Emery DESTROYS Valencia

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Another Europa night, another devastating pummelling of a prestige team.

The big man in charge, Sir Unai Emery, inflicted defeat over Valencia in a pretty poor match at The Emirates.

Unai opted for what some thought was an attacking formation, with some thinking it was defensive. I thought it looked like a 3-5-2 at home, with 7 defensive players on the pitch, with a view to keeping a clean sheet for the second leg. Others thought it looked like a wrecking machine with two strikers and Ozil free to create havoc.

Havoc we created. The opening 20 minutes were straight out of the dustbin. Matteo and Xhaka were all over the place, the defence was getting pulled every which way and there was no intensity to our play. We even managed to concede from a setpiece (which is pretty rare), a long ball to the back post was nodded back into the mixer, Xhaka was nowhere and he was beaten to ball by Diakhaby who headed home.

The Swiss really isn’t fit for purpose… it makes me so sad that when he has a few ok games and all the usual suspects revert back to him being peak-Gilberto when it comes to football enigmas. He’s not. He’s bang average. There is nothing smart in the long-form editorial suck up pieces that lambast social media obsessed millennials who just don’t understand the beautiful game because they can’t see the beauty in Xhaka. Football fans are OBSESSED with other fans who celebrate shit players in militant fashion because it’s so bizarre, you worry you truly are missing something. You’re not. You weren’t with Senderos. You weren’t with Denilson. You’re not with Xhaka. Move on.

Up the other end, 7 minutes later, Lacazette played a perfectly weighted ball to Auba, he cut back and gave his buddy the gift of an open goal from ten yards. What a gentleman. I love those two. If they had a child, it’d be one helluva striker… would probs dress nice too.

7 minutes later, Xhaka showed why the usual suspects menace themselves to bedroom posters of his radar maps. He whipped a beautiful first-time diagonal ball into the box, Lacazette made a yard on his centre back and headed into the ground, the keeper claimed the ball didn’t cross the line but the refs watch buzzed… techhhhhhnology wins again. Xhaka… what a cross, I really think if you ignore the OTT critique of Xhaka, there’s a great player in there, I guess some people just don’t get it.

The second half just didn’t feel particularly smart. We were chasing the third goal and leaving Laurent Kos and Sokratis completely exposed on the counter. It was really tough to watch, Cech kept us in the tie when he denied Kevin Gameiro with a great block. Kos nursed an injury for as long as he could before limping off, we really have to pray he’s going to be ok. That block where he threw his head at a foot late on was something else.

Late on, Kola found Auba at the back post on a tight angle, the ball was struck awkwardly but crept in at the near post. A real shame most fans had gone home by that point. A sad indictment of the fans? The drab football? The Europa League? Who knows.

3-1. That’ll do nicely. £100m worth of strikers to the rescue. Another example of how dependent we are on superhuman finishing.

There’s no point in analysing the game too much. The football was awful, we looked a mess, but we did the job. We’ll shithouse ourselves to the final and then it’s a coin toss… and there’s no manager that knows this trophy as well as Unai.

Whatever my thoughts on his long-term future, watching him twitching out on the sidelines shows how much passion he has for the project. When that third goal landed at the end, he lost his damn mind. It’s great to see. He’s a hard worker, a trophy in his first season would be epic, it’d be even better if we didn’t have to play Chelsea.

Also… does a cup final count as an away game? Answers in the comments.

I’m getting ahead of myself, let’s see if we can go away from home and not concede 3 goals… not as easy as one would think.

Right, see you in the comments you total meltbags xx

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  1. Marko

    Charlie you’re also struggling with coming to terms with being a hypocrite (among other things). Again where were these comments the last few years? Ah yes Big Weng. Could still do a job. You never know he might come back. Comes back gives Xhaka a new contract and the captains arm band and signs Antonio Valencia. Win win for Charles

  2. Elmo

    So it will be 73 points maximum for the team in 4th place.

    We really can only kick ourselves if we don’t make it, as that’s a very modest total when you have four big teams chasing it.

  3. Freddie Ljungberg

    TR7

    SDE is and always will be a rambling lunatic with self control issues and an unhealthy obsession with comma signs.

    He comes on and plays nice occasionally before he predictably goes off the rails again and gets banned or fucks off in a huff.

  4. Marko

    I don’t think I need to even make a case for Poch

    Ah you’ll have to if you’re saying he’s top 3 manager’s in world football. If you said top 10 there wouldn’t be an issue top 5 you’d have a debate on your hands but top 3 that takes some explaining

  5. Champagne Charlie

    Freddie

    Not comparing like for like, it’s a premise that teams of that ilk are “good teams” and losing as we did was par for the course.

    Your point conflicts with any number of ideas seen fired across this place about how or why we’re doing well.

