Arsenal going Project British with wide players?

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Heard some sexy rumblings that Arsenal and Zaha are into each other (player supported us as a kid). Obviously, anything can happen in football, so don’t hack my site if it doesn’t happen, but the intent is apparently there and real.

That is interesting. The £40m transfer budget we’re pitching must be a low ball figure, unless Raul and Vinai have been working players out the door to foot the bill for the deal.

When you look at us solving our wide player issues with Zaha and Fraser, I think the risk on the Scotsman looks a little smarter. We’d by buying in 24 assists and 17 goals.

I can get behind that. We’d be buying two players that have worked under managers that demand a high intensity style of football. They will both have something to prove on a couple of levels. Fraser needs to prove he’s worth the punt, and not the Scott Parker of 2019. Zaha needs to lay to rest the ghosts of his horrible move to United a few years ago.

Both moves are either going to cement us to the Europa League for years to come, or they’re smart British buys that don’t have the sex appeal of a foreign buy, but deliver in the same way Liverpool has delivered signing boring names like Andy Robertson.

The big move for Arsenal, in my humble opinion, is the centre back. We need a huge upgrade. United has lost their damn mind, apparently offering De Ligt £450k a week to join from Ajax. They are going for the straight up Liverpool move of upgrading to the best possible player they can find. Hard to not see the move as anything other than elite. The player is a leader, he’s an unreal talent, and he’ll probably look like a bargain in 5 years time.

That’s a game-changing signing. They still have a talent issue with the manager, and that’ll be hard to turnaround, but at least they are stocking up with proper players.

That sort of move really means Arsenal can’t afford to fuck around this summer. It also means the Champions League game on Wednesday is of next level importance. If it goes well, then next season makes sense. If it goes badly, what are we chasing as a club and are we falling into the same trap of letting elite coaches pass us by?

We shall see. See you in the comments. x

Update: Kante injured… wonderful. United NOT in the race for De Ligt.

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HillWood

A few years back everyone one on here was creaming themselves over how good Michitarian is and Arsenal must sign him
Now it seems Zaha is the latest recruitment fad

Valentin

@Marko,

They (Leeds if QSI buy them) definitely won’t win a league title inside 5 years. Things are a little different to the French league.

How long did it took for ManCity to win the league after being bought by the United Arab Emirates owner?

Valentin

@Victorious,

Instead of blaming Wenger, blame the people in charge when they make boneheaded decisions.
I am pretty sure that Wenger had no say whatsoever with the hiring of Vinay and Raul. So you can’t blame that on him.
If they mess things up, then it’s on them not on Wenger.
Time to move on.

Marko

How long did it took for ManCity to win the league after being bought by the United Arab Emirates owner?

Again this isn’t like in France where PSG buy the league every single season. In a England Leeds would have City United Chelsea and Liverpool competing. But it’s mostly because of those rules that they have. There’s no way they can have Leeds in the Champions League as well as PSG

Words on a Blog

Bob/N16/Valentin,

Jus catching up with the comments and thanis for giving your impressions on Bielik.

Definitely worth keeping either him or Chambers as back-up CDM/CB. Which one we sell will probably come down to how much we want to raise for our other squad/first team objectives in central midfield, LB, and wide attacker

Champagne Charlie

Hillwood

You not rate Zaha?

Words on a Blog

Sorry left out Nelson and nw9 from the Bielik watchers

Nw9 gooner

WOB – retain both Chambers and Bielek -they are better than what we have- Chambers has been the best player for Fulham and Bielek has been great for Charlton

Nw9 gooner

What needs to be done is now to have players in the first eleven – our funds do not allow us to strengthen our bench now

Sid

I too find Zaha a little overhyped, I mean his numbers are rather underwhelming for being the mustard n all that. However I do concede the point that being the main man in palace, he is probably marker a lot more than what he would be if he lines up with laca and auba.

Though with the English premium, I doubt we would have hr financial strength to sign him unless we move out some of the players (which to me is even more important that who we bring in)

Valentin

@Marko,

Both RB clubs RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg are own by the same company, but have found way to circumvent UEFA restrictions.

