The folk bizarrely pushing the idea that coaching isn’t an effective tool for progress had to cancel all future opinions going live in public.
Liverpool crushed the MIGHTY Barcelona in a 4-0 drubbing for the ages.
Yes, Shaqiri, Wijnaldum, Origi, and Henderson all featured and starred in an absolute masterclass at Anfield, showing that a strong vision, a defined footballing philosophy, and good old fashioned coaching can trump individual talent… even when that talent is Lionel Messi.
As Tr7 said perfectly the comments, ‘It was heavy metal football that rattled Barca, not the quality of players Liverpool has.’ They still delivered without their best players. An incredible achievement, even if it does make me pig sick… our biggest mistake of the last ten years was passing on Klopp and Pep.
MORE MONEY
MORE PLAYERS
MORE MONEY
MORE PLAYERS
… really doesn’t rub when you see Jordan Henderson as a regular in their side. Origi proving pivotal at the highest level. Low budget signings like Robertson game changing all season. Trent Arnold breaking through from the youth team and playing like a superstar. They lost Salah and still manage to compete. Arsenal lose Ramsey and the whole thing falls apart. Unai picked up a squad in better shape than Klopp, spent more money in his first transfer window than the German did in 2 years and managed to make things worse.
There’s no real way to compare the two managers. As I pointed out yesterday, Klopp finished a lowly 8th in his first season, but he also picked up a dreck squad that was deflated and 10th. He had no preseason to work with, and in his final 13 games, his team scored 31 goals. His coaching had him finish stronger than he started, you could see what he was doing on the pitch, not in hopeful translated text on Marca.
Their stadium was absolutely rocking. You know why? Because the football courses through the veins. It’s electric. The energy on the pitch translates to the stands. If you think that has been standard at Liverpool over the last ten years, you have never met a season ticket holder there.
I am jealous of what they have, Klopp has been a sensation. He was my original managerial crush way back when, I had my doubts about his rebirth at Liverpool, oh how wrong I was. Elite of the elite. Can you believe we let him sit without a job while Wenger paraded deal after new deal?
Just read these words Klopp had after the game.
“It was overwhelming … I actually … I said to the boys before the game that it’s impossible, but because it’s you we have a chance. I have watched in my life so many football games, but to play the best team in the world … look, winning is already difficult, but to win with a clean sheet … It’s 10.10pm and the children are probably in bed so I’m sorry about the language but can I say these boys are fucking talented giants. It’s all about the players.”
Employing an inspiring coach that knows how to develop players is so important. If you don’t have that, why persist? Charisma, passion, energy… that’s what makes a club rock. But again, I can’t hammer home how utterly bat shit it is to excuse this season because our players aren’t coachable. Think about that statement and how weak it is.
Pep Guardiola, the chequebook manager everyone slates, took a journeyman central midfielder called Fabian Delph and turned him into a regular left-back in a team that will go down as one of the all times greats in Premier League history. World class managers make average players great. They make collections of them work as a unit. They organise, inspire and equip them with the tools they need to succeed.
How about we talk about a really shite team, like, say, Southampton? They were in a mess before they played us at Christmas. Ralph Hassenhutl, an interest of Le Grove a few years ago came in and reshaped them. Ryan Bertrand had this to say on what he’s done.
“The manager has came in and has given us an identity,”
“He has given us a clear style of play and leaves no stone unturned.
“It is a real pleasure to go on the field like that and not have people questioning each other.”
“If you asked 100 people what Southampton’s style of play was, you would get similar answers,” he added.
“It would be that we are a high pressing team, very competitive and play good football.
“That may have been adrift before.”
If you asked 100 people about Arsenal’s identity, what would you get?
“Catch Kola on the overlap’
We are still there a year on.
Better players give you better results, no doubt, but whether it’s the highest level or the lowest, the clearer the vision, the better the outcome. Look at Mourinho over the years, his Champions League win with Inter Milan was genius. That squad was a ragtag bunch of pros that he turned into a formidable unit. Look at how Jardim toppled the mighty PSG. Look at what Ajax are doing, win or lose tonight.
Arsenal has conceded 52 goals so far this season. Some flag that Holding and Bellerin would have made things better… reality is, we were on for conceding 50+ goals with them in the side. Poor organisation is always going to leave you exposed regardless of who is playing. The game is far too competitive now to be able to get away with good players simply bailing you out. Everyone is of a high technical standard now, you will be destroyed if you aren’t organised and that’s exactly what’s been going on.
