Just a quick one from me today.
Tierney is the one for us, according to multiple reports.
We’re not on a level playing field when it comes to a transfer fee, with Celtic clearly wanting mega money, however, it seems like we’re the only club going hard for him.
The electric left-back certainly looks like he has the talent to move into the Premier League. If it works, you have yourself a £50m player. If it doesn’t, he’s young enough that you’d unlikely lose (unless you give him stupid money).
It seems that we’re going to offer him £70k a week, which is about what Matteo G is being offered. The new standard amount for young talent in the first team.
The worry with him is the injury record. It’s not great. He’s had hip problems, Achilles issues, the list goes on… the talent is clearly there, but it’s no good if it’s not on the field. I’m always interested to know how clubs make decisions on things like that because history usually is a very good indication of what you’re going to get with a player… especially if they’re moving from a pub league.
Bad news for Mesut Ozil. His boy lost Istanbul by quite a wide margin. How does this change the wedding photos is the big question on our lips right now.
The Lucas Torreira story won’t die… the Italian papers suggesting Gazidis wants to propose a two-year loan deal fee of 16m, with a cash buy at the end for 38m. This is like watching Arsenal go after deals. Why would any club sanction a deal like that for a player that’s doing well? Why would Arsenal do Ivan any favours? Unreal behaviour if there’s even a grain of truth about it.
The Carrasco stories are still bubbling hard. I’m amazed that the player can be kicking up such a fuss after less than 6 months. Why would you move to China for such a short amount of time? Why not just take a loan move? Money… one would assume. I really do wonder about going near a player with this sort of approach to his career. If he blows up, we’re going to be on the receiving end of this next summer. If he tanks, he’ll bunker in like Mesut Ozil.
Right, that’s all I have for you today! x
Not really fair to mention Keita without saying how well Fabinho has done there though. There is a risk that players even performing in the PL can’t make the step up, I mean look at Benteke going from Villa to Liverpool, Lukaku going to United from Everton, Mahrez far from set the world alight at City, Schneiderlin the former Le Grove favourite utterly stinking out United after his Southampton spell. List goes on really. A big signing is nearly always a risk unless they have experience performing at a high level week in week out at a top tier European… Read more »
As good as Whoscored can be it’s a crock of shit at times.
Granit Xhaka’s [7.03] PL season was higher rated than Fabinho [6.95], Wijnaldum [6.89], Henderson [6.67], Milner [6.91]. Liverpool’s entire CM, a team that put up 97 points with 1 defeat.
weagle No doubt there’s always risk, but in Zaha’s case its mitigated a large amount with what he’s been through to this point. He’s made all the mistakes already at a big side and knows what not to do again. All those you mentioned were making their first step up to decent clubs, and all bar Benteke went to arguably superior sides than ours currently. Mahrez is a bit of a bogus call too, he is fighting with Sane for a spot and by and large won that battle through the season coming up clutch a couple of times late… Read more »
If we dont sign Wilf .
We might as well all give up.
Here is an Arsenal fan who wants to join us.
And he is PROVEN in the Prem.
And he is at the peak of his powers….
He is explosive, unpredictable, volatile….but mega talented…
He has a chip on his shoulder and a point to prove….
He will make every Arsenal player better.
And He would make every Arsenal fan more optimistic for season 19/20.
It would be a complete dereliction of duty NOT to sign him…..
If we are not careful…
Spurs will sign him…..
January 2nd can’t come soon enough.
Tick tock.
Zaha is as close to banker as you get when looking for someone to come into the side and play to their level and beyond. Sure banker. He was probably a banker to come good at United too. Point is that we can get better and cheaper who can also play to their level and beyond. I would class Ziyech as more of a banker because he’s a good age has shown that he can mix it up physically and has more attributes than Zaha more versatility. Also I love how you just threw in Naby Keita without mentioning Fabinho.… Read more »
If CG thinks we should sign Zaha that’s enough in itself to have doubts over the player
Tierney, torriera, Carassco , Fraser are all dross….utter filth…….all rejects.
Adrian Boothroyd players….
Zaha is dynamite…
Zaha is our Zulu warrior.
Zaha is a Gunner…..
Get it done.
Marko
You are obsessed with cheapness,man
We are Arsenal not Slough Town.
We were looking at someone called Aribo
deal would of been sweet looool.
I am confident that we will get Tierney.