Before the arrival of the current ManCity owners nobody would have thought that ManCity could compete for the league never mind win it on a regular basis.

If QSI decide to throw a billions pound to Leeds to win the EPL, apart from ManCity I can’t see who could compete with them for the EPL title in the long run.

Marko
Marko

Point still stands I do not see Leeds United winning a league inside 5 years. Investment or no they’d be competing with heavy hitters unlike in France. I actually like the French league there’s decent football and players to be had but in saying that it’s a total farce of a league it’s not remotely competitive

Samesong

I don’t particular like lee Bowyer but he’s done an amazing job down at Charlton.

Marko

I think the ownership rules in Germany were the reason they didn’t break any rules. In Germany the fans have to have a controlling stake in the club and Red Bull circumvented that by having 51% of Leipzig owned by people who work in the Red Bull factory. Whereas Salzburg is owned I believe by the co founder of red bull by himself. Basically not the same as QSI owning both PSG and Leeds

Charlie Nick

AC Milan fail to reach CL. Gazidis can fall back on some tried and tested spin AKA bullsh*t!

Nelson

Valentin

Leipzig and Salzburg are from different countries. Maybe the rule allows teams from different countries with the same owner.

Valentin

@Marko, RB have just circumvented the rules, but both club are owned by RB. They have organised the decisional structure in such a way that the owner cannot have “undue influence” on football matter. The idea is that UEFA did not want the owner of two teams being able to decide the outcome of games if both teams were in the same competition. As of 2015, Red Bull GmbH is the main shareholder of RasenballSport Leipzig GmbH, holding 99 percent of the shares. The remaining one percent is held by the association. However, as required by the 50 + 1… Read more »

Marko

both club are owned by RB

Technically speaking Salzburg is owned by an individual and Leipzig is owned a company with the association having controlling power (50+1). It’s not quite the same as QSI owning two clubs. That’s why I think if they were to buy Leeds they wouldn’t invest as much because they could never have Leeds and PSG in the same European competition. You might see Leeds in the Europa League

Words on a Blog

Marko/Valentin,

Qatar is a tiny country, which is effectively owned by its royal family and a few other associated families and trading families.

The key Qatari royals could easily find another vehicle company to own another football club if they wanted to – no need to use QSI.

To the extent the vehicle company formally had a different ownership structure than QSI, they could even argue it was a competitor to QSI.

Words on a Blog

Moral of the story above: big money always finds a way to do what it wants!

Valentin

@Marko, The EPL had heavy hitters in ManUtd, Chelsea and Arsenal at the time. All it took is less than 5 years and lots of money. If tomorrow Leeds is promoted to the premiership with Bielsa at his head, their budget will explode. Once in the premiership, they will spend the first two years to consolidate and build their squad. If they don’t qualify for the Champion’s league for the first two years, then the FFP will not affect them. By then they would have already a team able of competing. Even without Leeds, there will be a lot of… Read more »

Valentin

In France, Lille and Lyon were owned by two brothers. Strangely enough until one of the brother sold his majority stake in Lyon, the biggest transfer were between Lille and Lyon.

Lille kept buying players and then once they had proved their worth, Lyon was buying them at a relatively cheap price.

Because technically it was two separate person, it was perfectly above board.

Valentin

@Marko,

Both clubs are owned by the same legal entity Red Bull GmbH.

Words on a Blog

“….there will be a lot of upheaval at the top of the premiership. some teams are not as financially secure as you think”.

True, but the moment of money in the Premiership is significantly more than in other leagues.

In La Liga, for example, I think less than a year ago Barca had to borrow funds to pay its wages..

Forbes is reporting that Atlético Madrid’s imminent squad restructuring was forced by its poor finan situation – caused in part by Griezmann’s wage increase after he decided to stay at the end of the 17/18 season…..

Marko

The key Qatari royals could easily find another vehicle company to own another football club if they wanted to – no need to use QSI.

That’s something different to QSI owning PSG and buying Leeds though

Marko

Both clubs are owned by the same legal entity Red Bull GmbH.

