Arsenal looking to go unspectacular this summer (shocker)

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You know when people are like, ‘Christmas has started because the Pret Christmas Latte just dropped’ or something nauseatingly basic like that? The football equivalent is, ‘you know summer has started when Ornstein drops a bombshell that Arsenal will be shite in the transfer window.’

He’s only gone and done it AGAIN.

Top level: ‘It’s going to be a bit bland’

If we lose against Chelsea, £40m is our starting point.

We’re going project youth with a bit of experience (same as last summer).

We want a centre back, an Aaron replacement, and a winger type entity.

Additionally, if there is an extra special deal, we’ll chase a left back, right back and a striker.

ARSENAL WILL NOT BREACH FFP

Thank fuck for the last snippet, I know there’s been a lot of grumblings in the community of late about making sure we don’t EVER break a single rule, right now, I’m just letting off a massive sigh of THANK FUCK that we’re going to play it safe.

So what to make of this goss fest?

Well, don’t wet those panties you absolute man child. Also, why are you wearing panties? Grow up and step away from your mum’s lingerie drawer you 35-year-old freak. Get your 2001 Beano branded specials on and let’s dive into the mixer like peak Bobby P against Pompey.

If we are a Europa League club, blasting money away isn’t sensible. The MIGHTY Swiss Ramble has some analysis on how badly we’ve been rocked by the step-down.

We have a lot of expensive dross in the squad and I’d imagine Stan is asking Raul to realign the wage bill and move on the shite before we start going nuts again. £235m a year in wages is outrageous for the return.

Secondly, there’s some heated debate over whether the Ornstein budget figure is right. Some say we’re hiding our improved financial success, some say the number is what it is.

This is Gambon from the comments on where the new cash is coming from.

💰New club level seats £5m

💰Adidas £30m

💰Emirates 12m

💰Visit Rwanda £10m

💰New TV deal £10m

I’ve heard the lower number since November, and I’d say if we were looking at a £100m starting point, we’d have loosened the purse strings in January. Telling that we didn’t do that, isn’t it?

It’ll be interesting to see how hard we go at freeing up cash this summer. Mustafi and Xhaka should surely be heading for the exit door, there should be £70m incoming for those two alone. Auba is being linked to Madrid for £85m. Love him to bits, he’s helped shape our season, but he’s 29 so don’t be sentimental about this. The biggest travesty of the latter years of Arsene is his hoarding of players. We need to learn how to sell at peak, he’s hit peak, so we should absolutely take that cash if it’s on offer and invest like Liverpool did when they earned a big windfall. I’d take losing a 29-year-old versus having to lose a kid to find the next step.

Also, don’t moan at me and starting bleating on that he’s our best player… who did you vote for in the Arsenal Player of the Season Award?

What?

Speak up?

Thought so.

You hypocritical disgrace.

Drop transfer exits like I’ve laid out and you’re at £190m for spending power. You can buy many nice toys with cash like that. Then think of all the other players we could shift on… Elneny, Chambers, Mikhi, Jenks… there’s £30m in that mix.

Basically, don’t read into the £40m like that’s as far as the summer goes. It simply says to me that selling players is key to a hype summer execution.

Cut away all of the speculation, which could be spot on, or it could be really badly wrong (Ornstein had us with a £100m budget in January), the real story for me is that Edu only has an offer on the table, he hasn’t said yes.

Emery and Raul are at the wheel. We know they like sniffing around that bargain section. They’re the footballing equivalent of yellow sticker sandwich eaters. They don’t even like medium rare beef and Stilton… but if that sticker says 26p, it’s in the basket, no questions asked. Denis Suarez was a brown banana that was found under the fridge, the yellow sticker was just bants… but someone bought it, you know who? Yep. Yep.

So our summer is going to happen without the future architect of the club sailing the ship. Sven, love him or hate him, helped navigate us away from players like Banega, Nzonzi, Malcolm, and Denis Suarez. What is going to happen now? I like Cagigao, he sourced Santi, Bellerin and Cesc… but how much power will he be given?

Emery isn’t good at spending money if you look at some of the players he’s been responsible for in the past, he likes old and slow… or just utterly Suarezy. Raul wouldn’t be hiring a TD if he knew how to build a squad. Seems like a recipe for expensive mistakes. It looks like we’re going to head into next season without a vision or direction again. It’s spend and hope. I hate that. It is never going to work when those above us are driving towards an exciting vision mapped to a plan (Not Chelsea, lolololol).

Hopefully, I’m wrong. Nkunku looks a player when I’ve watched him. Djené has a lot of hype around him and £13.5m seems a bargain. However, there’s a bad stench of Rabiot-to-Arsenal everywhere you read, the guy has a piss poor attitude and didn’t like Emery last time around. Then I worry we’ll rekindle bland dreams of the past, Perisic or Carrasco are weighing heavily on my mind. Players past their prime, or with Ozil like attitudes to the game.

I don’t want to fuck about with talent that has temperament issues. Just give me young prime meat that wants to explode onto the scene. £75k a week or less. No mega contracts that make them fat and lazy. Let’s operate on a lean model and make sure hunger is central to their MO… just like it is at Spurs. I read a Poch article the other week that said he loved the players who want to leave because they care about success, be wary of those who thrive in comfort. Who is begging to leave Arsenal? Says a lot… right? A few too many just in it for the cashed paycheque.