“Sure banker. He was probably a banker to come good at United too. ” Since when is any young player stepping up from Palace to United a banker? “Also I love how you just threw in Naby Keita without mentioning Fabinho.” No it was a throwback to you waxing lyrical about Keita and telling all and sundry about how he’s going to rip it up, only for him to fall flat. Thus highlighting the benefit of already knowing the league. Fabinho was shite for half the season too, same as Torreira. Didn’t hurt them much given their options, but you… Read more »
Rafa is apparently in the running for a 25 million a year job in China. Rafa has played a blinder. Hope they have a decent transfer budget otherwise…
£20 Million plus £5 Million worth of potential ad ons is the rumoured offer.
That will likely do it.
See if we can sneak Jenkinson in as the guy ‘dropping off the money’.
Interest in Ceballos rumoured. £45 Million is steep for a player who has not proved himself at Madrid, very talented though and still young. Could well play that CAM/CM role we need someone to fill. As much as there are obvious issues in our team like the defence, there are certainly seemingly indirect areas that will help us. Wingers for example indirectly ease the pressure on your defence by not allowing the opposition to sit so high on you and a CAM who actually drops deep to help off the ball and wants to be on the ball as well… Read more »
Same with Valencia, do I “want him” or was I saying I’d take him for a year in the same manner as Licht
So you wanted him signed.
When you chirp at someone you really ought to present what’s said in the manner it was said. Otherwise you just come across a puerile fuckwit.
So when I said that you wanted Antonio Valencia signed I was right because you did in fact want him signed. I’m a fuclwit with not adding like how we signed Lichtsteiner I suppose. Point still stands your “bankers” I’d be fucking skeptical about them mate.
All this Torriera nonsense is boring . if he doesn’t have the balls for the league he should shut up until someone pays the asking price. He isn’t leaving on loan if the people at Arsenal still have brains
Marko
No I don’t “want him”, he’s a good option if we replicate that same idea of a capable bosman that Licht was supposed to be. He’d execute much better than Licht. But if we want a longer term RB he’s clearly not in the convo.
So, so simple, but you conflate because you love to try and score points. I don’t care much what you’re skeptical about, be as skeptical as you like because you’re hardly a fountain of knowledge and reason.
CG
I’ll have you know Slough Town are a very well run club.
be as skeptical as you like because you’re hardly a fountain of knowledge and reason.
Ah if I’m a fountain you’re a well thats run dry. You still haven’t explained how I was wrong for saying that you wanted Antonio Valencia signed. All you’ve done is add context to you saying that you wanted Antonio Valencia signed. Like I said I’m skeptical of your opinion that Zaha would be a “banker”
Looks like Martinelli is on his way. Classic ‘good luck and safe journey’ messages from his teammates on social media.
Wonder why Arsenal are not announcing it though.
Graham
“”””I’ll have you know Slough Town are a very well run club.””””
We might be playing them within a decade….
marko
the fact you’ve not understood something doesn’t mean its not been said. I’m not prolonging this pointless exchange
Yeah please don’t prolong you not admitting to saying something stupid. Instead call me a fuckwit for correctly saying that you said that we should sign Antonio Valencia. Genius that you are
Marko
It’s literally written above. Are you that bored you want to keep nibbling away? Go find a toaster to poke with a knife, you’ll have a blast go on.
Cesc
I think the team resumes for pre-season shortly.
I suspect Arsenal are going to announce more than one incoming transfer maybe timed with Edu’s formal introduction.
Yes Charles very good you didn’t want Antonio Valencia signed instead you wanted him for a year much like when we signed Lichtsteiner.
Does anyone know anything about this Martinelli?
Hoping he isn’t the second coming of Wellington Silva (who’s probably still on our books on loan somewhere!!)
WengerEagle “As good as Whoscored can be it’s a crock of shit at times.” Said before with that site it’s how you want to read certain stats and how much you put into those stats. If you just want to look at their stats by numbers relating to headers, tackles, passes, shots etc then as we see with Mustafi and Xhaka you will be misled. I prefer to look at their stats in relation to player characteristics on that site not just scaled down how many headers, passes and tackles etc a player makes. It gives a better indication of… Read more »
I absolutely love the way Ziyech volleys them like KDB.
Technical too.
If they insist on £30m, we should pay £31m, raking the £1m ‘ premium’ from selling Ozil to yoyokotamama fc of Central Korea.
Zaha? I wouldn’t mind if he comes at a reasonable price.
Fraser? Tell those fuckers to keep enjoying their super star. Not wanted here.