Technically Salzburg are owned by an individual Dietrich Mateschitz. Again technically speaking

Words on a Blog

Marko,

Sure, it’s different.

All I’m saying is that if it QSI looks like it’s likely to get blocked from buying Leeds, and the Qatari royals insist on acquiring an English side to play out their little rivalry with their arch-enemies the Emirati royals, their lawyers could advise them to find another entity through which to invest.

Joe

Man city’s owners half bro on brink on buying Newcastle.

Add another team into the mix of top 4

Words on a Blog

Who knows, maybe then the Sultan of Oman (significantly less wealthy than the Emiratis and Qataris) might be tempted to play the long game and buy Accrington Stanley!

Joe

WoaB

Most teams in the PL made 100m
Just from participating in the league

Words on a Blog

Joe,

Yeah, plenty of money sloshing around in the PL.

Unless the Glazers siphon out too much cash and Woodward keeps spending astronomical sums on wages and transfer fees over at Man U, can’t really see anybody struggling in the EPL in the near future

HillWood

Charlie
Ange Aus Arsenal link above is a good read
If we are buying him for his goals he has never scored more than nine in a season

SpainishDave

Zaha goes down easily to get penalties Palace had the most pens last season.
Next year we have VAR so he will loose his ability to get pens.

Tobs

Zaha, brings a lot of what we lack currently- pace, power, dribbling, trickery. He wins a lot of fouls and penalties. His end product however is under par. For the reputed amount that palace want, there are other players out there who will do a similar job and have the advantage of more of an end product. If we are going to blow that much on one player, might as well go for Pepe.

Tobs

To have a good summer, we need to get CL football firstly, then raise more money by selling certain players. Nothing players like Elneny have to go, we’ll take whatever we can get for him. Jenkinson is out of contract this summer. I would propose selling Chambers as well, he’s had a good loan and with the English premium would garner £15-20 million. Mustafi has to go, and will probably get another £15-20 million. Xhaka whilst not being the biggest problem in the squad, can’t run, can’t tackle, can’t receive the ball under any sort of pressure, has the turning… Read more »

Tobs

As it is we are losing 3 homegrown players in Welbeck, Ramsey and Jenkinson, so that has to be borne in mind. Maybe that’s why we’re being linked with Zaha and Fraser. We’ve got to keep up the homegrown quota.
Bielik is 21 now, so he’s likely to be part of the squad next season as a home grown player.

Tobs

Same as AMN.

Tobs

Iwobi gets a lot of hate on these pages, but for those wishing him to leave, that’s unlikely to happen.

Emiratesstroller

Pedro The senior management have made it clear in recent days that despite the club not appointing as yet a Football Director that they know who are their targets and are progressing in negotiations. There has been absolutely no suggestion that we have only £40 million net to spend in this transfer window. Personally I believe that Arsenal will be targeting specifically on THREE starting eleven players this summer and any additions to the squad will be low budget acquisitions. I think that Saha makes far more sense than Fraser notwithstanding that he is older. He is a better and… Read more »

Tobs

2 of our current homegrown players are keepers, Iliev and Martinez. Iliev is 24 years, Martinez 26. One will maybe become 2nd choice when Cech leaves, the other may leave.

Martinez was out on loan in Reading and has already made noises about leaving to get first team football. I believe his contract expires this summer.

Iliev is contracted till the summer as well.

Goonah

Tobs

Homegrown is a non issue for us. We only have 12 non homegrown when players out of contract leaves. So we can buy 5 more before we even start selling
Mustafi
Elneny
Kolasinac
Xhaka

Goonah

forgot Torreira, so 13 or whatever. Not a problem for us anyways

Tobs

Goonah, not saying it’s a problem in terms of buying players, just that we need to acquire a few home grown players as well.

Tobs

If Umtiti is over his injuries, he would be a good signing.