  6. Receding Hairline

    We really messed up a top three finish in the space of three matches. The palace game the most unforgivable.

    The club should be ducked points if Mustafi still plays for us next season.

    Pochettino is supposed to have worked this league out, 13 defeats a season is inexcusable but many on here will find a way to excuse it. They reserve their mockery and jibes for the manager in his first season

  7. Marc

    Poch actually keeping it together.

    Could be a case of late onset depression.

    Hopefully followed by a severe case of bumfucked in Amsterdam.

  8. Nelson

    EPL is a very physical league. If you don’t have a deep squad like MC or the Pool, you’ll have a hard time playing against those mid-table teams this time of the year when you are also fighting on both fronts.

  9. Leftsidesanch

    The mission is clear, beat Brighton and Burnley – both are achievable. Hopefully both safe by this evening and then hope one of Spurs and Chelsea drop points.

    We’ve been intent on throwing away any opportunities presented to us, I hope we can take this slight opening.

  10. Freddie Ljungberg

    CC

    How is that? We struggle against teams with pace and power because we don’t have any ourselves, the technical ability we used to rely on is diminished to the point where it doesn’t make the difference the way it used to.

    with a decently rested squad and most of our first eleven available we can still make it work but as soon as fatigue, injuries and suspensions happen we’re down to barebones.

    We’re where we are because we have slightly overperformed relative to our squad and Chelsea, Man u and Spurs have underperformed. That and our strikers bails us out when the rest of the team are not up to scratch.

  11. Leftsidesanch

    Spurs just played a chunk of the game with 9 men too, aren’t in great form going into a semi final second leg, have Kane missing (& Son for next weekend) and face a side who will want to right the wrong of a 6-2 defeat at home earlier this season.

    Over to you Walcott (silly hair and all) and co.

  12. gambon

    If we win both our games, I think we will more than likely finish top 4.

    I would say Spurs are about 70% to beat Everton, Chelsea 50% to beat Leicester

  13. Un na naai

    Marko

    He never took me down at all.
    He called me a chav and claimed I lived in a council flat

    Yeah that boy was on fire

  14. Marko

    It’s shocking. A missed pen from a £50 million plus striker could cost us CL and £30 – £40 million.

    You can also say without Aubameyang’s goals this season we’d be nowhere near the conversation

  15. Marko

    He said more than that Don. A complete character take down it was. And to see you fumbling for a response was hilarious

  16. Dissenter

    gambon
    “I would say Spurs are about 70% to beat Everton, Chelsea 50% to beat Leicester”

    Have you statistician run the numbers without Son playing
    Have your statistician run the numbers to faction in Everton playing for possible EL qualification

    You think Spuds will beat Leicester away?
    Where does that 50% come from?

  17. TR7

    Marko

    How many trophies would Ancellotti, Zidane and Allegri (the names often bandied around in the top managers’ list) win if they managed Southampton and Spurs ? Not many I think. So to argue Poch shouldn’t be in the reckoning when we talk of top 5/top 3 managers because he hasn’t won anything is off the mark in my view. He has all the other traits of a great manager – tactical nous, ability to develop youth , poise and class, ambition, the ability to extract the best out of available resources He will win trophies in his career too, I can bet my house on that. Not like he is in to his 60’s.

  18. Marc

    Marko

    Wasn’t a major criticism of Auba – more a case of all the players you’d expect to bury it and he didn’t.

  19. Champagne Charlie

    Freddie

    Because whatever way you slice it you’re stepping on the toes of an argument that’s been made to prop up this Arsenal side this season. You have to be an Olympic level gymnast mentally to keep up with all the changes mind, so it’s not a dig.

  20. gambon

    Dissenter

    Spurs won’t be playing for EL qualification.

    I would say 70% spurs win is about right. Maybe a bit less.

    The point I’m trying to make is, if we win, it’s probably 70%+ that we finish either 3rd or 4th.

  21. Rambo Ramsey

    The PL is a meaningless trophy for Pocchettini. He’s aiming for CL glory, that is until Wednesday, when he’ll get his ass spanked by Ajax.

    After that the CL will also be small trophy for the Potless one, the galaxy will be what he’ll be after.

  22. Dissenter

    TR7

    Gladly do yourself a favor by dropping this claim that Poch is amongst the top-3 manager in the word.

    I supposenof you define “world” like Americans, you can claim the premier league is the “world’

    It’s one of the most ludicrous and laughable things said here.
    It’s more risible when you’ve spent the last season snapping away at Emery [in his first season] who is a younger and more decorated manager.

  23. Dissenter

    gambon;
    Everton will be playing for EL qualification when they go the spuds toilet next week.

  24. DaniAltos

    Legrove’s band of pochettino ass rimmers better hope that Emery somehow doesn’t manage to finish above the spuds because the amount of shit am going to unleash on them is second to none….

