The folk bizarrely pushing the idea that coaching isn’t an effective tool for progress had to cancel all future opinions going live in public.
Liverpool crushed the MIGHTY Barcelona in a 4-0 drubbing for the ages.
Yes, Shaqiri, Wijnaldum, Origi, and Henderson all featured and starred in an absolute masterclass at Anfield, showing that a strong vision, a defined footballing philosophy, and good old fashioned coaching can trump individual talent… even when that talent is Lionel Messi.
As Tr7 said perfectly the comments, ‘It was heavy metal football that rattled Barca, not the quality of players Liverpool has.’ They still delivered without their best players. An incredible achievement, even if it does make me pig sick… our biggest mistake of the last ten years was passing on Klopp and Pep.
MORE MONEY
MORE PLAYERS
MORE MONEY
MORE PLAYERS
… really doesn’t rub when you see Jordan Henderson as a regular in their side. Origi proving pivotal at the highest level. Low budget signings like Robertson game changing all season. Trent Arnold breaking through from the youth team and playing like a superstar. They lost Salah and still manage to compete. Arsenal lose Ramsey and the whole thing falls apart. Unai picked up a squad in better shape than Klopp, spent more money in his first transfer window than the German did in 2 years and managed to make things worse.
There’s no real way to compare the two managers. As I pointed out yesterday, Klopp finished a lowly 8th in his first season, but he also picked up a dreck squad that was deflated and 10th. He had no preseason to work with, and in his final 13 games, his team scored 31 goals. His coaching had him finish stronger than he started, you could see what he was doing on the pitch, not in hopeful translated text on Marca.
Their stadium was absolutely rocking. You know why? Because the football courses through the veins. It’s electric. The energy on the pitch translates to the stands. If you think that has been standard at Liverpool over the last ten years, you have never met a season ticket holder there.
I am jealous of what they have, Klopp has been a sensation. He was my original managerial crush way back when, I had my doubts about his rebirth at Liverpool, oh how wrong I was. Elite of the elite. Can you believe we let him sit without a job while Wenger paraded deal after new deal?
Just read these words Klopp had after the game.
“It was overwhelming … I actually … I said to the boys before the game that it’s impossible, but because it’s you we have a chance. I have watched in my life so many football games, but to play the best team in the world … look, winning is already difficult, but to win with a clean sheet … It’s 10.10pm and the children are probably in bed so I’m sorry about the language but can I say these boys are fucking talented giants. It’s all about the players.”
Employing an inspiring coach that knows how to develop players is so important. If you don’t have that, why persist? Charisma, passion, energy… that’s what makes a club rock. But again, I can’t hammer home how utterly bat shit it is to excuse this season because our players aren’t coachable. Think about that statement and how weak it is.
Pep Guardiola, the chequebook manager everyone slates, took a journeyman central midfielder called Fabian Delph and turned him into a regular left-back in a team that will go down as one of the all times greats in Premier League history. World class managers make average players great. They make collections of them work as a unit. They organise, inspire and equip them with the tools they need to succeed.
How about we talk about a really shite team, like, say, Southampton? They were in a mess before they played us at Christmas. Ralph Hassenhutl, an interest of Le Grove a few years ago came in and reshaped them. Ryan Bertrand had this to say on what he’s done.
“The manager has came in and has given us an identity,”
“He has given us a clear style of play and leaves no stone unturned.
“It is a real pleasure to go on the field like that and not have people questioning each other.”
“If you asked 100 people what Southampton’s style of play was, you would get similar answers,” he added.
“It would be that we are a high pressing team, very competitive and play good football.
“That may have been adrift before.”
If you asked 100 people about Arsenal’s identity, what would you get?
“Catch Kola on the overlap’
We are still there a year on.
Better players give you better results, no doubt, but whether it’s the highest level or the lowest, the clearer the vision, the better the outcome. Look at Mourinho over the years, his Champions League win with Inter Milan was genius. That squad was a ragtag bunch of pros that he turned into a formidable unit. Look at how Jardim toppled the mighty PSG. Look at what Ajax are doing, win or lose tonight.