Valentin

Using this season list as basis, the only over 21 years old home grown players in Arsenal squad are: Holding Bellerin AMN Iwobi Martinez Iliev Jenkinson (contract expires in 2020 not this summer) Bramall Cohen (contract expires this summer) That is less than the maximum 8 to fill up the 25 man premiership squad. Willock, Nkethia, Reiss Nelson will still qualify as U21 next season so will not need to be on the official list. With at least one of Martinez and Iliev either sold or send on loan, we will be short of 2 over age home grown players.… Read more »

Pierre

Last summer the acquisitions were what we needed and were relatively successful up to a point and most fans were fairly pleased with the transfer business. However, I feel a lot of fans have lost faith in the process due to the Saurez debacle in January. Listening to the Raul interview and him explaining how the process works it baffles me as to how they ended up with Saurez. Saurez, one could say , is of a similar ilk to Mhkitaryan, iwobi, Ramsey and Ozil..none of these players had long term injuries. I can only think that a lot of… Read more »

Jamie

We don’t need to name 8 (>21) HG players in the squad. We won’t have an issue with any HG criteria next season unless we plan on having 25 (>21) players in the 1st team, which we won’t. Start of next season squad list (non HG): Leno Kos Mustafi Sokratis Nacho Mustafi Mavro Kola Elneny Mkhi Ozil Xhaka Torreira Laca Auba 15 players. We’ll likely be getting rid of Elneny. Potential to bin either Ozil or Mkhi too, as well as Mustafi. Frees up 3 additional places in the squad list, so we can add another 5 ‘foreign’ players to… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

Pierre Thought we’d gone over this before? Trying for 1 month to get players in and only failing because we didn’t have a pot to piss in (because of you know who) and getting in our 3-4th option on a short term loan is not the same as sitting on your ass the whole window to then panic at the last moment and getting in a over the hill player (that was never good enough for us in any moment of his career) with a broken back. It’s nice of you to continue doing PR for Wenger to make him… Read more »

Valentin

Yes technically, premiership clubs could have only 15 players, nobody should seriously expect a team of 15 players to compete for both the premiership and one European competition.
Suspensions, injuries will happen.
Out of the over 21 years old player in the premiership squad, the only players Arsenal have not used in the premiership are Iliev, Martinez (both Goalkeepers) and Cohen Bramall.

Jamie

Clubs can name 17 over 21 non-HG players, which is par for the course unless you’re City.

We don’t remotely have any HG issues, and we aren’t in for Fraser/Zaha in order to satisfy any HG requirements.

Dissenter

Pierre, ‘Last summer the acquisitions were what we needed and were relatively successful up to a point and most fans were fairly pleased with the transfer business. However, I feel a lot of fans have lost faith in the process due to the Saurez debacle in January’ You’re the sewage guy around these parts; Another day, another type of bollocks. The club insisted that the Suarez experiment was limited to a 6 -month loan to reduce exposure to a mistake. The said player arrived on Jan 31st and formally left on April 29th [ending his loan] the exposure was 3… Read more »

Dissenter

I’v repeatedly asked Pierre to name ONE useful central defender that moved [on loan or permanently] in the Jan window.
He’s still yet to come up with one name.

Dissenter

It seems Kante has fuc*ed up has knee again in training.
It just goes from bad to worse for Chelsea
The club won’t even refute the rumors that Sarri is leaving

Victorious

No amount of sugar coating can cover the Suarez debacle,it was a monumental fvck up from Raul and his cronies
I mean i never thought it possible we could even be debating a sign worse than Kallstrom

Epic bantz

Dark Hei

I think we are all bored to death waiting for the final.

When Arsenal fans are bored, we can always fall back on WO vs AKB.

Dissenter

Victorious
Very well. Your application to join your pal, Pierre in the sewage squad is granted.
Morning about a player that was at Arsenal for three months. Why do you think he made that exit announcement, two months before the end of the season?
Do you think it was out of the goodness of his heart?
It’s because we signed an iron-clad contract- he had to leave so we could end the wage payments.

Dissenter

*Moaning about

Dark Hei

Suarez loan signing was no good. That is a fact.

You can’t say it is understandable because the previous manager was bad, which is why it is ok to sign Suarez on loan.

The disconnect in logic is just too far.

Pierre

Vic
I’m sure fred, Dissenter ,RH , Bamford etc are pretty embarrassed after what happened in the January window though they won’t admit it.