  25. Freddie Ljungberg

    So you don’t need to win any trophies when managing Southampton and Spurs but it’s completely different and you’re a total loser Esbjerg if you don’t win the league with Seville and Valencia? Those 3 europa leagues where just a fluke he should have won the fucking league, Barca, Real Madrid and Atlethico are bloody lightweights.

  26. Rambo Ramsey

    TR7, could you please enlighten us how a manager with all those super, awesome qualities will be scraping the barrel to finish above the bang average Emery?

  27. Dissenter

    “How many trophies would Ancellotti, Zidane and Allegri (the names often bandied around in the top managers’ list) win if they managed Southampton and Spurs ? ”

    One of the definitions of “top manager” is the sheer desire to manage at a bigger level.
    Wenger will be the exception because he had won everything bar the CL when he declined to leave Arsenal.

    Why did Poch spurn the chance to manage Madrid or United?
    He’s found his comfort zone where he can lose 13 league games a season and still be regarded as one of the top-3 managers in the world by a fan of a local rival.

  28. Marko

    Yeah TR7 he probably will but that doesn’t change the fact that as of right now he has zero trophies to his name and you have him in the top 3 managers working today. As for the poise and class stuff is that all? Definitely a question of ambition with him because of his comments on trophies feeding egos and the fact that he really didn’t do enough to try for the Madrid and United jobs. And the getting the most out of his squad stuff is a bit ridiculous I think. He’s got a great squad these last few years one of the more stable and consistent ones around and the title challenge kept falling away longer than it should have. I think he’s a very good manager and done a great job at Spurs but he’s got nothing to show for being one of the very best managers in the world.

  29. Danialtos

    Also,the same people who make all kinds of excuses for poch I have not heard a single one mention Aubameyang’s stupid penalty miss against the spuds….

  30. Dissenter

    gambon

    if….if….if….if….if

    Did you factor that “if” in when you came up with those numbers?

    Everton wont be on vacation when they play Spuds. All the pressure will be on Spuds.

  31. Un na naai

    Marko

    Not a fear of it boyo. He called me a chav and claimed I live in a council flat, that’s it. Anything else was so memorable that your sieve brain lost a long time ago
    Basically he was looking for a chink in my armour and playing to his own pre conceived notion of who he wanted me to be. He was wrong. Wildly wrong. He was a more worthy advisory than you though. You’ve become the local low hanging fruit marko.

  32. Champagne Charlie

    “Yeah TR7 he probably will but that doesn’t change the fact that as of right now he has zero trophies to his name and you have him in the top 3 managers working today. “

    Harry Kane hasn’t lifted a teapot and he’s still among the best on the planet as a striker.

    The trophy fallback is a simplistic and flawed argument.

  33. Dissenter

    It’s also unfair to Harry Redknpap because he left a good foundation for Poch to start from.

  34. Marko

    Not wanting to open up a can of worms here or be seen as a Emery fanboy either but it is weird that the criticism of Poch not winning any trophies can be brushed aside because he’s still young and got plenty of time left but Emery who’s the same age and has actually won things is seemingly incapable of improving as a manager. It’s just odd. If one’s capable of change for the better you’d assume the other is as well. Unless you think one manager is good and the other isn’t

  35. Rambo Ramsey

    Emery has won trophies managing modest side in Spain, he’s won trophies managing a giant in France, if he can best Chelsea he’ll be winning a trophy managing an above average side in England.

    Three countries, three different types of teams, trophies. Serial winner.

  36. Dissenter

    CC
    “Harry Kane hasn’t lifted a teapot and he’s still among the best on the planet as a striker. The trophy fallback is a simplistic and flawed argument.”

    …because Harry Kane is an individual who is adjudged on his goal scoring stats and overall ability for Spuds and country

    Totally different because Harry Kane has gone INDIVIDUAL HONORS

    Not your best comeback, you’re capable of a better riposte

  37. Marc

    gambon

    It won’t but Everton would still be chasing the “beating the greatest manager there’s ever been who never won a trophy” trophy.

    As everyone knows that ones worth more than the FA Cup, PL, EL, CL and World Cup combined.

  38. gambon

    Pochettino markedly improved Spurs for 3-4 seasons (and has flatlined).

    Emery hasn’t delivered any improvement at all.

    If Emery wants to be thought of the same, we need to see improvement.

  39. Joe

    Gambon

    If emery gets us the CL in any way this season will be considered a success and therefore has improved us.

    We would have finished 8-10th with wenger

  40. Champagne Charlie

    Dissenter

    No it’s just, because the same criticism makes it’s way into players. It’s a ridiculously simple argument, because it suggest there can only be ONE good manager per season in terms of the league.

    Which is clearly absolute rubbish. If context is removed then the discussion itself is a waste of time.