Arsenal has conceded 52 goals so far this season. Some flag that Holding and Bellerin would have made things better… reality is, we were on for conceding 50+ goals with them in the side. Poor organisation is always going to leave you exposed regardless of who is playing. The game is far too competitive now to be able to get away with good players simply bailing you out. Everyone is of a high technical standard now, you will be destroyed if you aren’t organised and that’s exactly what’s been going on.
Sam Allardyce has always known this. He goes into clubs on fire, organises them and makes them competitive. He takes shite defences, with shite defenders and he makes them better. That’s good coaching even if the football causes an eye infection.
Anyway, time to move on. I think we all know where I stand on our bland on toast manager.
Tonight, we are ALL Ajax fans. Finally, something we can agree on.
However, I do fear that Spurs power will be a big problem for them and we’ll have to suffer a Champions League final where we want neither side to win.
I’m just going to be thinking about Vermaelen, Bergkamp, Kanu and Overmars all day today… then I’m going to pray to the footballing gods.
Spurs making a final would be too much.
If they lose this evening… that’ll be the 20th game of the season. They’ll have limped into top 4. They won’t have won a trophy, AGAIN.
How funny would that be?
Very.
See you in the comments. x
DM
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Hello
Tr4phy
Bankz is here for the tr4phy again
Damn I am so jealous of Liverpool 🙁
Unbelievable stuff from Liverpool yesterday. Well deserved.
That Alexander Arnold corner reminded me of something Henry, Pires et al would’ve done in their peak
lol bankz, rushing so much you spelled ur own name wrong
Liverpool will win the UCL now, with an outside chance to win the league if City trip up.
Goes to show how far ambition can go.
Ajax to win it all please.
“Unai picked up a squad in better shape than Klopp, spent more money in his first transfer window than the German did in 2 years and managed to make things worse.” Are you having a laugh, Pedro? How exactly are we worse now than last season? Strong chance of going to the Europa league final, and (barring a miracle) narrowly missing out on top 4 right at the death of the season.. instead of being out of the race since February. Perspective, please. You talk about Anfield rocking. You said the same about the Emirates against Napoli. You spoke of… Read more »
Alright we get it, Emery is garbage.
And our squad is great, it’s just misunderstood.
All those people over the years that said ‘be careful what you wish for’. We could have taken Klopp ffs and be playing exciting football lik Liverpool are now, or dominating football under Guardiola.
Proper melts.
On a more serious note, would love to hear from Pierre what kind of footballing philosophy would fit this ragtag bunch of misfits? Outside of our 2 strikers we have no pace, power, athleticism and very little technical skill. We have 2 defenders that are too old to more than 1 game a week and does so in a distinctly reduced fashion. We have Mustafi and Xhaka that drops clangers all over the place and creative players that doesn’t create anymore and aren’t fit for the PL.
Please enlighten us which style of play would fit this squad?
Oh, and no wingers and fullbacks that are only suited as wingbacks. Nearly forgot that amidst all the other problems we have.
“Unai picked up a squad in better shape than Klopp, spent more money in his first transfer window than the German did in 2 years and managed to make things worse.”
You are nuts Pedro. No way are we worse than we were last season. Yes we shat the bed to end the season but no way are we worse off than we were.
The fluctuations in emotions vary from week to week with you.
Great work Pedro
The Spurs game never happened
The Chelsea coaching masterclass never happened
The Napoli tie never happened (against Carlo who would have made us better )
We did not compete for a top four place up until the penultimate game of the season
In fact nothing good happened this season
We are presently the worst team in the EPL and Emery the laughing stock of world football
“Anyway, time to move on. I think we all know where I stand on our bland on toast manager.”
No we don’t, you haven’t been clear enough
Sorry DM, but there hasnt been any improvement at all. We are going to finish 6th again, We are going to finish 4 or 5 points better off, and that is down to complete luck, as we have scored goals at an unsustainable rate all season. We have the biggest gap between xG and goals scored in the entire PL (we have scored 10 more goals than we should have). Lets also not forget that Emery had an integrated Aubameyang for the entire season, he only played about 15 games last season. There is absolutely no doubt that Emery has… Read more »
“If they lose this evening… that’ll be the 20th game of the season. They’ll have limped into top 4. They won’t have won a trophy, AGAIN.”