Sam Allardyce has always known this. He goes into clubs on fire, organises them and makes them competitive. He takes shite defences, with shite defenders and he makes them better. That’s good coaching even if the football causes an eye infection.
Anyway, time to move on. I think we all know where I stand on our bland on toast manager.
Tonight, we are ALL Ajax fans. Finally, something we can agree on.
However, I do fear that Spurs power will be a big problem for them and we’ll have to suffer a Champions League final where we want neither side to win.
I’m just going to be thinking about Vermaelen, Bergkamp, Kanu and Overmars all day today… then I’m going to pray to the footballing gods.
Spurs making a final would be too much.
If they lose this evening… that’ll be the 20th game of the season. They’ll have limped into top 4. They won’t have won a trophy, AGAIN.
How funny would that be?
Very.
See you in the comments. x
That comment was addressed to Marc
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1126045798087778305?s=21
Where clubs bought their players
If you cant improve a team with £65m and 1 year, can you improve a team with £130m and 2 years, or £300m and 3 years?Im not sure you can.
Of course you fucking can my god. Mate if we spend 300 million in the next 3 years we’ll be flying. Irrespective of who the manager is. I say this because I assume that Edu and others won’t be abject failures.
Marko, what position did Arsene play? At what level? Would it suggest he could ever know about attack?
What about Jose? Did his playing career influence his managerial one?
Shoddy logic.
Marko
“That’s funny considering Ozil is here nearly 6 years and still does interviews in German.”
you need to move away from your Ozil obsession….
Champagne CharlieMay 8, 2019 16:07:57 Benny Keep reasserting that hot take, I’m sure there’s no loads that agree with your managerial summary there. Give Burnley Pep, and City Dyche and no doubt Burnley finish above City. I’ve no argument against that Benny. As you say, it’s “fact”. >>>>>> But that’s what you’re saying CC and that’s what you’ve been saying, that we have a top 4 side and it’s because of Emery we’re underachieving. You say Benitez is a better manager than Emery but where are Newcastle in the league? We’ve also beaten Newcastle home and away this season yet… Read more »
So winning isn’t important, increased points tally isn’t improvement what we need is improvement, constant improvement.
Can’t make my mind up if I’d want someone setting me KPI’s like that. On one hand it’s intangible on the other you can’t prove you’ve achieved anything.
Spend money and it just works?
How did that work for Everton?
“Emery didn’t get near the top two in Spain in all his seasons there, took Simeone a season to better the best points gap Emery ever managed there, then he won the league the season after.” Did Valencia under Emery have the same caliber of players as Athletico?? Valencia sold players every year as they were in deep financial mess when Emery was there, he keeping them in the top three places was seen as a minor miracle, i would say context is needed here. And i do not know what exactly you think is going on at Arsenal but… Read more »
Marko
So if £300m will see us “flying” – why hasnt £65m seen is starting to take off?
It seems Emerys fans are more than happy to keep deferring improvement into the future.
Pedro’s using liverpool’s exploit for argumenting his own point of view….
What a surprise!! (lol)
“Mate if we spend 300 million in the next 3 years we’ll be flying. Irrespective of who the manager is“
Yea man, irrespective. Just ask United
Pedro
I think you meant Leeds!
“It seems Emerys fans are more than happy to keep deferring improvement into the future.”
Because that’s how improvements tend to happen, sometimes you change one thing and everything falls into place.
You are the one who keeps saying we need to get rid of players who playing them means we change formations endlessly to accommodate their weakness, you are the same poster saying the players do not matter, sometimes i feel i am in an ogogoro joint when i post here
Marc
The points tally is ireelevant if it isnt backed up by performance.
Have you not been watching Arsenal and Man Utd over the last few weeks?
Do you even watch football?
We are on 67 points due to the best conversion rate in PL history.
In other words, our best performer this year has been luck.
Shoddy logic.
Ah nice try Pedro. There’s managerial experience and evidence with regards to Jose and Arsene that shows whether or not they were influential defensively or attacking wise or anything really. When people say Mikel Arteta is responsible for the defensive performances at Man City there’s nothing no evidence nothing to show for it. Literally the only thing that you can do is look at him as a player and try to make sense of it. Hey if someone wants to provide evidence of the influence of Mikel Arteta then by all means do it
“bennyThe last few weeks you seem to be arguing that you dont like Emery, but also hate everyone that doesnt like Emery.”
