Italian clubs drop out of winger race

by .

courtesy @allthatchas

Landed this comment yesterday, cut through my damn soul man.

Truth be this: I’m going to be padding blogs this summer harder than Mesut pads his stats, or his dictator guilt with charity offerings. The summer is tough for writing, I’m out here slogging it with the click baiters… so until something happens, it’s tough to get passionate about a goodbye Instagram post from a kid I’ve never heard of (you read that, don’t lie).

So let’s get straight into real talk.

I was thinking about advertising for hair-loss treatments yesterday. It must be the easiest game out there. If you have hair, all you think about is losing it. If you are losing it, all you think about is losing it.

Additionally, the whole of western civilisation is built around making men in their, cough, late twenties, paranoid about losing their hair. Why does there need to be a mirror on the elevator ceiling? Why are there LED POWER LIGHTS in bathrooms that shoot through your hair? Why will no female EVER say, ‘yes, you are a bald cu*t’… it’s a nightmare.

My advert for hair loss:

‘Hair loss pill. Buy.

*not scientifically proven, probs makes you grow breasts and die real quick’

GIVE ME 10 PACKETS.

Oh… I get it… football.

There are rumours that we’re in for Kieran Tierney. They aren’t very strong, regardless, they give me a sexy feeling I’d rather not have on the train. He’s 22 years old, played 170 games for Celtic and his numbers are pretty good. The pace on the lad is absolutely outrageous (again, tough to gauge how that translates), and hopefully his defending can translate to the Premier League like it did for VVD.

Barca are apparently being told €22m for Kola, who I didn’t realise is only 25 years old… so all in all, we’d be looking at a pretty good deal.

I think the challenge Arsenal fans are having at the moment is there’s literally no clue as to what the plan is this summer.

Meunier was heavily linked, now that’s gone quiet. It’s an odd place to start a rebuild… like blowing all your house budget on 2 couches when there’s no cooker for the kitchen.

… however, it’ll be hard to judge anything based on one signing. If there’s a perfect plan mapped out and he’s just part of a wider blitz of the squad, I’m happy. Two great right backs works if we take care of central defence, midfield, and the two wide positions up top. My concern is that we had glaring issues this January and we spent our loan fee on a player that was outrageously unsuited to the league and the objectives of the club because he was a friendly face.

My view on right back is that if you have Hector Bellerin who is 24 years old and an excellent player, why would you put Meunier behind him? Wouldn’t your money be better spent on someone that’s the Kieran Tierney of the right bacary world (see what I did there?)?

Anyway, I won’t say no to great players. Or any players. Or elite hair loss treatment.

I’m interested to see what ‘contacts’ football looks like. Are we going full on bargain basement from the big clubs? Find players that have something to prove, give them a new lease of life, hope they feel slighted by football and want to make something happen… a little Inter Milan under Jose.

… Wesley that season, outrageous.

Or do we hunt out elite youth talent like Saliba?

Have the feeling it’ll look more Inter Milan (if we’re lucky) based on the personnel we have at the club, but let’s see.

Carrasco rumours are hotting up a treat. The Belgian star is GAGGING for a return to Europe and the Italian clubs are dropping like flies… this is a risky move, but as many have pointed out, I’d take him over anything rolling in from Bournemouth or Palace. We’ll see… but this one seems to have legs aplenty.

Neymar seems to be loading up on problems, this model story is running hard in Brazil.

‘He beat me and he raped me, he was drunk and drugged, he says it himself in the messages, he’s a drug addict, violent, he’d need to be a prisoner or a boarding school, he has no conditions to be in society, he’s a threat to himself,’

Oof…

I only raise this story because I do find it interesting how so few players land themselves in trouble for drugs. London is littered with stories of Premier League footballers doing naughty things. Mad that only one major player has been caught and that was because Jose wanted to take him down (Mutu).