Since it’s quote TR7 day, he does think they have one of the top three managers in the game. Why are they “limping”?
liverpool team has heart and desire it all comes down from the manager
klopp passion has filtered to the players and they believed
Emery is no Klopp or Pep, but we all knew that from the start. We only hoped that he would be insightful enough to iron out obvious defects from the Wenger duds he inherited. Instead” Mustafi……just as bad Xhaka……..no difference Iwobi….absolutely no progress. AMN…clueless as ever about what hes doing on the pitch The only improvements have been in 2 main personnel additions. Leno and Sokratis. without those 2 and the loss of Holding…we would have been limping behind Everton and West Ham. We have no defined style of play. Our defending is shambolic and more importantly. We have no… Read more »
Tits McGee – We are on course to concede the same, or more than last season – We are on course to score roughly the same, possibly less if we dont score 2 at Burnley on Sunday – We have had less shots on goal than last season – We have conceded more shots on goal than last season – Our xG is down on last season – Our xGA is up on last season – What’s worse is that all of these stats are worse at the end of the season than the start of the season. We havent… Read more »
Klopp and Liverpool are a match made in heaven. Liverpool’s standing as a top club originated from them being a team that would leave their sweat on the pitch back in the day. Then they added flair elements to that. But they still had that essence of hard work on the pitch. And this is what Klopp is about. Heavy metal, high octane call it what you want but it all equals to hard work and graft on the pitch. A current player that epitomises this hard work and graft is Robertson the LB and there are plenty of others… Read more »
Sorry
We will need to win 5-0 on Sunday, away to Burnley, to have scored more and conceded less than last season.
In other words, our attack will certainly be worse, and our defence roughly the same.
I’m about going into a full blown all red Liverpool celebration mood…
I smell citeh capitulating come Sunday, and pool winning a double this season..
have UEFA written Liverpool on the champions league trophy…
just like they did coming back from 3nil down to win the trophy against Milan back in the day.
UEFA should cancel the final and just award the trophy to pool…
“In other words, our attack will certainly be worse, and our defence roughly the same.”
Okay
Will you be open to a managerial change but no squad overhaul. I mean you have identified the problem obviously to be the coach, so why don’t we just change him and save ourselves a lot of money buying in an already competitive market. You know “coach” what we have.
i think liverpool have done well selling there star players i.e. luis saurez and coutinho made them £200m but they bought smartly with joel matip free from schalke, robertson from hull for £7m. winaldum cost £25m from newcastle, sadio mane from southampton for £35m salah from roma for £36m again majority of those players are premier league proven players we need to invest into premier league players, most of our buys from european teams hence why i think we should get the chilwells, mcquire, neves, doucoure i know if we bought doucoure we would be a better side straight away… Read more »
Another morning . Another cracking read. Another Thank you. Interesting that the workaholic author PedRo alludes to Klopp and coaching. Didn’t Klopp lose his long time assistant coach at the end of the last season? Strangely he was linked to us- to replace AW Klopp certainly has not missed him…. We can only close our eyes and wonder -what would have happened – had we taken Klopp -a few seasons back. The man is a footballing colossus. 1 defeat in 37 league games Another CL final Taking on the mighty Pep- toe to toe.( again) Milner and Henderson and Wynjaldm.???… Read more »
http://africa.espn.com/football/french-ligue-1/9/blog/post/3840451/psg-have-an-attitude-problem-and-until-its-fixedtheyll-be-kings-of-france-but-a-laughingstock-in-europe
This is one of those cases where you fixate on the manager and not some of the underlying issues if you read that article .