I’ve noticed joe going down the same road …they must be a little confused bless em.
“In other words, our best performer this year has been luck.”
Thought it had something to do with having the wonderful Auba for one full season (another 8 yard sitter missed on Sunday), so everything good we achieved was down to luck and everything bad down to the manager
Top logic
“Marko, what position did Arsene play? At what level? Would it suggest he could ever know about attack?”
Since when did a manager’s position as a player have anything to do with his coaching ability ? For example, George Graham – the most defensively minded coach in Arsneal’s history was a gifted, graceful attacking midfielder-striker.
The logic defies belief.
So if £300m will see us “flying” – why hasnt £65m seen is starting to take off?It seems Emerys fans are more than happy to keep deferring improvement into the future.
Because it’s not just investment it’s investment and time. Common sense would say time and investment will improve us. Not little investment and no time. Again I’d be saying the same thing whoever the manager was.
“Mate if we spend 300 million in the next 3 years we’ll be flying. Irrespective of who the manager is. I say this because I assume that Edu and others won’t be abject failures.”
This ones going into the Le Grove treasure trove alongside a few other gems.
Hodgson, Brenda, Nuno, Silva, Hughton, Hasenhuttl have all done better than Rafa vs. Emery this year
gambon
You’re so caught up in “Emery’s not good enough” that you can’t see anything else.
Quite simply with you it’s everyone else good – Arsenal bad.
If the Spud’s or Liverpool had our conversation rate you’d be signing about it from the roof tops.
Everyone here is busying themselves comparing Klopp to Emery.
How about comparing Fenway to KSE?
Nice quote from 7am Kickoff:
“In the 9 years Fenway Sports Group took over at Liverpool, they built a team that got to the Champion’s League final by beating Barcelona 4-0. 8 years since Kroenke took over Arsenal have dropped out of the top four and are now hoping to win the Europa League to get back into the Champions League.”
“The points tally is ireelevant …”
Only thing that matters is points and no one gives a flying fcuk about xG, gambon.
Benny You’re not using my own logic against me, you’re not in fact using anyone’s logic. I’m not about to unpack why that is, your entire premise is utterly ridiculous. Receding If you want to debate it delve into the squad’s and tell me so. Emery had two bites at two different clubs. His Sevilla team won the EL thrice consecutively, how come he couldn’t muster at least a fanny flutter toward La Liga? Simeone took over Atletico in December 23rd and finished the season 5th. The year prior they were 7th, the year before that 9th. In his first… Read more »
Yea man, irrespective. Just ask United Charles I’m not sure I can keep talking to you honestly you seem more interested in being a contrarian smartass than actually adding anything to the debate. United have gone backwards because the had poor managers AND invested poorly. I’m assuming that Edu and others aren’t going to fail in that regard. If United actually signed well over the years thus masking over some poor managerial appointments they would be better off right now. That’s what they’ll be hoping for with regards to Ole that they sign up good enough players to paper over… Read more »
gambonMay 8, 2019 15:56:52 benny The last few weeks you seem to be arguing that you dont like Emery, but also hate everyone that doesnt like Emery. >>>>> gambon, Kind of in a way. Let me explain. I didn’t want Emery and was disappointed as I wanted Allegri and would have settled for Ancelotti. However I was prepared to give Emery the whole season and use the AKB defacto rule of judge him in may. I felt the criticism was very premature, unfair and hypocritical especially considering a large number of Emery outers, not you or Pedro, were AKBs who… Read more »
Rumors Pires joining coaching staff next season.
“Hodgson, Brenda, Nuno, Silva, Hughton, Hasenhuttl have all done better than Rafa vs. Emery this year”
Will Hodgson, Brenda, Silva, Hughton and Hassenhuttl have us in the top four in the EPL this year? If Yes what makes you so sure??
You can’t just list off managers that avoided relegation and say they have done better than another manager that avoided relegation lol
Excellent input as always Sal. You don’t think 300 million invested into this piece of shit squad would drastically improve us? No I suppose not. It’s only a manager that can do that
Jose Mourinho for Arsenal..
Jose to get the best out of Ozil for the next 2 seasons.( like Real Madrid)
Holding, Genduzi,Bellerin, Lacazette would all learn from him
Big improvements from Xhaka ,Sead and Mustafi… guaranteed
Fans awaken from their slumbers.