Does anyone watch a lot of Serie A who can comment on Kessie and his potential ability in the EPL?I’m not saying I think we will sell Torreria, but I can see Milan potentially not adding anymore cash and maybe throwing Kessie in as a temptation.I read lots of conflicting things about him. Some people say he’s physically very imposing but a bit stupid on the ball in terms of decision making, others think he’s great, others think he’s trash.Hard player to get a handle on without having watched a lot of him. Anyone? Cesc Appeal I do watch alot… Read more »
Who would improve our attacking play/relieve pressure on our defence?
Zaha? Yes.
Ziyech? Yes.
Carassco? possibly.
Fraser? Remote possibility.
Assuming the above players would want to come to Arsenal, it’s all down to transfer fee/wages we can offered, or what Kroenke says we we can afford.
*we can afford
Lets hope Martinelli is more Alexandre Pato than Wellington Silva.
Years ago, as a young player, Zaha struggled at Man U.
Since then, he’s increasingly carried Palace.
He’s older and wiser, wise t the ways of the PL, and he already is “next level”.
He would also add unpredictability, and occupy opposing defenders, to our pretty predictable attack.
Also I saw a comment a while back on us having a midfield 3 ala Liverpool and I agree.We need to have ‘busy’ players.Now I know Legrove like flair midfielders but I would rather have a hardworking midfield 3…and then add zaha to laca and auba and we are good to go…players like Ander and Hector Herrera,Thiago Maia,lobotka,linetty,gueye,nkunku,deroon etc not exactly names to make people here cream but very functional CMS….for example….a midfield of torreira,Hector herrera,and Martin De Roon with a forward line of zaha/ziyech,auba and laca is pretty much solid
One good thing about England under 21’s losing is that we won’t hear more nonsense about them having the best youth in the world, or that that youth being particularly special.
Said on here a couple of years back it was nonsense because individually hardly any of them stood out, and it’s come to pass with their recent flops.
GentleBris
“”:Fraser? Tell those fuckers to keep enjoying their super star. Not wanted here.”””
In agreement..100%
If we have identified this tub of Scottish Lard ( Fraser) instead of our Wilf as the Winger required for season 19/20 it will really be the Final Nail in Our Coffin……
Tierney and Fraser????
Maybe they want to re-introduce a new Tuesday Club…..?
Arsenal should have learned their lesson buying injury prone players
The last thing we need is an expensive Jock Crock out for months on end
England’s u21 defence is shocking…reminds me alot of a certain football club…
Honestly the number of pens given via VAR in the female WC is embarrassing now….Canada just given one
Apperently LT wants to force a move back to Italy do one if that’s true you twat but let’s get 50m plus for the player from Ivan
Bang on serge
Take Kessie in PX as well
Unless he is poor like some guys are saying we need width 2 CB and a proper CM
No outgoings is a bit of a worry…
We’re gonna be lumbere£ with the same old dross.
Maybe he is thinking playing amn in the torr role .?
Toor not learning the language is like Sanchez he never bothered to learn the queens…
Maybe he saw the move as a springboard…
God we need rid of at least 5 players should see movement in the next ten days
Elneny
Mustafi
Ozil
Monreal
Kos
Must go minimum
Serge
Xhara
Mustafi
Monreal
Elnenny
Ozil
Kos
Kolasanic
Would be my list…
Be cruel n harsh.
Maybe Arsenal should be scouting players on eBay
Ain’t heard this one before anyone know owt ?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-impressed-borussia-dortmund-youngster-17158880
Ha wishful thinking re Pato, lad was an insane talent before the injuries.
Edged out Aguero as the bigger talent in his first year and a half at Milan.
He cost nearly 20m pounds tho which in 2006/07 was a lot of money for a prospect. Same with Aguero, Atleti paid the same amount for him in 2005.
Martinelli isn’t even close to being as lauded in SA as they were, hopefully he’s a serious talent that has slipped under the radar.
Paulinho
The England under 21 side could have included Sancho, Deli Alli , Hudson Odi , Trent Alexander Arnold , Declan Rice, Joe Gomez ,Rashford and probably a few more.
So don’t be too quick to write off the considerable talent coming through as the team playing in this tournament are basically the 2nd string bar Phil Foden and Maddison.
So don’t be too quick to write off the considerable talent coming through
It’s almost you don’t realize that they got knocked out conceding 9 goals in 3 games.
Pato was glorious, or at least the potential of him was. No chance we pick a player of that level up for a bag of monster munch
I’d be impressed if we finally landed someone serviceable for circa 5 mil that can later go for 20.
*almost like
“It’s almost you don’t realize that they got knocked out conceding 9 goals in 3 games.“
So did Emery’s Arsenal yet you’re serving him up a “time” platter.