Arsenal as a football club have even more problems than PSG, so believing all we need is coaching and not a complete overhaul of certain players who have always let us down is what amuses me
One thing I fully agree. The Pool team has an identity. Every player knows his job. There is no confusion. They lost Salah and replaced him with Shaqri. They still played the same way. They replaced Fimino with Origi, Keita with Henderson. They still played the same way. For us, we played 3 games with three different formations. And we gave up three goals for each game and lost them all. What is our team’s identity??? On the other hand, the Pool players have much more heart and dedication. They are also smart footballer. They don’t need a coach keep… Read more »
Rodney K Er, how about comparing this season to this season?? These players are beating the best teams we’ve played, city and pool aside, so to claim these players can’t best Brighton and palace is just fucking ludicrous!! This team have proved themselves to be more than capable of the manager sets them out properly. He’s setting us up as underdogs against teams we should be swarming. We destroyed Man U Chelsea Napoli Valenica and spurs and liverpoolwere lucky to get away with a draw 80% of those teams are semi finalists in Europe this season so let’s not pretend… Read more »
Pedro Of course success is founded on good Management and Character. Liverpool demonstrated both yesterday and one should congratulate them on their unexpected achievement albeit through gritted teeth. However, Arsenal’s current situation is far more complicated than getting rid of the current Manager, because in your view he is not good enough. Let’s be clear Emery inherited a very poor and overpaid squad of players and the idea that we would get a better outcome with Messrs Guardiola, Klopp and Pochettino is frankly moonshine. For a start none of these Managers would touch Arsenal with a barge pole in the… Read more »
– We are on course to concede the same, or more than last season– We are on course to score roughly the same, possibly less if we dont score 2 at Burnley on Sunday– We have had less shots on goal than last season– We have conceded more shots on goal than last season– Our xG is down on last season– Our xGA is up on last season– What’s worse is that all of these stats are worse at the end of the season than the start of the season. We havent improved, not at all. Despite £65m spent, despite… Read more »
So Es
Would Leicester City have won the league had the Foxes chose Unai Emery as their manager instead of the charismatic Ranieri???
apparently tuchel is losing some of the PSG players
all sorts of stuff happening over there
neymar is the king over there, he had a bust up with draxler
mbappe is being big headed
maybe emery couldnt control them last season too
I tell you what would be funny,
Liverpool win the CL
Spurs fail to better Chelsea’s result at the weekend
Arsenal win the EL
Spurs finish 4th but don’t qualify for next years CL !
Receding
Have you ever heard of a false dichotomy?
Go look it up.
You think its possible to have a combination of good coaching and good new players?
Or in your weird little world, do we have to choose between the 2?
Last night was just so infectious. The atmosphere The fans The ground The occasion The players The manager The performance The emotion The absolute vision of the club It was just so arresting. The true romance of football. Go to the emirates, silly middle class herberts, mockneys waving handkerchiefs and eating prawn sandwiches. Anfield is a working class hub of passionate Liverpudlians. Liverpool deserve every accolade and trophy that comes their way. To think, all these emery arse lickers were gloating over klopp and Liverpool last week. Not so cocky now are you? Emery isn’t fit to be mentioned alongside… Read more »
Managers and players may have their faults, but this clubs problems stem right from the top. A lazy trust of people in place in another continent which we now know is neglect. I get that the Kroenkes don’t have the knowledge, time or desire to properly run this club. Many owners are in the same boat. Then , FFS get in people who can, they have consistently been found wanting on that. The Highbury years, the new stadium, some top players, wengers achievements from an age ago have been squandered at the altar of greed, neglect and just don’t sufficiently… Read more »
“Will you be open to a managerial change but no squad overhaul. I mean you have identified the problem obviously to be the coach, so why don’t we just change him and save ourselves a lot of money buying in an already competitive market. You know “coach” what we have.“ Typically snide comment, but as usual conjuring a different take to what’s being stated. Nobody is saying the squad is mint, it’s all Emery. Not one person preaching just a matter of coaching. The argument is dead simple: the manager (incredibly important figure at the club) isn’t up to scratch.… Read more »
gambon…. redtruth asked a question and I’m looking forward to you (Gambon) answering it…
would you accept just arteta as the only change at arsenal come summer with no incoming and outgoing of players…
just imagine xhaka, iwobi, mkhi, monreal and mustafi in the arsenal starting XI till 2021… it was be total chaos
Don
“Anfield is a working class hub of passionate Liverpudlians”
Dortmund is a working class area as well and their fans are seen in Germany as one of the best and most passionate.