Anyway, a real mixed back. Needless to say, summer will be busy. x

P.S. Souness and Keane FURIOUS that once again, they are proved wrong by a foreigner with better ideas of how the game should be played (tackles number). Arteta helping to architect one of the smartest off the ball sides the Premier League has ever seen, I’m welling up everyone, someone pass me a tissue, so emosh.

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  1. Champagne Charlie

    Receding

    Why don’t you fuck off with the condescending bollocks? It’s been a fine place to be the last few days but you’re doing your level best to shit talk and stir the pot. Give it a rest.

    Arsenal are elite, and more importantly capable of being such in the immediate future. AC Milan are not. I didn’t think it warranted a breakdown, but apparently so. Their prestige and history in the game wasn’t being questioned, their current status among elites was. Clear difference.

  2. Marko

    Long time since we were elite Charlie. The candidates we were talking to weren’t so obviously capable of bridging that gap between mediocre and elite. Anyway time and investment maybe we’ll get back to the promise land

  3. Dissenter

    CC
    It was strange seeing you argue yesterday that we are elite.
    AC Milan won’t be considered elite these days even though they have won;
    18 Serie A Championships. …
    7 Time Champions Cup/League Winner. …
    5 European Super Cups. …
    3 Intercontinental Cups. …
    1 Club World Cup. …
    2 Cup Winners Cup. …
    5 Coppa Italias. …
    5 Italian Super Cups

    They have not been relevant enough to still be considered elite.
    Same as Ajax until this recent resurgence.
    Just having a London postal doesn’t confer eliteness

    You’re the one lamenting about our lack of identity. Returning back to that “elite’ status has to be a goal that we are currently far away from.

  4. Marko

    no one will hire Emery to an elite job after Arsenal. He’s back to Sevilla or Villareal

    Sounds about our level

  5. Receding Hairline

    “Then finally we replaced him, but apparently with someone who can bring back the mediocrity we got so exasperated by.”

    No we are trying to get back to a place were we thought we could build from before Wenger proved incapable of building on it.

    No one called competing in the champions league mediocre, what was mediocre was getting thrashed 10-2 on aggregate, failing to build on being a champions league team by building a squad capable of challenging for a league title.

  6. Bamford10

    Alexander

    BTW, my quip a week back about “I guess you can think clearly” was nothing more than friendly banter. In no way was I trying to be a dick. My tone there was totally misconstrued, and I asked Benny to communicate this to you — as Pedro silenced me immediately after that remark — but I don’t think he ever got around to it.

    Regardless, despite our many battles re Kroenke and my strong disagreement with your POV on that question, I wasn’t trying to be a dick, even if it came off that way. Cheers.

  7. Dissenter

    Which is why it’s also disheartening to read people disrespect the EL
    That’s out current level- embrace it

    I would have preferred to have us drop out of the CL to win the EL those seasons where Bayern we delivering a whooping on us.
    Better an identity of winning the lesser cup that been sodomized publicly by the truly big clubs in a completion that was too good for us to be in.

  8. Receding Hairline

    “Arsenal are elite, and more importantly capable of being such in the immediate future.”

    Because we have money to spend? No we don’t

    Why are we capable of getting back to being elite in the immediate future and AC Milan aren’t?

    By the way get a hold of your temper, only person allowed to tell people to fcuk off here is Pedro not you. Here has also been pleasant today, debate the points you are making and stop appealing for sympathy

  9. Pedro

    RH, for fucks sake… AC Milan is in… MILAN. One of the most elite places to live on the planet.

    Arsenal is elite because of so many thing.

    Training facilities, stadium, wages, attendances, global reach, brand, platform… we will always be elite, the question is whether we’ll be relevant (same for United)

  10. Dissenter

    Bamford
    Have you been locked away at bloggers anonymous for a total rehab job.

    Geez, you’re apologizing too much to everyone.
    Show us some of that passionate fire, will you? 😀😀😀

  11. Marko

    Arsenal are not an elite club the sooner you realize this the better. It’ll help with those unrealistic expectations you have. 3 league titles in 20+ years none back to back since the 1930’s from what I can tell and a total irrelevance in European competition. We don’t really ever compete for big players in the transfer market.

  12. HighburyLegend

    Better lift a trophy than nothing. And an European trophy.
    And if it can put us into the next CL, even better.

  13. Receding Hairline

    “History shows Sevilla only winning one La Liga title back in 1945-46 season .
    Emery put Sevilla on the map!.”

    In a nutshell

    Sevilla’s three straight European cup wins made them a team everyone in football knows. But Emery did not advance them i am told because he did not win the league with them.

  14. Pedro

    Dissenter, that sort of thinking, though it clearly has no effect on anything, is the sort of thinking I’d hate to be around Arsenal.

    Fans have zero ambition is one thing, but my worry is we have a group of Marko’s and Dissenter’s inside the club just happy to roll with the notion that the best we can do is where we are.

    That’d be very sad… but shit, Dave Priestly still has a job managing our mental strength.

  15. Dissenter

    Milan ’s budget has been shrinking like a detumescent prick since they stopped being elite. They spent a modest sum to rebuild last season and still violated FFP.
    Guess which London club has its budget shrinking away too?

  16. Pedro

    Marko, stop bringing us down with your abusive partner like behaviour.

    We are elite… an unreal club, we just have people like Emery driving us towards irrelevance.

    Show some love.