Mildly amusing watching all the Tory candidates getting pummelled for their drug stories… we constantly bemoan weirdo politicians, then insist that the people we put into power have zero life blemishes. Give me someone that’s majorly fucked up over a melt whose worst crime was to once thing about shoplifting a free newspaper.

Also pretty terrible that another footballer, at the absolute peak of their powers, is being accused of sexual misconduct and violence. Not a good look if it’s true.

Right, that’s all I have today… see you in the comments x

265 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Bankz

Bankz is here for the tr4phy again

Bankz

Let’s do this!

Bankz

Tr4phy BOOOOM

Bankz

Tr4phy

Bankz

Another day, another clean sweep

Un na naai
peanuts&monkeys

there was an online survey which asked how many EPLs will Arsenal and ManU win in the next 10 years. I put my money on ZERO for Arsenal.

if that is what most of us believe here, why scour for all this business of summers transfers? Funny

Un na naai

Peanuts

Yeah bull shit Everton level transfers at that

peanuts&monkeys

Arsenal is the Everton we knew till 2014. I have been maintaining that on every forum i get to put my two cents on.

Emiratesstroller

The rumours circulating this summer about our potential transfer business sends out one message.

That is that we are likely to recruit “unglamorous”, but potentially “solid” players. All seem to be “low budget” targets.

The impression I get is that the club is embarking on a period of “austerity”.

Arsenal could well finish next season in the sixth to tenth place range in the league rather challenging for a top four place.

Frankly I don’t understand how a club with £400 million annual revenues manages to show such limited ambition.

Wasi

Neymar story is a a made uo case it seems.First the judge ruled out the case because of contradictory statements from the supposed victim.I think they are going to a higher court.And then a video was released by the supposed victim in which it was the girl beating up on neymar and saying things like-u beat me last night and stuff.But before she starts beating him she is laying on him(kissing probably).Now why would u do that if he beat u last night.And as the video goes on it looks like she was provoking neymar to get violent or shove… Read more »

silverhawk

Fraser may not be a good dribbler but one thing he is, is a hustler,ahard worker with end product. I’ll say, get both he and Carrasco/Ziyech for both wings and let Saka and Nelson be their understudy next season. In the midfield, sell Xhaka, add a little fund and get Doucoure. Get the Sampdoria guys and a LB like Tierney or similar Go back to 4 3 3 and we’re in business. Leno Bellerin Anderson/papa Holding/*Mavro Tierney Torr Doucoure Praet Carrsasco Auba Fraser feels like a top 4 team to me. sales of Xhaka Ozil Mustafi other fringe players can… Read more »

Graham62

ES

“Frankly I don’t understand how a club with £400m annual revenues manages to show such limited ambition”

Unfortunately it’s been bred into our culture.

Acceptance of failure, you know, the occasional embarrassing debacle, encourages a mindset geared to complacency and zero ambition.

Of course, it’s all Emery’s fault!

Biggles

Thinking back to yesterday’s post: I wouldn’t read much into it that Barcelona and Inter Milan are linked with some of our players. Here’s a few reasons off the top of my head. – Barcelona buy lots of crap players – Song and uh… Denis Suarez for starters. – Inter Milan aren’t that good a team – 10 points behind Napoli who we comfortably beat. Really, outside of Juventus, all of Italian football is at the level of Wolves or worse. – Kola is limited for us because he can’t defend, but nobody claims his attacking abilities are a problem.… Read more »

Graham62

This mindset has cost us ££££££££££££££££

Victorious

there was an online survey which asked how many EPLs will Arsenal and ManU win in the next 10 years. I put my money on ZERO for Arsenal.’ Yea on one hand you can pretty much write us off doing anything of note as long as Emery is in charge but then again we’ve been plummeting into nothingness since the very moment the Yank cunt crossed path with us Obviously majority of the fans still hasn’t gotten grip of how fatal it was for us to miss CL next season we’ve just about cemented our spot as a middling club… Read more »

Vintage Gun

Yeah the Neymar situation seems like a failed attempted to extract money from him.
In the recording she’s straddling on top of him then suddenly threatens to hit him because he “assaulted and left her lonely” the previous day.