  41. Rambo Ramsey

    Fat Sam does a marvelous job changing fortunes of relegation bound teams. He defies expectations, gets the most out of his players, helps develop English youth etc etc.

    Fat Sam for the Top three manager in Europe.

  42. terraloon

    Gambon

    It’s possible if a whole load of things came together that 8th place could get EL.

    Man City win the FA cup
    Either Chelsea or Arsenal in the top 4 and the other winning the EL .
    So 5 in the CL and the EL place taken by the 8th placed team.

  43. Marko

    Harry Kane hasn’t lifted a teapot and he’s still among the best on the planet as a striker. The trophy fallback is a simplistic and flawed argument.

    Ah come on your better than that. He’s got golden boot awards in two league campaigns and a world cup to show for his quality. It’s hardly the same of a manager who’s one of the top 3 with not a thing to show for it. Also if Harry Kane goes his whole career without a trophy that’ll stain his whole career

  44. Dissenter

    Actually if Emery gets us the EL this season he would have outdone Poch already

    …🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

  45. TR7

    Freddie

    ‘So you don’t need to win any trophies when managing Southampton and Spurs but it’s completely different and you’re a total loser Esbjerg if you don’t win the league with Seville and Valencia? Those 3 europa leagues where just a fluke he should have won the fucking league, Barca, Real Madrid and Atlethico are bloody lightweights.’

    I have never bashed Emery for not winning La Liga with Seville/Valencia. My criticism of him has largely been based on lack of improvement in our defense and complete lack of fluidity in our attack.

    Rambo

    Spurs haven’t signed a player in last 18 months means they haven’t added a player to what was already a depleted squad. Their players look knackered. They don’t have their best striker available for almost a month. Still Poch has got his team in to last 4 of the CL. I don’t think you had Spurs getting in to CL SF at the outset but now if they lose to Ajax, you will use the defeat to mock Poch. If Spurs get through to the final but end as runner up, you will call Poch a bottler rather than crediting him for reaching the finals.

    Anyway I don’t want to rile up other gooners by my continuous unabashed praise of Poch. I am not on a crusade to convince others either.

  46. Dissenter

    CC
    There you go again

    You’re falling into that comfortable “context” trench again

    Sorry.———Poch ———-no trophy
    ——–Kane————individual accolades and goal-statistics

  47. Marko

    Pochettino markedly improved Spurs for 3-4 seasons (and has flatlined).Emery hasn’t delivered any improvement at all.If Emery wants to be thought of the same, we need to see improvement.

    Very true. Another case for time. I’m not trying to suggest that Emery is better than Poch just this idea of a total bottler with no trophies being one of 3 best managers in the world is frankly ludicrous to me. He’s better than one of Klopp or Allegri apparently

  48. Leftsidesanch

    Everton will be a tough game for an out of sorts side missing their two key men this season. Losing 6-2 at home at Goodison is enough motivation in itself to want to get a good result.

    It doesn’t matter if we don’t win our games but I’m gonna be optimistic about my team (beats the daily Spuds love in from the usual suspects. I know a lot of Spuds and none of them spoke this glowingly about us even in our glory days.)

  49. RodneyKing

    Joe
    May 4, 2019 14:49:36

    “I bet arteta would have us fighting Liverpool and city this season!”

    Pretty sure he would have. Just like he did at …..

  50. Un na naai

    The emery/poch debate is actually a very good one and although I see poch as a better coach the response is actually quite thought provoking. I don’t rate emery myself but poch has a net spend of £29m at spurs

    In that time he’s nearly won the league in 2016, reached the champions league semi final and produced a team of top level british players (many of whom fired England to the World Cup semi final) on a shoestring

    Emery has out spent him in 3 months and is still behind him. That’s not to say emery won’t produce better than poch next season. I don’t see it at all but he could. Let’s see

  51. Dissenter

    TR7
    Excuses…Excuses…Excuses

    If Poch wants to be remembered as a great manager then he should have left the club that didn’t sign any players in 18 months.
    Instead he re-signed his contract with more money
    He then settled into proper mediocrity with all that talk that minimized trophies

    …but he still has you champing at the bits propping him up.

    He has no stomach for a proper big team because he wouldn’t have excuses to fall back on.

  52. Un na naai

    Anyway I don’t want to rile up other gooners by my continuous unabashed praise of Poch. I am not on a crusade to convince others either.

    Tr7

    Not at all. He’s done a great job and you should be entitled to your views.

  53. Freddie Ljungberg

    TR7

    Ok, you cling to the magic wand idea that thinks a defence full of braindead/ over the hill players and an attack with crap CAMs and no wingers or dribblers whatsoever can be transformed into a fluid, fort knox like machine.

    We are already overperforming as it is with this squad. This is beyond a training ground or coaching issue, if we want any major improvements it’s going to happen in the transfer market.

