Just a quick one from me today.
Tierney is the one for us, according to multiple reports.
We’re not on a level playing field when it comes to a transfer fee, with Celtic clearly wanting mega money, however, it seems like we’re the only club going hard for him.
The electric left-back certainly looks like he has the talent to move into the Premier League. If it works, you have yourself a £50m player. If it doesn’t, he’s young enough that you’d unlikely lose (unless you give him stupid money).
It seems that we’re going to offer him £70k a week, which is about what Matteo G is being offered. The new standard amount for young talent in the first team.
The worry with him is the injury record. It’s not great. He’s had hip problems, Achilles issues, the list goes on… the talent is clearly there, but it’s no good if it’s not on the field. I’m always interested to know how clubs make decisions on things like that because history usually is a very good indication of what you’re going to get with a player… especially if they’re moving from a pub league.
Bad news for Mesut Ozil. His boy lost Istanbul by quite a wide margin. How does this change the wedding photos is the big question on our lips right now.
The Lucas Torreira story won’t die… the Italian papers suggesting Gazidis wants to propose a two-year loan deal fee of 16m, with a cash buy at the end for 38m. This is like watching Arsenal go after deals. Why would any club sanction a deal like that for a player that’s doing well? Why would Arsenal do Ivan any favours? Unreal behaviour if there’s even a grain of truth about it.
The Carrasco stories are still bubbling hard. I’m amazed that the player can be kicking up such a fuss after less than 6 months. Why would you move to China for such a short amount of time? Why not just take a loan move? Money… one would assume. I really do wonder about going near a player with this sort of approach to his career. If he blows up, we’re going to be on the receiving end of this next summer. If he tanks, he’ll bunker in like Mesut Ozil.
Right, that’s all I have for you today! x
Cesc
Maybe he hasn’t settled in the country, it’s absolutely normal if you ask me, doesn’t make him any less human and he was one of our better players last year for a player who was just settling in which tells you about the absolute mess we have to sort out if a young man new to the league is one of our better performers
Why’s a player a puss if he hasn’t settled in a new country Jamie?
They’re human too you know
CA I wouldn’t be heartbroken to lose Toreirra, have to question his character as you say to give up on the PL after just one season. He also looked terrible from late December right through to the EL Final vs Chelsea where he was up there with Ozil and Koscielny as the worst player on the park. Game passes him by all too often and he looks out of his depth athletically. We should play hardball however because he’s contracted up and is one of the last player’s that we need to sell. Milan are mugs and paid 37m for… Read more »
Anyway i think it’s all just rumours but we’ll see.
Wouldn’t say not to Kessie though at this stage though as i don’t trust we’ll adequately replace Torreira
‘Anyone here genuinely looking forward to next season?’
Nope.
We have far too much to do and less than 8 weeks to do it presuming we want to bed any new signings in and have them ready for our first PL fixture.
I reckon that we’ll sign 3 first team players max and we really need at least 6 now with Ramsey’s departure. Not to mention cleaning house of last season’s spine.
“Anyone here genuinely looking forward to next season?”
I will do like Pedro, I’ll be waiting for Arteta to be in charge.
Weagle
We’ve been told to be patient as the international window doesn’t start till 1st of july. We’ll probably come 6th or worse next season at this rate
On a more serious note, and unfortunately : no.
Yeah, me neither.
I think we’ll have largely the same squad this season as last, less Ramsey and Cech (and both Bellerin and Holding coming back from long-term injuries).
Hopefully a couple of our kids will step up surprise us.
Bati
At bare minimum for the starting XI we need:
LB
RB
CB
CM x2 [this is presuming that we hold onto Toreirra too]
LM/RM
In other words we’re pretty much fucked.
Jamie A lot of people saying it’s just rumours but there is a ridiculous amount of noise for it to be just rumours. I think he’s off. Bottlejob. Best rid of him if this is his attitude. Batistuta Do not agree. He’s on £50 000 a week, the team looks quite a friendly bunch to be honest when you see training videos etc and we’re suppose to buy he doesn’t like the weather, language and food so he’s too upset to stay here? Bullshit. It’s two things; 1) The EPL is too tough for him. He started well and then… Read more »
5th is the new 4th when City get a UCL ban.
Chin up lads!
It is absolutely hilarious it took people this long to realise the £100 Million a year or whatever it is from Etihad is closet owner investment.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?????????
Honestly, as pathetic as that is, 5th placed UCL qualification might save our future as a club.
Silly season all round.
I don’t think there’s any truth to the Torreira rumours. There wouldn’t be any speculation if he didn’t give his take on the British weather.