Think about that…Why would an alleged rape victim be upset because her ‘R@pist’ left her lonely???

Plus why didn’t she mention r@pe to her 1st lawyer??? He said the first he heared of that was when he she was on Tv a few days later.

Either way this is NOT a good look for Neymar

Ishola70

I don’t believe Carrasco will happen. Think it’s just him and his agent using Arsenal to drum up interest in him. When do you hear a player stating negotiations are going well to the worldwide press when both clubs are apparently in talks. Where are reps from this Chinese club and those from Arsenal actually negotiating at? Don’t sound right to me. Would prefer Ziyech. Only transfer link so far that I could see happening is this CB at Sampdoria Andersen. Looks an Arsenal type signing to me. For those that want a CB comfortable on the ball look no… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Graham 62 Frankly I don’t think that it is Emery’s fault albeit that he seems happy to operate within the framework, which has been set by the owner,board and senior management. It is clear that Kroenke has woken up to the fact that the club has not been well run for several years under management of Kroenke and Wenger. However, recruiting second tier players and turning Arsenal into a mid table club is not the solution to the problem. The owner may be mega rich, but the revenues generated by the club are dependent on the consumer i.e. those like… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Second para I meant Gazidis not Kroenke.

englandsbest

Pedro

The challenge you face, friend , is the same the sports page writers face, how to fill a page daily in this tedious period. Just so you know, you have my utmost respect.

Valentin

I would not qualify the desire to buy young unproven talented players as a lack of ambition. Deciding to go for project youth 3.0 can be a smart and effective way forward. Even Real Madrid and their Galactic approach was about mixing Star players with local youth players. The famous Peres’s motto: Zidanes and Pavones. The problem is more about the execution. We are not going after stars and we are not going after the best young players with conviction either. We may have to wait until the end of the transfer window to see if there is a grand… Read more »

Ishola70

Does anyone know why Atletico Madrid sold Carrasco to this Chinese club a year ago for just under 10m when his market value price at the time was 36m?

Words on a Blog

Pedro,

Despite disagreeing with you on a number of things, especially anything to do with the special sauciness of Emery, Arteta and various other managers, I have HUUUGE sympathies with you and any football blogger trying to create meaningful near-daily content in the face of zero credible information, rumours created by spotty ITK teen bloggers and cynical journalist hacks, and something akin to an information blackout from the club.

Plenty of things wrong with Arsenal; this blog is not part of the problem.

Emiratesstroller

Valentin

I have no problem promoting youth into the first team squad. However, these players are realistically likely to be squad players rather than starting X1 selections.

What the club does need are players who can make us competitive with top 4
and that is not going to happen with the type of recruits we are currently looking at.

Ishola70

Looks like transfermarkt may have the Carrasco transfer fee wrong.

Simeone anyhow got fed up with Carrasco’s irregular form and his lack of team ethic. Suspect character.

If I thought this transfer link was true I’d say steer clear of him.

Knoxville

“However, recruiting second tier players and turning Arsenal into a mid table
club is not the solution to the problem.”

Inject this comment into my bulging veins stroller!

Arsenal should be going in for Ziyech, not Fraser. Skriniar instead of Andersen. We need personnel that are going to make The Arsenal great again and not a team that slightly better than Wolves.

Imagine binning Xhaka for a guy who is slightly better than him defensively and cant hit screamers or spray sexy 30 yard passes. Comical.

englandsbest

Emiratestroller Your view pretty much matches my own. A Club with Arsenal’s revenue ought to be competing with the best, not scrabbling around for cheap second-raters. Dreadfully run by Wenger and Gazidis, the man who hired them must carry a lot of the blame. Not for an instant do I believe Stan will alter his bottom-line policy. This translates into little or no net money for transfers. Which leaves two possible courses for Emery (or any manager), stuck with an overpaid underachieving squad. He can patch up the squad here and there. Or he can get rid of the overpaid,… Read more »

David Smith

Carrasco at least sounds special sauce

Ishola70

David Smith
“Carrasco at least sounds special sauce”

lol yeah special sauce that will give you the shits after eating/indulging.