  17. Marko

    Training facilities and stadium…ah sure if that’s the case there’s plenty of elite clubs out there. I thought you meant elite by footballing and successful/competing standards

  18. Receding Hairline

    Pedro Arsenal’s present standing in the football world has nothing to do with the fans but all to do with the way we have been run for a decade and more now. You preached that and i accepted it. You were one of those telling us we will be left behind and we have.

    Changing your tone now to make us believe we are one saucy appointment away from glory is a bit hard to take. I notice you haven’t told us where Arteta will get his 600m pounds from, that was the first ingredient needed to build a world class team over the course of his apprenticeship at City.

  19. Champagne Charlie

    “By the way get a hold of your temper, only person allowed to tell people to fcuk off here is Pedro not you. Here has also been pleasant today, debate the points you are making and stop appealing for sympathy“

    There’s no appeal for sympathy, there’s telling you to talk in a manner that isn’t full of snark and condescension. My temper is just fine thanks, it’s simply an aversion to the bs tone you’re offering when it’s not called for. Be a bit more introspective instead of dishing out the pep talks.

  20. Receding Hairline

    “We are elite… an unreal club, we just have people like Emery driving us towards irrelevance.”

    Nah he arrived here when we were irrelevant

    Now we face the prospect of our first European title in decades and our very first Super cup appearance

  21. Dissenter

    I’ve been massively impressed by Pochettino
    He is using his leverage to get Spuds to invest in players. He’s threatening to walk away and it’s spinning wheels at the club.

    Wenger had that same leverage soon after we moved to the Emirates.
    Instead of using it for the clubs benefit, he acquiesced with the BoD and took the political capital to make himself unsackable. He decided to pursue his own social experiments instead.

    That stadium isn’t going to limit Spuds spending the way we used the Emirates as an excuse.

  22. Champagne Charlie

    Can’t wait until we win the EL back to back to back. Going to be unreal times as an Arsenal fan, bet that’ll rattle the rest of the league.

    Fuck actually going for a domestic title, or mixing it at the latter stages of THE European table. Let’s collect all the wooden spoons and just agree amongst ourselves it’s fucking spectacular

  23. Champagne Charlie

    Talking of irrelevance and then hyping the possibility of a super cup appearance.

    The banter.

  24. Dissenter

    CC
    You still don’t Wenger is partly accountable for our lack of identity?
    Any manager who dismisses and excuses a 10-2 shellacking has to be a major culprit in an identity confusion crisis.

  25. Pedro

    RH,

    Being an elite football club has little to do with you position in the table… hence Klopp going to Liverpool

    You’re way off key…

    Again, Liverpool went from 10th to 2nd. Sauciest managerial apt in the league. Poch has overseen a stadium move and a CL final, a saucy apt.

    You can keep pretending the hire of a visionary talent won’t move us along, but all around us are examples of teams doing better on less.

  26. Receding Hairline

    When was the last time we were in a discussion for the domestic title??

    When was the last time we actually mixed it at the latter stages of the champions league??

    How long has Emery been here…12 months …

  27. Marko

    We are elite… an unreal club, we just have people like Emery driving us towards irrelevance.

    Pedro please don’t ban me for not agreeing with you that we’re an elite club and that’s it’s the current manager that’s holding us back from true elite-ness. It just sounds like total garbage to me. We have not been successful enough over a 15 year period to even be remotely considered elite. The whole thing is silly. Elite clubs don’t have a squad full of wank players and 40 million budgets. They compete for major honours they sign the best and most attractive players. They show ambition. When’s the last time we showed ambition? Answers on a postcard please

  28. Champagne Charlie

    Dissenter

    Wenger is accountable for plenty, a lack of identity isn’t one of those by a long way. Being incapable of realising it? Sure.

    Actually having one and wanting Arsenal to aspire to one? No, and that’s well documented.

  29. Champagne Charlie

    Receding

    What has the time Emery’s been here got to do with a domestic title and mixing it in the CL latter stages?

    Are you saying these will come under Emery with time?

  30. Marko

    there’s telling you to talk in a manner that isn’t full of snark and condescension…Can’t wait until we win the EL back to back to back. Going to be unreal times as an Arsenal fan, bet that’ll rattle the rest of the league. Fuck actually going for a domestic title, or mixing it at the latter stages of THE European table. Let’s collect all the wooden spoons and just agree amongst ourselves it’s fucking spectacular

    And everyone was getting along so well. Also I don’t think anyone is going overboard with the Europa League I think that’s just some spin being put on it. It’s a chance to get back into the Champions League and to have more money. I don’t think winning back to back Europa League’s is that much better than back to back FA Cups

  31. Receding Hairline

    No one ever has said an appointment doesn’t matter

    What you have done Pedro is try to tell the future and doubled down on it

    You have said the man will fail with better players

    You have said he will be bland and uninspiring

    You have said a lot of unkind things about the present coach of Arsenal FC which would have been understandable if you were championing someone unarguably better …..you aren’t.

    You are asking us to accept without question that our former uninspiring captain who showed zero leadership during his time here and became Mourinho like during his injury spell behind the scene would lead us back up the elite table. The only thing you have to back this up is that Pep asked him to come work for him after he retired.

    Surely you can see why that is a tough swallow

  32. Pedro

    Wenger always had a vision… Project Youth, British Core… and SPEND BADLY.

    Don’t miss him, but he can’t be knocked for giving it a go.

    Right, tapping out…

  33. Pedro

    RH, I’ve had Emery clocked since October.