Is it any wonder Klopp seems so at home at Liverpool and is so suited to them?
His football management and philosophy suited Dortmund and now he has found another in Liverpool that is tailor made for him.
i guess this summer we need players to play in “emery’s system” we dont need those inflated world class fee players just good players who know their role in the system i think emery has been fire fighting this season and has got it wrong using the kolasnaic cut backs have become so predicatable, smaller teams just fill there box iwobi can drive into the box but his decision making is so poor mkhi had like 4 good games this season but thats it, he gets picked because he tracks back xhaka gets picked because he can spray the ball… Read more »
ddkingz
I was massively against Arteta in the summer, im still against it.
Why would I want Arteta in?
“Worse” is a bit harsh for me. We are certainly no better in a lot of areas but we were much more competitive up until the last month where they seemed to revert to last season’s form.” You can fact check, but is it right to claim our end of season form is comparable to last seasons? I don’t think it is at all. Did we go 4 points from 18 (or whatever it was) at any stage then? Because if not you’re being incredibly lazy with what you deem “harsh“ with such a comparison. Emery has brought a new… Read more »
@ BergKamp
You would be disappointed. The FA is allowed to send 5 teams to next year’s CL.
It’s revealing that Liverpool’s heroics are making such big waves on here. Why? Because Liverpool are no man city or Chelsea. They’ve got where they are legitimately, This the begs the question, why are arsenal so average in comparison? We have a bigger stadium are London based and have the pedigree. The reason is ownership, plain and simple. Take a look at the effect the Fenway group has had on Liverpool since they took over and compare that to the effect KSE has had. Also, look at how well the Boston red sox have done in recent years and compare… Read more »
CG… you funny little kid.
where is your charismatic renieri?????
Morgan
Huth
Fuchs
Simpson
Leicester City title winners defenders
All 30 years plus
All journeyman.
Win league by 9 points.
As Gambon states- we are on the verge of conceding more goals than we did than under AW( last hopeless season) ….and . what with an alleged crack defensive midfielder ( Torreira) defensive additions and video analysis expertise etc, etc..
How anyone can excuse or back our totally inept manager( especially after Klopps Masterpiece) last night – is bewildering in the extreme….
Yeah lets get players in to play in Emerys system.
Would that be the 4-2-3-1, the 4-3-3, the 3-4-3, or the 4-3-2-1
Would that be high pressing players, like when we played UTD, CHelsea and Spurs at home – or lazy lethargic players like the other games this season?
Would that be “protagonists” like Emery said last June, or the non-protagonists we’ve seen all season?
Emery doesnt have a system, thats the big problem.
Ok.
You give emery that Liverpool team last night. Do we beat Barcelona 4-0 at the emirates?
Not a chance in hell.
Un
Thought of The Day:
“”Took lower league cast offs and turned them into fucking monsters. That’s what a top class coach can do.””
100000000000000000000000000000% correct.
Arseblog News reporting that Sanllehi travelled to the US last week and has comeback without getting guidance on how much money he has available to spend, either in the scenario where Arsenal qualify for CL, or the one where they don’t. My sense is the Kroenke “vision” at the moment is all about cost-cutting and getting rid of some of our overpaid players, replacing them with U23 players and young, cheap players from Europe and (if we can find them) the EPL. This will take a couple of years – as we all know, it ain’t easy moving comfortable players… Read more »
Oh and here’s the link to the report
https://arseblog.news/2019/05/kse-yet-to-guarantee-summer-transfer-budget/
If Arsenal qualify for the final , will we see the same warmth between Arsenal players and manager as we saw last night between Liverpool’s players and manager.
when is the last time arsenal even beat any team 4-0 at the emirates
i cant remember, i know we smashed fulham 5-1 away
CG
Good morning.
Comparing Liverpool with ourselves is mindblowingly silly.
You do know that the reason we didn’t get Klopp when he finished at Dortmund was down to your masters stubborn refusal to put the club first.
Blame Emery all you like but Wenger is the main reason we have fallen so far behind the footballing elite.