Graham62

Victorious

“It’s been coming”

That’s right.

Since 2006.

Graham62

ES

I was being sarcastic.

I know it’s not Emery’s fault.

Cheers.

Marc

Pedro

I think all of the regular posters who whilst disagreeing on all manor of things all appreciate the time, effort and patience you put into the site.

You don’t have to agree with what written but if you don’t like it that much you can always not visit the site.

Cesc Appeal

I think there’s a mix of targets, some bargain basement attempts like Carrasco but also a good number of young players are being linked like Andersen, Saliba, Tierney, Claude Maurice, Palacios, Chalov etc. I don’t think you can understate the monumental task we have with this squad. Only 1 full back in the entire squad who is out until October and goodness knows how he returns, no competent CB pairing, no physicality and pace in central midfield and no wingers at all. Add to that the fact our budget is being affected by a wage bill that is about £50… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

englands best Arsenal need to apply a cull of many in the current squad. That was a policy which was adopted by Saracens in 2008 when they had a lot of underperforming “name” players. They replaced them with a combination of academy and young top class talent. Of course it takes time to build a successful team, but now they can afford to be highly selective when they bring in new players. Let’s be honest there is a lot of dross in our squad at the moment. Apart from the departures already announced we should be aiming to offload Jenkinson,… Read more »

CG

If our PedRo- is concerned about hair loss now- CG has an ominous warning for him. From 12 months from now-I predict he will be looking like Kojak.*** Raul and Emery will see to that. Our Arsenal stress levels will be acute as ever. (Only Josh K can save us ( and ultimately themselves ) with a radical reboot….and employ people who love Arsenal and KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. They have not a Clue. The art of Football management is to improve the players you have by coaching or inspiring them or recruiting better. Buying players randomly and for… Read more »

Valentin

Stroller, I think that you overestimate the quality of some the players we are linked with and underestimate the quality of the U23 players we have. Looking at what we got and what we are looking after, I would say: * Willock deserved be starting in Ramsey role if we play 4-3-2-1 * Saliba should be first starter initially as right back before Bellerin full return. Then he should be moved to the CB role, with Koscielny phasing out. Alternating pairing of Sokratis – Holding and Saliba – Koscielny for Europa League. With Mavrapanos as substitute. * Carrasco and Reiss… Read more »

CG

Emirates

You are talking tripe.
Release 9 players??

Arsenal 2 Man Utd 0

We were 3rd with 7 games to play.

Ozil,Rambo and Xhaka all played superbly.

Our manager then decided to prioritize
The Loosers Cup for Personal Gains over us finishing top 4.

(Costing us millions and probably The Zaha signing in the process)

Keep the players. All of them
And Lets see how they perform with a manager They respect.

Emery cost Arsenal Big Time- Because he wanted a 4th Loosers Cup on his CV

And that’s the Truth.

Globalgunner
Cesc Appeal

Spurs, Milan and Ateltico are all rumoured to be looking at one of or both Andersen and Praet as well.

That’s a good sign.

Arsenal have apparently offered £47 Million for the pair.

englandsbest

Emiratestroller

I would throw in a winger (or two). Maybe Reiss Nelson will do?

Marc

Cesc

You watch the attitude towards those players change on here if the Spud’s sign either / both of them. Suddenly they’ll be fucking amazing, you’ll get nothing but constant comments throughout the season on how good they are in matches / what they’ve done.

If all the people on here who need to take a deep breath did it at once it’d cause atmospheric damage.

Guns of Hackney

Neymar doesn’t look like he could beat himself off, let alone another person. He plays like a cunt, acts like one…ergo, probably is a cunt. He also advertises Diesel…and only cunts and woofters wear anything Diesel.

Emery doesn’t have a plan. Tomorrow: water wet.

Sack the twat.