    ‘Jugde him in May’ it’s May and I was correct.

    Pony hire. If he wins Europa, it’ll be us kicking the problem down the road for another season.

  34. Marko

    Marko, I’m banning you for lacking ambition.

    Pedro I’m going to start a blog and perma ban you for not having enough patience. I’ve got ambition it’s just my club that doesn’t. For Arsenal to show ambition you’re talking about putting in the time and investment into sorting out the mess. Once that’s done then you realize your ambition

  35. Words on a Blog

    Pedro,

    “We are elite….we are an unreal club, we just have people like Emery driving us towards irrelevance.”

    Unreal Trumpistani rhetoric that fails to engage with reality.

    If the only problem is Emery, and the only barrier to Arsenal regaining its rightful elite status is Emery, the solution is simple: get rid of Emery and hire Herr/Senor Special Sauce and all will be well.

    The level of self-delusion is unreal – this from someone who rightly and consistently accused Arsene and his apologists of self-delusion….

  36. Marko

    Being an elite football club has little to do with you position in the table… hence Klopp going to Liverpool

    Liverpool are an elite club. Far more league titles and actual worthy success in Europe. And most importantly in the last few years have acted like an elite club. They make a cup final they push on and spend 160 million to bridge that gap and to compete. That’s ambition that’s elite. We make a cup final and we’re absolutely shitting ourselves that we’ll only have 40 million this summer. That’s not elite

  37. Marko

    If the only problem is Emery, and the only barrier to Arsenal regaining its rightful elite status is Emery, the solution is simple: get rid of Emery and hire Herr/Senor Special Sauce and all will be well.

    If it’s that simple why not just do it.

  38. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    There is no point persisting with your opinion about Emery, because the reality is that he is not going to leave this summer.

    He has done better than a lot of people thought he would do and Arsenal have always given their managers an opportunity to prove themselves.

    On a quite different matter Arsenal are an ” elite club”, because of the history,
    support base but above all their revenue stream. Adidas are shelling out £60
    million sponsorship, which very few other clubs will achieve.

    Liverpool had decades of mismanagement and lack of success, but they have
    always been regarded as an elite club because of their history.

    By contrast no-one would consider Spurs an elite club despite building a 62,000 stadium. The day that Pochettino goes the club will go down the tubes
    and the same will probably happen to Chelsea if Abramovich pulls out.

  39. Valentin

    Elite club is an intangible thing.
    It is a combination of current status, historic relevance, league and club attractivity.
    ManCity has no historical relevance on the European stage, but because they have money and just titles in England today it is an elite club. Celtic has more history, more fans around the world won more titles in the last ten years but is not an Elite club. Nobody cares about the SPL, and their result in Europe are poor.

    Apart from Juventus, none of the Italian league clubs are viewed as Elite. They may have the history, but they are irrelevant. Irrelevant in their own league (Juventus will win at a canter) and irrelevant on the European stage. Most of them can’t even go past the group stage of the Champion’s league.

    Milan is an historical club, but none of the world big stars will demand to be transferred there.

  40. CG

    PedRo

    “””Arsenal looking to go unspectacular this summer (shocker)”””

    the only thing spectacular in and around AFC at the moment- is our PedRos’ spectacular AFC work ethic.****
    (many thanks,)

    We certainly – were not spectacular last summer too. Hence the appointment of
    Useless and unambitious Unai.

    The stats/data coming out of Man Citys season are stunning. ( as illustrated above) .

    Clearly Arteta is fundamental to the City success story.

    What a breath of fresh air – it would be to see this handsome , immaculate, ‘Pep – inspired’ cultured and multi lingual Spaniard wearing the Arsenal blazer next season in the dug out – rather than the grotesque ,illiterate and uncultured Emery.

    ****A reminder- anyone can recommend any person for an award.
    I suggest posters- go on the UK Gov Honours Page.
    Although an O.B.E would be probably too much for our author- a C.B.E to services to Arsenal blogging Worldwide would be a fair accolade.
    it easy- and it does not take too long.

  41. HighburyLegend

    “‘Jugde him in May’ it’s May and I was correct.”
    No you weren’t”

    lol so true.

  42. CG

    PedRo

    “”” I’ve had Emery clocked since October.”””

    I had him sussed in July.

    I have a case of ” Dom Pérignon 2009 already in the cellar – when he gets his inevitable marching orders. Hopefully he will be on his Bike in Baku!
    Rather fitting.

    We are Arsenal- we do not do Unai Emery!

  43. Receding Hairline

    “I think you can safely say the Sheiks are responsibke for Man City’s success not Guardiola.”

    He wouldn’t even be there without them

    Nor will he be at Arsenal either

  44. Moe

    C’mon Pedro, you seriously consider this Wenger disaster “elite”. Arsenal ain’t been elite in close to a decade. No place in elite teams for dross like Djourou, Almunia, Denilson, Silvestre, Chamakh, Sanogo, Park, Asano, and the list goes on.

    Am friends with “elite”, and he’s not happy with you. Get in ur knees and ask for forgiveness.

  45. OleGunner

    Pedro saying Wenger ”gave it a go” during final years
    Hilarious revisionism now I’m howling lololol

  46. Leftsidesanch

    Pedro, remember you posted a couple of weeks ago stating that you were lambasted by your friend for being harsh on Unai and you would be more ‘nice’, lol – that lasted for what…all of two posts?