  54. Champagne Charlie

    Dissenter

    Context is key, I’m not sure what angle you’re coming at there.

    Also, Kane himself has been subject of doubters on here claiming he needs to prove himself by winning Spurs trophies. So can’t have it both ways.

    Can there only be one good coach per season in the league? Klopp, Pep, Nuno particularly good this season, sucks that two wont get noted for it.

  55. Marko

    No it’s just, because the same criticism makes it’s way into players. It’s a ridiculously simple argument, because it suggest there can only be ONE good manager per season in terms of the league.

    If I said something like this I’d get abuse for it. Stick to what’s being discussed no one is saying that he’s not a good manager he clearly is. The question is how can he be considered one of the top 3 coaches in the world? Without any trophies without a sustained title challenge without anything substantive to back it up. Especially considering that there is other good managers out there with actual trophies and success to back it up

  56. Dissenter

    Un na
    Inbety you had your 9 vs11 arguments all set upon before Nathan Ake scored that winner.
    I bet you had your spuds pompoms ready to start waving in our faces.

    Besides the argument is not “doing well” – it is that Poch is one of the top-3 managers in the world.

  57. Un na naai

    Freddie

    Nobody claimed to expect Fort Knox. We wanted improvement. Not only have we not improved but it looks as though we are going backwards. The Valencia win aside we have been atrocious in our last 6 matches at a time when we need results. This is where the manager’s mettle comes in.

  58. Freddie Ljungberg

    un na

    “Emery has out spent him in 3 months and is still behind him.”

    Please be better than this. A team isn’t built in 1 transfer window with a midtable spend. Ridiculous comparison.

  59. Rambo Ramsey

    “In that time he’s nearly won the league in 2016”

    You mean the season where he ultimately finished third? Behind rusty old Wenger.

    What an achievement. Thanks for reminding.

  60. Un na naai

    Dissenter

    Haha. Not quite. I’m delighted they lost. Hate to break it to you but despite my joy at spur’s destruction of city I’m actually a goooner and I have been since 1990.

    Try something else.

  61. Leftsidesanch

    How on earth is finishing 11points behind the Champions, and 3rd in a two horse race nearly winning the title in 2016?

  62. Marc

    What TR7 and a few others on here can’t seem to comprehend is those of us who whilst thinking he’s a good a manger think putting him in the top 3 or whatever is a joke before he’s won anything is that if maybe he’d picked up a League Cup or FA Cup his players might believe that they are winners and go on to achieve more. They’re the boxer who’s great for 11 rounds and then gets the ever loving shit beaten out of him in the 12th ending in a knock out.

  63. Un na naai

    Rambo

    It was his second season in charge of a team who traditionally finished below the top 5
    He surpassed city, Liverpool, United and Chelsea that season. No mean feat considering the money those teams spend in comparison. But yes, he nearly won the title in his second season. He’s got a hell of a lot closer on a hell of a lot less than emery to a league title in a competitive league.

  64. Marko

    Don let the adults talk literally everything you said there is bollox. First off it’s not an Emery Poch debate it’s a debate as to why Poch is one of the best managers in world football. Secondly he’s not actually ever come close to winning the league. Thirdly there’s no such thing as top level British talent. And finally this shoestring budget nonsense has to stop you make it sound like he’s barely spent anything he’s spent 292 million since taking over. People like to think that because they haven’t signed up any players the last couple windows that he’s been living in poverty for years and it’s not true. Going 600 million over on a stadium will do that to a club

  65. Dissenter

    Un na
    No one is contesting that notion that Poch is anything but a very good manager who has done well like you said
    The disagreement is that he is one of the top-3 managers in the world.

  66. Freddie Ljungberg

    We are within a cunts hair of CL football both in the league and EL, how we get there isn’t really important imo. Sure we added 1 CB and a goalie and they have improved us slightly, but that has been diminished by the fact our other strting CB has been injured for more than half the season and our only real RB as well. Kos and Monreal have also deteriorated since last season. If you expected any improvements this season that’s a misjudgment of our squad strength.

  67. Rambo Ramsey

    After reading up on what his admirers say, Potlesstino will soon be adding ‘Nearly won the CL in 2019’ to fill the gaps in his empty CV.

  68. Marc

    “In that time he’s nearly won the league in 2016”

    And that’s why the Poch isn’t in the top 3 in the world. He didn’t come second to Fergie’s ManU, Wenger’s Invincible’s, Pep’s City, Chelsea’s bankrolled team or a revived Liverpool.

    He finished 3rd with Leicester winning the title.

    Absolutely the most stupid comment someone could make trying to defend a manager.

  69. TR7

    If Poch were.managing Juventus, would he not win Seria A season in season out ?

    If Valverde and Enrique can win La Liga with Barca, why can’t Poch ?