Guns of Hackney

Hair loss. So what. I wear a power donut myself and the ladies dig that look something fierce.

Nelson

Valentin
“More like a mix of Sven left behind list, Raul’s contact list and Edu’s Brazilian market knowledge.”
and Emery’s old players

El Gooner

Carrasco? Anyone actually seen his figures?

Career stats – a goal every 4 and an assist every 5 – and that’s spending a year in CHINA! Was never first choice at Madrid, whilst I understand signing from Bournemouth isn’t sexy and shows how far we’ve dropped our levels, at least these guys have had 1 decent season in the Premiership!

Emiratesstroller

CG

We have already offloaded 5 players in Cech, Lichsteiner, Ramsey, Welbeck and Suarez. Also I think that it is highly likely that Ospina is not returning to club.

So offloading another 3-4 players is not unrealistic with due respect to you.

The Manager is not leaving this summer so the opinions and respect of other
players most notably Ozil are frankly irrelevant.

Leedsgunner

With the loan deal for Saliba I think St.Ettine is trying hard to have their cake and eat it too… in asking for a loan back deal? Unfortunately unless the player himself forces a move, there is very little we can do because we have next to leverage if other suitors have Champions League football to offer. Why don’t we meet them halfway? Give them £9m for them to have Saliba until January? We can then give them someone like Mavropanos or Medley on loan for the rest of the season from January 2020… and take Saliba in return. We… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Valentin I do not “overestimate” the players we are linked to or “underestimate” the youth at the club. Frankly I don’t know most of the players we are linked with, but if they were players of the highest quality there would be a queue of other clubs in England and elsewhere lining up to buy them. The fact that there is not is indicative of there status. I am not suggesting that players like Nelson and Willock will not make the starting eleven lineup, but at the moment both are fairly inexperienced and they need to walk before they can… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

Marc Haha. They’re just ready to be angry about everything. Like last summer, the tantrums when Licthsteiner was signed as if that was going to be it. We actually had a very competent summer last year. By the sounds of things coming out of the club there has been a plan for a while and I would imagine they have their eye on various targets, various sales and are trying to make the budget stretch as much as possible. I think we’re going to see buys we didn’t necessarily expect. Defence: Meunier, Andersen, Tierney (maybe Saliba) seem most likely. Midfield:… Read more »

Words on a Blog

Pedro,

It used to be that we had to wait until
Wenger made his mind up as to whether he wanted a player and whether the price quoted was acceptable.

Now we wait until a committee lacking a technical director and a permanent head of recruitment reaches a consensus

Cesc Appeal

The article is a bit daft though, Mislintat felt Carrasco was sidelined for Suarez…yeah because the Chinese club wanted to sell him and we had no funds…this the same Carrasco we’re now buying?

Valentin

Emirates, Saliba is wanted by Arsenal, ManUtd, ManCity. We had to convinced Reiss Nelson to sign a new contract before his loan to Hoffenheim. He was wanted by Hoffenheim, Dortmund, Bayern and RB Leipzig. Joe Willock was wanted by ManUtd, Benfica where his brothers were playing. Both were at Arsenal and were poached when we dithered. Their respective move really messed up their career, so I think Willock who was always the most talented is more likely to stay. However if he gets an opportunity for first team place at a good club, he could leave. The queue of clubs… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Pedro

Read that, you can’t help but cringe at some of the stuff emanating from the club sometimes. So amateurish to have communication channels entrenched like that.

Is it any wonder it takes us the length of Jan to secure a Denis Suarez sort. We are so unbearably slow at these things.

Valentin

Pedro,

That article seems to confirm my worst fear. Raul wants to be in charge for his CV, but refuse to make the hard decision that could backfire on him.
Gazidis was the same wanted Arteta, but finally relented with Emery. Never confronted Wenger about the lack of structure and proper delegation of responsibility until way too late.

Nothing good and consistent is done via committee. Everybody hide behind the “it was an unanimous decision”. And no forward, challenging decision is ever taken. Zero accountability.