    In all seriousness though, Emery will at least see out this year and if there is no tangible improvement he will be shown the door. I hope the discourse this year isn’t centred on how much we could do with Arteta again as the last season was.

  47. Pierre

    RH
    ““Super Cup was a special comment.”yep it’s a game i have always enjoyed watching A better curtain raiser than the charity shield by some distance”

    The charity shield /community shield is in fact the “super cup” so I’m not sure how you can say the super cup is a ” better curtain raiser” than the charity shield….it’s the same thing …doh!

    Arsenal have, in fact , recently won the super cup on 3 occasions to add to the FA cup victories .

  48. Marko

    Classy from the Man City players and staff singing that song about the Liverpool fan dying at last seasons champions league final. Their excuse is they weren’t singing about the death but about the actual final defeat is absolute bullshit. Just real quality stuff there fellas

  49. Marko

    Pierre the two best teams in Europe is a better game than the two best teams in England. Charity shield isn’t a real trophy by the way

  50. Receding Hairline

    Pierre the community shield has never been referred to as a super cup

    Probably because it is a shield not a cup

    I know you believe the FA Cup is the pinnacle of football so i will just let you be

  51. Redtruth

    “Arsenal have, in fact , recently won the super cup on 3 occasions to add to the FA cup victories .”

    I’m still puzzled why Arsenal sacked Wenger after all those recent cup successes…..enlighten me Pierre?

  52. Pierre

    I would say that in England, more football fans watch the English version of the super cup than the European version of the super cup, unless of course their own team is competing in the European version..

  53. azed

    “Again, Liverpool went from 10th to 2nd. Sauciest managerial apt in the league. Poch has overseen a stadium move and a CL final, a saucy apt.”

    There’a an 8th and a couple 4th’s in there Pedro.

  54. Dissenter

    Marko
    “Classy from the Man City players and staff singing that song about the Liverpool fan dying at last seasons champions league final. Their excuse is they weren’t singing about the death but about the actual final defeat is absolute bullshit. Just real quality stuff there fellas”

    They had been gorging on expensive champagne provided by premier league sponsors and just ecstatic from winning the closest league title race ever.
    C’mon…give them a break and didn’t join the Liverpool pity party.

  55. Nelson

    If “elite” means Arsenal challenging for PL and CL honor, then I kind of agree with Pedro. There are only two solutions:
    – replace Kroenke with another suger daddy similar to MC or PSG
    – or rebuild the team completely like Ajex.

    Raul and Emery will turn us into Sevilla type status in the EPL and we may win an European cup from time to time. Each Summer, they’ll put some papers over the cracks.

  56. Dissenter

    “I would say that in England, more football fans watch the English version of the super cup than the European version of the super cup, unless of course their own team is competing in the European version..”

    Because English clubs haven’t been that successful in Europe
    Besides, no one else watches the charity shield either, just fans of the two clubs

  57. Pierre

    Marko
    “Pierre the two best teams in Europe is a better game than the two best teams in England. Charity shield isn’t a real trophy by the way”

    The 2 ( maybe 3) best teams in europe ARE the best teams in England. As I told you back in January , we(england) would dominate Europe and We are.

  58. Marko

    I would say that in England, more football fans watch the English version of the super cup than the European version of the super cup

    They also watch a lot of EastEnders and it doesn’t make it any less shit and irrelevant

  59. Dissenter

    There’s a little prize money for the European Super cup, 3.5 million euros for the winner and 2.5 million for the loser

  60. Dissenter

    The English dominance isn’t going to last long
    The continental European club powers are already realigning their teams.
    Real, Barca and Juventus will be stronger
    I don’t consider PSG anything other than Vaentin’s ITK fetish. They are not a serious club.

  61. Marko

    They had been gorging on expensive champagne provided by premier league sponsors and just ecstatic from winning the closest league title race ever.
    C’mon…give them a break and didn’t join the Liverpool pity party.

    Respectfully dissenter but are you an idiot? How’s that an excuse? Literally could have sang any number of other songs but chose that one. Some excuse that. Champagne and celebrating I suppose if they sang about the holocaust or some racist shit that excuse would be okay by you.

  62. Dissenter

    Marko
    So you’re equating what they sang about Salah to racist chants or the holocaust?

    I think you need to moderate your outrage because it doesn’t even come close.
    This story came out and is not generating more than a corner space in any serious newspaper.

    It was clear those players were inebriated. They even mistook Kolo Toure for an active city player even though he was dressed in a suit and carrying a sky sport mic.
    To “kill” has more than one meaning. I killed my last re-certification exams but it’s not buried 6 feet under. Trump killed my enthusiasm in 2016 but I am stil alive.
    Just calm down FFS.

  63. Bob N16

    Marko, you appear to be weighed down by our current situation. You’re ‘depressed’ state doesn’t seem to allow you to consider a more positive perspective.

    When Liverpool were in 10th they decided to back Klopp to turn things around. Once he’d gained the full confidence of the owners he was backed significantly. Now you can see the value of a project.

    For me, Emery is not going to take us to the promised land. He was available and was willing to take the job with limited financial backing, knowing that the squad was limited and well behind a few other clubs.

    The next stage(appointment) will be much more inspiring/exciting. A manager who doesn’t appear to have the same ceiling as Emery.

    Don’t think you have to play the grim reality card incessantly, Marko. Supporting a football team is surely about dreaming big.