For years they have harped on about the Kallstrom signing , then within 6 months of Wenger leaving we have exactly the same scenario ….classic ..you couldn’t make it up , all those highly paid professionals sitting round a table , all those great football minds locked together in one room and what do they come up with …..Saurez, a player that we are not sure whether Emery wanted or not….

Pierre

Dissenter
“Why do you think he made that exit announcement, two months before the end of the season?
Do you think it was out of the goodness of his heart?
It’s because we signed an iron-clad contract- he had to leave so we could end the wage payments.”

So that makes it ok then does it…let’s face it , it was a cock up of epic proportions if you take into consideration the criticism of Wenger’s dealings (and rightly so) and how our new highly paid professionals were supposed to know what they are doing….Obviously not.

Dissenter

Barca wanted to hoodwink us into placing a permanent clause into the Suarez deal, we pushed back until they relented and removed it. The said player came on board the last day of the window. The player wasn’t good for purpose – that’s the whole idea of a loan, to limit your exposure. We made him leave early…dammit, so what’s the fuss? How can Pierre suggest that this very limited failed loan deal ‘has made people lose faith in the process’? That’s the stretching of logic that’s frankly silly. Did the loan fail?, certainly yes. But to yammer on about.a… Read more »

CG

Pierre “””.Listening to the Raul interview and him explaining how the process works it baffles me as to how they ended up with Saurez.”””” (A ripsnorter of a post by the way!) Posters who skirt over this outrageously controversial deal – really should wise up. It can only be 2 things A) Maybe- he quite simply- has not got a clue what he is doing? Or B) Raul was clearly not working in a Arsenal best interests. ( he ushered Ramsey out of the door- because they wanted Suarez as his replacement- remember) The rumours linking us with this lame… Read more »

Dark Hei

Pierre I would give the boys this summer transfer window to work their magic. Something tells me we are going to get a very late “Wenger” window if we win the Europa League. Along the lines of “incoming transfers happening after our CL qualifiers”. The management has changed but the guy who opens up the wallet remains the same. I admit that I was really skeptical about Sven, going back to his Dortmund contacts and getting the likes of Sokratis and Leno who did not had great seasons. Turns out his eye is truly diamond. Those 2 did really well… Read more »

Jamie

We’ve paid Ozil £15m so far this season for his 2 assists, but yeah, Suarez was the real waste of club funds. Idiotic.

Dissenter

Pierre
What did you think about the Park deal
Did you even mutter a word of disillusionment for those 3 years it took to let the poor guy leave?
I ask because this Suarez deal has so crushed your feeble hope in the process.
Poor little Pierre, someone light a candle to rekindle his hopes.

Pierre

Dissenter
“You never had faith in any process that does not involve Wenger”

I was more than happy with the summer signings actually, I thought we addressed weaknesses in the squad that Wenger had continually ignored.

Dissenter

Pierre
Since we are talking about ‘a faith in the process, are you happy with the Ozil’s two assists in the league this season
Dog you think the player bears ANY responsibility for his pathetic production?

CG

Dis

You just can’ t face reality:

We have a muppet as DoF in Raul
We have his puppet as Coach in Emery
And we have a comedian in Vinai as MD

You witnessed them all in action this week

Would it not be schadenfreude if an injured Kante and RLC Chelsea still beat Arsenal in Baku in The Loosers Cup this week?

They deserve their humiliation….

Revealing Interviews get done at the end of the season.( not a week before the final)
Page 1.

Tick Tock.

Dissenter

*Do you think the player bears ANY responsibility

Pierre

Saurez
“We’ve paid Ozil £15m so far this season for his 2 assists, but yeah, Suarez was the real waste of club funds. Idiotic.”

Actually,I never said the Saurez signing was a real waste of club funds ..though as you mentioned it , I would say Ozil’s 5 goals and 3 assists for 15 mil are better than Suarez 0 goals and 0 assists for 3/4/5/ million or whatever it cost.

Dark Hei

I propose you guys settle things in a tag team tables, ladders and chairs match.

I will do ringside colour commentary.

“And Pierre does an Arsene-Knows-Kick unto Dissenter! But he misses and flys out of the ring and unto the table!”