CG

Ch Ch Great point. And what about on the last day of the last January window. When The Clowns decided to loan out our youngsters to German clubs. (Talk about make it up as you Go Along.) One of them being injured.( ESR) I am totally bewildered- why Josh in particular stands for all this amateurism at the club I mean even if they dont know too much about football. It takes 30 seconds to Google Unai Emery and see his Wikki page etc and Recoil at it. Why do they persist going down into this path to oblivion? They… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Pedro

I’ve heard nothing but that (stalled summer) being a reality, hear we’re wedded to bringing Zaha over and will negotiate all summer. I’m a fan, but bruh can we just not..

If we don’t have a plan in place it’s genuinely as bad as it is when folk mock and use hyperbole. That’d be unforgivable at this point.

Looking like Edu needs to arrive here on a white steed with sunshine and rainbows behind him (and about 4 Uber talents from Latin America).

Guns of Hackney

Washed up footballers.
Shite CEO.
Bullshit staff.

Just another day at Arsenal.

Honestly, who really thinks Edu is the messiah and will rid the club of the plagues of egypt?

We’ve already had Monchi pass on us…overmars…who else?

Graveyard club.

Guns of Hackney

Zaha for £30m is about right. A good domestic player, nothing more.

I’m sure we could sling a couple of our superstar academy gems their way and £29,999,998.00.

Graham62

CG As always, very entertaining( re: 11:35 post) From your “They have not a clue” perception, you could have used the names of our previous regime to highlight all your points. The art of football management ………. Buying players randomly……… It’s a policy deemed to failure……. Going into another season with Wenger is a cataclysmic mistake…… And my favourite “Arsenal’s descent into total mediocrity continues apace” I was using the same arguments from 2008. The hole created by our decade of neglect will take a great deal of time to fill in, no matter who’s in charge. Keep sucking on… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Pedro Yea he absolutely isn’t worth that, he’s 50mil and even then it’s one you’d have to hold your breath signing off on because we’re budgeted so tightly. He’s certainly not a player I’d want to play chicken with all summer because we don’t have a good memory of that type approach. Last I talked to anyone about Zaha was last week and it was same info, we want, he wants, and we’re aiming to fudge a deal plus players. When pressed it was more speculative stuff about Chambers there and Reiss Nelson on loan, plus like 30-40 mil. Here’s… Read more »

Moray

@Pedro, at least with Wenger we just had one decision maker who couldn’t make up his mind. Now we have several. We asked for a flat management structure and this is what we have got. The incompetence is shared rather than personified in an all powerful manager.

CG

Well said Guns Of H.

If anyone( including our esteemed author)
Thinks Edu is a panacea to our problems.

They need to up their medication.
High Dosage Levels.

Edu the Sychophant like Emery is a plant By Raul to facilitate the deals Raul wants and not what the club needs.

There is a reason why people like Raul always have those ‘sandpaper’ voices… its because it’s all that BS they spill.

He has to Go.
He is Toxic

CG

Good Ebening Graham

Thank you and apologises for not acknowledging you yesterday.

Hows that Cricket…
Tick Tock.

Moray

“I am totally bewildered- why Josh in particular stands for all this amateurism at the club”

Is Josh known for his competence? He strikes me as a Donald Trump Jr kind of character.

Moray

Have we activated the Dick Law yet?

Guns of Hackney

The whole club is a clown college. Everyone graduates with honours.

Victorious

Graham

You think there’s a chance you go a day without yapping about Wenger?

Alexanderhenry

Pedro ‘I think the challenge Arsenal fans are having at the moment is there’s literally no clue as to what the plan is this summer.’ Arsenal, no plan? No arsenal fan should be surprised by this. ‘My concern is that we had glaring issues this January and we spent our loan fee on a player that… Etc’ That’s a ‘loan fee’ Pedro. That’s all poor Emery had to work with. My concern is that there was ‘no money’ in January allegedly. Are you really happy with that from Arsenal football club? The purchase of a decent defender in Jan probably… Read more »

Valentin

Some people are still hanged up on Wenger.