We would instantly become Londons biggest club again.
Could be an inspired call…
We need to take risks.
Playing safe- is no longer an option….
How is the 68m spend still a thing? I mean that’s how much we spent but it’s chump change ffs. Fulham spent more, Wolves and West Ham spent more, Brighton, Bournemouth and Everton almost spent as much, only a couple of million less. Chelsea and Liverpool spent almost twice as much as us each and the only reason Man U and City didn’t spend more than us net is because they have accumulated players they can actually get money for, they both outspent us and have for a long time. We’re never going to close the gap to the top… Read more »
“That’s a pedigree showing a manager capable of upscaling a side.”
Like Benitez recently upscaled Napoli, Inter and Real Madrid?? I mention Benitez because you say he was your choice. Are you judging his upscaling capabilities with things he last did a decade ago?
As for Simeone, he did a wonderful job and is rightly revered for it, what’s your point we should have got him? fair enough
Marko
It was a pretty brash take you threw out there, flipping conversation to suit agenda and dismissing manger completely.
jwl
Funny, because people who understand xG knew that Arsenal were struggling this season, and look what happened……we have picked up 4 points from 6 games against lower opposition.
People who understand xG knew that OGS was struggling massively at UTD despite them winning every game, look what happened….theyre 6th.
People who understand xG knew City were outperforming Liverpool even when they were 7 points behind them…..look what happened.
People who understand xG knew UTD had massively over performed last season when they finished 2nd…..look what happened.
Marko
You’ve just made a mug of yourself, i’d reel it in a touch. Literally everything I’ve written has been circumventing a pov about what/where/how Arsenal should be.
Oh very good, United have been poor thanks to duff Managers and poor recruitment?
So in each case would they have been better or worse off having severed ties after one season?
MarkoMay 8, 2019 16:30:37 Yea man, irrespective. Just ask United Charles I’m not sure I can keep talking to you honestly you seem more interested in being a contrarian smartass than actually adding anything to the debate. United have gone backwards because the had poor managers AND invested poorly. I’m assuming that Edu and others aren’t going to fail in that regard. If United actually signed well over the years thus masking over some poor managerial appointments they would be better off right now. That’s what they’ll be hoping for with regards to Ole that they sign up good enough… Read more »
Gambon understands xG…someone give him medal
It’s all agenda’s and the like with you Sal. I’ve not got an agenda at all my opinion on the state of Arsenal has never changed since the day Arsene announced he was leaving. I always maintained there’s no quick fix we’d be in a transitional phase and that time and investment was needed to rid the club of the stench of Arsene Wenger. He fucked us up so bad that it was going to take a while to steady the ship. And even longer if we have any ambitions of challenging for the league title.
RH
Think you misunderstood me. I was just responding to the opinion that Rafa would have undoubtedly been a better appointment than Emery. The Rafa (of 2018/19) has not shown me anything to substantiate that, even when head to head against the ‘tactically inept’ Emery.
“Like Benitez recently upscaled Napoli, Inter and Real Madrid?? I mention Benitez because you say he was your choice“
Did I say that? Or are you leaving out the context you were clamouring for just a couple of posts back:
“Emery was there, he keeping them in the top three places was seen as a minor miracle, i would say context is needed here.”
If you want to debate something, do so. I’m not interested in your snide remarks and boring put downs because you disagree.
i’d reel it in a touch.
Classic Charlie.
So in each case would they have been better or worse off having severed ties after one season?
Maybe or they would have been better off signing better players. They’ve gone through enough managers so I’m not sure if going through even more in quicker succession would have been better. I mean I don’t think that they’re thinking of getting rid of Ole already instead the argument seems to be to back him in the transfer market
Wait a minute Charlie
Are you now denying you have advocated Benitez as a better appointment than Emery?
Only gambon believe that Liverpool gave Klopp no money to spend in his first season because his net spend was zero
That’s some twisted logic there.
Hoksilato my sincere apologies then ..i completely misunderstood your post
Benny
I’d worry about your own attempts at input on here before claiming any ground to judge others.
Few absolute zingers from you as you’ve put the pom poms down for 20 mins.
Lol Dissenter
Youre the moron that earlier said
“Liverpool gave Klopp £70m….its just that they sold £70m of players to fund it”
Fucking hilarious.