    That’s why to reduce judging a manager to trophies count is faulty.

  70. Marko

    But yes, he nearly won the title in his second season. He’s got a hell of a lot closer on a hell of a lot less than emery to a league title in a competitive league

    This is why people think you’re stupid he has not once come close to winning the league Leicester won the thing at a canter in the end Spurs didn’t sustain it and finished 3rd. Why can’t you understand that.

  71. Marc

    Freddie

    It’s funny how Kane being injured after a gruelling world cup summer is an excuse but Torreira going to the qtr finals is no excuse for being knackered after changing club and countries as well.

  72. Marko

    That’s something completely different TR7. If he goes to Juve or Barcelona and wins titles then fair enough you can talk about him being one of the best managers in the world because he’d have something to show for it and it’d be pretty obvious at that point. Right now is he top 3 managers in world football? Absolutely not.

  73. TR7

    Think of it this way – how much will the likes of Pep, Klopp, Allegri, Zidane, Ancellootti, Conte achieve if they manage the Spurs team which Poch inherited from Harry

  74. Freddie Ljungberg

    Marc

    It would be funny if it wasn’t for the fact some of our fans hate our new manager more than they do spurs and apply ridiculous double standards constantly in their favour. Baffling really.

  75. Marc

    TR7

    How did the managers at Juve or Barca get the job? Why hasn’t the Poch been offered a role at a “big” club he wouldn’t accept Barca and they wouldn’t offer but there are other clubs. Madrid and ManU have just both made appointments and are expected to compete, why’s he still at a mickey mouse club who have a billion pound debt?

  76. Radio Raheem

    Gambon,

    Behave. Of course we have improved. You can’t even hide the excitement of trying to figure out the different permutations of how our season ends. Did you ever think we’ll be at threatening the top four this season?

    Stemming the free fall and maybe finishing fifth would have been a decent season.

    Our record, and more importantly performances, against top 6 sides has definitely improved. This is undeniable.

  77. Freddie Ljungberg

    “Think of it this way – how much will the likes of Pep, Klopp, Allegri, Zidane, Ancellootti, Conte achieve if they manage the Arsenal team which Emery inherited from Wenger”

    Fixed it for you.

    You’re welcome

  78. Un na naai

    Mongo

    You think I’m stupid. But you’re Irish. You’re only relevant in a pub. So sit down and shut up before you get your bottom spanked again.

    There is no such thing as top level british talent no? That statement alone deserves a minutes silence for whatever semblance of credibility your backwards mutton headed mentality was clinging to. RIP MONGO

  79. Marc

    “Think of it this way – how much will the likes of Pep, Klopp, Allegri, Zidane, Ancellootti, Conte achieve if they manage the Spurs team which Poch inherited from Harry”

    They wouldn’t go there, they are big managers who manage big clubs. Until the Poch moves on and wins something he’s done nothing on real note.

  80. Chris

    Leicester were never in any huge danger of losing the league in 2016 once April set in. It was only a matter of when they clinched it.

    We were out of it more or less after we lost at Old Trafford. Spurs then managed to gift us 2nd place with an end of season collapse. Meanwhile Leicester were already nursing the hangover from winning it.

    Anyone saying Poch (or Wenger) made a serious tilt for the title that year is wide of the mark.

  81. Marko

    TR7 respectfully bringing up hypotheticals like what if Pep took over at Spurs etc is pointless. You have yet to make a good case for why Poch is in the top 3 managers in world football. Who else is in your top 3?

  82. Marc

    Un

    What has Marko being Irish got to do with anything?

    It’s a cheap barb that destroys any point you have before you’ve made it.

  83. Bamford10

    gambon

    14th-place Bournemouth beats a Spurs XI featuring Eriksen, Son, Alderweireld, Trippier, Moura, Lloris, Rose and Delle Alli and you give Chelsea less than a 50% chance of beating Leicester City.

    Care to revise your assessment of the quality of PL teams 7-13, teams like Leicester City, Palace, and Everton?

    Maybe these were trickier and more difficult fixtures than you were previously willing to admit?

    Given that Emery has to work with inadequate players like Xhaka, Maitland-Niles, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Mkhitaryan, Ozil and Iwobi, perhaps you will admit you have been a little unfair in your assessment of him?

    And btw, if he has us higher in the table or closer in points to the top teams, isn’t that “improvement”? I don’t see how one could argue otherwise.

  84. Dissenter

    Marko
    “Who else is in your top 3?’

    I believe he stated it was “Klopp, Pep and pOCH”
    All three in the premier league. I stand corrected of course.

  85. Marc

    Dissenter

    “Spuds were in the running for the league in 2016 until they lost at home to Spuds”

    And they almost fucked that up!