He said he had a better time in Italy and that as years go by, he will adapt to England.
The media take that and run with it, so far they’ve got everything wrong.
I don’t buy it’s just a rumour.
If it were as an agent you’d be telling Torreira come out and rubbish it and say you are totally committed to Arsenal and working on getting strong for the new season.
Otherwise you risk a very frosty reception if you’re still here.
Saliba looked almost certain last week, and now Spurs of all clubs are apparently in the midst of hijacking that deal too.
It’s unbearable, I try not to follow all this nonsense but it’s very difficult not to.
I wouldn’t be so sure Left, it’s not unheard of for players to leave after one season in a foreign league, especially if a club from the league that they performed in offers them a route home so to speak.
Milan as mediocre as they have become are still a massively prestigious club as well, even in 2019 they are still a lure for any player below the elite bracket.
Leftside
See I think that rumour is rubbish because it’s framed as ‘Arsenal join race for Saliba’.
Arsenal were on the ‘track’ 2 weeks ago.
CA, Weagle So much stuff out there it’s hard to weed through what is rubbish and not for me. There is usually no smoke without fire but I can’t see it happening. I wouldn’t be averse to getting shot of him if he was replaced adequately but this is Arsenal we’re talking about. We don’t sell well either. We should be getting rid of players in the squad surplus to requirements before we even contemplate getting rid of our better players. It’s a shame because by this time last year we had already had two players signed up, with the… Read more »
‘I wouldn’t be averse to getting shot of him if he was replaced adequately but this is Arsenal we’re talking about. We don’t sell well either. We should be getting rid of players in the squad surplus to requirements before we even contemplate getting rid of our better players.’
^This.
I think Torreira is the one midfielder I’d be sad to see go. For a first season I thought he was really promising for a 22 yr old in the PL. So, his levels dropped by Xmas, wasn’t this predictable particular after his WC commitments?
Give him the CM role he’s so suited to and sort out the other midfield positions with players with technique and pace.
Far too much has been made of an honest interview that explained his struggles domestically. He made it clear that he felt things would improve.
The rumours are mainly Italy based at the moment, but there are a lot of them.
The latest rumour is a straight £31 Million offer.
Great, add £20 Million to that offer and we will start to talk.
I don’t see this situation as just a rumour or just because of an interview. I’m not saying Torreira is kicking for the exit or that he won’t stay but there is so much smoke here.
The club should really think about this season tactically and invest as much as possible even if slightly risky.
1) Chelsea cannot buy players and have lost Hazard who carries them.
2) United still have Ole and squad issues.
3) City could be kicked out of the UCL which means 5th would be a UCL place.
Cannot pass up a chance such as the 19/20 season seems to be offering by being overly financially cautious.
It would be just like Arsenal to get rid of Torreira after one season but keep Xhaka for his fourth. In saying that I don’t think it’s true. This is what Italian clubs try to do unsettle and get on the cheap. Milan can’t afford him and it doesn’t look like he’s forcing a move. Clearly parts of the Italian media have nitpicked comments he made about the weather and struggling in his first season and omitted other quotes where he’s talked about working hard and being here for years. Seems like a non starter for me that you’ll likely… Read more »
Anyway still waiting for a statement of intent from the club this summer. Still waiting for the Kroenke’s to show their ambitions for the club.
There are so many other players I would sell before Torreira. We all know the positions we need to upgrade…so much work needs to be done before we should upgrade Torreira. No war are Milan coming up with the money that would make a deal worthwhile. Get .Kierney done and then move on to CB.
But if Torreira wants to leave and Milan give us a good offer it really doesn’t matter if you would rather sell Mustafi, Elneny, Ozil, Mkhitaryan, Jenkinson etc before him.
You have to deal with this scenario and make a choice.
If Milan make the right offer he’s gone I think.
CA there’s literally nothing to suggest that he wants to leave or is forcing a move. It’s a bullshit ploy by the Italians to unsettle him. They’re probably hoping by airing it out publicly that he’ll try to force a move and they can then be able to get him on loan or on the cheap. This literally all came about from comments made about the weather not to mention that the rest of the comments made have been disregarded. It’s a non starter for me. Milan are in a worse place than us btw
Marko
We will see.
Way too much noise for it to be bullshit, it’s a question of degree now.