Palace at Home, Watford, West Ham, Saints and Swansea away
I am yet to get Gambon’s response as to why Klopp failed to beat this rag tag army in his first season
PierreMay 8, 2019 16:21:33
“bennyThe last few weeks you seem to be arguing that you dont like Emery, but also hate everyone that doesnt like Emery.”
I’ve noticed joe going down the same road …they must be a little confused bless em.
>>>>>
I’m not confused Pierre, I Just happen to have an objective opinion not steeped in agenda, hypocrisy or prejudice.
Big difference.
”Funny, because people who understand xG knew that Arsenal were struggling this season …”
gambon – in what way were we struggling? We were in contention for top four until the end. Perhaps we have manager who performs above expectations or we have players who don’t conform to xG algorithms.
You’re the one with the pom poms CC
One that says Champagne
The other that says Charlie.
Receding
No, I’m not. I’m denying your assertion that he was “my choice” without giving the necessary context to that pov.
I rate Rafa more than Emery, he’s demonstrated more relevant success over the course of his career. A year down the line I see no reason to alter that view.
I see Brandt, Umtiti, Konate, a Pepe/Lozano type winger, Grimaldo/Gaya, a RB and someone replacing Xhaka in midfield improving us no end next season. Irrespective of Emery or someone replacing him
““Liverpool gave Klopp £70m….its just that they sold £70m of players to fund it”
Is that so hard for you to understand?
Liverpool spent 70 million on new players . Liverpool made 70 million outward transfers to offset that spending, That’s how you ended up with a net of zero. Get the math you’re spewing right.
You said Liverpool gave klopp ‘ zero” to spend? How do you spend “zero”
Who’s the “moron” now?
I see you’re getting tetchy, like the fish- smelling cunt that you are. It doesn’t take much to get you cussing.
Gambon
We have improved against the top 6 so saying we haven’t improved 1% is a flat out lie.
Also check out Liverpool’s XGa before VVD and after VVD, you’ll see what great players can do to a team.
Marko
Odd that you see United failing in recent seasons because of poor managers and recruitment, but you’re so certain the manager at arsenal is a total irrelevance.
Mattered who they hired obviously, but Arsenal will improve with better players “irrespective” of manager. Nice and consistent.
So where do you think Benitez would have us now Charlie?
Or wait you are not interested in points and league positions but linear improvement so let me rephrase, would Benitez have improved us linearly enough to Challenge for the title?? How long under Benitez before we expect a full scale title charge??
jwl
As in we were winning games we didnt deserve to win.
There was always going to be a correction, and guess what that correction was?
Everton 1- Arsenal 0
Arsenal 2 – Palace 3
Wolves 3 – Arsenal 1
Leicester 3 – Arsenal 0
Arsenal 1 – Brighton 1
You cant outrun your performance levels for ever.
Solksjaer and EMery have found out the hard way.
Dissenter
Who’s the moron? Uhh, you based on that comment…
They didn’t give Klopp any money did they? he had to raise the funds selling the players he had. You’re saying what happened and getting it wrong at the same time.. how?
Who did Emery have to sell to afford his players? None. He was given 60 mil. Do you not see a difference?
Are you on the wind up? Genuinely can’t tell lol
Everton 1- Arsenal 0
Arsenal 2 – Palace 3
Wolves 3 – Arsenal 1
Leicester 3 – Arsenal 0
Arsenal 1 – Brighton 1
The big man reeling out scorelines yet faking blindness when similar scorelines from Klopps first season, where he finished 8th, was posted.
Very consistent man this gambon, not a hypocrite at all
Receding
Oh more snide remarks? Yea, I’ll pass thanks. You’re not interested in debating anything, just casting aspersions.
All will be revealed in the summer if Arsenal can progress and show improvement results wise at least. If Xhaka or Mustafi or both are not replaced in the first team then we will know that the team are not going to really progress and those backing or shall we say being more sympathetic to Emery will know then that it will be a forlorn task for him with these two still around in the first team. I’d actually be more keen to see the back of Xhaka rather than Mustafi if it came down to one or the other.… Read more »
“Who did Emery have to sell to afford his players? None. He was given 60 mil. Do you not see a difference?”
Was Sven ever here or was he just a figment of my imagination?