“Truth hurts”
Pierre
Every player in world football would love to play for Klopp.
His general demeanour and personality are infectious and inspirational.
Gunnershabz
“when is the last time arsenal even beat any team 4-0 at the emirates”
Our last 5 league games at home last season
5-0
4-1
3-2
3-0
3-0
Waking up to Pedro banter-fest again The idea that there’s a manager out there to revive the likes of Ozil and Mustafi is just laughable. I really hope you, Pedro and your ilk get that special manager with a philosophy that will ignite the likes of Ozil and Mustafi. Let me put it this way; no team with Ozil or Mustafi in it is capable of a night like last nights. Mustafi would have made one individual error to burst the bubble and Ozil would have been outpaced and bullied too many times to result in anything. Until we get… Read more »
Pierre
thanks for that
staggering stats those:
Wenger teams always finished the seasons like a train.
Amazing difference to what we have witnessed in the last few weeks,
Who are these bizarre folk who dismiss coaching? I could just as sensibly ask, who are these bizarre people who treat tactics as if it were the most important part of coaching? There are two keys factors in Klopp’s success story at Liverpool – and neither of them is the tactics used, they are known and familiar to every half-decent football coach. The first is man-management. Anybody who doubts that should check Henderson’s praise for Klopp’s pre-match team-talk. The second is team/squad personnel, many of whom must have been acquired on his say-so. Throw in an ownership committed to success… Read more »
Graham
Of course we missed out on pep and klopp because wenger hung around too long.
However, it is the owners job to sack the manager or not keep renewing his contract..
“Wenger teams always finished seasons like a train.”
Wenger teams finished higher than 3rd in the table only once in 10 years. Some train that.
Liverpool were always miles above us regarding European glory. We aren’t even on the same planet of romanticism. This is part of Liverpool’s DNA and lore.
As crazy as last night is, it’s no where near the crazy night where they came back from 3-0 to beat a very good AC Milan team.
I don’t get the comparison. Liverpool is a European giant….Arsenal,is not…c’est fini
Then you have clowns in our midst that look down on the Europa league when the only two European competitions we’ve won are a measly fairs cup and cup winners.
Dissenter You’re full of bitchiness lately, do you have an actual point or are you just here to refutes others? What are you saying beat Barcelona last night? Wizardry from Origi the gem? Or Wijnaldum? Give over. It was manic press, high energy vs lethargy and over confidence. They didn’t have Mane and Salah, but their two replacements came in knowing the role to perform. That’s the benefit of a system. Then on our side of the coin you have some claiming we didn’t beat any of Wolves, Leicester, Brighton, Everton on account of us not having Ramsey and Rob… Read more »
lso dismissing Henderson is wrong. He’s a dutiful professional who applies himself , the perfect foot soldier. That’s why he’s club captain. You can say the same of James Milner Who did Wenger’s sign in his last decade who fits this mold? No one Let’s forget the ‘special players for once. Do we have piano carriers or basic foot soldiers like James Milner or Henderson at Arsenal? That’s why a new manager comes in and struggles to find anyone with leadership potential so badly he had to name 5 players. We’ve been signing dross for one decade then people wake… Read more »
Monreal fits that bill quite comfortably..
The problem was that AFC clung on to AW whilst all the best mangers in our era were being distributed out. We were left will Emery type left overs. Whose to blame? Greedy Wenger for hanging on? AKBs? Careful what u wish for crowd? Yes yes yes. But ultimately it is because we had a piss poor CEO and an owner who knows nothing about football and cares even less. Poor decisions after decisions. No vision or direction. No leadership. Sanhelli is just a mercenary. As are the passionless players. A mess of a club with no accountability to the… Read more »
“Monreal fits that bill quite comfortably..”