Plus you also have to factor in this all came about from an interview done a month ago. Literally the only ever quotes you see are from that interview. Nothing from the clubs absolutely zero from the player and as far as I’m aware nothing from his agent that has been alarming. I think he may have said something about Giampolo. During that same period Carrassco has made public statements his agent has spoken the Chinese club and the manager have spoken and he’s returned back late from international duty and has been subsequently banned by the club. That’s a… Read more »
Marko ‘It’s a non starter for me. Milan are in a worse place than us btw’ Well, Torreria was playing for Sampodria 12 months ago. If he disregards his 12 month stint at Arsenal where he apparently doesn’t seem to quite enjoy his football, from his perspective he gets a move from Sampodria to Milan in 12 months which is still a massive upgrade plus he gets to play in a league he is comfortable playing in. Players are human beings ,you can’t expect them to decide all their career moves merely on the basis of a club’s league position.… Read more »
Possibly stating the obvious here but I think Arsenal don’t want to spend a single penny this window if they can help it.Its only outside pressure.i.e the fans who’s forcing them to do it with expectations of wholesale change which it apperars the club can’t or won’t deliver if the window is anything to go buy.every single club we’re dealing with knows we’re in a jam whether that be buying or particularly selling.we are indeed looking increasingly desperate.A sorry state of affairs wenger & gazidis have left us in.
Cesc
“If Milan make the right offer he’s gone I think.”
Problem is Cesc Milan have bigger financial issues than us. For it to be the right offer you’d have to be talking about best part of £50 million otherwise all we’re doing is adding another key area that needs strengthening with our existing meagre budget.
Uwot
Can you list me all the players that have been signed so far by ManU, Man City, Liverpool, the Spud’s, Everton and Leicester?
Anyone know if we’ve got a buyback clause for Bennacer?
TR7 I wasn’t talking about Milan being worse off standing wise than us I meant more they’re worse off financially and worse off really in the sense that I don’t see that getting any better anytime soon. Say what you like about us we’re stable ownership wise but they ain’t. The move would be more sideways for Torreira
“Anyway still waiting for a statement of intent from the club this summer. ”
Ah ah, I hope that you are really, REALLY patient!!
Our main target next season is to avoid to become a total football laughing stock.
Marko
We’re also in a position where in 2 – 3 years we lose some of the wage problems we have as contracts run down – not an ideal scenario but at least we’ll rid of some problems.
My sense is Torreira set the stage for a possible transfer away from Arsenal by deliberately making public his discomfort at Arsenal. The cynic in me doesn’t believe it was an innocent off the cuff remark. He probably won’t force a move away but looks like he has sent feelers to all the potential buyers and has got his agent to explore all the possible options. Perhaps Gazidis knows AFC won’t keep Torreria against his wishes and relent in the end.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/06/25/lucas-torreira-not-seeking-move-away-arsenal-despite-strong/ I would like to think at this point it’s a really obvious ploy by Milan to garner positivity around the new hires after the sacking of fan favourite Gattuso. The fans will get excited by rumours that the new guys are trying to sign up Torreira only to be somewhat deflated when they end up with Praet or Veretout. Seems Ivan has learned a few things from his time at Arsenal. Can’t tell you how many times we were linked with some genuinely interesting players over the summer only for Arsene to buy some piss shit average one inside… Read more »
Marc I take your point.not many.if any? But our need is greater & more urgent would you agree?
It’s actually bullshit… The main rumour comes from Torreira staying he’s not quite adapted to the British environment and also that his former boss at Sampdoria is now at Milan. We’re too broke at the moment to be pricing out a player who would move for nothing less than 50 million.
Lolz the San siro is being demolished and we’ve seemingly been beaten to Sensi and Calabria by Inter
It’s absolute chaos at the moment in Milan and the links are a hot bag of nothing but trust Arsenal fans to always get their knickers in a twist. Should be worrying more about Xhaka and Mikjitryan lining up for us again next season
No Xhaka, no party!!
My sense is Torreira set the stage for a possible transfer away from Arsenal by deliberately making public his discomfort at Arsenal. Nah I can’t agree with this in the slightest. Did you not see the comments he made prior to joining us. He’s a very open guy sensitive almost and will give you an honest answer. The way he talked about growing up and missing his family and all that shite. I think he was literally asked about the weather in England. And again it’s so weird how people take those comments and disregard some of it. Here it… Read more »
Did Suarez actually appeal for handball off a GK in the box?
Uwot
Of course we need to strengthen, we also need to unload some of the current squad.
I don’t know what’s going on in the transfer market but it all seems far to quiet. ManU have all sorts of issues as well – Pogba, De Gea, rumours about Rashford etc etc.
Hard to believe that we don’t have a plan for the summer. When you see Sarabia, Fornals and Trossard players we were linked with leaving for fees we could easily afford. You have to believe that there’s an actual plan in place right?