Because i could have sworn we had grown men on here wailing when he left, we also has them giving him kudos for “unearthing” Matteo, Torriera, Sokratis, Lich (LOL) and Leno but now they are Emery players, as in players he specifically picked right.
azed
I dont doubt what great players can do.
However Klopp improved Liverpools average xG by 50% and slightly improved their xGA in his first 30 games with no pre-season and no transfer window.
Emery has had £65m, a full pre-season, 27 games in and he’s done nothing.
Clubs have significant and sophisticated analytics departments. Liverpool would have known they were onto a winner with Klopp before the results showed everyone that was the case.
Marko All agenda? If performing up to potential is an agenda then sure, i’ve stated since the dog days of Wenger floundering in this space my only agenda is to see Arsenal competing at the top. Wenger had become an emotional impediment to that, not able to compete in league like earlier in career. Many accused me of having an ‘anti Wenger agenda’ then not appreciating the value of FA CUP. Emery has made a serious of baffling decisions and it became apparent he wasn’t right for this league and the club had likely reverted to another cup specialist. We… Read more »
I think this Strasbourg RB will be a rather decent signing.
If Bellerin starts going walkabouts again and doesn’t show he is truly on it as he has shown in the past then this guy is good enough to come in and give him real competition unlike the old relic signed from Juve.
Re: Rabiot I’m not sure he would be leader material at all as someone suggested earlier. He is also noted for committing many fouls. Why is this? Just how good is Adrien Rabiot off the ball? We know he looks nice and silky on the ball.
You wouldn’t know what a debate is even if it slapped you in the face Charles
CC “Who did Emery have to sell to afford his players? None. He was given 60 mil. Do you not see a difference?” I explained this before Klopp didn’t have to raise any money. The club purchced his targets and sold off the players he didn’t fancy. The club sells the players not Klopp. In Emery’s case, it’s pretty obvious. We don’t have a back-room as good as Liverpool’s. Had we sold Ramsey for 50 million, Welbeck for 15 million and Ospina for 3 million, would you be crediting Emery for a net zero spend? Will you be saying Emery… Read more »
Dissenter
You think Klopp decided he would rather spend £70m than £140m.
You are going to absolutely embarrassing lengths to defend Emery.
If we had sold £68m worth of players, we wouldve spent £136m.
Its pretty simple.
“However Klopp improved Liverpools average xG by 50% and slightly improved their xGA in his first 30 games with no pre-season and no transfer window.”
Yet he felt the need to add Salah and Mane to the attack, VVD, Allison, two new fullbacks to the defense.
Why didn’t he just improve the ones he met to a title challenge??
By the way you are yet to explain the results i posted from his first season, where he finished 8th.
“If we had sold £68m worth of players, we wouldve spent £136m.Its pretty simple.”
If you had a vagina, you would be a woman. Also pretty simple
Chelsea have lost their appeal against the transfer ban
Interesting….Sarri (assuming he’s still around) will have to go Project Youth
Odd that you see United failing in recent seasons because of poor managers and recruitment, but you’re so certain the manager at arsenal is a total irrelevance.
Hardly odd. We’ve seen what good player’s are capable of. Just not at Arsenal.
Wenger would be all over Rabiot. Pleasing to the eye aethestic footballer.
I understand that Rabiot would be an improvement on Xhaka of course because of mobility but if you guys want to play more “heavy metal” football aka Klopp football then I think Rabiot is more your Wenger “classical music” footballer.
He has already whinged that he doesn’t like playing in a DM position and this coupled with his foul count may suggest he isn’t the best off the ball. Warning signs.
Project youth and calling in best crop of the many loaned out players they have.
Thoughts on Valencia
Is anyone as worried as i am?
Lucky for you I’m sure well be able to have this conversation in a years time, with Emery at the helm having had another two windows to strengthen and we’ll likely be looking at a similar table.
Probably. You see the difference though? Between given little time and little investment and given time and investment. Also when I said agenda I didn’t necessarily mean that you have an agenda just that you like to bring up the word agenda
Ishola
Maybe Rabiot could be the box to box midfielder and Torreira focus on DM duties?
Marko
You missed the point. United failed because of hiring poor managers and recruiting poor players (you said as much).
Yet you dismiss the relevance of the manager at Arsenal when some are saying we’ve hired a poor manager.