  86. Dissenter

    Un na
    You really have an 18th century view of the Irish which is rather dim.
    Why would anyone hate on the Irish?
    Small country of 4 million always pulling far above her weight.

  87. Radio Raheem

    Some retards on here also seem to think it a given that Laca and Auba improve their goal return as they’ve been here longer, nothing to do with the manager. How has this logic applied to Sanchez, Morata, Sturridge, Jansen, Tosun…

  88. Joe

    Chris

    We were out of the league challenge that year in feb. right after we beat Leicester and went on to drop points in our next few matches.

    We weren’t even close no matter how much akbs like to say we were

  89. Dissenter

    “Spuds were in the running for the league in 2016 until they lost at home to Spuds”

    That’s not what I meant to write but I will take the compliments

    Similar to Samesong’s “this is the blog of lube”

  90. Marc

    Joe

    After today he’d get crucified – whilst it might not be in our own hands the chance to finish above the Spud’s means he has to go for it.

    With that comment in mind I do expect Kos not to start. We’ll need him for Burnley as much as anything else.

  91. Victorious

    Again not sure even a single spuds fan would rate Bottletino as a top 3 manager in whatever Metric

    Emery is on course to win a EL and probably finish in top4 if he manages to get his tactics and player selection spot on in our remaining games

    Not like he’s even trotting out a proper case to back his assertion as if spuds is forbidden to win a cup or 2

    I mean TR7 might literally be the only person on earth who rates Bochettino that highly,Guy is propably a spud in disguise

  92. Rambo Ramsey

    I can’t be the only one who is laughing at TR7s ‘Ifs, buts and coconuts’

    This must be what its like justifying bets placed on a donkey at the races

  93. Dissenter

    Kos has a tendency of scoring with his hands at Burnely so we have to save him for Thursday and Sunday.

  94. Marko

    Listen Poch is a very good manager he’s done an excellent job at Spurs but until at the very least he wins something he should not be considered one of the very best managers in the world

  95. Bamford10

    Dissenter

    I’d just like to point out that I don’t “doubt” Kane’s quality in some general sense, nor do I “not rate” him in some general sense. He is an excellent striker. No question. However, I don’t think he’s “world class,” i.e., first-XI-in-the-world quality, Barca-starting-XI-quality, City-starting-XI quality, because there are better and more athletic strikers I would put ahead of him. He’s a great finisher and a very technically-sound player, but he lacks pace, explosiveness, athleticism and the ability to beat defenders off the dribble consistently, so he is not top of the top for me. That’s my view. Why this is so outrageous to many is beyond me.

  96. Bamford10

    Joe

    I actually went back and looked at that the other day in order to rebut Valentin’s claim that we contended for the title in 15-16. We were 11 points back of Leicester and out of the race in mid-March, though, not mid-February. Point remains the same: to contend, you need to be in contention in April or May, not out of contention in March.

  97. Marc

    Bamford

    I’m in your camp on Kane. He’s a very good goal scorer but I think if he was ref’d properly ie no English bias he would struggle to do as well.

    In case anyone is wondering he’s a diving cunt.

  98. Marko

    I would rate even Valverde as better than Poch. Trophies won at Olympiakos done a great job at Bilbao and even won a cup with them and made the step up

  99. TR7

    Marko

    I am not using hypothetical theories. You know it well most good managers will win Seria A with Juventus and La Liga with Messi’s Barca. You say until Poch actually wins league trophies, it is premature to put him in top class managers’ categories but by making this argument you are putting the likes of Enrique ahead of Poch for he has already won a treble with Barca.

    Marc

    You have on numerous occasions predicted Poch will leave Spurs for a bigger club and now here you are dissing him for not getting a chance to manage a top club.

    P.S : I have Pep, Klopp, Conte, Poch and Simeone as the best 5 managers in the world although Simeone is not my ‘type’.

  100. RodneyKing

    TR7
    May 4, 2019 15:57:46

    “Think of it this way – how much will the likes of Pep, Klopp, Allegri, Zidane, Ancellootti, Conte achieve if they manage the Spurs team which Poch inherited from Harry”

    Food for thought. Replace “Spurs”, “Poch” and “Harry” with “Arsenal”, “Emery” and “Wenger”.

  101. Marc

    TR7

    Because I thought one of them would come in for him. Clearly the highly paid professionals see a problem with him.

    I saying that I wouldn’t be surprised to see him joining ManU around Christmas. ManU are running out of other managers to appoint.

  102. Bamford10

    Dissenter

    No, he’s not. Sorry. And btw, you had Alli as “world class” and worth £90m or so eighteen months ago, no? I rejected that assessment. Who seems more correct on this point now?

    Happy Saturday to you all the same. 🙂

  103. Dissenter

    Marc
    I think you’re just a proper gooner who’s blinded to anything good about Spuds.
    For you nothing,… and I mean NOTHING good can come out Spuds.