Marko ‘They always seem to forget the end part. So angling for a move while talking about adapting over the years doesn’t really connect’ Politicians all across the world speak in the same ambivalent manner. Again I hope Torreira stays as right now we need our focus on other issues in the squad ,not on Torreira but I wouldn’t discount the possibility of him leaving. Would be a real slap in the face if at the end of TW Torreria and Ramsey left whereas Mustafi and Xhaka stayed at Arsenal talking gibberish about mental strength, passion and prepration for the… Read more »
Politicians all across the world speak in the same ambivalent manner
Eh he’s a footballer. Most of them are dumbshits with a basic education. Some are already trying to walk back the rumours now saying that he won’t force a move and we won’t sell unless it’s for big money. This rumour will die a death inside a week and be forgotten
“Hard to believe that we don’t have a plan for the summer.”
Considering the joke club that we have become, not so hard to believe…
Why would anyone want Torreira to stay
with that attitude it’s bad enough carrying
Ozil with his “your not a coach attitude.”
There are plenty of players who would give
more than these two put together.
And certainly get up and down quicker than
either.
Marko
‘. Some are already trying to walk back the rumours now saying that he won’t force a move and we won’t sell unless it’s for big money. This rumour will die a death inside a week and be forgotten’
There are a few who still believe there is too much smoke in Torreria rumor for it to be just a rumor. We will see obviously.
What attitude? He literally said the weather is shit.
Marko
Well he new what he was letting himself in for.?
“He literally said the weather is shit.”
And so the team. If he really want to go back in Italy, I can’t blame him.
Hardly the first person to think the weather was shit. I’m surprised he didn’t say something on brexit and talk about how EastEnders is shit these days.
Lucas Torreira wishes to return to Italy because pizza and lasagna is better than bangers and mash and Yorkshire puddings. He also likes Peroni to Carling. How could he
Tentative excuse for leaving the weather?
Tired of trying to get them little legs to go
any faster.
Deep down, I think Torr prefers to play for his old coach than his new coach.
So just like Pedro, he hates Emery. (lol)
Yeah that’s it Nelson he said the weather was shit but what he truly meant was Emery is rubbish and (insert name of manager you want) should be manager instead.
I think alot has been made about nothing really
Realistically more than the weather it’s the 6 months of exhaustion that is bringing him down
English football is no picnic… unless you’re paid 350k and can sit out the matches you’re not in the mood for anyway
Marko
There isn’t a plan if we’re being honest.. We seem to just be shooting and hoping something sticks…Hard to believe there is a plan at this stage but we wait
I dunno maybe we do actually have one. If we didn’t just doing nothing while Sarabia goes for 18 million seems really stupid. I’m still convinced one of Upamecano or Konate will be signed. Prove me wrong Arsenal
offer of 30 million euros dropped for Saliba.
from a reputable french journalist.
RMC: #AFC have offered 30m euros for Saliba, and talks with his club is ongoing. Player has already agreed personal terms, but Arsenal face competition from Spurs who have entered the race.
Everyone getting excited about the Torreira rumours need to chill a little.
Firstly the rumours are conflicting.
Secondly imagine it’s the 8th August at 5.01pm. We’ve signed a LB and a winger and moved on Elneny and Chambers but Ozil (were stuck with him), Mustafi and Xhaka are still at the club. Oh yeah we’ve also let Torreira go on a 2 year loan with a piss poor deal at the end.
For us to sell him Milan have got to come up with some serious cash or offer some good player(s) in return.
Now I know why Micki and Ozil sucked last season. They both spent too much time planning for their marriage. Now that it is over, they should think about playing football again.
China 1
Exhaustion he needs Oat Milk.
Docoure will be an amazing replacement.for Torreria. In fact he will be an upgrade on the Uruguan.
TR7
How much do you think he’ll cost?
“Now I know why Micki and Ozil sucked last season. They both spent too much time planning for their marriage. Now that it is over, they should think about playing football again.”
Wow
So they wrote off an entire season for a one day event where all they had to do was sign a cheque ….good one
I think Saliba is a bit of evidence quite contrary to the notion that Arsenal don’t have a plan and are not planning for the future they scouted one of the brightest young CB prospects around a while ago they have been negotiating to get the best deal possible, already agreed personal terms with the players and now just have to work out the loan to St Etienne.
Target identified weeks ago, long term planning.
Lyon have just signed a defensive midfielder from Brazil for 8m euros
Jean Lucas Oliveira from Flamengo
If he does well in a years time we will have clubs willing to pay 70m for him like Ndombele
Wasn’t this the type of transfers we were supposed to be focusing on this window??