Go figure.
gambon I’m not defending Emery Point I’m making us obvious if you’;re not so tainted to blame Emery for everything. Klopp has a solid organization around him and they make an already good manager look even better. The Liverpool backroom, ice seems can sell ice to an eskimo hunter. They know how to move their bench warmers on for good money. That is going to reflect on Klopp’s numbers. Klopp spent 150 milion on two players last summer but it wouldn’t have looked so bad on the net-spending because they convinced Barca to spend a colossal 142 million. The net… Read more »
You guys should call a truce.
If we don’t see changes in the first team with certain current first teamers then we will know that Emery has an uphill battle anyway.
Those that are more sympathetic to him at present can chuck the towel in then and those that have predicted the demise of Emery will be happy that their oh so brave predictions have come to pass.
Gambon We are way better in games against the big 6 this year and we should have beat Spurs and United away but thanks to individual mistakes(Mustafi and Kolasinac) we drew both games…. Can you explain the rational behind us being better against the top 6 if Emery made know difference at all? Also before the Crystal Palace loss, we had won 10 straight at home in the EPL and you can’t attribute that to luck. My theory is often times, Emery get the formation right but it’s easier to get the players to focus for the big games than… Read more »
Receding
Give us 50-50 away to Valencia.
Third goal in leg 1 may prove to be the ultimate winner but its really not hard to envision us shipping an early goal and going full shit the bed mode in defense and clawing for the away goal late in game after going down 2 nil.
Words on a Blog
“Maybe Rabiot could be the box to box midfielder and Torreira focus on DM duties?”
I question the guys overall application to be seen as a very good box to boxer.
Jose Mourinho, Louis Van Gaal i mean this men have stellar CV’s better than Rafa yet they are considered poor and Rafa good?? Rafa’s last reasonable trophy was the Europa league (yes the one inferior to the FA cup) in 2012.
Riddle me that Charlie
Are you saying Mourinho and Van Gaal haven’t shown liner progressions in their careers??
I do not want Rabiot anywhere near AFC..i have said my piece on that.
He is not a fighter, nor is he particularly good at anything, think a taller Kovacic
Mourinho has crashed his last two clubs.
LVG is a fucking disaster in the same category.
Both destroy culture, Jose destroys image, neither play football the fans like.
Re: Rabiot I’m not sure he would be leader material at all as someone suggested earlier That would be me I never mentioned that he was a leader though someone referred to him as being moody or selfish or temperamental or something and I said good because we’ve got so many weak pussified silent types in this squad we genuinely lack any sort of character and adding someone like Rabiot wouldn’t be the worse thing in the world. I understand your trepidation with regards to him in our midfield he certainly wouldn’t add that much defensively though he’d still be… Read more »
Sal 50 -50 is pretty good
Maybe i am letting result against an already relegated Huesca scare me, having said that we are playing like a relegated side at the moment. The usual suspects have packed it in. Xhaka’s foul for the penalty on Sunday was simply unbelievable and wouldn’t have been believed if it wasn’t caught on tape, talk about reckless and stupid
Not many things would lead me to give up my season tickets, even after season after season of disappointment.
One sight of Maureen in the dugout and I’m off
If we don’t see changes in the first team with certain current first teamers then we will know that Emery has an uphill battle anyway.
True. If Mustafi and a few others are still here next season he’s a complete imbecile and should be gone instantly. If Xhaka’s still there next season I’m not. That’s a fact
Mourinho would be a horrible hire.
I’d like to see us go 4-3-3. Emery has got the midfield wrong all season IMO, we are constantly outplayed in there.
Rabiot would suit that.
I also like the look of Ismael Bennacer, our old player. Making real strides at Empoli, and very much a 2 way player.
Should have said, I think Rabiot will certainly end up at a CL club.
And I dont think we will be in the CL, so maybe a non-starter.
Gambon
Bennacer is bi?
Lol
I think if there’s ever a team that needs 3 in midfield it’s us. To make up for a lack of quality in defence an inability to control the game and it’d mean two widemen brought in
Azed “Can you explain the rational behind us being better against the top 6 if Emery made know difference at all?” We are worse against the other 13. “Also before the Crystal Palace loss, we had won 10 straight at home in the EPL and you can’t attribute that to luck.” No, but we picked up less points at home this season than last season. So I dont get your point. I didnt say we have been lucky to get any points this season, I said luck is the difference between our 63 points last season and our 67 points… Read more »
Mourinho would be end of days shit, next the Apocolypse.