Dissenter

Dark hei
The Suarez deal didn’t go well
I’m just railing against the ridiculous notion that it has destroyed ‘hopes in the process’

I’m fine so long with Arsenal taking risks as we limit our exposure like was done for the Suarez deal.
Had we signed Suarez to a long term contract, then by all means go after Raul/Emery with a bazooka.

Pierre

Dissenter “Since we are talking about ‘a faith in the process, are you happy with the Ozil’s two assists in the league this season Do you think the player bears ANY responsibility for his pathetic production?” I see you and Jamie are trying to turn the Saurez debacle into it being an Ozil issue , similar to yesterday when I made a comment about Rabiot and posters like fred,Azed Marko etc brought Ozil into the equation ( as you are doing now) and then I get verbally abused for replying. in reply to your question , I believe that early… Read more »

Jamie

Pierre crying about Ozil being mentioned. Ironic.

siddharth14

Suarez was the stuff of nightmares. It is kind of hard accepting that you loaned a player and he never basically played. Any other winger player would have undoubtedly made a reasonable difference to our team in terms of the final standing. But we have to give credit to the Management for navigating it safely. Of course, we cannot pass judgement on our new recruitment setup based on suarez deal alone. The fact that we were looking for Perisic and Carrasco prior to Suarez gives me reason to be optimistic. Either of them would have benefited us immensely in the… Read more »

Gbat

Suarez was clearly way down the pecking order. But we wanted a body in. Mkhitaryan had been injured and Ozil was being Ozil. Welbeck injured. Iwobi inconsistent. Suarez isn’t a bad player but it didn’t work out. Move on.

Pierre

At the end of the day , all I am saying is that if a group of highly paid professionals have 4 /5 months to find a player or players to improve the squad and the best they can come up with is Suarez , then there must be something wrong with the process..

Didn’t Leicester sign Tielemans on loan in January….very successful signing unless I’m mistaken.

Pierre

Gbat
“We wanted a body in”
What’s wrong in using a couple of our academy players like Saka,Willock or Smith rowe who had already shown promise earlier in the season .

As CG would say ” if we wanted a body in , should have gone to Highgate cemetry”

Doom & gloom

Get in Umtiti,Thomas partey & wilf Zaha & we’re laughing…….

CG

The reason why the Suarez deal was such a shocker.

It was the first time Raul and Emery worked together in tandem.

(Think Spanish Laurel and Hardy sketch..)

As PedRo -has stated lucidly on here .
It was a major of reason- Dortmund Eye left us. ( truth hurts… )

He clearly doesn’t like blatant cronyism!
I don’t either!

With no sign of a Tech Dir on The Horizon.

Expect more grot and grime this window.- with these two in charge of recruitment.

(Suarez cost the club £5 million.)

Leedsgunner

Why is Mustafi of all people drawing attention to himself and his mistakes by “defending” them?

Unbelievable some of the quotes attributed to him in the past 24 hours.

“The coach prefers that we make mistakes but still play our game instead of just playing anything so he cannot identify us with the game we were supposed to be playing… For us defenders, if you make one mistake and they score, even if in five minutes you save something on the line, people still won’t talk about it. You get to live with it.“

Honestly? Is he so unaware?

Marko

We did try to get in Perisic or Carrassco. Certain types are trying really hard to make the Suarez signings seem far worse than it actually was. Which is funny considering some of the faff Arsene signed over the years. And it really can’t be compared to knowingly and wittingly signing up a player with a broken back. That’s some real cuntish shit right there

Jamie

“As PedRo -has stated lucidly on here .”

Pedro has also stated lucidly on here (a week ago, most recently) that Wenger and Jose are finished. Think Franco-Portuguese clown show.

Present him (and us) with your best counter argument and see how that goes. Then tell him how you would prefer we lose the EL final and see how that goes. Use your full intellectual capacity and really go for it with your justifications.

No amount of arse-sniffing and thanking him for this blog will change his mind. Believe that.

Words on a Blog

LeedsGunner,

Not the brightest spark, Mustafi.