I think also it should show people to calm themselves. ‘Saliba was done a week ago and suddenly it’s quiet’ etc…just shows there are things happening you just don’t always hear about it.
That means Saliba is progressing nicely, Tierney is also progressing and Martinelli is already on his way.
Not saying these solve our problems but there is movement.
“Tottenham are closing in on the signing of Leeds winger Jack Clarke, Sky Sports News understands.
Discussions between the clubs are understood to have progressed over the last few days.
Several elements of the deal are said to have been agreed including a fee in the region of £8.5million. ”
Better than standing around for Fraser in my opinion, not that i believe we want to sign Fraser anyway
Cesc
Too many losing their heads over things not happening yet. As I’ve repeatedly said what other PL clubs have done loads of business.
Cesc the lack of movement outgoing wise is what i hope will change, I really hope the players we no longer want are doing deals behind the scenes and we just hear announcements of their departure
I guess it’s nerves! Once bitten twice shy Marc when it comes to Arsenal’s elongated transfer dealings.fans have become disenchanted with their(Arsenals) methods in the market.but there always hope….
Marc It seems as if we’re just quietly trying to get on with things and are likely trying to avoid a Tierney situation where we make a bid it goes public and suddenly everyone is saying ‘great player shouldn’t let him go for less than…’ and there’s pressure on Arsenal to get a deal done or else look as bad as they did under the incompetent and the bald headed twat. RH I do hope that as well, that we are putting deals together for people to leave. I mean the interest in Saliba and Tierney seems very real. That’s… Read more »
Marc
£30-40M should seal the deal. We will get similar sort of money for LT if we sell.
“£30-40M should seal the deal. We will get similar sort of money for LT if we sell.”
Not in a market where Wan Bissaka will move for 60m and Maguire is likely to move for 80m.
Doucoure is same age as Maguire and just as influential for his team. will take more than 40m
Looking increasingly likely that Chelsea are going to land Lampard.
Not convinced he’s going to take them forward next season. Will be interesting to see their xG and xGA if he’s in charge. If they tank, will he get a pass due to the constraints under which he’s working (transfer ban, no Hazard, etc)?
26m pounds is a bit much for an 18 year old you intend to loan back to St Etienne in my opinion
Not when you have a defense that conceded over 50 league goals
“Will be interesting to see their xG and xGA if he’s in charge. ”
Interesting for Gambon and Pedro maybe
Chelsea will be more interested with where they finish and if they can win anything.
Cesc no guarantees at all that any of those deals will go through
People are literally paid money to make up transfer rumors. It’s literally a job.
If reports are to be believed we’ve already bought and sold about 20 players. Yet here we are.
Maybe one of those reported will actually go through – martinelli seems most likely to me because he’s young cheap and there appears to be no competition for him but even he isn’t confirmed
New post
’26m pounds is a bit much for an 18 year old you intend to loan back to St Etienne in my opinion’
True.
But if Spurs signed him and he arrived next season and looked like a top prospect ready to be a great CB we’d all be pissed.
It’s a difficult one. Given our budget we either have to be really lucky/smart and find a great CB for very little ready to run our defence or we go young and look for someone who can do that in a year or two.
Rumours Arsenal have bid £22 Million for Izzo.
26m and loaning him back seems mad to me. We need progress today, not in a year If arsenal believe he’s gonna be that good that they’d be willing to go to such lengths and that cost for him then just offer a little more cash and get him over the line for this season. Everyone has a price and his club will let him go now if we offer enough I’m not saying he’s worth the money but supposedly offering 25 odd mil plus being willing to wait a year sounds like arsenal think he will be the dogs… Read more »
Solskaer and Lampard should be an open goal for us next season I’m achieving a CL place, regardless of what happens with City. Both inexperienced managers newly in their roles.
Let’s see.
Things are extremely slow generally in the transfer market at the moment. I wonder if it’s still holiday time? Normally it takes one big transfer to go through which then kicks off the flood.
I have a feeling This transfer window will weaken Spuds for next season. Particularly if their idea of strengthening is digging around the 8m market.
Regarding the Lampard to Chelsea move, there were some reports earlier that Lampard is insisting on getting two years minimum. Chelsea could not sack him unless he can’t reach European football at all (no domestic Cup, no European Cup, less than 7th place).
It’s understandable for a new head coach to not wanting his entire career messed up because Chelsea can’t purchase anybody for a year. That gives him extra security and an extra year to fix any mistake.
It is highly likely the bulk of the Saliba fee will be paid next season. Can’t expect Emery to spend half his budget on someone who he may never see play for Arsenal !