Look forward, not backward.
Trying to justify today’s incompetence and Cover Your Ass Behaviour by the fact the previous regime was bad as well.

You can use that excuse for so long before it become obvious the mess you’re in is of your own making. It took Liverpool six months to put an effective structure and personnel in place. 12 months later, behind the scene staff wise we are in the same if not worst position than before.

Pedro

Alex, not sure I’d have spent that loan fee on Suarez if I’m honest… also not shocked we didn’t want to spend in January.

Marc

I’m not sure I put too much stock into what agents are saying about the club. Do we really want agents thinking we’re an easy touch?

If we’re playing hard ball in places I don’t have an issue with that. Everyone seems to be in a bit of a panic because we haven’t completed all of our summer business yet. I can only think of the Hazard deal (not yet registered with Madrid) and the ManU kid from Swansea that are done deals.

Emiratesstroller

Pedro

My feedback is that even staff at the club are clueless about what Arsenal are doing in transfer market let alone the journalists.

My instinct tells me that Arsenal are prioritising this summer offloads before they start recruiting new players.

Logic dictates that we make some sales first to increase the transfer budget.

Graham62

Pedro/Victorious Only if and when I’m not fed the bait. Three things though- 1. Comparing Liverpool’s situation to that of our own is, to put it mildly, way off base. 2. My Wenger “yapping” only comes about when other posters create an obvious and predictable opening. 3. Although most posters ignore CG, I take pleasure in responding. Even if it is boring and predictable. Tit for tat and all that. People winge on here everyday about Emery, as is their prerogative. My objective is merely to point out things that many of these same people are well aware of but… Read more »

Graham62

Ffs, how can people compare Liverpool’s situation to that of our own?

Incredible!!

Liverpool and their proactive fanbase set the wheels in motion long before Klopps arrival( 2010 to be precise, when the Fenway Sports Group took control).

Systems and Structures were already set up before Jurgen came a knocking.

He just added that extra weight.

The rest is history.

Graham62

Liverpool FC, out of respect, allowed their fans to dig them out of a hole.

Our lot just frigging ignored us.

Siddharth14

For a club which is desperately trying to be in the top 4, I find it strange to believe that we did not have money in January. The board must surely have seen that we needed defensive cover even if on a loan considering that Top 4 was so important and Kos coming back from serious injury. This was either a failure at our new recruitment setup or the club had little faith in Emery. If it is the latter then it paints a very grim picture for summer and raises even more questions. Seriously, is there any other club… Read more »

Dissenter

Who knew having a transfer committee running the process will take more time?

What a pointless article to cite from football London. It doesn’t cite any sources or examples, just conjecture.

Pedro, you wanted a better structure that what we had before. It’s not going to run like a Chinese bullet train from the get-go.

Dissenter

Graham
“Systems and Structures were already set up before Jurgen came a knocking.”
Thanks foe reminding the usual actors of this point.
I recall the media were writing about the misdeeds of the Liverpool transfer committee as far back as when Kenny Daglish was in charge.

It took them a lot more than 6-months to get it right for sure.

Dissenter

The Arsenal situation is a lot more complicated than Pedro knows nor wants to acknowledge.
We have a lot of crap to move out and not enough money to rebuild. Under those conditions, you would expect people to do due diligence before jumping into deals.

None of the major clubs in England have announced transfer deals yet [except for United buying a championship player for the future].

We just have to wait and see what Raul and Vinai do in their first summer window in charge.

Marc

“It took them a lot more than 6-months to get it right for sure.”

Wining the CL is a fantastic achievement but the fact is Liverpool are desperate to win the PL, they haven’t won a league title for 29 years now. You could argue that they still haven’t got it 100% yet and that’s with Klopp being in charge for 4 seasons now.

Fucking Arsenal not getting things instantly right – the useless wankers.

Marc

On a completely different subject there’s story doing the rounds that Chelsea could go back in for Mourinho.