  64. Batistuta

    An elite club who’s transfer budget is 40 million……..Newly promoted teams spend much more than that by the way……Arsenal fans are the masters of grand delusion it’s not even funny…..Screaming at Elite club who haven’t won a league title in eons and haven’t won a European trophy or it’s equivalent…., Give it a rest guys, we’re now a bug standard Europa league team

  65. Batistuta

    Don’t think you have to play the grim reality card incessantly, Marko. Supporting a football team is surely about dreaming big.

    Bob

    There’s dreaming and there’s delusions of grandeur, what most Arsenal fans are stuck in is the latter

  66. Batistuta

    Pedro

    Arsenal are not elite, we haven’t won our own league or come close in more than a decade

  67. Dissenter

    I mean how distasteful is to to suggest that the city players were singing about Sean Cox or to Hillsborough.
    Liverpool know how to generate a pity party when they have done some of the most vile things in world football
    The Heysel stadium disaster is marked in infamy. They started a process that killed innocents and deprived other English clubs an opportunity to compete in Europe.

  68. Pedro

    … and there’s lowering the bar to justify mediocrity.

    The ‘it’s not possible’ arguments have been festering since the days of Wenger.

    I’ve always argued it is if you’re smart about who you hire… Liverpool, Dortmund, Spurs and Ajax are all showing the different ways you can get back into top level competing.

  69. gambon

    So….

    Atletico sell Griezmann to Barca for £105m……

    Lacazette was supposed to go to Atletico in summer 2017 until their transfer ban…

    Does anyone else see a potential £80m sale?

  70. Batistuta

    I mean we’ve just had our first 30 goal striker since 2012 and we’re in 2019, means we’ve not has any striker of any sort in 7 years

  71. Marc

    Someone says something distasteful about the Scousers and everyone’s supposed to be up in arms. Scousers push locals minding their own business into a fountain in Barcelona and it’s ignored.

    Can’t believe I’ve actually got to support them in the CL final. I wonder how many arrests there’ll be?

  72. azed

    “So….Atletico sell Griezmann to Barca for £105m……Lacazette was supposed to go to Atletico in summer 2017 until their transfer ban…

    Does anyone else see a potential £80m sale?”

    Yep…

    We can get a back up striker and Pepe with that 80M.

  73. Batistuta

    I’ve always argued it is if you’re smart about who you hire… Liverpool, Dortmund, Spurs and Ajax are all showing the different ways you can get back into top level competing.

    Pedro

    We hired a has been from Barca as the CEO who oversaw us using a whole month to pursue a crooked player, some smart hire that was

  74. salpardisenyc

    Lacazette for £80m is good business, keeps us with an elite goal scorer in PEA playing thru the middle.

    With a nice number to add into the reported pot.

  75. Pedro

    Winning the league is just one part of elite.

    Elite is prestige.

    Look at our revenues, look at the size of our fanbase, look at the quality of everything we offer as a brand and club… we are elite.

    Just need better leadership to unlock the potential.

  76. Dissenter

    Pedro
    Actually we are neither rich nor elite

    We ought to be concerned about the gap between us and spurs being crystallized.
    They are going to monetize their new stadium and this excellent CL because of the opportunities it gives them for branding. It’s like their history never happened.
    They have a manager who is using his leverage to demand footballing investments by publicly threatening to walk away. That’s one thing the Monsieur never did.

    We need to be very afraid and this has nothing to do with the manager but the dearth of any discernible structure or plan.

  77. Batistuta

    I mean we’re the only team who’s owner hasn’t put a penny in the club since he took over because he obviously doesn’t care but yea we’re an elite club

  78. Pedro

    Bati, you know my concerns with Raul… but Edu could be a smart move. Shifting gears to elite youth is smart. We haven’t seen a Raul full year yet. Let’s see what he does. Could be epic. Could be Banega on toast. We’ll see.

  79. gambon

    Azed

    I would say we could sign Zaha & Pepe for about £100m

    Then play 4-3-3, and both Zaha and Pepe can deputise at CF when Auba is ijnured or rested

  80. Dissenter

    Gambon wants to incur TR7’s wrath with this Laca transfer talk.

    Laca isn’t going to be here when pore-season starts
    We need to cash in while the iron is hot.

  81. Batistuta

    Look at our revenues, look at the size of our fanbase, look at the quality of everything we offer as a brand and club… we are elite.

    Pedro

    Look at the state of our squad, out transfer budget and tell me what’s elite about any of that

  82. Marc

    Pedro

    Not sure you can say we are Elite. A sleeping Elite level club or one with Elite potential maybe but we’ll get to the promised land. It just won’t be in 9 months.

  83. Dissenter

    Winning the EL will give us a very brief reprieve to put some gloss on and attract some good players.

    I wonder why we aren’t going after Ismaila Sarr. from Rennes?
    That’s the type of player we need- the young ones just ready to make that kick unto the next level

  84. Batistuta

    Bati, you know my concerns with Raul… but Edu could be a smart move. Shifting gears to elite youth is smart. We haven’t seen a Raul full year yet. Let’s see what he does. Could be epic. Could be Banega on toast. We’ll see.

    Pedro

    Wouldn’t hold my breath if i were you, he’s a disaster hire and it’s only going to get worse

  85. Samesong

    We should be going all out to sign Zaha. London lad
    Arsenal will not be too much of a step up for him.
    He can own his postion at Arsenal.