Sometimes,the best thing to say is precisely nothing.

Clearly Mustafi hasn’t learnt that lesson.

Just Another Customer

this Mustafi cunt is just so infuriating this is what being a thick meathead of a footballer with massive inflated ego on massive paycheck done to him

add that to his lucky inclusion to the world cup winning squad and he thinks he’s the top dog regardless of costly mistakes time after time

CG

Jamie (Thanks for your post.) “”””Pedro has also stated lucidly on here (a week ago, most recently) that Wenger and Jose are finished. “”””” Ah, yes. Our PedRo is not always correct Indeed- I reprimanded severely -with his preposterous Napoli v Arsenal post match analysis and verdict. He also has this obsession with this strange ‘adult -movie’ sounding Ralph Ragnick ?! He ,(I think )is also in a denial about the far from remote possibility of Mr. Wenger( or even Jose) returning to the club in some capacity… But apart from that- his finger always seems to be on the… Read more »

Jamie

CG –

So you cherry-pick the things Pedro says with which you agree, and offer them up as evidence in support of your position. When Pedro says something with which you disagree, he’s wrong. Got it.

Can you please explain why Pedro, in all his lucidity, is so catastrophically wrong about Wenger and Jose, and about why losing a final on Wednesday (getting us back into the CL) is just what this club needs going forward. I’ll pull my fingers out of my ears for this one.

Thank you for your post.

Graham62

Quite ironic that yesterday marked the 30th anniversary of our “it’s up for grabs now” win at Anfield. A victory that put us on the world footballing map and initiated a period in our history where we could at last be considered genuine main stream contenders. Here we are three decades later looking at a similar scenario, except this time a victory in the second tier European competition will enable us to put our foot on the first rung of the progress ladder, which we had been ascending for over a decade, as well as put ourselves in the shop… Read more »

CG

Hello Jamie

Thanks for the swift response.

Well they are intrinsically linked.
We loose in The Loosers Cup in Baku this week.

And the odds of a. Wenger return or an elite manager in the shape of Jose arriving increase 10 fold.

As someone who wants an elite manager in charge of our great club( or ideally an Ex Arsenal stalwart)- I can’t countenance cheering them on in Baku.

Short Term Pain for Long Term Gain

Yours
CG

DivineSherlock

I think people moaning about the fact we signed Suarez are the same people who hailed Marouane Chamakh’s free signing.

Marko

I would recommend people stop replying to him it only makes things worse around here but I will say this to the idiotic oblivious illiterate but obvious cunt that to attract better managers much like better players it helps to be in the Champions League.

Also you mean loser not looser you dumb fuck

Graham62

Think of the great Hollywood disaster movies.

Titanic/ The Day After Tomorrow / The Poseidon Adventure/ Towering Inferno/ Dantes Peak/ Earthquake etc etc…..

That’s where we were at, at this time last year.

The rebuild will be slow, but we’ll get there.

Graham62

CG

I’m intrigued by this “elite manager” argument.

So many deluded fans.

Eddie Howe is an elite manager, imo.

Pierre

Marko
“Also you mean loser not looser you dumb fuck”

He’s winding you up , anyone with an ounce of intelligence would realise that ….nice one Charlie.

CG

Marko

Just maybe – not having too much money to spend in the forthcoming transfer window might actually be a blessing in disguise..

After all- We could actually promote some youth team starlets.

Or how about- Actually doing some progressive coaching on the players we have instead?

Spurs have not signed a player for 3 or 4 windows…

They are not doing too bad?

Have they got a big game this weekend?

Graham62

CG

Long term regression = where we are.

Ditto Marko.

Jamie

Dear CG – Thank you for your reply. I was particularly drawn to the following line: “And the odds of a Wenger return or an elite manager in the shape of Jose arriving […]” It’s nice to see you’re already relegating Wenger to non-elite status. He’s much less effective than simply non-elite, but I’ll take the small gain. You need to work on removing Jose from the elite bracket next. If you’re struggling with how to proceed, ask Pedro to reiterate what he wrote the other day regarding Jose. Further, I would be extremely grateful if you would learn the… Read more »