions differ and so will it be till eternity.
Just don’t know who to believe when it comes to arsenal transfers.
Waiting patiently for that glamorous signing if there will be any.
Is Leon Bailey still potent as last 2 seasons, why no mention of him this time around.
I see the current regime blending youth with experience.
That is how u plan.

Marko

You were probably hard on Soyuncu last summer as well, these prospects are never guaranteed to pan out and tbh far less of them make it to the top level than not. Nah I dunno if the sounds surrounding Saliba were the same as Caglar. By all accounts the reports around him are Varane esque. I don’t even know why I have to sell the idea of Arsenal signing up an 18 year old CB who’s interesting City, United and Spurs I guarantee you one thing though if he ended up at Spurs those same people complaining about us signing… Read more »

Batistuta

I have to echoe what seems like the general consensus…. Absolute idiotic to pay that amount for a CB and then loan him back when we still have Mustafi prodding about our defence…. If he’s old enough, he’s good enough.

We’re not some super rich club, we’re operating at a much smaller level than teams that can afford to do that. It would make no sense whatsoever

Batistuta

Marko

Or that we need an immediate fix for our leaky defence and can’t afford to spend half our budget on someone who won’t play this season….I’m sure there’d be other Salibas knocking around soon

Receding Hairline

” It’s just a classic example of an Arsenal fan just never being happy”

No it’s a classic example of Arsenal fans asking for judicious use of funds. By all means buy the kid if the cowries say he will be the future Maldini, but come back to London with him FFS

Leftsidesanch

Bat

As of Jan 2019, Financial service firm Deloitte have listed us as the 9th richest club in the world.

Funny how Arsenal try to plead the poverty line.

Marko

Wenger had enough flaws and made enough mistakes, there is no need to add some imaginary mistakes.

So he couldn’t of signed Varane at 18 for 10 million only Real could do that I suppose. And he couldn’t have attempted to sign Umtiti before he joined Barcelona at 22 we couldn’t have done it when he was 18 or 20? I suppose not. I only mentioned those players cause there were links to them in the past. I’m not making up imaginary mistakes he could have targeted better young prospects over the years instead of the ones he did sign.

WengerEagle

‘ It’s just a classic example of an Arsenal fan just never being happy’

Haha are you having a laugh? Is this satire?

Amazing how Arsenal supporters aren’t happy with our current predicament isn’t it? Ungrateful bastards.

What clubs wouldn’t do to get pasted by Leicester, Wolves, Palace and Chelsea in a Final putting up relegation defensive numbers and then spunk half/a third of their entire budget on an 18 year old kid that’s made 16 apps in the French League and potentially won’t even be playing here next season eh?

Micheal

“As of Jan 2019, Financial service firm Deloitte have listed us as the 9th richest club in the world. ”

Having the money and spending it are two entirely different things.

Dream10

If the aim is to build an 85-90 point team in two years, then Torreira doesn’t figure in it as a crucial first XI guy. I’m quite surprised at how many in our fan base overrate how good he is. Believe Torreira and Holding are the two that are most overrated in our squad. We have quite a bit of work to do to build a 85-90pt first XI in two years. On the decline (will not be here in two yrs) – Sokratis, Koscielny, Mkhitaryan, Özil Squad guys in two yrs (Either stay or go) – Holding, Guendouzi, Iwobi… Read more »

WengerEagle

Varane is a poor comparison as well because Real Madrid had two world class centre halves already in Ramos and Pepe and could afford to phase him into the first team gradually. He made just 9 La Liga apps in his first season.

We’re asking Saliba to come in and lifeguard our defence from the get-go.

Marko

I’m sure there’d be other Salibas knocking around soon

What’s the point in when we won’t sign them or if we do the fanbase will still have a problem with it. At this stage I’d prefer he go to Spurs just to witness the flip flop and cries to be more like Dortmund from certain people.

Receding Hairline

“We’re asking Saliba to come in and lifeguard our defence from the get-go.”

That scenario would have been better , we are actually asking him to continue “learning” how to be world class at Saint Etienne while we continue leaking goals

MidwestGun

My issue is… if you know you are on a budget then you have to try a lot harder to move people out come hell or high water to increase your budget… If Saliba and Martinelli are part of a host of signings and clearing out underperformers then it’s not even a discussion. but if that’s the extent of our business then it’s awful. You have to have a happy medium.. between fixing your squad now and buying for the future so far we are nowhere near that.

WengerEagle

Dream

And even Aubameyang will be 32/33 in a couple of years time, you still see him being a top class CF by then?

Valentin

Dissenter, You really have an obsession with me. I did not backtrack on what I said. I did not let you change what I said to further your agenda. I said that in my view had some of the players been properly introduced during the season, we could have relied on them during the end of the season and the final. If Emery had decided that Mustafi nor Lichsteiner nor Jenkinson were fit for purpose, then introducing an U21 right back from January against easier opposition would have make more sense. Then playing him in the final would not have… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Literally every single player Dortmund buy play for them

It’s surprising you do not see anything wrong in handing a team 26m pounds and walking home to a leaking defense while the asset you just paid for continues helping the team you just handed a tonne of money

You can have your crystal ball moment of him being a future superstar based on the clubs purportedly after him, but at least acknowledge the fact that if we are going to be held up for 26m pounds the player should be heading back to London with us

WengerEagle

‘ cries to be more like Dortmund from certain people.’

Dortmund have signed Hummels [30], Brandt [23], Hazard [26] and Schulz [26], all prime age players or soon to be in Brandt”s case.

Dream10

Wenger Eagle

Yeah I do. He’s doesn’t seem the type to be out of shape. Don’t see his off the ball movement diminishing much.

Marko

Amazing how Arsenal supporters aren’t happy with our current predicament isn’t it? Ungrateful bastards.

Totally. Complete fucking morons too if we’re honest. Imagine signing up an 18 year old for 20 odd million instead of waiting for him to be 20 whatever and priced at god knows what. Be more like Dortmund they say but they don’t really mean it. Anyway hopefully it’s not true hopefully he goes elsewhere and we buy another near 30 year old for 17 million instead

Leftsidesanch

If the fee for Saliba is paid for in instalments (and we have more than £45m) for transfers then I can live with it.

I do expect to see things heat up in the next week anyway. I suspect that clubs won’t come in for our dross until late in the window where they can ‘underpay’. As long as the suspects are off our books I won’t complain.

Receding Hairline

Valentin a kid who you believe is good enough to be playing for the Arsenal first team should attract better loan offers and guaranteed playing time than the Bundesliga 2 ..Osei tutu is 20 not 18, we are about to spunk 26m pounds on an 18 year old and leave him on loan while our 20 year old is going on loan in Bundesliga 2 There is nothing you spin to make them smell nice You appear to be the only one who rates Osei Tutu highly, being a natural right back is not enough reasons for him to walk… Read more »

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“Stoke City have completed the signings of Adam Davies, Nick Powell, Lee Gregory, Jordan Cousins and Liam Lindsay.

Davies, Powell, Gregory and Cousins were available on a free after their contracts expired, whilst Stoke have paid Barnsley an initial £2million for Lindsay which could rise to £2.5million.”

This is the team we allowed terrorize us for years in the premier league , we have been a joke for quite sometime now

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I hope by the time Saliba comes Holding has made that postion his own.

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