  86. Bob N16

    Bati, not delusions of grandeur but realistic ambition. This ‘we’re a Europa League club now’ narrative is a bit ‘cry baby’.

    We were in the CL for best part of 20 years and we’ve been in the EL for 2. Get a grip doomsayers!

    Our 100 year anniversary this year for being in the top division. Third most League titles, most FA cup wins. Ok, so things aren’t going well but we finished 5th and have got to the EL final. If this is as shit as it gets before we turn a corner then to outsiders we would deserve to be considered as spoilt brats.

  87. Dissenter

    How come the ex-Barca executives at city [Soriano and Txiki Begiristain] get so much plaudits from people but all Raul Sanllehi gets from many here is condescension?.
    Raul is all we have now. Lets give him his first window and then assess him.

  88. useroz

    Buy low sell high always welcome, and way to go. 80% of the squad, Auba and Laca included,ccan go. That alone could raise 200m+, before the 40m kicks in. And re-balance the silly wage level.

    Also, we need to price our English dross much better. They shouldn’t be cheap and ain’t any worse than some that gone for 15 – 30m, tbh.

    In the past, Wenger (+ the snake) seem to be like giving away players to ‘help’ them move eg Giroud, Sczc, Gnabry.,Campbell.

    We ain’t fucking charity. Other than Ox, we low balled ourselves big time.

  89. azed

    Gambon

    100M for Zaha and Pepe is good but I don’t think we have the midfield for 4-3-3. Aside from Torriera, we would 2 other midfielders(Guendozi should not be a starter.

  90. Dissenter

    I think Zaha is an excellent target but for the sheer amount of money it will take to make the deal possible.
    I just don’t think we can afford him.
    I don’t think any of the top-6 teams will seek his transfer as it stands. Palace will have to come done to the 35-45 million transfer fee range.

  91. Batistuta

    We were in the CL for best part of 20 years and we’ve been in the EL for 2. Get a grip doomsayers!

    Bob

    Funny, we were in the CL for how many gazillion years and only got to one final, let’s not forget the numerous thrashings and embarrassments…..Please spare me the whole super fan angle, of what use exactly has being in the champions league done us? 2 years in the EL and a semi and a finals tell us that maybe we are finally at our level Bob……

    Of course i want my club to dine at the top of football but we have been so very far from that in a while, it’s called being realistic

  92. jwl

    Arsenal are elite club in England but they are nowhere when it comes to Europe, gunners are top quality domestically but they have never travel well outside of England.

    Arsenal should be bigger club than it is, it is largest club in richest biggest European city, has been mismanaged by toffs for decades.

  93. gambon

    We cant sell both of our strikers. Would be ridiculous.

    Look how much trouble our rivals have had finding a quality striker.

    UTD spent £75m on Lukaku, and the fans hate him.

    Chelsea spent £70m on Morata, who has now been shipped off to make way for Higuain, who eats too many Pukka Pies.

    Auba won the GB, and also led the PL in xG over the course of the season.

    He’s elite. The question is do we need 2 top strikers more than we need a top team?

    Its like having 2 Porsches, but no garage to keep them in because you live in a fucking tent.

    We may have to sell a Porsche in order to buy a house.

  94. salpardisenyc

    Too much cash in the Premiere league, making players like Zaha unattainable as clubs don’t have to sell.

  95. Dissenter

    Sal
    “Too much cash in the Premiere league, making players like Zaha unattainable as clubs don’t have to sell.”

    True but the player wants to leave to test himself. I suspect that he signed his contract extensions and had certain provisions put in to facilitate his release when push came to shove.

  96. Words on a Blog

    As Pedro used to say Arsenal are an example of what happens when the elite owners of an elite institution can’t be bothered: elite mediocrity.

  97. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Good post Pedro

    Until the last bit…

    Did you not claim at the end of last season that we need to get behind the new manager ?
    All managers make ricketts in signings
    Wenger won the league in that every year…

    But still banging the arteta drum now a year on …

    Tells what spoilt life you have lead .

  98. Dissenter

    There’s talk in the Italian tabloids that Chelsea will sack Sarri regardless of the outcome of the Europa league final.
    Seems he’s already lined up to replace Gattuso at Milan.

  99. MidwestGun

    Lol some of you…. We are an elite Club… We just don’t have enough elite players (2 or 3 maybe) or I would argue no elite manager. You all conveniently forget that City, Chelsea and Man U. are the reason for us not winning as many domestic League titles. Wenger was unable to keep up with them in his final 10 years… But if Arsenal were in any other League even with the players we have now.. we would be competing for a title. Why do you think we are in EL final? because we beat the best of the rest. We have the 9th biggest revenue stream in the world.. that alone makes you elite. Because revenue takes into account, fan base, advertising, prize money, stadium revenue. Look at any list … ever of anything footballwise and I bet Arsenal are in the top 10.

    The disconnect between our elite status as a Club and our on pitch performance is exactly the problem. How we get the two back together is the issue. I do not except that we are a EL club now…. we are not Valencia or Leipzeg or Lyon or Atalanta … get a grip people. We can do better.

  100. Leftsidesanch

    I’d be surprised if Pepe and Zaha go for £100m. I can see Lille wanting £70m for Pepe and Crystal Palace demanding not far off for Zaha (probably in the £50-60m range).