Until age and injuries caught up with him and he now struggles against virtually any half speedy winger he plays against
I don’t hate, nor love Emery. I feel sorry for him because I believe he was sold a crock of bullshit just like we were all those years ago about moving stadiums so we could compete with the best. But I honestly believe even klopp and gaurdiola combined would struggle with the squad he inherited. Sure they might have 5 more better games a season than we have this year, but let’s be real, even God would struggle with the state of the club off the pitch. Under kroenke we have become a laughing stock, and even with the appointment… Read more »
CC ‘What are you saying beat Barcelona last night? Wizardry from Origi the gem? Or Wijnaldum? Give over. It was manic press, high energy vs lethargy and over confidence’ Excuse me if I refuse to join the merriband conventional thinking that’s missing the big picture. You lot are dismissing players that Klopp brought in or CHOSE to keep. Not everyone is a masterful genius or Beethoven level pianist. Klopp has a;so aggregated foot soldiers that are adapted to play the way he plays. That’s the difference between the recent Klopp teams and the one that meekly lost to Sevilla in… Read more »
Emery does have a preferred system/philosophy – which we have seen on some occasions this season. However, there seems to be a certain amount of over thinking on his part when it comes to nullifying the opposition. Especially with regards to our away games. I think he has overloaded the players with too many systems to contend with and this along with our mental block in away games has muddied the waters with regards what he wants from the players and what they produce. Some of this is his fault certainly but i also think some of our players are… Read more »
Don’t even know where this notion Klopp would have chosen us instead of Liverpool or Pep us instead of City came from.
If you are really interested in the big name managers i don’t see how your final two choices could have been Arteta(not a manager) and Emery (a manager coming off a tough time at PSG).
Conte was available
And for those talking about disaster hires should check out Frank de Boer at Palace, AVB at Chelsea etc
Disaster hires do not compete for Champions league places or European semi-finals in their first seasons
Think Barca will be looking for a new manager in the summer after last night and will spend some serious cash as well. I wonder if they’re interested in Mustafi or Xhaka?
Someone will have to do well to explain how Wenger was to blame for anything bar the imbalanced squad. We had every opportunity this past summer to: – pick a new direction – outline our identity – learn from the mistakes of the last decade – select someone fit to the task of realising it – cull players who had previously been saved by Wenger – buy players to fit the new managers ethos Having an imbalanced squad, or only 70 mil instead of 150 mil we “could’ve” had, is dire excuse making for the shower of shit offered up… Read more »
From a Wenger cult to an Emery one.
What a shambles this club’s supporters are.
We got the manager and the players we deserve. I’ll tell you why, arrogance. What because we play in a vacuous stadia and have an N1 postcode it entitles is to something? Balls. We’re second rate and dropping fast. Shit club. Shitter fans.
The overwhelming feature of ‘Pool last night was the passion – both on and off the field. It’s a feature which is sadly missing at AFC today.
In the hands of Kroenke, with a poor set-up and penny-pinching budgets, I cannot see it returning soon. We live in an age of mediocrity and have settled for second best.
@Hitman
Spot on. My sentiments exactly. The fans need to boycott games. Don’t moan and yet keep turning up to games because nothing will change. Hit them in the wallet where it hurts, and watch change take place.
Look at last season, do people honestly think if the fans hadn’t stopped going to games that wenger would of been sacked? The moment they sure dwindling attendances, they woke up. Stop going games, stop buying merchandise, that will in turn hit our sponsorships, as who wants to sponsor a team with disgruntled fans and a team doing nothing on the pitch.
I’m not sure I’ve seen anyone dismiss coaching on here. They has been a view put forward that we have a handful of players who are “uncoachable”.
Ultimately I think our squad needs a major revamp. We have a few positions that don’t need emergency surgery but a good few that do.
Oh Christ, didn’t realise you were so unconventional Dissenter. What a lad you are
Remember that refusing to bow down to the majority continent conventional thinking isn’t bitchiness.
It’s dissent…and I won’t stop till Pedro decides I’m too annoying.
I mean who dismissed foot soldiers that were carefully selected or kept by the manager.
I asked if we have any at Arsenal…only one player was cited.
Milner is older than Monreal. How come Milner can still run and Monreal’s legs are gone?
Do you think Klopp will still Milner around when his legs are gone?
Words on a blog
That makes for grim but unsurprising reading.
“The fans need to boycott games. Don’t moan and yet keep turning up to games because nothing will change.”