  104. Marc

    Dissenter

    I’m biased on two accounts. One he’s a Spud, two he’s a fucking mong.

    I struggle to get past these points.

  105. Bamford10

    Marc

    I like your work, mate. I think we used to not get along, right? This place is funny. Cheers.

  106. Joe

    Marc

    I agree. Just hope emery isn’t solely focussed on Europa. That being said. We should be able to dispose of Brighton by half time then he can rest players.

  107. BacaryisGod

    I’m still trying to figure out why so many people are saying we’ve improved under Emery this season without addressing the obvious fact that we upgraded our squad over the summer and we also had a full season of a settled Aubameyang compared to last year.

    I’m not advocating that Arsene should have stayed but I don’t think Emery has been a success. If we make Top 4, it will only because others have choked too. Losing three vital games in a row against mid-table sides was unforgivable. If we win the Europa League, it’s because our squad should be capable of at least a semi-final place every year because the competition is so weak.

  108. salparadisenyc

    Knife edge for Poch and Spurs.

    Could be in the elitist final the game has to offer or crash out of everything with Spursnight footie on offer next season.

    To be in position they are without adding to squad is fantastic.

    But the wheels are coming off and Levys surely wishing they added numbers. Walking dead today with Ajax away to come.

  109. Rambo Ramsey

    “Marc and Bamford all alone to take the army of Wights”

    Its okay, they’ll win.

    All they need is a super ninja assassin magically transporting into mid air and be given the time to poke a knife into a legendary monster King who is previously shown to be capable of bringing down Dragons with a simple javelin throw.

  110. Joe

    Bamford10May 4, 2019 16:19:35
    MarcI like your work, mate. I think we used to not get along, right? This place is funny. Cheers.

    Jesus , are you a 12 year old girl?

  111. Marc

    Dissenter

    “I think you’re just a proper gooner who’s blinded to anything good about Spuds.”

    Completely wrong. I think St Totteringham day is brilliant – can’t wait to have it back!

  112. Redtruth

    Un na naai
    “In that time he’s nearly won the league in 2016, reached the champions league semi final.

    Arsenal came second and were nowhere near close to winning the league…lol

  113. Marko

    Why this is so outrageous to many is beyond me.

    Guy has 159 goals the last 5 seasons a golden boot award from a recent world cup and is being linked with big money moves to some of the biggest clubs in the world every summer. If it wasn’t for him being a bit of a pussy and leaving the nest he’d be playing for a bigger club. That and the extortionate amount it’d cost to get him. So yeah beyond you

  114. Victorious

    Pochetino is a bottler and loser

    Never won a rubber spoon in his career

    I mean he managed to finish 3rd in a 2 horse race for the title

    Would never leave spuds because that is his safe blanket of failure

    he’s a coward and don’t fancy the enormous pressure a bigger club will pose for him

    The following managers in EPL are better and ahead of him in abilities:

    Klopp
    Pep
    Nuno
    Emery

    Probably a toss of coin between him and Sarri on who comes 5th

  115. Dissenter

    I’ve been told to excuse Sessegnon’s lack of quality to his tender age but he looks lost at seas, at this level.

  116. Marc

    Bamford

    I try to keep a level view of what I believe and what I know. That means I’ll agree with some on here on one thing and disagree on another.

    There are two things that piss me off beyond belief – 1) agenda’s (other than wanting Arsenal to win) 2) criticising how other fans support the club.

    I think we had a row because in a fit of rage you suggested fans should throw stuff at Wenger. I pointed out this would lead to a life time ban and a prison cell.

  117. Danialtos

    It doesn’t matter if we don’t win our games but I’m gonna be optimistic about my team (beats the daily Spuds love in from the usual suspects. I know a lot of Spuds and none of them spoke this glowingly about us even in our glory days.)

    This is the best comment I have seen today.Spot on.It is becoming embarassing .A quick glance at Legrove(even after a win) and you would think that this is a spuds site.Every fucking day it’s about Pochettino being world class or more quality than our manager am so sick of it.

  118. Marko

    by making this argument you are putting the likes of Enrique ahead of Poch for he has already won a treble with Barca.

    I’m not putting anything out there whatsoever I’m not the one making a case for someone being one of the best managers in the world on the back of poise and other such nonsense. Again not once have you made a good case for why someone who’s been a manager for 10 years with nothing to show for it is one of the best managers in the world all the while there’s actually manager’s out there winning things who aren’t as good.

  119. Marko

    I’ve been told to excuse Sessegnon’s lack of quality to his tender age but he looks lost at seas, at this level.

    Just had to check and yes Ryan Sessegnon is in fact just 18 years old. Checked again and yes it is his first season in the top flight his 3rd senior season 115 games since coming onto the scene. As excuses go that’s a pretty good one