  101. Dissenter

    Midwest
    Okay we are elite…but our summer transfer budget is allegedly just enough to buy Pogba’s right leg. [If you believe United’s 150 million valuation]

  102. Dissenter

    Leftside
    The talk is that we are set to declare big losses this year which makes sense because we have been paying out crazy wages.
    That 40 million may be the baseline without money from player sales.

  103. salpardisenyc

    Dissenter

    “Would you sell Laca and use the proceeds to buy Zaha plus central midfielder?”

    Absolutely, I love Zaha would immediately slot onto either flank, ideally the left with qualities we’ve lacked. One of best dribblers in league used to create separation, operates in the tightest of spaces. Can’t see a single defender handling him which opens space for the likes of PEA to utilize.

    Spend rest where needed, CB, CM, LB.

    Imagine a front three of Zaha, PEA, Pepe, although doesn’t seem very Emery more Klopp.

    Summer going to be interesting with Laca surely being tapped up, Madrid looking at PEA, Ozil situation, Ramsay replacement, the need to offload Xhaka, Mustafi, our full back situation.

    Do we have the infrastructure to deal with all that?

  104. HighburyLegend

    “our summer transfer budget is allegedly just enough to buy Pogba’s right leg. ”

    That’s why we are Elite.
    If I understand Midwest correctly…

  105. Bob N16

    HL, we attract players with a vision, a decent wage, an inspiring manager(!)and a city that is great to live in if you have money. Arsenal is still a massive club, Adidas, for example, wouldn’t be pissing away as much as they are on an ‘also ran’. We can’t afford too many years of relative mediocrity but we are still an attractive club.

  106. mysticleaves

    For 80m I would drive Laca to Barca. Pepe won’t cost 70m. More like 50 tops.

    We could go a different route always and get Fekir (I don’t care what Valentin thinks) and Brandt. Further back, bring in Rabiot on a free.

    All this achieved without even touching the lie lie 40m

  107. Dissenter

    Honestly I would use next summer’s transfer budget to get Zaha.
    The lad wants to prove himself at the top level.

  108. azed

    Am I the only one here who doesn’t want Rabiot here?

    The season is almost practically over and no one has signed him up yet on a free…..

  109. DaleDaGooner

    When you’re making the top 15-20 sports club in the world consistently, YOU’RE FCKIN ELITE!

    Man U being where they are now doesn’t stop them from being elite…Liverpool despite not winning the Premier league ever, are still fcking elite…..I agree with Pedro that until we appoint a special manager OR appoint a great architect to bring in the right players on our operating budgets, we will be EL level, and that’s not a bad thing, Atletico is elite, Chelsea is considered Elite, Leicester has one won Premier League title as is Blackburn, compared to Liverpool, …my point is, Wenger was allowed to stay for too long with no foresight of bringing in better oversight or structure above him or outright replacing him when Klopp and Pep became available. Milan is still Elite…

    If the Super League kicks off today, who would make up the founding clubs? I can bet Milan and Arsenal would be among.

  110. Chris

    I would hope the club tries to bring in 2 or 3 elite (sorry) players to form a more formidable spine in the team. New CB, B2B and goal getting wide player. Offload the deadwood and supplement squad with the best academy players.

    Rather that than blow the budget on average mess.

  111. Dissenter

    azed
    I think Rabiot’s new employers will be the most desperate club around which is United.
    They will pay him a massive wage and use him to replace Pogba.

  112. DaleDaGooner

    I think most fans are now so deluded with the amount being spent to be “Elite” PSG, Man City, Chelsea, Chinese Super League are all elite by their accounts….

  113. KAY Boss

    So some are happy if we sell Lacazette and buy say Zaha or Pepe.
    Imagine we sell and have only Auba as our top striker, who deputise when he’s injured or has a bad day at the office.
    I can’t imagine us sell g Laca whiles Iwobi will still be around or Jenks, or Elneny.
    My take: keep both. Athletico are after Cavani.

  114. MidwestGun

    Basically what Bob said.

    You attract better players by building a brand of football that players want to play for and giving them a platform to showcase themselves.. to advertisers and fans basically the CL. It helps to be in London yes…. it is still the 3rd biggest city in Europe .. I believe. And yes we pay good wages.. look at Ozil.. we just pay good wages to the wrong players.

    Also regarding transfer budget.. we will see what it ends up being I never believe media warchest articles. If we end up spending fuck all that’s on the owner and Raul not because we aren’t an elite Club. . you could say we don’t exactly have an elite owner either as he is overly adverse to taking risks, imo. But that is his prerogative. I don’t pretend to understand what Josh and Stan are doing at times.

  115. salpardisenyc

    Dissenter

    There is that, if the clubs reported contracts to put Laca and PEA into another deal are true and they both stay weathering the summer.

    Getting Zaha for left would be fantastic, the need to generate money elsewhere would be necessary, without selling our “Coutinho” to generate funds.

  116. mysticleaves

    Azed, you might not. Funny enough I don’t want Zaha but I can’t say it but cos he’s legroves flavor of the month.

    Much rather Pepe or Fekir as inside forwards.

  117. DaleDaGooner

    If we are an Elite club we go and buy Zaha.

    Because he was so Elite at Man U….. he would be serviceable, but he won’t improve us significantly…….I’d rather search for the next gem for less than the reported 80m Crystal Palace wants. If they are willing to take 50m, I’d consider …

  118. mysticleaves

    kayboss, pepe can readily deputise till auba comes back. He’s so cool when he finishes that I wonder if he’s a winger or a finisher.