Am I the only one who thinks that could end up having great comedy value.

Valentin

The structure and the personnel were put in place after the sacking of Kenny Dalglish. Coaching staff personnel may have changed since, but Liverpool has never been in a situation without a proper DoF and permanent head of recruitment in place during a transfer window. In fact bar the change in the headcoach the transfer committee Head of Recruitment ( Dave Fallows), Head of performance and Analysis (Michael Edwards), Chief Scout (Barry Hunter) has not changed since its inception. At Arsenal, Sven left, according to report Forsythe is looking to leave, Edu is not in yet, there is no permanent… Read more »

Pierre

Sid “For a club which is desperately trying to be in the top 4, I find it strange to believe that we did not have money in January. The board must surely have seen that we needed defensive cover even if on a loan considering that Top 4 was so important and Kos coming back from serious injury.” Same….it’s not like we had a net spend of 100’s of millions over the last 2 seasons… Was just over 60 mil ,equating to 30 mil a season over the last 2 seasons. I am not sure they trust Emery otherwise ,… Read more »

Alexanderhenry

Pedro

You’re nitpicking.

We had a serious injury crisis in defence going into the second half of the season. With CL football on the line, it was not too much to expect a club of arsenal’s size to make some extra funds available.

It could have made all the difference and is yet another example of how arsenal’s parsimonious attitude has hamstrung the club.
No urgency, no ambition.

Blame Emery all you want, but a successful, modern club has to be flexible and focused, financially.

Valentin

Marc,

I am not arguing about the success of the team itself. There is no guarantee in competitive sports. You may be the best prepared, talented, organised in your field and lose because of a freak opponent (ManCity, Bob Beamon, …), Bad luck, your own Mistake at a crucial time, an official mistake.

I am arguing that Arsenal is not well organised behind the scene. Making it even more difficult to be successful. Bad or no planning does not mean you cannot win, but it make any repeat of unexpected success highly unlikely. Lightning rarely strike twice.

Alexanderhenry

Graham62

Fair points regarding the Fenway group.

Look at their achievements with the red sox as well.

CG

Marc Re. Mourinho You really are a strange one. Our London rivals ( Chelsea) who have just walloped us 4 zip in a final are now looking to possiby reappoint a colourful, multi- lingual,controversial, proven premier league Champion whilst at the same time You sing the merits of our coach- who in comparison is a footballing Dunce. I would say the Laughing is on us ( and most definitely You and your ilk) No major club in England would have appointed Emery And only ones- who who are a Joke-( Arsenal 2019) would persist with him.. When you have a… Read more »

Dissenter

The Fenway sports moneyball approach hasn’t always produced good results. At least that organization has a reputation for success so they had a methodology to implement. The Kroenke’s are just bland. He bought Arsenal and was happy to hide behind Wenger and “Arsenal values”
I think people are understating or trying to ignore the transitional growing pains that occurs when a club that has done business in a particular manner for two decades under one all-powerful individual has to shift course.

Words on a Blog

AlexanderHenry,

A defensive injury crisis was not enough to rouse KSE from its complacent torpor, hoping that Emery would do just enough to sneak us into the Top 4. It was another low stakes gamble from Stan, and he lost again.

Injury crisis or no injury crisis, Pedro is 100% sold on the one-year self-sustaining mantra spouted by KSE.

Cost-cutting is king, so we’ll cost cut our way into mid-table mediocrity.

Then we can all blame Emery for being shit, or to use LeGrovian lexicon, not special sauce enough.

Alexanderhenry

CG

If Mourihno goes to Chelsea – I’m sure he won’t but you never know- i’ll be overjoyed.

The guy is an absolute busted flush.
The only thing he’s still capable of is spending hundreds of millions on players–but I could that.
The Mourihno brand is trashed and is about as appealing as poo on toast.

Alexanderhenry

WOAB

Yep, well said.

Even if a magic wand waiving super coach exists, why would he join arsenal?

1 2 3