This is one of my major issues with the comments section on here. How many fans on here attend matches regularly? By that I mean even half a dozen a season. This place is full of people telling other fans what to do when they won’t do anything themselves. How about cancelling all of your TV sport subscriptions?
CC
I’m not afraid to be the lone voice of dissent here.
I’ll be here yapping when you and your type keep t]using everything against a cudgel against the manager who’s been here for one season while trying hard to excuse the previous long serving manager who created the mess
Dissenter
You’re awfully full of your foot soldier analogy. We don’t have a commanding officer you melt, let’s get one of them first ehh 😂
Bottom line about last night was that a cobbled together Liverpool team outmuscled, outfought and outran the much vaunted Barcelona team and they didn’t want to know. That collective spirit where you would die for the team is what Klpp has instilled in all his teams. Could you imagine the likes of Ozil putting in that type of unselfish work constantly closing down the ball carrier? The likes of Mustafi and Xakha showing the type of 100 % commitment to avoid doing something lazy and stupid? We’re light years away from that at the moment and have been foro a… Read more »
“Great coaching outshines talent as Klopp destroys Barca”
Really? Is it great coaching when there’s a giant killing in the cup? Where was this great coaching last week when they lost 3-0? You can twist it any way you like.
Liverpool played really well. Looked like they wanted it more. But Barca didn’t turn up. It happens to even the best teams and players. I really like Klopp. But to make out he’s worked some miracle is nonsense.
Anyways i really see no point in all this back and forth
Emery will be here next season ..100% so what exactly is the point of all the hysterics?? The exaggerations, the 0% improvement lines, shower of shit bla bla bla
The most pressing issue now for actual fans is Valencia on Thursday and the need to become a champions league club again. It attracts better players, increases revenue and saves us from the depressing Thursday night games.
Bring on Thursday
Dissenter
Yea here’s the thing though mate, I’ve been saying this since he was appointed and it certainly wasn’t a conventional POV then now was it?
I had doubts, I expressed those doubts, was told to shhh. So spare me the lone voice nonsense Rosa Parks and go take your seat lol
I mean who even compares our European nights to Liverpool’s
We have always been eons behind Liverpool on the European hierarchy .
They did deny our best teams opportunity to win something meaningful due to the ban they caused for everyone else.
I want spurs to win it. To see the absolute crushing disappointment and heartbreak on the Gooners little faces might just snap this club into the modern world.
Pierre
I guarantee no other top manager would have done what Wenger did. By that, I mean stay on beyond his sell by date.
He looked bored and drained years back but his ego got the best of him.
Kroenke was never going to sack him. It was upto the fans to twist his arm, which they eventually managed to do but, by that time, it was far too late.
I don’t blame Kroenke, I blame our deluded fans.
For me it was the core of our fanbase who are to blame.
Not our owner.
Ian Wright doesnt seem to happy with Emery.
Said he abandoned his pressing game, said the mentality hasnt been addressed, and everything seems to have stagnated.
CC
No commanding officer can make a soldier out of the likes of Ozil and Mustafi. There were brought in by a manager who selected players carefully based on their urbaneness, not for their desire to win.
Wenger liked nice boy. We have nice boys. Now you’re expecting them to lead a bayonet charge?
Until we clear out all the mess that was signed, no hope..no hope
It doesn’t matter who the manager is. No amount or risk mitigation will help
Have a good day. I hope to have a melting blast.
At least be honest enough to quote Wright in full “I think that it’s still a massive transitional period,” he told BBC Radio 5 Live’s Football Daily podcast. “I think that when they started with Unai Emery and he wanted to do this high-pressing game and the players he got, I genuinely feel it’s the same. “I feel he hasn’t got the players to do what he wants to do, to kind of execute the game he wants, because it totally seems like it’s been abandoned. “I watched them against Leicester the other day and there’s no creativity in the… Read more »
Gambon – the pressing game was mostly abandoned for a more passive defensive game. A player issue i reckon. To my mind Auba, Lacca, Toreira, Guen get it – but the likes of Ozil, Mikhi, Xhaka and Iwobi seem confused by it.