You’re talking about babies in the modern game, what they do at a tournament now will mean fuck all for them come 25.
Here’s Charles struggling again. Bringing up Emery when the discussion is England not being as good at youth level as they think they are. Yes Emery out indeed Charlie. Just pointing out though that’s one point and 9 goals conceded in 3 games for the pre-tournament favourites. Bunch of overhyped babies
Marko
I know what’s being discussed. I’m drawing parallels to our run end of season and how your assessment changes when it’s England’s youth vs Arsenal.
Another dead simple one that you’ve not fully grasped. Not a thicker bowl of oats on here lad.
Paulinho
England has the best U-21 players in Europe.
The key players like Hudson Odoi, Longstaff and a few others had to pull out due to injuries
I’m drawing parallels to our run end of season and how your assessment changes when it’s England’s youth vs Arsenal.
That’s a big huh from me right there. Pre tournament favourites failing miserably and the 6th best squad in England finishing 5th. Yep good point as always.
Just had to check to see if what Paulinho said was so bad as to face rebuke from not just Pierre but Charles and Dissenter. And no it wasn’t. Because the pre tournament favourites got knocked out in embarrassing fashion.
An England under 21 side consisting of
Trent Alexander Arnold
Declan Rice
Rashford
Deli Alli
Phil Foden
Maddison,
Sancho
Demaral Gray.
Joe Gomez
Hudson Odi
Lotus cheek.
Would walk the under 21 tournament …..full of quality …
Only an idiot would think that side doesn’t possess top quality footballers.
English football certainly has a lot to look forward to if those players can fulfil their undoubted potential.
“That’s a big huh from me right there. Pre tournament favourites failing miserably and the 6th best squad in England finishing 5th. Yep good point as always.“
I replied to this barb aimed at Pierre:
“It’s almost you don’t realize that they got knocked out conceding 9 goals in 3 games.“
We conceded 9 in 3 games against inferior opposition too end of the season. ‘Time’ you say we need, but the under 21’s are a write-off. And I’m the one struggling apparently.
The key players like Hudson Odoi
Has never played for the under 21’s. Therefore isn’t a key player
“Just had to check to see if what Paulinho said was so bad as to face rebuke from not just Pierre but Charles and Dissenter.“
Seeing things you want to again, I never replied to anything Paulinho said concerning England.
I echoed Weagle about Pato in vague reference to something Paulinho said. Try harder
Where’s Le Grove’s crush of last TW: Leon Bailey? Can we get him in as the winger we desperately need or has he gone cold performance wise that no mention of till now by the tabloids?
Some of you are being harsh on Torreira. The media are just giving info base on presumptions not fact. He said that he was finding difficulty adjusting to the league but stressed that he will like to be here for a long time.
Marko and Champagne, happy Zaha day.
“Only an idiot would think that side doesn’t possess top quality footballers.”
Should have read
Only an Irishman would think that side doesn’t possess top quality footballers.
Same thing really😇
‘Time’ you say we need, but the under 21’s are a write-off. And I’m the one struggling apparently. Apparently so. I’ve never said the under 21’s are a write off and I’ve never said that Arsenal players are in need of time. Paulinho pointed out how the under 21’s were overhyped which they were and you bringing up Arsenal who are the complete opposite of overhyped suggests that you’re struggling yet again. England get knocked out conceding 9 in 3 and you bring up Arsenal for some reason. Fair play lad. I’m sure if the Romania game ended up 8-2… Read more »
They’ve also been preparing for the tournament for the last two years and Aidy Boothroyd has been in the job since 2016 so yeah time and all that
I echoed Weagle about Pato in vague reference to something Paulinho said. Try harder
Oh so you’re having a pointless argument just for the hell of it and not even about what’s being discussed. Like I said struggling.
Pierre is Paulinho Irish? Never knew. Like anyone would take anything Ozil’s gimp says seriously
Marko
Difficult to win a tournament playing with basically a 2nd string side , I’m sure you would agree.
Second string? Who were they missing?
Paulinho’s a local Londoner.
Funny that any suggestion that the England u21’s are a bit overrated is met with the jealous Irish quips.
I speak as a jealous Irishman however so… yeah don’t take my word for it.
Why isn’t Jadon Sancho there?
Marko
It’s comical that you of all people are donning folk as struggling to understand anything. Self awareness not your forte
Weagle
Can’t stand international football, it’s pony. So the unders is baby shite.
Jealousy nothing I don’t care. But I feel like it’s my birthright to once in a while remind English people that they’re a bit shit at football at the end of the day
He plays for the seniors WE. Why isn’t Mbappe playing for France?
Weagle
Who was the last player at international unders who you flagged for the big time and they delivered?
For me it was Ribery, still remember him bossing it in his electric blue boots looking like a pro amongst school kids. He turned out alright.
Fair point Marko haha.
I would say that Sancho has done nothing with the senior team yet though as opposed to M’Bappe who was key for France in a WC win.
Point is he’s not an under 21 anymore in fact he’s never played for them so so he’s not part of their first team. The under 21’s is the second string anyway
Of those list of players that Pierre put up early on only Gomez and Alexander Arnold have taken part in qualifying for the tournament and even then it was like 3 or 4 games. They weren’t really missing people
Charlie I have to admit I’m bad for following youth football even internationally, fact that Ireland are non-existent and atrocious might have something to do with that, senior team is enough punishment for one man. I remember thinking Carlos Vela was going to go on to be something special after he stole the show at the u17 World Cup in 05′ and was the best player. Was only half-wrong because after standing out like a tractor beam in the Cup comps for us as a kid he went on to give Real Sociedad some very productive years and he’s been… Read more »
Realistically I doubt anyone here would mind Zaha, he gives us something he desperately lack however it’s a moot point really. The valuation is crazy and even if CP come down to say 50 million, that’s still our entire transfer budget or atleast 70% of it (I believe we have about 70 million, like last season, the rumoured 45 is a bollocks). It’s precisely for this reason Zaha won’t happen. A player I haven’t heard talked about is Cahill, 30, on a free, tonnes of experience in PL. If we are struggling for money, can’t be worse than Mustafi for… Read more »
Reiss Nelson played today and scored a penalty!
Weagle I’m the same, don’t follow the youth at all. Used to show some interest but it’s all bollocks to me now. Game has changed and if you’re halfway decent at 18 you’re there with the stars everyday. Vela is that classic example of talent and mediocre temperament. It’s why I have so much time for Cristiano, he’s incredibly talented, but his desire to extract the most from what he has is almost unrivalled. Love that from a player, really the sort you can resonate with I think. Nobody likes a lazy talented guy who thinks it all comes easy,… Read more »
Charlie It’s a story that has been told many times but I always find it interesting, as youngsters Sporting Lisbon had an insane talent production in the early 2000’s. Ronaldo was the third most touted youngster there with Quaresma being second and viewed as more gifted and technically better [Barcelona picked him up soon after]. Who was the most talented academy player there? Fabio Paim. Ronaldo said it himself when he signed for Manchester United in 2003 “If you think I’m good, just wait until you see Fábio Paím”. He never made a single appearance for Sporting Lisbon’s first team… Read more »
Cavani is immense, terrific header.
Hummels to Dortmund seems an odd one. I thought he was Germany’s worst player at the World Cup and he hasn’t gotten better since. Weird way to spend 30million.
A player I haven’t heard talked about is Cahill,
Another Silvestre in the making. Had his best days already.
Just saw the Cavani header on Sky Sports news .
Wow!!
Sky Sports also have the Bellerin montage.
Got to laugh.
See more of him on that than we do at the Emirates.
England v Aussies today.
Must win.
Watching the USA/ Spain women match last night it is obvious that VAR is becoming a mess and needs a rethink of how and when to use it. Over 5 minutes to sort out a penalty decision is way too long.( And they still came to the wrong decision). Having the referee go over to a screen on the side of the pitch is pointless and time consuming. If VAR is to be used for penalties ( I think it shouldn’t) then the decision should be made upstairs as to whether it is a penalty or not . VAR is… Read more »
Pierre: “Only an idiot would think that side doesn’t possess top quality footballers.”Should have read
Only an Irishman would think that side doesn’t possess top quality footballers.Same thing really😇”
So it turns out you’re a xenophobe as well as a cunt.
lol Lil’ P. strikes again ??
https://www.onlinegooner.com/articles/view/4797
Nice homage to Aaron, he will be sorely missed.
Torreira looking likely to go then, just a question of how much.
He and (more importantly his Mrs) may want to go, but we’ve got him on a long contract.
I’d rather have an unhappy player kicking around Arsenal than do Gazidis any kind of favour.
At least £45 Million.
Absolute bottlejob if he’s running back to Italy. Little to do with weather and the language and more to do the EPL being too fast and too physical.
Are the Torr stories accurate?
He’s an absolute puss if true. Also, I can’t see Milan paying £40m+ for him.
Anyone here genuinely looking forward to next season?